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DC23
08-29-2020, 03:17 PM
Hmm. I'm going with the upset. Heat in 7?

lefty
08-30-2020, 03:29 PM
Heat in 6

Maybe 7 if Silverberg decides to meddle

D-Wade
08-30-2020, 04:55 PM
Heat in 6 tbh

gambit1990
08-30-2020, 06:08 PM
going with the heat as well.

daslicer
08-30-2020, 06:09 PM
Bucks in 6 games.

Will Hunting
08-31-2020, 06:05 PM
Jesus, 6 minutes in and the defense is a fucking joke in this game too (:lol no missed threes yet)

lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896)

140 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49590)

t:lolday's NB:lol

Rummpd
08-31-2020, 06:42 PM
Bucks 6 (or less)

Play Boban
08-31-2020, 06:49 PM
Dragic still shitting all over PATFO per par tbh.

KobesAchilles
08-31-2020, 06:51 PM
Heat in sweep

140
08-31-2020, 06:55 PM
Jesus, 6 minutes in and the defense is a fucking joke in this game too (:lol no missed threes yet)

lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896)

140 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49590)

t:lolday's NB:lol
:lol


INB4 "theyre amazing shooters!!! proof that todays NBA is far superior!!!"

lefty
08-31-2020, 07:01 PM
Jesus, 6 minutes in and the defense is a fucking joke in this game too (:lol no missed threes yet)

lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896)

140 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49590)

t:lolday's NB:lol
:lol

D-Wade
08-31-2020, 07:15 PM
Dragic has been a Heat legend in these playoffs.

Bam and Jimmy need to show up.

JamStone
08-31-2020, 07:26 PM
Most team defenses now try to run players off the three point line when they either rotate or recover. Three consequences are that 1. they bite on shot fakes and allow for a pretty open look when the shooter side steps or steps back, 2. they allow the shooter to blow right by them and take a red carpet to the rim, and 3. when help tries to come on the drive, they kick it to another wide open three point shooter. Rinse. Repeat.

We complain about the defense being played today. But it’s really fucking hard to defend the three point line at all five positions when guys have gotten so good at shooting threes and have even perfected three point shots like the stepback or sidestep or 35+ footers, even when pretty good defense is played. All it does is open everything else, especially the lane for easy dunks and lay-ups when the defense is stretched and there’s no help defense.

lefty
08-31-2020, 08:01 PM
Most team defenses now try to run players off the three point line when they either rotate or recover. Three consequences are that 1. they bite on shot fakes and allow for a pretty open look when the shooter side steps or steps back, 2. they allow the shooter to blow right by them and take a red carpet to the rim, and 3. when help tries to come on the drive, they kick it to another wide open three point shooter. Rinse. Repeat.

We complain about the defense being played today. But it’s really fucking hard to defend the three point line at all five positions when guys have gotten so good at shooting threes and have even perfected three point shots like the stepback or sidestep or 35+ footers, even when pretty good defense is played. All it does is open everything else, especially the lane for easy dunks and lay-ups when the defense is stretched and there’s no help defense.

DAF86
08-31-2020, 08:14 PM
If the Bucks fail to make the finals again, will Giannis finally start getting some heat?

D-Wade
08-31-2020, 08:16 PM
Shit I'd take Jimmy over Giannis in the clutch... Giannis just gives you bricked FTs

Texas_Ranger
08-31-2020, 08:19 PM
good to see Jimmy shitting on 2 Spurs ex coaches in year and a half.

140
08-31-2020, 08:22 PM
video reviews are the worst thing to happen to sports possibly ever tbh

DAF86
08-31-2020, 08:23 PM
lol anteoverrated

SuperCam
08-31-2020, 08:24 PM
if coach bud can't beat this miami team in the playoffs they go down in history as bigger reg season pretenders than the Pringles Suns :lol

D-Wade
08-31-2020, 08:24 PM
Giannis :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

DAF86
08-31-2020, 08:25 PM
good to see Jimmy shitting on 2 Spurs ex coaches in year and a half.

Folks upstairs were saying "no, thank you. Not Spurs material" when I asked for him when he wanted out of Minnesota. :lol

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 08:27 PM
bucks too soft for this.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 08:30 PM
If the Bucks fail to make the finals again, will Giannis finally start getting some heat?
no, he'll still be the media's darling after this fail.

D-Wade
08-31-2020, 08:31 PM
If the Bucks fail to make the finals again, will Giannis finally start getting some heat?

He will... but personally I don't want him in South Beach.

RD2191
08-31-2020, 08:33 PM
:lol Giannis
:lol Better than Kawhi?
:lol Fake MVP
:lol Kawhi owned his ass last year.
:lol overrated

RD2191
08-31-2020, 08:34 PM
no, he'll still be the media's darling after this fail.

Dude is probably the most overrated player in the league tbh

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 08:37 PM
giannis antexposed.

imagine being a bucks fan :lol

they must be blueballed as fück.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 08:40 PM
giannis is gonna cry like embiid if they get swept.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 08:49 PM
i'm no giannis fan but i'm gonna be pissed with the bucks trade him to the warriors for wiggins and the #2 pick.

Kawhitstorm
08-31-2020, 10:05 PM
Shit I'd take Jimmy over Giannis in the clutch... Giannis just gives you bricked FTs

Brogdon was their closer last postseason season & they could have used Bledsoe’s defense or even Ilyasova taking chargers on those Butler/Dragic drives :lol (They are clearly a weaker playoff team than last season)

Kawhitstorm
08-31-2020, 10:22 PM
i'm no giannis fan but i'm gonna be pissed with the bucks trade him to the warriors for wiggins and the #2 pick.

You do understand that Wiggins is basically a grossly overpaid Jeff Green & the Bucks owners let Brogdon walk b/c they are penny pinching? The draft would have to be a generational for the #2 to be conversation starter & that isn’t the case.

Something like a Jokic for Giannis swap makes sense if the latter isn’t opposed to playing in Denver.

lefty
08-31-2020, 10:24 PM
:lol omg the Twitter slander right now

lefty
08-31-2020, 10:36 PM
Btw Goran is underrated imo

Killakobe81
09-01-2020, 01:34 AM
Btw Thank God Jimmy Buckets didnt pick Clippers. If he was Kawhi #2 whole league be fucked. With playoff pee pee they can be beat...

Bill_Brasky
09-01-2020, 10:13 AM
i'm no giannis fan but i'm gonna be pissed with the bucks trade him to the warriors for wiggins and the #2 pick.

Giannis antetokant-put-the-fuckin-ball-in-the-basket-from-outside-of-2-feet needs to join dem mavs tbh. He would be able to rub his nutz in some faces with luka spoon feeding him the ball.

lefty
09-01-2020, 01:38 PM
76ers improve by adding Al Horford, trading Jimmy Butler –
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:lmao

RD2191
09-02-2020, 05:50 PM
:wakeup

D-Wade
09-02-2020, 06:02 PM
Bucks continuing to hit fluky unsustainable shots in the first half. If they win this way, rather than running thru Giannis, I'll live with it.

MultiTroll
09-02-2020, 08:29 PM
Lopez clearly got fouled. Should have been 2+1 on that pass he stole.

Bynumite
09-02-2020, 08:35 PM
Lopez clearly got fouled. Should have been 2+1 on that pass he stole.

Butler lifted his pivot before he turned it over if you gonna bring up the refs on that play.

Also, what a soft call on that Middleton 3 :lol

Texas_Ranger
09-02-2020, 08:36 PM
:lol at that call on Dragic. this refs are retards.

MultiTroll
09-02-2020, 08:38 PM
NBA sponsored by Pampers. :lol

D-Wade
09-02-2020, 08:40 PM
lol refs tried to make that game interesting late, along with a boneheaded play by Butler. But 2-0 against the "MVP" I'll take it.

Clipper Nation
09-02-2020, 08:40 PM
Btw Thank God Jimmy Buckets didnt pick Clippers. If he was Kawhi #2 whole league be fucked. With playoff pee pee they can be beat...

:lol Jimmy just got bailed out of what would have been an epic Playoff P-level choke.

Terrible officiating, btw. The refs have been god-awful in the bubble. The NBA should be ashamed of this product.

paperboy77
09-02-2020, 08:41 PM
Or less?

paperboy77
09-02-2020, 08:45 PM
Great.. just... ending. Poetic justice. All these damn refs are complicit. Especially that idiot that always is called upon to be the say all be all HOF guy. These mofo's can see a replay a fraction normal speed and they will only identify stupider justifications for their call. I say lessen up on these shooters. They don't want ankle issues.... don't shoot jump-shots! Boris Durke was freaking spot on. The defender has every right to contest the shot AND land in his spot.

D-Wade
09-02-2020, 08:46 PM
Great.. just... ending. Poetic justice. All these damn refs are complicit. Especially that idiot that always is called upon to be the say all be all HOF guy. These mofo's can see a replay a fraction normal speed and they will only identify stupider justifications for their call. I say lessen up on these shooters. They don't want ankle issues.... don't shoot jump-shots! Boris Durke was freaking spot on. The defender has every right to contest the shot AND land in his spot.

RD2191
09-02-2020, 08:49 PM
:lol Giannis
:lol Better than Kawhi?
:lol Fake MVP
:lol Kawhi owned his ass last year.
:lol overrated

LkrFan
09-02-2020, 08:59 PM
https://twitter.com/nbamemesinsta/status/1301334272377143296?s=19

:lol

paperboy77
09-02-2020, 09:18 PM
.

paperboy77
09-02-2020, 09:19 PM
:lol Giannis
:lol Better than Kawhi?
:lol Fake MVP
:lol Kawhi owned his ass last year.
:lol overrated

All i gotta say is fuck KL! Why does anyone still stick up for this piece of mierda! That dude fucked ALL of the SA's transition plan. Will always hate on KL and his punk ass teams. I will actually ... gun to my head... marginally chose the Fakers against #2. That's as far as my hypocrisy will go. (Doc Holiday)

daslicer
09-02-2020, 09:26 PM
All i gotta say is fuck KL! Why does anyone still stick up for this piece of mierda! That dude fucked ALL of the SA's transition plan. Will always hate on KL and his punk ass teams. I will actually ... gun to my head... marginally chose the Fakers against #2. That's as far as my hypocrisy will go. (Doc Holiday)

I would say it's for two reasons granted I will never root for #2. There is one group of spur fans that despise Pop with a passion and wants #2 to win a bunch of times to stick it to Pop. There is another group which I call the below the age 30 group which had no memories of the Spurs first 4 titles or were too young to take them in. So in their eyes they look at KL with a lot of reverence for bringing them the only spurs title that they got to experience in their lifetime. They will always give him godly worship much like raptor fans do for #2. In some cases you have fans that fall in both groups.

Killakobe81
09-02-2020, 09:58 PM
:lol Jimmy just got bailed out of what would have been an epic Playoff P-level choke.

Terrible officiating, btw. The refs have been god-awful in the bubble. The NBA should be ashamed of this product.

yes he sucked today ... but I wouldn't trust Pee to make the GW FT's tho ....

Michael Jordan.
09-03-2020, 09:08 AM
:lmao Giannis

lefty
09-03-2020, 10:01 AM
:lol Gianus

Spurtacular
09-03-2020, 02:10 PM
Slob's superior team down 0-2. :lol

crc21209
09-03-2020, 02:19 PM
How the fuck has this guy not developed a consistent jumper yet? One of my buddies the other day claimed that "maybe Giannis is too jacked now to be a good shooter," which I thought was a horrible response because David Robinson was crazy ripped and he still shot better than what Giannis shoots today....

lefty
09-03-2020, 03:09 PM
How the fuck has this guy not developed a consistent jumper yet? One of my buddies the other day claimed that "maybe Giannis is too jacked now to be a good shooter," which I thought was a horrible response because David Robinson was crazy ripped and he still shot better than what Giannis shoots today....

Lol wtf
Jacked players can be good shooters

Lebron can shoot and he is built like a tank

chunticakes
09-03-2020, 09:43 PM
:lol Gianus

Lefty pls :cry

Jules_Winnfield
09-04-2020, 07:19 PM
herro, robinson, leonard

heat has too many white americans

Spurtacular
09-04-2020, 07:32 PM
That Butler tip-in was in the cylinder. NBA refs cheat.

phxspurfan
09-04-2020, 07:37 PM
Here’s when the refs secure the win for the Giannises

dbreiden83080
09-04-2020, 07:40 PM
28 Min for Giannis.. Is Bud trying to get fired?

D-Wade
09-04-2020, 07:58 PM
hahahahahahaha bucks

Texas_Ranger
09-04-2020, 08:03 PM
being this bad is kinda a surprise, but this Milwaulee team is not that good. A lot worse than last year actually. All i know is, any team from east that comes to the finals is gonna be fucked.

gambit1990
09-04-2020, 08:03 PM
bucks too soft for this.

RD2191
09-04-2020, 08:03 PM
I'm always right about everything, people overrating the shit out of Giannis, ranking him above Kawhi, lmaooo. Fuck outta here.

Kawhitstorm
09-04-2020, 08:30 PM
How the fuck has this guy not developed a consistent jumper yet? One of my buddies the other day claimed that "maybe Giannis is too jacked now to be a good shooter," which I thought was a horrible response because David Robinson was crazy ripped and he still shot better than what Giannis shoots today....

*Karl Malone has joined the chat*

The issue with Giannis is that he doesn’t have a go to move in the half-court besides dribble drives. Dude doesn’t even have post moves, he basically overpowers his defender then spins/dunks. He would also be able to avoid chargers if he at least had a floater.

MultiTroll
09-04-2020, 09:39 PM
:lol Jimmy just got bailed out of what would have been an epic Playoff P-level choke.

Terrible officiating, btw. The refs have been god-awful in the bubble. The NBA should be ashamed of this product.
I missed all of game 3.
How does the team behind by 12 going into the 4th end up with way the hell more FTs, and Butler himself getting 19? Was this some Kobe level shit?
Look if Butler really got fouled great. I'm just asking those who saw it.

Kawhitstorm
09-04-2020, 11:16 PM
I missed all of game 3.
How does the team behind by 12 going into the 4th end up with way the hell more FTs, and Butler himself getting 19? Was this some Kobe level shit?
Look if Butler really got fouled great. I'm just asking those who saw it.

Bud benched Matthews & Butler got loose driving to the bucket. Meanwhile, Bucks couldn’t buy a basket in the 4th quarter & that was all she wrote.

MultiTroll
09-04-2020, 11:20 PM
Bud benched Matthews & Butler got loose driving to the bucket. Meanwhile, Bucks couldn’t buy a basket in the 4th quarter & that was all she wrote.
I see Freak tweaked something pretty substantial. Not a cop out just reality. Explains his horking 7 treys vs his usual take virtually everything to the rack?
Say what one wants to about him, his transition end to end and then dunking is impressive. It's like he takes 12 foot long steps.

Capt Bringdown
09-05-2020, 09:34 AM
Time to dust off this classic chune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spXnX0l638&t=124s

Spurtacular
09-05-2020, 10:57 AM
Superior One Seeds 0-4 in 2nd round.

:lol mono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52488)slob

Robz4000
09-06-2020, 03:24 PM
Did Giannis just quit?

lefty
09-06-2020, 03:26 PM
Gonis :lol

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 03:31 PM
How is a team giving this many starter minutes to past prime, below average three shooting George Hill a one seed? SMH

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 03:33 PM
How is a team giving this many starter minutes to past prime, below average three shooting George Hill a one seed? SMH

:lol George Hill making back-to-back threes right after I say that.

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 03:37 PM
Wesley Matthews? Bucks dug that guy out of his grave? :lol

Robz4000
09-06-2020, 03:38 PM
:lol as soon as Antetokounmpo leaves the Bucks look like a better team

TD 21
09-06-2020, 03:48 PM
Did Giannis just quit?

He clearly re-injured his right ankle.

Either way, now all he has to do is exaggerate a condition, rest for 73 games next season, go hide in New York, have his uncle slag the Bucks to the media, get traded to the Raptors for cents on the dollar, have the Clippers suffer a myriad of significant injuries, win a tainted championship, then blackmail another franchise into trading for an under contract star who otherwise wasn't available, rest some more games and he'll be above reproach.

daslicer
09-06-2020, 03:51 PM
He clearly re-injured his right ankle.

Either way, now all he has to do is exaggerate a condition, rest for 73 games next season, go hide in New York, have his uncle slag the Bucks to the media, get traded to the Raptors for cents on the dollar, have the Clippers suffer a myriad of significant injuries, win a tainted championship, then blackmail another franchise into trading for an under contract star who otherwise wasn't available, rest some more games and he'll be above reproach.

:lmao I'll say this you can't trust those Nigerian uncles. They are big time scam artists.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 03:52 PM
:lol Dude bitched out after getting exposed. What a fraud.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 03:52 PM
Did Giannis just quit?
Sure did. Dude is a bitch.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 03:54 PM
He clearly re-injured his right ankle.

Either way, now all he has to do is exaggerate a condition, rest for 73 games next season, go hide in New York, have his uncle slag the Bucks to the media, get traded to the Raptors for cents on the dollar, have the Clippers suffer a myriad of significant injuries, win a tainted championship, then blackmail another franchise into trading for an under contract star who otherwise wasn't available, rest some more games and he'll be above reproach.
:claw:lobt::lobt:

How many does MVGiannis got?

daslicer
09-06-2020, 04:02 PM
:claw:lobt::lobt:

How many does MVGiannis got?

He'll get 3-4 once he joins the Warriors.

baseline bum
09-06-2020, 04:03 PM
So the 2020 Bucks = 2015 Hawks? Though to be fair, at least the Hawks made the ECF before getting the broom.

TD 21
09-06-2020, 04:03 PM
:claw:lobt::lobt:

How many does MVGiannis got?

How many times has he had the most complete team in the league plus opponent injury luck? Given him those circumstances, he'd have two too, cuckold.

:lmao Souped up Bowen winning Finals MVP as a nod to James, then unwittingly concocting pristine circumstances to win another. Tainted as can be.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 04:04 PM
How many times has he had the most complete team in the league plus opponent injury luck? Given him those circumstances, he'd have two too, cuckold.
You can cry about is as much as you want, dude has 2 and is on his way to number 3.

TD 21
09-06-2020, 04:05 PM
You can cry about is as much as you want, dude has 2 and is on his way to number 3.

Who cares? They're meaningless if not earned. That's what casual fans/cuckolds like you don't get. He's right there with Durant.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 04:08 PM
Who cares? They're meaningless if not earned. That's what casual fans/cuckolds like you don't get. He's right there with Durant.
Not even close, he earned them both. Got traded to a new team and still took them all the way. I don't care about injuries, they happen every season.

TD 21
09-06-2020, 04:11 PM
Not even close, he earned them both. Got traded to a new team and still took them all the way. I don't care about injuries, they happen every season.

:lmao Are you trolling or that dense? He intentionally destroyed his value, leading to a trade that otherwise wouldn't have been considered, which taints it. They were also a top 5 team beforehand.

As for the injuries, it was the best and fourth best players on the best team, with the fifth-seventh best playing hurt.

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 04:39 PM
:lol The Heat have a player named Duncan Robinson.

i'm_still_beta
09-06-2020, 04:53 PM
Bledsoe:lmao

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 05:00 PM
George Hill turns his back and gives up the game winning three if this score/lead holds.

phxspurfan
09-06-2020, 05:03 PM
ROFL refs extend the series.

i'm_still_beta
09-06-2020, 05:03 PM
Just let Brook shoot it. Middleton was cold in the 4th

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 05:04 PM
If you're a white guy and you can't make your f'ing free throws.... SMH

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 05:22 PM
Middleton bailing Lopez out. He faded way back on the screen instead of guarding against the three.

i'm_still_beta
09-06-2020, 05:23 PM
Middleton:worthy:

Robz4000
09-06-2020, 05:24 PM
Tyler Herro tbh.

i'm_still_beta
09-06-2020, 05:28 PM
Not a good look for Giannis

dbreiden83080
09-06-2020, 05:31 PM
I know he's struggled but what a great game from Middleton. 36 Pts and was clutch..

Clipper Nation
09-06-2020, 05:33 PM
Jimmy hasn't been very impressive this series, tbh.

gambit1990
09-06-2020, 05:35 PM
Not a good look for Giannis
it's the opposite tbh.

now no one can say giannis got swept. middleton helped giannis legacy from being more tarnished.

RD2191
09-06-2020, 05:41 PM
MVP:lol

Spurtacular
09-06-2020, 06:16 PM
Brook Lopez on the court.
Jeff Van Gundy: "The Bucks just don't have any size on the court right now."

:lol

Bynumite
09-06-2020, 06:25 PM
Props to the bucks but as usual the refereeing was god awful down the stretch.

Michael Jordan.
09-06-2020, 06:45 PM
Lol Giannis the pussy wearing a walking boot and his team wins without him

bdictjames
09-06-2020, 06:53 PM
Are the Bucks better with Middleton as the focal point of the offense? Giannis can play like a Jokic role.

DAF86
09-06-2020, 06:57 PM
Lol Giannis the pussy wearing a walking boot and his team wins without him

Still better than getting blown out at home on an elimination game by a Kawhi-less Spurs, tbh.

Michael Jordan.
09-06-2020, 06:59 PM
Still better than getting blown out at home on an elimination game by a Kawhi-less Spurs, tbh.
Where are the Spurs this year?

Michael Jordan.
09-06-2020, 07:00 PM
Imagine calling Middleton trash just to prop up that Greek piece of shit

DAF86
09-06-2020, 07:03 PM
Where are the Spurs this year?

The fuck does that have to do with anything? Are you 12? :lol

Michael Jordan.
09-06-2020, 07:23 PM
The fuck does that have to do with anything? Are you 12? :lol
You brought them up. So I asked where are they this year?

DAF86
09-06-2020, 07:32 PM
You brought them up. So I asked where are they this year?

The Spurs weren't the point, tbh, the point was Harden choking a playoffs game at home vs a team that was lacking its best player, tbh.

Kawhitstorm
09-06-2020, 10:58 PM
:lmao Are you trolling or that dense? He intentionally destroyed his value, leading to a trade that otherwise wouldn't have been considered, which taints it. They were also a top 5 team beforehand.

As for the injuries, it was the best and fourth best players on the best team, with the fifth-seventh best playing hurt.

Yeah a top 5 REGULAR SEASON team that consistently struggled in the postseason & got annihilated by every version of the Cavs so FOH with that narrative.

As far as injuries, OG missed the entire postseason & Kawhi was playing on one leg but still thoroughly outplayed the Duds who pulled two games out of their ass when the Raptors let their guard down otherwise could have EASILY been a sweep. Kawhi essential ended them in Gm 4 at the Oracle despite Klay/Looney going off meanwhile Harden/CPlea-3 choked with a team built to defeat the Duds.

Kawhi NEVER had a team built around him but instead had to play alongside Carmelo 2.0 & waste his prime for the duration of Fatty Mills contract.

Kawhitstorm
09-06-2020, 11:05 PM
How many times has he had the most complete team in the league plus opponent injury luck? Given him those circumstances, he'd have two too, cuckold.

:lmao Souped up Bowen winning Finals MVP as a nod to James, then unwittingly concocting pristine circumstances to win another. Tainted as can be.

Yeah, Bruce Bowen would have OFFENSIVELY outplayed PEAK LeBrat (who padded his stats in garbage time) for 3 straight games including taking over a pivotal game on the road (Gm 3).

What you said is true for Iggy who won the MVP for making corner 3s while being guarded by Mozgov & playing worse defense on a gassed LeBrat than Jimmy Butler during the same postseason.

Kawhitstorm
09-06-2020, 11:40 PM
Who cares? They're meaningless if not earned. That's what casual fans/cuckolds like you don't get. He's right there with Durant.

Let’s see, Kawhi had to beat the Warriors with Softridge/Fatty Mills otherwise it “wasn’t earned” b/c Siakam/Van Vleet. Essentially, the competition loading up is fair game but the subject has to play with different rules. Got it!

Had ShittyFO made the Paul George trade then it would have been all fine & dandy but no bueno since it’s the Clippers:lol

TD 21
09-07-2020, 12:04 AM
Yeah a top 5 REGULAR SEASON team that consistently struggled in the postseason & got annihilated by every version of the Cavs so FOH with that narrative.

As far as injuries, OG missed the entire postseason & Kawhi was playing on one leg but still thoroughly outplayed the Duds who pulled two games out of their ass when the Raptors let their guard down otherwise could have EASILY been a sweep. Kawhi essential ended them in Gm 4 at the Oracle despite Klay/Looney going off meanwhile Harden/CPlea-3 choked with a team built to defeat the Duds.

Kawhi NEVER had a team built around him but instead had to play alongside Carmelo 2.0 & waste his prime for the duration of Fatty Mills contract.

Still, Siakam, Van Vleet and Powell took a quantum leap and James left the conference. Of course they were never winning shit with DeRozan; that's not the point. But let's not pretend they're not ideally suited for virtually any superstar.

They were hurt, the Warriors were injured.

Scumbag had a way better team around him in '16 and '17 than plenty of superstars from the past ever did (Garnett, McGrady, Iverson, etc.) and had he waited five minutes, he'd have had the perfect perimeter compliment in White.



Yeah, Bruce Bowen would have OFFENSIVELY outplayed PEAK LeBrat (who padded his stats in garbage time) for 3 straight games including taking over a pivotal game on the road (Gm 3).

What you said is true for Iggy who won the MVP for making corner 3s while being guarded by Mozgov & playing worse defense on a gassed LeBrat than Jimmy Butler during the same postseason.

:lmao James destroyed Scumbag in the '14 Finals, the Spurs were just playing as well as any team ever had to supersede it. Scumbag was a role player and wasn't tasked with creating offense.



Let’s see, Kawhi had to beat the Warriors with Softridge/Fatty Mills otherwise it “wasn’t earned” b/c Siakam/Van Vleet. Essentially, the competition loading up is fair game but the subject has to play with different rules. Got it!

Had ShittyFO made the Paul George trade then it would have been all fine & dandy but no bueno since it’s the Clippers:lol

The '19 Warriors were not the same beast as the '17 Warriors, even had they been at full strength. If it's all about results without context, then Durant is also a 2 time champion/Finals MVP.

:lmao Like they had the assets for George. You can't just up and decide you want a top 15 player because these two divas supposedly wanted to play together back then. Again, you're conveniently leaving out the context. He blackmailed the Clippers, who give up a good prospect and 5 1sts because George wasn't actually available. That's the definition of gaming the system.

Kawhitstorm
09-07-2020, 12:29 AM
Still, Siakam, Van Vleet and Powell took a quantum leap and James left the conference. Of course they were never winning shit with DeRozan; that's not the point. But let's not pretend they're not ideally suited for virtually any superstar.

They were hurt, the Warriors were injured.

Scumbag had a way better team around him in '16 and '17 than plenty of superstars from the past ever did (Garnett, McGrady, Iverson, etc.) and had he waited five minutes, he'd have had the perfect perimeter compliment in White.




:lmao James destroyed Scumbag in the '14 Finals, the Spurs were just playing as well as any team ever had to supersede it. Scumbag was a role player and wasn't tasked with creating offense.




The '19 Warriors were not the same beast as the '17 Warriors, even had they been at full strength. If it's all about results without context, then Durant is also a 2 time champion/Finals MVP.

:lmao Like they had the assets for George. You can't just up and decide you want a top 15 player because these two divas supposedly wanted to play together back then. Again, you're conveniently leaving out the context. He blackmailed the Clippers, who give up a good prospect and 5 1sts because George wasn't actually available. That's the definition of gaming the system.

Dumbass, my point isn’t about the specificities of the Paul George trade (Morey would have made it happen due to being “blackmailed” by Harden) but the FACT you WOULDN’T say shyt just like when Softridge joined the Spurs in exchanged for washed up Diaw. But...but...but...blackmail :cry (ShittyFO also turned down Lowry in free agency)

LMAO at the second coming of John Starks being the “perfect” compliment on a legit contender in 2020 :lmao

Siakam/Van Vleet/Powell (all of whom got to play their preferred on-ball offense with Kawhi) would have taken a quantum leap to being swept in the 2nd round without Daddy Kawhi (imagine Giannis & Siakam fitting in “perfectly”:wow). Frauden on the Raptors would have been souped up DeFrozen choke job too. (Basically, put the last 3 MVPs on the Raptors & they wouldn’t have rang)

Choke-P/Frauden choked against a Beta-less Duds squad, Kawhi would have finished the job.

TD 21
09-07-2020, 11:03 AM
Dumbass, my point isn’t about the specificities of the Paul George trade (Morey would have made it happen due to being “blackmailed” by Harden) but the FACT you WOULDN’T say shyt just like when Softridge joined the Spurs in exchanged for washed up Diaw. But...but...but...blackmail :cry (ShittyFO also turned down Lowry in free agency)

LMAO at the second coming of John Starks being the “perfect” compliment on a legit contender in 2020 :lmao

Siakam/Van Vleet/Powell (all of whom got to play their preferred on-ball offense with Kawhi) would have taken a quantum leap to being swept in the 2nd round without Daddy Kawhi (imagine Giannis & Siakam fitting in “perfectly”:wow). Frauden on the Raptors would have been souped up DeFrozen choke job too. (Basically, put the last 3 MVPs on the Raptors & they wouldn’t have rang)

Choke-P/Frauden choked against a Beta-less Duds squad, Kawhi would have finished the job.

Harden didn't blackmail the Rockets and neither did Aldridge the Spurs, who were a team in transition (which you claimed sucked), genius.

:lmao At comparing Starks to Lowry. The former was never anywhere near a top 15ish regular season player.

I meant individually they did. Of course Scumbag took them over the top, but let's not act like he joined some mediocre team and didn't catch a bunch of breaks. The majority of MVP caliber players easily "win" that championship.

Scumbag "choked" in '15 and '16, only to quit in '17 and rest 110 games over 3 years to be in peak form.

i'm_still_beta
09-07-2020, 01:18 PM
it's the opposite tbh.

now no one can say giannis got swept. middleton helped giannis legacy from being more tarnished.

They were down again with him but they came back (they were down just 2 points okay) and won without him. It's even worse than being swept tbh

Kawhitstorm
09-08-2020, 02:04 AM
Harden didn't blackmail the Rockets and neither did Aldridge the Spurs, who were a team in transition (which you claimed sucked), genius.

:lmao At comparing Starks to Lowry. The former was never anywhere near a top 15ish regular season player.

I meant individually they did. Of course Scumbag took them over the top, but let's not act like he joined some mediocre team and didn't catch a bunch of breaks. The majority of MVP caliber players easily "win" that championship.

Scumbag "choked" in '15 and '16, only to quit in '17 and rest 110 games over 3 years to be in peak form.

He “choked” to a 2-2 record, “rested” 110 games & still has two FMVP. Sounds like a legend only matched by ‘96 Jorn:smokin

BTW, Harden literally said “there will be changes coming” at his post choke press conference last season & had Morey ship out Choke-P despite him being the one that did most of the choking.

I was also referring to White but now that I think about it, Lowry is John Starks with BS foul benefits.:lol

TD 21
09-08-2020, 10:57 AM
He “choked” to a 2-2 record, “rested” 110 games & still has two FMVP. Sounds like a legend only matched by ‘96 Jorn:smokin

BTW, Harden literally said “there will be changes coming” at his post choke press conference last season & had Morey ship out Choke-P despite him being the one that did most of the choking.

I was also referring to White but now that I think about it, Lowry is John Starks with BS foul benefits.:lol

He was a role player in '14 and needed contrived/tainted circumstances in '19. He's created those same circumstances in '20 and beyond. He's a pussy, who'd be getting a fraction of the credit he does had he remained a Spur, which was clearly a factor in his no longer wanting to be one.

Fine, but he didn't give them an ultimatum of Westbrook or else. He wanted it, but that's different.

Lowry does get "BS foul benefits". I'll give you that one.

TDMVPDPOY
09-08-2020, 07:04 PM
greek god going to get hakeem by jimmy

Spurtacular
09-08-2020, 08:09 PM
Brook Lopez sure is one stupid motherfucker.

DAF86
09-08-2020, 08:14 PM
Bucks totally outplayed.

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Bucks have joined the VIP section of the exclusive Silver and Black 8! club :lol

Kawhitstorm
09-08-2020, 08:18 PM
He was a role player in '14 and needed contrived/tainted circumstances in '19. He's created those same circumstances in '20 and beyond. He's a pussy, who'd be getting a fraction of the credit he does had he remained a Spur, which was clearly a factor in his no longer wanting to be one.

Correct, he dumped ShittyFO who got on their high horse after misdiagnosing a player multiple times & had settled for mediocrity. “But...but...but....why wasn’t he a beta pussy & bow down to pressure from washed up Evita/Enrique.:cry” (c) Cucks Inc.


Fine, but he didn't give them an ultimatum of Westbrook or else. He wanted it, but that's different.

Yeah, Harden didn’t become a human traffic cone out of pity when he wanted Dwight gone & he actually hasn’t won shyt.

Regular season chumps like Frauden/WestBrick/Giannis won’t sit out a regular season game b/c they need to mitigated for their postseason choke jobs by padding their stats. Kawhi is already a top 25 player all-time thus he could sit in the middle of the court & eat a sandwich during a regular season game without tarnish his legacy but please cry until the cows come home b/c he already gave y’all the bird.

Spurtacular
09-08-2020, 08:19 PM
Brook Lopez sure is one stupid motherfucker.

And the Bucks can't challenge the obvious foul because dumb ass tells his coach to challenge a play because obviously smacking a guy in the face is not a foul.

phxspurfan
09-08-2020, 08:20 PM
Wow Iggy is the worst most TOSB player in the game today

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 08:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Bucks/status/1207868665355546625?s=19

:lol

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 08:25 PM
8! :rollin :lmao :rollin

lefty
09-08-2020, 08:25 PM
Well that was fast

Robz4000
09-08-2020, 08:29 PM
Bucks have joined the VIP section of the exclusive Silver and Black 8! club :lol


8! :rollin :lmao :rollin

The Heat were the fifth seed, Juan Carlos.

D-Wade
09-08-2020, 08:32 PM
ECF baby! Herro is no 20 year old rook.

lefty
09-08-2020, 08:33 PM
ECF baby! Herro is no 20 year old rook.

Magic Johnson was

lefty
09-08-2020, 08:34 PM
The Heat were the fifth seed, Juan Carlos.
Different maths and logic in Mexico, which explains the slightly higher BMI

Spurtacular
09-08-2020, 08:42 PM
Middleton's not even a 1B.
Asking him to carry the team for more than a game was too much.
Greek black guy Kawhit on him.

DAF86
09-08-2020, 10:04 PM
The Heat were the fifth seed, Juan Carlos.

Yeah, I kept reading his posts like "qué pedo con este buey?" :lol

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 10:50 PM
The Heat were the fifth seed, Juan Carlos.

Oh. :lmao

That actually makes your Spurs look even worse :lol

Robz4000
09-08-2020, 10:54 PM
Oh. :lmao

That actually makes your Spurs look even worse :lol

:lol not as bad as your math comprehension apparently

Capt Bringdown
09-08-2020, 10:58 PM
Bucks are excruciating to watch even when healthy - like watching paint dry. I glad to see them out on aesthetics alone.
Regular season wonders

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 11:02 PM
:lol not as bad as your math comprehension apparently

:rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan
09-08-2020, 11:57 PM
https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1303506781780361216?s=19

Magic lowkey tampering :lol

Arcadian
09-09-2020, 12:05 AM
Imagine being a back-to-back MVP + DPOY and getting outshined by a 3rd tier star like Jimmy Butler.

TD 21
09-09-2020, 03:58 PM
Correct, he dumped ShittyFO who got on their high horse after misdiagnosing a player multiple times & had settled for mediocrity. “But...but...but....why wasn’t he a beta pussy & bow down to pressure from washed up Evita/Enrique.:cry” (c) Cucks Inc.



Yeah, Harden didn’t become a human traffic cone out of pity when he wanted Dwight gone & he actually hasn’t won shyt.

Regular season chumps like Frauden/WestBrick/Giannis won’t sit out a regular season game b/c they need to mitigated for their postseason choke jobs by padding their stats. Kawhi is already a top 25 player all-time thus he could sit in the middle of the court & eat a sandwich during a regular season game without tarnish his legacy but please cry until the cows come home b/c he already gave y’all the bird.

:lmao Misdiagnosed based on what? His punk ass being unwilling to tell the truth, which is that he wanted adulation and fame that was not going to be attainable here. He is a beta pussy, which is why he had his uncle arguing on his behalf through unethical media types.

Again, no ultimatum though. This puke ostensibly told them George or else. Deep down he knows he got lucky last season and isn't equipped to take a run of the mill very good team to a championship, so he gamed the system.

I never gave a shit about him playing here and I was never a fan. All I wanted was a package commensurate for a player of his caliber. Had he gone through the process like a pro, I'd have been cool with it.

Kawhitstorm
09-09-2020, 05:54 PM
:lmao Misdiagnosed based on what? His punk ass being unwilling to tell the truth, which is that he wanted adulation and fame that was not going to be attainable here. He is a beta pussy, which is why he had his uncle arguing on his behalf through unethical media types.

Yeah, he wanted "adulation and fame" which explain why he left Toronto when he was the toast of the town.:sleep


Again, no ultimatum though. This puke ostensibly told them George or else. Deep down he knows he got lucky last season and isn't equipped to take a run of the mill very good team to a championship, so he gamed the system

Now I understand your senseless logic, a free agent is supposed to sign THEN demand that they trade the whole farm like LeBrat as opposed to asking that his demands be met otherwise he has other options. Please explain to me what he OWED the Clipper when he literally was a FREE AGENT?


I never gave a shit about him playing here and I was never a fan. All I wanted was a package commensurate for a player of his caliber. Had he gone through the process like a pro, I'd have been cool with it.

WTF are you talking about, you are literally a deranged friend who's furious that their BFF's partner moved-on & had no interest in explain to you the reason behind it b/c it's none of you business (ShittyFO themselves didn't elaborate beside high-horse passive aggressive statements). Pop/Kawhi shook hands & moved-on, maybe you will get over it when Kawhi piss on your grave.

TD 21
09-09-2020, 09:35 PM
Yeah, he wanted "adulation and fame" which explain why he left Toronto when he was the toast of the town.:sleep



Now I understand your senseless logic, a free agent is supposed to sign THEN demand that they trade the whole farm like LeBrat as opposed to asking that his demands be met otherwise he has other options. Please explain to me what he OWED the Clipper when he literally was a FREE AGENT?



WTF are you talking about, you are literally a deranged friend who's furious that their BFF's partner moved-on & had no interest in explain to you the reason behind it b/c it's none of you business (ShittyFO themselves didn't elaborate beside high-horse passive aggressive statements). Pop/Kawhi shook hands & moved-on, maybe you will get over it when Kawhi piss on your grave.

He's a superstar, he'll be the toast of any town, genius. And as much as hipster media slobber over them, things like national TV appearances, commercials, etc., are all easier to come by in a market like L.A. By the way, since he apparently wanted out over disagreement of diagnosis/treatment, why was it L.A. or the highway?

James has never played on a complete team and like most, has wanted general needs filled. This puke cherry picked the guy coming off a 3rd place MVP finish and said him or the highway and the team was good beforehand.

Nah, I'm pissed that he sent this franchise back years with his antics, Harlem. And I don't care about Pop's fake made for TV moment. That's what he does when he's embarrassed. The truth is, this organization has too much class/not enough balls to call him out for quitting.

daslicer
09-09-2020, 09:37 PM
He's a superstar, he'll be the toast of any town, genius. And as much as hipster media slobber over them, things like national TV appearances, commercials, etc., are all easier to come by in a market like L.A. By the way, since he apparently wanted out over disagreement of diagnosis/treatment, why was it L.A. or the highway?

James has never played on a complete team and like most, has wanted general needs filled. This puke cherry picked the guy coming off a 3rd place MVP finish and said him or the highway and the team was good beforehand.

Nah, I'm pissed that he sent this franchise back years with his antics, Harlem. And I don't care about Pop's fake made for TV moment. That's what he does when he's embarrassed. The truth is, this organization hasn't gotten over it.

Very obvious Kawhitshitstorm is a Harlem alt.

DAF86
09-09-2020, 09:39 PM
Kawhitstorm trying to convince us (and himself) that Faggwhi leaving San Antonio and Toronto wasn't all about uncle wanting to go to LA to try and sell his unsellabale dumbass nephew. :lol

Kawhitstorm
09-09-2020, 10:14 PM
He's a superstar, he'll be the toast of any town, genius. And as much as hipster media slobber over them, things like national TV appearances, commercials, etc., are all easier to come by in a market like L.A. By the way, since he apparently wanted out over disagreement of diagnosis/treatment, why was it L.A. or the highway?

How is hard to understand that ONCE the disagreement with the team reached a point of no return that he requested to go back to HIS HOMETOWN as opposed to some random city he has no connection with whatsoever. If it was like the Carmelo situation then he would have signed with the Knicks instead of being a second class citizen with the Clippers. If anything, he should be commended for turning down the Lakers.


James has never played on a complete team and like most, has wanted general needs filled. This puke cherry picked the guy coming off a 3rd place MVP finish and said him or the highway and the team was good beforehand.

It’s hilarious to me that folks consider the Clippers a “complete team” when they don’t have a legit point guard or center. Paul George finished 3rd in MVP but he’s barley a top 10 player on his best days & Clippers gave up Gallo/SGA who were key pieces to last years squad along with Tobias. Besides, Harrell/Lou are flawed players who can easily get exploited in the postseason. They would need someone like prime Horford to even be compared to the Heatles b/c Morris ain’t seeing Bosh. (Playoff P also can’t hold a candle to ‘10-‘12 Wade)

DAF86
09-09-2020, 11:47 PM
How is hard to understand that ONCE the disagreement with the team reached a point of no return that he requested to go back to HIS HOMETOWN as opposed to some random city he has no connection with whatsoever. If it was like the Carmelo situation then he would have signed with the Knicks instead of being a second class citizen with the Clippers. If anything, he should be commended for turning down the Lakers.



It’s hilarious to me that folks consider the Clippers a “complete team” when they don’t have a legit point guard or center. Paul George finished 3rd in MVP but he’s barley a top 10 player on his best days & Clippers gave up Gallo/SGA who were key pieces to last years squad along with Tobias. Besides, Harrell/Lou are flawed players who can easily get exploited in the postseason. They would need someone like prime Horford to even be compared to the Heatles b/c Morris ain’t seeing Bosh. (Playoff P also can’t hold a candle to ‘10-‘12 Wade)

And after spending a full year on Toronto with a franchise that did everything on their power to accomodate to his every demand and allowed him to ring, he didn't find it in him to stay? Stop trying to defend uncle's greedy ass son. :lol

Kawhitstorm
09-10-2020, 12:09 AM
And after spending a full year on Toronto with a franchise that did everything on their power to accomodate to his every demand and allowed him to ring, he didn't find it in him to stay? Stop trying to defend uncle's greedy ass son. :lol

You mean the same franchise that dumped a loyal servant the minute they got an offer? :sleep

Kawhi popped an entire nation's cherry at the cost of DeFrozen's contract, what more was left for him to do? Lead Team Canada to a Gold medal? (Probably would have had a better shot than Missy)

DAF86
09-10-2020, 12:20 AM
You mean the same franchise that dumped a loyal servant the minute they got an offer? :sleep

Kawhi popped an entire nation's cherry at the cost of DeFrozen's contract, what more was left for him to do? Lead Team Canada to a Gold medal? (Probably would have had a better shot than Missy)

Damn son, that's some major semen shielding you doing here. There's an excuse for everything. :lol

Choose your battles son. Kawhi is the best player in the World. He's primed to win his third finals MVP with a 3rd different team. There's a bunch of stuff you could be talking about. Trying to justify uncle's greedy backstabing ass is not one of them, tbh.

Kawhitstorm
09-10-2020, 01:04 AM
Damn son, that's some major semen shielding you doing here. There's an excuse for everything. :lol

Choose your battles son. Kawhi is the best player in the World. He's primed to win his third finals MVP with a 3rd different team. There's a bunch of stuff you could be talking about. Trying to justify uncle's greedy backstabing ass is not one of them, tbh.

I truly don't understand folks frowning about FREE AGENT Kawhi choosing to play in his hometown AFTER delivering a championship for a team that wasn't even built around him in the first place unlike LeBrat & the Heatles/Cavs. Literally, the cost of acquiring Kawhi was dumping DeFrozen's contract which by itself was a win for Masai. (Mavs didn't even offer Chandler a contract after he delivered a chip in a similar situation but free agent players supposedly "owe" their team)

DAF86
09-10-2020, 01:30 AM
I truly don't understand folks frowning about FREE AGENT Kawhi choosing to play in his hometown AFTER delivering a championship for a team that wasn't even built around him in the first place unlike LeBrat & the Heatles/Cavs. Literally, the cost of acquiring Kawhi was dumping DeFrozen's contract which by itself was a win for Masai. (Mavs didn't even offer Chandler a contract after he delivered a chip in a similar situation but free agent players supposedly "owe" their team)

You can bet your ass Kawhi wouldn't have felt homesick if his home town was Charlotte, tbh.

":cry trade me to the Hornets and only the Hornets. I wanna be Home :cry"

Yeah, right. :lol

Kawhitstorm
09-10-2020, 01:50 AM
You can bet your ass Kawhi wouldn't have felt homesick if his home town was Charlotte, tbh.

":cry trade me to the Hornets and only the Hornets. I wanna be Home :cry"

Yeah, right. :lol

If he can have his cake & eat it too then why not?

LkrFan
09-10-2020, 07:38 AM
https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1303774046220296192?s=19

:lol

TD 21
09-10-2020, 03:39 PM
How is hard to understand that ONCE the disagreement with the team reached a point of no return that he requested to go back to HIS HOMETOWN as opposed to some random city he has no connection with whatsoever. If it was like the Carmelo situation then he would have signed with the Knicks instead of being a second class citizen with the Clippers. If anything, he should be commended for turning down the Lakers.



It’s hilarious to me that folks consider the Clippers a “complete team” when they don’t have a legit point guard or center. Paul George finished 3rd in MVP but he’s barley a top 10 player on his best days & Clippers gave up Gallo/SGA who were key pieces to last years squad along with Tobias. Besides, Harrell/Lou are flawed players who can easily get exploited in the postseason. They would need someone like prime Horford to even be compared to the Heatles b/c Morris ain’t seeing Bosh. (Playoff P also can’t hold a candle to ‘10-‘12 Wade)

You don't know that and people with proven connections have said he'd wanted to go back to L.A. for a while, before the disagreement. That was just the excuse that he could sell to the public because he couldn't sell winning or lack thereof, nor not being the face of the franchise, etc. Why would he have chosen the Lakers, where'd he'd have been buried in James' shadow and gotten no credit for them and Davis running roughshod over the league?

You don't need a "legit PG" when you have Scumbag, George and Williams to primarily handle the ball, you need 3 and D Beverley. Zubac/Harrell/Green (small ball) haven proven sufficient C's for this team/era. So their 2nd best player is "only" a top 10-15 player at his best? Yeah, you're right, I feel real sorry for him.

daslicer
09-10-2020, 03:42 PM
You don't know that and people with proven connections have said he'd wanted to go back to L.A. for a while, before the disagreement. That was just the excuse that he could sell to the public because he couldn't sell winning or lack thereof, nor not being the face of the franchise, etc. Why would he have chosen the Lakers, where'd he'd have been buried in James' shadow and gotten no credit for them and Davis running roughshod over the league?

You don't need a "legit PG" when you have Scumbag, George and Williams to primarily handle the ball, you need 3 and D Beverley. Zubac/Harrell/Green (small ball) haven proven sufficient C's for this team/era. So their 2nd best player is "only" a top 10-15 player at his best? Yeah, you're right, I feel real sorry for him.

:lmao

lefty
09-10-2020, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1303774046220296192?s=19

:lol

:lol

Kawhitstorm
09-13-2020, 01:55 AM
So their 2nd best player is "only" a top 10-15 player at his best? Yeah, you're right, I feel real sorry for him.

So, the likes of Lemon Pepper Lou/Harrell/Shamet make up for the fact that LeBrat on the Heatles had TWO wingmen as good or better than Playoff P + an all-time postseason performer in Ray Allen + vets like Battier/Harlem/Miller?:lmao

TD 21
09-13-2020, 10:32 AM
So, the likes of Lemon Pepper Lou/Harrell/Shamet make up for the fact that LeBrat on the Heatles had TWO wingmen as good or better than Playoff P + an all-time postseason performer in Ray Allen + vets like Battier/Harlem/Miller?:lmao

The difference is, the Clippers pieces fit much better than the Heat's ever did (mainly James/Wade) and they have significantly better depth. The Heat also had no credible center back when that still mattered.

Kawhitstorm
09-13-2020, 04:58 PM
The difference is, the Clippers pieces fit much better than the Heat's ever did (mainly James/Wade) and they have significantly better depth. The Heat also had no credible center back when that still mattered.

-Yeah, the Lou/Harrell being the defacto 3rd wheel & the backbone of the "depth" is optimal:lol
-Wade/LeBrat didn't perfectly "fit" b/c the Kang couldn't play off the ball :sleep

-They literally killed teams with Bosh playing center but somehow didn't have a "credible" center.........I guess he same was true for the Duds:cry

TD 21
09-13-2020, 06:32 PM
-Yeah, the Lou/Harrell being the defacto 3rd wheel & the backbone of the "depth" is optimal:lol
-Wade/LeBrat didn't perfectly "fit" b/c the Kang couldn't play off the ball :sleep

-They literally killed teams with Bosh playing center but somehow didn't have a "credible" center.........I guess he same was true for the Duds:cry

:lmao No basic reading comprehension, just constant spin and deflection.

Nah, they didn't fit because Wade couldn't shoot 3s.

Offensively, but the most important job of a center will always be defensive anchor and Bosh was not that. He was a good p-n-r defender, but was poor in the post/defensive glass and mediocre protecting the rim.

Kawhitstorm
09-13-2020, 07:08 PM
Nah, they didn't fit because Wade couldn't shoot 3s.

Offensive but the most important job of a center will always be defensive anchor and Bosh was not that. He was a good p-n-r defender, but was poor in the post/defensive glass and mediocre protecting the rim.

:lmao No basic reading comprehension, just constant spin and deflection.

Nah, they didn't fit because Wade couldn't shoot 3s.
Bosh was the best PnR defender at the center position which more valuable than having a DPOY rim protector like Gobert who got played off the court in multiple series.:lol

Besides, Wade was an elite cutter & midrange shooter which is why they were able to co-exist once LeBrat became for defacto point guard.

TD 21
09-13-2020, 07:17 PM
:lmao No basic reading comprehension, just constant spin and deflection.

Nah, they didn't fit because Wade couldn't shoot 3s.
Bosh was the best PnR defender at the center position which more valuable than having a DPOY rim protector like Gobert who got played off the court in multiple series.:lol

Besides, Wade was an elite cutter & midrange shooter which is why they were able to co-exist once LeBrat became for defacto point guard.

Not back then it wasn't.

He was an elite cutter but the reason they co-existed was overwhelming talent/basketball IQ.

Kawhitstorm
09-13-2020, 07:27 PM
Not back then it wasn't.

He was an elite cutter but the reason they co-existed was overwhelming talent/basketball IQ.

Yeah, the needed Diop to check Perkins/Noah on the block

Heat played switching/blitizing defense which was only made possible due to Bosh’s mobility.

TD 21
09-13-2020, 11:44 PM
Yeah, the needed Diop to check Perkins/Noah on the block

Heat played switching/blitizing defense which was only made possible due to Bosh’s mobility.

Nah, but they sure could have used someone like that in the back half of the '13 Finals, when 37 year old, one legged Duncan was destroying Bosh.

I realize that, but that was to leverage their athleticism and attempt to cover up the fact that they didn't have a rim protector by trying to keep the ball away from the rim as much as possible. If they had one, they wouldn't have had to resort to such a taxing style.

Kawhitstorm
09-14-2020, 08:28 AM
Nah, but they sure could have used someone like that in the back half of the '13 Finals, when 37 year old, one legged Duncan was destroying Bosh.

I realize that, but that was to leverage their athleticism and attempt to cover up the fact that they didn't have a rim protector by trying to keep the ball away from the rim as much as possible. If they had one, they wouldn't have had to resort to such a taxing style.

Duh, they played blitzing defense to force turnovers & use their athleticism to feast in transition (Bulls did the same to great success). Tim had Dragic run circles around him in ‘10 & literally got benched for :lolSplitter:lol in ‘13 against the Duds b/c he couldn’t cover high PnRs. He also got benched in the infamous Gm 6 due to the same reason when none other than Bosh got the rebound. :(

Among versatile centers of that era, besides prime Wallace/KG/Dwight even Chandler/Noah used to get worked in the post by Hibbert/Nene. We all know what happened to DeAndre when he was being touted as Bill Russell in the same series Choke-P picked on Timmay for the biggest shot of his career.:lol

TD 21
09-14-2020, 10:34 AM
Duh, they played blitzing defense to force turnovers & use their athleticism to feast in transition (Bulls did the same to great success). Tim had Dragic run circles around him in ‘10 & literally got benched for :lolSplitter:lol in ‘13 against the Duds b/c he couldn’t cover high PnRs. He also got benched in the infamous Gm 6 due to the same reason when none other than Bosh got the rebound. :(

Among versatile centers of that era, besides prime Wallace/KG/Dwight even Chandler/Noah used to get worked in the post by Hibbert/Nene. We all know what happened to DeAndre when he was being touted as Bill Russell in the same series Choke-P picked on Timmay for the biggest shot of his career.:lol

He was old, on one leg and none of that has to do with what we were discussing. More spin/deflection. Bottom line: Your boy, with his pristine roster, is wetting the bed and on the verge of a colossal collapse.

Kawhitstorm
09-14-2020, 11:42 AM
He was old, on one leg and none of that has to do with what we were discussing. More spin/deflection. Bottom line: Your boy, with his pristine roster, is wetting the bed and on the verge of a colossal collapse.

So “pristine”, the 6MoY duo is boarderline unplayable :lol (Can’t forget scout Landry “Ray Allen” Shamet:wow)

Btw, I agree that the Heatles should have replaced Bosh with ‘94 Hakeem.:cry

TD 21
09-14-2020, 03:22 PM
So “pristine”, the 6MoY duo is boarderline unplayable :lol (Can’t forget scout Landry “Ray Allen” Shamet:wow)

Btw, I agree that the Heatles should have replaced Bosh with ‘94 Hakeem.:cry

Say what you want about Jackson, but to put their depth in perspective, he'd be the third option on the Lakers . . . he's a fringe-non rotation player on the Clippers.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. :rolleyes

Kawhitstorm
09-14-2020, 06:51 PM
Say what you want about Jackson, but to put their depth in perspective, he'd be the third option on the Lakers . . . he's a fringe-non rotation player on the Clippers.

Lou has been benched for Reggie a couple of times this postseason due to his play. In any case, Waiters is a better 2-way player than either one & he doesn’t even get ticks.:lol


https://youtu.be/wUfEnnrebzQ

Btw, Kuzma has actually been trying on defense in the bubble & would cook Lou just like Porter Jr.

TD 21
09-15-2020, 02:58 PM
Lou has been benched for Reggie a couple of times this postseason due to his play. In any case, Waiters is a better 2-way player than either one & he doesn’t even get ticks.:lol


https://youtu.be/wUfEnnrebzQ

Btw, Kuzma has actually been trying on defense in the bubble & would cook Lou just like Porter Jr.

I know. Waiters is about 5 minutes away from being out of the league, while Jackson is 5 minutes removed from being a starter and second/third option on a playoff hopeful.

Even an off (washed?) version of Williams is better than Kuzma offensively.

Kawhitstorm
09-15-2020, 03:50 PM
I know. Waiters is about 5 minutes away from being out of the league, while Jackson is 5 minutes removed from being a starter and second/third option on a playoff hopeful.

Yeah, everyone knows Waiters almost got House’d due to basketball reasons. Reggie Jackson as the main playmaker on a bad team vs. as a role player on a contender are night/day. Waiters was the 3rd option on a team that had the Duds down 3-1 after he replaced none other than Reggie.

Waiters actually busted Reggie’s ass in the Bubble after being picked up off the streets too:oink


https://youtu.be/Tlx03MQnpzI



Even an off (washed?) version of Williams is better than Kuzma offensively.

Yeah, if he can actually hit spot up shots in the postseason ala TJ “salary dump” Warren otherwise dude is getting outplayed by Monte Morris after Trey Burke (another guy that was picked up off the streets) run circles around him in the 1st rd that he ended up getting benched for Reggie in Gm 6.

Guys like Lou/Reggie are pretty ubiquitous (nobody wanted Jamal Crawford although he can drop 50 on any given night), it’s just that they are mostly numbers guy on bad teams. 3-&-D (Austin Rivers being the floor) on the other hand is a different story. (Schroeder, after being given up for nothing, dramatically became valuable when he actually decided to try on defense)

Lou isn’t better for than a chucking traffic cone like Jordan Clarkson at this point of his career. Kuzma on the Knicks can average close to 20/10 while playing decent defense.

TD 21
09-15-2020, 04:56 PM
Yeah, everyone knows Waiters almost got House’d due to basketball reasons. Reggie Jackson as the main playmaker on a bad team vs. as a role player on a contender are night/day. Waiters was the 3rd option on a team that had the Duds down 3-1 after he replaced none other than Reggie.

Waiters actually busted Reggie’s ass in the Bubble after being picked up off the streets too:oink


https://youtu.be/Tlx03MQnpzI




Yeah, if he can actually hit spot up shots in the postseason ala TJ “salary dump” Warren otherwise dude is getting outplayed by Monte Morris after Trey Burke (another guy that was picked up off the streets) run circles around him in the 1st rd that he ended up getting benched for Reggie in Gm 6.

Guys like Lou/Reggie are pretty ubiquitous (nobody wanted Jamal Crawford although he can drop 50 on any given night), it’s just that they are mostly numbers guy on bad teams. 3-&-D (Austin Rivers being the floor) on the other hand is a different story. (Schroeder, after being given up for nothing, dramatically became valuable when he actually decided to try on defense)

Lou isn’t better for than a chucking traffic cone like Jordan Clarkson at this point of his career. Kuzma on the Knicks can average close to 20/10 while playing decent defense.

And yet, the Lakers pursued Jackson and only turned to Waiters once he spurned them.

Williams has historically been a clear cut better player that all of these types.

Kawhitstorm
09-15-2020, 06:11 PM
And yet, the Lakers pursued Jackson and only turned to Waiters once he spurned them.

Jackson signed with the Clippers b/c Playoff P is his BFF. Again, Waiters wasn’t as suited b/c of his baggage ala Dwight.


Williams has historically been a clear cut better player that all of these types.

Yeah, historically Melo has also been a clear cut better player than TJ Warren