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Rocalcio
08-26-2020, 04:06 PM
Might be the first one of many cancelled games...

Rocalcio
08-26-2020, 04:12 PM
NBA just announced that all tonight’s games are postponed.

BackHome
08-26-2020, 04:13 PM
RIP the NBA. So I take it that tomorrow’s game will also be canceled?

Dejounte
08-26-2020, 04:25 PM
So what does this mean for the games tomorrow and the next game? Are they going to play in those games and forget about today?

Rocalcio
08-26-2020, 04:27 PM
RIP the NBA. So I take it that tomorrow’s game will also be canceled?

I know Raptors and Celtics were also talking about boycotting their first game tomorrow, so it might be the case yup.

Seventyniner
08-26-2020, 04:28 PM
Boycotting just one game doesn't move any needles. But sitting out indefinitely begs the question: what will it take for them to come back?

BackHome
08-26-2020, 04:30 PM
I guess good news for Dallas fans lets some of there players heal up.

DAF86
08-26-2020, 04:35 PM
What happened?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 04:39 PM
What happened?

Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha (about 60km from Milwaukee) last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home

Russ
08-26-2020, 04:43 PM
Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home

But it's just fake news until Luguentz Dort weighs in.

Floyd Pacquiao
08-26-2020, 04:48 PM
Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha (about 60km from Milwaukee) last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home
I heard they were not protesters but rioters fucking up a car lot

Rocalcio
08-26-2020, 04:49 PM
Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha (about 60km from Milwaukee) last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home

And the protest was against the shooting of Jacob Blake by a cop in the same city.

cd98
08-26-2020, 04:53 PM
Boycotting this game will really help get the message...to no one. But it doesn't really matter to me because I had no plans to watch the Bucks/Magic yawn fest. Now the Mavs/Clippers, that's a series I'm interested in watching so hopefully they don't boycott.

exstatic
08-26-2020, 04:58 PM
I heard they were not protesters but rioters fucking up a car lot

The shooter was some 17 YO retard incel from out of state. In other words, it wasn’t his fucking car lot to defend. He has been charged with first degree murder. The cops supposedly told the Boogaloo Bois they would push the protestors towards them. The cops got what they wanted, and this stupid kid is going to spend the rest of his life in prison being butt fucked by Aryan Nation weightlifters. Oh well, at least he won’t be celibate any more.

BackHome
08-26-2020, 05:07 PM
Anyone taking a firearm to a protest is just NOT playing with a full deck of cards glad he was arrested and hopefully spends the rest of his life rotting in jail. Only good thing is that him being locked up will help the gene pool get stronger since he can’t produce any kids.

pad300
08-26-2020, 05:13 PM
The shooter was some 17 YO retard incel from out of state. In other words, it wasn’t his fucking car lot to defend. He has been charged with first degree murder. The cops supposedly told the Boogaloo Bois they would push the protestors towards them. The cops got what they wanted, and this stupid kid is going to spend the rest of his life in prison being butt fucked by Aryan Nation weightlifters. Oh well, at least he won’t be celibate any more.

I've seen 2 bits of online video, which strongly suggest he has a decent self defense case... You might want to wait on your assumptions until we have a trial.

Floyd Pacquiao
08-26-2020, 05:15 PM
The shooter was some 17 YO retard incel from out of state. In other words, it wasn’t his fucking car lot to defend. He has been charged with first degree murder. The cops supposedly told the Boogaloo Bois they would push the protestors towards them. The cops got what they wanted, and this stupid kid is going to spend the rest of his life in prison being butt fucked by Aryan Nation weightlifters. Oh well, at least he won’t be celibate any more.
For sure it should’ve been the owner and not that kid to protect the property, he should’ve let them torch it I guess.

exstatic
08-26-2020, 05:17 PM
I've seen 2 bits of online video, which strongly suggest he has a decent self defense case... You might want to wait on your assumptions until we have a trial.

He was the only one shooting, and the BBs were the only ones openly carrying/ brandishing firearms. You don’t get off a perfect head shot in a self defense situation. Doesn’t happen.

cd021
08-26-2020, 05:17 PM
Boycotting this game will really help get the message...to no one. But it doesn't really matter to me because I had no plans to watch the Bucks/Magic yawn fest. Now the Mavs/Clippers, that's a series I'm interested in watching so hopefully they don't boycott.

I mean its on the front page of CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC news. So it clearly has.

cool cat
08-26-2020, 05:17 PM
I said it before, it's stupid to act like this is the real playoffs.

They should have just called it a BLM tournament and raise money for charities and let those who didn't want to participate not show up. Covid and isolation are hard enough but then you throw in the social implications, I don't blame the players for not being 100% focused.

End the season already!

cd98
08-26-2020, 05:19 PM
I mean its on the front page of CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC news. So it clearly has.

Oh, it will get coverage, but it won't change anything. That's my point. Most people don't care if the Bucks play the Magic tonight or in 6 months. They don't care. And it's certainly not going to change anyone's opinions. So it's just a needless cancellation of a game.

cd021
08-26-2020, 05:22 PM
Anyone taking a firearm to a protest is just NOT playing with a full deck of cards glad he was arrested and hopefully spends the rest of his life rotting in jail. Only good thing is that him being locked up will help the gene pool get stronger since he can’t produce any kids.

In my state, last week, there were a bunch of assholes with AR-15's outside of the state capitol protesting gun safety measures. They certainly didn't look smart tbh.

cd021
08-26-2020, 05:31 PM
Oh, it will get coverage, but it won't change anything. That's my point. Most people don't care if the Bucks play the Magic tonight or in 6 months. They don't care. And it's certainly not going to change anyone's opinions. So it's just a needless cancellation of a game.

A pro team protesting by boycotting a game is unprecedented. That's going to get widespread national attention. Its not so much to change opinions but to galvanize the people who already care to take action. Evers ( the Gov of Wisconsin) is already trying to get the state legislature to act on policing reforms.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 05:31 PM
So what does this mean for the games tomorrow and the next game? Are they going to play in those games and forget about today?

The players are meeting tonight to decide what to do. Walking out and ending the season is on the table..

pad300
08-26-2020, 05:33 PM
Don't believe all the BS you hear online. This is apparently the first video,

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298485918303580162

I can't really see what's going on, but the story is that the guy who got shot rushed him blindside, the 17 year old turned and shot... That's the kind of thing that happens if you rush an armed man in a riot. Freeze it at 51 s, you'll see, that's no "perfect head shot", the guy still has a face. 2 inches higher or to the left it's a miss.

and this is the second

https://twitter.com/i/status/1298520602630688768

That's pretty clear self defense - those guys were mobbing him, and he could reasonably expect to get beaten to death...

playblair
08-26-2020, 05:34 PM
Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha (about 60km from Milwaukee) last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home
stop spreading fake news he was attacked u fooking snowflake

they are rioters not protesters stfu

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paperboy77
08-26-2020, 05:34 PM
Oh, it will get coverage, but it won't change anything. That's my point. Most people don't care if the Bucks play the Magic tonight or in 6 months. They don't care. And it's certainly not going to change anyone's opinions. So it's just a needless cancellation of a game.

Its a little like preaching to the choir. The only people that will profoundly care about games not happening are already pro-BLM. At least a large %. Why stop there just resign from hoops and go fight the good fight full time?

DAF86
08-26-2020, 05:35 PM
Right-wing Militiatard killed two protestors in Kenosha (about 60km from Milwaukee) last night and the cops just let him walk through their line and go back home

Smh.

Yall motherfuckers won't end this crap untill a civil war occurs.

Dejounte
08-26-2020, 05:36 PM
So...... Could the draft move up instead of move back if the playoffs gets canceled?

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 05:38 PM
A pro team protesting by boycotting a game is unprecedented. That's going to get widespread national attention. Its not so much to change opinions but to galvanize the people who already care to take action. Evers ( the Gov of Wisconsin) is already trying to get the state legislature to act on policing reforms.

I think that’s just a normal phase. At some point when these people still aren’t happy and still causing mayhem... a new phase will begin. At that point they will have blown their shot for real change and will be retaliated against. They are close to wearing out their welcome.

ZeusWillJudge
08-26-2020, 05:39 PM
Don't believe all the BS you hear online. This is apparently the first video,

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298485918303580162

I can't really see what's going on, but the story is that the guy who got shot rushed him blindside, the 17 year old turned and shot... That's the kind of thing that happens if you rush an armed man in a riot. Freeze it at 51 s, you'll see, that's no "perfect head shot", the guy still has a face. 2 inches higher or to the left it's a miss.

and this is the second

https://twitter.com/i/status/1298520602630688768

That's pretty clear self defense - those guys were mobbing him, and he could reasonably expect to get beaten to death...


Play stupid games... win stupid prizes.

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 05:40 PM
So...... Could the draft move up instead of move back if the playoffs gets canceled?


Now that’s the way to look at it. Need 2020 to be done ASAP!

ZeusWillJudge
08-26-2020, 05:46 PM
stop spreading fake news he was attacked u fooking snowflake

they are rioters not protesters stfu


Facts Don't Matter


The same day as the Blake shooting, two cops got shot by a guy who climbed back into his car and grabbed a weapon. The night before, some ANTIFA/BLM fucktard opened fire on a police vehicle. And still people are trying to call this "peaceful protest". If you want a revolution, then have the balls to call it. If you want "peaceful protest" then don't light shit on fire and shoot guns. You can't have it both ways, no matter how much you'd like to.

DAF86
08-26-2020, 05:46 PM
stop spreading fake news he was attacked u fooking snowflake

they are rioters not protesters stfu

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And why would he be attacked like that? Do you think he was just chilling minding his own businesses, or maybe, just maybe, and I'm going on a limb here, the guy went there and started to instigate shit?

I'm not taking sides here. Both parties are wrong. No matter what an idiot says, people shouldn't start attacking him. But the guy, knowing how violent some of these protesters are, should have known better and stay out of their way. He has nothing to do there. If that's a cause that doesn't represent you, then don't join the cause. Don't be there. Let the others protest for what they want and move along. And, finally, don't kill nobody son. That should go without saying.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 05:49 PM
So...... Could the draft move up instead of move back if the playoffs gets canceled?

I don't think anyone knows ... apparently the owners were blindsided by this.

cd98
08-26-2020, 05:50 PM
A pro team protesting by boycotting a game is unprecedented. That's going to get widespread national attention. Its not so much to change opinions but to galvanize the people who already care to take action. Evers ( the Gov of Wisconsin) is already trying to get the state legislature to act on policing reforms.

Yes, but he's not doing that because of the NBA. He's doing it because he's a Democrat and that's what his members of his party want. It has nothing to do with the Bucks cancellation. Just being honest here, but the vast majority of the public doesn't care about what NBA players think. It makes them feel good to take a stand, and that's fine, but it won't change anyone's mind, especially when so much of the "persuasion" is based in shaming and being unwilling to have a real discussion about race.

BatManu20
08-26-2020, 05:52 PM
Yea the 17 year-old kid shouldn’t have been there with a firearm in the first place. Kid was asking for trouble and this all could’ve been avoided if he hadn’t put himself in that situation. With that said, after seeing the videos, I’ve changed my stance. First guy he shot in the head He was running away from. The guy chasing him had just thrown a Molotov cocktail at him, and then continue to pursue and run up on him to attack him. That’s when he got shot in the head. Same guy was caught on camera earlier in the night repeatedly saying, “Shoot me n*gga!” Basically antagonizing the kid. Well, he got shot.

The shooter, after putting one in the guy’s dome, immediately called the cops to report what had happened as he fled the scene. He was then chased by other protestors/rioters. Kid with the rifle falls down while running away and is immediately attacked by 2 or 3 guys, one with a pistol in hand, and one with a skateboard. That’s when he started firing. He shot the skateboarder in the chest and the guy with a pistol in the arm. Shooter has a strong case for self-defense here.

Like I said, he shouldn’t have been there in the first place and from what I read it was illegal possession of a firearm since she was only 17, but he was retreating and then attacked both times he fired his weapon. Good chance he gets off of the First Degree Murder charge. He’ll definitely be charged for other stuff though. Should be an interesting case. Sad situation all around and could’ve easily been avoided.

cd98
08-26-2020, 05:54 PM
stop spreading fake news he was attacked u fooking snowflake

they are rioters not protesters stfu

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Eh, be careful of this. He shot someone that appeared to be unarmed before the whole "self protection" argument this guy is making. It's as likely that these folks jumped him because he just shot someone and not because he was a victim defending himself. Let's get the facts before we defend someone who may have murdered two people in cold blood. Teenagers that are emotionally charged should not go to these events armed to "protect" businesses. It is inevitable that they will make a poor decision and kill someone. Let the cops and the national guard keep the peace. It sucks for the business owners, but the governor is at fault for not calling in the feds sooner. But this kid has no good reason to be at the location armed and ready to shoot someone. It's an unnecessary provaction of an already hostile situation.

cd98
08-26-2020, 05:55 PM
Its a little like preaching to the choir. The only people that will profoundly care about games not happening are already pro-BLM. At least a large %. Why stop there just resign from hoops and go fight the good fight full time?

That's right and even they don't care what the NBA says. If the NBA said they backed the boys in blue, those same folks probably won't listen or change their opinions. It's just silly to think that regular folks care what athletes or sports leagues have to say. People form their own opinions.

Russ
08-26-2020, 06:18 PM
So it was a right-winger who fired the shots?

Do we agree on that much?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 06:23 PM
So it was a right-winger who fired the shots?

Do we agree on that much?

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cd98
08-26-2020, 06:25 PM
So it was a right-winger who fired the shots?

Do we agree on that much?

I don’t know if that is true, but he is someone that was part of a youth police club and supports the men in blue. Is that strictly a right wing position? I don’t know. I think that’s stereotyping, which is what the BLM is against, right?

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 06:27 PM
I don’t know if that is true, but he is someone that was part of a youth police club and supports the men in blue. Is that strictly a right wing position? I don’t know. I think that’s stereotyping, which is what the BLM is against, right?
He was in the front row of a Trump rally in January.

cd021
08-26-2020, 06:29 PM
I think that’s just a normal phase. At some point when these people still aren’t happy and still causing mayhem... a new phase will begin. At that point they will have blown their shot for real change and will be retaliated against. They are close to wearing out their welcome.

Its a special session in response to the police shooting. I don't think they've blown their shot at all. If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate then their are going to major policing changes in response to their protests.

Who cares if they wear out their welcome? The protests aren't about getting people on their side, its about getting justice and affecting policy/ society changes. They have a very good chance at doing that, technically they already have.

Russ
08-26-2020, 06:29 PM
I don’t know if that is true, but he is someone that was part of a youth police club and supports the men in blue. Is that strictly a right wing position? I don’t know. I think that’s stereotyping, which is what the BLM is against, right?

We're not talking about BLM here, we're talking about Trump.

Apparently the shooter is not a "socialist" or a "Marxist." That's all that matters in the current propaganda war coming from the pedestals of power in what's left of our country.

cd98
08-26-2020, 06:35 PM
He was in the front row of a Trump rally in January.
Eh, may be a Trump fan, but why? Trump has cross party appeal and cross party distain. Maybe he’s a Democrat that likes Trumps position on police and law enforcement. It’s sad that people are in such a rush to classify a crazy person to meet their agenda. Why not wait more than 24 hours to decide what happened and who the kid is and what he stands for?

MarCowMar
08-26-2020, 06:39 PM
And why would he be attacked like that? Do you think he was just chilling minding his own businesses, or maybe, just maybe, and I'm going on a limb here, the guy went there and started to instigate shit?

I'm not taking sides here. Both parties are wrong. No matter what an idiot says, people shouldn't start attacking him. But the guy, knowing how violent some of these protesters are, should have known better and stay out of their way. He has nothing to do there. If that's a cause that doesn't represent you, then don't join the cause. Don't be there. Let the others protest for what they want and move along. And, finally, don't kill nobody son. That should go without saying.

ANTIFA are rioting and destroying our cities--not protesting. People have the right and duty to protect their businesses, homes, cars, and families from ANTIFA terrorism in their neighborhood.

If ANTIFA expects to terrorize the country like they're in some GTA game with no consequences, they're deeply mistaken.

I don't have 100% of the facts to make a call on Rittenhouse--but there's an awful lot of evidence that at least some of the shots fired were justified. We'll see how things shake out in trial. Make sure to view information from sites of all political persuasions before coming to a conclusion.

Six months ago I'd be bobbing my head in agreement that we had a problem with hot-headed police ("systemic racism" if you'd like), but the police look as sage and peaceful as Saint Theresa compared to ANTIFA...

Lock up ANTIFA terrorists first and then we can return to fixing our problems with policing. Trump has shown he's willing to sign off on police reform in his 2016 term and I expect his 2020 term to be no different. Send the bill to his desk and he will do the right thing.

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 06:46 PM
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Remember they claimed the same crap about the cop in minnesota. Need a fact-check.

boutons_deux
08-26-2020, 06:48 PM
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cd021
08-26-2020, 06:52 PM
Yes, but he's not doing that because of the NBA. He's doing it because he's a Democrat and that's what his members of his party want. It has nothing to do with the Bucks cancellation. Just being honest here, but the vast majority of the public doesn't care about what NBA players think. It makes them feel good to take a stand, and that's fine, but it won't change anyone's mind, especially when so much of the "persuasion" is based in shaming and being unwilling to have a real discussion about race.

I didn't say that it was, it was in response to the actual shooting. He knew that there was going to be a major backlash and wanted to get out in front of it. Other states have already changed policy to get out in front of of future police shootings, Colorado in particular.

Again, doesn't really matter what the public thinks. Them boycotting was meant to send a message and galvanize the people that do believe in their message. All it takes is convincing the right ones who have to the ability to affect change.

In that way, I think the boycott is going to be very successful, especially in Wisconsin, where the Bucks are well liked. Refusing to play will force people to address the issues particularly in the state.

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 07:00 PM
Its a special session in response to the police shooting. I don't think they've blown their shot at all. If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate then their are going to major policing changes in response to their protests.

Who cares if they wear out their welcome? The protests aren't about getting people on their side, its about getting justice and affecting policy/ society changes. They have a very good chance at doing that, technically they already have.



If you think Biden is doing anything to improve your situation you are gravely mistaken. These guys are just using you for a quick vote. Watch... when he's in charge he'll go back to doing what he'd done the last 40+ years. Nothing but promises. Things don't change at the snap of a finger. Even if they pass laws... I guaranty blacks will still be killing blacks in Chicago. (A far bigger issue!) You've heard this before.. it takes the INDIVIDUAL to spark enduring change.

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Unless all of the current elected officials at all levels get voted out and the ones voted in are in line with your thinking... you damn right you don't want to wear out your welcome. Just think man, all those people that are the target of protesters that just sit there and take it. Looks like they are cowering and submitting to the mob. Once people get over the novelty of this uprising and start to form counter mobs then it will all go to shit. And, more than likely the same people will remain in office. At this point while BLM is making some progress they better not get too greedy.

I personally think they are not out for equality but for revenge.

ducks
08-26-2020, 07:04 PM
Don't believe all the BS you hear online. This is apparently the first video,

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298485918303580162

I can't really see what's going on, but the story is that the guy who got shot rushed him blindside, the 17 year old turned and shot... That's the kind of thing that happens if you rush an armed man in a riot. Freeze it at 51 s, you'll see, that's no "perfect head shot", the guy still has a face. 2 inches higher or to the left it's a miss.

and this is the second

https://twitter.com/i/status/1298520602630688768

That's pretty clear self defense - those guys were mobbing him, and he could reasonably expect to get beaten to death...

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 07:05 PM
Remember they claimed the same crap about the cop in minnesota. Need a fact-check.

The guy posted video from the event on January 30th to his Tik Tok

https://www.tiktok.com/@kylerittenhouse33/video/6787960032760761606?lang=en

pad300
08-26-2020, 07:05 PM
Who cares if they wear out their welcome? The protests aren't about getting people on their side, its about getting justice and affecting policy/ society changes. They have a very good chance at doing that, technically they already have.

Maybe you're not paying attention, but the other side of the argument is starting to show up, and they believe in rifles...

ducks
08-26-2020, 07:05 PM
Trump passed the criminal reform bill

Biden in 1994 made it it worse for the blacks

ducks
08-26-2020, 07:06 PM
The guy posted video from the event on January 30th to his Tik Tok

https://www.tiktok.com/@kylerittenhouse33/video/6787960032760761606?lang=en

Lol you love china

ZeusWillJudge
08-26-2020, 07:12 PM
And why would he be attacked like that? Do you think he was just chilling minding his own businesses, or maybe, just maybe, and I'm going on a limb here, the guy went there and started to instigate shit?


Seriously? Some people have a right to be there, with guns, burning shit... but some people don't have a right to be there? So when they decided to try and stomp his ass for being there, was that "peaceful protest"? The guy with the Glock chasing him... did he bring that to protest peacefully?

Idiot.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 07:18 PM
Here's what I think:

The kid is a Trump supporter.
The kid shouldn't have been there.
This is still self defense.
He's still going to be found guilty of gun charges and crossing state lines with that weapon.
Wisconsin is going to vote Trump because of this.
Polls have closed to dead even the past week after Biden was up double digits and these riots are the main reason.
The NBA boycott is going to make their ratings fall further.
People are stupid.
People do things they think are going to further their 'cause' but it actually works against their 'cause' (although I'm just repeating myself now).

These aren't statements about what I support. These are statements about what I see and my opinion of their results... no, I did not vote for Tump in 2016.

ducks
08-26-2020, 07:27 PM
What job other then NBA can people decide late in the day not to show up and not go to work without getting their ass fired ?

ducks
08-26-2020, 07:31 PM
Blake had knife in car when Kenosha cop shot him: Wisconsin DOJ

RD2191
08-26-2020, 07:41 PM
You can't claim self defense if you drove in from out of state with a gun looking for a fight. :lol

Joseph Kony
08-26-2020, 07:50 PM
Trump passed the criminal reform bill

Biden in 1994 made it it worse for the blacks

:lmao "the blacks"

hater
08-26-2020, 07:51 PM
:lmao "the blacks"

:lmao cucks still thinks you can buy a slave on ebay

Russ
08-26-2020, 07:51 PM
Here's what I think:

The kid is a Trump supporter. . . .

Wisconsin is going to vote Trump because of this. . . .

People do things they think are going to further their 'cause' but it actually works against their 'cause' . . . .

Please tell me how this analysis adds up . . .

K...
08-26-2020, 07:52 PM
Close this thread please. It will not be a good discussion and is not relevant to the spurs off season

hater
08-26-2020, 07:53 PM
You can't claim self defense if you drove in from out of state with a gun looking for a fight. :lol

:lmao when you go to a protest with a semi automatic and are surprised shit happened :lol

RD2191
08-26-2020, 07:57 PM
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DeRozan m8
08-26-2020, 08:16 PM
Its like he was trying to suicide by cop or something....why would you behave that dumb if you didn't want to die?

pad300
08-26-2020, 08:18 PM
You can't claim self defense if you drove in from out of state with a gun looking for a fight. :lol

I'm pretty sure he will say he wasn't looking for a fight, just prepared for trouble, which is legal (open carry of long guns is legal in Wisconsin, I believe). And "drove in from out of state" is putting things on the worst light possible - he lives all of 10 minutes from Kenosha (it's on the Wisconsin - Illinois border), and it's probably where his family buy their groceries...

Russ
08-26-2020, 08:20 PM
I'm pretty sure he will say he wasn't looking for a fight, just prepared for trouble, which is legal (open carry of long guns is legal in Wisconsin, I believe).

Just "standing his ground" no doubt . . .

cd021
08-26-2020, 08:22 PM
If you think Biden is doing anything to improve your situation you are gravely mistaken. These guys are just using you for a quick vote. Watch... when he's in charge he'll go back to doing what he'd done the last 40+ years. Nothing but promises. Things don't change at the snap of a finger. Even if they pass laws... I guaranty blacks will still be killing blacks in Chicago. (A far bigger issue!) You've heard this before.. it takes the INDIVIDUAL to spark enduring change.

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Unless all of the current elected officials at all levels get voted out and the ones voted in are in line with your thinking... you damn right you don't want to wear out your welcome. Just think man, all those people that are the target of protesters that just sit there and take it. Looks like they are cowering and submitting to the mob. Once people get over the novelty of this uprising and start to form counter mobs then it will all go to shit. And, more than likely the same people will remain in office. At this point while BLM is making some progress they better not get too greedy.

I personally think they are not out for equality but for revenge.

lol the "what about chicago?" talking point is played out tbh. Black people are trying to stop the violence in Chicago and also trying to stop police from killing them. Its not an either/ or situation. They can and have been doing both. Black people living in high crime areas trust the criminals about as much as the police-- as in that they don't. That's literally the problem.

There is already legislation on the table for sweeping police reform changes, if Dems win the senate and it passes both chambers then Biden will obviously sign it.

How is BLM being greedy? Just because some violent people, in a much larger group, are fucking shit up, doesn't mean the movement is being greedy.

How are they out for revenge? Their literally demanding that black people be treated fairly, that's a pretty bare bones demand on its surface, when you think about it.

If there are mobs that come after protestors, then that literally makes the protestors look better. Especially if its the same kinda of protestors that came to Charlottesville or stormed the statehouse in Michigan.

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 08:27 PM
I'm pretty sure he will say he wasn't looking for a fight, just prepared for trouble, which is legal (open carry of long guns is legal in Wisconsin, I believe). And "drove in from out of state" is putting things on the worst light possible - he lives all of 10 minutes from Kenosha (it's on the Wisconsin - Illinois border), and it's probably where his family buy their groceries...

LOL acting like it's just a short walk or something. Yeah they don't have grocery stores in Antioch, Illinois.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 08:30 PM
I'm pretty sure he will say he wasn't looking for a fight, just prepared for trouble, which is legal (open carry of long guns is legal in Wisconsin, I believe). And "drove in from out of state" is putting things on the worst light possible - he lives all of 10 minutes from Kenosha (it's on the Wisconsin - Illinois border), and it's probably where his family buy their groceries...
He's 17, the legal age to own a gun in Wisconsin and Illinois is 18 if I'm reading correctly. Also I'm sure he broke some sort of law crossing a firearm that he owns illegally across state lines. As for the self defense angle, I don't buy it. If it was self defense what was he doing in the middle of the street interacting with protesters? Supposedly he was supposed to be guarding a gas station or some bullshit like that.

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 08:34 PM
He's 17, the legal age to own a gun in Wisconsin and Illinois is 18 if I'm reading correctly. Also I'm sure he broke some sort of law crossing a firearm that he owns illegally across state lines. As for the self defense angle, I don't buy it. If it was self defense what was he doing in the middle of the street interacting with protesters? Supposedly he was supposed to be guarding a gas station or some bullshit like that.

Will be funny if his parents bought him that rifle and they get to face charges for a straw purchase.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 08:38 PM
Will be funny if his parents bought him that rifle and they get to face charges for a straw purchase.
Would be nice to see :lol

cd021
08-26-2020, 08:39 PM
Maybe you're not paying attention, but the other side of the argument is starting to show up, and they believe in rifles...

Then it'll look like Charlottesville. As someone who lives close to Charlottesville, those types of protestors who carry AR-15's and confederate flags tend to be far less popular than any BLM protestors. That would be a specular backfire- no pun intended.

GAustex
08-26-2020, 08:46 PM
Protocol of this site is that this thread is moved to political forum

Dejounte
08-26-2020, 08:46 PM
https://twitter.com/inminivanhell/status/1298673390165692416?s=19

mo7888
08-26-2020, 08:54 PM
Please tell me how this analysis adds up . . .

Because the violence is scaring them and pushing them away from democrats that they see as pro-riots. The polls are showing that with the shift over the past few days.

exstatic
08-26-2020, 08:56 PM
I don’t know if that is true, but he is someone that was part of a youth police club and supports the men in blue. Is that strictly a right wing position? I don’t know. I think that’s stereotyping, which is what the BLM is against, right?

The Boogaloo Bois are a youth Police club?

DAF86
08-26-2020, 08:58 PM
Seriously? Some people have a right to be there, with guns, burning shit... but some people don't have a right to be there? So when they decided to try and stomp his ass for being there, was that "peaceful protest"? The guy with the Glock chasing him... did he bring that to protest peacefully?

Idiot.

Why falling so easily for the personal attack son? That speaks poorly of you, tbh. Anyways, I'm not saying there's an innocent side here, like I said: both parties are wrong. If instead of peacefuly protesting, you are ruining shit up, you are a stupid deliquent, and if you are a moron that needs to go with a fucking machine gun just to stir shit up, you are a fucking stupid ass deliquent too, and now, a murderer.

Russ
08-26-2020, 08:58 PM
Because the violence is scaring them and pushing them away from democrats that they see as pro-riots. The polls are showing that with the shift over the past few days.

Exactly. But you're not addressing (perhaps even confirming) my original point . . .

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:02 PM
Now that’s the way to look at it. Need 2020 to be done ASAP!you think things are magically going to get better in 2021?

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:09 PM
lol the "what about chicago?" talking point is played out tbh. Black people are trying to stop the violence in Chicago and also trying to stop police from killing them. Its not an either/ or situation. They can and have been doing both. Black people living in high crime areas trust the criminals about as much as the police-- as in that they don't. That's literally the problem.

There is already legislation on the table for sweeping police reform changes, if Dems win the senate and it passes both chambers then Biden will obviously sign it.

How is BLM being greedy? Just because some violent people, in a much larger group, are fucking shit up, doesn't mean the movement is being greedy.

How are they out for revenge? Their literally demanding that black people be treated fairly, that's a pretty bare bones demand on its surface, when you think about it.

If there are mobs that come after protestors, then that literally makes the protestors look better. Especially if its the same kinda of protestors that came to Charlottesville or stormed the statehouse in Michigan.

Here's a simple solution to keep cops from killing them. Stop committing crimes!

Chinook
08-26-2020, 09:10 PM
Here's a simple solution to keep cops from killing them. Stop committing crimes!

That you think cops are supposed to kill criminals is basically the actual problem.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 09:13 PM
Exactly. But you're not addressing (perhaps even confirming) my original point . . .

What was your original point?

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:18 PM
Here's a simple solution to keep cops from killing them. Stop committing crimes!where did I say I want cops to kill them? I said it's a solution and it is a solution is it not? And here is another one. If you do commit a crime man up and don't be a pussy and fight with the cops when it's time to go to jail.

Chinook
08-26-2020, 09:21 PM
where did I say I want cops to kill them? I said it's a solution and it is a solution is it not? And here is another one. If you do commit a crime man up and don't be a pussy and fight with the cops when it's time to go to jail.

Nah. Cops aren't forces of nature. They are people, theoretically those who should be held to a higher standard. Basically every other country that isn't a totalitarian shithole can avoid having their cops killing folks on the regular. Somehow committing crimes isn't a death sentence for those folks. Neither is resisting arrest or fighting cops.

pad300
08-26-2020, 09:22 PM
Then it'll look like Charlottesville. As someone who lives close to Charlottesville, those types of protestors who carry AR-15's and confederate flags tend to be far less popular than any BLM protestors. That would be a specular backfire- no pun intended.

Maybe you should start counting noses. Charlottesville was supposed to be a national convention of the neo-Nazis; they were able to put less than 300 on the ground. The "Kenosha Guard" say they had "We are mobilizing tonight and have about 3,000 RSVP’s" for a local riot. These aren't neo-nazis, they're people who don't want their town set on fire. Are they willing to start shooting? Maybe... I don't think the american left has any idea what they are inciting with these riots...

DAF86
08-26-2020, 09:23 PM
where did I say I want cops to kill them? I said it's a solution and it is a solution is it not? And here is another one. If you do commit a crime man up and don't be a pussy and fight with the cops when it's time to go to jail.

Criminals are criminals, they can't be held to any kind of standard. Cops, on the other hand, must be held responsible for everything they do. Circumstances must be pretty out of the ordinary for them to have to kill a person and in most of these recent killings they weren't. So you know what the best and most simple solution to stop police brutality is? For cops to start performing their job like they are suppossed to do it.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:25 PM
Nah. Cops aren't forces of nature. They are people, theoretically those who should be held to a higher standard. Basically every other country that isn't a totalitarian shithole can avoid having their cops killing folks on the regular. Somehow committing crimes isn't a death sentence for those folks. Neither is resisting arrest or fighting cops. Here's another solution. Don't sexually assault under age girls and the PO PO won't take you to jail but we know how you leftist love pesos.

Chinook
08-26-2020, 09:27 PM
Here's another solution. Don't sexually assault under age girls and the PO PO won't take you to jail but we know how you leftist love pesos.

Try that ad homenim shit somewhere else. This isn't an action movie. The point of a justice system is to punish people. That's not the point of a cop. Again, that you don't seem to get that is the main problem here.

Russ
08-26-2020, 09:35 PM
What was your original point?

Okay . . .

Here's what I think:

The kid is a Trump supporter. . . .

Wisconsin is going to vote Trump because of this. . . .

People do things they think are going to further their 'cause' but it actually works against their 'cause' . . . .

Please tell me how this analysis adds up . . .

My point was, you were not correct -- a radical actor did do something that actually benefited his cause. But while you were referring to the protesters, you're statement only made sense when looking at the young Trump supporter . . .

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:38 PM
Try that ad homenim shit somewhere else. This isn't an action movie. The point of a justice system is to punish people. That's not the point of a cop. Again, that you don't seem to get that is the main problem here.No, the main problem is you don't believe there is such a thing as self accountability. Everything is always someone else's fault. Stop shooting, pulling weapons and fighting with the cops when it's time to go to jail and you won't get shot. It's that simple. The cops ain't just showing up there they're being called to the crap.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 09:40 PM
Okay . . .


Please tell me how this analysis adds up . . .

My point was, you were not correct -- a radical actor did do something that actually benefited his cause. But while you were referring to the protesters, you're statement only made sense when looking at the young Trump supporter . . .

I see your point...you are equating 'Wisconsin is going to vote Trump because of this' as the 'this' being the kid shooting the two rioters.... i meant 'this' as being the riots and destruction in general. I should have been more clear about that.

Chinook
08-26-2020, 09:44 PM
No, the main problem is you don't believe there is such a thing as self accountability. Everything is always someone else's fault. Stop shooting, pulling weapons and fighting with the cops when it's time to go to jail and you won't get shot. It's that simple. The cops ain't just showing up there they're being called to the crap.

Nope. You listed a bunch of things for which cops are still not justified in killing people for. I have no idea why you think cops need to be thought of as rabid dogs that everyone else needs to figure out how to deal with, but they're literally paid to be rational actors who are only supposed to use their power to kill when absolutely necessarily. Until folks like you get it out of your heads that some people don't just "need killing", we're going to keep having a fucked up country. You can't even stay on your point. You've been sliding from "committing crimes" to "sexually assaulting underage girls" to "shooting, pulling weapons and fighting with the cops". Next thing you know, you're going to slide to, "If you have a gun pointed at a little kid's head, and you're claiming you're going to hold up a school if you don't get shot right this instant".

Fuck, man, just say you want the cops to kill black people. Just say that instead of trying to retroactively justify cops panicking and using deadly force when it wasn't required.

FkLA
08-26-2020, 09:46 PM
You can't claim self defense if you drove in from out of state with a gun looking for a fight. :lol

Of course you can. And there's no proof he went there looking to shoot anybody. Its possible he's just a right wing nut that wanted to flex his "patriotism" and second amendment rights.

This is clearly self defense, imo.

K...
08-26-2020, 09:51 PM
Back on topic: LeBron and the clippers want a full season boycott. I think basketball is over. I'd compromise, give the players a 2 week reprieve from the bubble, 2 weeks back, and then single elim to end season

RD2191
08-26-2020, 09:55 PM
Of course you can. And there's no proof he went there looking to shoot anybody. Its possible he's just a right wing nut that wanted to flex his "patriotism" and second amendment rights.

This is clearly self defense, imo.
No, it isn't. If witnesses are to be believed, he shot someone first which is the reason they started chasing him. Also, did you miss the part where him having a gun was illegal?

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 09:57 PM
Nope. You listed a bunch of things for which cops are still not justified in killing people for. I have no idea why you think cops need to be thought of as rabid dogs that everyone else needs to figure out how to deal with, but they're literally paid to be rational actors who are only supposed to use their power to kill when absolutely necessarily. Until folks like you get it out of your heads that some people don't just "need killing", we're going to keep having a fucked up country. You can't even stay on your point. You've been sliding from "committing crimes" to "sexually assaulting underage girls" to "shooting, pulling weapons and fighting with the cops". Next thing you know, you're going to slide to, "If you have a gun pointed at a little kid's head, and you're claiming you're going to hold up a school if you don't get shot right this instant".

Fuck, man, just say you want the cops to kill black people. Just say that instead of trying to retroactively justify cops panicking and using deadly force when it wasn't required.dude you are disgusting for suggesting that I want black people killed. It's not a matter of someone deserving to die it's a matter of cops being able to protect themselves. Sounds like you're the one that wants people to get killed. So any time a cop gets called to a crime the perpetrator should just kill the cops? Wow! You are sick.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 09:58 PM
Back on topic: LeBron and the clippers want a full season boycott. I think basketball is over. I'd compromise, give the players a 2 week reprieve from the bubble, 2 weeks back, and then single elim to end season

I'm curious if the LA teams are going home or will they 'bend the knee' to all of the other teams that voted to continue?

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 09:58 PM
Protocol of this site is that this thread is moved to political forum

Why does anyone care about that?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:01 PM
Lakers and Clippers have voted to boycott the rest of the playoffs.

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 10:04 PM
you think things are magically going to get better in 2021?

No not really. But it would be great if it did.

I do think the biggest issue is this COVID crap that’s amplifying all the other bs. It looks like COVID may be fading some or at least it’s becoming somewhat controllable. A little normalcy will be extremely welcome.

FkLA
08-26-2020, 10:05 PM
No, it isn't. If witnesses are to be believed, he shot someone first which is the reason they started chasing him. Also, did you miss the part where him having a gun was illegal?

There's video of both shootings. Video shows that the first guy he shot charged him from behind.

Him being underage and illegally carrying a firearm doesn't negate the self defense and make it a murder.

paperboy77
08-26-2020, 10:06 PM
Lakers and Clippers have voted to boycott the rest of the playoffs.

They’re making things worse. Please just go back to shooting hoop.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:07 PM
There's video of both shootings. Video shows that the first guy he shot charged him from behind.

Him being underage and illegally carrying a firearm doesn't negate the self defense and make it a murder.

And one of the people he shot had a gun as well...

Not murder...but there will be other charges that will stick.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:08 PM
There's video of both shootings. Video shows that the first guy he shot charged him from behind.

Him being underage and illegally carrying a firearm doesn't negate the self defense and make it a murder.
Link?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:09 PM
Lakers and Clippers have voted to boycott the rest of the playoffs.

Sounding like they're walking that shit back

1298818188935917568

Chinook
08-26-2020, 10:09 PM
dude you are disgusting for suggesting that I want black people killed. It's not a matter of someone deserving to die it's a matter of cops being able to protect themselves. Sounds like you're the one that wants people to get killed. So any time a cop gets called to a crime the perpetrator should just kill the cops? Wow! You are sick.

Again, your ad homenim shit is lame. You said that the solution to stop black people being killed by the police is for them to stop doing crimes. Ignoring that bullshit racism there, there's no reason why simply doing a crime warrants a cop killing them. Then you slid over to someone being a rapist in an attempt to justify killing (using that stupid "some people need killing" action-movie shit). Then you slid to "Well if the cop's life is in danger." So why not start off with "Here's a simple solution to keep cops from killing them. Stop trying to kill cops!"? Well because that's not really your point. Your point is that black people are more naturally violent and they need to control their impulses so that the police (who apparently are under no obligation to control their own impulses) won't have to put them to sleep. 13:50, right?

Nah, man. Play that fucking "I don't want to people killed; you do" shit with someone else. It's not going to fly here. You missed your chance to take that stance when you showed your cards up front.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:09 PM
Link?

Every Angle + Timeline of Kyle Rittenhouse Kenosha Riot Shooting
https://youtu.be/rdMTghlrFiw

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:11 PM
Sounding like they're walking that shit back

1298818188935917568
:pctoss

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:12 PM
Every Angle + Timeline of Kyle Rittenhouse Kenosha Riot Shooting
https://youtu.be/rdMTghlrFiw
Something better than this retard tbh

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:15 PM
Something better than this retard tbh

I apologize for doing your work for you dipshit..

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:18 PM
I apologize for doing your work for you dipshit..
I'm not going to watch some fucking retard trying to explain some critical shit to me. Also, I never asked you for a link, you offered it.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:20 PM
I'm not going to watch some fucking retard trying to explain some critical shit to me. Also, I never asked you for a link, you offered it.

No...you asked someone else.... I'm just nice like that .... here's another more online with your attention span..maybe it'll work for you..

https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/videos-capture-wild-moments-that-led-to-deadly-shootings-in-kenosha/

Kurgan
08-26-2020, 10:22 PM
Will be funny if his parents bought him that rifle and they get to face charges for a straw purchase.

I think some states make exemptions if it's for spouses or children though.

Degoat
08-26-2020, 10:22 PM
Can cops please stop fucking shooting people for fucks sake!

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:24 PM
I think some states make exemptions if it's for spouses or children though.

I don't expect it to be an issue that he owns a rifle...i expect it will be an issue that he open carried as a 17 year old though.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:25 PM
No...you asked someone else.... I'm just nice like that .... here's another more online with your attention span..maybe it'll work for you..

https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/videos-capture-wild-moments-that-led-to-deadly-shootings-in-kenosha/
??? all this shows is murder? What am I supposed to be looking at here? It shows the kid shooting some guy in the head and then running away?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:27 PM
Also, what was this kid doing away from the gas station he was supposed to be "protecting", alone? What was he doing at the car dealership? Looks like straight up murder to me.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:28 PM
??? all this shows is murder? What am I supposed to be looking at here? It shows the kid shooting some guy in the head and then running away?
He was running from a guy chasing him because dead guy (correctly) assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Being afraid of a well-deserved ass beating is grounds for murder. Duh.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:28 PM
??? all this shows is murder? What am I supposed to be looking at here? It shows the kid shooting some guy in the head and then running away?

It shows him being chased...going down...and then as they jump him he fires...

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:32 PM
It shows him being chased...going down...and then as they jump him he fires...
Yes, but he was being chased because he shot a guy in the head. The video isn't clear on what/how it went down but it does show him shooting the guy in the head.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:33 PM
He was running from a guy chasing him because dead guy (correctly) assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Being afraid of a well-deserved ass beating is grounds for murder. Duh.
This guy would've been the perfect cop, fat ass starts shit, runs away, trips and then starts shooting when shit gets real.

pad300
08-26-2020, 10:34 PM
??? all this shows is murder? What am I supposed to be looking at here? It shows the kid shooting some guy in the head and then running away?

You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying fuck it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:35 PM
Yes, but he was being chased because he shot a guy in the head. The video isn't clear on what/how it went down but it does show him shooting the guy in the head.

The longer video (that you didn't want to watch) shows how it went down to a point. It does shows the guy that got shot in the head chasing him though...

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:37 PM
You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying fuck it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

Yep..

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:38 PM
dude he shot in the head was pedo i heard.
good riddance

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:38 PM
You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying fuck it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

So classy to shoot someone in the head and then call 911 to tell them to come pick up the body.

cd98
08-26-2020, 10:40 PM
We don’t know if this was self defense. Before the shooter was attacked by the two people he shot, the shooter shot and killed someone else. We don’t have any evidence yet that that shooting was self defense. If the two guys that were trying to catch the shooter did so bc he murdered the first person he shot, then it wasn’t self defense.

obviously it’s too early to know all the facts to conclude guilt or innocence.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:41 PM
You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying fuck it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.
I need a link to that video because I have't seen it. Also, he owned the gun illegally and had no reason to be there. What was he doing alone at the car dealership? Why was he wearing gloves? Seems premeditated to me. He went there looking to cause trouble.

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:41 PM
So classy to shoot someone in the head and then call 911 to tell them to come pick up the body.

yeah im gonna cry over this shithead
https://i.imgur.com/hkdHSp0.jpg

Budkin
08-26-2020, 10:42 PM
Sounds like the entire season is dead in 3,2,1...

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:42 PM
I mean, how threatened can you feel holding a rifle? :lol This kid would've been the perfect cop, if you're too pussy to defend yourself without a gun then what are you doing out in the street in the middle of a protest/riot?

pad300
08-26-2020, 10:43 PM
I need a link to that video because I have't seen it. Also, he owned the gun illegally and had no reason to be there. What was he doing alone at the car dealership? Why was he wearing gloves? Seems premeditated to me. He went there looking to cause trouble.

You got shown that link about a page back. You didn't want to watch it...

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:43 PM
yeah im gonna cry over this shithead
https://i.imgur.com/hkdHSp0.jpg
So he deserved to die because of a crime he committed 18 years ago?

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:43 PM
I mean, how threatened can you feel holding a rifle? :lol This kid would've been the perfect cop, if you're too pussy to defend yourself without a gun then what are you doing out in the street in the middle of a protest/riot?

dont bring skateboards to a gun fight

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:44 PM
So he deserved to die because of a crime he committed 18 years ago?

you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a fucking hero
chomos get the rope

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:45 PM
you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a fucking hero
chomos get the rope
What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:45 PM
you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a fucking hero
chomos get the rope

Hopefully the little faggot gets shanked

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:46 PM
What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

The 3rd guy...that's the one pointing a gun at the the kid right?

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:46 PM
What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

if you're so fucking stupid you run up and try to fight a guy with a rifle, after he shot and killed someone, the fuck did you expect to happen

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:47 PM
The 3rd guy...that's the one pointing a gun at the the kid right?
After he needlessly shot a guy who correctly assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Good guys with guns bad now.

Also, nice job glossing over 2nd guy.

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:47 PM
Hopefully the little faggot gets shanked

i bet you'll cum in your panties a few times to the thought

pad300
08-26-2020, 10:47 PM
What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

Those are clear and obvious self-defense. There is no legal right to pursue for non-cops; you can shoot a burglar you catch in the act, but you can't chase him down in the street afterwards.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:48 PM
Okay, so they were chasing him, (doesn't show why) is he a law enforcement official? How is the crowd supposed to know he isn't just some psycho with a gun? Could't the crowd say they also feared for their life and felt like they needed to defend themselves and disarm the kid running around with a rifle?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:48 PM
Hopefully the little faggot gets shanked
:lmao tbh

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:48 PM
After he needlessly shot a guy who correctly assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Good guys with guns bad now.

Also, nice job glossing over 2nd guy.

'Correctly assumed'.... your opinion ain't gonna cut it in court...

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:49 PM
if you're so fucking stupid you run up and try to fight a guy with a rifle, after he shot and killed someone, the fuck did you expect to happen
After you show up to a protest agitating angry people with a gun, shouldn't he have possibly expected an ass beating? He knew he might be confronted, he was, then he shot the first man, then was chased by the other two he shot. What did he think would happen?

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:49 PM
i cannot believe some retards get shot and now basketball is canceled
fuck this country and fuck this year man

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:50 PM
Those are clear and obvious self-defense. There is no legal right to pursue for non-cops; you can shoot a burglar you catch in the act, but you can't chase him down in the street afterwards.
Where's the legal right for shooting two people after you needlessly shot someone else in the head?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:50 PM
Those are clear and obvious self-defense. There is no legal right to pursue for non-cops; you can shoot a burglar you catch in the act, but you can't chase him down in the street afterwards.
How so? Say I'm walking home, see this kid shoot someone in the head, then start chasing him to try and disarm/stop him? Is it self defense if he shoots me in the head?

pad300
08-26-2020, 10:50 PM
Okay, so they were chasing him, (doesn't show why) is he a law enforcement official? How is the crowd supposed to know he isn't just some psycho with a gun? Could't the crowd say they also feared for their life and felt like they needed to defend themselves and disarm the kid running around with a rifle?

Open carry is legal in Wisconsin... If he's not actively committing a crime, your supposed to leave it up to the cops (good luck with the whole abolish the cops thing...).

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:50 PM
'Correctly assumed'.... your opinion ain't gonna cut it in court...
At least not as well as the video of him shooting the other two. :lol

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:51 PM
After you show up to a protest agitating angry people with a gun, shouldn't he have possibly expected an ass beating? He knew he might be confronted, he was, then he shot the first man, then was chased by the other two he shot. What did he think would happen?

probably didnt expect someone to attack him, because he has a legal and moral right to defend himself however he sees fit, no matter how much they dislike him or find him 'provocative'
esp since you know he has a fucking gun and clearly wasn't too pussy to use it

Roscoe P. Coltrane
08-26-2020, 10:51 PM
Again, your ad homenim shit is lame. You said that the solution to stop black people being killed by the police is for them to stop doing crimes. Ignoring that bullshit racism there, there's no reason why simply doing a crime warrants a cop killing them. Then you slid over to someone being a rapist in an attempt to justify killing (using that stupid "some people need killing" action-movie shit). Then you slid to "Well if the cop's life is in danger." So why not start off with "Here's a simple solution to keep cops from killing them. Stop trying to kill cops!"? Well because that's not really your point. Your point is that black people are more naturally violent and they need to control their impulses so that the police (who apparently are under no obligation to control their own impulses) won't have to put them to sleep. 13:50, right?

Nah, man. Play that fucking "I don't want to people killed; you do" shit with someone else. It's not going to fly here. You missed your chance to take that stance when you showed your cards up front. I did make my stance. And yes by not committing crimes will greatly reduce your chances of not getting killed by cops. It's simple logic and it goes for any race that commits crimes. Blacks lack any accountability. Everything is whites fault. Just think if he didn't molest an under aged girl and fight with police and then obviously going to get something out of his car he wouldn't be in the hospital now would he? For your information, they do the same shit to hispanics and whites. You are a sick individual thinking that I want black people killed and for you wanting cops to be killed. What about the black cop that shot the black guy that was chasing him with a knife a couple weeks ago. I bet you think that was justified because the cop was black don't you?

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:52 PM
How so? Say I'm walking home, see this kid shoot someone in the head, then start chasing him to try and disarm/stop him? Is it self defense if he shoots me in the head?

sure but dont cry when your assumption ends up being absolutely wrong and you get waxed trying to avenge a fucking violent chomo

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:53 PM
At least not as well as the video of him shooting the other two. :lol

The video is what is going to exonerate him on the murder charge. Gun charges will probably stick but the murder charge will probably be dropped before a trial...if it goes to trial because of some DA trying to make a political statement...he'll be found not guilty.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:53 PM
probably didnt expect someone to attack him, because he has a legal and moral right to defend himself however he sees fit, no matter how much they dislike him or find him 'provocative'
esp since you know he has a fucking gun and clearly wasn't too pussy to use it
He is too young to open carry in Wisconsin. He was a pussy who illegally brought a gun to agitate angry protesters and ended up shooting 3 people.

You know he's going to prison right?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:54 PM
Open carry is legal in Wisconsin... If he's not actively committing a crime, your supposed to leave it up to the cops (good luck with the whole abolish the cops thing...).
Open carry is legal for a minor? I thought that was only over the age of 18.

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:55 PM
He is too young to open carry in Wisconsin. He was a pussy who illegally brought a gun to agitate angry protesters and ended up shooting 3 people.

You know he's going to prison right?

open carry is illegal huh?
how about burning and looting private property? is that illegal too?
funny the types you find sympathy with, the absolute trash of humanity

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:55 PM
Open carry is legal for a minor? I thought that was only over the age of 18.
It's not.

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:55 PM
He is too young to open carry in Wisconsin. He was a pussy who illegally brought a gun to agitate angry protesters and ended up shooting 3 people.

You know he's going to prison right?

so is it okay to attack someone if they agitate you?
guess we'll have to seriously rewrite case law so we can pussy out for protestors

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
open carry is illegal huh?
how about burning and looting private property? is that illegal too?
funny the types you find sympathy with, the absolute trash of humanity
By law he was not allowed to have a gun there at his age in Wisconsin.

Law and order bad now?

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
He is too young to open carry in Wisconsin. He was a pussy who illegally brought a gun to agitate angry protesters and ended up shooting 3 people.

You know he's going to prison right?

He'll be found guilty on the illegal open carry violation... that's a class A misdemeanor in Wisconsin

dbestpro
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
Back to the original issue. I dont see how boycotting games that was sending the BLM message is now going to help support that message. True, lots of people decided not to watch but the ones that did got the message. Now no one gets the message and by in large no one cares.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
so is it okay to attack someone if they agitate you?
guess we'll have to seriously rewrite case law so we can pussy out for protestors
So it's okay to shoot two people who chased you after you shot someone else?

Fusternino
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
Open carry laws are opposed by most cops, BTW. You have a situation where an individual openly carrying is cause to think he's about to commit a crime but what's he's doing is perfectly legal. Totally worthless laws, tbh.

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:56 PM
i bet you'll cum in your panties a few times to the thought

As long as he leaves jail in a box

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:57 PM
As long as he leaves jail in a box

like i said, the absolute trash of humanity^

RD2191
08-26-2020, 10:57 PM
The video is what is going to exonerate him on the murder charge. Gun charges will probably stick but the murder charge will probably be dropped before a trial...if it goes to trial because of some DA trying to make a political statement...he'll be found not guilty.
How is shooting a person in the head not murder? They were chasing him, sure, but as I said, couldn't the dead guys defense be that he also feared for his life and was trying to disarm him? what about the other men that were chasing him? They hear gunshots and see a chubby dude running down the street with a rifle, try to stop him, then get shot, couldn't they also have feared for their life?

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:57 PM
So it's okay to shoot two people who chased you after you shot someone else?

yes, if you shot them in self defense.
duh

not okay to chase an armed guy with a skateboard apparently

FkLA
08-26-2020, 10:57 PM
After you show up to a protest agitating angry people with a gun, shouldn't he have possibly expected an ass beating? He knew he might be confronted, he was, then he shot the first man, then was chased by the other two he shot. What did he think would happen?

The law works for everyone not just people who share your views.

He was absolutely an agitator but that doesn't give anyone the legal right to stomp him out. Its why cops protect KKK members during their rallies. And its not like most of the BLM martyrs over the years have been upstanding citizens. Most of them had lengthy criminal record and were in the middle of committing a crime. DId they deserve what they got? Should we say "well what did they think would happen"?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:58 PM
Back to the original issue. I dont see how boycotting games that was sending the BLM message is now going to help support that message. True, lots of people decided not to watch but the ones that did got the message. Now no one gets the message and by in large no one cares.

Maybe they don't want to dance for white people who don't give a shit that police keep murdering them?

Fusternino
08-26-2020, 10:58 PM
In terms of the chasing him down-depends on the laws for citizen's arrest in WI.

mo7888
08-26-2020, 10:58 PM
How is shooting a person in the head not murder? They were chasing him, sure, but as I said, couldn't the dead guys defense be that he also feared for his life and was trying to disarm him? what about the other men that were chasing him? They hear gunshots and see a chubby dude running down the street with a rifle, try to stop him, then get shot, couldn't they also have feared for their life?

No that can't be the dead mans 'defense'... if the dead man were running away instead of after someone who was running away from him then you'd be correct...

pad300
08-26-2020, 10:59 PM
Where's the legal right for shooting two people after you needlessly shot someone else in the head?

So now you, and you alone, are the jury... Leftist, utterly incapable of considering any point of view besides their own.

Obviously the 17 year old thought he did need to shoot the first idiot. After that, yes, he's being mobbed, after what he believes is legal self-defence shooting, and he's still allowed to defend himself.

Heck, even if the first shooting was a murder, he's still allowed self-defense against a mob, because they aren't going to put him in a jail cell and give him a fair trial and sentencing, they're going to stomp him into strawberry jam on the street.

weeks
08-26-2020, 10:59 PM
How is shooting a person in the head not murder? They were chasing him, sure, but as I said, couldn't the dead guys defense be that he also feared for his life and was trying to disarm him? what about the other men that were chasing him? They hear gunshots and see a chubby dude running down the street with a rifle, try to stop him, then get shot, couldn't they also have feared for their life?

no because if they truly feared for their lives they wouldnt have chased down a dude with a weapon that just shot someone
are you on autopilot or something? reboot dude

ducks
08-26-2020, 10:59 PM
Black Lives Don't Matter to the Democrat party. If they did, Baltimore, Chicago, DC, etc. - areas controlled by Democrats for over half a century - wouldn't be in the shape they are in.

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 10:59 PM
like i said, the absolute trash of humanity^

Yes, the trash should leave the jail in a box

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:00 PM
So now you, and you alone, are the jury... Leftist, utterly incapable of considering any point of view besides their own.

Obviously the 17 year old thought he did need to shoot the first idiot. After that, yes, he's being mobbed, after what he believes is legal self-defence shooting, and he's still allowed to defend himself.

Heck, even if the first shooting was a murder, he's still allowed self-defense against a mob, because they aren't going to put him in a jail cell and give him a fair trial and sentencing, they're going to stomp him into strawberry jam on the street.
Ahh okay being judge, jury, and executioner is okay for right-wingers bringing guns to protests with the intention of agitating the angry people there. Got it.

pad300
08-26-2020, 11:01 PM
How so? Say I'm walking home, see this kid shoot someone in the head, then start chasing him to try and disarm/stop him? Is it self defense if he shoots me in the head?

Pretty much, yes. You have zero legal right of pursuit. If he was engaged in an ongoing crime, you could claim "Good Samaritan" and intervene.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:01 PM
Ahh okay being judge, jury, and executioner is okay for right-wingers bringing guns to protests with the intention of agitating the angry people there. Got it.

dont start shit wont be shit.
this is why people are allowed to bear arms. just ask the koreans during the rodney king riots. they didnt shit to anybody but they were attacked all the same.
big mistake

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:02 PM
So it's okay to shoot two people who chased you after you shot someone else?
That's what doesn't make any sense to me. How did they know it wasn't just some mass shooting situation that was about to pop off?

ducks
08-26-2020, 11:02 PM
So cancel the Playoffs is spurs streak alive

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:03 PM
Can we also stop with this "feared for their life" bullshit that always comes up in these situations? How the fuck does the person with the gun always seem to fear for their life when they're mowing down other unarmed people?

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:04 PM
Yes, the trash should leave the jail in a box

noooo not the poor chomos noooooo :cry :cry

i regret i have but one life to give

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:04 PM
Pretty much, yes. You have zero legal right of pursuit. If he was engaged in an ongoing crime, you could claim "Good Samaritan" and intervene.
But he has zero identifiers on him, how would one know if he was committing a crime or not? he had just shot a guy in the head.

FkLA
08-26-2020, 11:05 PM
That's what doesn't make any sense to me. How did they know it wasn't just some mass shooting situation that was about to pop off?

Bruh really? :lol

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:06 PM
But he has zero identifiers on him, how would one know if he was committing a crime or not? he had just shot a chomo in the head.

why would you chase down a guy running away from you, that has a gun, and then act surprised when he shot you

if they truly thought he was doing that, they should have shot them. one of the dudes had a pistol

pad300
08-26-2020, 11:06 PM
Open carry is legal for a minor? I thought that was only over the age of 18.

As a the hypothetical citizen standing around in the street, you may think he looks young for 18... but that's not a crime, and you can't assume that he's under 18 (nor can you enforce a demand that he produce ID for your convenience either...). You could reasonably call a cop to come and ask him for ID, but you can't just jump him.

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 11:06 PM
noooo not the poor chomos noooooo :cry :cry

i regret i have but one life to give

oh no poor outside agitator might have to face the consequences for killing two people

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:07 PM
That's what doesn't make any sense to me. How did they know it wasn't just some mass shooting situation that was about to pop off?
It doesn't make sense to you because their position is illogical and doesn't make sense period. If it was a liberal shooting up right-wingers invading state capitals at the "muh freedom" protests, and then was chased down before he shot more people, these same guys would be calling them heroes who gave their life to stop a madman.

The mental gymnastics they're doing to justify this is hilarious.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:07 PM
no because if they truly feared for their lives they wouldnt have chased down a dude with a weapon that just shot someone
are you on autopilot or something? reboot dude
Says who? And okay, but the guy waving his rifle around at unarmed protesters feared for his life, got it. :lol

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:08 PM
oh no poor outside agitator might have to face the consequences for killing two people

oh no two violent morons got waxed for attacking a kid (and really, really sucking at it)
dilate it off bitch

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:08 PM
Says who? And okay, but the guy waving his rifle around at unarmed protesters feared for his life, got it. :lol

if he feared for his life that's probably why he had the weapon, no? i mean, if there was a loud angry crowd threatening you or your friends or family, i bet you'd feel more comfortable with a weapon, right?

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:09 PM
Bruh really? :lol
Yes, really. It's dark, you hear gun shots, you see a white dude running down the street with a rifle, how are you supposed to know it isn't a mass shooter?

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 11:09 PM
oh no two violent morons got waxed for attacking a kid (and really, really sucking at it)
dilate it off bitch

That little faggot thought he was hard, now he gets to be the ###### in jail.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:10 PM
Yes, really. It's dark, you hear gun shots, you see a white dude running down the street with a rifle, how are you supposed to know it isn't a mass shooter?

if they thought that they should have shot him. they didn't.

FkLA
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
Can we also stop with this "feared for their life" bullshit that always comes up in these situations? How the fuck does the person with the gun always seem to fear for their life when they're mowing down other unarmed people?

How can you not grasp how the shooter could've feared for his life? Have you actually watched the videos?

I'm pretty sure they would've, at the very least, jumped the fuck out of him if he didn't start shooting after he hit the ground. If you're about to get jumped you can use deadly force.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
That little faggot thought he was hard, now he gets to be the ###### in jail.

hard? are you kidding? this kid has bigger balls than your wife's bull, you can fap to that jail fantasy later you faggot

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
if he feared for his life that's probably why he had the weapon, no? i mean, if there was a loud angry crowd threatening you or your friends or family, i bet you'd feel more comfortable with a weapon, right?

There was no one threatening his friends or family, he was a dumbass going to start shit.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
That little faggot thought he was hard, now he gets to be the ###### in jail.
He's definitely going to jail too. :lol

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
if he feared for his life that's probably why he had the weapon, no? i mean, if there was a loud angry crowd threatening you or your friends or family, i bet you'd feel more comfortable with a weapon, right?
I think you're forgetting the part where he drove across state lines to confront protesters. this didn't happen at his home. Nice try though.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
There was no one threatening his friends or family, he was a dumbass going to start shit.
He's from fucking Illinois . :lmao "his family".

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:11 PM
if you guys really think this murder one charge is gonna stick then you guys are like, optimistic. we'll just have to see how it plays out

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:12 PM
He's from fucking Illinois . :lmao "his family".

he was within 10 miles of his home i believe

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:12 PM
Intentional, reckless, whatever. He's going down for a homicide charge. Book it.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:12 PM
I think you're forgetting the part where he drove across state lines to confront protesters. this didn't happen at his home. Nice try though.

i live 2 blocks from a state line retard

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:12 PM
he was within 10 miles of his home i believe
So his family was in no danger. Got it. :tu

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:13 PM
How can you not grasp how the shooter could've feared for his life? Have you actually watched the videos?

I'm pretty sure they would've, at the very least, jumped the fuck out of him if he didn't start shooting after he hit the ground. If you're about to get jumped you can use deadly force.
Bruh, if you fear for your life when you have a gun and the other person does not then you're a big fat pussy. Also, he had zero reason to be there, he put himself in that situation.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:13 PM
Intentional, reckless, whatever. He's going down for a homicide charge. Book it.

he might but it'll be a great travesty. kid deserves a medal.

ducks
08-26-2020, 11:13 PM
The democracts just turned Wisconsin red

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:13 PM
i live 2 blocks from a state line retard
the fuck does that have to do with anything?

pad300
08-26-2020, 11:14 PM
But he has zero identifiers on him, how would one know if he was committing a crime or not? he had just shot a guy in the head.

You missed the word ongoing there, didn't you. Either that or you didn't understand it... He wasn't pointing the gun at other people. He certainly wasn't shooting it. He was leaving, pretty much as quickly as he could. He may have committed a crime a minute or so previously, but unless he's actively committing an ongoing crime, you don't get to go vigilante on his ass... If you do, he does have self-defense rights.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:14 PM
So his family was in no danger. Got it. :tu

unless you know why he was there or what he was doing, you're just assuming as you like to fit your pedocuck narrative.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:14 PM
That little faggot thought he was hard, now he gets to be the ###### in jail.
:rollin

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:14 PM
the fuck does that have to do with anything?
The protesters might have done a double somersault ten miles into Illinois and killed wannabe cop kid's family.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:15 PM
unless you know why he was there or what he was doing, you're just assuming as you like to fit your pedocuck narrative.
You should go back and read about this situation. Seems like you're behind.

Also, you assumed he was protecting family.

lol

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:15 PM
the fuck does that have to do with anything?

People say he drove across state lines like he traveled a long ass distance rather than what is basically his home neighborhood. it's meant to fucking suck in the normies to paint him worse than he is so you get creeps like bum jacking his tiny pecker in self righteous ecstasy

baseline bum
08-26-2020, 11:16 PM
hard? are you kidding? this kid has bigger balls than your wife's bull, you can fap to that jail fantasy later you faggot

So you're saying it takes balls to bring a gun to a skateboard fight? Doubt this little faggot will hold up well without his micropenis compensation tool.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:16 PM
You should go back and read about this situation. Seems like you're behind.

Also, you assumed he was protecting family.

lol

No, i didn't assume that. I was using that as an illustration of how the law works and how someone might feel threatened and need to be armed.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:17 PM
So you're saying it takes balls to bring a gun to a skateboard fight? Doubt this little faggot will hold up well without his micropenis compensation tool.

bro i fought in oif1 and i fought dudes willing to die and who knew how to shoot back, there's nothing hard about having a weapon or not. and there's nothing provocative about carrying one around either.

FkLA
08-26-2020, 11:17 PM
Yes, really. It's dark, you hear gun shots, you see a white dude running down the street with a rifle, how are you supposed to know it isn't a mass shooter?

Yeah, that's not how shit works. You dont get to make those kind of assumptions.

If I'm at a public place, hear gunshots, then see someone with a gun running I can't just shoot that guy and afterwards say "well I thought he was a mass shooter". That's ridiculous, man.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:18 PM
You missed the word ongoing there, didn't you. Either that or you didn't understand it... He wasn't pointing the gun at other people. He certainly wasn't shooting it. He was leaving, pretty much as quickly as he could. He may have committed a crime a minute or so previously, but unless he's actively committing an ongoing crime, you don't get to go vigilante on his ass... If you do, he does have self-defense rights.
As I said, it's the heat of the moment and you don't know wtf is going on. I can certainly see how some people might panic and believe its an active shooter situation.

Oh, but HE does have the right to be a vigilante? Because that's essentially what this was. He had no reason to be in the middle of a protest with a firearm that he could't legally own, engaging protesters.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:18 PM
The protesters might have done a double somersault ten miles into Illinois and killed wannabe cop kid's family.
:lmao

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:19 PM
No, i didn't assume that. I was using that as an illustration of how the law works and how someone might feel threatened and need to be armed.
he wasn't threatened. He went there to "protect businesses" with his right-wing militia buddies to agitate people and ended up getting into a situation where he ended up shooting 3 people and killing two.

If this was some liberal "protecting" state capitols back in April, shooting up rednecks with rifles telling Whitmer to open up, you would say he was a madman.

Shakril
08-26-2020, 11:19 PM
What i will never understand is one simple thing in the US compared to the rest of the Developed World: Why is it, that in the US everybody is so quick in shooting their guns. Police, Protestors, Milita, and so on. Why are you so trigger happy? Its nothing new, its happening for Decades now. Nowhere else in the World it happens on that frequency. Dont you value life? Its like you have no problem with killing. And instead of discussing: ok how can we improve the situation, you play the blame game betweeen left and right, which leads nowhere.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:19 PM
bro i fought in oif1 and i fought dudes willing to die and who knew how to shoot back, there's nothing hard about having a weapon or not. and there's nothing provocative about carrying one around either.
So what makes this kid tough again then?

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:20 PM
What i will never understand is one simple thing in the US compared to the rest of the Developed World: Why is it, that in the US everybody is so quick in shooting their guns. Police, Protestors, Milita, and so on. Why are you so trigger happy? Its nothing new, its happening for Decades now. Nowhere else in the World it happens on that frequency. Dont you value life? Its like you have no problem with killing. And instead of discussing: ok how can we improve the situation, you play the blame game betweeen left and right, which leads nowhere.
It's only okay when it's someone on the side you don't like.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:20 PM
he wasn't threatened. He went there to "protect businesses" with his right-wing militia buddies to agitate people and ended up getting into a situation where he ended up shooting 3 people and killing two.

If this was some liberal "protecting" state capitols back in April, shooting up rednecks with rifles telling Whitmer to open up, you would say he was a madman.

no, i really think the only madmen were the guys who attacked someone with a rifle who wasnt afraid to use it.
that was definitely stupid
and judging by their backgrounds they're accustomed to stupid violent behavior with shitty consequences.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:21 PM
So what makes this kid tough again then?

lot of people wont ever pull that trigger in the moment. even in combat most dudes dont actually fire their rifle in any meaningful way.
kid didnt blink.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:22 PM
Yeah, that's not how shit works. You dont get to make those kind of assumptions.

If I'm at a public place, hear gunshots, then see someone with a gun running I can't just shoot that guy and afterwards say "well I thought he was a mass shooter". That's ridiculous, man.
So you can't just say you feared for your life like this fat pussy did?

But no one was shooting at him, they were chasing him, he had a gun and had just shot someone. So what if the people that were running after him feared for their life? Chasing after someone doesn't automatically mean you're not scared.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:22 PM
What i will never understand is one simple thing in the US compared to the rest of the Developed World: Why is it, that in the US everybody is so quick in shooting their guns. Police, Protestors, Milita, and so on. Why are you so trigger happy? Its nothing new, its happening for Decades now. Nowhere else in the World it happens on that frequency. Dont you value life? Its like you have no problem with killing. And instead of discussing: ok how can we improve the situation, you play the blame game betweeen left and right, which leads nowhere.
Because here, people with guns seem to be the biggest pussies.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:23 PM
Chasing after someone doesn't automatically mean you're not scared.

:huh

pad300
08-26-2020, 11:25 PM
As I said, it's the heat of the moment and you don't know wtf is going on. I can certainly see how some people might panic and believe its an active shooter situation.

Oh, but HE does have the right to be a vigilante? Because that's essentially what this was. He had no reason to be in the middle of a protest with a firearm that he could't legally own, engaging protesters.

You really are a dipshit aren't you. I already discussed that the video shows him trying to RUN AWAY from the first antifa/BLM moron who CHASES HIM DOWN. That is not vigilantism you stupid moron...

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:25 PM
no, i really think the only madmen were the guys who attacked someone with a rifle who wasnt afraid to use it.
that was definitely stupid
and judging by their backgrounds they're accustomed to stupid violent behavior with shitty consequences.
And Kyle is 17 year old rube who unlawfully carried his gun to a place where, instead of protecting anyone, he killed two people while pretending to be a cop. He is not a mensa candidate himself, nor is he a hero, nor is he tough. He's a stupid kid who took two lives. Period.


Again if they were right-wingers who lost their lives taking down some mad BLM supporter who shot someone "protecting" a state capital at an "open up/muh freedom" protest in April, you would be completely fine with it. You would say they were heroes. You wouldn't call them madmen.

Admit it.

Custerdome
08-26-2020, 11:25 PM
So cancel the Playoffs is spurs streak alive

something Ali G would say

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:26 PM
You really are a dipshit aren't you. I already discussed that the video shows him trying to RUN AWAY from the antifa/BLM moron who CHASES HIM DOWN. That is not vigilantism you stupid moron...

dont bother. in his world, they can do whatever they want to you and you're the bad guy if you defend yourself. if you could reason with these people you wouldn't have to explain it to them.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:26 PM
lot of people wont ever pull that trigger in the moment. even in combat most dudes dont actually fire their rifle in any meaningful way.
kid didnt blink.
He wasn't brave. Just stupid. You would think you'd know the difference with your background.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:28 PM
And Kyle is 17 year old rube who unlawfully carried his gun to a place where, instead of protecting anyone, he killed two people while pretending to be a cop. He is not a mensa candidate himself, nor is he a hero, nor is he tough. He's a stupid kid who took two lives. Period.


Again if they were right-wingers who lost their lives taking down some mad BLM supporter who shot someone "protecting" a state capital at an "open up/muh freedom" protest in April, you would be completely fine with it. You would say they were heroes. You wouldn't call them madmen.

Admit it.

i think you're just making a bunch more assumptions, i always blame the aggressor side regardless. if the blm supporter is armed and not attacking anyone or flagging anyone with his weapon and someone throws something at him or attacks him, he should blow their fucking brains out. even if it's the damn pope
a drug dealer here got holed up in a hotel room and the cops got him cornered, they didnt identify themselves though and they shot out his window so he shot and killed one.
not guilty - and that's how it should be

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:30 PM
He wasn't brave. Just stupid. You would think you'd know the difference with your background.

i said tough. most of you are keyboard warriors that wouldn't even be there in the first place.
the guys who chased him down were brave, and retarded.

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:30 PM
You really are a dipshit aren't you. I already discussed that the video shows him trying to RUN AWAY from the first antifa/BLM moron who CHASES HIM DOWN. That is not vigilantism you stupid moron...
Vigilantism is the act of enacting perceived justice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice) summarily and without legal authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_authority).

The fat pussy stated he was there to do what cops weren't, aka taking the law into his own hands.


He was there acting as a vigilante, why else would he bring a gun to a protest? You really are one stupid fuck aren't you? Just admit you're a racist piece of shit that's okay with what this fat pussy did.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:31 PM
i think you're just making a bunch more assumptions, i always blame the aggressor side regardless. if the blm supporter is armed and not attacking anyone or flagging anyone with his weapon and someone throws something at him or attacks him, he should blow their fucking brains out. even if it's the damn pope


Does any third party reading weeks post believe this shit? :lmao You would not be on their side. I've seen your posting history.

TimDunkem
08-26-2020, 11:31 PM
i said tough. most of you are keyboard warriors that wouldn't even be there in the first place.
the guys who chased him down were brave, and retarded.
I'm a keyboard warrior because I disagree with you. Got it. :tu

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:31 PM
He wasn't brave. Just stupid. You would think you'd know the difference with your background.

also, how much more perfectly could my point be illustrated than by the fact that one of the dudes who got shot - gruesomely shot too, never use that arm again sadly - had a pistol himself and didn't use it.
its a lot harder to pull the trigger than you think, that's all im saying.

they were not unarmed.

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:32 PM
I'm a keyboard warrior because I disagree with you. Got it. :tu
not you specifically dont get your panties in a twist, i dont know anything about you. you know what im saying though

RD2191
08-26-2020, 11:32 PM
:huh
Not all people run like pussies, make sense?

weeks
08-26-2020, 11:33 PM
Does any third party reading weeks post believe this shit? :lmao You would not be on their side. I've seen your posting history.

okay so show me where ive posted something contrary to that?
you're kinda oh idk stereotyping me huh

but you're dead fucking wrong boyo. i hate cops and the feds more the protestors