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Dejounte
08-30-2020, 02:17 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/30/san-antonio-spurs-executives-discuss-their-new-vision-for-the-team-and-gregg-popovichs-future.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit .activity.PostToTwitter&__twitter_impression=true

Lots of good new information here. Spurs assume Pop will stay (duh).

Russ
08-30-2020, 02:25 PM
Great find.

Certainly beats debating endlessly whether Patrick Williams or Isaiah Stewart is the real deal . . .

K...
08-30-2020, 02:27 PM
This is a really good article about the front office, not so much about roster moves. Didn't know Spurs got a guy from Facebook to take over from Buford. Spyrs wasn't to expand to Mexico and Austin. Cashless concession purchase options.

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 02:28 PM
As a person interested in business organization, it's great to hear from RC what their vision is. "values based, culture focused, community engaged, and championship driven."


Great find.

Certainly beats debating endlessly whether Patrick Williams or Isaiah Stewart is the real deal . . .

Don't forget Jalen Smith.

Leetonidas
08-30-2020, 02:36 PM
At least is sounds like the FO knows they need to get their shit together

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 02:43 PM
At least is sounds like the FO knows they need to get their shit together

I think the way the Spurs manage their roster is similar to how a professional poker plays poker. Just look at the part in the article where it says a rival GM thinks the Spurs "overplayed their hand", I think it's a ridiculous notion that the price they set on their trade chips isn't calculated. If you constantly bet on your hand, you're not going to win the table. The best poker players know how to calculate the best risks.

Chinook
08-30-2020, 02:45 PM
It was a nice, in-depth piece. It was written by Jabari Young though, so you can take some of the stuff with a grain of salt. I don't really think the Spurs objectively "overplayed their hands" not dealing Aldridge. I think they were willing to deal him and just didn't get what they wanted. I think even more than DeRozan, they are willing to keep him though. Overplaying is possibly what they did with Kawhi, because they HAD to trade him and just mistimed the window to do so. That's completely different and totally a Jabari special.

Kurgan
08-30-2020, 02:48 PM
lol at RC not letting Wright speak. Bad look for someone that's supposed to be the gm. Either they know he's incompetent or he really is just Pop/Buford's puppet. Most powerless "general manager" in the league:

It's Wright's job to help fix the roster, and the NBA's economics around its 2020-21 salary cap will be critical. But having been promoted less than a year ago, Wright is still learning the Spurs' way. That came through on the Zoom call.

Asked how the Spurs can rebuild, Buford intercepted Wright's question.

"Jabari let me answer this one," Buford interrupted. "It's more fair for me to [answer] since I've been engaged in this for a long time."

Buford explained the Spurs have never been swayed by public opinion. To back this, he remembered calls to "blow it up" at the end of David Robinson's era, and then again at the end of 2009-10 season.

Buford said the Spurs would continue to address its roster "optimistically and opportunistically." He then mentioned Aldridge's signing, which translated to a Western Conference finals appearance in 2016.

"Things didn't go as we hoped, and it's not on anybody," Buford said. "Some decisions we wished we could've done differently, but I think having the ability to develop young talent and flexibility to be opportunistic is going to be what we're going to continue to do."

Chinook
08-30-2020, 02:49 PM
I think the way the Spurs manage their roster is similar to how a professional poker plays poker. Just look at the part in the article where it says a rival GM thinks the Spurs "overplayed their hand", I think it's a ridiculous notion that the price they set on their trade chips isn't calculated. If you constantly bet on your hand, you're not going to win the table. The best poker players know how to calculate the best risks.

That's part of it as well. For better or worse, the Spurs operate as if they have years to let plans come together. Trade value is not a linear function. Aldridge and DeRozan have extra utility as expiring contracts who are also really good players. There are going to be teams looking to get rid of bad money for next "summer" who will want to also field a competitive team. Portland is a shitty option for Aldridge, but he could be a good one for Miami. DeRozan could make sense for a number of teams that got a reality check about their talent.

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 02:52 PM
That's part of it as well. For better or worse, the Spurs operate as if they have years to let plans come together. Trade value is not a linear function. Aldridge and DeRozan have extra utility as expiring contracts who are also really good players. There are going to be teams looking to get rid of bad money for next "summer" who will want to also field a competitive team. Portland is a shitty option for Aldridge, but he could be a good one for Miami. DeRozan could make sense for a number of teams that got a reality check about their talent.

Exactly. Their veteran leadership probably has a positive impact for the young players behind closed doors. So many variables involved.

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 02:55 PM
Kurgan the rookie GM might not be trained in PR yet, and may share information that would compromise their leverage. I.E. letting it slip that they're looking for a package for DeMar. Think of the consequences.

KobesAchilles
08-30-2020, 02:56 PM
At least is sounds like the FO knows they need to get their shit together
Until the sign Bryn Forbes to a new 3 year $24 million contract

Sugus
08-30-2020, 03:09 PM
The first question on the Zoom call to Buford: In which areas are the Spurs currently weak?

"Are we only going to talk about the weaknesses," Buford answered.

He then spoke of the Spurs' values-based system, mentioned the team's 47 years in the NBA, making the postseason 39 times in that span, and a .599 winning percentage, best in league history.

:rollin

exstatic
08-30-2020, 03:20 PM
I’m wondering if anybody fact checks these. They stated that the Spurs have missed the playoffs 8 times, 39/47yrs. They’ve only missed them 5 times, including like 5 minutes ago.

That’s our Jabari, I guess.

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 03:29 PM
I’m wondering if anybody fact checks these. They stated that the Spurs have missed the playoffs 8 times, 39/47yrs. They’ve only missed them 5 times, including like 5 minutes ago.

That’s our Jabari, I guess.

I wonder why the Spurs permitted an interview like this with Jabari (cnbc) instead of local reporters on expressnews with Tom Orsborn? Seems odd if we all truly believe Jabari was on Kawhi's jock and had an anti-Spurs bias to all his previous reporting of the Spurs.

Truth4sale$
08-30-2020, 03:30 PM
Good article. Seems like Jabari is looking to create a little controversy or lack of confidence in the front office.
Very smart to look to find alternate sources for income.
Spurs might want to name a successor to Popovich or create a plan to keep coaches. Cant keep having talented coaches poached.

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 03:31 PM
Good article. Seems like Jabari is looking to create a little controversy or lack of confidence in the front office.
Very smart to look to find alternate sources for income.
Spurs might want to name a successor to Popovich or create a plan to keep coaches. Cant keep having talented coaches poached.

The Spurs (RC Buford) always preach that their actions are based on years ahead. Pretty sure they already have a plan for who is coaching after Pop.

playblair
08-30-2020, 03:32 PM
This is a really good article about the front office, not so much about roster moves. Didn't know Spurs got a guy from Facebook to take over from Buford. Spyrs wasn't to expand to Mexico and Austin. Cashless concession purchase options.
i have been telling people for a couple years now that the spurs plan on relocating to austin soon..........everyone doubted me well here is the proof......apologize to me........the new kid owners want to leave boring san antonio for austin & they feel it would solve the problem of not being able to sign high profile free agents.......spurs go from small market team to immediate free agent destination with the move

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 03:41 PM
LaMarcus Aldridge for the 16th pick from the Blazers. Not sure who needs to be added to make the salaries work. Draft Aaron Nesmith and Jalen Smith. Championships.

White/ DJ/ Q
Keldon/ Lonnie/ Mills
DeMar/ Hood/ Nesmith
Smith/ Lyles/ Ariza/ Luka
Poetl/ Eubanks/ Zach Collins

Kurgan
08-30-2020, 03:45 PM
i have been telling people for a couple years now that the spurs plan on relocating to austin soon..........everyone doubted me well here is the proof......apologize to me........the new kid owners want to leave boring san antonio for austin & they feel it would solve the problem of not being able to sign high profile free agents.......spurs go from small market team to immediate free agent destination with the move

By soon, you mean twelve years? That's how much time they have left on the lease.

lmbebo
08-30-2020, 03:50 PM
LaMarcus Aldridge for the 16th pick from the Blazers. Not sure who needs to be added to make the salaries work. Draft Aaron Nesmith and Jalen Smith. Championships.

Would do it, but not sure what happens on salary front ..

Edit - guess it works with Spurs getting Ariza, Collins and Hood

Russ
08-30-2020, 03:51 PM
I’m wondering if anybody fact checks these. They stated that the Spurs have missed the playoffs 8 times, 39/47yrs. They’ve only missed them 5 times, including like 5 minutes ago.

That’s our Jabari, I guess.

Just look at it this way -- the Lakers have missed the playoffs more in the last seven years than the Spurs have in their entire existence. :)

smush
08-30-2020, 04:19 PM
Just look at it this way -- the Lakers have missed the playoffs more in the last seven years than the Spurs have in their entire existence. :)


Lamarcus, Nurkic, and melo won’t work. Portland won’t do that.

Miami would have to send us Iguodala and one of their shooters.


If we have to take salary back after next year I would not do it.

mo7888
08-30-2020, 04:35 PM
Lamarcus, Nurkic, and melo won’t work. Portland won’t do that.

Miami would have to send us Iguodala and one of their shooters.


If we have to take salary back after next year I would not do it.

I think Miami offers KO + a pick + cap space

Russ
08-30-2020, 04:41 PM
I think Miami offers KO + a pick + cap space

NBA cap space is the most overrated "asset" in the history of organized sports.

exstatic
08-30-2020, 04:44 PM
Lamarcus, Nurkic, and melo won’t work. Portland won’t do that.

Miami would have to send us Iguodala and one of their shooters.


If we have to take salary back after next year I would not do it.
Nurkic would obviously have to be part of the return.

exstatic
08-30-2020, 04:45 PM
NBA cap space is the most overrated "asset" in the history of organized sports.

I don’t think they have capspace, but admittedly have checked their cap sheet in a year or so.

TD 21
08-30-2020, 04:47 PM
The Heat aren't dumb enough to pair Butler with DeRozan. With the former's recent aversion to shooting 3s and Adebayo's inability to shoot them, the fit would be terrible.

This has been discussed before, but 23 and Olynyk for Aldridge is probably the only realistic trade between the two teams. I doubt the Spurs would do it though.

If the Trail Blazers would do 16 plus requisite salary filler (Ariza, Hood, Hezonja, with Metu and Zeller waived to not exceed roster limit), maybe.

smush
08-30-2020, 04:48 PM
Nurkic would obviously have to be part of the return.
He has another year on his deal. I would only want him if Jakob leaves.

mo7888
08-30-2020, 04:49 PM
NBA cap space is the most overrated "asset" in the history of organized sports.

I agree...im just saying that's what i expect the offer to be.

phxspurfan
08-30-2020, 04:59 PM
Great find.

Certainly beats debating endlessly whether Patrick Williams or Isaiah Stewart is the real deal . . .

I despise those pre draft debates. Every year ST does it and the FO goes in a random direction that nobody predicted

phxspurfan
08-30-2020, 05:00 PM
The Heat aren't dumb enough to pair Butler with DeRozan. With the former's recent aversion to shooting 3s and Adebayo's inability to shoot them, the fit would be terrible.

This has been discussed before, but 23 and Olynyk for Aldridge is probably the only realistic trade between the two teams. I doubt the Spurs would do it though.

If the Trail Blazers would do 16 plus requisite salary filler (Ariza, Hood, Hezonja, with Metu and Zeller waived to not exceed roster limit), maybe.

Olynyk and a late first for LMA? wtf? Glad you aren't GM or anywhere near the FO.

TD 21
08-30-2020, 05:06 PM
Olynyk and a late first for LMA? wtf? Glad you aren't GM or anywhere near the FO.

I didn't say I'd necessarily do it, I said . . .


is probably the only realistic trade between the two teams.

Unfortunately, that's probably roughly Aldridge's value leaguewide.

exstatic
08-30-2020, 05:07 PM
He has another year on his deal. I would only want him if Jakob leaves.

Only a partial, like 4M.

phxspurfan
08-30-2020, 05:08 PM
I didn't say I'd necessarily do it, I said . . .



Unfortunately, that's probably roughly Aldridge's value leaguewide.

I think we could get Tobias Harris for LMA, or Kuz, or Lonzo Ball, etc etc

smush
08-30-2020, 05:12 PM
Only a partial, like 4M.

ok that’s different. I would take him. Does Portland think Aldridge is better than him for a 1 year rental? I guess if Dane dame signs off on it.

Dex
08-30-2020, 05:16 PM
It was a nice, in-depth piece. It was written by Jabari Young though, so you can take some of the stuff with a grain of salt. I don't really think the Spurs objectively "overplayed their hands" not dealing Aldridge. I think they were willing to deal him and just didn't get what they wanted. I think even more than DeRozan, they are willing to keep him though. Overplaying is possibly what they did with Kawhi, because they HAD to trade him and just mistimed the window to do so. That's completely different and totally a Jabari special.

Completely agree, it's all in the wording.

Spurs probably put Aldridge's name out there with a high price, and if someone was willing to bite, then great...they would have won the trade.

They weren't trying to move him and take a lesser deal just for the sake of moving him. He was and is still a valuable piece.

That is how you are supposed to negotiate.

TD 21
08-30-2020, 05:18 PM
I think we could get Tobias Harris for LMA, or Kuz, or Lonzo Ball, etc etc

Harris has an albatross (4 more years at the max), Kuzma wouldn't work financially, isn't good and the Lakers wouldn't do it (fit/age) and Ball wouldn't work financially, doesn't move the needle and the Pelicans wouldn't do it (fit/age).

Dejounte
08-30-2020, 05:20 PM
Completely agree, it's all in the wording.

Spurs probably put Aldridge's name out there with a high price, and if someone was willing to bite, then great...they would have won the trade.

They weren't trying to move him and take a lesser deal just for the sake of moving him. He was and is still a valuable piece.

That is how you are supposed to negotiate.

Whoever was that rival GM who made that comment was probably a dumbass.

spurspl
08-30-2020, 05:37 PM
Olynyk and a late first for LMA? wtf? Glad you aren't GM or anywhere near the FO.

if this late pick can bring u one of jalen smith/tyler bey/steward/vernon/woodard (via tankathon its possible) than its a decent trade. Dont expect too much in return for a 1yr rental of an 35yrs old LMA.

Kurgan
08-30-2020, 05:46 PM
Completely agree, it's all in the wording.

Spurs probably put Aldridge's name out there with a high price, and if someone was willing to bite, then great...they would have won the trade.

They weren't trying to move him and take a lesser deal just for the sake of moving him. He was and is still a valuable piece.

That is how you are supposed to negotiate.

In recent years, Spurs are one of the worst teams in the NBA when it comes to trades so there's now a perception that every team is entitled to rip them off. Spurs put themselves in this position with the horrific Kawhi and Bertans trades so I'm not surprised other front offices don't respect them anymore.

gambit1990
08-30-2020, 06:02 PM
why would the heat want demar?

gambit1990
08-30-2020, 06:03 PM
i think it's more likely the heat trade for cp3 and gallo.

BackHome
08-30-2020, 06:11 PM
Yeah Miami is going to be a major player this off season.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
08-30-2020, 06:32 PM
god a former facebook person in exec management. wonder how much money spurs are going to flush down that hole

ZeusWillJudge
08-30-2020, 07:24 PM
god a former facebook person in exec management. wonder how much money spurs are going to flush down that hole


Says a lot about priorities.

And I loved this:
"But the Spurs could use an upgrade in several areas, including its practice site, the dreadful AT&T Center, which lacks adequate Wifi..."

Seriously? They're making a big deal out of the Wi-Fi? Like they couldn't fix that for a pittance, in the big picture of what they spend? I just about stopped reading right there. Probably should have.

Then later they're talking about a SWOT analysis, only Buford doesn't want to talk about any of the weaknesses. Their strengths are mostly in the past, and they don't want to look at weaknesses. Their opportunities involve an exec from Facebook, and threats are everywhere. And Buford is afraid to let the new "GM" answer a question. Yeah, this group is fucked.

Seventyniner
08-30-2020, 08:33 PM
Completely agree, it's all in the wording.

Spurs probably put Aldridge's name out there with a high price, and if someone was willing to bite, then great...they would have won the trade.

They weren't trying to move him and take a lesser deal just for the sake of moving him. He was and is still a valuable piece.

That is how you are supposed to negotiate.

It also helps that Aldridge hadn't quit on his team.

Seventyniner
08-30-2020, 08:34 PM
Then later they're talking about a SWOT analysis, only Buford doesn't want to talk about any of the weaknesses. Their strengths are mostly in the past, and they don't want to look at weaknesses. Their opportunities involve an exec from Facebook, and threats are everywhere. And Buford is afraid to let the new "GM" answer a question. Yeah, this group is fucked.

I wouldn't equate an unwillingness to publicly talk about weaknesses with an unwillingness to do so in private. The Spurs have tried to keep things in-house as much as possible for a long time.

I'm not saying there are no weaknesses. Just that we shouldn't take that interview as an indication that Buford is trying to bury his head in the sand.

spurs10
08-30-2020, 11:27 PM
There is nothing wrong with the wifi or anything else at the AT&T Center really. People can bitch about the location, but it has a lot of parking and easy access to the highway. It's a cheap Uber fare from downtown as well.

objective
08-30-2020, 11:50 PM
The bit where RC jumped in so Jake from State Farm clone couldn't even answer a question like a real GM was pretty damn funny.

And RC trying to point to past glories and intangible nonsense as a way to address the roster and the future was just ... sad

And I'm not surprised that the article made no credible attempt to address the shortcomings Pop has had coaching this past year and didn't even bring up Forbes and his situation. it was of a typical Jabari low level of quality.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 12:51 AM
Spurs put themselves in this position with the horrific Kawhi and Bertans trades so I'm not surprised other front offices don't respect them anymore.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 12:52 AM
typical Jabari low level of quality.

gambit1990
08-31-2020, 02:07 AM
i don't see an issue with rc answering for brian tbh.

jabroni was probably asking dümbass questions that he knew wouldn't get answered.

TDMVPDPOY
08-31-2020, 04:53 AM
surprise clown still has a job after the shit he puled with the k2 news

Bellboy
08-31-2020, 06:17 AM
Face it guys. All future franchise moves are on hold till we get Forbes’ Max Contract extension behind us.

lefty
08-31-2020, 08:26 AM
:lmao Buford

lefty
08-31-2020, 08:28 AM
Yeah Miami is going to be a major player this off season.
yup the team is improving and it's an attractive destination if you have cash

MultiTroll
08-31-2020, 09:27 AM
It also helps that Aldridge hadn't quit on his team.
Can we see that video again of the ending of Game 7 playoff vs Denver. Additionally his comments after.
If that isn't Q-U-I-T then nothing is.

Other teams know the real value of Aldridge and weren't buying the Spurs overplay, that is why he wasn't traded.

MultiTroll
08-31-2020, 09:36 AM
"Pop's vision has clearly been our North Star," he said. "However, having said that, when we get ready to make a decision, we all get in the room, and everybody needs to be prepared, and he doesn't care who it is that gets the right answer, as long as we get the right answer."

:lmao Do tell who in the room went along with "the right answer" of Bryn Bryn starting, Patty being anointed Leader, the two of them playing D at the same time and other complete loser moves of the last 18 months.
FOH, that's 100% Popped. F's sake even Timmy Duncan went along with starting Bryn Bryn in the one and only game Duncan head coached.
It's a dictatorship, stop the bullshit.

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-31-2020, 10:27 AM
"Pop's vision has clearly been our North Star," he said. "However, having said that, when we get ready to make a decision, we all get in the room, and everybody needs to be prepared, and he doesn't care who it is that gets the right answer, as long as we get the right answer."

:lmao Do tell who in the room went along with "the right answer" of Bryn Bryn starting, Patty being anointed Leader, the two of them playing D at the same time and other complete loser moves of the last 18 months.
FOH, that's 100% Popped. F's sake even Timmy Duncan went along with starting Bryn Bryn in the one and only game Duncan head coached.
It's a dictatorship, stop the bullshit.




Hopefully the Forbes era is nearing its end.

TXstbobcat
08-31-2020, 11:07 AM
There is nothing wrong with the wifi or anything else at the AT&T Center really. People can bitch about the location, but it has a lot of parking and easy access to the highway. It's a cheap Uber fare from downtown as well.

I have always liked using the cheap park and ride option. $5 round trip per game.

poopbox
08-31-2020, 12:41 PM
Completely agree, it's all in the wording.

Spurs probably put Aldridge's name out there with a high price, and if someone was willing to bite, then great...they would have won the trade.

They weren't trying to move him and take a lesser deal just for the sake of moving him. He was and is still a valuable piece.

That is how you are supposed to negotiate.

The fact that they played so much better without him on both sides of the ball AND won at a higher rate without him might show that LMA, is not in fact, a valuable piece.

Collins21
08-31-2020, 02:27 PM
The fact that they played so much better without him on both sides of the ball AND won at a higher rate without him might show that LMA, is not in fact, a valuable piece.

This is where Stats lie. The Spurs have a left shot of going 8-0 if They had LA. Poetl cost this team two games with his limited and soft offensive game. LMA would have put up more points in that Denver game and would have Made Jokic work on the other end. Jokic got to focus on offense because Poetl is a non threat to score.

Chinook
08-31-2020, 02:36 PM
The fact that they played so much better without him on both sides of the ball AND won at a higher rate without him might show that LMA, is not in fact, a valuable piece.

Nah. They've made the playoffs with LMA. He's also solidly better than DeRozan at playing basketball.

Degoat
08-31-2020, 02:57 PM
Aldridge is getting pretty old, just sayin lol

RC_Drunkford
08-31-2020, 03:26 PM
The fact that they played so much better without him on both sides of the ball AND won at a higher rate without him might show that LMA, is not in fact, a valuable piece.

the only thing that showed is that Bryn Forbes is garbage and Popovich is a retard. Had nothing to do with Aldridge not being around

SAGirl
08-31-2020, 04:03 PM
Thanks for sharing. I criticized the lack of vision for the future and the lack of communication with fans and was trolled obviously bc spurstalk will do what it does... Anyways, I am glad to see it, but can't help thinking the Spurs are starting to feel the weight of all those season pass cancellations.

It also seems pretty evident RC is still the man calling the shots, for now Wright appears to be getting trained on the job in the best case scenario.

SAGirl
08-31-2020, 04:31 PM
lol at RC not letting Wright speak. Bad look for someone that's supposed to be the gm. Either they know he's incompetent or he really is just Pop/Buford's puppet. Most powerless "general manager" in the league:

It's Wright's job to help fix the roster, and the NBA's economics around its 2020-21 salary cap will be critical. But having been promoted less than a year ago, Wright is still learning the Spurs' way. That came through on the Zoom call.

Asked how the Spurs can rebuild, Buford intercepted Wright's question.

"Jabari let me answer this one," Buford interrupted. "It's more fair for me to [answer] since I've been engaged in this for a long time."

Buford explained the Spurs have never been swayed by public opinion. To back this, he remembered calls to "blow it up" at the end of David Robinson's era, and then again at the end of 2009-10 season.

Buford said the Spurs would continue to address its roster "optimistically and opportunistically." He then mentioned Aldridge's signing, which translated to a Western Conference finals appearance in 2016.

"Things didn't go as we hoped, and it's not on anybody," Buford said. "Some decisions we wished we could've done differently, but I think having the ability to develop young talent and flexibility to be opportunistic is going to be what we're going to continue to do."
Yea, Wright was undermined. I have no problem hearing from RC though since he's clearly the man at the FO. In the best of cases, Wright is seen as a newbie getting trained on the job. In the worst of cases, he's inept, or a figurehead that is RC's secretary.

I have to be greateful to Jabari for making these questions to the right people. As much maligned as he is here, I don't see any other San Antonio reporters daring to ask these questions, or being granted these kinds of interviews.

poopbox
08-31-2020, 04:35 PM
Nah. They've made the playoffs with LMA. He's also solidly better than DeRozan at playing basketball.

Not on earth 316 he's not.

poopbox
08-31-2020, 04:37 PM
the only thing that showed is that Bryn Forbes is garbage and Popovich is a retard. Had nothing to do with Aldridge not being around

Seeing as how Aldridge being out allowed Derozan to play the 4, which is what led to all our young guards getting more playing time...I believe it did in fact have something to do with Aldridge not being around...

SAGirl
08-31-2020, 04:41 PM
I wonder why the Spurs permitted an interview like this with Jabari (cnbc) instead of local reporters on expressnews with Tom Orsborn? Seems odd if we all truly believe Jabari was on Kawhi's jock and had an anti-Spurs bias to all his previous reporting of the Spurs.
I don't personally believe that. He might not be a great newsperson, but looks at angles that other reporters don't.

TD 21
08-31-2020, 04:47 PM
Seeing as how Aldridge being out allowed Derozan to play the 4, which is what led to all our young guards getting more playing time...I believe it did in fact have something to do with Aldridge not being around...

No, Lyles being out facilitated DeRozan at the four.

This isn't sustainable and even if it were, any lineup featuring DeRozan and Murray would be better offensively with Aldridge as the lone big as opposed to Poeltl because of his ability to space the floor.

SAGirl
08-31-2020, 04:52 PM
Says a lot about priorities.

And I loved this:
"But the Spurs could use an upgrade in several areas, including its practice site, the dreadful AT&T Center, which lacks adequate Wifi..."

Seriously? They're making a big deal out of the Wi-Fi? Like they couldn't fix that for a pittance, in the big picture of what they spend? I just about stopped reading right there. Probably should have.

Then later they're talking about a SWOT analysis, only Buford doesn't want to talk about any of the weaknesses. Their strengths are mostly in the past, and they don't want to look at weaknesses. Their opportunities involve an exec from Facebook, and threats are everywhere. And Buford is afraid to let the new "GM" answer a question. Yeah, this group is fucked.
I noticed that too. It was a PR move, which they need to make, and should have started to make sooner. It's good that they had their recent hires on the call, but it's still RC's plot.

Chomag
08-31-2020, 05:00 PM
Hopefully Pop and FO will not just use the excuses of fair weather fans for their fan interest and revenue loss and they come to the realisation that it may be the poor product that they provide that may be killing the fan moral. I'm just looking at the business side of it.

I know some say we are Spoiled fan base but I also would say we have a spoiled FO that are in charge of this franchise.

Honestly, I don't know if it's popular but the only players that are not expendable is White, Lonnie, and Keldon. All other players are pretty replaceable because although they might be pretty good players they don't really bring anything special that we couldn't get from other players.

I for one am very excited with the prospect at watching these 3 players away going forward and Spurs maybe 1 great all-star type player added to this core from being a threat again. Of course it would be even better if one or more of these 3 that achieve that level.

BackHome
08-31-2020, 07:18 PM
Yeah the Glory days are over RC and his team are going to have to work fast to correct the ship if not she is going to sink. They definitely going to have to give much more media access then they have ever done in the past to help sale tickets and increase market share. Changes are coming and we all know old people don’t like change so I don’t see Pop staying more then another year before he moves on.

Ocotillo
08-31-2020, 08:42 PM
Says a lot about priorities.

And I loved this:
"But the Spurs could use an upgrade in several areas, including its practice site, the dreadful AT&T Center, which lacks adequate Wifi..."

Seriously? They're making a big deal out of the Wi-Fi?

Heh, kind of ironic in light of who the arena is named after.

kht
08-31-2020, 09:19 PM
If LMA and Tyles were healthy, we contend this postseason with a puncher's chance to beat the Lakers to be honest. I'm glad we didn't deal LMA for scraps. He's still good.

spurs10
08-31-2020, 09:40 PM
Heh, kind of ironic in light of who the arena is named after. Yeah it's total bullshit. You can't get through the door without your digital ticket.

ZeusWillJudge
08-31-2020, 10:59 PM
Heh, kind of ironic in light of who the arena is named after.


:lol Oh, man, I didn't even think about that.

RC_Drunkford
09-01-2020, 02:20 PM
Seeing as how Aldridge being out allowed Derozan to play the 4, which is what led to all our young guards getting more playing time...I believe it did in fact have something to do with Aldridge not being around...

Aldridge plays Center, not PF. Actually Pop played that line up quite often during the season with Aldridge too. But Forbes and Mills were also on the floor and Keldon wasn't.

absoloot66
09-01-2020, 05:32 PM
The bit where RC jumped in so Jake from State Farm clone couldn't even answer a question like a real GM was pretty damn funny.

And RC trying to point to past glories and intangible nonsense as a way to address the roster and the future was just ... sad

And I'm not surprised that the article made no credible attempt to address the shortcomings Pop has had coaching this past year and didn't even bring up Forbes and his situation. it was of a typical Jabari low level of quality.

:lmao

RC_Drunkford
09-01-2020, 05:37 PM
The bit where RC jumped in so Jake from State Farm clone couldn't even answer a question like a real GM was pretty damn funny.

And RC trying to point to past glories and intangible nonsense as a way to address the roster and the future was just ... sad

And I'm not surprised that the article made no credible attempt to address the shortcomings Pop has had coaching this past year and didn't even bring up Forbes and his situation. it was of a typical Jabari low level of quality.

the problem is that after 2014 Flopovich infected the entire organization with his "bigger than basketball" bullshit philosophy. RC had an interview a few years back where he basically said winning doesn't matter as much, it's more important how they impact peoples character and develop their personality. Which basically means we don't give a fuck if Bryn fuckin Forbes costs us 50 wins per season as long as he becomes a good guy with 3 baby mommas. Totally retarded philosophy for a basketball franchise. They run this shit like a mental health institution.