Are the protests hurting Biden?

[ChumpDumper]

Karrin rooting for violence.

[Will Hunting]

Trumptards show up to Portland and it turns into a hellhole. You hate to see it.

[Reck]

Answer to OP

Yes

No even close.

you don’t read polls so you don’t know what you don’t know drunkie.

[DarrinS]

Shhh. Keep protesting/rioting

[DarrinS]

Trumptards show up to Portland and it turns into a hellhole. You hate to see it.

Summer of love, prior to that

[ChumpDumper]

Karrin rooting for violence.


Shhh. Keep protesting/riotingYep, Darrin's a piece of shit dead ender.

[Spurtacular]

It's officially a riot now :tu

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1300982050124685313?s=19

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

It's funny when the cucks can't placate these crazies. :lol

[Winehole23]

Answer to OP

YesUndetectable in today's polls.

[Winehole23]

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[spurraider21]

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biden has to continuously hammer home the message from his last speech about the trump riots... but he also has to provide an out to voters. explain HOW he plans to address the civil unrest.

[Reck]

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Hate to see it, eh?

[spurraider21]

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Hate to see it, eh?
those 51% of republicans are probably referring to anti-white racism tbh :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

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Hate to see it, eh?

I'd say no to that question too, it's a problem but it ain't a big problem. The class divide is much worse and while some of it is due to race, that's not the main cause.

[FrostKing]

Whatever happened to climate change

[Reck]

I'd say no to that question too, it's a problem but it ain't a big problem. The class divide is much worse and while some of it is due to race, that's not the main cause.

Maybe pre Trump. But post Trump racial tensions have definitely come to the forefront.

Majority of his supporters are racist and you even see it here without shame.

[spurraider21]

Whatever happened to climate change
nothing. still a massive issue that the incumbent has no intention of ever addressing (or even acknowledging)

Biden Announces $2 Trillion Climate Plan (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/biden-climate-plan.html)

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever happened to climate changeStill happening.

You hate to see it.

Why did you lie about being on a plane to Poland?

[FrostKing]

Still happening.

You hate to see it.

Why did you lie about being on a plane to Poland?
You are becoming a bit unhinged buddy. Let's pull it together for the stretch run.

[ChumpDumper]

You are becoming a bit unhinged buddy. Let's pull it together for the stretch run.Yeah, you tried that the last time I asked, buddy. Let's just answer the question.

So why did you lie about posting from a plane bound for Poland?

[FrostKing]

Maybe pre Trump. But post Trump racial tensions have definitely come to the forefront.

Majority of his supporters are racist and you even see it here without shame.
Feel fortunate that most whites consider the physical attacks just crime and not racism. Giving your people the benefit of the doubt.

We say mean shit online and you physically attack people

[Chris]

Maybe pre Trump. But post Trump racial tensions have definitely come to the forefront.

Majority of his supporters are racist and you even see it here without shame.

wow :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Feel fortunate that most whites consider the physical attacks just crime and not racism. Giving your people the benefit of the doubt.

We say mean shit online and you physically attack peopleIf you're going to cast that wide a net, you shoot up mosques, synagogues and temples murdering scores of people.

[ChumpDumper]

And Walmarts.

[FrostKing]

If you're going to cast that wide a net, you shoot up mosques, synagogues and temples murdering scores of people.
Which hasn't occurred in 2020.

Definitely saw a few separate clips of BLM harassing Christian churches in 2020

[Will Hunting]

those 51% of republicans are probably referring to anti-white racism tbh :lol
:lol was thinking the same thing when I read this poll. Not a chance most Republicans think racism against minorities is a major problem in this country.

[Reck]

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[FrostKing]

:lol was thinking the same thing when I read this poll. Not a chance most Republicans think racism against minorities is a major problem in this country.
Everyone is racist

Half the white population are feet washers.

So racist Whites are outnumbered by racist minorities in America

[Will Hunting]

Everyone is racist

Half the white population are feet washers.

So racist Whites are outnumbered by racist minorities in America
Thanks for proving my point.

[ChumpDumper]

Which hasn't occurred in 2020.

Definitely saw a few separate clips of BLM harassing Christian churches in 2020:lmao So history doesn't count for anything now?

Does Poland not have a history?

You killed cops in May.

Law and Order.

[Trainwreck2100]

Maybe pre Trump. But post Trump racial tensions have definitely come to the forefront.

Majority of his supporters are racist and you even see it here without shame.

It's garnered more attention maybe, but the racism been on the rise since obama, mostly because when a black man got elected the poor whites finally understood they were being fucked by the government, which the poor minorities already knew. Mexicans were the first targets of trump's campaign racism and we just sitting here now on the sidelines of this ebony ivory bullshit

[Reck]

CNN poll just out. Biden waxxing that ass.

Another likely voter poll instead of RV.

Riots are not a factor and race remain unchanged.

[Will Hunting]

Racial tensions have come to the forefront because both parties and the media would rather talk about race than have to talk about class. It’s the same reason abortion and gay marriage were at the forefront in 2004.

[Will Hunting]

CNN poll just out. Biden waxxing that ass.

Another likely voter poll instead of RV.

Riots are not a factor and race remain unchanged.
Can never write anything off in the world were in, but these polls are important because incumbents rarely gain support between when the conventions are over and Election Day. Pinning as much hope as Trump has pinned on the debates was such a shitty strategy, no incumbent in the last 70 years has ever gained ground during the debates :lol

[Reck]

Check that, my mistake, it was registered voters. The other polls are the Likely voters ones.

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[Trainwreck2100]

Can never write anything off in the world were in, but these polls are important because incumbents rarely gain support between when the conventions are over and Election Day. Pinning as much hope as Trump has pinned on the debates was such a shitty strategy, no incumbent in the last 70 years has ever gained ground during the debates :lol

every other word outta biden's mouth should be about the 200k dead americans to a virus Trump called a hoax. Can't gaff about blacks if he just sticks to that script

[Will Hunting]

every other word outta biden's mouth should be about the 200k dead americans to a virus Trump called a hoax. Can't gaff about blacks if he just sticks to that script
Exactly. He’s already made the statement about race and protests that he needs to make, he’s falling into the Hillary trap if he keeps engaging on the issue. He loses this election if he allows Trump to normalize COVID and 200k dead Americans by constantly changing the subject.

[Nathan89]

The entirety of the left didn't give a damn about the violent BLM and antifa rioters until the polls started to change. That's pathetic.

[Will Hunting]

As bad of a candidate as I think Biden is, retarded incels like Nathan makes me ready willing and able to vote for him and even help his campaign.

[Trainwreck2100]

Check that, my mistake, it was registered voters. The other polls are the Likely voters ones.

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even at +7 i still say it's 50/50 Trump just needs to shave a couple points to get the voter suppression in key districts to put him over the finish line

[Reck]

The entirety of the left didn't give a damn about the violent BLM and antifa rioters until the polls started to change. That's pathetic.

Did they change because of their respective convention or because of the riots?

You'd think if it was for the latter, polls would be showing that in spades. They aren't.

I hope Trump keeps doubling down on this new approach which is already shown to not be working.

[Nathan89]

As someone who despises media it is also quite wonderful that they have to eat shit after pushing "peaceful protest" propaganda for months.

[Will Hunting]

Did they change because of their respective convention or because of the riots?

You'd think if it was for the latter, polls would be showing that in spades. They aren't.

I hope Trump keeps doubling down on this new approach which is already shown to not be working.
I want him peddling more conspiracy theories. Joni Ernst just made her seat a lot more purple by repeating some retarded conspiracy about doctors inflating COVID deaths to get more money, would love to see a few more Republican Senators in vulnerable races peddle conspiracy theories too :lol

[Reck]

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This has been a shitty day if you're Trump.

[Will Hunting]

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This has been a shitty day if you're Trump.
:lmao Kelly up 17 points on MAGA McSally

[Ef-man]

The entirety of the left didn't give a damn about the violent BLM and antifa rioters until the polls started to change. That's pathetic.

:cry muh law n order :cry

:lmao

As if you really cared about the issue!

[Splits]

even at +7 i still say it's 50/50 Trump just needs to shave a couple points to get the voter suppression in key districts to put him over the finish line

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Democracy!

[ElNono]

those 51% of republicans are probably referring to anti-white racism tbh :lol

Remember when Barry was president, you didn't agree with my comment that racial tensions back then were fine, and there wasn't much of it?

I'd like to revisit that comment at this point it time...

[ElNono]

even at +7 i still say it's 50/50 Trump just needs to shave a couple points to get the voter suppression in key districts to put him over the finish line

Georgia accused of wrongfully purging nearly 200,000 from voter rolls: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514813-georgia-accused-of-wrongfully-purging-nearly-200000-from-voter-rolls

[spurraider21]

Remember when Barry was president, you didn't agree with my comment that racial tensions back then were fine, and there wasn't much of it?

I'd like to revisit that comment at this point it time...
:lol tbh... but in my defense didnt that come up after martin/zimmerman, michael brown, eric garner, etc. seemed to dominate headlines more than anything in the bush era, for instance, aside from katrina issues.

tho yeah it's gotten magnitudes worse

[Will Hunting]

Georgia accused of wrongfully purging nearly 200,000 from voter rolls: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514813-georgia-accused-of-wrongfully-purging-nearly-200000-from-voter-rolls
I've said it before, but if I were a black voter living in Atlanta and I saw this, it would only motivate me more to vote. I'd make sure I was registered and would crawl through shards of glass to cast a vote if I thought I was voting against someone trying to disenfranchise me. How do black voters not see this and blow a gasket?

[ElNono]

:lol tbh... but in my defense didnt that come up after martin/zimmerman, michael brown, eric garner, etc. seemed to dominate headlines more than anything in the bush era, for instance, aside from katrina issues.

tho yeah it's gotten magnitudes worse

Yeah, but it felt isolated to me back then... now it's a completely different story. Funny how some people like to call Barry a race-baiter but don't make the same claim with Trump. He's the ultimate baiter on almost every topic.

[ElNono]

I've said it before, but if I were a black voter living in Atlanta and I saw this, it would only motivate me more to vote. I'd make sure I was registered and would crawl through shards of glass to cast a vote if I thought I was voting against someone trying to disenfranchise me. How do black voters not see this and blow a gasket?

Some might be busy in the plantation, tbh...

[Will Hunting]

Yeah, but it felt isolated to me back then... now it's a completely different story. Funny how some people like to call Barry a race-baiter but don't make the same claim with Trump. He's the ultimate baiter on almost every topic.
His real issue was that he overcompensated and was too worried about tea baggers accusing him of being a race baiter.

[ElNono]

His real issue was that he overcompensated and was too worried about tea baggers accusing him of being a race baiter.

I just think you're always going to have that kind of back-assward white people that feel dinged by the black man, no matter what he says... there's plenty of those in here, tbh...

[Winehole23]

it's just a poll, but look at Wisconsin

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[ChumpDumper]

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This has been a shitty day if you're Trump.CORRECTION

North Carolina after all Trump double votes are counted:

Trump 61%

Biden 33%

[Will Hunting]

CORRECTION

North Carolina after all Trump double votes are counted:

Trump 61%

Biden 33%
Stupid of Trump to tip his hand on that, Soros and Bill Gates are working on a counter strategy as we speak.

[Winehole23]

Stupid of Trump to tip his hand on that, Soros and Bill Gates are working on a counter strategy as we speak.He always has to talk about it. He likes to taunt and tease. He is not tactful.

He likes to tell you what he's about to do.

[Winehole23]

Brazenness --> impunity --> Gloating ---> Cycle

[Will Hunting]

Another police shooting today in DC. Shit's about to get real down here.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1301305146719137792?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1301305146719137792?s=20Get your shit together, whitey.

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1301305146719137792?s=20
If white people are OK with getting killed by cops that doesn’t mean black people need to be fine with it too. It’s ridiculous how quick cops in this country are to use lethal force.

[Ef-man]

Get your shit together, whitey.

Police shooting deaths have been trending down for whites. Unknowns and other races have been constant.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

[DMC]

If white people are OK with getting killed by cops that doesn’t mean black people need to be fine with it too. It’s ridiculous how quick cops in this country are to use lethal force.

I think you missed the point. The narrative is that blacks are unfairly targeted by cops and at a higher rate than whites. Do you think the protests are for all unjustified police shootings, or just those against black people?

[FrostKing]

If white people are OK with getting killed by cops that doesn’t mean black people need to be fine with it too. It’s ridiculous how quick cops in this country are to use lethal force.
No races protest except blacks. Everyone else integrated successfully.

Entire situation is comical knowing how little blacks treasure life considering the violence in their own communities.

[ChumpDumper]

No races protest except blacks. :lol Whitey protested about masks.

[Winehole23]

:lol Whitey protested about masks.Carried guns to disrupt open sessions at two state legislatures, forcing them to close temporarily.

[Ef-man]

No races protest except blacks. Everyone else integrated successfully.

Entire situation is comical knowing how little blacks treasure life considering the violence in their own communities.

You are very articulate and well spoken for someone who aint racists.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Carried guns to disrupt open sessions at two state legislatures, forcing them to close temporarily.They can't assimilate to normal civil society with their failed ideology.

[FrostKing]

They can't assimilate to normal civil society with their failed ideology.
My post was in reference to the topic but you guys ran with it.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1301305146719137792?s=20

What about death by knee to the neck?

[Will Hunting]

I think you missed the point. The narrative is that blacks are unfairly targeted by cops and at a higher rate than whites. Do you think the protests are for all unjustified police shootings, or just those against black people?
I’m well aware of the point, I just think the argument “Well white people get killed by cops too and we’re not bitching about it!” is retarded on numerous levels.

[ChumpDumper]

I’m well aware of the point, I just think the argument “Well white people get killed by cops too and we’re not bitching about it!” is retarded on numerous levels.Yep, there is more than one killing of white guys that should be protested tbh. Why whitey isn't upset -- who knows? Maybe we're just more meek and docile as a race.

[Winehole23]

Carried guns to disrupt open sessions at two state legislatures, forcing them to close temporarily.Pretty sure they weren't protesting police violence against whites. The police were there to protect them and bond with them.

Final answer.

[FrostKing]

Yep, there is more than one killing of white guys that should be protested tbh. Why whitey isn't upset -- who knows? Maybe we're just more meek and docile as a race.
We are less group think and practice more self responsibility.

[ChumpDumper]

We are less group think and practice more self responsibility.Meek and docile. Servile, even.

[Will Hunting]

Meek and docile. Servile, even.

Cops kill 200+ white people a year - white people response: :cry blue lives matter :cry

[FrostKing]

Meek and docile. Servile, even.
Okay have it your way. Probably a symptom of growing up in a healthy nuclear family.

[FrostKing]

Cops kill 200+ white people a year - white people response: :cry blue lives matter :cry
I'm not gonna cut off my own nose because of something that happened to a white person on the other side of the country or even overseas. Group think. Why blacks overseas act & dress like black americans even though they've never stepped foot in America.

[Will Hunting]

I'm not gonna cut off my own nose because of something that happened to a white person on the other side of the country or even overseas. Group think. Why blacks don't integrate overseas and act & dress like black americans even though they've never stepped foot in America.
Judging from how you're using it, you have no idea what the term groupthink means.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not gonna cut off my own nose because of something that happened to a white person on the other side of the country or even overseas. Group think. Why blacks don't integrate overseas and act & dress like black americans even though they've never stepped foot in America.:lmao Your panties are in a bunch 24/7 about what you think is happening to white people on the other side of the country or even overseas.

[Ef-man]

We are less group think and practice more self responsibility.

Guess KKK and neo-Nazis did not get the memo

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

I like how Frostking claims white people are "independent" but he's the first one to take credit for the achievements of white Europeans from hundreds of years ago.

Anytime something of consequence is accomplished by a white people he views it as a collective achievement for white people, but now he's claiming to have no interest in what other white people are up to :lol

[Winehole23]

Pretty sure they weren't protesting police violence against whites. The police were there to protect them and bond with them.

Final answer.Dry run for the eventual right wing insurrection.

Idaho, maybe?

[FrostKing]

Judging from how you're using it, you have no idea what the term groupthink means.
They lack individual responsibility. Black Americans to a T.

[ChumpDumper]

Pretty sure they weren't protesting police violence against whites. The police were there to protect them and bond with them.

Final answer.Final solution, you mean.

[Ef-man]

I like how Frostking claims white people are "independent" but he's the first one to take credit for the achievements of white Europeans from hundreds of years ago.

Anytime something of consequence is accomplished by a white people he views it as a collective achievement for white people, but now he's claiming to have no interest in what other white people are up to :lol

Yup, he forgets history and how some “white” groups considered other “white” groups as sub-human.

Anyone remember the german visit to Czechoslovakia in 1940s? How did that turn out?

Was it a great collective achievement?

[Will Hunting]

They lack individual responsibility. Black Americans to a T.
Lacking personal responsibility has nothing to do with the term groupthink.

[FrostKing]

Guess KKK and neo-Nazis did not get the memo

:lmao
Exactly. Whites in America are fractured.

[FrostKing]

Lacking personal responsibility has nothing to do with the term groupthink.
"the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility."

[ChumpDumper]

They lack individual responsibility. Black Americans to a T.

https://media.giphy.com/media/h7poIVSJYrs323ZPuu/giphy.gif

[Chris]

I just think you're always going to have that kind of back-assward white people that feel dinged by the black man, no matter what he says... there's plenty of those in here, tbh...

This is racist.

[Will Hunting]

Yup, he forgets history and how some “white” groups considered other “white” groups as sub-human.

Anyone remember the german visit to Czechoslovakia in 1940s? How did that turn out?

Was it a great collective achievement?
Frostking's role model Hitler thought Pollacks were an even lower form of humanity than Der Fuhrer thought black people were :lol

[Reck]

This is racist.

I think you're due for another avatar change.

[Ef-man]

Of course i am racist.

fify :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Frostking's role model Hitler thought Pollacks were an even lower form of humanity than Der Fuhrer thought black people were :lolPoland didn't win a single gold medal in the Berlin Olympics.

[Will Hunting]

"the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility."
What decisions are black people making as a group? You think they're making a coordinated effort to get killed by cops?

[Ef-man]

Frostking's role model Hitler thought Pollacks were an even lower form of humanity than Der Fuhrer thought black people were :lol

Czechs, slavs in general.

But hitler did like Norwegians. Go figure, they hated him.

[Will Hunting]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment


In October 1939, Directive No.1306 of Nazi Germany's Propaganda Ministry stated: "It must be made clear even to the German milkmaid that Polishness equals subhumanity. Poles, Jews and gypsies are on the same inferior level...

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

:lmao if Hitler were alive today, he'd think FrostKing was the equivalent of a gypsy, no matter how much Frostking worshipped and believed in national socialism.

[Ef-man]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment



:lmao


Oh, no!

FK must have fallen asleep that day in history class.

:lol

[Winehole23]

I tease FK for a lot of things. Not for being Polish, tho.

YMMV

[Blake]

We are less group think and practice more self responsibility.

Trump is completely self think and practice more in blaming everyone else

[FrostKing]

:lmao if Hitler were alive today, he'd think FrostKing was the equivalent of a gypsy, no matter how much Frostking worshipped and believed in national socialism.
Haha I don't like Hitler or the Nazis

[Winehole23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment



:lmaothe association with Slavs was lethal to the Poles too.

[FrostKing]

He used German superiority to unite the fractured Germanic people. This superiority was proven false in his attempt to conquer the USSR.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1301563396630949888?s=20

Even with video evidence these people won't be satisfied.

[spurraider21]

I think you missed the point. The narrative is that blacks are unfairly targeted by cops and at a higher rate than whites. Do you think the protests are for all unjustified police shootings, or just those against black people?
a lot of people are generally protesting against police brutality. defund the police doesnt just mean you defund them when they patrol black areas, for instance

[spurraider21]

Yup, he forgets history and how some “white” groups considered other “white” groups as sub-human.

Anyone remember the german visit to Czechoslovakia in 1940s? How did that turn out?

Was it a great collective achievement?
the english did not consider the irish "white" and used pseudo science about skull shapes as proof that irish were a lower breed of human :lol

[Will Hunting]

the english did not consider the irish "white" and used pseudo science about skull shapes as proof that irish were a lower breed of human :lol
Ironically a lot white supremacists in the US are descendants of Scottish Highlanders who the British Empire sent to go live in the colonial hinterlands as part of what the Brits viewed as an ethnic cleansing exercise :lol

[spurraider21]

Ironically a lot white supremacists in the US are descendants of Scottish Highlanders who the British Empire sent to go live in the colonial hinterlands as part of what the Brits viewed as an ethnic cleansing exercise :lol
not to mention that in general, the whole "white european" classification is really an american phenomenon. all of european history is different people of europe hating one another. its not some shared culture/heritage at all. but racist americans talk about preserving "white european culture"

[FrostKing]

not to mention that in general, the whole "white european" classification is really an american phenomenon. all of european history is different people of europe hating one another. its not some shared culture/heritage at all. but racist americans talk about preserving "white european culture"
Western Civilization is white European culture

[spurraider21]

Western Civilization is white European culture
what about black europeans

[FrostKing]

what about black europeans
They exist but are not Natives

[Reck]

They exist but are not Natives

You hate them just as much though?

[FrostKing]

You hate them just as much though?
They tend to be smarter and more well adjusted than blacks in America

[spurraider21]

They exist but are not Natives
really? how far back do you have to go to be considered native?

[FrostKing]

really? how far back do you have to go to be considered native?
Sorry, you aren't forcing your precious blacks into our culture. Put that effort into Asia or Arabic world. We are full.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Frosty folds

[Reck]

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PA missed the memo about the riots affecting things. Solid 8 point lead among LV.

[spurraider21]

Sorry, you aren't forcing your precious blacks into our culture. Put that effort into Asia or Arabic world. We are full.
non answer

how far back does one have to go to be considered a native

[Ef-man]

non answer

how far back does one have to go to be considered a native

Is there a euro “one drop rule.”

Is euro trash just a level before you get to full euro?

How much neanderthal do you need to be full euro?

Please tell.

:lmao

[DMC]

a lot of people are generally protesting against police brutality. defund the police doesnt just mean you defund them when they patrol black areas, for instance

Right, Brutality Losses Matter, never knew.

[DMC]

1301581977309462528

PA missed the memo about the riots affecting things. Solid 8 point lead among LV.
You learned nothing 4 years ago obviously. You got your upstairs bags packed again?

[Reck]

You learned nothing 4 years ago obviously. You got your upstairs bags packed again?

Just keeping with the thread theme.

Riots have done shit to shift this race.

[ChumpDumper]

Just keeping with the thread theme.

Riots have done shit to shift this race.YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE WIDESPREAD 2016 RIOTS

[Chucho]

The positive of this poll is that it wakes Biden up 2 months before the election and reminds him that he has a real shot at losing. Shillary didn’t discover she had a shot at losing until <1 week before the election :lol

She didn't have a shot of losing her gift-wrapped election until she, a noted anti-gay marriage racist known for having a giant hard-on for KKK wizards, opened her fat trap and called the majority of undecided voters "deplorable" and stated people are incapable of change.

In all her arrogance and hypocrisy, she thought people would forget her past while she thought the virtue signaling would wrangle in the minority vote to cruise past the most unqualified candidate in U.S history.

Democrats are exclusively responsible for Trump and will be if this monster is re-elected. Far-Leftists, as seen in California, are no different than Alt-Righties so far as bat-shittery and selective bigotry goes.

Both parties are shit and need to go the way of the landline, phonebook and pager.

[Will Hunting]

She didn't have a shot of losing her gift-wrapped election until she, a noted anti-gay marriage racist known for having a giant hard-on for KKK wizards, opened her fat trap and called the majority of undecided voters "deplorable" and stated people are incapable of change.

In all her arrogance and hypocrisy, she thought people would forget her past while she thought the virtue signaling would wrangle in the minority vote to cruise past the most unqualified candidate in U.S history.

Democrats are exclusively responsible for Trump and will be if this monster is re-elected. Far-Leftists, as seen in California, are no different than Alt-Righties so far as bat-shittery and selective bigotry goes.

Both parties are shit and need to go the way of the landline, phonebook and pager.
Shillary is responsible for Trump to some extent, but saying she's "exclusively responsible" is illogical. Pretty sure the party that nominated Trump and voted for him is more responsible for him than Shillary is :lol

[Chucho]

Just keeping with the thread theme.

Riots have done shit to shift this race.


Define "shift". You can't deny the riots haven't correlated with Trumps recent rises in various polls. You can't be that deep in denial.

[DMC]

Just keeping with the thread theme.

Riots have done shit to shift this race.

Circular reasoning - the polls are accurate because the polls say so.

[DMC]

Shillary is responsible for Trump to some extent, but saying she's "exclusively responsible" is illogical. Pretty sure the party that nominated Trump and voted for him is more responsible for him than Shillary is :lol

Yet COVID isn't more responsible for the economy than Trump is.

[Reck]

opened her fat trap and called the majority of undecided voters "deplorable" and stated people are incapable of change.

This gets twisted so much that people actually believe that this was what she said. Or what doomed her.

The quote was "half of Trump's supporters were a basket of deplorable" The other half is good and want change or whatever.


You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic – you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America.


But the "other" basket – the other basket – and I know because I look at this crowd I see friends from all over America here: I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas and – as well as, you know, New York and California – but that "other" basket of people are people who feel the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures; and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but – he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.



I dont disagree with that one bit. The stupid woman backtracking from it did more damage in my opinion.

[Will Hunting]

Yet COVID isn't more responsible for the economy than Trump is.
That statement implies the false premise that Trump has no responsibility for COVID.

[Reck]

Define "shift". You can't deny the riots haven't correlated with Trumps recent rises in various polls. You can't be that deep in denial.

I'm not.

Just going by polls done post riots. None of them show a correlation to them.

It had more to do with the actual conventions. Each netted a very small gain.

Biden got 1.5 points and Trump gained it back up. That's about it.

[Chucho]

Shillary is responsible for Trump to some extent, but saying she's "exclusively responsible" is illogical. Pretty sure the party that nominated Trump and voted for him is more responsible for him than Shillary is :lol


She choked a 10 point (or more) consensus lead 10 days or less to Election day.

Repubs are exclusively responsible for nominating this clown. Dems and the DNC are exclusively responsible for running a racist, white, establishment homophobe who reminded everyone she was all of that when she said people can't change and tried to virtue signal to the fringe minority who wasn't going to vote more than likely.

Easily the stupidest thing said by a candidate in our lifetimes. And stupid to run a white supremacist, many Democrats weren't duped.

[DMC]

That statement implies the false premise that Trump has no responsibility for COVID.

Yours implies the dems running Hillary has nothing to do with the fact that Trump won.

[Will Hunting]

She choked a 10 point (or more) consensus lead 10 days or less to Election day.

Repubs are exclusively responsible for nominating this clown. Dems and the DNC are exclusively responsible for running a racist, white, establishment homophobe who reminded everyone she was all of that when she said people can't change and tried to virtue signal to the fringe minority who wasn't going to vote more than likely.

Easily the stupidest thing said by a candidate in our lifetimes. And stupid to run a white supremacist, many Democrats weren't duped.
Her lead was at 5.5% on fivethirtyeight 10 days before election day, and that was with a fuck load of undecided voters. The polls were off in 2016, but people are revising history and pretending the polls had her up by a lot more than she was actually up by.

I agree the Dems are responsible for running a shitty candidate and losing to Trump, that's different than saying they're responsible for Trump.

I don't think that deplorables comment is what hurt her in the critical states (it was a dumb comment no question). What hurt her more than anything is that she symbolizes the Democratic Party's gradual 30 year shift away from being pro labor to being pro globalism. In the end people care more about jobs than anything else, and Trump convinced the right people he could create better jobs. She lost because undecided voters in the key midwest states swung heavily towards Trump in the final week of the election, and I doubt those voters made a decision based off her deplorables comment from months prior.

Romney's 47% comment was dumber IMO, he never recovered in the polls after that. Not a presidential election, but Elliott Engel saying "I wouldn't care about this if black people weren't in my district" this year is definitely dumber than anything a presidential candidate has ever said :lol

[Will Hunting]

Yours implies the dems running Hillary has nothing to do with the fact that Trump won.
I literally said "Shillary is responsible for Trump to some extent"

Your desperation to find flaws in something I say is hilarious to watch.

[DMC]

I literally said "Shillary is responsible for Trump to some extent"

Your desperation to find flaws in something I say is hilarious to watch.

I literally said COVID isn't MORE responsible than Trump for the economy. That implies Trump is responsible for the economy to some extent.

[Will Hunting]

I literally said COVID isn't MORE responsible than Trump for the economy.
My previous comment still stands regarding the false premise that the impact COVID and Trump have had on the economy are independent of one another.

[DMC]

My previous comment still stands regarding the false premise that the impact COVID and Trump have had on the economy are independent of one another.

So the sharp drop you showed was which exactly?

[Reck]

but Elliott Engel saying "I wouldn't care about this if black people weren't in my district" this year is definitely dumber than anything a presidential candidate has ever said :lol

Nah the quote was "I wouldn't be here if I didn't have an election."

That pissed me off to want to vote for Bowman. Would have done so if the primaries weren't held entirely by mail this year.

All of these politicians living permanently in Maryland and then making a trip to their home district every 2 years is ridiculous and should be highlighted every single time it happens.

[Will Hunting]

So the sharp drop you showed was which exactly?
This question assumes literally the same premise regarding Trump and COVID-19 having no relation to one another.

If your goal is to trick someone into agreeing that Trump has no control over COVID-19, you're wasting your time with me.

[DMC]

Nah the quote was "I wouldn't be here if I didn't have an election."

That pissed me off to want to vote for Bowman. Would have done so if the primaries weren't held entirely by mail this year.

All of these politicians living permanently in Maryland and then making a trip to their home district every 2 years is ridiculous and should be highlighted every single time it happens.

"if I didn't have a primary, I wouldn't care."

That's what he actually said.

[DMC]

This question assumes literally the same premise regarding Trump and COVID-19 having no relation to one another.

If your goal is to trick someone into agreeing that Trump has no control over COVID-19, you're wasting your time with me.

You said they are independent of one another. Trump has no control over COVID-19. I'd like for you to explain how he possibly could. He only controls what's in his power to control which is his response to the virus. I already showed you that states have the authority to decide for themselves. Where does that leave Trump, what state does he control? Tough question I know, so you can just ignore it and pretend COVID never happened or that Trump released it himself.

[Reck]

"if I didn't have a primary, I wouldn't care."

That's what he actually said.

:tu

[DMC]

:tu

He wasn't talking about the area only about having some air time on the mic.

[Will Hunting]

You said they are independent of one another. Trump has no control over COVID-19. I'd like for you to explain how he possibly could. He only controls what's in his power to control which is his response to the virus. I already showed you that states have the authority to decide for themselves. Where does that leave Trump, what state does he control? Tough question I know, so you can just ignore it and pretend COVID never happened or that Trump released it himself.
I literally said the opposite, that they're not independent of one another.

He controls the funding that all 50 states get for PPE and other aid during a pandemic. He elected to intentionally starve blue states of any relief early on when he thought COVID-19 was only going to affect blue states.

The new conservative argument that Donald Trump is President of the United States but has no control over any of the states that make up the United States is a new one :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I literally said the opposite, that they're not independent of one another.

He controls the funding that all 50 states get for PPE and other aid during a pandemic. He elected to intentionally starve blue states of any relief early on when he thought COVID-19 was only going to affect blue states.

The new conservative argument that Donald Trump is President of the United States but has no control over any of the states that make up the United States is a new one :lolHe's powerless to do anything about anything! That's why I want him in control of everything!

[Will Hunting]

He's powerless to do anything about anything! That's why I want him in control of everything!
"The only person who can save us from the turmoil of Donald Trump's America is Donald Trump!"

[Ef-man]

It's official: There's no Trump bounce out of the conventions


https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/03/politics/dnc-rnc-donald-trump-joe-biden-2020-election/index.html

[DMC]

It's official: There's no Trump bounce out of the conventions


https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/03/politics/dnc-rnc-donald-trump-joe-biden-2020-election/index.html

If CNN said so.

[Ef-man]

Wait, what happened to this trump quote from April?

“When somebody’s the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be.”

[Ef-man]

If CNN said so.

:cry but my bounce :cry

[Reck]

If CNN said so.

How many polls does one need? Take your pick.

[Will Hunting]

IMO Trump got a net 1-2% bump from the conventions. fivethirtyeight has Biden's national lead at 7.4% right now and it was at 8.6% pre convention. The USC dornife poll (which tracks the same voters day by day) also shows Biden's margin down by a small amount but a big enough amount to say Trump got a bump.

The issue for Trump is that in modern history incumbents haven't been able to add support between when the conventions are over and before election day, granted anything is possible in this crazy year.

[Reck]

IMO Trump got a net 1-2% bump from the conventions. fivethirtyeight has Biden's national lead at 7.4% right now and it was at 8.6% pre convention. The USC dornife poll (which tracks the same voters day by day) also shows Biden's margin down by a small amount but a big enough amount to say Trump got a bump.

The issue for Trump is that in modern history incumbents haven't been able to add support between when the conventions are over and before election day, granted anything is possible in this crazy year.

I said it on another thread but each got a slight bump during and post convention.

Biden went +1.3 from August 17-24
Trump went +1.1 from August 24-31

Trump basically even out the DNC gain. Averages were actually a couple of points worse off at 7.1. Today that average is at 7.3.

[Chris]

I said it on another thread but each got a slight bump during and post convention.

Biden went +1.3 from August 17-24
Trump went +1.1 from August 24-31

Trump basically even out the DNC gain. Averages were actually a couple of points worse off at 7.1. Today that average is at 7.3.

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Trump is going to win.

[Reck]

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Trump is going to win.

Ok miss cleo.

[ElNono]

SPOILER

Trump is going to win.

This spells good news for Biden, tbh, seeing Qhris is wrong 95% of the time (I'm being generous here)

[Winehole23]

https://www.wisn.com/article/men-arrested-after-tip-they-were-going-to-kenosha-to-possibly-loot-pick-people-off/33919195

[CosmicCowboy]

I gotta admit the Trump fans appear to be a lot more excited about Trump than the Biden Fans are about Biden. I saw 5 different trucks yesterday decked out in Trump signs, banners, american flags, etc.

[ChumpDumper]

Including yours?

[Nathan89]

I gotta admit the Trump fans appear to be a lot more excited about Trump than the Biden Fans are about Biden. I saw 5 different trucks yesterday decked out in Trump signs, banners, american flags, etc.

Depends how you measure excitement tbh. If it's based on buildings burnt, businesses looted, and innocent people beaten then Biden takes the cake.

[Spurminator]

I gotta admit the Trump fans appear to be a lot more excited about Trump than the Biden Fans are about Biden. I saw 5 different trucks yesterday decked out in Trump signs, banners, american flags, etc.

Trump fans are more excited about Trump than any President or candidate that I can remember. People weren't driving around with Obama flags and wearing Hope hats either. The cult of personality is strong with magatards.

The enthusiasm for Biden is certainly low, but the enthusiasm against Trump rivals the anti-Obama sentiment in 2010.

[Reck]

Make sure your trucks and flags vote.

[FrostKing]

Trump fans are more excited about Trump than any President or candidate that I can remember. People weren't driving around with Obama flags and wearing Hope hats either. The cult of personality is strong with magatards.

The enthusiasm for Biden is certainly low, but the enthusiasm against Trump rivals the anti-Obama sentiment in 2010.
There were a lot of Obama car stickers here in California.

I remember election night when he spoke in front of the diverse crowd, after 15 years in this country was one of the proudest moments I had felt as an American.

4 years later didn't even vote for him. What a letdown

[DMC]

Trump fans are more excited about Trump than any President or candidate that I can remember. People weren't driving around with Obama flags and wearing Hope hats either. The cult of personality is strong with magatards.

The enthusiasm for Biden is certainly low, but the enthusiasm against Trump rivals the anti-Obama sentiment in 2010.

So once again the left hopes for "I'm not him" to be the reason their candidate gets votes.

[Isitjustme?]

lol

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[Reck]

lol

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Oh you mean the protests or even riots aren’t a factor in the least? Could have fool Karrin. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Yeah it was a special moment for sure. I was hoping he would be more Bill Clinton-esque and get meaningful stuff done. But he didn't want to work with the right and the right did not want to work with him. Some of the worst gridlock I'd ever seen.


There were a lot of Obama car stickers here in California.

I remember election night when he spoke in front of the diverse crowd, after 15 years in this country was one of the proudest moments I had felt as an American.

4 years later didn't even vote for him. What a letdown

[Spurminator]

So once again the left hopes for "I'm not him" to be the reason their candidate gets votes.

Worked for Republicans in 2016. And we weren't even coming off of 4 years of President Hillary Clinton fucking up a pandemic and inciting riots.

[Spurminator]

There were a lot of Obama car stickers here in California.

I remember election night when he spoke in front of the diverse crowd, after 15 years in this country was one of the proudest moments I had felt as an American.

4 years later didn't even vote for him. What a letdown

The Trump cult has gone far past car stickers.

[Spurminator]

lol

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Fake news. It's obvious that the libs are picking Biden in this poll because they secretly know he'll allow them to riot even more than they are now.

[Reck]

Will Hunting You wanted to know what changed from 2016 polling to how they're doing it now.

This tweet thread is interesting and sheds some light.
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[Will Hunting]

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) You wanted to know what changed from 2016 polling to how they're doing it now.

This tweet thread is interesting and sheds some light.
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Yeah that's kinda what I suspected, the pollsters seem more precise in the demographics of the sample they're polling.

FT also points out what I've said repeatedly on this site, nearly all of the polls that showed Hillary up also showed her below 50% of the total vote and a substantial amount of undecided voters. This year there's a lot of polls that show Biden above 50% and an overall significantly lower amount of undecided voters.

[Reck]

Yeah that's kinda what I suspected, the pollsters seem more precise in the demographics of the sample they're polling.

FT also points out what I've said repeatedly on this site, nearly all of the polls that showed Hillary up also showed her below 50% of the total vote and a substantial amount of undecided voters. This year there's a lot of polls that show Biden above 50% and an overall significantly lower amount of undecided voters.

Yeah it was two-prong. Undecideds and pollsters not targetting the non elite, non rich common folks. They missed a freaking huge chunk of the electorate.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah it was two-prong. Undecideds and pollsters not targetting the non elite, non rich common folks. They missed a freaking huge chunk of the electorate.
Some of 2016 was an aberration. I don't see Trump winning Wisconsin again by getting less votes than Romney got in 2012, and undecideds aren't going to swing the election again.

One thing to note of people want to compare to past election, Joe Biden is up more on Trump now than Obama was on McCain at this time in 2008 :lol

[FrostKing]

Yeah it was a special moment for sure. I was hoping he would be more Bill Clinton-esque and get meaningful stuff done. But he didn't want to work with the right and the right did not want to work with him. Some of the worst gridlock I'd ever seen.
The birther stuff was so petty.

[FrostKing]

Some of 2016 was an aberration. I don't see Trump winning Wisconsin again by getting less votes than Romney got in 2012, and undecideds aren't going to swing the election again.

One thing to note of people want to compare to past election, Joe Biden is up more on Trump now than Obama was on McCain at this time in 2008 :lol
Pencil in Wisconsin for Trump after BLM burned down Kenosha

[Dirks_Finale]

Pencil in Wisconsin for Trump after BLM burned down Kenosha

Yup.

I'm more confidant he carries Wisconsin again than I am with Michigan or Penn. Kenosha sealed it.

[Reck]

Yup.

I more confidant he carries Wisconsin again than I am with Michigan or Penn. Kenosha sealed it.

:lol

Trump has a higher percentage of winning Minnesota than Wisconsin.

Trump is on the other spectrum of the charts here. 7.5 points in the hole on average. That is worse than PA, and Minnesota combine.

[Will Hunting]

:lol all of the polls suggest Trump has lost ground in Wisconsin because of Kenosha. You guys are delusional.

[Reck]

Never mind. For some reason I thought Biden had an average of about 3 points in Minnesota. They released a poll today that had him up 8 points and that shot his averages up to 6.

Yeah I was right. It was around 4 and a half ish before.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/minnesota/

[Dirks_Finale]

Both are 10 electoral votes.

Don't see Minnesota ever turning red, though. This is the same state that elects wrestlers to be their Governor.

Trump can lose the popular vote much worse than he did to Killary and still eek out a 270 to 268 electoral college win. Which is what I think is going to happen, if he does win. And several Kenosha type destruction to follow.


:lol

Trump has a higher percentage of winning Minnesota than Wisconsin.

Trump is on the other spectrum of the charts here. 7.5 points in the hole on average. That is worse than PA, and Minnesota combine.

[Dirks_Finale]

I don't buy the polls that have him up that much. Very likely oversampling of democrats :lol

I do think he is pretty solid in Minnesota, though. Trump is not a threat there.


Never mind. For some reason I thought Biden had an average of about 3 points in Minnesota. They released a poll today that had him up 8 points and that shot his averages up to 6.

Yeah I was right. It was around 4 and a half ish before.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/minnesota/

[Blake]

"The only person who can save us from the turmoil of Donald Trump's America is Donald Trump!"

But Cuomo in April!

[Spurtacular]

:lol

Trump has a higher percentage of winning Minnesota than Wisconsin.

Trump is on the other spectrum of the charts here. 7.5 points in the hole on average. That is worse than PA, and Minnesota combine.

Believing all this BS is how you thought NC, AZ, GA were in play for Hillary in 2016. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Believing all this BS is how you thought NC, AZ, GA were in play for Hillary in 2016. :lol


...and many said Texas :lol

[Reck]

I don't buy the polls that have him up that much. Very likely oversampling of democrats :lol

I do think he is pretty solid in Minnesota, though. Trump is not a threat there.

You should probably give this a read.

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[Blake]

Because of the retarded electoral college system

[Spurtacular]

...and many said Texas :lol

Utah too for CIA's Egg McMuffin.

[Reck]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqjournal.com/1493758/biden-holds-sizable-lead-over-trump-in-nm-journal-poll-finds.html/amp

[Reck]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/515309-biden-leads-trump-by-6-points-in-wisconsin-poll%3famp

I’ll stop now.

[Bogie]

:lol Frosty folds

im guessing his wife got used up by some black dudes and told him about it. He’s still with her, because he has no self worth, whatsoever, and hates himself for knowing he can never satisfy her like they all did.

[Bogie]

Yeah that's kinda what I suspected, the pollsters seem more precise in the demographics of the sample they're polling.

FT also points out what I've said repeatedly on this site, nearly all of the polls that showed Hillary up also showed her below 50% of the total vote and a substantial amount of undecided voters. This year there's a lot of polls that show Biden above 50% and an overall significantly lower amount of undecided voters.

I can’t really imagine there is any real undecided vote, at this point.

people know what Trump is. It’s a referendum on whether it’s more important to heal, or own the libs.

[Bogie]

:lol all of the polls suggest Trump has lost ground in Wisconsin because of Kenosha. You guys are delusional.

I also fear the people like dirk and the guy from Poland and darrin and cc who will be completely fake in public because they know what Trump does that turns them on. They might even have the common sense to know blatantly representing themselves as they do here, leads to negative social consequences.

Reality is r’s have abandoned any pretense of even appearing to care about governing. It’s slash and burn, and position false narratives for the midterms

[FrostKing]

I also fear the people like dirk and the guy from Poland and darrin and cc who will be completely fake in public because they know what Trump does that turns them on. They might even have the common sense to know blatantly representing themselves as they do here, leads to negative social consequences.

Reality is r’s have abandoned any pretense of even appearing to care about governing. It’s slash and burn, and position false narratives for the midterms
My coworker, immigrant Asian female asked me yesterday if I think Trump will win. I told her a couple months ago I didn't think so but it is 50/50 now. I didn't put her on the spot but the way she formulated questions it seems she prefers Trump

In 2020 my circle of friends experienced two examples of social pressure, both in March. First being my friends housewife was pressured to support BLM on Facebook. She ended up taking it down. Another friend is still single living by the beach so he dates girls in their early-mid 20s and he said these types would also voice pressure for supporting BLM.

So both examples involved white American women. These are the biggest victims of social and media pressure.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol FrostKing can't even consider the possibility white women have agency.

Single fella, eh?

[Splits]

Trump can lose the popular vote much worse than he did to Killary and still eek out a 270 to 268 electoral college win. Which is what I think is going to happen, if he does win.

this is true

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[Will Hunting]

I can’t really imagine there is any real undecided vote, at this point.

people know what Trump is. It’s a referendum on whether it’s more important to heal, or own the libs.
The polls say there are undecided voters, just a lot less than last time around (which wasn't really a symptom of people not knowing Trump but a symptom of voters being undecided because they hated Trump and Clinton).

[Will Hunting]

Gotta love how incompetent the Democratic Party is. After losing to Trump 4 years ago because of how much better the GOP is at centralized data collection and making sure both the campaigns and independent PACs are targeting the right voters, the Democratic Party is now FINALLY launching its own centralized data warehouse only 2 fucking months before the election :lmao

If they had this for the 2018 midterms instead of spending 2 years complaining about how the Republicans shouldn't be allowed to centralize data collection, they probably win both statewide races in Florida as well as the gubernatorial race in Georgia. Beto might have even been able to win Texas if voter registration efforts were more targeted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/politics/Presidential-election-voting-Democrats.html

[Reck]

Gotta love how incompetent the Democratic Party is. After losing to Trump 4 years ago because of how much better the GOP is at centralized data collection and making sure both the campaigns and independent PACs are targeting the right voters, the Democratic Party is now FINALLY launching its own centralized data warehouse only 2 fucking months before the election :lmao

If they had this for the 2018 midterms instead of spending 2 years complaining about how the Republicans shouldn't be allowed to centralize data collection, they probably win both statewide races in Florida as well as the gubernatorial race in Georgia. Beto might have even been able to win Texas if voter registration efforts were more targeted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/politics/Presidential-election-voting-Democrats.html

Better late than never.

Way I read this, there is a fine line between this being legal and then not. Are we forgetting the Republican got caught using the Cambridge Analityca firm to illegally do voter outreach?

Also I think the Democratic Party is a lot more...should I say stubbornly independent in that they have lots of factions, progressive wing vs moderates vs the inbetweens. Republicans are definitely more tribalistic.

That piece of shit Perez did something good for a change.

[Will Hunting]

Better late than never.

Way I read this, there is a fine line between this being legal and then not. Are we forgetting the Republican got caught using the Cambridge Analityca firm to illegally do voter outreach?

Also I think the Democratic Party is a lot more...should I say stubbornly independent in that they have lots of factions, progressive wing vs moderates vs the inbetweens. Republicans are definitely more tribalistic.

That piece of shit Perez did something good for a change.
FEC has already said its legal. The Democrats wasted valuable time complaining to the FEC about Republicans doing it instead of developing their own centralized data warehouse. Complaining about the GOP stretching the rules and/or using dirty tricks has never worked, it’s time to skip that step and go straight to the part where Democrats do the same thing.

I don’t think this is a progressive vs moderate issue. This is an issue of Democrats thinking since they view themselves the “good guys” they don’t need to look for every edge the way Republicans do because they can just win on the ideas. One big hurdle here was state Democratic Parties not wanting to give up their voter registration data for purely stubborn reasons, and it took months to get them to hand over data. Just petty infighting that stems from a lack of competent leadership. Perez should have called any state Democratic Party that was being difficult and said we’re going to cut you off and starve you of any funding if you don’t go along with this.

[Bogie]

My coworker, immigrant Asian female asked me yesterday if I think Trump will win. I told her a couple months ago I didn't think so but it is 50/50 now. I didn't put her on the spot but the way she formulated questions it seems she prefers Trump

In 2020 my circle of friends experienced two examples of social pressure, both in March. First being my friends housewife was pressured to support BLM on Facebook. She ended up taking it down. Another friend is still single living by the beach so he dates girls in their early-mid 20s and he said these types would also voice pressure for supporting BLM.

So both examples involved white American women. These are the biggest victims of social and media pressure.


but you’re in Poland, remember?

there would not be any consequences for them there.

edit: imagine how big of a coward and piece of shit you must be, if “hey don’t be a racist piece of shit,” is considered pressure.

it’s almost like you’re a liar. Shocking

[Bogie]

FEC has already said its legal. The Democrats wasted valuable time complaining to the FEC about Republicans doing it instead of developing their own centralized data warehouse. Complaining about the GOP stretching the rules and/or using dirty tricks has never worked, it’s time to skip that step and go straight to the part where Democrats do the same thing.

I don’t think this is a progressive vs moderate issue. This is an issue of Democrats thinking since they view themselves the “good guys” they don’t need to look for every edge the way Republicans do because they can just win on the ideas. One big hurdle here was state Democratic Parties not wanting to give up their voter registration data for purely stubborn reasons, and it took months to get them to hand over data. Just petty infighting that stems from a lack of competent leadership. Perez should have called any state Democratic Party that was being difficult and said we’re going to cut you off and starve you of any funding if you don’t go along with this.


it’s almost like the dem party is not one homogenous sect that is in lock step with what they’re told to think.

it’s almost like people who historically have never consistently participated have less of a voice than the people who are there every election.

crazy

[Will Hunting]

it’s almost like the dem party is not one homogenous sect that is in lock step with what they’re told to think.

it’s almost like people who historically have never consistently participated have less of a voice than the people who are there every election.

crazy
Not sure what any of this has to do with the DNC being too incompetent to collect and analyze data as well as the GOP does.

Seems more like you're trying to shoehorn more condescending fortune cookie wisdom about voter participation into a topic that has nothing to do with it.

[ElNono]

Not sure what any of this has to do with the DNC being too incompetent to collect and analyze data as well as the GOP does.

Seems more like you're trying to shoehorn more condescending fortune cookie wisdom about voter participation into a topic that has nothing to do with it.

They got complacent after Obama's ground game beat the shit out of the GOP. They thought that kind of strategy could get anybody elected, and they were wrong.

[Will Hunting]

They got complacent after Obama's ground game beat the shit out of the GOP. They thought that kind of strategy could get anybody elected, and they were wrong.
Agreed, but not sure how that relates to the Democratic Party not being homogenous or the fortune cookie wisdom about how people who vote regularly are well represented. Pretty sure the Democrats who vote consistently want the Democratic Party to not be complacent and to constantly be looking for ways to find new votes, regardless of race/policy/etc.

Having good data is especially important in smaller states/races. The senate race in Montana is probably going to come down to <25k votes and could be the difference between a tie-breaker majority or a 51 vote majority, having data that allows left leaning PACs and Bullock's campaign call the right voters is a big factor in that election. It even helps give Jaimie Harrison a fighting chance in South Carolina where he only wins if he turns out a record amount of black votes.

Hopefully 60 days is enough time for people to get trained on it and start using the data effectively, but there's no doubt that not having this 2018 midterms probably lost key statewide races in Florida and Georgia. Having a Democratic governor in Florida and Georgia would have been huge for 2020 redistricting.

[Reck]

They got complacent after Obama's ground game beat the shit out of the GOP. They thought that kind of strategy could get anybody elected, and they were wrong.

Umm you sure?

If that were true then how come they got waxed from 2012-2014. Dems lost over 1000 seats from that time period alone.

Democrats are just not good at fighting hard. I’ll take what Will said and apply it loosely. Democrats run on a core idea which often is the right one and morally sound one and they think they can just let that do the talking.

Hope and change works but you kind of have to follow up on it.

[Isitjustme?]

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:lol :lol

[DMC]

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:lol :lol

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[ElNono]

Umm you sure?

If that were true then how come they got waxed from 2012-2014. Dems lost over 1000 seats from that time period alone.

Democrats are just not good at fighting hard. I’ll take what Will said and apply it loosely. Democrats run on a core idea which often is the right one and morally sound one and they think they can just let that do the talking.

Hope and change works but you kind of have to follow up on it.

Federal and Congressional elections are completely different animals. I don't know why people think they're the same.

[ElNono]

Sorry that should read Presidential vs Congressional elections.

[Bogie]

Not sure what any of this has to do with the DNC being too incompetent to collect and analyze data as well as the GOP does.

Seems more like you're trying to shoehorn more condescending fortune cookie wisdom about voter participation into a topic that has nothing to do with it.

no, I’m stating that the the dem party is not a one size fits all party, like todays party of trump. And so there are factions. The r’s are good little soldiers that do exactly what they are told.

They can no longer win on ideas, and haven’t been able to for a long long time. It’s all suppression, and fear.

As Nono said, Obama’s people were brilliant with their mobilization efforts. Bill Clinton was the master at framing debates. The rest of the party not so much. They are still working under the idea that people are rational and capable of discerning truth from rw talking points.

but it all goes back to the same basic tenant, you have to win elections. Period. Fractures and loud protestations about not being catered to, are not moving the ball towards that ultimate goal.

[Isitjustme?]

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Dang man, even more good news. thanks! :tu

[Spurtacular]

People having sense tried to rein these idiots in with All Lives Matter. Democrats weren't having it though.

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[Isitjustme?]

People having sense tried to rein these idiots in with All Lives Matter. Democrats weren't having it though.

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Biden is dominating the polling on whos better on law &order :lol :lol

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[Isitjustme?]

Republicans losing on law & order :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump's Kenosha camera shop lie is a symbol of how far he'll go to deceive us

Donald Trump can’t even visit a burned-down business without lying about it.

When the owner of Rode’s Camera Shop refused to be part of Trump’s tour of Kenosha, Wisconsin,

Trump didn’t take the business off the tour.

He just went ahead (https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/kenosha-business-owner-declines-president-trump-photo-op-former-owner-replaces-him) with an alternative “owner.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/2/1974368/-Trump-brings-in-a-stunt-double-after-Kenosha-business-owner-refuses-to-appear-with-him (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/2/1974368/-Trump-brings-in-a-stunt-double-after-Kenosha-business-owner-refuses-to-appear-with-him)

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Trump Gets Nothing Out Of Kenosha Trip

As Biden Leads Wisconsin By 6
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/2/1974368/-Trump-brings-in-a-stunt-double-after-Kenosha-business-owner-refuses-to-appear-with-him (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/2/1974368/-Trump-brings-in-a-stunt-double-after-Kenosha-business-owner-refuses-to-appear-with-him)

[Spurtacular]

Biden is dominating the polling on whos better on law &order :lol :lol

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:lol No

But if you have a fake poll, I could use the :lol

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Biden up 8 points in a Wisconsin Rasmussen poll

[ChumpDumper]

:lol ST Trump supporters praying for moar violence need to get out there and boogaloo some shit themselves soon. Best bet is to do it in Kamala's name and claim she's the secret love child of Bill Ayres and Angela Davis. Your race war's not gonna start itself.

[DarrinS]

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[Winehole23]

(DarrinS reposting neo-fascist berserker/fraudster Andy Ngo.)


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[ChumpDumper]

(DarrinS reposting neo-fascist berserker/fraudster Andy Ngo.)


(check)We all know where Karrin's loyalties ie.

[Will Hunting]

Imagine how relieved Karrin must be now that he no longer has to pretend he isn't a Trump supporter.

[DarrinS]

Lol triggered

[TSA]

(DarrinS reposting neo-fascist berserker/fraudster Andy Ngo.)


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Is the video and video description fraudulent?

[Winehole23]

Is the video and video description fraudulent?That's a fair point, it wasn't mine, however.

[Winehole23]

I would say putting Portland in the soda straw BLM/Antifa detector and pretending that's what everything looks like is disinformation.

TSA and Darrin hover the soda straw over the 7 out of 100 BLM marches with any safety complaint. That's propaganda.

[ChumpDumper]

I would say putting Portland in the soda straw BLM/Antifa detector and pretending that's what everything looks like is disinformation.

TSA and Darrin hover the soda straw over the 7 out of 100 BLM marches with any safety complaint. That's propaganda.Right. I told them they're going to have to start up some violence themselves in the next couple months. It's not going to happen otherwise.

[Splits]

It came from the Trump administration. It's not like the typical James Woods tweet you masterbate to.

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[Reck]

:lmao Biden up 8 points in a Wisconsin Rasmussen poll

They seem more interested in making Trump look approvable. His rating with them is well over 50. :lol

[Will Hunting]

They seem more interested in making Trump look approvable. His rating with them is well over 50. :lol
I wouldn't call 51% well over 50% :lol

[Will Hunting]

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:lmao the idea that wanting to have a government that's adequately funded and prepared for a pandemic is so foreign to them they just assume it's a conspiracy

"There's no way someone could genuinely think being prepared for a pandemic is more important than giving rich people tax cuts, this is obviously a HOAX!"

[boutons_deux]

Trash's actions and inactions created The Trump-Made Pandemic, which is more mortal than in other industrial countries.

The best countries, so WaPo "unprepared", have kept their C19 deaths/million well under 100,

while Trash's criminal negligent manslaughter is at nearly 500 deaths/million, and still averaging 1000 deaths/day.

WaPo's bullshit that none of the 195 countries was prepared is bullshit,

since dozens have and are still managing the pandemic MUCH better than Trash's carnage.

[tholdren]

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Lololol splits fail

[Reck]

:lmao the idea that wanting to have a government that's adequately funded and prepared for a pandemic is so foreign to them they just assume it's a conspiracy

"There's no way someone could genuinely think being prepared for a pandemic is more important than giving rich people tax cuts, this is obviously a HOAX!"

Specially when he’s talking about something their administration put in place which Trump absolutely gutted.

If I helped set up a program that would help deal with a global pandemic and you fucked that up, I would point it out.

MAGATS think this was randomly and out of nowhere. :lol

[tholdren]

Specially when he’s talking about something their administration put in place which Trump absolutely gutted.

If I helped set up a program that would help deal with a global pandemic and you fucked that up, I would point it out.

MAGATS think this was randomly and out of nowhere. :lol

lol global pandemic

[Jack Kevorkian]

Lololol splits fail


lol global pandemic
Call the office.

[DarrinS]

These people seem pleasant

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[ChumpDumper]

These people seem pleasant

1302481909730160640Not your zip code. What do you care?

[ChumpDumper]

lol global pandemicf:lolldren doesn't even think it's a global pandemic.

[Reck]

MuH bLaCKs who I'm so scared of Karrin. :lol

[Will Hunting]

These people seem pleasant

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Trump’s America :tu

[Spurminator]

tHEsE pEoPLe SeEm pLeAsaNT

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[Will Hunting]

tHEsE pEoPLe SeEm pLeAsaNT

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Definitely also Trump’s America

[Will Hunting]

Well done by the cops for stepping in, that guy was toast without them.