View Full Version : So without the Spurs in the playoffs....Who is your 2nd team?
timvp
09-08-2020, 10:07 PM
Can't believe I gotta root for the Lakers :pctoss
baseline bum is right. They're the only team with a prayer to beat the Clippers so I can't root against them.
gambit1990
09-09-2020, 12:00 AM
i saw someone here post that you should root for the rockets because they're the only chance of stopping kawhi :lol
harden beating kawhi :lol
if you want any chance of stopping kawhi, you root for the lakers tbh.
DAF86
09-09-2020, 12:06 AM
Can't believe I gotta root for the Lakers :pctoss
baseline bum is right. They're the only team with a prayer to beat the Clippers so I can't root against them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.silverscreenandroll.com/platform/amp/2018/7/3/17533090/lakers-trade-rumors-spurs-brandon-ingram-josh-hart-kyle-kuzma-kawhi-leonard
Yes, you read that right: the Spurs are asking for a crazy amount to deal Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers
The Lakers have done an expert job of clearing cap space for next summer, and they’ve gotten to the point where they can sign Leonard outright, allowing them to counter this reported Spurs offer with an offer of their own: You can give us Leonard for something reasonable, or you can lose him for nothing when we sign him next offseason.
Fuck the Lakers and their loud, cocky fanbase, tbh.
daslicer
09-09-2020, 12:07 AM
i saw someone here post that you should root for the rockets because they're the only chance of stopping kawhi :lol
harden beating kawhi :lol
if you want any chance of stopping kawhi, you root for the lakers tbh.
Agreed granted I won't root for either in this matchup. Lakers historically have always gotten special treatment from the refs so you have to factor that in this hypothetical matchup.
lefty20
09-09-2020, 12:13 AM
Hate that it's come to this... Go Lakers :vomit:
daslicer
09-09-2020, 12:19 AM
Hate that it's come to this... Go Lakers :vomit:
Not rooting for either. In this series I will enjoy seeing either side lose. If the Lakers lose I get to see Laker fans in tears and Lebron having the door shut him from ever winning another title. If the Lakers win #2 loses which will be great to see along with seeing his fanboys in tears.
J_Paco
09-09-2020, 12:59 AM
With Milwaukee bowing out too soon, WTF coach Bud (?), I'm now rooting for the Celtics. I'd root for the Nuggets but they have a snowball's chance in hell of beating both L.A. teams.
ace3g
09-09-2020, 07:30 PM
2:05 - 3rd
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
TOR
21
27
31
79
BOS
25
27
19
71
ace3g
09-09-2020, 08:38 PM
Totally forgot about the game and didn't expect to see this when I checked back in.
57.5 - 2OT
ESPN
1
2
3
4
OT
T
TOR
21
27
33
17
17
115
BOS
25
27
25
21
19
117
Both teams exchanging big 3s
ace3g
09-09-2020, 08:40 PM
38.8 - 2OT
ESPN
1
2
3
4
OT
T
TOR
21
27
33
17
23
121
BOS
25
27
25
21
19
117
ace3g
09-09-2020, 08:43 PM
5.0 - 2OT
ESPN
1
2
3
4
OT
T
TOR
21
27
33
17
25
123
BOS
25
27
25
21
24
122
ace3g
09-09-2020, 08:48 PM
Final/2OT
ESPN
1
2
3
4
OT
T
TOR
21
27
33
17
27
125
BOS
25
27
25
21
24
122
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/tor.png&h=100&w=100 Raptors
Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS
P. Siakam (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3149673/pascal-siakam) PF
54
5-19
0-5
2-4
1
7
8
6
2
0
3
4
+10
12
O. Anunoby (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3934719/og-anunoby) SF
50
5-11
2-3
1-4
5
8
13
1
1
0
4
4
+0
13
M. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3206/marc-gasol) C
16
3-7
2-4
0-0
0
2
2
1
1
1
1
5
+5
8
K. Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry) PG
53
12-20
6-10
3-4
0
8
8
6
2
1
1
5
+1
33
F. VanVleet (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991230/fred-vanvleet) SG
51
7-22
3-13
4-4
0
9
9
7
2
2
2
3
+1
21
Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS
C. Boucher (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3948153/chris-boucher) PF
--
-----
-----
-----
--
--
--
--
--
--
--
--
--
--
P. Watson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3058030/paul-watson) SF
Has not entered game
R. Hollis-Jefferson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3064291/rondae-hollis-jefferson) SF
Has not entered game
S. Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134881/stanley-johnson) SF
Has not entered game
S. Ibaka (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3439/serge-ibaka) C
21
5-9
3-5
0-0
1
2
3
0
0
3
0
2
-9
13
N. Powell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2595516/norman-powell) SG
38
6-11
3-6
8-9
1
1
2
1
2
1
1
2
-7
23
M. Thomas (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3059311/matt-thomas) SG
6
1-2
0-1
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
+8
2
T. Davis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3919454/terence-davis) SG
Has not entered game
TEAM
44-101
19-47
18-25
8
38
46
22
10
8
12
26
125
43.6%
40.4%
70.8%
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/bos.png&h=100&w=100 Celtics
Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS
J. Tatum (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum) PF
51
9-21
4-8
7-10
3
11
14
9
2
2
6
3
-3
29
D. Theis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2451037/daniel-theis) C
47
9-11
0-1
0-0
4
3
7
2
0
1
0
5
-5
18
K. Walker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6479/kemba-walker) PG
52
2-11
1-6
0-0
0
4
4
7
0
0
3
4
-5
5
M. Smart (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2990992/marcus-smart) PG
50
7-15
6-12
3-3
1
10
11
10
1
0
2
4
+3
23
J. Brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown) SG
51
11-30
4-13
5-5
4
12
16
2
2
0
3
5
+6
31
Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS
S. Ojeleye (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3056602/semi-ojeleye) PF
5
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+0
0
G. Williams (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066218/grant-williams) PF
7
2-2
2-2
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-5
6
E. Kanter (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6447/enes-kanter) C
Has not entered game
R. Williams III (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066211/robert-williams-iii) C
8
2-2
0-0
0-0
2
1
3
0
0
0
0
0
+0
4
B. Wanamaker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6507/brad-wanamaker) PG
19
2-7
2-4
0-0
0
2
2
2
0
1
1
3
+2
6
C. Edwards (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066407/carsen-edwards) PG
Has not entered game
T. Waters (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278080/tremont-waters) PG
Has not entered game
R. Langford (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4397008/romeo-langford) SG
Has not entered game
TEAM
44-100
19-47
15-18
14
44
58
32
5
4
15
25
122
44.4%
41.3%
83.3%
spurspl
09-09-2020, 08:58 PM
WHATA GAME
timvp
09-09-2020, 09:05 PM
I like how we Spurs fans fret about about the size of the wings while the Raptors just won by going with a lineup of Lowry, VanVleet and Powell that has an average height of 6-feet-nothing -- and fortified by OG at PF and Siakam at C :lol
ace3g
09-09-2020, 09:21 PM
I like how we Spurs fans fret about about the size of the wings while the Raptors just won by going with a lineup of Lowry, VanVleet and Powell that has an average height of 6-feet-nothing -- and fortified by OG at PF and Siakam at C :lol
Spurs don't have those prototypical tall SF or SF/PF (playable this year) that can play PF and C in that type of small ball lineup.
RD2191
09-09-2020, 09:23 PM
:claw
timvp
09-09-2020, 09:24 PM
Spurs don't have those prototypical tall SF or SF/PF (playable this year) that can play PF and C in that type of small ball lineup.
I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment but a lineup of White, Murray, Walker, Johnson and Lyles, for example, isn't really that small if you're judging it by the 2020 NBA Playoffs.
GAustex
09-09-2020, 09:31 PM
As I reel in the years it still surprises me how things “change”. Pro ball with only one guy over 6’6”. Who woulda ever thunk
ace3g
09-09-2020, 09:36 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment but a lineup of White, Murray, Walker, Johnson and Lyles, for example, isn't really that small if you're judging it by the 2020 NBA Playoffs.
I agree on the Lyles aspect and was one of the more vocal disappointed on the forum when it was announced he was going to miss the bubble (especially with how he was playing before the postponement) because of PATFO's statement that the bubble would be about developing the young players.
I kept repeating:
With Lyles our restart rotation would have been:
Starters: Dejounte, White, DeRozan, Lyles, Poeltl
Bench: Quinn/Beli, Walker, Keldon, Gay, Eubanks
That rotation would have done well.
DAF86
09-09-2020, 10:42 PM
I like how we Spurs fans fret about about the size of the wings while the Raptors just won by going with a lineup of Lowry, VanVleet and Powell that has an average height of 6-feet-nothing -- and fortified by OG at PF and Siakam at C :lol
You are missing the point that the Raptors still have Anunoby and Siakam. Try going a full season with a perimeter of Lowry, VanVleet and Powell and see how good they'd do.
timvp
09-09-2020, 10:59 PM
You are missing the point that the Raptors still have Anunoby and Siakam.Don't think I'm missing that point since what you quoted mentioned them, tbh. They're good and modern-NBA-friendly, but they're still small for a PF and C duo -- which was the point of my comment.
Try going a full season with a perimeter of Lowry, VanVleet and Powell and see how good they'd do.They'd probably do really well, actually. If a team like the Celtics that could hypothetically match them with big, talented wings can't take advantage, which teams out there can? Maybe the Lakers and Clippers but that's about it.
DAF86
09-09-2020, 11:26 PM
They'd probably do really well, actually. If a team like the Celtics that could hypothetically match them with big, talented wings can't take advantage, which teams out there can? Maybe the Lakers and Clippers but that's about it.
You are getting to too many conclusions out of one game, imho. A Lowry, VV, Powell perimeter would be exposed over an entire season. It would also probably be exposed over an entire Celtics-Raptors series, tbh.
Ed Helicopter Jones
09-10-2020, 11:51 AM
I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment but a lineup of White, Murray, Walker, Johnson and Lyles, for example, isn't really that small if you're judging it by the 2020 NBA Playoffs.
I'm down with that lineup. For me, what gives me fits as a Spurs fan is any rotation that includes Bryn "Airpunch" Forbes, Patty "I Was Better Bald" Mills, and Marco "The Defensive Matador" Belinelli.
ace3g
09-11-2020, 09:55 PM
4:41 - 3rd
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
26
24
12
62
TOR
27
19
13
59
Dejounte
09-11-2020, 09:58 PM
Not gonna lie... Would be fun to watch a Raptors vs Clippers Finals... Raptors winning would be hilarious.
Or even Celtics in the Finals would be interesting. I like Tatum and that group. Tatum would catapult to superstardom if he wins a championship.
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:24 PM
6:00 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
26
24
22
13
85
TOR
27
19
25
7
78
Robz4000
09-11-2020, 10:25 PM
Not gonna lie... Would be fun to watch a Raptors vs Clippers Finals... Raptors winning would be hilarious.
Or even Celtics in the Finals would be interesting. I like Tatum and that group. Tatum would catapult to superstardom if he wins a championship.
He's already knocking on the door tbh, if not already inside. Dude has been balling out.
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:40 PM
1:01 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
26
24
22
17
89
TOR
27
19
25
16
87
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:43 PM
Lowry just fouled out.
Powell with a dumb decision to drive full speed and gets blocked at rim by Smart.
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:45 PM
Grant Williams misses both FTs with Cs up 2 and Tatum gets ORb draws foul.
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:47 PM
FVV bad decision wastes too much time and jacks up contested 3...
7.9 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
26
24
22
20
92
TOR
27
19
25
16
87
ace3g
09-11-2020, 10:49 PM
Final
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
26
24
22
20
92
TOR
27
19
25
16
87
phxspurfan
09-11-2020, 10:55 PM
Miami Heatles FTW TBH FWIW IMHO
Dejounte
09-11-2020, 11:02 PM
Would the Heat seriously compete in the Finals?
Rusty
09-11-2020, 11:37 PM
I love Marcus Smart and the Miami Heat team as a whole. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy this epic ECF
hombre
09-12-2020, 10:13 AM
I'm more excited for the Eastern Conference finals for the first time in a looooooong ass time.
I'm more excited for the Eastern Conference finals for the first time in a looooooong ass time.
Same.
The only silver lining to the WCF is one of the L.A. teams has to lose.
Dejounte
09-12-2020, 08:00 PM
This is the peak for the Rockets. I don't think they're going to recover from this next season. I'm not counting them as a lock for the playoffs next season.
As of now, my sure locks:
Lakers
Clippers
Warriors
Nuggets
Thunder are out once they trade Chris Paul.
Jazz aint nothing special.
Porzingis injury might hurt Dallas really bad.
Blazers might fight for that eight seed. Everything hinges on Lillard who I think is great in the playoffs but no way can he maintain it during the regular season.
TD 21
09-12-2020, 10:34 PM
This is the peak for the Rockets. I don't think they're going to recover from this next season. I'm not counting them as a lock for the playoffs next season.
As of now, my sure locks:
Lakers
Clippers
Warriors
Nuggets
Thunder are out once they trade Chris Paul.
Jazz aint nothing special.
Porzingis injury might hurt Dallas really bad.
Blazers might fight for that eight seed. Everything hinges on Lillard who I think is great in the playoffs but no way can he maintain it during the regular season.
I actually don't think that's far fetched. Old, thin, no youth to invigorate them, unlikely to care much about the regular season at this point.
The second Harden slips from perennial MVP candidate to just perennial All-Star, they're completely done.
spurspl
09-13-2020, 02:53 PM
denver tied, 3-3, god pls one more win
BWS-1994
09-13-2020, 03:05 PM
denver tied, 3-3, god pls one more win
1-3 comeback repeat for the Nuggets?
Drom John
09-15-2020, 10:44 AM
2nd team = the local Hawks, that didn't work.
3rd team = Bullets AKA Wizards, my first team going back to the Gus Johnson days, a least they made the bubble.
4th team = Bulls, back to my Chicago and Iowa days, not there either.
5th team = Hornets, back to my NC days, nope.
6th team = Nuggets, the other Western ABA team. Beat LA!, then beat LA!
daslicer
09-15-2020, 10:47 AM
2nd team = the local Hawks, that didn't work.
3rd team = Bullets AKA Wizards, my first team going back to the Gus Johnson days, a least they made the bubble.
4th team = Bulls, back to my Chicago and Iowa days, not there either.
5th team = Hornets, back to my NC days, nope.
6th team = Nuggets, the other Western ABA team. Beat LA!, then beat LA!
When did you live in NC and what part of NC did you live in?
This is the peak for the Rockets. I don't think they're going to recover from this next season. I'm not counting them as a lock for the playoffs next season.
As of now, my sure locks:
Lakers
Clippers
Warriors
Nuggets
Thunder are out once they trade Chris Paul.
Jazz aint nothing special.
Porzingis injury might hurt Dallas really bad.
Blazers might fight for that eight seed. Everything hinges on Lillard who I think is great in the playoffs but no way can he maintain it during the regular season.
I think Moreyball will still get the Rockets to the playoffs. That is the double-edge to his system...great for the regular season and against lesser teams who aren't scouting it, but has proven time and time again that it's vulnerable in a seven-game series against playoff competition.
The real question is whether a new coach will implement it the same way Pringles did, and that could lead to their greatest falloff. Will they do like the Suns did when they ditched small-ball and brought in Shaq?
MultiTroll
09-15-2020, 02:04 PM
Wanted Raptors but close with no cigar. It will end up being an epic one year Championship run imo.
ace3g
09-15-2020, 08:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiAA7pkVoAAR0Hb?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh__8zhWkAYXw36?format=jpg&name=large
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 08:43 PM
Holy shit how is his wrist not injured
Wanted Raptors but close with no cigar. It will end up being an epic one year Championship run imo.
Fun team. Never count out Masai. They’ll run it back next season though won’t be as good. And then the decks are cleared in the 2021 offseason once Lowry’s salary comes down (he’ll likely resign for less).
The Heat are also really fun. Solid roster construction considering no high picks ... Winslow was the highest and they moved on from him. Never count out a team with Spo coaching.
DAF86
09-15-2020, 09:09 PM
Holy shit how is his wrist not injured
It's definitely sore right about now, tbh.
DAF86
09-15-2020, 09:11 PM
Would really be awesome if the Heat win it all with no marquee player, tbh.
SpurPadre
09-15-2020, 09:30 PM
I don't ask for much so please just have Load Management lose tonight. Praying kid gif...
SpurPadre
09-15-2020, 09:33 PM
Wanted Raptors but close with no cigar. It will end up being an epic one year Championship run imo.
A run that required the Warriors to lose Durant and then Thompson in order for the Raptors to win it.
Spurs oman
09-15-2020, 10:29 PM
I don't ask for much so please just have Load Management lose tonight. Praying kid gif...
Should have asked for more..
He did not just lose ..
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 10:30 PM
KACHOKE
Play Boban
09-15-2020, 10:31 PM
Rooting for Nuggets and Heat tbh
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 10:32 PM
Rooting for Nuggets and Heat tbh
Anyone but the Lakers now would be a dream come true
Play Boban
09-15-2020, 10:33 PM
Anyone but the Lakers now would be a dream come true
True tbh
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 10:36 PM
https://twitter.com/DejounteMurray/status/1306072588028973056?s=19
FUCK KAWHI LEONARD!
FUCK MARCUS MORRIS!
FUCK PATRICK BEVERLY!
AND LOL PLAYOFF P!
Play Boban
09-15-2020, 10:42 PM
https://twitter.com/DejounteMurray/status/1306072588028973056?s=19
Can’t wait to hear Lamarcus Aldridge cry about this tbh :cry
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 10:44 PM
https://twitter.com/kevkage_/status/1306072880019574784?s=09
exstatic
09-15-2020, 10:53 PM
My secondary team is the first one to beat one of the LA teams, besides one of them beating the other.
So , Go Nuggets!!
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 11:15 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1306080609677307905?s=19
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 11:21 PM
https://twitter.com/highkin/status/1306083938415173632?s=19
How dumb is Paul George?
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 11:25 PM
https://twitter.com/highkin/status/1306083938415173632?s=19
How dumb is Paul George?
https://twitter.com/killa_beto/status/1306085028896546817?s=19
Lmfao
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 11:32 PM
"Paul George had fewer made field goals (4) in game 7 than the number of first round picks the Clippers gave up to get him (5)."
Dejounte
09-15-2020, 11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/nuggets/status/1306081960507273216?s=19
SpurPadre
09-15-2020, 11:38 PM
Can’t wait to hear Lamarcus Aldridge cry about this tbh :cry
He'll demand a trade again, tbh.
ismael-robert
09-15-2020, 11:39 PM
Now where is Will Barton...doing his best kawhi interpretation...get in da bubble fool
Sugus
09-15-2020, 11:40 PM
https://twitter.com/killa_beto/status/1306085028896546817?s=19
Lmfao
Can't expect anything else from a snake other than parseltongue, tbh. Glad these Shitters got their asses handed to them. Only Fakers left to be taken down. Go Nugs!
lefty20
09-16-2020, 02:44 AM
Fucking love the Nuggets for not making me root for the Lakers in WCFs. Just hope that they got enough juice left to knock off the Lakers as well.
spurspl
09-16-2020, 03:30 AM
I LOVE U DENVER!!! <3
Rummpd
09-16-2020, 05:19 AM
Fucking love the Nuggets for not making me root for the Lakers in WCFs. Just hope that they got enough juice left to knock off the Lakers as well.
All aboard this ride for as long as it last. Jokic and Murray vs. DaQuit and LaRoid? No contest - Go Nuggets.
Drom John
09-16-2020, 09:23 AM
When did you live in NC and what part of NC did you live in?
When I worked at Wake Forest 1991-1996, I had Demon Deacon season tickets, and watched future NBA players Chris King, Rodney Rogers, Randolph Childress, some guy that graduated in 1997, Rusty LaRue and Loren Woods. And now that I have been Netflixing Buffy, Matt Blucas.
exstatic
09-16-2020, 09:56 AM
All aboard this ride for as long as it last. Jokic and Murray vs. DaQuit and LaRoid? No contest - Go Nuggets.
I don’t see LAL having any more luck stopping the Jokic/Murray pick and roll than the LAC. Jokic is just too good at reading and picking apart your defense, and if you try to make him score, he will.
Brazil
09-16-2020, 03:50 PM
Raptors (go Canada) and Clippers (go Kawhi!)
I also like Denver but only because Jokic is a joy to watch
well bro.. and now ?
:lmao
ace3g
09-17-2020, 07:49 PM
Heat making a comeback.
4:50 - 3rd
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
MIA
28
19
22
69
BOS
31
29
11
71
don't call it a...
3:24 - 3rd
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
MIA
28
19
25
72
BOS
31
29
11
71
ace3g
09-17-2020, 08:34 PM
Brown just missed a corner 3 to tie game
10.6 - 4th
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
MIA
28
19
37
20
104
BOS
31
29
17
24
101
ace3g
09-17-2020, 08:39 PM
Heat 10-1 in these playoffs
Final
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
MIA
28
19
37
22
106
BOS
31
29
17
24
101
RD2191
09-17-2020, 08:46 PM
I am now rooting for the Heat. :lol
Robz4000
09-17-2020, 08:50 PM
San Antonio Heat alive and well
Dejounte
09-17-2020, 09:01 PM
This Heat team is for real. Wow.
gambit1990
09-17-2020, 11:11 PM
the dragon is leading the 10-1 miami heat in scoring.
gambit1990
09-17-2020, 11:16 PM
that's who i wanted the spurs to trade parker for in 2016 but posters thought that would be awful idea :lol:lol
DAF86
09-18-2020, 12:51 AM
The Heat might really be able to win it all, tbh.
ace3g
09-18-2020, 07:58 PM
Charles just GUARANTEED Lakers in 5, so Nuggets have a great chance!!!
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:03 PM
32.4 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
DEN
21
29
28
21
99
LAL
29
31
22
18
100
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:03 PM
Joker with tip in
101-100
30 sec left
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:04 PM
Brow answers back with a quick runner
26.7 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
DEN
21
29
28
23
101
LAL
29
31
22
20
102
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:05 PM
Joker with a hook shot in the paint
20.8 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
DEN
21
29
28
25
103
LAL
29
31
22
20
102
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Caruso misses shot, 50/50 ball goes to Green, gets blocked in corner.
2.1 sec left- Lakers ball
Obi Juan Kenobi
09-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Anthony Davis wow!!!
ace3g
09-20-2020, 09:09 PM
Davis hits the buzzer beater 3...
ZeusWillJudge
09-20-2020, 09:09 PM
damnation what a finish.
ace3g
09-22-2020, 08:46 PM
8:36 - 2nd
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
27
2
29
DEN
29
15
44
ace3g
09-22-2020, 09:59 PM
They didn't close out 2nd Q well and started 3rdQ slow as well but back on track
End of 3rd
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
27
26
22
75
DEN
29
34
30
93
ace3g
09-22-2020, 10:18 PM
Lakers coming back
7:38 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
27
26
22
16
91
DEN
29
34
30
6
99
Dejounte
09-22-2020, 10:23 PM
Not watching the game but how the hell does Davis have only one rebound?
ace3g
09-22-2020, 10:32 PM
Nuggets regained some composure
1:13 - 4th
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
27
26
22
24
99
DEN
29
34
30
15
108
ace3g
09-22-2020, 10:38 PM
Nuggets get the win
Final
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
27
26
22
31
106
DEN
29
34
30
21
114
gambit1990
09-22-2020, 10:51 PM
jerami grant with 26 points.
Rusty
09-22-2020, 11:04 PM
2nd team is the Miami Heat. Remind me of 2014 Spurs and 2004 Pistons:wow
ace3g
09-23-2020, 09:57 PM
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/mia.png&h=100&w=100 Heat
On the Court
FG
3PT
REB
AST
PF
PTS
J. Butler (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6430/jimmy-butler) SF
7-19
0-2
8
2
1
19
B. Adebayo (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066261/bam-adebayo) PF
7-11
0-1
12
4
3
20
A. Iguodala (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala) SG
1-4
1-4
2
1
2
3
G. Dragic (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3423/goran-dragic) PG
6-18
2-7
5
3
2
17
T. Herro (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395725/tyler-herro) SG
13-19
5-9
6
3
1
33
3:47 - 4th
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
23
21
32
17
93
MIA
24
26
27
21
98
ace3g
09-23-2020, 10:21 PM
Heat win and go up 3-1
Final
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
23
21
32
33
109
MIA
24
26
27
35
112
timtonymanu
09-23-2020, 10:26 PM
All in on the San Antonio Heat.
ZeusWillJudge
09-23-2020, 10:29 PM
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/mia.png&h=100&w=100 Heat
On the Court
FG
3PT
REB
AST
PF
PTS
J. Butler (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6430/jimmy-butler) SF
7-19
0-2
8
2
1
19
B. Adebayo (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066261/bam-adebayo) PF
7-11
0-1
12
4
3
20
A. Iguodala (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala) SG
1-4
1-4
2
1
2
3
G. Dragic (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3423/goran-dragic) PG
6-18
2-7
5
3
2
17
T. Herro (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395725/tyler-herro) SG
13-19
5-9
6
3
1
33
Herro has been a badass in the playoffs, hasn't he? He was pretty good for a rookie through the season. But since they started bubble play he's stepped it up. Tonight he was the difference maker for sure.
Sugus
09-23-2020, 11:13 PM
The part about missing the fans makes this playoffs easier on rookies, and shooters in general. It's suspect for sure. Also probably the reason that the Nuggets have been able to claw back from TWO separate 1-3 holes. Easier to take it game by game when there's no fans rabidly screaming at you, little pressure in the atmosphere. Having said that, Herro can shoot...
ace3g
09-24-2020, 09:00 PM
Wow!!!
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1309311328398594048
Dejounte
09-24-2020, 09:21 PM
Anthony Davis with 0 rebounds. Lol todays nba
Dejounte
09-24-2020, 10:15 PM
The amount of help these Lakers have gotten from the refs. Wow
Fireball
09-25-2020, 06:41 AM
That layup by Murray was unreal ... it was more difficult than Jordan's famous layup IMO ... seriously
ZeusWillJudge
09-25-2020, 11:16 AM
The amount of help these Lakers have gotten from the refs. Wow
Even in the highlights on the NBA website. They had a highlight of LeBron "blocking" a shot by Murray. But when you look at the clip 'Bron is late, and Murray got the corner on him. So The King just body-bumps him in the restricted circle. Murray gets shoved too far under the basket and can't get the shot up. LeBron never touched the ball. It was a filthy game by the zebras.
Here, I found it on YouTube. See if you can spot LeBron "blocking" the ball. The only thing he blocks is Murray.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VNhBVtqyKU
Rummpd
09-25-2020, 01:21 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...nels-ask-fouls
Payback for the despicable LAL whining?
Rummpd
09-25-2020, 01:22 PM
I am all in anyone beats LAL. Likely will have to rely on the enigma that is the Heat that seem to play Spurs type ball.
ace3g
09-26-2020, 09:50 PM
2:20 - 3rd
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
DEN
30
21
24
75
LAL
33
28
21
82
ace3g
09-26-2020, 10:36 PM
I don't think Murray should have been out there on one leg most of the game.
Final
TNT
1
2
3
4
T
DEN
30
21
33
23
107
LAL
33
28
26
30
117
Dejounte
09-26-2020, 10:39 PM
So lame .. i hate LeBron's fake ass.
BillMc
09-27-2020, 10:07 AM
It sucks that LeBron (who always wanted to team up with his rivals rather than beat them) will likely get another title and we'll have to hear how his top-ten ass is somehow the Goat despite having a losing record in the finals against three contemporaries. ( 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-3 vs. Curry, 0-1 vs Dirk and the victories over Duncan and Curry were by the narrowest of margins). But the media will run with that GOAT narrative. The greatest thing about LeBron is he's always healthy. That really is his most amazing feat, not teaming up with other All-NBAs or running through the weak East for a decade.
Still, it's better than Morris and Nephew ringing....
TD 21
09-27-2020, 03:22 PM
Easily the best playoffs since '16. No tainted champion, likeable conference finalists (not to be confused with franchises in the cases of Lakers/Celtics) and as much as it's been the Lakers championship to lose with the Clippers/Bucks out of the way, they're just flawed enough that it's not quite a foregone conclusion.
It sucks that LeBron (who always wanted to team up with his rivals rather than beat them) will likely get another title and we'll have to hear how his top-ten ass is somehow the Goat despite having a losing record in the finals against three contemporaries. ( 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-3 vs. Curry, 0-1 vs Dirk and the victories over Duncan and Curry were by the narrowest of margins). But the media will run with that GOAT narrative. The greatest thing about LeBron is he's always healthy. That really is his most amazing feat, not teaming up with other All-NBAs or running through the weak East for a decade.
Still, it's better than Morris and Nephew ringing....
Other than the '11 Mavericks, James has only lost to vastly superior opponents in the Finals.
Even though he's teamed up with "All-NBAs", he's always had flawed teams. He's the antithesis of Scumbag in this respect, who's always had complete teams.
Definitely being in the East paved the way for many of his Finals trips, but he's inarguably a top 2 player all time.
BillMc
09-27-2020, 04:58 PM
he's inarguably a top 2 player all time.
Inarguably? No. You can certainly make arguments for Kareem (without a doubt), Magic, Russell, even contemporaries like Duncan, Shaq. He's kind of a Wilt. Physical marvel. He could easily be 1-8 in Finals without Kyrie and Allen. Maybe, you disagree but "inarguable" no. My guess is you never watched Magic play. Or Bird, who with health, would be ahead of LBJ too likely.
The fact that LBJ tries to game the system, tamper, etc might prove he's smart to some but to me proves he doesn't really want to compete and hurts him on my list. As I said, his biggest asset is his health.
I'd have him in the mid of my Top Ten, maybe even near the bottom.
TD 21
09-27-2020, 05:09 PM
Inarguably? No. You can certainly make arguments for Kareem (without a doubt), Magic, Russell, even contemporaries like Duncan, Shaq. He's kind of a Wilt. Physical marvel. He could easily be 1-8 in Finals without Kyrie and Allen. Maybe, you disagree but "inarguable" no. My guess is you never watched Magic play. Or Bird, who with health, would be ahead of LBJ too likely.
The fact that LBJ tries to game the system, tamper, etc might prove he's smart to some but to me proves he doesn't really want to compete and hurts him on my list. As I said, his biggest asset is his health.
I'd have him in the mid of my Top Ten, maybe even near the bottom.
Your hatred (nothing scares whitey like a dark, outspoken, powerful black man who's unafraid to wield it) is clouding your judgement. There's no credible argument for anyone but Jordan being better.
Like I said, sure he's tried to game the system, but he's also had flawed teams (negative overlap with Wade and no center/defensive anchor; Irving/Love were defensive liabilities; no legit third option/poor spacing on Lakers).
If the eye test doesn't do it for you, the absurd advanced stats and longevity of them should.
MultiTroll
09-27-2020, 05:15 PM
I was not and am not a Lebron Hater but this years rigging is pathetic.
07 please, he was supposed to compete with his Cavs lineup vs Prime Duncan GNob and Parker and a great bench? Even Popped couldn't blow that.
11 clearly Wade is the goat not Lebron. Watch the game and listen to the Mavs players. Wades gloating and taunting when the Heat went up 3rd qtr was the exact fuel that motivated them.
13 yeah that was CIA Popped robbing Tim all the way. But again, a kick ass Spurs team and Lebron would have taken them to 6 games and a close finish in game 6. Not chumpworthy at all.
BillMc
09-27-2020, 06:09 PM
Your hatred (nothing scares whitey like a dark, outspoken, powerful black man who's unafraid to wield it) is clouding your judgement. There's no credible argument for anyone but Jordan being better.
Like I said, sure he's tried to game the system, but he's also had flawed teams (negative overlap with Wade and no center/defensive anchor; Irving/Love were defensive liabilities; no legit third option/poor spacing on Lakers).
If the eye test doesn't do it for you, the absurd advanced stats and longevity of them should.
I have no hatred. And Bill Russell, who is ahead of LBJ on my list, was as outspoken and as powerful as they come. Both in the NBA and civil rights.
As far as arguments. There are plenty.
He has a losing record in the finals against other major contemporaries. Duncan, Curry, Dirk. Maybe even Garnett in the Eastern playoffs (not sure). That itself is an argument. He's missed the playoffs. Duncan always found a way. Remind me when Duncan melted down in the finals like LeBron did in '11?
For historic players = Kareem has more points, more MVPS, more championships. And also lead UCLA to 4 titles. Sure, LBJ didn't even go to college but I'm guessing it unlikely he'd have won a title every year. Definitely if there was only 1 slot for the Bball HOF between Kareem and LBJ, Kareem would get it. He's easily the best or second best (to Jordan) player of all time. Unless you just go by titles. Then its Russell.
Magic also won more titles. And he did so against all time teams like the Moses/Dr. J 76ers, the Bird Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons. He also faced early Jordan. He also passes the eye test better than LBJ.
Wilt lived in the era of those unstoppable Celtics, which cost him some titles, but he still managed 2 titles and put up stats that will never be matched. You can make an argument for him.
Anyway, my point really isn't which of those players is the better than LeBron. It's that there are arguments. It's this media-pushed notion that the Goat is either LBJ or Jordan and no one else. This is just a combination of ways to generate interest and something to give the talking heads something to spew about "Is the guy currently best in the game, the greatest ever?" because that is not as sexy as remembering that there have been many contenders in the history of the league, and you can make an argument based on whatever criteria you wish.
But, at least, I'd take Jordan, Kareem, Magic and Russell over LBJ. And maybe our own Duncan too.
And while they'd be lower overall career than LBJ, I'd take Wilt, Bird and Shaq at their peaks over him too. The Laker faithful will bring up Kobe too, but I'd have him well below everyone else I mentioned including LBJ.
Rummpd
09-27-2020, 06:19 PM
Go Heat win and get a little rest before facing despicable LAL
ace3g
09-27-2020, 08:58 PM
1:33 - 4th
ESPN
1
2
3
4
T
BOS
27
33
26
20
106
MIA
33
29
26
31
119
timtonymanu
09-27-2020, 08:59 PM
San Antonio Heat!
TD 21
09-27-2020, 10:44 PM
I have no hatred. And Bill Russell, who is ahead of LBJ on my list, was as outspoken and as powerful as they come. Both in the NBA and civil rights.
As far as arguments. There are plenty.
He has a losing record in the finals against other major contemporaries. Duncan, Curry, Dirk. Maybe even Garnett in the Eastern playoffs (not sure). That itself is an argument. He's missed the playoffs. Duncan always found a way. Remind me when Duncan melted down in the finals like LeBron did in '11?
For historic players = Kareem has more points, more MVPS, more championships. And also lead UCLA to 4 titles. Sure, LBJ didn't even go to college but I'm guessing it unlikely he'd have won a title every year. Definitely if there was only 1 slot for the Bball HOF between Kareem and LBJ, Kareem would get it. He's easily the best or second best (to Jordan) player of all time. Unless you just go by titles. Then its Russell.
Magic also won more titles. And he did so against all time teams like the Moses/Dr. J 76ers, the Bird Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons. He also faced early Jordan. He also passes the eye test better than LBJ.
Wilt lived in the era of those unstoppable Celtics, which cost him some titles, but he still managed 2 titles and put up stats that will never be matched. You can make an argument for him.
Anyway, my point really isn't which of those players is the better than LeBron. It's that there are arguments. It's this media-pushed notion that the Goat is either LBJ or Jordan and no one else. This is just a combination of ways to generate interest and something to give the talking heads something to spew about "Is the guy currently best in the game, the greatest ever?" because that is not as sexy as remembering that there have been many contenders in the history of the league, and you can make an argument based on whatever criteria you wish.
But, at least, I'd take Jordan, Kareem, Magic and Russell over LBJ. And maybe our own Duncan too.
And while they'd be lower overall career than LBJ, I'd take Wilt, Bird and Shaq at their peaks over him too. The Laker faithful will bring up Kobe too, but I'd have him well below everyone else I mentioned including LBJ.
Russell was old school, which meant being subtler. James is more in your face, which generally bothers white people, especially older ones.
Again, outside of the '11 Finals, which of those series did he have a chance to win? He quietly played out of his mind in the '14 Finals and his team still lost by a record 70 points over 5 games. He missed the playoffs last season while injured and with a mediocre at best team in a deep conference.
You're just spouting results without context. Given James' level of play, it's fair to say if you gave him the circumstances of someone like Abdul-Jabbar and especially Russell (limited teams/rounds back then), he'd have done the same thing. Chamberlain's counting stats are also due in significant part to the era. This is another reason why catch all metrics paint a clearer picture.
None of these players faced all time teams like the Spurs, Warriors and to a lesser extent Celtics, with mostly significantly worse teams ('13 and '15 were exceptions).
ZeusWillJudge
09-28-2020, 09:56 AM
Inarguably? No. You can certainly make arguments for Kareem (without a doubt), Magic, Russell, even contemporaries like Duncan, Shaq. He's kind of a Wilt. Physical marvel. He could easily be 1-8 in Finals without Kyrie and Allen. Maybe, you disagree but "inarguable" no. My guess is you never watched Magic play. Or Bird, who with health, would be ahead of LBJ too likely.
The fact that LBJ tries to game the system, tamper, etc might prove he's smart to some but to me proves he doesn't really want to compete and hurts him on my list. As I said, his biggest asset is his health.
I'd have him in the mid of my Top Ten, maybe even near the bottom.
If he ever watched Magic play, it was in a YouTube highlight montage. (Just so the children are clear - Magic was a physcial phenom, too.) Nobody ever wins Top 10 arguments. But while LeBron deserves a place in the Top 10, he is not "inarguably" at the top of the list.
LeBron has a lot of Finals failures because he chose to spend his whole career in the East, so he got more than his share of Finals appearances. He finally comes to the West with the assurance of playing on a super-team. But if they had failed this year the media talking heads would still say, "This doesn't change anything."
As for the other stuff? Russell was an activist and an advocate for justice. LeBron is a pimp. Russell stood up when he had MUCH more to lose. LeBron jumped on a bandwagon. and fills his pockets with both hands. But whether it's on the court or off the court, Russell got results and made things better. Bill Russell influenced people to change their behaviors. LeBron influenced them to drink Sprite. I guess that's technically a change of behavior.
Ed Helicopter Jones
09-28-2020, 10:27 AM
Your hatred (nothing scares whitey like a dark, outspoken, powerful black man who's unafraid to wield it) is clouding your judgement. There's no credible argument for anyone but Jordan being better.
Like I said, sure he's tried to game the system, but he's also had flawed teams (negative overlap with Wade and no center/defensive anchor; Irving/Love were defensive liabilities; no legit third option/poor spacing on Lakers).
If the eye test doesn't do it for you, the absurd advanced stats and longevity of them should.
You're accusing someone of being racist with zero proof. People are very quick to pull the racist card whenever someone disagrees with them these days. "You can't accept that Lebron James is a top-2 all-time talent...you must be a racist" is exactly what you just said. Not a good look for you, or anyone, who chooses to talk out of their ass without the ability to back it up.
As BillMc points out, there are lots of great players that could be included in that all-time greatest argument. It just depends on how you rank their attributes and accomplishments. The media props up Lebron as the GOAT. I'm not sure he's earned it, unchallenged. He's worthy of inclusion, but I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion by any stretch. Wilt, Russell and Kareem, all have an argument for that top spot with Jordan.
lefty
09-28-2020, 10:39 AM
. The media props up Lebron as the GOAT. .
Pretty sure they are still propping up MJ as the GOAT
Guess it's up to the Heat now. Would be an amazing story if they could win it all.
daslicer
09-28-2020, 01:09 PM
Russell was old school, which meant being subtler. James is more in your face, which generally bothers white people, especially older ones.
Again, outside of the '11 Finals, which of those series did he have a chance to win? He quietly played out of his mind in the '14 Finals and his team still lost by a record 70 points over 5 games. He missed the playoffs last season while injured and with a mediocre at best team in a deep conference.
You're just spouting results without context. Given James' level of play, it's fair to say if you gave him the circumstances of someone like Abdul-Jabbar and especially Russell (limited teams/rounds back then), he'd have done the same thing. Chamberlain's counting stats are also due in significant part to the era. This is another reason why catch all metrics paint a clearer picture.
None of these players faced all time teams like the Spurs, Warriors and to a lesser extent Celtics, with mostly significantly worse teams ('13 and '15 were exceptions).
Russel was not subtle. I watched a few documentaries about him and during his playing days he spoke out for civil rights and against racism much like Lebron is doing today except he was dealing with a much more harsher climate. His own house got vandalized and broken into a few times simply because people didn't like him living in a white neighborhood. Russel was not loved by white people in his playing days if anything he was much more hated than Lebron since the racial tension was even greater than what it is today.
TD 21
09-28-2020, 05:15 PM
If he ever watched Magic play, it was in a YouTube highlight montage. (Just so the children are clear - Magic was a physcial phenom, too.) Nobody ever wins Top 10 arguments. But while LeBron deserves a place in the Top 10, he is not "inarguably" at the top of the list.
LeBron has a lot of Finals failures because he chose to spend his whole career in the East, so he got more than his share of Finals appearances. He finally comes to the West with the assurance of playing on a super-team. But if they had failed this year the media talking heads would still say, "This doesn't change anything."
As for the other stuff? Russell was an activist and an advocate for justice. LeBron is a pimp. Russell stood up when he had MUCH more to lose. LeBron jumped on a bandwagon. and fills his pockets with both hands. But whether it's on the court or off the court, Russell got results and made things better. Bill Russell influenced people to change their behaviors. LeBron influenced them to drink Sprite. I guess that's technically a change of behavior.
There's no credible argument for anyone but Jordan. Pretending otherwise tells me you're archaic, unknowledgeable, biased or some combination thereof.
You're accusing someone of being racist with zero proof. People are very quick to pull the racist card whenever someone disagrees with them these days. "You can't accept that Lebron James is a top-2 all-time talent...you must be a racist" is exactly what you just said. Not a good look for you, or anyone, who chooses to talk out of their ass without the ability to back it up.
As BillMc points out, there are lots of great players that could be included in that all-time greatest argument. It just depends on how you rank their attributes and accomplishments. The media props up Lebron as the GOAT. I'm not sure he's earned it, unchallenged. He's worthy of inclusion, but I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion by any stretch. Wilt, Russell and Kareem, all have an argument for that top spot with Jordan.
No, I'm not. I'm saying certain white people, particularly older ones, whether subconsciously or not, have a problem with James' sort of "blackness". These are the same types who generally and not coincidentally are fans of Barkley.
The media props up Jordan as the GOAT and says James is the only other one in the discussion. There's many things to rightfully criticize them about, but this isn't one.
Russel was not subtle. I watched a few documentaries about him and during his playing days he spoke out for civil rights and against racism much like Lebron is doing today except he was dealing with a much more harsher climate. His own house got vandalized and broken into a few times simply because people didn't like him living in a white neighborhood. Russel was not loved by white people in his playing days if anything he was much more hated than Lebron since the racial tension was even greater than what it is today.
Subtle might not have been the most appropriate word, but he had a different personality than James.
Sugus
09-28-2020, 06:17 PM
There's no credible argument for anyone but Jordan. Pretending otherwise tells me you're archaic, unknowledgeable, biased or some combination thereof.
There's certainly an argument for Kareem to be made, don't paint it so black-and-white. All-time lists are incredibly subjective anyways, and unless you're going full scientific method, with tangible parameters for which you judge and rate each participant and shit, there's definitely room for discussion. In fact, I'd say there's an argument to be made for Timmy as well (but I realize how rich it sounds coming from a Spurs fan). Especially so since LeBron's strongest arguments fall towards the "longevity" part of the "peak vs longevity" usual debate, and both Kareem and Timmy were incredibly longevous in their production.
TD 21
09-28-2020, 06:43 PM
There's certainly an argument for Kareem to be made, don't paint it so black-and-white. All-time lists are incredibly subjective anyways, and unless you're going full scientific method, with tangible parameters for which you judge and rate each participant and shit, there's definitely room for discussion. In fact, I'd say there's an argument to be made for Timmy as well (but I realize how rich it sounds coming from a Spurs fan). Especially so since LeBron's strongest arguments fall towards the "longevity" part of the "peak vs longevity" usual debate, and both Kareem and Timmy were incredibly longevous in their production.
Not a credible one. Abdul-Jabbar is more of a consensus third and then you can start debating between Duncan, O'Neal, Johnson, Bird, Chamberlain, etc.
Rummpd
09-28-2020, 07:46 PM
KAJ is the GOAT
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/kareem-abdul-jabbar-is-the-best-basketball-player-ever/amp/
Sugus
09-29-2020, 12:00 AM
Not a credible one. Abdul-Jabbar is more of a consensus third and then you can start debating between Duncan, O'Neal, Johnson, Bird, Chamberlain, etc.
Well, that's kind of your prerrogative... I could very well say LeBron doesn't have a "credible" case for #2. I don't see where LBJ is so above-and-beyond Kareem that there is no argument to be made - and what's "credible" supposed to mean anyways? For starters, Kareem has twice as many rings as LeBron does right now. Looks like a pretty good base for a case to me, tbh.
To be honest though, I don't really care to go on with the "who's better" debate. Was just pointing out that the media-painted picture of only 2 possibilities for #1 and #2 all-time isn't so set in stone.
TD 21
09-29-2020, 12:02 AM
Well, that's kind of your prerrogative... I could very well say LeBron doesn't have a "credible" case for #2. I don't see where LBJ is so above-and-beyond Kareem that there is no argument to be made - and what's "credible" supposed to mean anyways? For starters, Kareem has twice as many rings as LeBron does right now. Looks like a pretty good base for a case to me, tbh.
To be honest though, I don't really care to go on with the "who's better" debate. Was just pointing out that the media-painted picture of only 2 possibilities for #1 and #2 all-time isn't so set in stone.
Watch the games, look at the impact stats (not the counting ones) and you'll know.
I missed when Abdul-Jabbar had to face significantly better teams in all but one of his Finals losses. Never understood why people just spout Finals records, like all paths are equal.
Rummpd
09-29-2020, 09:40 AM
Watch the games, look at the impact stats (not the counting ones) and you'll know.
I missed when Abdul-Jabbar had to face significantly better teams in all but one of his Finals losses. Never understood why people just spout Finals records, like all paths are equal.
Jabbar had a more unstoppable shot (especially not ref aided), won wins/titles in college, was more dominant defensively, and had 6 MVPS and 6 Titles. He made his teams even better than James made his. There is no debate versus James.
Watch the games, look at the impact stats (not the counting ones) and you'll know.
I missed when Abdul-Jabbar had to face significantly better teams in all but one of his Finals losses. Never understood why people just spout Finals records, like all paths are equal.
The best win the games that matter...otherwise you aren't the best.
If you are arguing that LeBron is the best player to lose 6 Finals, I'll agree with you there.
MultiTroll
09-29-2020, 10:31 AM
All in on Heat now.
WWE Lakers could be fixed tho.
lefty
09-29-2020, 10:34 AM
Lebron is better than Duncan tbh
As for the Finals I'm rooting for Miami, not because I hate the Lakers, but because I like this Heat team tbh
MultiTroll
09-29-2020, 10:37 AM
Lebron is better than Duncan tbh
Uh huh.
Hey let's help you get some tickets to the Lebron movie when it comes out 'kay?
lefty
09-29-2020, 10:51 AM
Uh huh.
Hey let's help you get some tickets to the Lebron movie when it comes out 'kay?
Already got them
SuperCam
09-29-2020, 01:38 PM
Already got them
:lol
Sugus
09-29-2020, 02:23 PM
Jabbar had a more unstoppable shot (especially not ref aided), won wins/titles in college, was more dominant defensively, and had 6 MVPS and 6 Titles. He made his teams even better than James made his. There is no debate versus James.
But did you watch the games and look at impact stats? :lol
TD 21
09-29-2020, 02:42 PM
Jabbar had a more unstoppable shot (especially not ref aided), won wins/titles in college, was more dominant defensively, and had 6 MVPS and 6 Titles. He made his teams even better than James made his. There is no debate versus James.
James generated more efficient offense for his team (granted, Abdul-Jabbar's prime was mostly pre 3 and it was in it's infancy in his post prime), never played college, was more versatile defensively, only hasn't won more than 4 MVP's because of vote fatigue and has lost all but one of his Finals to one of the greatest teams of all time.
The best win the games that matter...otherwise you aren't the best.
If you are arguing that LeBron is the best player to lose 6 Finals, I'll agree with you there.
Such nonsense, spouting results without context. If peak James, about as good a player who ever lived, couldn't come close to beating two all time teams in various series, then no one was.
But did you watch the games and look at impact stats? :lol
Who needs those when you can spout results without context and rely on counting stats.
ZeusWillJudge
09-30-2020, 08:15 PM
With the Finals starting, this just got a lot clearer. I would REALLY love to see Miami kill Goliath.
Dejounte
09-30-2020, 08:18 PM
With the Finals starting, this just got a lot clearer. I would REALLY love to see Miami kill Goliath.
Fuck, that would be amazing. But the NBA has disappointed me so many times.
ace3g
09-30-2020, 08:38 PM
Look who checked-in to the Finals
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjNOmrcXcAAOlm6?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjNOmFGX0AEVi8B?format=jpg&name=large
SpurPadre
09-30-2020, 09:28 PM
Damn Manu, why do you bother watching this shitshow?
SpurPadre
09-30-2020, 09:30 PM
This will be a more one-sided Finals than when we curbstomped LeBron in '07. What a fucking joke. Just give LeBron his little, asterisked ring and call it a season.
daslicer
09-30-2020, 09:40 PM
Look who checked-in to the Finals
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjNOmrcXcAAOlm6?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjNOmFGX0AEVi8B?format=jpg&name=large
Pop actually looks happy.
daslicer
09-30-2020, 09:41 PM
This will be a more one-sided Finals than when we curbstomped LeBron in '07. What a fucking joke. Just give LeBron his little, asterisked ring and call it a season.
I would say this could also be like Nets vs Lakers in '02 which was pretty awful to watch.
SpurPadre
09-30-2020, 09:50 PM
Pop actually looks happy.
I think you're mistaking Pop for Bill Walton. On another note, I'm half expecting Dirk to look down and say "Thanks for the foul, Manu!"
ace3g
09-30-2020, 10:14 PM
Injuries in Game 1 are going to impact this series.
SpurPadre
09-30-2020, 10:34 PM
Injuries in Game 1 are going to impact this series.
It was over as soon as Butler said they weren't really the underdogs.
RC_Drunkford
09-30-2020, 10:54 PM
Fuck the Lakers
Butler injured.
Bam injured.
Goran injured (already ruled out for the series).
Lakers led by 30 late in the third. Game wasn't really even close in the 2nd half.
Looks like this one is a wrap before it even really got started.
FTL.
GAustex
10-01-2020, 06:35 PM
NBA Finals Ratings Plummet, Game 1 Is Down Nearly 50 Percent From Last Year And Is The Least Watched Finals Game In Recorded History
Spurs oman
10-02-2020, 02:45 PM
Down to the heat ..
One last stand today if they dont make it .. its over.
And at least we enjoyed that one series involving #2
Down to the heat ..
One last stand today if they dont make it .. its over.
And at least we enjoyed that one series involving #2
It's not ideal, but I'm fine with LeBron winning. He's already going down as one of the GOATs, so another ring or two doesn't change much there. Lakers fans will always be insufferable win or lose, so ditto.
On the other hand, Kawhi and Uncle finally got their wish to go to L.A. and they tried to build a superteam around him....and they almost lost to Dallas then blew a 3-1 series lead to the Nuggets. That's enough to satisfy me for this year, all things considered.
RC_Drunkford
10-02-2020, 07:57 PM
Bam is out. Will be a blowout
daslicer
10-02-2020, 08:11 PM
It's not ideal, but I'm fine with LeBron winning. He's already going down as one of the GOATs, so another ring or two doesn't change much there. Lakers fans will always be insufferable win or lose, so ditto.
On the other hand, Kawhi and Uncle finally got their wish to go to L.A. and they tried to build a superteam around him....and they almost lost to Dallas then blew a 3-1 series lead to the Nuggets. That's enough to satisfy me for this year, all things considered.
Agreed Kawhi losing was enough to fulfill me for these playoffs. The Lakers losing would have just been icing on the cake. I'm sure we'll eventually get to see a year where both LA teams don't win anything which will be glorious to see.
RC_Drunkford
10-02-2020, 09:22 PM
I think after these finals there's a very high possibility that the Heat will try to get Aldridge via trade. That's the type of player they are missing. LA loves to play against AD and Dwight
Seventyniner
10-02-2020, 10:06 PM
Agreed Kawhi losing was enough to fulfill me for these playoffs. The Lakers losing would have just been icing on the cake. I'm sure we'll eventually get to see a year where both LA teams don't win anything which will be glorious to see.
Well, the Lakers had gone 8 years since their last playoff win and the Clippers have (still) never made the conference finals. I don't know how much more you want.
daslicer
10-02-2020, 11:58 PM
Well, the Lakers had gone 8 years since their last playoff win and the Clippers have (still) never made the conference finals. I don't know how much more you want.
I'm not complaining granted it would be great if the Lakers never won but I know that's not realistic.
daslicer
10-03-2020, 12:00 AM
I think after these finals there's a very high possibility that the Heat will try to get Aldridge via trade. That's the type of player they are missing. LA loves to play against AD and Dwight
LMA's value is going to go up high after these playoffs. A lot of teams are going to want him to match up with AD. I think Warriors,Nuggets,Heat,Blazers will all have interest in him.
Rusty
10-03-2020, 12:31 AM
LMA's value is going to go up high after these playoffs. A lot of teams are going to want him to match up with AD. I think Warriors,Nuggets,Heat,Blazers will all have interest in him.
The problem is he's 35 years old so I'm not quite sure if he's really that effective. But watching AD dominate this playoff run makes me wonder why LMA couldn't replicate what AD is doing during his entire time on the Spurs team. They're very similar players, they both like to shoot mid-range shots and they're both incredibly strong and able to dominate inside. AD is a better defender than LMA though
daslicer
10-03-2020, 12:49 AM
The problem is he's 35 years old so I'm not quite sure if he's really that effective. But watching AD dominate this playoff run makes me wonder why LMA couldn't replicate what AD is doing during his entire time on the Spurs team. They're very similar players, they both like to shoot mid-range shots and they're both incredibly strong and able to dominate inside. AD is a better defender than LMA though
Even at his age he's valuable much like Karl Malone was at 40. Think about how the Lakers got Malone at 40 just to help contain Duncan. LMA can be used in that type of role but be better since he still has a good 2-3 years left of being an all-star caliber type of player. LMA is a big body so he can physically wear down AD on both ends with his big body. Which would be a huge help for any contending team. Imagine how much of a help LMA would have been for the Nuggets when Dwight was playing physical with Jokic but they had no one to do the same to AD.
LMA is not as athletic or as fast as AD. LMA is physically much bigger than AD and has a better post up game. :lol LMA never dominated the playoffs as a Spur like AD is doing right now because he never got to play with Lebron James. Obviously AD is the better player.
Rummpd
10-03-2020, 05:50 AM
Congrats LAL fans on the Fakers hitting shots against the remaining JV Miami Heat scrub team. "DaQuit" not "LeRoid" is going to be the MVP but that pesky Rondo and Caruso have hit the big shots. Celebrate in typical LA fashion next week (probably torching cars per usual) after you officially get the **Bubble Title. :wtf
LMA's value is going to go up high after these playoffs. A lot of teams are going to want him to match up with AD. I think Warriors,Nuggets,Heat,Blazers will all have interest in him.
It may actually also be a blessing that he didn't play in the playoffs...unless he had helped played out of his mind, he only stood to hurt his value in the bubble.
Recency bias is a real thing. Contending teams are going to be focused on containing guys like Davis, Jokic, Embiid and Bam, and fresh in their minds will be guys like Harrell and Whiteside getting abused. Meanwhile, LMA's stock is basically where it has been...fringe All-Star center/PF who suddenly seems capable of shooting threes.
I still think the market for Aldridge would be much greater than the market for DeRozan despite DDR's good play in the bubble.
ace3g
10-04-2020, 04:40 PM
Might as well give the trophy to Lakers now.
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ace3g
10-04-2020, 06:10 PM
I'd like to know how many PPG and RPG have been missing from opposition in the Finals for all the GOAT contenders.
Rummpd
10-04-2020, 09:24 PM
LOL Lakers losing to an injured JV Lite team tonight.
SpurPadre
10-04-2020, 09:26 PM
Lakers will probably win the series in 5 but just the fact that they lost 1 game to a short-handed Heat team will make this one of the weaker NBA Champions of all-time. The '99 Knicks would take these Lakers in 7, tbh.
daslicer
10-04-2020, 10:14 PM
Lakers will probably win the series in 5 but just the fact that they lost 1 game to a short-handed Heat team will make this one of the weaker NBA Champions of all-time. The '99 Knicks would take these Lakers in 7, tbh.
Kurt Thomas,Camby would be great at guarding Davis.
ZeusWillJudge
10-04-2020, 10:25 PM
Might as well give the trophy to Lakers now.
:D
SpurPadre
10-05-2020, 01:04 AM
Kurt Thomas,Camby would be great at guarding Davis.
They would and Sprewell and Allan Houston would've been a handful for the Lakers to cover.
Rummpd
10-05-2020, 10:00 AM
If somehow JV Heat get another game or two it will be very interesting.....
lefty
10-05-2020, 11:45 AM
Lakers will probably win the series in 5 but just the fact that they lost 1 game to a short-handed Heat team will make this one of the weaker NBA Champions of all-time. The '99 Knicks would take these Lakers in 7, tbh.
The 99 Knicks wouldn’t even make the playoffs today
SpurPadre
10-05-2020, 12:29 PM
The 99 Knicks wouldn’t even make the playoffs today
Disagree. Sprewell and Houston would've thrived in today's game.
Seventyniner
10-05-2020, 12:37 PM
The 99 Knicks wouldn’t even make the playoffs today
They almost didn't make the playoffs in 1999 either. They finished 1 game ahead of 9th
ace3g
10-06-2020, 04:57 PM
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LkrFan
10-06-2020, 05:54 PM
Clippers, easily.
tee hee
ace3g
10-06-2020, 10:27 PM
Another random stat I'd like to know from Elias Sports Bureau "how many offensive rebounds have resulted from LeBron's missed 3 pointers?" I have a feeling it leads by a large margin.
Bynumite
10-06-2020, 11:28 PM
Lakers will probably win the series in 5 but just the fact that they lost 1 game to a short-handed Heat team will make this one of the weaker NBA Champions of all-time. The '99 Knicks would take these Lakers in 7, tbh.
The greatest spurs team of all time went to 7 against a washed up Dirk and Monta Ellis in the 1st round :lol
daslicer
10-06-2020, 11:30 PM
The greatest spurs team of all time went to 7 against a washed up Dirk and Monta Ellis in the 1st round :lol
What are you talking about the greatest Spurs team swept the Lakers in '99.
lefty
10-07-2020, 08:42 AM
Another random stat I'd like to know from Elias Sports Bureau "how many offensive rebounds have resulted from LeBron's missed 3 pointers?" I have a feeling it leads by a large margin.
Don't underestimate Danny Green
ace3g
10-09-2020, 10:36 PM
Here we go
16.8 - 4th
ABC
1
2
3
4
T
MIA
25
35
28
21
109
LAL
24
32
26
26
108
Lakers caught a break 2 plays ago when KCP air balled a 3 right to Davis for easy putback.
ace3g
10-09-2020, 10:37 PM
Danny Green misses 3, Morris gets Oreb, lobs goes over Davis and OB.
no timeouts for Heat with 2.2 sec
ace3g
10-09-2020, 10:39 PM
Herro makes both FTs
111-108
ace3g
10-09-2020, 10:39 PM
Heat win, force Game 6!!!
SpurPadre
10-09-2020, 11:09 PM
LOL, Lakers struggling to put away this banged up Heat team. Well, LeBron has always struggled to win when the opponent has a player named Duncan, tbh.
ace3g
10-11-2020, 07:47 PM
welp...
Halftime
ABC
1
2
3
4
T
LAL
28
36
64
MIA
20
16
36
Dejounte
10-11-2020, 07:54 PM
There was just no way Miami had any hope
ace3g
10-11-2020, 08:08 PM
6-14 from the FT line doesn't help.
ace3g
10-11-2020, 08:17 PM
And they decided to play Goran ...
SpurPadre
10-11-2020, 08:53 PM
Welp, LeBron gets to have his little asterisk ring, which he cares about more than any social justice issue he talks about outside the court, no matter what he says postgame. Oh well, he'll NEVER be Jordan and he won't pass TD when all is said abd done. This was LeBron's last and best shot. Now, let's get on with one of the most important offseasons we've ever had.
lefty
10-11-2020, 08:56 PM
SAN ANTONIO LAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!
tbdog
10-11-2020, 09:18 PM
Fake championship. And the NBA ignoring tampering, and as per usual, they get rewarded.
DavidTheGoliath
10-11-2020, 09:19 PM
Fake championship. And the NBA ignoring tampering, and as per usual, they get rewarded.
this one for kobe tho
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