Republican National Convention Thread

[TSA]

He brought in another man all on his own. I don't even have to imagine it.


I bet I’m naked in your head.

:submit reply:

:rollin

[Ef-man]

Derp: tell me more about these naked men TSA. Don’t leave me hanging, please, please.

#TellMeMoreTSA. #NakedMenReImagining

[Spurtacular]

^^^
DMC Sadbert, maybe? Dark horse candidate. :lol

[Blake]

:submit reply:

:rollin

To recap what's in your head:

Me, my babe calling me to come to bed and Sancho.

I mean, is it really a stretch to think you're imagining us all naked or is this a fully clothed fantasy?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1299195842344226817?s=20

Lunatics

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1299195842344226817?s=20

Lunatics

:cry But they're gonna get Zombie Rapist into the White House :cry
:cry Just watch :cry
:cry Polls :cry

[Spurtacular]

To recap what's in your head:

Me, my babe calling me to come to bed and Sancho.

I mean, is it really a stretch to think you're imagining us all naked or is this a fully clothed fantasy?

:lol Blake's bringing up Sancho all on his own now.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1299219624211476480?s=20

It's a failed ideology.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1299219937517613056?s=20

[DMX7]

Imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse had become a police officer like he dreamed of... I’m sure that would have ended well.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/SHIRLEYtemple__/status/1299215681985093637?s=20

Trump was getting criticized earlier for "low energy" but his calm talking is able reach different people.

[FrostKing]

Meh. Most this human trash will be eventually incarcerated or gunned down

[Nathan89]

Imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse had become a police officer like he dreamed of... I’m sure that would have ended well.


Yeah, because self defense is very bad.

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/SHIRLEYtemple__/status/1299215681985093637?s=20

Trump was getting criticized earlier for "low energy" but his calm talking is able reach different people.

Michael Steele, former Chair of the Republican National Party, just said he is voting for Biden.

[DMX7]

Yeah, because self defense is very bad.

A jury will ultimately decide but it’s looking like a possible life sentence for him — being charged as an adult.

[Reck]

What exactly did he say that convinced this "democrat?"

There was nothing new in there.

[Ef-man]

^^^
DMC Sadbert, maybe? Dark horse candidate. :lol

Nah derp.

Still the same naked man in your head!

As trump would say, bet you didnt know, but some people are smart, fast witted, and can change their tone for their alts!

That is right, same person living in same derp’s head, just using different tone!

Boom, mind blown!

But wait, there are more alts you dont know about. And they too will live in your head.

Go to sleep, and dream of naked men (present company excluded).

:lmao

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1299197621832232960?s=20

Trump would landslide if the media didn't shill for Democrats. No reasonable person would vote for this toxic ideology if they were aware.

[FrostKing]

Trump would landslide if the media didn't shill for Democrats. No reasonable person would vote for this toxic ideology if they were aware.
Yes but if the mainstream media was more fair then Democrats would have been forced to call out the rioters months ago

In this case it is unraveling at the finish line. I think this is also why FNC didn't start airing massive such content til the past few weeks.

[Reck]

Duh !
Iraq war also


Yeah should have definitely picked a candidate who didn’t vote in favor of the Iraq War, no question there.

Pence voted for it, too.

How can Trump pretend to care about the Iraq war when Pence voted for it along Biden?

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1299219624211476480?s=20

It's a failed ideology.How do you know they're Biden supporters?

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1299197621832232960?s=20

Trump would landslide if the media didn't shill for Democrats. No reasonable person would vote for this toxic ideology if they were aware.Meh, if Trump loses you'll applaud the violence.

[Nathan89]

Yes but if the mainstream media was more fair then Democrats would have been forced to call out the rioters months ago

In this case it is unraveling at the finish line. I think this is also why FNC didn't start airing massive such content til the past few weeks.

This is true.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes but if the mainstream media was more fair then Democrats would have been forced to call out the rioters months agoThey did. You didn't notice.

[ducks]

How do you know they're Biden supporters?

Since Paul supports trump
Do you think they are Trump supporters?

[ducks]

They did. You didn't notice.

On Fox News not cnn or msnbc
Not Rachel Meadows

[Will Hunting]

Pence voted for it, too.

How can Trump pretend to care about the Iraq war when Pence voted for it along Biden?
He can’t care, neither side has the high ground on it, if the Dems picked an anti war candidate they’d have the high ground.

[Spurtacular]

He can’t care, neither side has the high ground on it, if the Dems picked an anti war candidate they’d have the high ground.

Repubs have the high ground. War mongerer on the top of the Dem ticket.

Yea, you had your chance for solid ground with Tulsi.

[Will Hunting]

Repubs have the high ground.
We’ve already had this argument. All but 1 Republican in Congress voted to approve the war in Iraq.

[Spurtacular]

We’ve already had this argument. All but 1 Republican in Congress voted to approve the war in Iraq.

That's not Trump.

[Will Hunting]

That's not Trump. Sorry.
Last I checked Trump was bragging tonight about how much money he’s pissing away on defense spending and how evil Biden is for wanting to cut defense spending.

If only Bidenn was who Trump says he is, a guy who supports cutting defense spending and implementing M4A.

[ducks]

Not using it on people though !

[Spurtacular]

Last I checked Trump was bragging tonight about how much money he’s pissing away on defense spending.

Yea, I'm not a fan of that. But Biden is the one who engaged in the sham wars, not Trump, who has not warmongered in his four years for a clear high ground.

Again, if you wanted better ground, you should've gotten behind Tulsi.

[Nathan89]

BLM activists are some of the most violent and racist people in America and they have tricked themselves in believing they are morally superior.

[ChumpDumper]

Far right wingers are some of the most violent and racist people in America and they have tricked themselves in believing they are morally superior.FIFY

[Will Hunting]

Yea, I'm not a fan of that. But Biden is the one who engaged in the sham wars, not Trump, who has not warmongered in his four years for a clear high ground.

Again, if you wanted better ground, you should've gotten behind Tulsi.
So which is it? Is Biden a neocon who wants to start senseless wars, or is he a puppet for the leftists who wants to cut defense spending? Trump has indicated he’s both.

Sanders and Tulsi have identical views on foreign policy. I backed the one who was polling above 2%. Would have definitely preferred Tulsi over Biden though.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1299223473009631232?s=20

Imagine supporting a violent group like BLM just because you like their Trojan horse name.

[Spurtacular]

BLM activists are some of the most violent and racist people in America and they have tricked themselves in believing they are morally superior.

They're just a bunch of violent sociopaths running about. They're being used. That's the only trick.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1299223473009631232?s=20

Imagine supporting a violent group like BLM just because you like their Trojan horse name.How do you identify them as actual BLM members?

[Spurtacular]

So which is it? Is Biden a neocon who wants to start senseless wars, or is he a puppet for the leftists who wants to cut defense spending? Trump has indicated he’s both.

Sanders and Tulsi have identical views on foreign policy. I backed the one who was polling above 2%. Would have definitely preferred Tulsi over Biden though.

The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Not at all. His neocon roots are there for all to see regardless.

You won't accept this; but there's something seriously not right about your system. No way Tulsi was standing out from all those puppets and coming in at 0-1 percent.

[Winehole23]

BLM activists are some of the most violent and racist people in America and they have tricked themselves in believing they are morally superior.How many people have died at the hands of BLM activists?

(Hint: your boy Kyle beats them easily.)

[Will Hunting]

The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Not at all. His neocon roots are there for all to see regardless.

You won't accept this; but there's something seriously not right about your system. No way Tulsi was standing out from all those puppets and coming in at 0-1 percent.
I’ve said countless times there’s a lot wrong with the Democratic Party and everything about how it selects candidates, but keep pedaling the fake narrative.

Regardless, it’d be stupid for me to contribute money to a candidate polling at 1% with no shot at winning.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1299184932384768001?s=20

The sad thing is people on this forum push this moronic narrative. The left promotes this nonsense and then blames Trump.

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1299184932384768001?s=20

The sad thing is people on this forum push this moronic narrative. The left promotes this nonsense and then blames Trump.
It’s Trumps America and these riots are happening with him as commander and chief. Deal with it. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

[Reck]

Yea, I'm not a fan of that. But Biden is the one who engaged in the sham wars, not Trump, who has not warmongered in his four years for a clear high ground.

Again, if you wanted better ground, you should've gotten behind Tulsi.

Cite an article where Trump opposed it. Preferably one from the time this was going on, not 15 years into it.

Trump loves to play the revisionist card. He said we should go kill Gadaffi way back when, and when he was running he suddenly was against his overthrow. Must’ve forgotten he was on tape, eh?

[Will Hunting]

Cite an article where Trump opposes it. Preferably one from the time this was going on, not 15 years into it.

Trump loves to play the revisionist card. He said we should go kill Gadaffi way back when, and when he was running he suddenly was against his overthrow. Must’ve forgotten he was on tape, eh?
:tu Trump explicitly said in a Howard Stern interview that he supported the War in Iraq when it was happening. It’s pure revisionist history when Trump says he was always against the war.

[Will Hunting]

Lol Jesus, I live several miles north of the White House but protesters are headed my way. These people aren’t fucking around, hope they put on a show.

[Nathan89]

It’s Trumps America and these riots are happening with him as commander and chief. Deal with it. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

Yes, you can't create factually true yet moronic narrative. Similar to the mainstream media propagandists spewing "mostly peaceful protest".

[Will Hunting]

Yes, you can't create factually true yet moronic narrative. Similar to the mainstream media propagandists spewing "mostly peaceful protest".
You’re literally calling facts moronic :lmao

[Nathan89]

How many people have died at the hands of BLM activists?

(Hint: your boy Kyle beats them easily.)

Kyle responded in self defense.

[hombre]

How many people have died at the hands of BLM activists?

How are you unable to process the difference between peaceful BLM protestors and opportunistic looters?

BLM aren't murdering anyone. More people, including police have actually been killed by right wing boogaloo boys and white supremists.

Democrats understand that not every cop is bad, just the racist ones. We just want to reform and weed them out.

[Will Hunting]

“I’m gonna drive up from Illinois to Wisconsin with my AR-15 so I can shoot people in self defense!”

[Will Hunting]

How are you unable to process the difference between peaceful BLM protestors and opportunistic looters?

BLM aren't murdering anyone. More people, including police have actually been killed by right wing boogaloo boys and white supremists.

Democrats understand that not every cop is bad, just the racist ones. We just want to reform and weed them out.
The guy you’re responding to agrees with you...

[Winehole23]

How are you unable to process the difference between peaceful BLM protestors and opportunistic looters?

BLM aren't murdering anyone. More people, including police have actually been killed by right wing boogaloo boys and white supremists.

Democrats understand that not every cop is bad, just the racist ones. We just want to reform and weed them out.I think you're unfamiliar with the trend of my posting and just lodged a hostile inference that is incorrect.

AFAIK BLM, like Antifa, hasn't killed anyone.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1299184932384768001?s=20

The sad thing is people on this forum push this moronic narrative. The left promotes this nonsense and then blames Trump.
Has Trump ever done anything wrong?

If so, what?

Is he responsible for anything that has gone wrong the last three and a half years?

[Will Hunting]

Has Trump ever done anything wrong?

If so, what?

Is he responsible for anything that has gone wrong the last three and a half years?
OF COURSE HE HAS I DONT EVEN LIKE TRUMP IM JUST AN HONEST BROKER

[Winehole23]

Kyle responded in self defense.Kenosha prosecutors seem to disagree. Rittenhouse will get his day in court.

1299124838083301384

[Will Hunting]

Kyle Shittenhouse was out past curfew with a gun illegally in his possession that he’d transported across state lines.

Not gonna pretend I’m an expert, but notwithstanding any self defense he might have for killing people, pretty sure he broke a few laws in what I just described.

Sorry right wingers, your newest racist vigilante hero aint getting off scottfree George Zimmerman style. He’s gonna go away for a bit, and prison isn’t going to be a fun place for him.

[Nathan89]

Morally bankrupt left declares people racist based on nothing.

[Will Hunting]

Morally bankrupt left declares people racist based on nothing.
He’s a gun obsessed high school dropout who thinks Donald Trump is going to turn his life around.

Ill bet that describes you pretty accurately :lol

[Spurtacular]

I’ve said countless times there’s a lot wrong with the Democratic Party and everything about how it selects candidates, but keep pedaling the fake narrative.

Regardless, it’d be stupid for me to contribute money to a candidate polling at 1% with no shot at winning.

She checked the identity boxes. Woman. Minority. Military. And she didn't have the scandals and impressively stood out.
You were somehow told she was not to be taken seriously by the same people that slobber over these check marks in the past.
Dem Media ain't going to do you right. What's stupid is continuing to believe in their lies.

[Winehole23]

Morally bankrupt left declares people racist based on nothing.Well, can you least admit that's an accurate description of you?

You've argued in these pages that certain IQ groups (as defined by skin tint/race) are inferior to others and need to be separated from their "cultural" superiors for society to work properly. You've made it very clear that the two groups of notably inferior intelligence as measured by IQ in the USA are African-Americans and Central Americans. You've even argued for the establishment of ethnostates.

Is that not a fairly basic form of racism?

[Spurtacular]

Kyle Shittenhouse was out past curfew with a gun illegally in his possession that he’d transported across state lines.

Not gonna pretend I’m an expert, but notwithstanding any self defense he might have for killing people, pretty sure he broke a few laws in what I just described.

Sorry right wingers, your newest racist vigilante hero aint getting off scottfree George Zimmerman style. He’s gonna go away for a bit, and prison isn’t going to be a fun place for him.

What did he do or say that was racist?

[Will Hunting]

She checked the identity boxes. Woman. Minority. Military. And she didn't have the scandals and impressively stood out.
You were somehow told she was not to be taken seriously by the same people that slobber over these check marks in the past.
Dem Media ain't going to do you right. What's stupid is continuing to believe in their lies.
It’s not about what I was told, it’s about reality. Nothing within my control was going to make it so she had a viable chance at winning. You continuing to peddle the narrative that I blindly believe the Dem media is either intellectually dishonest or incredibly stupid.

[Spurtacular]

Cite an article where Trump opposed it. Preferably one from the time this was going on, not 15 years into it.

Trump loves to play the revisionist card. He said we should go kill Gadaffi way back when, and when he was running he suddenly was against his overthrow. Must’ve forgotten he was on tape, eh?

:lol Homework

[Spurtacular]

Nah derp.

Still the same naked man in your head!

As trump would say, bet you didnt know, but some people are smart, fast witted, and can change their tone for their alts!

That is right, same person living in same derp’s head, just using different tone!

Boom, mind blown!

But wait, there are more alts you dont know about. And they too will live in your head.

Go to sleep, and dream of naked men (present company excluded).

:lmao

Sadbert doesn't think his endless jaded blather is this interesting. Slob, blake, or dabom is still where the smart money is.

[Will Hunting]

What did he do or say that was racist?
Drive across state lines with a gun illegally in his possession so he can shoot some n!ggers, for one.

[Spurtacular]

It’s not about what I was told, it’s about reality. Nothing within my control was going to make it so she had a viable chance at winning. You continuing to peddle the narrative that I blindly believe the Dem media is either intellectually dishonest or incredibly stupid.

So you gave them your vote when they lied their asses to you b/c you want to feel like a winner. See how it works.

[Spurtacular]

Drive across state lines with a gun illegally in his possession so he can shoot some n!ggers, for one.

Some terrorists. Patriot stuff, tbh.
And why is it illegal to take a gun into another state in the first place? Did the second amendment stop existing?

[Will Hunting]

So you gave them your vote when they lied their asses to you b/c you want to feel like a winner. See how it works.
No, I give them my vote because the alternative is a political party that thinks global warming is a hoax and also thinks cutting taxes for rich people will help elevate people out of poverty and create a stronger middle class.

But you already knew that.

[Will Hunting]

Some terrorists. Patriot stuff, tbh.

And why is it illegal to take a gun into another state in the first place? Did the second amendment stop existing?
He’s 17 years old you mongoloid, that makes him a minor. Its illegal for the gun to be in his possession in the first place.

[Spurtacular]

No, I give them my vote because the alternative is a political party that thinks global warming is a hoax and also thinks cutting taxes for rich people will help elevate people out of poverty and create a stronger middle class.

But you already knew that.

Yea, repubs are villains and must be beaten at all costs. No matter if they're rigging your side of the coin; you got your principles after all. Those corrupt prostitutes will fight for your lofty ideals. Book it. :tu

[Will Hunting]

Yea, repubs are villains and must be beaten at all costs. No matter if they're rigging your side of the coin; you got your principles after all. Those corrupt prostitutes will fight for your lofty ideals. Book it. :tu
I’ll take Dem corruption over Republican corruption any day of the week. Sorry, nothing is going to convince me otherwise. The last two Republican presidents we’ve had have cratered the country’s economy in ways Democrats never have.

[Spurtacular]

He’s 17 years old you mongoloid, that makes him a minor. Its illegal for the gun to be in his possession in the first place.

Yea, you might get some weaponized charges to stick. But the murder stuff is just a sham designed to galvanize the victim class. :lol That it's backfiring so badly.
Sucks that this kid has to be such a martyr for the Dems downfall; but it is what it is.

[Spurtacular]

I’ll take Dem corruption over Republican corruption any day of the week. Sorry, nothing is going to convince me otherwise.

I wouldn't. If they're willing to disenfranchise you and lie to you, there's nothing they won't do.

[Spurtacular]

The last two Republican presidents we’ve had have cratered the country’s economy in ways Democrats never have.

Bush was really a Democrat in the vein of a Bama/Biden; all the same, the housing crisis goes back to Clinton.
And blaming Trump's bad economy on the scamdemic is silly.

[Winehole23]

I wouldn't. If they're willing to disenfranchise you and lie to you, there's nothing they won't do.Voting for Trump and Republicans, then?

[Will Hunting]

Bush was really a Democrat in the vein of a Bama/Biden; all the same, the housing crisis goes back to Clinton.
And blaming Trump's bad economy on the scamdemic is silly.
It’s easy to always be right when you glibly label any politician who fucks up as someone who’s really from the other party.

I don’t blame Trump’s bad economy on the “scamdemic”, I blame it on Trump.

[hombre]

I think you're unfamiliar with the trend of my posting and just lodged a hostile inference that is incorrect.

AFAIK BLM, like Antifa, hasn't killed anyone.

Sorry, long day.

[Blake]

OF COURSE HE HAS I DONT EVEN LIKE TRUMP IM JUST AN HONEST BROKER

BOTH SIDES EQUALLY BAD

[Blake]

Sadbert doesn't think his endless jaded blather is this interesting. Slob, blake, or dabom is still where the smart money is.

I'll take your smart money

[Will Hunting]

BOTH SIDES EQUALLY BAD
OBAMA
EBOLA
OBAMABOLA!

[Spurtacular]

I'll take your smart money

You have no smart money. Your bull took it all. :lol

[Spurtacular]

It’s easy to always be right when you glibly label any politician who fucks up as someone who’s really from the other party.

I don’t blame Trump’s bad economy on the “scamdemic”, I blame it on Trump.

Would you prefer Obama is really a Republican? If the wording bothers you that much. :lol

We have a pretend two-party system at this point.

[Blake]

You have no smart money. Your bull took it all. :lol

You're such a cowardly pussy :lol

[Winehole23]

Voting for Trump and Republicans, then?Independent minded, but one party gets all the blame and the other one gets all your votes, amirite?

[ChumpDumper]

Would you prefer Obama is really a Republican? If the wording bothers you that much. :lol

We have a pretend two-party system at this point.If Obama is really a Republican, is Trump a Republican?

Yes or no.

[Trill Clinton]

disgusting

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[Spurtacular]

You're such a cowardly pussy :lol

Lashing out won't uncuck you.

[Spurtacular]

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Melanie dressed exactly like Eva

Oh, the humanity!

[Will Hunting]

Would you prefer Obama is really a Republican? If the wording bothers you that much. :lol

We have a pretend two-party system at this point.
In terms of economic policy and foreign policy I’d definitely consider Obama a moderate Republican. Same with Old Joe. Cornell West had the best description of Obama - a Rockefeller Republican in blackface. His healthcare plan was the same healthcare plan as what Dole was peddling in 1996.

Obama got elected and immediately pivoted towards austerity. Joe Biden is going to do the same thing, but it’s still better than a president who wants to turn the country upside down with more tax cuts and safety net slashing.

[ElNono]

:lol You can't have Mike Pompeo and have had Bolton in your administration and pretend to have any moral high ground when it comes to Warmongering

[ElNono]

That's not to say Joe is in any better ground when you invite Colin Powell to your convention...

[Will Hunting]

:lol You can't have Mike Pompeo and have had Bolton in your administration and pretend to have any moral high ground when it comes to Warmongering
Not to mention appointing a lobbyist for Raytheon as your secretary of defense (:lol “draining the swamp”)

[Spurtacular]

In terms of economic policy and foreign policy I’d definitely consider Obama a moderate Republican. Same with Old Joe. Cornell West had the best description of Obama - a Rockefeller Republican in blackface. His healthcare plan was the same healthcare plan as what Dole was peddling in 1996.

Obama got elected and immediately pivoted towards austerity. Joe Biden is going to do the same thing, but it’s still better than a president who wants to turn the country upside down with more tax cuts and safety net slashing.

Austerity if we're not counting all the bailouts and stimulus money maybe.

[ChumpDumper]

Austerity if we're not counting all the bailouts and stimulus money maybe.You don't care about spending, derp.

[ElNono]

Not to mention appointing a lobbyist for Raytheon as your secretary of defense (:lol “draining the swamp”)

To his credit, his foreign policy is a lot like Slick Willy... drop a few rockets here and there and do some targeted assassinations...

[Will Hunting]

Austerity if we're not counting all the bailouts and stimulus money maybe.
Obama’s stimulus package was <$1 trillion, dwarfed by Trump’s stimulus package for COVID-19. For a recession of that Great Recession magnitude, a classic liberal would have a stimulus package well into the trillions. The ARRA stimulus was equal to 5% of total 2008 economic output, the New Deal meanwhile was equal to 40% of 1929 economic output.

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[Spurtacular]

Obama’s stimulus package was <$1 trillion, dwarfed by Trump’s stimulus package for COVID-19. For a recession of that Great Recession magnitude, a classic liberal would have a stimulus package well into the trillions. The ARRA stimulus was equal to 5% of total 2008 economic output, the New Deal meanwhile was equal to 40% of 1929 economic output.

CARES Act is a sham too. But at least every day people got a percentage of that money.

Also :lol @ Great Recession. So lame.

[Will Hunting]

To his credit, his foreign policy is a lot like Slick Willy... drop a few rockets here and there and do some targeted assassinations...
Yeah not starting any retarded wars is something Trump definitely gets credit for but that’s a pretty low bar. I’d give him a lot more credit if he didn’t increase the defense budget. In the end he couldn’t stop himself from going with the same vanilla Republican rhetoric about how “The Democrats want to cut defense spending and leave us weak, I’m increasing it!”

[Winehole23]

To his credit, his foreign policy is a lot like Slick Willy... drop a few rockets here and there and do some targeted assassinations... Bush/Obama levelled this shit up, but Trump puts them both in the shade.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/record-7423-bombs-dropped-afghanistan-2019-report-200128142958633.html
https://time.com/5879354/civilian-deaths-airstrikes-somalia/
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-us-syria-strike-how-many-missiles-were-fired-2017-2018-4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/politics/coalition-airstrikes-retaliation-iraq/index.html
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-war-in-yemen/
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-drone-war-in-pakistan

[Dirks_Finale]

To his credit, his foreign policy is a lot like Slick Willy... drop a few rockets here and there and do some targeted assassinations...

It's one of his greatest attributes, tbh. Loved it when Bill had that approach and love it now under Trump. W is the only guy in my lifetime who thought getting bogged down in costly quagmires was a grand idea.

[hater]

To his credit, his foreign policy is a lot like Slick Willy... drop a few rockets here and there and do some targeted assassinations...

Uh? Pedo willy bombed yugoslavia to the middle ages.

[hater]

Bush/Obama levelled this shit up, but Trump puts them both in the shade.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/record-7423-bombs-dropped-afghanistan-2019-report-200128142958633.html
https://time.com/5879354/civilian-deaths-airstrikes-somalia/
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-us-syria-strike-how-many-missiles-were-fired-2017-2018-4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/politics/coalition-airstrikes-retaliation-iraq/index.html
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-war-in-yemen/
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-drone-war-in-pakistan

Wake me up when Trump bombs a country to the middle ages... tbqh

Trump so far is the first president since Carter NOT to invade/bomb a country to the ground

[Will Hunting]

CARES Act is a sham too. But at least every day people got a percentage of that money.

Also :lol @ Great Recession. So lame.
The CARES Act and and ARRA were both a joke, no argument from me there. To your point, at least the CARES Act sent money to working class Americans. The ARRA was pulled from the playbook of bail out the rich and hope it trickles down to the poor. Gold plated socialism for the rich, bootstrap capitalism for everyone else.

Regarding Great Recession - That’s what it’s called. Sorry if you’re offended by the name that’s been given to GWB’s recession.

[Spurtacular]

Regarding Great Recession - That’s what it’s called. Sorry if you’re offended by the name that’s been given to GWB’s recession.

Yea, I'm aware that the media made up a lame name to paint black president as a hero as Americans battled Bill Clinton's catastrophe.

[Will Hunting]

Sidenote -

Trump had +4 approval rating in the Rasmussen poll released Monday and taken before the start of the convention.

In the Rasmussen poll released today and taken over the past three days, his approval rating is -6.

This poll admittedly doesn’t factor in his speech from last night so the jury is still out, but :lmao his Rasmussen approval rating swinging -10 points over the first three days of the RNC convention.

[Spurtacular]

Wake me up when Trump bombs a country to the middle ages... tbqh

Trump so far is the first president since Carter NOT to invade/bomb a country to the ground

Chumpettes don't have to worry about all those brown people dying. They're going to save the planet from global warming.

[Winehole23]

Wake me up when Trump bombs a country to the middle ages... tbqh

Trump so far is the first president since Carter NOT to invade/bomb a country to the groundTrump ramped up the bombing everywhere, but you're right that he hasn't started any new wars yet.

https://www.courthousenews.com/us-bombing-of-afghanistan-hits-10-year-high/

[Spurtacular]

Sidenote -

Trump had +4 approval rating in the Rasmussen poll released Monday and taken before the start of the convention.

In the Rasmussen poll released today and taken over the past three days, his approval rating is -6.

This poll admittedly doesn’t factor in his speech from last night so the jury is still out, but :lmao his Rasmussen approval rating swinging -10 points over the first three days of the RNC convention.

Dat magic wand is a tough competitor.

[RandomGuy]

Yea, I'm aware that the media made up a lame name to paint black president as a hero as Americans battled Bill Clinton's catastrophe.

Sooo Bush had 8 years to correct "Clinton's catastrophe" but couldn't do it?

:rollin

Your stupid theme about Democrats being incompetent only works if Republican president is incompetent too. Self-pwn

[RandomGuy]

Trump ramped up the bombing everywhere, but you're right that he hasn't started any new wars yet.

https://www.courthousenews.com/us-bombing-of-afghanistan-hits-10-year-high/

Too busy golfing.

[DMC]

Sidenote -

Trump had +4 approval rating in the Rasmussen poll released Monday and taken before the start of the convention.

In the Rasmussen poll released today and taken over the past three days, his approval rating is -6.

This poll admittedly doesn’t factor in his speech from last night so the jury is still out, but :lmao his Rasmussen approval rating swinging -10 points over the first three days of the RNC convention.

It's mind numbing that a speech can sway a voter. Has anyone paid attention to the past 4 years?

[Spurtacular]

Sooo Bush had 8 years to correct "Clinton's catastrophe" but couldn't do it?

:rollin

Your stupid theme about Democrats being incompetent only works if Republican president is incompetent too. Self-pwn

Is this the part where I'm supposed to defend Bush?

It was Clinton's blunder.

It is what it is.

[Will Hunting]

It's mind numbing that a speech can sway a voter. Has anyone paid attention to the past 4 years?
People who need speeches and debates to swing their vote are retards who religiously watch American Idol and Dancing with the Stars. There's no logical reason for how someone is still undecided, the differences between the candidates are abundantly clear at this point.

There's this myth in America that people who still haven't decided are this deeply intellectual group who like to thoroughly review all the facts before determining who to vote for. In reality they're people who never read or watch the news.

[Spurtacular]

It's mind numbing that a speech can sway a voter. Has anyone paid attention to the past 4 years?

It didn't include the speech. But if you believe Trump went down 10 points while Democrats ravaged another town, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Spurminator]

It's mind numbing that a speech can sway a voter. Has anyone paid attention to the past 4 years?

Plenty of heads-in-the-sand conservatives who have done their best to ignore politics for 4 years may be seeing their president speak for the first time in a long time this week, and if their intelligence is still capable of being insulted that's a credit to them.

[ElNono]

Uh? Pedo willy bombed yugoslavia to the middle ages.

Targeted. Didn’t get involved in a war. Trump same thing.

[Will Hunting]

Is this the part where I'm supposed to defend Bush?

It was Clinton's blunder.

It is what it is.
If you want to have a serious conversation about the cause of the financial crisis - it all started when Reagan replaced Volcker with the Ayn Rand nutcase Alan Greenspan as Chairman of the Fed. Greenspan was architect of lending cheap money to the banks and allowing them to run wild with it. He's the primary culprit, more so than any president or other politician was leading up to the crisis.

Clinton shoulder's blame for reappointing Greenspan as Fed Chairman. GWB also reappointed Greenspan (and replaced him with a Greenspan clone after he retired), but also ramped it up a lot more.

During Clinton's presidency median (inflation adjusted) home price went from $180,400.04 to $205,981.40 (inflation adjusted CAGR of 1.7%).

In Bush's first 6 years in office, it went from $205,981.40 to $272,466.21 (inflation adjusted CAGR of 4.8%), before starting to collapse in 2007.

The difference is even more pronounced when you consider that income levels increased during Clinton's term and decreased during Bush's term. Housing values increasing by 4.8% above inflation when income levels and buying power were decreasing and not even keeping up with inflation was a much bigger red flag than anything occurring under Clinton. It was also Bush's SEC that got bullied by the large investment banks in 2004 to stop enforcing a rule that limited how much leverage the investment banks were allowed to take on. That really opened up the spigot of reckless mortgage risk taking (Trump has already rolled back a lot of the leverage limitations that were implemented through Dodd-Frank).

[pgardn]

Now you are imagining Derp pleasuring himself to your cheating wife that ran off with a bull what the fuck has this thread turned in to lol I’m out

Derp says my wife wears men’s pants
derp says my wife has sex with other men.

and then you say stop imagining... that’s rich

you bet you’re out when the perv you defend posts these things.

[pgardn]

Uh? Pedo willy bombed yugoslavia to the middle ages.

that was Serbia, there was no more Yugoslavia fckwit

and it’s pretty clear it was very effective in stopping the slaughter of Muslim Bosnia.

[hater]

Targeted. Didn’t get involved in a war. Trump same thing.

There was no war in yugoslavia????

:lmao wtf

[pgardn]

that was Serbia, there was no more Yugoslavia fckwit

and it’s pretty clear it was very effective in stopping the slaughter of Muslim Bosnia.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118371191_3449116598460567_3798783117387115881_o.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=_5yJ0UulUtwAX--LLb9&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=8d5c671f7312db9e08c7f6aebf93bd8f&oe=5F70029C

[ElNono]

There was no war in yugoslavia????

:lmao wtf

It wasn't Yugoslavia, and the US didn't drop boots on the ground at that time. Just a barrage of missiles.

[ElNono]

Milosevic had to go... Much like Soleimani had to go

[Reck]

1299387206767792128

Damn. For someone who is obssessed with TV ratings, this must sting. Going 0/4 against a corpse. :lmao

[Blake]

Lashing out won't uncuck you.

Folding again won't underp you

[ChumpDumper]

1299387206767792128

Damn. For someone who is obssessed with TV ratings, this must sting. Going 0/4 against a corpse. :lmaoTrump's low energy hurt the ratings all week.

[GB20]

1299387206767792128

Damn. For someone who is obssessed with TV ratings, this must sting. Going 0/4 against a corpse. :lmao
Damn!! You have to remember that all the games from professional sports were postponed so Donald should had had more viewers. He dropped the ball.

[Spurminator]

1299387206767792128

Damn. For someone who is obssessed with TV ratings, this must sting. Going 0/4 against a corpse. :lmao

Muh organic views on social media tho

[Will Hunting]

Can someone explain to me what “organic views” are?

[RandomGuy]

Can someone explain to me what “organic views” are?

They are grass fed with no hormones.

[Will Hunting]

They are grass fed with no hormones.
No GMOs either? Those are the best kind of views - free range views with no GMOs.

[Reck]

Where is TSA posting how old fossils watched Trump on C-span and how he had more than x6 the views Biden had?

[Ef-man]

Can someone explain to me what “organic views” are?

Duh...

"Organic views" are issued from special campaign live streams that are personally milked by a small-fingered vulgarian to appease his white frailty.

#IsBlakeStillNakedAskingForADerp #IsReImaginingBlakeNakedBadNow

[Spurminator]

Can someone explain to me what “organic views” are?

Organic views as it relates to social media or YouTube, for example, are any views that occur naturally without paid promotion.

So if someone comes to your website and watches a video, that's an organic view. You can get more views by paying to have your video served to people upon suggestion (ex: YouTube "suggested video") or as an ad unit (ex: a video served up on people's Facebook newsfeeds based on their interests.)

[TSA]

Where is TSA posting how old fossils watched Trump on C-span and how he had more than x6 the views Biden had?

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidchapman141/status/1299466100263002112

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-millions-republican-national-convention.amp?__twitter_impression=true

[weebo]

We have 180,000 Americans dead from COVID. GDP has fallen by 34%. No concerts, no theaters, no ball games. School kids can't safely go to school. Small businesses are shuttered. Trump has added $3 trillion dollars to the National Debt in just the last 12 months. Over 30 million people are unemployed and 70% of them no longer have healthcare coverage. Americans are standing in food lines to try to feed their families.The US Mail is being intentionally delayed. 172 other countries won't let Americans in., etc. Yes for more years ...Make American Great Again....Again.

[Reck]

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidchapman141/status/1299466100263002112

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-millions-republican-national-convention.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Muh online views. :cry

He got his ass beat in his own game. The end

[ducks]

Most know where Trump stands
People were trying to see about Harris and how far left biden went

[ducks]

Trump campaign rakes in $76 million during Republican National Convention
The GOP convention brought in 147.9 million views across television and online, Fox News has learned

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidchapman141/status/1299466100263002112

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-millions-republican-national-convention.amp?__twitter_impression=trueMeanwhile, the Republican National Convention brought in 147.9 million total views across television and online between Monday and the end of Thursday night's programming, according to a senior campaign official.

:lolK

[Reck]

Meanwhile, the Republican National Convention brought in 147.9 million total views across television and online between Monday and the end of Thursday night's programming, according to a senior campaign official.

:lolK

Let's give them that.

The fact they're lumping in online views to pad the stat is hilarious.

[TSA]

Muh online views. :cry

He got his ass beat in his own game. The end

Trump’s game is online and his team absolutely dominates Biden on reach on Twitter Facebook etc. I’m not surprised the forum dunce tried to discount online streaming views though.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's give them that.

The fact they're lumping in online views to pad the stat is hilarious.Easiest one to game, like the online polls Cohen admitted to stuffing for Trump in 2015.

[Reck]

Trump’s game is online and his team absolutely dominates Biden on reach on Twitter Facebook etc. I’m not surprised the forum dunce tried to discount online streaming views though.

Bernie counted them as well.

I understand why you feel like you need a win here.

[TSA]

Let's give them that.

The fact they're lumping in online views to pad the stat is hilarious.

Why is including a way millions of people view the conventions hilarious?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol thinking 25 million senior citizens are streaming the RNC on facebook.

[Reck]

Why is including a way millions of people view the conventions hilarious?

Trump touts himself the king of TV ratings, not online.

But if you're so desperate, have the win.

[GB20]

Meanwhile, the Republican National Convention brought in 147.9 million total views across television and online between Monday and the end of Thursday night's programming, according to a senior campaign official.

:lolK
Is that the same guy who said about one million people showing up at the Tulsa rally?

[Spurminator]

Trump’s game is online and his team absolutely dominates Biden on reach on Twitter Facebook etc. I’m not surprised the forum dunce tried to discount online streaming views though.

All of those global online impressions are sure to translate to votes. :tu

:lol Grasping at straws for the W.

[Spurminator]

Also a "view" as it pertains to online video could mean anything from 1 second to 2 hours. In online advertising, an impression counts if the viewer sees less than a second of your ad.

Without more detail on the online attribution, the numbers are bullshit. With Nielsen ratings on the other hand, you know it's domestic and you know there's a longer view (I believe it's 5 minutes or higher.)

Or, you can believe the Trump Administration is being honest and transparent about its numbers. :lmao

[ducks]

:lol thinking 25 million senior citizens are streaming the RNC on facebook.

Dude many seniors I help have facebook
Their kids will only upload pictures to Facebook

[Reck]

Dude many seniors I help have facebook
Their kids will only upload pictures to Facebook

You're a freak.

[ducks]

They thinks ducks is the greatest

[clambake]

They thinks ducks is the greatest

Perfect for their tombstones

[ducks]

TVLine.com
Ratings: RNC Ends on High Note, With Cable Numbers (Including a Huge Surge Among Young Adults) Added In

[ducks]

Perfect for their tombstones

All lives matter!

[Reck]

TVLine.com
Ratings: RNC Ends on High Note, With Cable Numbers (Including a Huge Surge Among Young Adults) Added In

Post the whole thing ducks.

That said, across the 13 aforementioned cable and broadcast channels, the RNC Night 4 audience fell just shy of the DNC’s own closing night (which drew 24.6 million). Similarly, Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s Night 4 nomination acceptance speech outdrew President Donald Trump’s, 23.6 million viewers to 21.6 million.

[Ef-man]

:lol thinking 25 million senior citizens are streaming the RNC on facebook.

:lmao

25 million grandkids telling grandparents, “No, your “JitterBug” flip phone wont catch facebook. “

[boutons_deux]

sleep around to get around

https://images.dailykos.com/images/848484/story_image/GettyImages-1228189847.jpg?1598410194

[Reck]

sleep around to get around

https://images.dailykos.com/images/848484/story_image/GettyImages-1228189847.jpg?1598410194
Will Hunting you said this was hot?

[Will Hunting]

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) you said this was hot?
Uh no, I said she must be able to give great head when a rich guy in his early 40s who could be slamming 25 year olds is dating her. Someone then replied to me and said she was hot.

[Blake]

Uh no, I said she must be able to give great head when a rich guy in his early 40s who could be slamming 25 year olds is dating her. Someone then replied to me and said she was hot.

Knowing what we know about cuckservatives, I wouldn't put it past the old man to be taking his turn feeding her the super Mario mushroom.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Chumpettes coming here mindlessly spreading the lies that the DNC had better numbers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1MQGzPPp9Q

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chumpettes coming here mindlessly spreading the lies that the DNC had better numbers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1MQGzPPp9Qthe TV numbers were indeed better, derp.

[Reck]

the TV numbers were indeed better, derp.

This is equal to the argument they like to use with yard signs. I saw 100 Trump 2020 signs and just 1 Biden. That means we're winning!

[Will Hunting]

This is equal to the argument they like to use with yard signs. I saw 100 Trump 2020 signs and just 1 Biden. That means we're winning!
Pretty sure that's how Trafalgar does its polls :lol

[Reck]

Pretty sure that's how Trafalgar does its polls :lol

By the way, how do you think your neighbor and the next neighbor next to them will vote? Oh for sure Trump baby.

What a weird fucking methodology. Dont know why 538 hasn't banned them from their aggregates.

[Winehole23]

Pretty sure that's how Trafalgar does its polls :lolAs food a guess as any, Trafalgar doesn't post its methodology

[Will Hunting]

By the way, how do you think your neighbor and the next neighbor next to them will vote? Oh for sure Trump baby.

What a weird fucking methodology. Dont know why 538 hasn't banned them from their aggregates.
They were right about 2016 is why.

[Reck]

They were right about 2016 is why.

So was Rassmussen.

When your polls are consistently to the right, and then a guy comes in with a fluke win, it doesn't mean your data was right. It means you lucked in.

I dont mind right leaning pollsters as long as their methodology is transparent and clear about who they sample and how.

[Trainwreck2100]

By the way, how do you think your neighbor and the next neighbor next to them will vote? Oh for sure Trump baby.

What a weird fucking methodology. Dont know why 538 hasn't banned them from their aggregates.

Using the "what would your neighbor do" is a popular question. Less likely to lie if you are talking about someone else

[Will Hunting]

So was Rassmussen.

When your polls are consistently to the right, and then a guy comes in with a fluke win, it doesn't mean your data was right. It means you lucked in.

I dont mind right leaning pollsters as long as their methodology is transparent and clear about who they sample and how.
I hope you're right, but can't write them off as lucky in 2016 until they're proven wrong in 2020.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous as shit about the polls this year being wrong again.

[Trainwreck2100]

Uh no, I said she must be able to give great head when a rich guy in his early 40s who could be slamming 25 year olds is dating her. Someone then replied to me and said she was hot.

probably not the head but the rich guy has serious parental issues

[TSA]

I hope you're right, but can't write them off as lucky in 2016 until they're proven wrong in 2020.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous as shit about the polls this year being wrong again.

The “shy Trump voter” phenomenon is a real thing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-28/new-study-suggests-polls-are-missing-shy-trump-voters

[Winehole23]

The “shy Trump voter” phenomenon is a real thing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-28/new-study-suggests-polls-are-missing-shy-trump-votersI've hit my monthly limit of free Bloomberg, can you post a link to the study or pull a quote?

[RD2191]

I hope you're right, but can't write them off as lucky in 2016 until they're proven wrong in 2020.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous as shit about the polls this year being wrong again.
I wonder what the polls would look like had Coronavirus not happened.

[TSA]

I've hit my monthly limit of free Bloomberg, can you post a link to the study or pull a quote?

A new online study finds that Republicans and independents are twice as likely as Democrats to say they would not give their true opinion in a telephone poll question about their preference for president in the 2020 election. That raises the possibility that polls understate support for President Donald Trump.

Some 11.7% of Republicans and 10.5% independents said they would not give their true opinion, vs. 5.4% of Democrats, according to the study by CloudResearch LLC, a Queens, N.Y.-based company that conducts online market research and data collection for clients. Among the reasons they gave was that “it's dangerous to express an opinion outside of the current liberal viewpoint,” according to Leib Litman, the co-chief executive officer and chief research officer.

CloudResearch conducted the survey online but inquired about surveys that are conducted by phone. It first asked participants for their political preference, then asked how they felt about divulging their preference for president in a phone poll. Later, it asked whom they actually did support for president.

Political party preference was the only characteristic that correlated consistently with reluctance to share presidential preference, Leib says. There was no correlation with age, race, education, or income. Cloud Research conducted the study two ways and got basically the same result both times, he says: In one, 1,000 respondents were evenly divided among Democrats, Republicans, and independents, and the second asked a different set of 1,000 respondents picked to precisely match the demographics of likely voters, regardless of party.

[Will Hunting]

The “shy Trump voter” phenomenon is a real thing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-28/new-study-suggests-polls-are-missing-shy-trump-voters
Everything I've seen shows that it wasn't the shy Trump voter that pollsters got wrong in 2016 as much as it was them fucking up rural voter turnout. I have yet to see whether they've corrected that this year. In 2018 they halfway corrected it but were still off in a lot of places (polls showed that the Dem senators in Missouri, Indiana and North Dakota were either favored or had a 50/50 shot at winning and then all lost by 5+%).

Not saying the shy Trump voter isn't a thing, I just don't see it as the thing that skews polls the most. If the polls are wrong this year it's probably because Trump has found a way to energize his base even more so turnout is even higher. In every poll I've seen, Trump is winning over 85% of all Republican votes (most polls have him above 90% of Republican voters), so I don't see how there could be that many Republican voters lying about who they'll vote for.

One difference to keep in mind is that there doesn't seem to be nearly as many undecided voters this year as last year. In 2016, over 10% of voters decided in the final week (closer to 15% in WI/MI/PA) and they overwhelmingly went for Trump. Wisconsin was the greatest example (he had a 2:1 advantage on final week deciders, without that he loses the state). I'd find the post if searching wasn't disable but I posted in another thread about this comparing polls from 2016 and 2020.

[Will Hunting]

I wonder what the polls would look like had Coronavirus not happened.
Hard to tell tbh. The economy was already slowing down in late 2019/early 2020 before COVID.

Trump would definitely be doing better but Biden wouldn't be hiding in the basement, he'd be out campaigning and fighting harder.

[Reck]

The “shy Trump voter” phenomenon is a real thing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-28/new-study-suggests-polls-are-missing-shy-trump-voters

What if I told you, they're not a thing.

Also assuming there isn't one for Biden as well.


The AAPOR study said evidence for a “Shy Trump" effect isn't conclusive. The authors hypothesized that if voters didn't want to tell a live interviewer that they supported Trump, you'd expect Trump to do worse in live-interview polls than in ones involving interactive voice response, which is less personal. In fact, Trump, didn't do worse in live-interview polls.

At the end of the day, if you're outside the margin of error by 3-4 points these "shy voters" won't make a difference.

In 2016 Trump was indeed inside the margin of error of the polling showing Hillary with a 2.1.

Trump has a couple of months to eat into that 7 point lead average though so we'll see.

[TSA]

What if I told you, they're not a thing.

Also assuming there isn't one for Biden as well.



At the end of the day, if you're outside the margin of error by 3-4 points these "shy voters" won't make a difference.

In 2016 Trump was indeed inside the margin of error of the polling showing Hillary with a 2.1.

Trump has a couple of months to eat into that 7 point lead average though so we'll see.

“CloudResearch's Leib says the AAPOR study doesn't change his mind. He says his company asked participants how they felt about divulging their preferences via automatic calls vs. live ones and found that AAPOR's assumption about which one Trump voters would prefer was false. “Many people are just as distrustful of automatic calls, because their response will be recorded!" he wrote in an email.”

[ChumpDumper]

Boiled down: Trump supporters love lying.

The Trump posters here prove it daily.

[TSA]

What if I told you, they're not a thing.

Also assuming there isn't one for Biden as well.



At the end of the day, if you're outside the margin of error by 3-4 points these "shy voters" won't make a difference.

In 2016 Trump was indeed inside the margin of error of the polling showing Hillary with a 2.1.

Trump has a couple of months to eat into that 7 point lead average though so we'll see.

“Typically, the AAPOR study found, "those who admit changing their minds more or less wash out, breaking about evenly between the Republican candidate and the Democratic candidate. " Not in 2016, though: People who changed their answers when called back after the election had voted for Trump by a 16-percentage-point margin.”

[Trainwreck2100]

I've hit my monthly limit of free Bloomberg, can you post a link to the study or pull a quote?

If you're on chrome hit the lock on the address bar and don't allow JavaScript on Bloomberg.com it lets you look at it works for all news sites

[Reck]

“Typically, the AAPOR study found, "those who admit changing their minds more or less wash out, breaking about evenly between the Republican candidate and the Democratic candidate. " Not in 2016, though: People who changed their answers when called back after the election had voted for Trump by a 16-percentage-point margin.”

So they're no longer "shy" voters then. They're out of the proverbial closet.

Are you saying there is even more of them? Trump hasn't improved his approval rating above 45 in three and a half years but sure he has a permanent hidden vote.

[Will Hunting]

So they're no longer "shy" voters then. They're out of the proverbial closet.

Are you saying there is even more of them? Trump hasn't improved his approval rating above 45 in three and a half years but sure he has a permanent hidden vote.
It also makes no sense that there would be more shy Trumpers when Trump is the incumbent. He's been normalized for 3.5 years now, there aren't going to be as many shy Trumpers as when he was considered the outsider candidate.

[ducks]

This is equal to the argument they like to use with yard signs. I saw 100 Trump 2020 signs and just 1 Biden. That means we're winning!

Trump beat Clinton
I have seen 2 biden signs driving on service calls
I saw 10 Trump signs on one street

[Reck]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trumps-favorability-perceptions-covid-19-response-stagnate-post/story%3fid=72705268

Oh well. Time to triple down, eh?

[Winehole23]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trumps-favorability-perceptions-covid-19-response-stagnate-post/story%3fid=72705268

Oh well. Time to triple down, eh?no dead cat bounce.

[Ef-man]

Trump beat Clinton
I have seen 2 biden signs driving on service calls
I saw 10 Trump signs on one street

If I order a pizza and ask for delivery from your company, you will see lots of signs in my neighborhood ducks.

[Spurtacular]

So was Rassmussen.

When your polls are consistently to the right, and then a guy comes in with a fluke win, it doesn't mean your data was right. It means you lucked in.

I dont mind right leaning pollsters as long as their methodology is transparent and clear about who they sample and how.

:lol Still in denial.

[TSA]

If I order a pizza and ask for delivery from your company, you will see lots of signs in my neighborhood ducks.

Bullshit. Go take a walk right now and post a video of all your neighborhood Biden signs.

[Spurtacular]

There were few Hillary signs in 16 and not a lot of Obama signs in 12. I haven't even seen a Biden sign yet, tbh. Democrat enthusiasm been way down for a long time.

[ducks]

If I order a pizza and ask for delivery from your company, you will see lots of signs in my neighborhood ducks.

Town
san francisco?
Home
Of the most poop on street!

[Spurtacular]

So they're no longer "shy" voters then. They're out of the proverbial closet.

Are you saying there is even more of them? Trump hasn't improved his approval rating above 45 in three and a half years but sure he has a permanent hidden vote.


It also makes no sense that there would be more shy Trumpers when Trump is the incumbent. He's been normalized for 3.5 years now, there aren't going to be as many shy Trumpers as when he was considered the outsider candidate.

There's going to be plenty of "shy" Trump voters for obvious reasons. They don't need to live with fear of reprisal from the rioter class.

[Winehole23]

Bullshit. Go take a walk right now and post a video of all your neighborhood Biden signs.Distinctively bitter. :tu

[ElNono]

There were few Hillary signs in 16 and not a lot of Obama signs in 12. I haven't even seen a Biden sign yet, tbh. Democrat enthusiasm been way down for a long time.

I haven't seen Biden fans yet either, tbh

[Spurtacular]

I haven't seen Biden fans yet either, tbh

Conversely, I haven't been seeing a lot of Trump signs. But a lot of people don't want to put that target on themselves.

Still, very odd to see zero Biden signs. That does say something.

[rmt]

I haven't seen Biden fans yet either, tbh

Me, either. I see less Trump signs in neighborhood - I think the person/people who stole my yard sign went around the neighborhood and took the others too. Not going to spend money on another sign - just put up the 2016 one.

I only see on the "main" road where it'd be too obvious to take.

[Spurminator]

Lot's of Biden signs around me, and more if you include the "Any Functioning Adult" signs. Have also seen a lot more than expected in the Park Cities areas which are usually reliable Republican blocs.

But signs don't vote.