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davi78239
08-14-2020, 01:07 PM
Hopefully not

TXstbobcat
08-14-2020, 01:15 PM
Possibly if they get a top 4 pick and go with Deni Advija.

Notorious H.O.P.
08-14-2020, 01:39 PM
Unless they are really happy with what they have now, I don't think so. Gone are the days when the team was so set at every position that they practically needed to park their first round picks either for cap or roster spot purposes. We need guys that can contribute in the next year or two.

spurspl
08-14-2020, 02:53 PM
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R. DeMurre
08-14-2020, 03:12 PM
Seven of the Spurs last eight draft picks have been domestic... the idea of a euro bias is just an old story that isn't true.
Using Keldon Johnson as an example of anything doesn't really make sense... 28 teams passed on him before the Spurs picked him.

pad300
08-14-2020, 04:04 PM
Could, and if they aren't reaching, it wouldn't be a bad idea. That means one of Killian Hayes, Pokusevski or Advija. That ain't a bad choice...

jbspurs
08-14-2020, 11:54 PM
Hopefully not

If the Euro plays like Manu, Parker, Dirk, Doncic,.... Why not?

Play Boban
08-15-2020, 08:58 AM
They bette prick a Euro tbh

GAustex
08-15-2020, 08:59 AM
poop is sure to screw it up

KobesAchilles
08-15-2020, 09:17 AM
Aren’t there 2 amazing point European point guards available this draft? One from France and the other from Germany I think. I wouldn’t mind drafting one of them. Solves some issues like we can move Dejounte to shooting guard.

Dejounte
08-15-2020, 09:19 AM
Aren’t there 2 amazing point European point guards available this draft? One from France and the other from Germany I think. I wouldn’t mind drafting one of them. Solves some issues like we can move Dejounte to shooting guard.

Drafting a guard in this draft takes away minutes from Keldon. Unless you want to keep playing small ball with Lonnie playing SF or Keldon playing PF. It just doesn't make sense to draft a guard when our major issues are length and size. Dejounte is a problem, but not the biggest problem we have (even though his sorry ass lost is a critical game)

exstatic
08-15-2020, 09:36 AM
I think if they move into the top 4, they won’t stash, but if they’re sitting at 11, and Pokuševski is on the board, and amenable to staying another year in Europe, they’d pull the trigger. This is a team that missed the playoffs this season, and has a payroll of $120M next season, with a cap of $109M. That’s also only 12 players, and includes Lyles, Metu and Zeller On partial guarantees. It doesn’t include Poeltl or Eubanks, if they want to sign him to an NBA deal, now that his two way is expiring.

NameLess Scrub
08-15-2020, 10:10 AM
They will look for the next Luka and will end up with a Darko.

KobesAchilles
08-15-2020, 10:25 AM
Drafting a guard in this draft takes away minutes from Keldon. Unless you want to keep playing small ball with Lonnie playing SF or Keldon playing PF. It just doesn't make sense to draft a guard when our major issues are length and size. Dejounte is a problem, but not the biggest problem we have (even though his sorry ass lost is a critical game)
Well I was thinking that Keldon could play SF. Tbh I don’t even know what the roster will be like next year but having Derrick, DDR, Keldon start and Lonnie and Murray off the bench would be my ideal pairings. If DDR leaves then drafting a PG and having him paired with Lonnie off the bench works too while Murray becomes our starting SG. I agree that it’s not the biggest need, I just wouldn’t be too upset if they went that route.

dbestpro
08-15-2020, 10:43 AM
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Watched video of this dude. It's crazy watching a 7 ft player bring the ball up the court or go coast to coast. Got to say this guy is the sleeper of the draft.

R. DeMurre
08-15-2020, 11:46 AM
I think if they move into the top 4, they won’t stash, but if they’re sitting at 11, and Pokuševski is on the board, and amenable to staying another year in Europe, they’d pull the trigger. This is a team that missed the playoffs this season, and has a payroll of $120M next season, with a cap of $109M. That’s also only 12 players, and includes Lyles, Metu and Zeller On partial guarantees. It doesn’t include Poeltl or Eubanks, if they want to sign him to an NBA deal, now that his two way is expiring.


Pokusevski is really interesting, and he does check all of the boxes outside of FG%... his #s on rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals are impressive. I wonder if he has the potential to be a SF in the NBA?

pad300
08-15-2020, 12:07 PM
Pokusevski is really interesting, and he does check all of the boxes outside of FG%... his #s on rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals are impressive. I wonder if he has the potential to be a SF in the NBA?

If he's there, I think we would have to consider him very deeply. He has a path to be a franchise level player; there are few of those in this draft (Wiseman, Hayes (maybe), Edwards, Avidja (maybe??)). I don't he's an SF, but his ceiling is Dirk...

pad300
08-15-2020, 12:23 PM
https://stats-prod.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/65/2020/06/aleksej-pokusevski-shot-chart-1024x799.jpg

Also, I had to go find this, but I'm not scared of his FG% ...

R. DeMurre
08-15-2020, 12:27 PM
If he's there, I think we would have to consider him very deeply. He has a path to be a franchise level player; there are few of those in this draft (Wiseman, Hayes (maybe), Edwards, Avidja (maybe??)). I don't he's an SF, but his ceiling is Dirk...

I haven't seen any mocks that have him in the #11 range... most are late teens, and some even have him as a second rounder. I see him as more of a Giannis Lite because of the shooting, but, yeah, I think he does have the best "unicorn" potential of this draft. Has there been any official link noted between him and the Spurs that you know of?

R. DeMurre
08-15-2020, 12:33 PM
https://stats-prod.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/65/2020/06/aleksej-pokusevski-shot-chart-1024x799.jpg

Also, I had to go find this, but I'm not scared of his FG% ...

That's from here: https://stats.nba.com/articles/2020-nba-draft-profile-aleksej-pokusevski/

I think his form looks good and he could easily become a good shooter, but that chart is a little deceiving, as his overall 3pt% was 32%.

BackHome
08-15-2020, 12:57 PM
I believe he is also the youngest player actually if his birthday was 6 days latter he would not have been eligible for this years draft. He definitely can play my only concern is his shoulders are real narrow so him adding a lot more muscle is just not going to happen. But the kid has excellent handles for a 7 footer and can shoot from inside and outside and plays defense as he has good numbers in rebounding and block shoots.

talkspurs
08-15-2020, 01:21 PM
I would consider him another Luka. In they they would both be big fliers. if either of them hits it is good for the Spurs. If both are hits then that is even better. I still would rather us draft Bey and if we could get someone to take gay in a trade for a late pick take him there.

Obi Juan Kenobi
08-15-2020, 04:25 PM
Unless its Avdija then no...

Truth4sale$
08-15-2020, 05:34 PM
I see the Spurs taking the best player available with the highest upside, regardless of position or Euro vs American. It will be competitive for playing time in 2021.

exstatic
08-15-2020, 05:57 PM
I haven't seen any mocks that have him in the #11 range... most are late teens, and some even have him as a second rounder. I see him as more of a Giannis Lite because of the shooting, but, yeah, I think he does have the best "unicorn" potential of this draft. Has there been any official link noted between him and the Spurs that you know of?

Tankathon has him#19 in their mock, but #10 on their big board. There are a lot of dumb teams. Coach Cal said, in the video in the Keldon thread, that there were 5 teams that passed on Keldon JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WORK OUT FOR THEM. When you’re a probable late lottery pick, you don’t work out for 30 teams. Spurs sometimes don’t work out guys, so they don’t tip their hand, and frequently draft guys they don’t work out. Kawhi was one, and I’m quite sure Keldon was another one.

BackHome
08-15-2020, 08:18 PM
One thing for sure is that SF and athletic bigs always move up when draft occurs it’s not uncommon to see these guys who have been mocked as second round picks move up to late or even mid first round.

cd021
08-16-2020, 09:42 AM
Its not a bad idea, tbh. There are some interesting international players . Avidja is obviously the best of bunch, and they'd be crazy not to take him if he somehow falls to 11 or they have a top 5 pick. I do like Hayes a lot too.

If they acquire a late first then Maledon or Pokusevski are fine flyers tbh.

BackHome
08-16-2020, 09:55 AM
Yeah I am really hoping we can somehow get a 24 to 30 pick in the first with a trade. They going to be a lot of really good PF and C going in that area. Ie Poki, Urto, Paul, Tillman etc.

exstatic
08-16-2020, 11:16 AM
Yeah I am really hoping we can somehow get a 24 to 30 pick in the first with a trade. They going to be a lot of really good PF and C going in that area. Ie Poki, Urto, Paul, Tillman etc.

I doubt they’ll be pick shopping. They’re a non playoff team with a payroll $11M over the cap, and only 12 players under contract, and that includes partial deals for Metu, Lyles, and Zeller. It does not include a deal for Poeltl, or Eubanks, who’s two way deal is expiring.

pad300
08-16-2020, 12:32 PM
I doubt they’ll be pick shopping. They’re a non playoff team with a payroll $11M over the cap, and only 12 players under contract, and that includes partial deals for Metu, Lyles, and Zeller. It does not include a deal for Poeltl, or Eubanks, who’s two way deal is expiring.

I don't think finances would stop a trade down with Boston or some such - say 14 (grizz pick) and 30 for 11. That adds less than $1 Million to the 11th pick salary and fills 2 spots on the roster.

BillMc
08-16-2020, 04:02 PM
Take the best non-guard available wherever he's from.

TD 21
08-16-2020, 04:15 PM
Take the best non-guard available wherever he's from.

This team isn't set anywhere. If the projected clear best prospect available is a guard, select them and sort it out later.

jjktkk
08-16-2020, 05:16 PM
With the Covid Hysteria and No NCAA tournament, the Spurs will rely on their alleged strength, European Scouting.

Leopard don't change its spots.

Recent Example of this.

Keldon is their "Highest rated player at his position " (SF) he is a blue chipper at a basketball factory in America, but still they pick Luka Euro at 19. This is despite the fact that Demar DeRozan is playing out of position at SF and you just traded your Mute Cancer SF Robot for him and you have ANOTHER Euro player who is playing well that is basically Luka's template, Davas Bertans.

So, YEAH, they are almost certainly picking a Euro Player.

Cross your fingers..... You're out of touch.
Seven of the Spurs last eight draft picks have been domestic... the idea of a euro bias is just an old story that isn't true.
Using Keldon Johnson as an example of anything doesn't really make sense... 28 teams passed on him before the Spurs picked him.

cd021
08-16-2020, 05:59 PM
I doubt they’ll be pick shopping. They’re a non playoff team with a payroll $11M over the cap, and only 12 players under contract, and that includes partial deals for Metu, Lyles, and Zeller. It does not include a deal for Poeltl, or Eubanks, who’s two way deal is expiring.

Aldridge to Miami for Olynyk and the 20th pick would solve the financial issues and add an additional pick tbh

Ocotillo
08-17-2020, 04:16 PM
I just don't like Olynyk. I understand what you are suggesting.

Kurgan
08-18-2020, 12:05 AM
This team isn't set anywhere. If the projected clear best prospect available is a guard, select them and sort it out later.

Yup. There are no TD/Manu/Parker tier players on the current roster where you can say with confidence that the position is secure for years to come.

DAF86
08-18-2020, 01:17 AM
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Hadn't heard of that guy. He looks promising.

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BatManu20
08-18-2020, 03:32 AM
Why do so many people on here keep saying “If the Spurs move into the top-4” like we have a good chance or something. The chances are slim to none of that happening. We’re almost certainly going to be picking at #11.

ragas
08-18-2020, 03:49 AM
Hadn't heard of that guy. He looks promising.

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Yes, his skillset is promising. But 200 lbs at 7'0?

99 Problems
08-18-2020, 04:29 AM
If there’s a Luka in there somewhere I’m all for it.

BatManu20
08-18-2020, 05:05 AM
Yes, his skillset is promising. But 200 lbs at 7'0?

He’d obviously have to put on a ton of weight over his first 3-4 years, but it’s doable. Giannis came into the league at 19 years old at 6’9 196 lbs and now he’s 7’0 240 lbs.

With that said, this guy ain’t Giannis and taking him at 11 would be a massive reach imo. I know he’s only 18 but his competition in Europe was weak he didn’t even put up big numbers against them. He’s a project for sure.

spurspl
08-18-2020, 06:37 AM
Hadn't heard of that guy. He looks promising.

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i watched vids of him and yeah his skills set is really impressive but his body structure, muscle etc not. he must put some weight, improve his defense and grow up to eliminate teenage fantasy mistakes. Thats 2yrs of work and probably be send to gleague. for now hes not ready for an nba. he has no chances with almost every center and power forwards offensively and defensively. u can compare him to giannis but thats a different type of body.

exstatic
08-18-2020, 07:00 AM
I just don't like Olynyk. I understand what you are suggesting.

Me neither. He’s a dinosaur in today’s NBA

exstatic
08-18-2020, 07:02 AM
Why do so many people on here keep saying “If the Spurs move into the top-4” like we have a good chance or something. The chances are slim to none of that happening. We’re almost certainly going to be picking at #11.

3 teams did it last year. That was the first lottery where they drew for 4 teams instead of 3, and with the newer flattened odds. The Spurs chances are just about 10% to move into one of those 4 draft spots.

BackHome
08-18-2020, 03:35 PM
For what it’s worth NBA Draft Room has us drafting Alex.. at 11.

R. DeMurre
08-18-2020, 06:14 PM
I'm pretty underwhelmed by this draft, I have to admit. Pokusevski as a project is more interesting then most of the bigs generally listed before him. But I do generally trust the ability of the Spurs to scout talent, so it'll be more interesting than usual to see who they pick in this strangest of NBA seasons.

BackHome
08-18-2020, 08:35 PM
Yeah feel the same if we jump in the top four I will jump for joy but if we drafting at 11 I will trust who ever they pick. We need to improve at almost every position so hopefully they take the best player but to be honest not much separates 11 to 20 in this years draft.