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phxspurfan
09-06-2020, 04:42 PM
Tom Brady Signs Contract With Buccaneers
https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/20/tom-brady-signs-contract-buccaneers

Brady's deal will be for two years and $50 million


Meet the Bucs' 2020 NFL Draft Class
https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/2020-nfl-draft-class-bucs-prospects

Tristan Wirfs - offensive tackle, Iowa - first round, 13th-overall
Antoine Winfield Jr. - safety, Minnesota - second round, 45th-overall
Ke'Shawn Vaughn - running back, Vanderbilt - third round, 76th-overall
Tyler Johnson - wide receiver, Minnesota - fifth round, 161st overall
Khalil Davis - defensive tackle, Nebraska - sixth round, 194th overall
Chapelle Russell - linebacker, Temple - seventh round, 241st overall


Rob Gronkowski Traded to Buccaneers from Patriots for 4th-Round Pick
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887811-report-rob-gronkowski-told-patriots-he-wants-trade-to-bucs-tom-brady-reunion

The New England Patriots agreed to trade tight end Rob Gronkowski and a seventh-round draft pick to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Tuesday in exchange for a fourth-round draft pick
TE Rob Gronkowski has, in fact, begin putting on weight for a return to football, sources say. He’s ready. He wants to return. And Tom Brady wants him back for the Bucs, too.
Gronk was done with the Patriots… but he never wanted to be done catching TDs from Brady.


Bucs Sign RB LeSean McCoy to 1-Year Deal
https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/lesean-mccoy-bucs-nfl-news

Veteran RB LeSean McCoy reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, per Rosenhaussports. “He’s very excited to play with established vets like Brady and Gronk in trying to win another championship,” Rosenhaus said.


Mike Evans restructures contract, clearing space for Fournette
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/mike-evans-reportedly-restructures-contract-helping-buccaneers-clear-space-for-leonard-fournette/

Three-time Pro Bowl receiver Mike Evans has restructured his contract in order to give the Buccaneers more cap space, according to Scott Reynolds of Pewter Report. Evans' restructure, which reportedly has created $9.56 million in cap space, played a key role in the Buccaneers being able to acquire running back Leonard Fournette,


Leonard Fournette agrees to deal with Tampa Bay Buccaneers
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29796871/leonard-fournette-agrees-deal-bucs-source-says

Fournette, 25, at times had a rocky tenure in Jacksonville. In 2018, there were injuries and a suspension, and he was on the bench in crunch time. He was fined, criticized and admittedly not in ideal shape late in the year.


Tampa Bay Buccaneers sign QB Josh Rosen to practice squad
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29825289/source-tampa-bay-buccaneers-sign-qb-josh-rosen-practice-squad

For Rosen, the question has not been about talent. Miami coach Brian Flores said Rosen had the best arm of all the quarterbacks in camp, but Rosen fell behind when it came to processing -- identifying defenses pre-snap, being able to predict changing coverages and linebackers shifting, and ultimately being able to throw accurately and on time. Those are all skills Rosen has spent time working on this offseason in Miami and will look to continue to do in Tampa.

spurraider21
09-06-2020, 09:35 PM
Chinook i know this is your secondary team

Chinook
09-07-2020, 07:12 AM
Yes it is, and it has been since I was a little kid. I am excited to see them this year, though I would've preferred to not have to root for Brady. The Bucs are basically the Browns South, so seeing them as a legit darkhorse contender is crazy.

Bill_Brasky
09-07-2020, 08:13 AM
Fuck Brady. Fucking scam artist.

Millennial_Messiah
09-07-2020, 10:11 AM
Yes it is, and it has been since I was a little kid. I am excited to see them this year, though I would've preferred to not have to root for Brady. The Bucs are basically the Browns South, so seeing them as a legit darkhorse contender is crazy.

Bucs 2002 and Ravens 2012 were like the same kind of super bowl team... great defense and a bad QB but a miracle

Chinook
09-07-2020, 02:02 PM
Bucs 2002 and Ravens 2012 were like the same kind of super bowl team... great defense and a bad QB but a miracle

This isn't even a little accurate of the 2012 Ravens. They had a moribund D that had a habit of collapsing on the regular and a QB who had the best four-game stretch of his life.

benefactor
09-07-2020, 03:58 PM
This isn't even a little accurate of the 2012 Ravens. They had a moribund D that had a habit of collapsing on the regular and a QB who had the best four-game stretch of his life.
His football takes are historically bad. There's really no reason to engage him.

Millennial_Messiah
09-07-2020, 06:05 PM
This isn't even a little accurate of the 2012 Ravens. They had a moribund D that had a habit of collapsing on the regular and a QB who had the best four-game stretch of his life.
I take it back, you're right

the Ravens D had legendary players but they were old AF by 2012. Both their offensive and defensive ratings for 2012 finished just above league average for the regular season. Only 10-6 regular season after a hot start. But it's interesting to note, they did have the #1 overall combined special teams ranking in 2012.

Chinook
09-07-2020, 06:40 PM
I take it back, you're right

the Ravens D had legendary players but they were old AF by 2012. Both their offensive and defensive ratings for 2012 finished just above league average for the regular season. Only 10-6 regular season after a hot start. But it's interesting to note, they did have the #1 overall combined special teams ranking in 2012.

They did. They had an HoF kicker and one of the best return men in the league. And they even had guys like First-round pick Jimmy Smith playing on punt coverage. The team was immensely talented, but they had no superstars that year with Suggs' Achilles and Ngata slowing down.

Pelicans78
09-07-2020, 08:38 PM
2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs are a better comparison but a millennial jackass wouldn’t know much about either team.

spurraider21
09-08-2020, 03:13 AM
2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs are a better comparison but a millennial jackass wouldn’t know much about either team.
Or the recent broncos team with TOSB manning. The 02 Bucs at least had a competent offense with Keyshawn, etc

Millennial_Messiah
09-08-2020, 08:19 AM
2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs are a better comparison but a millennial jackass wouldn’t know much about either team.

I actually do and I watched a lot of the 2002 season and I watched old videos of parts of the 2000 season. I agree those are a better fit. And a good but not legendary wide receiver, one in Keyshawn Johnson's league, does not make an offense "competent" when your QB is backup quality.

I wouldn't put the 2015 Broncos in the same category because even though Peyton's arm was moribund that year he was still Peyton Manning with Peyton Manning's brain and football wisdom. Can't say anything similar for Dilfer or Brad Johnson who were pretty much career Tyrod Taylor's.

Millennial_Messiah
09-08-2020, 08:25 AM
They did. They had an HoF kicker and one of the best return men in the league. And they even had guys like First-round pick Jimmy Smith playing on punt coverage. The team was immensely talented, but they had no superstars that year with Suggs' Achilles and Ngata slowing down.

& that was the year the fans collectively brought back the "7 nation army" chant back from the dead and chanted BULL SHIT whenever their team got a questionable to bad call against them at home. Long ass home winning streak, weird year for refs, overall a good season of football.

spurraider21
09-08-2020, 01:51 PM
I actually do and I watched a lot of the 2002 season and I watched old videos of parts of the 2000 season. I agree those are a better fit. And a good but not legendary wide receiver, one in Keyshawn Johnson's league, does not make an offense "competent" when your QB is backup quality.

I wouldn't put the 2015 Broncos in the same category because even though Peyton's arm was moribund that year he was still Peyton Manning with Peyton Manning's brain and football wisdom. Can't say anything similar for Dilfer or Brad Johnson who were pretty much career Tyrod Taylor's.
they were the #18 scoring offense in the league, which is bottom half but just barely. brad johnson played much better than guys like dilfer or 2015 manning. they werent a huge volume passing team but between keyshawn and keenan mccardell they were solid personnel wise. they didnt really have a good run game like those other teams... Pittman was always mediocre (alstott somewhat overhyped).

Millennial_Messiah
09-08-2020, 01:53 PM
they were the #18 scoring offense in the league, which is bottom half but just barely. brad johnson played much better than guys like dilfer or 2015 manning. they werent a huge volume passing team but between keyshawn and keenan mccardell they were solid personnel wise. they didnt really have a good run game like those other teams... Pittman was always mediocre (alstott somewhat overhyped).

well, they did score a lot in that super bowl, so there's that.

Mitch
09-08-2020, 03:19 PM
Wish Brady success, tbh. Not my team, don't see them excelling.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 09:17 AM
Best corps of skill position offensive players I've seen on an opening day NFL roster since..... last year's Eagles. We all saw how that turned out.

spurraider21
09-09-2020, 02:44 PM
Best corps of skill position offensive players I've seen on an opening day NFL roster since..... last year's Eagles. We all saw how that turned out.
i'm not too impressed by their running backs. i legitimately dont think fournette is a great talent. ronald jones looks like a solid runner but nothing special. if this was prime lesean mccoy i'd feel very different. their running back group is a B overall because they have depth.

their top 2 receivers are A... and instead of having a slot receiver most downs looks like they'll go 2 TE's. i dont know what kind of shape gronk is going to be in. the footage i've seen in camp has looked pretty bad lol. but during his last season he was slow all year then had some big postseason plays

if blake jarwin pans out, you could argue the cowboys have better skill players. if emmanuel sanders hasnt fallen off a cliff, could say the same for the saints

Darth_Pelican
09-09-2020, 02:46 PM
Mike Evans is already hurt

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:56 PM
i'm not too impressed by their running backs. i legitimately dont think fournette is a great talent. ronald jones looks like a solid runner but nothing special. if this was prime lesean mccoy i'd feel very different. their running back group is a B overall because they have depth.

their top 2 receivers are A... and instead of having a slot receiver most downs looks like they'll go 2 TE's. i dont know what kind of shape gronk is going to be in. the footage i've seen in camp has looked pretty bad lol. but during his last season he was slow all year then had some big postseason plays

if blake jarwin pans out, you could argue the cowboys have better skill players. if emmanuel sanders hasnt fallen off a cliff, could say the same for the saints

They don't need Gronk, they have OJ Howard and Make America (Cameron) Brate Again. Which is going to be fine for Capt. Checkdown #2. Combine with big catch radius Evans and all you need is some scat backs like Shady, and one of the others and you'll be fine. I wish they kept Dare at RB but RoJo will have to do

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:58 PM
Mike Evans is already hurt

Well at least they have Godwin then

Millennial_Messiah
09-12-2020, 10:16 AM
i'm not too impressed by their running backs. i legitimately dont think fournette is a great talent. ronald jones looks like a solid runner but nothing special. if this was prime lesean mccoy i'd feel very different. their running back group is a B overall because they have depth.

their top 2 receivers are A... and instead of having a slot receiver most downs looks like they'll go 2 TE's. i dont know what kind of shape gronk is going to be in. the footage i've seen in camp has looked pretty bad lol. but during his last season he was slow all year then had some big postseason plays

if blake jarwin pans out, you could argue the cowboys have better skill players. if emmanuel sanders hasnt fallen off a cliff, could say the same for the saints

look out for the Bucs Scott Miller, slot receiver, 23 years old, 5'10" 174, white boy, maybe the next Welker, Edelman, Amendola, Beasley, Humphries, Renfrow?

IronMexican
09-12-2020, 11:19 PM
Bucs 2002 and Ravens 2012 were like the same kind of super bowl team... great defense and a bad QB but a miracle

What a stupid take

IronMexican
09-12-2020, 11:21 PM
Wish Brady success, tbh. Not my team, don't see them excelling.

Imafine being a Laker and Pats fan

Pathetic

Mitch
09-13-2020, 02:50 AM
Add Trumptard to that list, he’s maybe the most shameless frontrunner since Snoop Dogg.

Says one of the "blue no matter who" tards :lol

I grew up with both teams, hard concept to understand for you and ironspic but not everybody wants to root for their local team.

i'm_still_beta
09-13-2020, 02:56 AM
Imafine being a Laker and Pats fan

Pathetic

Wanted to post exactly the same :lol

spurraider21
09-13-2020, 03:06 AM
Imafine being a Laker and Pats fan

Pathetic
probably likes the yankees too

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 08:28 AM
probably likes the yankees too

I grew up kind of a yankees fan because my grandmother was because as a child in the 1940s they used to have spring training near her little town in Colorado... but if one of the Texas teams were up against the yankees, then I wasn't a yankees fan... tbh. But against say the red sox or devil rays, absolutely.

Lakers have always been on my shitlist because of growing up with Kobe/Shaq as the antagonists. Shaq would always talk shit about Duncan/Robinson/San Antonio and Kobe was a snakey, covert pompous ass even before he became a sexual predator. I grew up in San Antonio and there's only one team to love, the Spurs. And 4 championships to their credit in my childhood + 1 in college.

Cowboys... I don't know why or when I started supporting them, probably around 2006 when I started seriously watching more football and they started getting good for the first time I could remember (around the time Romo took over for Bledsoe). I wasn't a diehard football fan until about 2011 though, around the "dark age" of the Duncan Spurs era. A.k.a., the first Jason Garrett year. Also the year I was on my high school JV football team. Before that I was all about basketball; but I only grew to be 5'8" so couldn't even make the JV basketball team. But now with Duncan and Kawhi gone I haven't really given a horse's last dump about basketball since 2017 and haven't followed intensely since 2016.

Football is my life now. Happy Week 1. I put up real money on your team against the spread today, so go Raiders along with the Cowboys. :toast

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 08:33 AM
Says one of the "blue no matter who" tards :lol

I grew up with both teams, hard concept to understand for you and ironspic but not everybody wants to root for their local team.

I don't have a problem with it as long as you don't "hedge" to the other side if that team isn't winning. Also, don't be one of those losers who claim championships for their team that occurred before they were born (i.e. the Wilt Lakers or the Mikan Minneapolis Lakers or the Bill Russell Celtics).

In my opinion... the Cowboys haven't won a championship yet. Sure, they won championships with Staubach and Aikman, but I can't really appreciate those because my mother was my age for the Staubach era and I was a small baby for the second era. True, they've technically won championships in my lifetime, but I was a baby so it doesn't count IMO. I'm looking for my first-ever Cowboys super bowl the same way the Eagles fans had up until 2 years ago.

In the Super Bowl, some times there will be two teams I'm okay with and have a preference (Chiefs/49ers -- hoping the Chiefs won but was okay with the 49ers winning); some times there's a team I just hate (Steelers/Pats or the Rodgers Packers), sometimes I'm just apathetic (Panthers/Broncos), sometimes I have a strong rooting interest (Any NFC team against the Pats/Steelers or most AFC teams against the Rodgers Packers) and on occasion there'll be two teams I just hate (Rodgers Packers vs. Steelers in 2010) where I'll be at a loss. But as long as I'm an NFL fan I'll always want the best long term future and championships for the Cowboys.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 11:00 AM
He also went Obama to Trump, is there a more shameless frontrunner alive? :lmao
A ton of people of all kinds voted Obama in 2008. McCain was a dud, people were tired of Bush and Obama promised great things... of course he didn't stick to them.

2012 I can understand the abstinence. Obama was a liar and a promise breaker but Romney was another dud.

Trump over Shillary in 2016 was the most obvious choice in ever.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:59 PM
Oh sure you did! You also just happened to grow up rooting for the Yankees, Duke basketball, and Alabama football too, right?

You switched your football team to the NFC champion after spending a decade rooting for the most dominant team.

Maybe you should do a better job of picking your battles, slob.

Isitjustme?
09-15-2020, 08:51 AM
I grew up kind of a yankees fan because my grandmother was because as a child in the 1940s they used to have spring training near her little town in Colorado... but if one of the Texas teams were up against the yankees, then I wasn't a yankees fan... tbh. But against say the red sox or devil rays, absolutely.

Lakers have always been on my shitlist because of growing up with Kobe/Shaq as the antagonists. Shaq would always talk shit about Duncan/Robinson/San Antonio and Kobe was a snakey, covert pompous ass even before he became a sexual predator. I grew up in San Antonio and there's only one team to love, the Spurs. And 4 championships to their credit in my childhood + 1 in college.

Cowboys... I don't know why or when I started supporting them, probably around 2006 when I started seriously watching more football and they started getting good for the first time I could remember (around the time Romo took over for Bledsoe). I wasn't a diehard football fan until about 2011 though, around the "dark age" of the Duncan Spurs era. A.k.a., the first Jason Garrett year. Also the year I was on my high school JV football team. Before that I was all about basketball; but I only grew to be 5'8" so couldn't even make the JV basketball team. But now with Duncan and Kawhi gone I haven't really given a horse's last dump about basketball since 2017 and haven't followed intensely since 2016.

Football is my life now. Happy Week 1. I put up real money on your team against the spread today, so go Raiders along with the Cowboys. :toast

Jesus, get a diary