BLM is a terrorist group

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/1298282395272085508?s=20

This will be my official thread for all content regarding BLM. They moved the thread from the Spurs forum down here but I'm not continuing with that thread (I'll link it eventually). Unfortunately, that means many will only consume NBA propaganda and mainstream media propaganda with regards to this group. A moronic decision by timvp and Kori Ellis or whoever moved the thread. People need to see this violent, racist, and political terror in action. The mainstream media will try to paint them as peaceful protesters. Corporate America and the NBA will applaud the movement. This thread will show you what they really are.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/AltheaMaddox79/status/1298282652492017667?s=20

This is one brave woman. You must resist the urge to bend the knee to these terrorists.

[Winehole23]

interrupting an al fresco dinner is terrorism? :lmao

[Dirks_Finale]

Truth.

I only respect the peaceful element of the group that protest without intimidation tactics like blocking traffic.

And many of them are just bored, probably still surviving off unemployment and are just looking for any reason to assemble.

The more they destroy stuff the more Trump voters they create, though. So lawless mayors like Lori Lighthead think they are helping their own party, but it will backfire on them.

[Winehole23]

of all the things that happened in the last 24 hours, Nathan89 singles this out as terrorism.







:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

interrupting an al fresco dinner is terrorism? :lmao:lol That's being assholes. Not terra.

[RandomGuy]

[rants about other peoples propaganda while posting blatant propaganda that he happens to agree with]

Do you even really pay attention to the stupid shit you type out?

I will try to help you out here, under the assumption that you care about what is true. If you don't care what is true, then just say so, and I will stop trying to help you.

Define "propaganda"

[Nathan89]

It's the beginning of a thread.

I should also mention there will be a lot content with regards to racial narratives pushed by the left and media that encourages this nonsense. It's basically a continuation of the thread from the Spurs forum with regards to content but I wanted a different title.

[spurraider21]

Does Spurtacular approve of this fear porn thread?

[Nathan89]

Truth.

I only respect the peaceful element of the group that protest without intimidation tactics like blocking traffic.

And many of them are just bored, probably still surviving off unemployment and are just looking for any reason to assemble.

The more they destroy stuff the more Trump voters they create, though. So lawless mayors like Lori Lighthead think they are helping their own party, but it will backfire on them.

There is very little "peaceful element" tbh. They are incapable of having a protest without mass violence, looting, and burning businesses down.

[Chucho]

BLM the actual organization, the nonprofit?

They're not a terrorist organization, at all. Just a typical nonprofit.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298138566787125248?s=20

Stop resisting arrest seems like a good advice tbh

[GB20]

Once again, this is happening under Trump’s administration.

[Winehole23]

Nathan89 has the bootlicker blues

[ChumpDumper]

BLM the actual organization, the nonprofit?

They're not a terrorist organization, at all. Just a typical nonprofit.Yeah, lumping anyone who yells at diners or protests or indeed riots into BLM and/or Antifa with the sheer number of people involved is just stupid and lazy.

[koriwhat]

fuck blm marxist communists.

[Dirks_Finale]

There is very little "peaceful element" tbh. They are incapable of having a protest without mass violence, looting, and burning businesses down.

True, but it's because they lack order and leadership. I'm sure plenty within do not agree with some of the B.S. they are seeing from the agitators.

[Nathan89]

Once again, this is happening under Trump’s administration.

Yeah, it started during the Obama administration. This argument means nothing. This is the result of many false narratives by the media and Democrats. And Democrats and corporations support this. There is a reason the propaganda outlets try to spin these violent riots as "peaceful protests" and it had nothing to do with Trump.

[koriwhat]

Yeah, it started during the Obama administration. This argument means nothing. This is the result of many false narratives by the media and Democrats. And Democrats and corporations support this. There is a reason the propaganda outlets try to spin these violent riots as "peaceful protests" and it had nothing to do with Trump.

:tu

[Will Hunting]

Once again, this is happening under Trump’s administration.
This is the part I still don’t get.

4 years ago the anger in Trump’s campaign made sense. He took on 15+ establishment Republicans and beat them all, then he took on the Clinton political machine. 3.5 years later this is Trump’s America and they’re still angry about how it is :lol

[Will Hunting]

Yeah, it started during the Obama administration.
And it’s gotten exponentially more violent, frequent and chaotic under Trump, notwithstanding the fact he’s had 3.5 years to fix whatever you think started under Obama. Why hasn’t he fixed it? Better yet, why has he let it get worse?

[Nathan89]

True, but it's because they lack order and leadership. I'm sure plenty within do not agree with some of the B.S. they are seeing from the agitators.

I've seen very few videos of protesters stopping violent actors but I have seen some. Ultimately the most violent actors are being shielded by the masses that continue to show up.

[Nathan89]

And it’s gotten exponentially more violent, frequent and chaotic under Trump, notwithstanding the fact he’s had 3.5 years to fix whatever you think started under Obama. Why hasn’t he fixed it? Better yet, why has he let it get worse?

False narratives will drive people insane. One person is incapable of fixing these problems if others are insistent on creating them.

[clambake]

Calling out timvp and kori lol

Zionist!!!!!!!!!

[Dirks_Finale]

I've seen very few videos of protesters stopping violent actors but I have seen some. Ultimately the most violent actors are being shielded by the masses that continue to show up.

Yeah, I have to take that back. They do have leadership...it's rich old white dudes like Soros....and pallets of bricks magically appearing where ever protests are taking place that week...

[Will Hunting]

False narratives will drive people insane. One person is incapable of fixing these problems if others are insistent or creating them.
So then why is Trump campaigning on fixing them if he can’t? The delta between what Trump says he can do vs. what he actually wants to be accountable for is wider than Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ fatass.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, it started during the Obama administration. This argument means nothing. This is the result of many false narratives by the media and Democrats. And Democrats and corporations support this. There is a reason the propaganda outlets try to spin these violent riots as "peaceful protests" and it had nothing to do with Trump.You support the violence and want it to continue for the political advantage of the politicians you support.

This fear porn keeps you from having to post your boilerplate white supremacy stuff.

[Nathan89]

Calling out timvp and kori lol

Zionist!!!!!!!!!

I've given them credit many times and I won't hesitate to call them out.

They are still far superior than those running other forums.

[spurraider21]

fuck blm marxist communists.
But you don’t know what communism is

[Spurtacular]

Does Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) approve of this fear porn thread?

Dat rent free thing.

[Nathan89]

So then why is Trump campaigning on fixing them if he can’t? The delta between what Trump says he can do vs. what he actually wants to be accountable for is wider than Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ fatass.

Probably because he has offered assistance to Dem cities that have rejected the assistance. He also isn't supporting this nonsense which is a important first step in my opinion.

[Will Hunting]

Trump’s America:

double digit unemployment
lines at the food bank are so long they’re blocking traffic
millions of people one thread hair away from eviction
widespread social unrest that prior presidents managed to control
25% of the global deaths from a pandemic with only 4% of the world’s population

Trump is the only real terrorist. In 4 years he’s turned this country into a 3rd world shithole.

[spurraider21]

Dat rent free thing.
Dat dodge

[clambake]

I've given them credit many times and I won't hesitate to call them out.

They are still far superior than those running other forums.

They are deliberately suppressing your voice and controlling your life.

[Will Hunting]

Probably because he has offered assistance to Dem cities that have rejected the assistance. He also isn't supporting this nonsense which is a important first step in my opinion.
So he’s not able to fix it then and saying he can fix it is a false campaign promise.

Thanks for playing.

[GB20]

Yeah, it started during the Obama administration. This argument means nothing. This is the result of many false narratives by the media and Democrats. And Democrats and corporations support this. There is a reason the propaganda outlets try to spin these violent riots as "peaceful protests" and it had nothing to do with Trump.
Have you seen the polls lately? Most of the People are saying that the country is going on wrong direction.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1297335692255735810?s=20

The racist BLM mob really hates seeing white people living in areas that black people used to live. You know all those movies where the black people move into a white neighborhood? They agree with the racists that treat them like shit for do so. BLM is a racist and violent movement.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286111&page=25

The above thread was the original from upstairs that I am continuing in this thread.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao “the Democrats and corporations support this!”

Yeah bud, I’m sure Trump is public enemy #1 to corporate America after he slashed their taxes to record lows and appointed a fed chairman who’d keep their stock prices inflated while working class Americans get kicked out of their homes and starve to death.

[Spurtacular]

Dat dodge

Does burning down innocent business owners' buildings and murdering people for a cause not sound like terror to you, Lite?

:lol Way to keep clutching dem pearls after I tried to let you down easy.

[Nathan89]

Have you seen the polls lately? Most of the People are saying that the country is going on wrong direction.

Have you seen the data showing that the media was pumping out 150x the negative stories for Trump compared to Biden?

Do you see the bullshit stories that the media continuously covers to push narratives while ignoring more extreme stories because it doesn't fit their narrative?

These things shape polls.

[BSfromTX]

BLM terrorists? Far right wingers will be labeled next. Careful what you wish for.

Left and right continue to beg government to take away rights and liberties for the sake of their "side".

[Nathan89]

Trump’s America:

double digit unemployment
lines at the food bank are so long they’re blocking traffic
millions of people one thread hair away from eviction
widespread social unrest that prior presidents managed to control
25% of the global deaths from a pandemic with only 4% of the world’s population

Trump is the only real terrorist. In 4 years he’s turned this country into a 3rd world shithole.

It's almost like there was a pandemic and the solution everyone insists on is to shutdown the economy. Even as the virus spread slows they insist on this solution. I thought we did all that to "bend the curve" and "not overwhelm the hospitals" but that doesn't seem to be the motive. It seems they are actively trying to hurt the economy. But let's blame Trump!

[Will Hunting]

It's almost like there was a pandemic and the solution everyone insists on is to shutdown the economy. Even as the virus spread slows they insist on this solution. I thought we did all that to "bend the curve" and "not overwhelm the hospitals" but that doesn't seem to be the motive. It seems they are actively trying to hurt the economy. But let's blame Trump!
Somehow every other industrialized country has managed to bend the curve and open back up except for Trump's America. It must be one big conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

:lol low unemployment rate = MAGA Bitch! Promises made, promises kept!
:lol high unemployment rate = :cry stop blaming Trump leave him alone it's not his fault :cry

[Nathan89]

Both the pandemic and violent leftist rioters have proven the need for the 2nd amendment. If you are looking for a positive outlook.

[GB20]

Have you seen the data showing that the media was pumping out 150x the negative stories for Trump compared to Biden?

Do you see the bullshit stories that the media continuously covers to push narratives while ignoring more extreme stories because it doesn't fit their narrative?
How about you tell your stupid president to stop tweeting stupid shit. He is doing a lot of damage to himself.
These things shape polls.

[ChumpDumper]

It's almost like there was a pandemic and the solution everyone insists on is to shutdown the economy. Even as the virus spread slows they insist on this solution.Who is insisting on shutting down the economy now?

Provide multiple links since you said "everyone."

[Will Hunting]

Both the pandemic and violent leftist rioters have proven the need for the 2nd amendment. If you are looking for a positive outlook.
The pandemic has proven the need for the 2nd amendment? Are you gonna shoot COVID-19?

[ChumpDumper]

Both the pandemic and violent leftist rioters have proven the need for the 2nd amendment. If you are looking for a positive outlook.You need to shoot the virus?

Dammit, Blake beat me to it!

[ElNono]

Trump’s America:

double digit unemployment
lines at the food bank are so long they’re blocking traffic
millions of people one thread hair away from eviction
widespread social unrest that prior presidents managed to control
25% of the global deaths from a pandemic with only 4% of the world’s population

Trump is the only real terrorist. In 4 years he’s turned this country into a 3rd world shithole.

troof nuke... plus we have a cadre of losers playing the victim card somehow...

[Will Hunting]

You need to shoot the virus?

Dammit, Blake beat me to it!
Stop copying me Blake!

[ElNono]

The pandemic has proven the need for the 2nd amendment? Are you gonna shoot COVID-19?

He gonna read the bible to it first, tbh

[Nathan89]

Somehow every other industrialized country has managed to bend the curve and open back up except for Trump's America. It must be one big conspiracy to make Trump look bad.

:lol low unemployment rate = MAGA Bitch! Promises made, promises kept!
:lol high unemployment rate = :cry stop blaming Trump leave him alone it's not his fault :cry

If they all "bent the curve" and America has less per capita deaths than some while being an obese nation(+other factors) then perhaps people should stop mentioning the death count.

Our economy also seems to be bouncing back.

This isn't a covid thread so if you want to go into detail then start a thread or discuss it in a more fitting thread.

[Trainwreck2100]

Have you seen the data showing that the media was pumping out 150x the negative stories for Trump compared to Biden?

.

What a stupid thing to bitch about, there's no such thing as fairnes because the Republicans overturned the fairness doctrine, you want it back talk to them. Also Trump's negativity is easily verifiable, Biden has been protecting himself so all you'd have is the usual Republican QMoonbattery

[Nathan89]

The pandemic has proven the need for the 2nd amendment? Are you gonna shoot COVID-19?

Yeah, that was the implication of that sentence.:rolleyes

[Dirks_Finale]

https://youtu.be/bRCwe7J_4YE

[ChumpDumper]

Have you seen the data showing that the media was pumping out 150x the negative stories for Trump compared to Biden?Have you seen what a terrible president Trump is? That leads to negative stories.

He should be a better president if he wants fewer negative stories.

[Ef-man]

If they all "bent the curve" and America has less per capita deaths than some while being an obese nation(+other factors) then perhaps people should stop mentioning the death count.

Our economy also seems to be bouncing back.

This isn't a covid thread so if you want to go into detail then start a thread or discuss it in a more fitting thread.


“If”

[Nathan89]

For some reason people want to derail the thread. Perhaps it wasn't wise to hitch your wagon to a violent and racist movement tbh

[ElNono]

For some reason people want to derail the thread. Perhaps it wasn't wise to hitch your wagon to a violent and racist movement tbh

Perhaps the thread is one giant strawman...

[ChumpDumper]

For some reason people want to derail the thread. Perhaps it wasn't wise to hitch your wagon to a violent and racist movement tbhYeah, we should've gone with Unite the Right like you.:tu

[Ef-man]

Stop copying me Blake!

Troof bombing 24/7.

Stop copying me Blake

[spurraider21]

Does burning down innocent business owners' buildings and murdering people for a cause not sound like terror to you, Lite?

:lol Way to keep clutching dem pearls after I tried to let you down easy.
So you approve of this fear porn thread?

[Ef-man]

So you approve of this fear porn thread?

Derp approves of tranny porn, 1,000%!

[GB20]

Have you seen the data showing that the media was pumping out 150x the negative stories for Trump compared to Biden?

Do you see the bullshit stories that the media continuously covers to push narratives while ignoring more extreme stories because it doesn't fit their narrative?

These things shape polls.
How about you tell your stupid president to stop tweeting stupid shit. He is doing a lot of harm to himself.

[Spurtacular]

So you approve of this fear porn thread?

:lol Lite
:lol So needy

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298303176248930304?s=20

Racism is foundational to the modern leftist ideology.

[FrostKing]

Black version of the KKK

[spurraider21]

:lol Lite
:lol So needy
:lol derp
:lol so weak

[Will Hunting]

If they all "bent the curve" and America has less per capita deaths than some while being an obese nation(+other factors) then perhaps people should stop mentioning the death count.

Our economy also seems to be bouncing back.

This isn't a covid thread so if you want to go into detail then start a thread or discuss it in a more fitting thread.

:lmao our economy "seems to be bouncing back". Says who, Don Jr.? We still have double digit unemployment and consumer spending has plummeted this month with reduced unemployment benefits.

You have me confused with someone who gives a shit about what the intended topic of this thread is :lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298302515146944513?s=20

Watch the NBAs violent activist group at work.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298303176248930304?s=20

Racism is foundational to the modern leftist ideology.

The Oregon Cares Fund (TOCF) is a fund for Black relief and resiliency to be seeded by the Coronavirus Relief Fund (CRF), allocated by the Emergency Board of the Oregon Legislature, in response to the demonstrated health and economic disparities experienced by the Black community, exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Elected officials bad now.

[Spurtacular]

Dammit, Blake beat me to it!

What are you even talking about, Derp?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298138566787125248?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

What are you even talking about, Derp?:rollin you're still trying so hard.

[Ef-man]

What are you even talking about, Derp?

Called it!

Derp is clueless!

Ignorance, help of a drug!

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:rollin you're still trying so hard.

Yea, I wouldn't want to explain such nonsense either

[ChumpDumper]

Yea, I wouldn't want to explain such nonsense eitherBlake posted the same thing I did right before me.

It's in Blake's post right above mine, derp.

:lmao you can't blame Blake for making you stupid.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1298264945323171844?s=20

The media carries water for violent leftist rioters. Blame Trump!

[clambake]

Derp hates his name lol

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298302515146944513?s=20

Watch the NBAs violent activist group at work.
the guy doesnt deserve to have his business destroyed. its also not very intelligent to run around spraying people with a fire extinguisher. reminds me of the dude running around with a machete

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1298264945323171844?s=20

The media carries water for violent leftist rioters. Blame Trump!Tim Pool wants a civil war.

Do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Derp hates his name lolHe sure does, Blake!:tu

[Spurtacular]

Blake posted the same thing I did right before me.

It's in Blake's post right above mine, derp.

:lmao you can't blame Blake for making you stupid.

No posts from the Blake screen name in this thread.

But if you're officially calling another screen name, Blake's alt go ahead and say.

[RandomGuy]

It's the beginning of a thread.

I should also mention there will be a lot content with regards to racial narratives pushed by the left and media that encourages this nonsense. It's basically a continuation of the thread from the Spurs forum with regards to content but I wanted a different title.

Not really a definition of "propaganda"

You rail against it, but don't seem to understand what it actually *is*.

What is your working definition?

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298302515146944513?s=20

Watch the NBAs violent activist group at work.

:cry It's not terrorism :cry
:cry Calling this terrorism is fear mongering :cry
:lmao Stupid fucking chump wannabe spurraider21 :lmao

[Ef-man]

He sure does, Blake!:tu

But, but, but Derp Lives Matter, says no one.

Great post Blake:tu

[RandomGuy]

I've seen very few videos of protesters stopping violent actors but I have seen some. Ultimately the most violent actors are being shielded by the masses that continue to show up.

Let me ask you this:

Do you understand what an error of composition is for any given sample?

[Spurtacular]

Blake posted the same thing I did right before me.

It's in Blake's post right above mine, derp.

:lmao you can't blame Blake for making you stupid.

Name blake's alt or you're just lashing out.

[ChumpDumper]

No posts from the Blake screen name in this thread.:rollin derp

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298302515146944513?s=20

Watch the NBAs violent activist group at work.
This is more disturbing to the average middle class American than some disobedient rapist being shot by Police

[spurraider21]

:cry It's not terrorism :cry
:cry Calling this terrorism is fear mongering :cry
:lmao Stupid fucking chump wannabe spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) :lmao
180k dead americans is fear porn

this isnt

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Name blake's alt or you're just lashing out.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ef-man]

Name blake's alt or you're just lashing out.

Say my name derp, say it, say it!

Who’s your daddy derp, say it, say it!

:lmao

[Ef-man]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Jinx

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/votedegrammont/status/1298273417464918016?s=20

I know nothing about this candidate but these are the things we should be seeing. Stop pussyfooting around with what you say about BLM. Yes, they have a good brand name. That should not silent much needed criticism about this violent and racist movement.

[Will Hunting]

There was once a young Derp who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was rather lonely for him all day, so he thought upon a plan by which he could get a little company and some excitement. He rushed down towards the village calling out “Blake, Blake,” and the villagers came out to meet him, and some of them stopped with him for a considerable time. This pleased the young Derp so much that a few days afterwards he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. But shortly after this a Blake actually did come out from the forest, and began to worry the sheep, and the boy of course cried out “Blake, Blake,” still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the young Derp was again deceiving them, and nobody stirred to come to his help. So the Blake made a good meal off the young Derp's flock, and when the young Derp complained, the wise man of the village said:


“A lying Derp will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth.”

[RandomGuy]

Name blake's alt or you're just lashing out.

:lol

Stands up:

I am Blake's alt.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-13-2015/zItnnv.gif

[ElNono]

LeBron James speaks out against police brutality: ‘We are scared as Black people’

ORLANDO, Fla. — Lakers star LeBron James saw the video of Kenosha, Wis., police shooting Jacob Blake in the back for the first time on Monday. It made him feel angry, fearful and hurt.

James as well as teammates Kyle Kuzma and Anthony Davis spoke passionately about the shooting — and the relationship between Black people in America and police — following the Lakers’ Game 4 victory over Portland.

LeBron James:

“Why does it always have to get to a point where we see the guns firing and his family is there, the kids are there,” James said. “It’s in broad daylight. And who knows, I mean, if that video is not being taken by that person across the street, do we even know [what happened]? There’s talks that the cops didn’t even have any body cams on, that’s a possibility. It’s just, it’s just — quite frankly, it’s just [expletive] up in our community. And I know people get tired of hearing me say it, but we are scared as Black people in America. Black men, Black women, Black kids, we are terrified. Because you don’t know.

“You have no idea. You have no idea how that cop that day left the house. You don’t know if he woke up on this side of the bed, you don’t know if he woke up on the wrong side of the bed, you don’t know if he had an argument at home with his significant other, you don’t know if one of his kids said something to him and he left the house steaming. Or maybe he just left the house saying that today is going to be the end for one of these Black people. That’s what it feels like. That’s what it feels like. It just hurts. It hurts. And it’s through the grace of God that he’s still living. Like seven shots close range and he’s still alive? That’s through the grace of God right there and my prayers goes out to that family and that community. But I got nothing nice to say about those cops at all. At all."

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2020-08-25/lebron-james-lakers-speak-jacob-blake-shooting-police-brutality

Bron

[Will Hunting]

God dammit, I didn't take the time to copy paste this for it to be at the bottom of the page:

There was once a young Derp who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was rather lonely for him all day, so he thought upon a plan by which he could get a little company and some excitement. He rushed down towards the village calling out “Blake, Blake,” and the villagers came out to meet him, and some of them stopped with him for a considerable time. This pleased the young Derp so much that a few days afterwards he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. But shortly after this a Blake actually did come out from the forest, and began to worry the sheep, and the boy of course cried out “Blake, Blake,” still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the young Derp was again deceiving them, and nobody stirred to come to his help. So the Blake made a good meal off the young Derp's flock, and when the young Derp complained, the wise man of the village said:


“A lying Derp will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth.”

[Spurtacular]

:lol

Stands up:

I am Blake's alt.

Well, you are a certified cuckold like him. :lmao

But no.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/votedegrammont/status/1298273417464918016?s=20

I know nothing about this candidate but these are the things we should be seeing. Stop pussyfooting around with what you say about BLM. Yes, they have a good brand name. That should not silent much needed criticism about this violent and racist movement.Yeah, you could sell your indignation better had you criticized other violent, racist movements in the past.

[Nathan89]

This is more disturbing to the average middle class American than some disobedient rapist being shot by Police

Many won't know he was resisting arrest or about his history of violence.

[Spurtacular]

180k dead americans is fear porn

this isnt

:lmao

Not sure I can even give you the benefit of the doubt on not being an NPC at this point, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Not sure I can even give you the benefit of the doubt on not being an NPC at this point, tbh.:lol derp's buzzwords

[Nathan89]

Yeah, you could sell your indignation better had you criticized other violent, racist movements in the past.

Sorry, I've seen nothing comparable to this in my life. On top the scale there is also mass support by politicians, corporations, and citizens. Nothing compares to this.

[Will Hunting]

Many won't know he was resisting arrest or about his history of violence.
His history of violence is irrelevant. The cops had no knowledge of it (don't bother telling me they did unless you have evidence) so they would have handled it the same way regardless.

Him resisting arrest might be relevant except the video you posted is blurry as fuck, I can't see anything. The one video I saw that was clear looked like a cop using a gun when he could have easily used a taser.

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry, I've seen nothing comparable to this in my life. On top the scale there is also mass support by politicians, corporations, and citizens. Nothing compares to this.:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lol buzzwords

Don't pretend you have autonomy, derp.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298138566787125248?s=20
irrelevant

[ChumpDumper]

Don't pretend you have autonomy, derp.What makes you a "player character," derp?

[Spurtacular]

What makes you a "player character," derp?

If you have to ask, you can be assured you aren't one.

[Nathan89]

irrelevant

Yeah, resisting arrest and then going to your car for unknown reasons is irrelevant.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, resisting arrest and then going to your car for unknown reasons is irrelevant.
the going to his car was already known. all the stuff that happened leading up to it, and his priors... are completely irrelevant

[Ef-man]

:lol

Stands up:

I am Blake's alt.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-13-2015/zItnnv.gif

I am Blake’s alt!

[Nathan89]

Both George Floyd and this guy appear to have resisted. At the very least resisting seems to be a great way to find the margin of error tbh.

[Ef-man]

the going to his car was already known. all the stuff that happened leading up to it, and his priors... are completely irrelevant

Shooting people for misdemeanor.

Must be derp’s relative.

Recognize my authority or i will shoot.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

If you have to ask, you can be assured you aren't one.derp folds

Does it mean you actively fold every time you're asked a simple question? Is that what you mean by "playing"?

:lol derp

[spurraider21]

Shooting people for misdemeanor.

Must be derp’s relative.

Recognize my authority or i will shoot.

:lmao
deadly game of simon says

[Nathan89]

the going to his car was already known. all the stuff that happened leading up to it, and his priors... are completely irrelevant

The context of a violent altercation increases the odds of negative intent behind going to your car. It's relevant.

[FrostKing]

His history of violence is irrelevant. The cops had no knowledge of it (don't bother telling me they did unless you have evidence) so they would have handled it the same way regardless.

Him resisting arrest might be relevant except the video you posted is blurry as fuck, I can't see anything. The one video I saw that was clear looked like a cop using a gun when he could have easily used a taser.
They knew he had outstanding warrant.

[ChumpDumper]

The context of a violent altercation increases the odds of negative intent behind going to your car. It's relevant.Yeah, like....driving away....

[TSA]

Truth.

I only respect the peaceful element of the group that protest without intimidation tactics like blocking traffic.

And many of them are just bored, probably still surviving off unemployment and are just looking for any reason to assemble.

The more they destroy stuff the more Trump voters they create, though. So lawless mayors like Lori Lighthead think they are helping their own party, but it will backfire on them.

Truth.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808

[FrostKing]

.

[ChumpDumper]

Truth.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808If Trump doesn't want to stop violence started under his watch in Wisconsin....

[spurraider21]

The context of a violent altercation increases the odds of negative intent behind going to your car. It's relevant.
they just stood there as he walked into his car. if they were so worried about what he was going to do in his car, why didnt they tase him? why didnt they tackle him? just stood there and waited and then decided time to shoot

[RandomGuy]

There was once a young Derp who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was rather lonely for him all day, so he thought upon a plan by which he could get a little company and some excitement. He rushed down towards the village calling out “Blake, Blake,” and the villagers came out to meet him, and some of them stopped with him for a considerable time. This pleased the young Derp so much that a few days afterwards he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. But shortly after this a Blake actually did come out from the forest, and began to worry the sheep, and the boy of course cried out “Blake, Blake,” still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the young Derp was again deceiving them, and nobody stirred to come to his help. So the Blake made a good meal off the young Derp's flock, and when the young Derp complained, the wise man of the village said:


“A lying Derp will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth.”

There once was a Derp from San Antonio,
who saw guys named Blake here and there-nio
cuck cuck cuck! he said,
sadly all in his head,
......?

Stuck on the last line. :/

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808
Devastating angle for Democrats. Their solution is decriminalizing.

Backed themselves into this check-mate by being blinded by the black vote. In the process they abandoned every other demographic. One hell of a party blunder.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you think constantly retweeting Uncle Chans is proof you aren’t racist?Weird that he keeps posting tweets from a guy who has planned and participated in many violent actions.

[Nathan89]

Do you think constantly retweeting Uncle Chans is proof you aren’t racist?

Calling people "uncle Chans" while calling me a racist is a a nice addition to the thread.

[Nathan89]

Truth.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808

BLM is the result of many narratives that have been pushed for a long time by the left. Shit has to hit the fan before people can recognize a failed ideology. Fortunately, the media doing their best to shield reality from the masses. And their best shield is framing violent riots as "peaceful protests".

[TSA]

Devastating angle for Democrats. Their solution is decriminalizing.

Backed themselves into this check-mate by being blinded by the black vote. In the process they abandoned every other demographic. One hell of a party blunder.

They are more concerned about Qanon then the rioting :lol

https://twitter.com/RepRiggleman/status/1298274698963243008

[Nathan89]

I’m Asian, I’ll call out any subservient brainwashed Uncle Chan I want, you bitch ass white boy.

Yes, you are a sheep dog trying to terrify dissenters to get back in the group while discouraging those in the group from leaving. Racist tactics are an effective tool.

[ChumpDumper]

They are more concerned about Qanon then the rioting :lol

https://twitter.com/RepRiggleman/status/1298274698963243008Remember when you posted a picture of what you said was QAnon chillin' outside Air Force One and it was just a United passenger plane?

[Spurminator]

Nathan must've woken up again with that crippling realization that his life sucks, not sure what else could explain today's epic meltdown.

[Spurminator]

They are more concerned about Qanon then the rioting :lol

https://twitter.com/RepRiggleman/status/1298274698963243008

lol Dems are focused on this thing that I obsessively believed in for four years.

[Chris]

I’m Asian, I’ll call out any subservient brainwashed Uncle Chan I want, you bitch ass white boy.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1298321044344692737?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

lol Dems are focused on this thing that I obsessively believed in for four years.And Riggleman is a Republican.:lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1298321044344692737?s=19How many people in Kenosha were murdered in the violence, Qhris?

[Spurminator]

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

If you're going to rip off schtick you should at least learn when to use it.

[ChumpDumper]

If you're going to rip off schtick you should at least learn when to use it.Qhris is sincerely sorry being Asian is happening to someone.

[Chris]

If you're going to rip off schtick you should at least learn when to use it.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

(not really, you're a faggot lol)

[ChumpDumper]

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

(not really, you're a faggot lol)^this is a troll post

[RandomGuy]

I’m Asian, I’ll call out any subservient brainwashed Uncle Chan I want, you bitch ass white boy.

:rollin

[Spurminator]

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

(not really, you're a faggot lol)

And now we've entered the "12 year olds on XBOX Live" genre of insults.

You peaked in 5th Grade, didn't you? Like, when you relive your best years, it usually involves Recess?

You know it's true. Sad.

[RandomGuy]

Nathan must've woken up again with that crippling realization that his life sucks, not sure what else could explain today's epic meltdown.

Right wing propaganda has been working overtime to gin up racists about BLM. He is worked up because he has been told to be by the people trying to distract from Trumps corruption and bungling.

[RandomGuy]

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

(not really, you're a faggot lol)

Hail Satan.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HTqEMifYxdo/V48G-h35T3I/AAAAAAAABg8/8AouTiEFnzgdSJaGNrrRO24Mv0IdAXQ6ACLcB/s1600/pentagram.jpg

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1298344285079838720?s=20

Different angle from earlier.

I remember when I was national news for like 2 weeks when a maga hat wearing high school kid smirked at some asshole beating his drum in his face. If this mob isn't all over your preferred news network then you are watching narrative news not actual news.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1298344285079838720?s=20

Different angle from earlier.

I remember when I was national news for like 2 weeks when a maga hat wearing high school kid smirked at some asshole beating his drum in his face. If this mob isn't all over your preferred news network then you are watching narrative news not actual news.:lol that drum broke you, Berniebro.

[Nathan89]

Shutting down the economy just to have leftist mobs scream in your face during a pandemic doesn't seem very effective tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Shutting down the economy just to have leftist mobs scream in your face during a pandemic doesn't seem very effective tbhHave your cops stop murdering blacks on video. Let's see what happens.:tu

[Spurminator]

We need to elect Donald Trump so this kind of stuff doesn't happen.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298255257974312961?s=20

A toxic movement is currently destroying our country and it's being supported by corporations, politicians, and many citizens.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298289845555605505?s=20

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298255257974312961?s=20

A toxic movement is currently destroying our country and it's being supported by corporations, politicians, and many citizens.

It's not destroying the country and it's not supported by corporations, politicians and "many citizens."

You're just a fear fetishist. If you ever had a girlfriend you'd make her role-play as a violent black activist.

[Nathan89]

Leftist politicians are silent and position these people as "peaceful".

Leftist media outlets position these people as "peaceful protesters".

Trump offered help to Dem cities and has been rejected.

Yes, Trump is by far the better choice.

[ChumpDumper]

Leftist politicians are silent and position these people as "peaceful".

Leftist media outlets position these people as "peaceful protesters".

Trump offered help to Dem cities and has been rejected.

Yes, Trump is by far the better choice.Because you're afraid of black people.

We get it.

[Spurminator]

Fear fetishists like Nathan love to post video of people distraught over vandalism and insured property loss, but you're probably not going to see them post any video of a mother who lost her child to police violence.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1296609168233701376?s=20

[Spurminator]

Leftist politicians are silent and position these people as "peaceful".

No they don't. Straw man.


Leftist media outlets position these people as "peaceful protesters".

No they don't. Straw man.


Trump offered help to Dem cities and has been rejected.

No he didn't. Absolute bullshit.


Yes, Trump is by far the better choice.

Obama shut this shit down with one speech in Dallas. Donald Trump is incapable of calming the nation. But you're secretly happy about this, because you love this shit, don't you, you fucking sociopath?

[Splits]

1298363193845321730

TERROR!

[GB20]

We need to elect Donald Trump so this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
:lmao

[Dirks_Finale]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1296609168233701376?s=20

Saw this dude on Fox last week or so. He looked terrified to say anything. Worst interview ever.

Probably would take a knee to the BLM pagan deity if told to.

[GB20]

1298363193845321730

TERROR!
We need Biden as soon as possible to start healing this country. With Trump in charge America is on fire and going on the wrong direction.

[Nathan89]

PolitiFact Refuses To Rate Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris For Saying Michael Brown Was ‘Murdered’

Even though a grand jury, multiple (predominantly black) eyewitnesses, and a federal investigation determined that police officer Darren Wilson acted lawfully when using lethal force against teenager Michael Brown during a physical altercation, the allegedly unbiased PolitiFact refused to give a Truth-o-Meter rating of “Mostly False” or “Pants on Fire” to Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) for claiming the teen was “murdered.”

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The only way to heal the country is to elect race baiting politicians that caused the problems.

[ChumpDumper]

PolitiFact Refuses To Rate Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris For Saying Michael Brown Was ‘Murdered’

Even though a grand jury, multiple (predominantly black) eyewitnesses, and a federal investigation determined that police officer Darren Wilson acted lawfully when using lethal force against teenager Michael Brown during a physical altercation, the allegedly unbiased PolitiFact refused to give a Truth-o-Meter rating of “Mostly False” or “Pants on Fire” to Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) for claiming the teen was “murdered.”

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The only way to heal the country is to elect race baiting politicians that caused the problems.Year old Daily WAP articles will heal the country.

[boutons_deux]

Chaos in Idaho as anti-masker Ammon Bundy and his followers storm state’s House of Representatives

The report explained that the far-right had taken issue with any restrictions aimed at stopping the virus in the state.

Rather than shut down the fourth floor, Speaker Bedke allowed the protesters to crowd into the room without doing any form of social distancing.

It contrasts with the 2014 protests for LGBTQ rights where the protesters were arrested for “obstructing the hallways.”

In this violent protest, no one was arrested.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/chaos-in-idaho-as-anti-masker-ammon-bundy-and-his-followers-storm-states-house-of-representatives/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

white male (straight, of course) privilege

LGBTQ were blocked

had Bundy and his gang been black, they would have been shot

[Nathan89]

Year old Daily WAP articles will heal the country.

Calling out the Dem VP as a race baiter that pushes the narratives that put us in our current predicament seems worthwhile to me tbh

[Nathan89]

The left always says "if this were a black person they'd be shot" and that's just a lie. I've seen that nonsense about yelling the face of police of course it follows with pictures of black people doing the same things. I've seen that line about black people carrying guns. Of course you can find black panther groups that carry guns. Stop believing these liars.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

The race baiting VP that would very likely become President is what we need.

The left from top to bottom pushes fear mongering racial narratives in pursuit of their political agenda. The result of that is racial division and BLM. Anyone saying left is going to "unite the country" or solve the problems they cause is either lying or foolish.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

The race baiting VP that would very likely become President is what we need.

The left from top to bottom pushes fear mongering racial narratives in pursuit of their political agenda. The result of that is racial division and BLM. Anyone saying left is going to "unite the country" or solve the problems they cause is either lying or foolish.
"the left isn't going to unite us"

"also i want a race/civil war"

[ElNono]

Truth.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808

I dunno about 'truth', but certainly Rs are hoping for it.

[Joseph Kony]

glad they kicked your retarded ass out of the Spurs forum. now you can parrot all you want and get shit on in the proper forum cuck boy :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Calling out the Dem VP as a race baiter that pushes the narratives that put us in our current predicament seems worthwhile to me tbhPosting race baiting Daily WAP articles about a difference of opinion will not heal the country.

You are a quivering ball of grievance and there is nothing positive about you.

[ChumpDumper]

The left always says "if this were a black person they'd be shot" and that's just a lie. I've seen that nonsense about yelling the face of police of course it follows with pictures of black people doing the same things. I've seen that line about black people carrying guns. Of course you can find black panther groups that carry guns. Stop believing these liars.

Give us a link to the stormfront threads where you saw this.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

The race baiting VP that would very likely become President is what we need.

The left from top to bottom pushes fear mongering racial narratives in pursuit of their political agenda. The result of that is racial division and BLM. Anyone saying left is going to "unite the country" or solve the problems they cause is either lying or foolish.

on fire today :tu

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1298367625194422272

:cry so peaceful :cry

[ElNono]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1298367625194422272

:cry so peaceful :cry

Hopefully we don't get to find out later on this was done by your run of the mill white supremacist terrorists...

[ChumpDumper]

There's only one door?

[cd021]

I dunno about 'truth', but certainly Rs are hoping for it.
They definitely are. but it hasn't really translated to the polls yet with 70 days to go. Biden is actually increasing his lead in swing states.

[Dirks_Finale]

They definitely are. but it hasn't really translated to the polls yet with 70 days to go. Biden is actually increasing his lead in swing states.

Do you recall Killary's lead in Wisconsin the week leading up to election day?

Wouldn't put so much stock into the polls.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you recall Killary's lead in Wisconsin the week leading up to election day? Not precisely.

What was her lead?

[Ef-man]

There's only one door?

Derp is in business of constructing police buildings?

Who knew?

[ElNono]

Do you recall Killary's lead in Wisconsin the week leading up to election day?

Wouldn't put so much stock into the polls.

She had a 4 point lead head-to-head, within the margin of error. 6 point lead if you take into account the other two candidates as well.

Not sure why we shouldn't put much stock into the polls, tbh. Wisconsin was also fairly challenging for the Dems in 2012, IIRC.

[Dirks_Finale]

Not precisely.

What was her lead?

Like 5 point avg, but some polls had her with a 10 point lead just as we are seeing with Joe right now.

[Ef-man]

She had a 4 point lead head-to-head, within the margin of error. 6 point lead if you take into account the other two candidates as well.

Not sure why we shouldn't put much stock into the polls, tbh. Wisconsin was also fairly challenging for the Dems in 2012, IIRC.

Dick_Finder still fixated with Hillary using the whatabout shtick and triggered as usual.

Let him come up with research NoNo on whatever cr*p coming out of his pie hole. Lazy-ass Dick_Finder.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Like 5 point avg, but some polls had her with a 10 point lead just as we are seeing with Joe right now.
Blake's post below is a lot more specific tbh:

She had a 4 point lead head-to-head, within the margin of error. 6 point lead if you take into account the other two candidates as well.

Not sure why we shouldn't put much stock into the polls, tbh. Wisconsin was also fairly challenging for the Dems in 2012, IIRC.

[Dirks_Finale]

It was like 4.9 if you look it up. I rounded off.

How has Wisconsin typically gone prior to Trump in the POTUS category?


Blake's post below is a lot more specific tbh:

[Dirks_Finale]

Dick_Finder still fixated with Hillary using the whatabout shtick and triggered as usual.

Let him come up with research NoNo on whatever cr*p coming out of his pie hole. Lazy-ass Dick_Finder.

:lol

Still starving for attention. Pathetic :lol

[Will Hunting]

Do you recall Killary's lead in Wisconsin the week leading up to election day?

Wouldn't put so much stock into the polls.
(Using FiveThirtyEight for this) her lead in WI shrank from 8 points to 5 points from Oct. 21 to Election Day. The polls were definitely off, but they were pretty accurate in terms of who had the momentum going into Election Day. Also worth noting that Shillary’s polling was still below 50% on Election Day (an Ipsos poll taken the week before the election had her winning 46% to 40%, which a large amount of undecideds). She was polling ahead by a plurality but not a majority, and the exit polling in 2016 showed that people who decided the 1-2 weeks before the election were lopsided in favor of Trump. That’s where she lost the election.

The most recent Wisconsin polls for Biden have him near or above 50%, they don’t show that he still needs to win over undecided voters the way Hillary did (and I don’t see any scenario where he does as badly with last minute undecided voters as she did). Compare that to the late August 2016 polling in Wisconsin. The highest rated pollsters had both candidates in the high 30s / low 40s, with 20% still undecided.

The unanswered question is whether pollsters have corrected their 2016 failure to account for Trumpsized rural voter turnout. In 2018 they corrected it to some extent but were still off in states like Florida and Ohio that have abnormal rural white voter enthusiasm for Trump. If they haven’t corrected their polling methods then I agree the polls for the key states are going to be off. If they have corrected their methods then the polls are a pretty good indicator imo.

[Dirks_Finale]

Real clear politics has it even higher than my initial source:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html

[Dirks_Finale]

How confident are you in the polling this time around?


(Using FiveThirtyEight for this) her lead in WI shrank from 8 points to 5 points from Oct. 21 to Election Day. The polls were definitely off, but they were pretty accurate in terms of who had the momentum going into Election Day. Also worth noting that Shillary’s polling was still below 50% on Election Day (an Ipsos poll taken the week before the election had her winning 46% to 40%, which a large amount of undecideds). She was polling ahead by a plurality but not a majority, and the exit polling in 2016 showed that people who decided the 1-2 weeks before the election were lopsided in favor of Trump. That’s where she lost the election.

The most recent Wisconsin polls for Biden have him near or above 50%, they don’t show that he still needs to win over undecided voters the way Hillary did (and I don’t see any scenario where he does as badly with last minute undecided voters as she did). Compare that to the late August 2016 polling in Wisconsin. The highest rated pollsters had both candidates in the high 30s / low 40s, with 20% still undecided.

The unanswered question is whether pollsters have corrected their 2016 failure to account for Trumpsized rural voter turnout. In 2018 they corrected it to some extent but were still off in states like Florida and Ohio that have abnormal rural white voter enthusiasm for Trump. If they haven’t corrected their polling methods then I agree the polls for the key states are going to be off. If they have corrected their methods then the polls are a pretty good indicator imo.

[ChumpDumper]

It was like 4.9 if you look it up. I rounded off.

How has Wisconsin typically gone prior to Trump in the POTUS category?I don't know.

[Will Hunting]

How confident are you in the polling this time around?
I think the polls are accurate, but I also think it's way too early and things can change (which is why 538 is going Trump a 27% chance even though the polls make it seem like he's going to lose in a landslide).

Biden didn't get much of a convention bump, but voter enthusiasm/approval rating increased for those who were already voting for him, which is important in the sense he isn't relying as much on "lesser of two evils" voters. I want to see what the polling impact is after Trump's RNC. If the RNC doesn't move the polls much either, I interpret that to mean the polls we see are generally correct and there are a lot less undecided voters than there were 4 years ago.

Btw, here is more detail as to what I'm talking about:

2016 Wisconsin polling in mid to late August:
https://i.ibb.co/ZTxQQYk/2016-WI.png
Outside of one poll in the above sample that was clearly wrong, Hillary was never above 43%, and she ultimately got 46% of the WI vote. She might have been leading Trump, but there were still a lot of undecided voters who were going to ultimately swing the race. Her campaign (which we know wrote the book on incompetency) somehow saw polling data where she was winning by a weak plurality and interpreted it to mean she had the state locked up.

Most up to date 2020 Wisconsin polling:
https://i.ibb.co/n6m6tWj/20200-WI.png
This shows (assuming it's correct) that Biden is already in the high 40s/low 50s, and that people who decide between now and election day might not matter at all. The polls show him in much better shape now than Hillary was in 4 years ago in Wisconsin.

[Dirks_Finale]

I think the polls are accurate, but I also think it's way too early and things can change (which is why 538 is going Trump a 27% chance even though the polls make it seem like he's going to lose in a landslide).

Biden didn't get much of a convention bump, but voter enthusiasm/approval rating increased for those who were already voting for him, which is important in the sense he isn't relying as much on "lesser of two evils" voters. I want to see what the polling impact is after Trump's RNC. If the RNC doesn't move the polls much either, I interpret that to mean the polls we see are generally correct and there are a lot less undecided voters than there were 4 years ago.

Btw, here is more detail as to what I'm talking about:

2016 Wisconsin polling in mid to late August:
https://i.ibb.co/ZTxQQYk/2016-WI.png
Outside of one poll in the above sample that was clearly wrong, Hillary was never above 43%, and she ultimately got 46% of the WI vote. She might have been leading Trump, but there were still a lot of undecided voters who were going to ultimately swing the race. Her campaign (which we know wrote the book on incompetency) somehow saw polling data where she was winning by a weak plurality and interpreted it to mean she had the state locked up.

Most up to date 2020 Wisconsin polling:
https://i.ibb.co/n6m6tWj/20200-WI.png
This shows (assuming it's correct) that Biden is already in the high 40s/low 50s, and that people who decide between now and election day might not matter at all. The polls show him in much better shape now than Hillary was in 4 years ago in Wisconsin.

Thanks. I've seen some polling this month that indicates many people who are voting Biden are doing so not because they support him, but because they oppose Trump. That's a similar situation to 2016 of hold nose and cast ballot, just not as extreme as 2016.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/perceptions-of-trump-and-biden/

So yeah, a lot can happen in 70 days. Personally, I think Trump will carry Florida and may narrowly lose Wisconsin. Biden's campaign, I'm sure, won't completely neglect it like Hillary did.

[ElNono]

It was like 4.9 if you look it up. I rounded off.

How has Wisconsin typically gone prior to Trump in the POTUS category?

It was fairly contested in 2012 also:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html

[Dirks_Finale]

It was fairly contested in 2012 also:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html

The answer is that prior to Trump, it's been blue since the Gipper in 1984.

[ElNono]

The answer is that prior to Trump, it's been blue since the Gipper in 1984.

During 2012 it wasn't a sure thing either. Polling was within the margin of error then too. Eventually Obama won by 200,000 votes, but that's a far cry from the 400,000+ difference he obtained in 2008.

[DarrinS]

Do our damn hand gesture!

1298344285079838720

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin thinks that's terrorism too.

[Winehole23]

Do our damn hand gesture!

1298344285079838720Peer pressure is fascism, y'all

[Will Hunting]

Thanks. I've seen some polling this month that indicates many people who are voting Biden are doing so not because they support him, but because they oppose Trump. That's a similar situation to 2016 of hold nose and cast ballot, just not as extreme as 2016.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/perceptions-of-trump-and-biden/

So yeah, a lot can happen in 70 days. Personally, I think Trump will carry Florida and may narrowly lose Wisconsin. Biden's campaign, I'm sure, won't completely neglect it like Hillary did.
Well yeah Biden's approval is roughly even, Hillary's likability rating was -20%. It's a lot easier to get a "hold nose and cast ballot" vote from someone who has a neutral opinion of you than from someone who hates you :lol. It's also easier to ran an "I might suck but at least I'm not him!" campaign against an incumbent with low approval ratings as oppose to an outsider with no political track record.

IMO Florida comes down to 1-2% like it always does. There are so many externalities that affect its results (i.e., how many ex-felons are now voting after their ballot initiative, how much are Broward County election officials going to fuck stuff up, etc.) some will inevitably break for each side.

[Chris]

Peer pressure is fascism, y'all

They don't look like peers.

Looks like an aggressive mob.

[ChumpDumper]

They don't look like peers.

Looks like an aggressive mob.Is it terrorism?

[Will Hunting]

The answer is that prior to Trump, it's been blue since the Gipper in 1984.
That's not really true. In 2004 and 2000 it was decided by 10k votes or less. Could have easily gone to Bush both times - it was a closer race in those elections than it was in 2016. Kerry won it by 0.38%, and Gore won it by 0.22%. I'd call it a slightly left leaning purple state. The Cook Partisan Index ranks it as EVEN.

A lot of people don't remember that Obama, while a great campaigner in general, was an especially great campaigner in the midwest. He won Iowa by 5+% each time despite it being a state Bush barely win in 2004 and Gore barely won in 2000, each by less than 1%. He won over 50% of the vote in Ohio both times - the last Democrat to do that before him was LBJ (Clinton won by plurality each time). Even won Indiana in 2008.

Obama made a lot of people (some of which clearly part of Clinton's campaign) forget what the political climate in Wisconsin is when it's not an extremely talented candidate on the ticket and how difficult it is to campaign in those states. Obama visited every county in Iowa in both elections; they're places where you need literal boots on the ground talking to voters.

[Chris]

Is it terrorism?

I'm not doing a semantics rodeo with you.

Find someone else to play your game churl.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not doing a semantics rodeo with you.

Find someone else to play your game churl.So it's not terrorism.:tu

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298413074999894018?s=19

Now we have no murder weapon and no motive. What are they rioting for again?

[Chris]

So it's not terrorism.:tu

Whatever helps you sleep at night :tu

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298413074999894018?s=19

Now we have no murder weapon and no motive. What are they rioting for again?

Disagreed

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298413074999894018?s=19

Now we have no murder weapon and no motive. What are they rioting for again?but his and other medical examiner’s findings showed he died of a combination of factors.

Sad trombone.

[Chris]

https://i.ibb.co/MgJWhs7/IMG-20200825-194859.png

[Chris]

It shows us solidarity or else it gets the hose again

[Dirks_Finale]

That's not really true. In 2004 and 2000 it was decided by 10k votes or less. Could have easily gone to Bush both times - it was a closer race in those elections than it was in 2016. Kerry won it by 0.38%, and Gore won it by 0.22%. I'd call it a slightly left leaning purple state. The Cook Partisan Index ranks it as EVEN.

A lot of people don't remember that Obama, while a great campaigner in general, was an especially great campaigner in the midwest. He won Iowa by 5+% each time despite it being a state Bush barely win in 2004 and Gore barely won in 2000, each by less than 1%. He won over 50% of the vote in Ohio both times - the last Democrat to do that before him was LBJ (Clinton won by plurality each time). Even won Indiana in 2008.

Obama made a lot of people (some of which clearly part of Clinton's campaign) forget what the political climate in Wisconsin is when it's not an extremely talented candidate on the ticket and how difficult it is to campaign in those states. Obama visited every county in Iowa in both elections; they're places where you need literal boots on the ground talking to voters.

Did anyone have Trump carrying Wisconsin prior to election day, though? I don't even think Karl Rove's wet dream included that state :lol.

Personally, i placed that state next to Minnesota in the pipe dream category since it only sometimes teased but never actually went red.

[Republicrat]

Truth.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1297894260826615808

Racists.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/R9hFgZv/20200825-182010.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

https://i.ibb.co/R9hFgZv/20200825-182010.jpgYou're scared as a white person in Poland.

[Spurtacular]

https://i.ibb.co/MgJWhs7/IMG-20200825-194859.png

No thanks. You won't catch me wearing that face diaper like that.

[Winehole23]

1298390146656731138

[Spurtacular]

1298390146656731138

How could Sleepy Joe not choose this Karen? :lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298435434331213825?s=20

[Nathan89]

1298390146656731138

This is pure race baiting narrative tbh. Many white people are killed by police and there are terrible videos of it. Thanks for displaying the divisive rhetoric of the left.

Also if "broke up a fight" is just some bias witness then I'll wait for more evidence.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298435434331213825?s=20

:tu

[Ef-man]

This is pure race baiting narrative tbh. Many white people are killed by police and there is terrible videos of it. Thanks for displaying divisive rhetoric of the left.

Also if "broke up a fight" is just some bias witness then I'll wait for more evidence.

:lmao

As if you ever against race baiting.

Good one!

Mark this post.

Nathan says race baiting is now bad!

:lmao :lmao

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298435434331213825?s=20Now free speech is terrorism.

You suck at this, Nathan.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Radical Black Terrorists


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqEfXtDKJCE

[ElNono]

Now free speech is terrorism.

You suck at this, Nathan.

yep, fascist right doing fascist right things

[Winehole23]

why isn't this considered looting?

1298350433967190017

[DarrinS]

why isn't this considered looting?

1298350433967190017

Oddly enough, I've sold three homes and my realtor always advised me to take down family photos.

[Nathan89]

Now free speech is terrorism.

You suck at this, Nathan.

Nobody said that it was.

[Spurtacular]

why isn't this considered looting?

1298350433967190017

:lol Fake news
:lol Blakehole

[TSA]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17obsvmt_EfwoSgNAhhwDrToHa0VU4UTz/view

pre-riot welp

[Winehole23]

:lol Radical Black Terrorists


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqEfXtDKJCEYou saw black folks in a (racially mixed) crowd, that crowd did bad things, you blame blacks and radicals without any particularized evidence that "blacks" or "BLM radicals" did anything at all.

Says more about you than them, tbh.

1298475639863992321

[ChumpDumper]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17obsvmt_EfwoSgNAhhwDrToHa0VU4UTz/view

pre-riot welpWhat's a Trafalgar Group?

[Winehole23]

Nobody said that it was.well, what you posted was neither violent nor racist, so what's your gripe?

[Winehole23]

What's a Trafalgar Group?Many Trump voters are too shy and sensitive to admit to pollsters that they support him. Trafalgar Group gets around that by asking them how they think their neighbors will vote. Their polling predicted Trump's 2016 victories in MI and PA.

[ElNono]

Many Trump voters are too shy and sensitive to admit to pollsters that they support him. Trafalgar Group gets around that by asking them how they think their neighbors will vote. Their polling predicted Trump's 2016 victories in MI and PA.

The representation is kind of weird... Black population in WI is 6%+, but only 4% represented in the poll... same thing with Hispanics (6% in the state, vs 3.7% in the poll)

Maybe it's pre-adjusted for voter suppression, tbh...

[ElNono]

Kinda shitty too that they don't show methodology

[Nathan89]

Many Trump voters are too shy and sensitive to admit to pollsters that they support him. Trafalgar Group gets around that by asking them how they think their neighbors will vote. Their polling predicted Trump's 2016 victories in MI and PA.

That's a weird way to frame people trying to protect themselves from leftist lunatics.

[Winehole23]

That's a weird way to frame people trying to protect themselves from leftist lunatics.From pollsters? :lmao

[Will Hunting]

What's a Trafalgar Group?
It's a right leaning pollster.

Keep in mind, Clinton actually outperformed Trafalgar polls in 2016.

-It's final Michigan poll had Trump winning Michigan by 2%. He won by 0.23%.
-It's final Pennsylvania poll had Trump winning Michigan by 1-2%. He won by 0.6%.

If Biden is within a percentage point in a Trafalgar poll, he's probably favored to win the state.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298413074999894018?s=20

[Nathan89]

From pollsters? :lmao. From the random person calling them.

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298413074999894018?s=20It's a dud.

Changes nothing, doesn't matter.

[Winehole23]

. From the random person calling them.I guess it stands to reason people afraid to answer calls from strange numbers would also be afraid of the people on the other end of the line.

(I never had any idea Trump supporters were so meek and timid.)

[Nathan89]

I guess it stands to reason people afraid to answer calls from strange numbers would also be afraid of the people on the other end of the line.

(I never had any idea Trump supporters were so meek and timid.)

Has a lot to do with how violent the left is. Thanks for trying to shame Trump supporters though.

[Nathan89]

If all these rioters, politicians, athletes, celebs, and corporations care about black people they should tell them to stop resisting arrest.

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298435434331213825?s=20
In my lifetime they won't integrate. Which is odd considering they are more entrenched and accepted in America than any other Western nation

[Winehole23]

Has a lot to do with how violent the left is. Thanks for trying to shame Trump supporters though.I can see that you're completely afraid, I'd be wary of universalizing that situation.

Is everything that scares you axiomatically leftist? Hard for me to see how fighting against bigotry and for fairness is leftist or rightist per se, can you explain how?

[Winehole23]

If all these rioters, politicians, athletes, celebs, and corporations care about black people they should tell them to stop resisting arrest.Resisting arrest isn't a capital offense. It's a misdemeanor.

Cops should cut down on shooting and killing people carelessly if they want their cities to be safe.