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dg7md
08-27-2020, 07:02 AM
I thought they did years ago

:lmao

spankadelphia
08-27-2020, 09:18 AM
Jews are the ones instigating all this nonsense. Blacks are their pets. Taking middle class whitey's shit is the goal. It's called the high-low coalition: the rich and the poor team up against the middle. Occupy Main Street.

Pro sports are dead. Enjoy the handouts while they lsst.

dbreiden83080
08-27-2020, 09:37 AM
3) NBA players need to be careful here. They need to come up with a clear agenda on how the issues that matter to them can be addresses, and can be done in a way that their communities can benefit from it. Otherwise, simpy deciding to stop playing because there are events that make them sad will not, and should not, be perceived by the rest of society as anything but a childish outburst by a few privileged millionaires which might hurt the league itself in the long-run.

Exactly. Players get into the NBA to live out their hoop dreams, and make that paper.. Owners wants to make as much money as possible. Fans just want to see Basketball.. So you all can walk off the court demanding social justice reform. But guess what you got a job to do, and if you won't do it, somebody else will.. This is quickly turning into a labor issue. Players think they can just leave on a moments notice, cost the league millions.. No..

dbreiden83080
08-27-2020, 09:41 AM
They do boycott and making things worse. Nice job.


How come all of sudden things that were happening all the time makes pro athletes not going to work?

This is sadly our culture today.. I am not Happy.. So rather than work through it, lets quit..

LkrFan
08-27-2020, 10:16 AM
https://media.thedonald.win/post/Tx9bLfLT.png

Delete this :rollin :lmao :rollin

ambchang
08-27-2020, 10:24 AM
They are still in the bubble. What are they gonna do march the streets of ORlando?
Bron isn't my favorite guy but his commitment to social injustice has never wavered.
He and CP3 are close and they tried to have their cake (protest messaging) and eat it too (recoup lost income/revenue)

Reports are he was one of the louder voices arguing to cease play.
Maybe a skpetic could argue it was after seeing the Clips blow out the Mavs (doubtful but I can see a case) but playing Madden doesn't mean he doesn't care.
For me playing Destiny or COD shooters or watching a great movie is only way top get my mind off all this shit because like Bron I don't smoke weed ...
Some WAP doesn't hurt but that's only 45 mins to an hour ...

Maybe he shouldn’t have shut Daryl morey up. Everything he does after that is disingenuous and self serving.

jjktkk
08-27-2020, 10:39 AM
There were 400 people shot in Chicago this month, i hope the Bulls take a stand and never play basketball again.

Its crazy why is this never mentioned from the BLM folks.

jjktkk
08-27-2020, 10:44 AM
Random blacks that are robbing killing or drug dealing ... are not being paad tax payer money to protect and serve. Black on black ...white on white crime etc is a problem for all communities.
But cops are paid to serve their communities ...random folks including criminals...are not.

The problem starts when white police officers are policing black communities. Not enough black folks want to police their own communities. Are they afraid of being perceived as "Uncle Toms" if they do? I don't know tbh.

lefty
08-27-2020, 10:49 AM
Maybe he shouldn’t have shut Daryl morey up. Everything he does after that is disingenuous and self serving.

jjktkk
08-27-2020, 10:57 AM
Bron isn't my favorite guy but his commitment to social injustice has never wavered.
It wavered in China tbh.

ECOV
08-27-2020, 10:57 AM
yall are blind idiots if youu do know see the bigger picture, if you where in there shoes.

ECOV
08-27-2020, 10:59 AM
Delete this :rollin :lmao :rollin
most people on spurstalk cant get by the title page

Texas_Ranger
08-27-2020, 11:00 AM
Nba playoffs are back. Lmao

Clipper Nation
08-27-2020, 11:07 AM
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Seriously? All they wanted was MORE performative woke nonsense during the games? Pretty clear now that this was just a diva bitchfit by the players, not an actual boycott.

djohn2oo8
08-27-2020, 11:18 AM
:lol

djohn2oo8
08-27-2020, 11:19 AM
They are still in the bubble. What are they gonna do march the streets of ORlando?
Bron isn't my favorite guy but his commitment to social injustice has never wavered.
He and CP3 are close and they tried to have their cake (protest messaging) and eat it too (recoup lost income/revenue)

Reports are he was one of the louder voices arguing to cease play.
Maybe a skpetic could argue it was after seeing the Clips blow out the Mavs (doubtful but I can see a case) but playing Madden doesn't mean he doesn't care.
For me playing Destiny or COD shooters or watching a great movie is only way top get my mind off all this shit because like Bron I don't smoke weed ...
Some WAP doesn't hurt but that's only 45 mins to an hour ...
Are you kidding me? LeCoon couldn’t wait to tell Morey to shut up and GM when it came to talking about injustice and Hong Kong

Nathan89
08-27-2020, 11:49 AM
I know this issue has become almost impossible to talk about, with emotions running so high, and an inability to understand each other, but I'll give it a try, even though I might fail more than most. I am someone that has spent my life living both in Europe and in the US for large periods, and I'd like to think I have some opinions from how this all looks on the outside.

1) Let me start with the most basic fact to me. The US is NOT a systemically and institutionally racist country! In fact, it is by far the most successful society in the world in integrating newcomers and people of different backgrounds and putting them on a successful life path. None of the European countries, often seen as a form of social welfare paradise, comes even close to achieving the same type of integration, even though (or maybe because) they have few less people with an immigration background. The level of success that immigrant from East Asia, South Asia, South-East Asia, Eastern Europe, and, most importantly Africa, - all regions with immense polical and social problems - have achieved in the US, and nowhere else, is a testament to this.

Therefore, calls for a complete overhaul of the country, re-writing of the constitution, etc., will not only fall on def ears, they will most likely provoke backlash, and for good reasons. This is important because in order to make social changes, a movement has to engage most of society, instead of turning against it. And the US' ability to provide opportunities for people from all backgrounds must be cheered and highlighted, and put to good use, instead of denied and vilified.

2) Unfortunately, BLM, and other social movements coming from the left, are positioning themselves constantly as oppononents to the rest of society. Whether demanding white people leave their diners, or trivial issues like changing the way people use "male/female", movements will fail and antagonize the rest of society if they don't create a goal which benefits us all. Therefore, calls for "defunding the police" will be seen as outright dangerous from people that depend on the safety and security that police provides. This is bound to end in failure. MLK or Nelson Mandela's to other parts of their society was that integration of blacks would not hurt anyone, instead it would create stronger and more powerful societies from which all could benefit. Mandela even chose the rugby national team, a symbol for the white population of South Africa, as an example of how the integration of blacks could lead to more success for all of the country.

I think Donald Trump needs to be defeated. Whatever his policies, his tone, his behavior, his comments, are not what a society needs during crisis. Instead of lending a hand, he's way too hapy to throw gasoline on a fire and make a situation worse. As a President, he needs to do better. Unfortunately, the behavior of many from the left will not seem more concilliatory and rational to everyday people either. There is no way that a constant barrage of labeling everyone who disagrees with a movement as "racists/sexist/homophobe/transphobe/islamophobe, etc" will create any sort of movement that will be wide and large in its support.

3) NBA players need to be careful here. They need to come up with a clear agenda on how the issues that matter to them can be addresses, and can be done in a way that their communities can benefit from it. Otherwise, simpy deciding to stop playing because there are events that make them sad will not, and should not, be perceived by the rest of society as anything but a childish outburst by a few privileged millionaires which might hurt the league itself in the long-run.

Great post beside the part about Trump needing to be defeated tbh.

ducks
08-27-2020, 11:49 AM
NBPA executive director Michele Roberts and senior counsel Ron Klempner, both of whom were on site in Orlando for Wednesday's meeting, explained that if the players decide not to play the remainder of the season, they could lose 25-30 percent of their salary for next year. The league could also terminate the collective bargaining agreement and lock out the players while terms of a new CBA are negotiated under the economic and societal duress of the pandemic.

Might cost them a penny so they will play

ambchang
08-27-2020, 11:50 AM
Not overly surprised at the players resuming the playoffs nor the boycott in the first place. Players have emotions too and if they have things that would stop them from performing their best then they should take the time off to reflect just like any one would take a sick day or a personal day.

They suspended games for Kobe’s death earlier this year. So why can’t they suspend games for social injustice?

Clipper Nation
08-27-2020, 11:54 AM
Literally the only thing that's changed is that people will take NBA players' opinions on social/political issues even less seriously now, because they couldn't stick to their principles for longer than a day.

TimDunkem
08-27-2020, 11:55 AM
Literally the only thing that's changed is that people will take NBA players' opinions on social/political issues even less seriously now, because they couldn't stick to their principles for longer than a day.
Yeah the optics are not good if you're on the other side looking for ammo to use against the movement. Not only that, but the option of boycotting seems toothless now.

lefty
08-27-2020, 11:58 AM
:cry “muh wallet”

Kawhitstorm
08-27-2020, 11:59 AM
That's troubling for Americas future. Manchilds

There is hope though. I listened to Rap into my mid to late 20's.

Was that before you discovered gobbling wrinkled Jewish balls for a living?

Clipper Nation
08-27-2020, 12:02 PM
Yeah the optics are not good if you're on the other side looking for ammo to use against the movement. Not only that, but the option of boycotting seems toothless now.

I don't think the players realize that these extra "social justice messages" they want are now just empty virtue signaling. They pretend to care until it might cost them money.

TimDunkem
08-27-2020, 12:02 PM
Was that before you discovered gobbling wrinkled Jewish balls for a living?
Nah that was inherent. Licking boots and balls are in his Polish blood.

Thebesteva
08-27-2020, 12:04 PM
Literally the only thing that's changed is that people will take NBA players' opinions on social/political issues even less seriously now, because they couldn't stick to their principles for longer than a day.

Also now that the ratings are down 50% I expect them to be down even more after this 13 year old temper tantrum. I tried to watch the playoffs...really didnt mind about the jersey changes and BLM but there's a point you're just not into it anymore. Lebron made the Lakers such an unlikable team at this point also.

Kawhitstorm
08-27-2020, 12:12 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYf1IRU8AEUATs?format=jpg&name=900x900

What’s missing from this picture is the butt-plug on the coffee table

Neo.
08-27-2020, 12:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYf1IRU8AEUATs?format=jpg&name=900x900


What’s missing from this picture is the butt-plug on the coffee table

there's a difference between telling someone how to use a screw and screwdriver, and telling someone to quit retardedly using screwdrivers on nails.

AlexJones
08-27-2020, 12:22 PM
Fuck these coon ass nigs

endrity
08-27-2020, 12:43 PM
Great post beside the part about Trump needing to be defeated tbh.

I get it why people voted for him. I know quite well a lot of extremely smart and thoughtful people who simply shut up at their working place, don't talk to pollsters or colleagues, because they know that if they disagree with whatever new woke trend exists out there, they will be labeled, they will lose their career, and their business will need to shut down. Them, and not the "idiotic rednecks" which the media focuses on are the type of people who made Trump's victory possible. A lot of them are immigrants to the US, who worked hard as hell, and have achieved the type of success and a living standard that is beyond any dream they had in their countries of origin. What the US provided them with, no other country in the world ever could.

But there is also something to be said about providing a calming voice, toning down the rhetoric, and not inflaming it further even if you disagree with a lot of what is being said. A president should do that more than most. It doesn't cost much to provide a reconciliatory speech during these times, accept that police actions which go too far should be reviewed and if mistakes were made, then there should charges. In fact, by doing so, it only highlights even further the extremist on the other side.

Brazil
08-27-2020, 12:54 PM
This is probably the worst season ever to be a Laker or Clipper fan tbh...one of these teams is holding up a trophy in all likelihood end of the season and got robbed of that.

:lmao look who is already working dat agenda for the future

Clipper Nation
08-27-2020, 12:55 PM
"Calming down the rhetoric" would have to be a bipartisan effort for it to actually work, and we all know the left will never do that.

jehawk81
08-27-2020, 01:02 PM
Great post beside the part about Trump needing to be defeated tbh.

👍👍

jehawk81
08-27-2020, 01:11 PM
...

But there is also something to be said about providing a calming voice, toning down the rhetoric, and not inflaming it further even if you disagree with a lot of what is being said. A president should do that more than most. It doesn't cost much to provide a reconciliatory speech during these times, accept that police actions which go too far should be reviewed and if mistakes were made, then there should charges. In fact, by doing so, it only highlights even further the extremist on the other side.

C'mon man, look at what MSM & the liberal left has been doing for the last 3+ years.. they have literally been doing the opposite of what you're suggesting should be done. As CN said, this is a bipartisan issue & the left will never do that

Arcadian
08-27-2020, 01:49 PM
:lol Bucks players reading their statement off a piece of paper like it's a high school book report

spankadelphia
08-27-2020, 02:08 PM
Buck status: BROKEN:rollin

Big Daddy Shlomo says jump, monkeys ask how high? Big daddy ain’t whitey and they know it.

thunder
08-27-2020, 06:40 PM
Hmm. Speaking up about China, these bitches sided with China. Fuck them
:tu

daslicer
08-27-2020, 06:54 PM
Literally the only thing that's changed is that people will take NBA players' opinions on social/political issues even less seriously now, because they couldn't stick to their principles for longer than a day.

Agreed it's a terrible look for the NBA players. They lost great credibility and weakened themselves by not going through with cancelling the playoffs. It now looks childish and silly that they just postponed the games and brought all this attention upon themselves.

Killakobe81
08-27-2020, 07:16 PM
I get it why people voted for him. I know quite well a lot of extremely smart and thoughtful people who simply shut up at their working place, don't talk to pollsters or colleagues, because they know that if they disagree with whatever new woke trend exists out there, they will be labeled, they will lose their career, and their business will need to shut down. Them, and not the "idiotic rednecks" which the media focuses on are the type of people who made Trump's victory possible. A lot of them are immigrants to the US, who worked hard as hell, and have achieved the type of success and a living standard that is beyond any dream they had in their countries of origin. What the US provided them with, no other country in the world ever could.

But there is also something to be said about providing a calming voice, toning down the rhetoric, and not inflaming it further even if you disagree with a lot of what is being said. A president should do that more than most. It doesn't cost much to provide a reconciliatory speech during these times, accept that police actions which go too far should be reviewed and if mistakes were made, then there should charges. In fact, by doing so, it only highlights even further the extremist on the other side.

Amen. Even if you agree with the wall tax breaks etc.
What does it hurt to offer a few words of reconciliation or healing in a very turbulent time?
I get he has not been given a fair shake by main stream media but some of that he brought on himself ...but even if its a bunch of fake news we expect our POTUS to rise above it. The bushes were Republicans even more conservative in their core values and did not fan the flames the way Trump does.

Nathan89
08-27-2020, 07:31 PM
I get it why people voted for him. I know quite well a lot of extremely smart and thoughtful people who simply shut up at their working place, don't talk to pollsters or colleagues, because they know that if they disagree with whatever new woke trend exists out there, they will be labeled, they will lose their career, and their business will need to shut down. Them, and not the "idiotic rednecks" which the media focuses on are the type of people who made Trump's victory possible. A lot of them are immigrants to the US, who worked hard as hell, and have achieved the type of success and a living standard that is beyond any dream they had in their countries of origin. What the US provided them with, no other country in the world ever could.

But there is also something to be said about providing a calming voice, toning down the rhetoric, and not inflaming it further even if you disagree with a lot of what is being said. A president should do that more than most. It doesn't cost much to provide a reconciliatory speech during these times, accept that police actions which go too far should be reviewed and if mistakes were made, then there should charges. In fact, by doing so, it only highlights even further the extremist on the other side.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1299089077573234693?s=20

Joe and Kamala both push false racial narratives. They aren't going to tone down anything.

Nathan89
08-27-2020, 07:34 PM
https://twitter.com/mbracemoore/status/1298676099463905280?s=20

Another example of Biden pushing false racial narratives.

timtonymanu
08-27-2020, 07:59 PM
:lol Today’s NBA

ambchang
08-27-2020, 08:44 PM
Nobody boycotted the day they shot Jacob Blake. Or the day after. It wasn’t an emotional punch like Kobe’s death. They waited until it became the biggest story in the country, so it was all a premeditated stunt. They made threats of ending the season and then they almost immediately backed off. They handled this the wrong way at literally every step.

Could be but I’m not sure if the story made critical mass and have all the necessary information. I didn’t know about it until two rays ago.

ambchang
08-27-2020, 08:52 PM
Now NHL postponing weekend games.

FrostKing
08-27-2020, 09:25 PM
https://i.ibb.co/SncMLqV/20200827-192435.jpg

Brian Urlacher

polandprzem
08-28-2020, 04:21 AM
This is sadly our culture today.. I am not Happy.. So rather than work through it, lets quit..

Yea, already in US you have black lives more important and that's making things worse cause it's not saying we are all the same. It's separates people from the get go. I assume no white man was killed on Planet Earth that time.

Stopping economy and not playing will not do much. There always gonna be a problem with accepting people that are not like we are. You see it everywhere and it's not color of skin related.

Tell your boss you not going to work cause life is not fair and there is injustice. He might say you are right and you can come back when the problem will be resolved and there will be peace in the world.
but idk

Killakobe81
08-28-2020, 08:33 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1299089077573234693?s=20

Joe and Kamala both push false racial narratives. They aren't going to tone down anything.

Why does everyone always deflect?
Even if Biden wins that change comes in 2021.
Trump is our president NOW he is the one that should be calming not stirring the waters. Anytime an honest critique is lobbed at Trump his defenders bring up Obama Hillary or now Biden. Only Trump has the ability now to make a difference.
Not everything is political just be a good person and show empathy over ego.
I dont love Bifen as a candidate if Trump showed more morals and a better plan for r
Actually MAGA he would earn my vote be he hasnt so he probably wont.

Brazil
08-28-2020, 09:15 AM
This is sadly our culture today.. I am not Happy.. So rather than work through it, lets quit..

dude you should take a chill pill tbh.. not sure why you are so upset.. how this boycott is impacting your life that much that you spend last 48 hours having a tantrum about black millionaires athlete protesting and refusing to play ? do you have any financial interest in that ? you are mad because those black dudes don't want to entertain you anymore ?

smh

lefty
08-28-2020, 09:18 AM
dude you should take a chill pill tbh.. not sure why you are so upset.. how this boycott is impacting your life that much that you spend last 48 hours having a tantrum about black millionaires athlete protesting and refusing to play ? do you have any financial interest in that ? you are mad because those black dudes don't want to entertain you anymore ?

smh
Brazil avec les bons

:lol I know that's not the right translation

apalisoc_9
08-28-2020, 09:30 AM
dude you should take a chill pill tbh.. not sure why you are so upset.. how this boycott is impacting your life that much that you spend last 48 hours having a tantrum about black millionaires athlete protesting and refusing to play ? do you have any financial interest in that ? you are mad because those black dudes don't want to entertain you anymore ?

smh

:lol

Players have emotions. It’s a mistake to boycot but is it really that difficult to understand why they’re boycotting?

Fans sometimes can be entitled pieces lf shit. Them being millionaire doesnt mean they need to just be be greatful and shutup and play.

Arcadian
08-28-2020, 10:04 AM
So are they playing today?

KobesAchilles
08-28-2020, 12:06 PM
So are they playing today?
Yes. They boycotted a whole 2 days. Cesar Chavez would be proud

LkrFan
08-28-2020, 12:16 PM
wHaT dID bOYcOTtING aCcOMPlish?
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1299393880677326849?s=19

32 arenas all seat at least 18,000 fans. This is genius. Gonna be hard for the Republicans to stop this. No wonder Laura Ingraham wanted Bron to just shut up and dribble. :lol

LeBron's "More than a vote" is behind this shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit :lol

LkrFan
08-28-2020, 12:18 PM
More evidence
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1299394761204404224?s=19

Long live the Kang :toast

Nathan89
08-28-2020, 12:22 PM
Why does everyone always deflect?
Even if Biden wins that change comes in 2021.
Trump is our president NOW he is the one that should be calming not stirring the waters. Anytime an honest critique is lobbed at Trump his defenders bring up Obama Hillary or now Biden. Only Trump has the ability now to make a difference.
Not everything is political just be a good person and show empathy over ego.
I dont love Bifen as a candidate if Trump showed more morals and a better plan for r
Actually MAGA he would earn my vote be he hasnt so he probably wont.

Trump has offered federal help and has been declined.

The fuel is ideological and much of that fuel is powered by lies.

LkrFan
08-28-2020, 12:29 PM
What’s your thoughts on Trump pushing the Obama birther lie?

Or Kamala Harris :lol

Arcadian
08-28-2020, 12:34 PM
Update: games will resume on Saturday.

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/08/28/nba-npba-joint-statement-social-justice

LkrFan
08-28-2020, 12:37 PM
Not a shock that Nathan89 is ignoring my post like a the a cowardly little bitch :lol

Yup - he is bitchmade :lmao

gambit1990
08-28-2020, 02:39 PM
people on reddit are like: “i’m confused” :lmao

most of us knew the games would be back soon.

dbreiden83080
08-28-2020, 03:26 PM
dude you should take a chill pill tbh.. not sure why you are so upset.. how this boycott is impacting your life that much that you spend last 48 hours having a tantrum about black millionaires athlete protesting and refusing to play ? do you have any financial interest in that ? you are mad because those black dudes don't want to entertain you anymore ?

smh


On the scale of dickhead trolling posters in this place my hissy fit ranks

About a


3..

spankadelphia
08-28-2020, 03:28 PM
“Put us back in control of the executive and we promise this will all go away! Puhleeeeeze?!?”

:lmao

daslicer
08-28-2020, 03:50 PM
Why does everyone always deflect?
Even if Biden wins that change comes in 2021.
Trump is our president NOW he is the one that should be calming not stirring the waters. Anytime an honest critique is lobbed at Trump his defenders bring up Obama Hillary or now Biden. Only Trump has the ability now to make a difference.
Not everything is political just be a good person and show empathy over ego.
I dont love Bifen as a candidate if Trump showed more morals and a better plan for r
Actually MAGA he would earn my vote be he hasnt so he probably wont.

I'll take what you said a step further. I'm in my 30's and consider myself a real progressive. The Obama administration was a wake up call for me how Dems are also bought and owned by corporations just like the republicans. Since 2016 I have felt extreme alienation from the democratic party simply due to how dismissive they are of progressives like Bernie and their progressive ideas. They basically tells us to shut up and take it but then they will scream "Hey at least we are tolerant of minorities,gays,women unlike the republicans." When you don't offer much other than fake tolerance you are not a legit party because you can't simply legislate hate away. If only it was that easy. I absolutely despise Biden because he represents the corporate democrats that I hate. He has shitted on millennials directly on many occasions but also wants us to vote for him. The reason I bring this up is if Trump was a republican like McCain or Romney than I would not even bother to vote at all simply because these guys would have some integrity not to be openly racist, and not make the effort to tear up the racial fabric of America. Trump's divisive rhetoric is simply god awful that he's given me no choice go out and vote for Biden and keep in mind I live in a swing state. If I lived in a strong blue state or red state than I would not even vote. After this election I'm done with both parties.

LakerHater
08-28-2020, 05:35 PM
well that was dumb, they jus got 2 days off! :rolleyes

Now back to work

TDfan2007
08-28-2020, 05:51 PM
I'll take what you said a step further. I'm in my 30's and consider myself a real progressive. The Obama administration was a wake up call for me how Dems are also bought and owned by corporations just like the republicans. Since 2016 I have felt extreme alienation from the democratic party simply due to how dismissive they are of progressives like Bernie and their progressive ideas. They basically tells us to shut up and take it but then they will scream "Hey at least we are tolerant of minorities,gays,women unlike the republicans." When you don't offer much other than fake tolerance you are not a legit party because you can't simply legislate hate away. If only it was that easy. I absolutely despise Biden because he represents the corporate democrats that I hate. He has shitted on millennials directly on many occasions but also wants us to vote for him. The reason I bring this up is if Trump was a republican like McCain or Romney than I would not even bother to vote at all simply because these guys would have some integrity not to be openly racist, and not make the effort to tear up the racial fabric of America. Trump's divisive rhetoric is simply god awful that he's given me no choice go out and vote for Biden and keep in mind I live in a swing state. If I lived in a strong blue state or red state than I would not even vote. After this election I'm done with both parties.

I feel this almost exact sentiment more and more by the day.

Unfortunately, it looks like there's too much money at stake for a true progressive like Bernie, or even Warren, to be elected.

Biden is a company man, for sure, but better him than an unhinged narcissist who no longer has to care about re-election...

daslicer
08-28-2020, 06:36 PM
I feel this almost exact sentiment more and more by the day.

Unfortunately, it looks like there's too much money at stake for a true progressive like Bernie, or even Warren, to be elected.

Biden is a company man, for sure, but better him than an unhinged narcissist who no longer has to care about re-election...

That's pretty much the case. The Dems are controlled by the rich and corporations so of course they will do everything in their power to prevent a progressive like Bernie from ever becoming the leader of the party.

The parties are not even that much off when it comes to tax structure. For years Obama pushed for a 25 percent corporate tax rate which was lower than the 35 percent corporate rate which was in place since the Clinton presidency. Trump reduced it to 21 percent. Biden is proposing 28 percent rate and you have the republicans screaming it's too high when in reality it's pretty low. Both parties want low taxes on corporations but you have the republicans screaming Biden is a socialist for his 28 percent rate proposal which is very laughable. It's laughable because Biden's 28 percent tax rate would be second lowest corporate tax rate after Trump's since 1940. It's very clear both parties strongly favor corporations and the rich.

I'm just waiting for the day where the dems propose a 10 percent tax rate on corporations and the republicans scream it's too high and then republicans will pass a 5 percent tax rate.

Spurtacular
08-28-2020, 10:25 PM
Damn, are these douche nozzles still not playing, then?

Just cancel the season, then. Tired of these self-important assholes not doing their jobs.

Killakobe81
08-29-2020, 01:07 AM
I'll take what you said a step further. I'm in my 30's and consider myself a real progressive. The Obama administration was a wake up call for me how Dems are also bought and owned by corporations just like the republicans. Since 2016 I have felt extreme alienation from the democratic party simply due to how dismissive they are of progressives like Bernie and their progressive ideas. They basically tells us to shut up and take it but then they will scream "Hey at least we are tolerant of minorities,gays,women unlike the republicans." When you don't offer much other than fake tolerance you are not a legit party because you can't simply legislate hate away. If only it was that easy. I absolutely despise Biden because he represents the corporate democrats that I hate. He has shitted on millennials directly on many occasions but also wants us to vote for him. The reason I bring this up is if Trump was a republican like McCain or Romney than I would not even bother to vote at all simply because these guys would have some integrity not to be openly racist, and not make the effort to tear up the racial fabric of America. Trump's divisive rhetoric is simply god awful that he's given me no choice go out and vote for Biden and keep in mind I live in a swing state. If I lived in a strong blue state or red state than I would not even vote. After this election I'm done with both parties.

I agree that the dismissive behavior of the DNC is troubling. its sad that the last two elections are the lessor of two evil elections.
I Would support A Romney full heartedly over any of the officially nominated candidates of either party.
HE at least would try and heal some of the wounds of the past 10 plus years ... and though he was a bit conservative he at least was a moral man with empathy ...and didn't trade in divisive rhetoric.
Really wish we had a true moderate who wanted to build a bi-partisan bridge to try and fix this country ...

TDfan2007
08-29-2020, 01:13 PM
I agree that the dismissive behavior of the DNC is troubling. its sad that the last two elections are the lessor of two evil elections.
I Would support A Romney full heartedly over any of the officially nominated candidates of either party.
HE at least would try and heal some of the wounds of the past 10 plus years ... and though he was a bit conservative he at least was a moral man with empathy ...and didn't trade in divisive rhetoric.
Really wish we had a true moderate who wanted to build a bi-partisan bridge to try and fix this country ...

Biden is a moderate though...Dems knock him for not being progressive enough and Republicans say he's going to tear down the country with socialist policies. Sounds like a moderate to me lol

Chris
08-29-2020, 06:22 PM
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GAustex
08-29-2020, 07:05 PM
Wow

FrostKing
08-30-2020, 11:27 PM
Logging in I notice the Spurstalk headline: "Spurs players mourn the passing of Robinson, Olsen and Boseman (?)"

So NBA actually did a moment of silence for an obscure actor just because the color of his skin? This League might be beyond repair with this level of racism.

daslicer
08-30-2020, 11:50 PM
Logging in I notice the Spurstalk headline: "Spurs players mourn the passing of Robinson, Olsen and Boseman (?)"

So NBA actually did a moment of silence for an obscure actor just because the color of his skin? This League might be beyond repair with this level of racism.

He was widely known for his star role in the blockbuster Black Panther. So let’s not act like he wasn’t widely known. I’m sure if the guy who played Captain America died tomorrow he would have gotten the same tribute. Don’t make this into a racial issue when it’s not.

Brazil
08-31-2020, 07:55 AM
Brazil avec les bons

:lol I know that's not the right translation

:lol the goods....

Brazil
08-31-2020, 07:59 AM
On the scale of dickhead trolling posters in this place my hissy fit ranks

About a


3..

well compared to the usual suspects yes probably a 3, compared to your usual self a 9... again not sure why so worked up... relax Spurs are out, these POs are fucked up anyway..

lefty
08-31-2020, 08:44 AM
So MJ is the one who convinced the players to continue?
Apprently he reached out to CP3 and Westbrook before the meeting, and told his fellow owners to listen to the players first

dbreiden83080
08-31-2020, 01:29 PM
So MJ is the one who convinced the players to continue?
Apprently he reached out to CP3 and Westbrook before the meeting, and told his fellow owners to listen to the players first

And apparently LeBron James walk out was more about the young players not wanting to listen to him preach.

TDfan2007
08-31-2020, 01:42 PM
So MJ is the one who convinced the players to continue?
Apprently he reached out to CP3 and Westbrook before the meeting, and told his fellow owners to listen to the players first

Hell hath frozen over