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Millennial_Messiah
09-08-2020, 06:58 PM
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Breaking News: Looks like Dick Stockton is no longer a play by play commentator, perhaps sitting out this year due to Covid or maybe retired for good:

September 13, 2020 Maps will be posted on Wednesday, September 9.


NATIONAL BROADCASTS

Monday Night 10:10 ET: Tennessee @ Denver (ESPN; Steve Levy, Brian Griese, Louis Riddick)Thursday Night: Houston @ Kansas City (NBC)

Sunday Night: Dallas @ LA Rams (NBC)

Monday Night 7:00 ET: Pittsburgh @ NY Giants (ESPN; Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreit)






CBS SINGLE

Miami @ New England
Jim Nantz, Tony Romo


Cleveland @ Baltimore
Ian Eagle, Charles Davis


Las Vegas @ Carolina
Greg Gumbel, Rich Gannon


NY Jets @ Buffalo
Andrew Catalon, James Lofton


Indianapolis @ Jacksonville
Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta


LA Chargers @ Cincinnati (LATE)
Kevin Harlan, Trent Green




FOX EARLY █
Philadelphia @ Washington
Kevin Burkhardt, Daryl Johnston


Chicago @ Detroit
Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma


Green Bay @ Minnesota
Chris Myers, Greg Jennings, Brock Huard


Seattle @ Atlanta
Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth



FOX LATE █
Tampa Bay @ New Orleans
Joe Buck, Troy Aikman


Arizona @ San Francisco
Kevin Kugler, Chris Spielman

ace3g
09-08-2020, 07:02 PM
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
#Broncos pass-rusher Von Miller suffered a lower leg injury in practice today, per me and MikeGarafolo. The fear is that he’s done for the season. But the MRI will tell all.
Twitter · 21 mins ago

Millennial_Messiah
09-08-2020, 07:31 PM
Week 1 Predictions (no spread):

HOU 20 @ KC 34 - The Texans will certainly be worse this year, and the Chiefs will have a good amount of fans for their home opener, banner ceremony, etc. Look for the Chiefs to pick right back up where they left off in Februrary.


NYJ 20 @ BUF 17 - Two lower-mid tier teams, but the Jets have the better QB and overall team. Buffalo's 2019 season was a fluke waiting to be exposed all along.

IND 31 @ JAX 10 - A middling team faces arguably the worst team in the NFL in 2020.

MIA 17 @ NE 24 - Belichick gets his (not adequate) revenge for last year's version of this meeting. Aided by special teams and defense more so than Newton.

CLE 13 @ BAL 30 - Better team just wins this time. The Browns should be about 6-10 in 2020.

LAC 17 @ CIN 20 - Joe Burrow won't get fans for his first game, but he'll wow nonetheless, similar to RG3 in New Orleans in 2012. Chargers will be more hapless than a lot of people expect in 2020 due to their lousy QB situation.

LV 35 @ CAR 13 - A colossal mismatch between a good (but not great) team, against a sorry excuse for a team in complete re-build mode, completely devoid of talent.

SEA 30 @ ATL 24 - Two quality NFC teams to watch in 2020. Fans wouldn't have made a difference either way.

PHI 33 @ WAS 16 - Similar to last year's affair, the Washington Whatever's take a surprising early lead, but without the talent to keep up, the Eagles fly and soar past them to the finish line.

CHI 24 @ DET 17 - Better team and defense wins out against the better QB.

GB 20 @ MIN 27 - Again, no fans makes the home/away less of an issue; Green Bay tends to lose the tough road games in the Rodgers era, the Vikings fans are loud, but they won't be there Week 1.

AZ 31 @ SF 34 - A shoot-out between one of the rising young explosive teams of the league and a recently-established stalwart. Home team wins, but low confidence due to lack of fans in California.

TB 30 @ NO 33 - With no fans in attendance, anyone can win. Look for an XFL-style offensive dominated game between 2 of the game's 5 best to every play, in their twilight years.

DAL 26 @ LAR 27 - Dallas dominates and leads most of the game, but a slew of special teams goofs late choke away the game. Greg "Legatron" Zuerlein sinks a sterling 4/5 in his return to LA, but his final miss on the last play of the game, last-ditch drive is the game-loser.


PIT 24 @ NYG 21 - Closer than many expect, but the better team ultimately prevails.

TEN 23 @ DEN 24 - Broncos will be allowing fans, and they are very difficult to beat at home in September due to the altitude + heat combo. What a weird week of weather for Denver. 95 degree Labor Day weekend, snowing and freezing mid-this week, then back to the upper 80s in time for the Week 1 home game. Can it be any more bipolar than this?!?

DAF86
09-08-2020, 09:55 PM
Wait, this shit is going on with fans?

Robz4000
09-08-2020, 10:58 PM
Wait, this shit is going on with fans?

Some will, some won't iirc.

Will Hunting
09-09-2020, 06:34 AM
Wait, this shit is going on with fans?
Stadiums will be at like 20% capacity.

If it’s an outdoor stadium then it’s pretty low risk, especially when you compare it to other shit people are doing in Murica right now like flying on airplanes or attending Trump rallies.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 08:14 AM
Wait, this shit is going on with fans?

Chiefs are doing like 40-45% for the home opener (w/banner ceremony, but everyone must wear mask) and then 25% indefinitely until the vaccine, end of COVID etc.

Most outdoor stadiums will have some ~20-25% capacity around the league. Cowboys are planning on roughly 50%, but that's Jerry Jones all day. It's a huge stadium so it won't be that full. Indoor stadiums like the Saints, Falcons and Vikings might not be able to host fans at all until the vaccine.

But even for outdoor teams, the Packers and Jags will not have fans in September that I know of, and there are others too (think left-wing California).

Darth_Pelican
09-09-2020, 08:43 AM
Saints plan on having around 20-25% capacity after week 1, and they will be doing a rotation for the season ticket holders.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 08:51 AM
Saints plan on having around 20-25% capacity after week 1, and they will be doing a rotation for the season ticket holders.

But they don't have a retractable roof? How will that work? The virus is airborne and masks are not air-tight. There will be a lot of criticism if a lot of Saints fans, especially since they have a more elderly average-age fanbase, contract and die of covid.

Darth_Pelican
09-09-2020, 09:10 AM
But they don't have a retractable roof? How will that work? The virus is airborne and masks are not air-tight. There will be a lot of criticism if a lot of Saints fans, especially since they have a more elderly average-age fanbase, contract and die of covid.

No one is forcing elderly to go to the games. If they're scared of the virus, then they don't have to go. Wal Mart and Costco don't have retractable roofs, and the last couple times I've been to them, people were elbow to elbow due to the crowds.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 09:13 AM
No one is forcing elderly to go to the games. If they're scared of the virus, then they don't have to go. Wal Mart and Costco don't have retractable roofs, and the last couple times I've been to them, people were elbow to elbow due to the crowds.

I'm just sayin'. Every time I see a Saints Superdome game I see more old people in the stands than I do at virtually any other NFL stadium, even for example Arizona or the Florida teams (though the Florida teams are generally losers with apathetic fanbases anyways). If only the younger Saints fans go.... well that's one good way to drastically reduce the size of your audience!

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 10:12 AM
Crap, Von Miller might be out for the rest of his career, he's 31. Sad. He'll still make the HOF though.

Broncos go from 7-9 to 5-11 or 4-12, sadly.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 02:26 PM
September 13, 2020 All listings are unofficial and subject to change. Check back often for updates.

NATIONAL BROADCASTS


CBS SINGLE
https://506sports.com/2020/01-CBS.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu


Miami @ New England
Jim Nantz, Tony Romo


Cleveland @ Baltimore
Ian Eagle, Charles Davis


Las Vegas @ Carolina
Greg Gumbel, Rich Gannon


NY Jets @ Buffalo
Andrew Catalon, James Lofton


Indianapolis @ Jacksonville
Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta


LA Chargers @ Cincinnati (LATE)
Kevin Harlan, Trent Green




FOX EARLY https://506sports.com/2020/01-FOX-E.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu


Philadelphia @ Washington
Kevin Burkhardt, Daryl Johnston


Chicago @ Detroit
Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma


Green Bay @ Minnesota
Chris Myers, Greg Jennings, Brock Huard


Seattle @ Atlanta
Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth



FOX LATE https://506sports.com/2020/01-FOX-L.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu


Tampa Bay @ New Orleans
Joe Buck, Troy Aikman


Arizona @ San Francisco
Kevin Kugler, Chris Spielman

Thursday Night: Houston @ Kansas City (NBC)
Sunday Night: Dallas @ LA Rams (NBC)
Monday Night 7:00 ET: Pittsburgh @ NY Giants (ESPN; Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreit)
Monday Night 10:10 ET: Tennessee @ Denver (ESPN; Steve Levy, Brian Griese, Louis Riddick)

spurraider21
09-09-2020, 02:41 PM
vegas has already said they're not having any fans. i believe carolina has no fans (they refunded all the tickets i had bought). its a city by city thing

spurraider21
09-09-2020, 02:41 PM
:lol

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Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 05:57 PM
vegas has already said they're not having any fans. i believe carolina has no fans (they refunded all the tickets i had bought). its a city by city thing

Davis was given the option by the state/city to have up to about a third capacity. He chose to cut off his nose to spite his face. "All fans or no fans"... :lol only the Raiders.

so yeah, these will be basically XFL / high school games... better team wins, no home advantage. Raiders have the better team, though. Panthers don't have a competitive roster for the NFL.... maybe they can join the SEC and compete for a final 4 birth there, since mainstay perennials like tOSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon etc won't have a chance this year.

Trainwreck2100
09-09-2020, 06:19 PM
Stadiums will be at like 20% capacity.

If it’s an outdoor stadium then it’s pretty low risk, especially when you compare it to other shit people are doing in Murica right now like flying on airplanes or attending Trump rallies.

Not really, the risk is high unless you expect these people to hold their piss in the whole game

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 06:23 PM
Not really, the risk is high unless you expect these people to hold their piss in the whole game

you wear your mask to the b-room and wash your hands after you piss and use a paper towel for the door. I've been doing it for a decade pre-covid (well, aside from the mask part). It's not hard

Will Hunting
09-09-2020, 06:25 PM
Not really, the risk is high unless you expect these people to hold their piss in the whole game
Like I said, it’s low risk compared to people jamming onto a narrow body airplane at 67% and breathing the same recycled air.

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 06:30 PM
Like I said, it’s low risk compared to people jamming onto a narrow body airplane at 67% and breathing the same recycled air.
agreed

why not just cancel flights? I don't get how seattle will even be able to win home games this year tbh.

SpursforSix
09-09-2020, 06:33 PM
Chiefs are doing like 40-45% for the home opener (w/banner ceremony, but everyone must wear mask) and then 25% indefinitely until the vaccine, end of COVID etc.


That makes no sense. They’ve assessed the risk and determined that 25% is OK. But hey...home opener....

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 06:39 PM
That makes no sense. They’ve assessed the risk and determined that 25% is OK. But hey...home opener....
But it's not just *any* home opener. It's their first SB title in many generations, the annual banner ceremony, the music, etc. Once a year NFL and sporting event / ritual. Who knows if they'll ever get to have that ceremony again? Mahomes could break his leg and miss the rest of his career, or maybe they just won't be good enough to get back there. Eveyone knows NFL = "Not For Long".

It's a once in a lifetime event. Let the fans be. With masks on, outside, they should be fine.

Only issue is rain is in the forecast for all day tomorrow:

https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/Kansas+City+MO?canonicalCityId=f52da748cbb18c8ccc9 b45411e165875ff5f154473a2f681dfd384aede4f1f86

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-09-2020, 06:42 PM
This guy simply does not know football.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-09-2020, 06:42 PM
What an awful list of predictions

Millennial_Messiah
09-09-2020, 07:15 PM
This guy simply does not know football.

I know that Carolina will be firmly in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, which is good news for them.

Darth_Pelican
09-10-2020, 01:03 PM
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FrostKing
09-10-2020, 02:51 PM
Friend played a couple episodes of Hard Knocks the other day

Alot of the players act like its 6th grade camp. Truly shows you their job is a kids game

Especially the secondary. Barely any technique talk just trash talking and goofing off the entire time.

Coaches boarding on parents.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 05:08 PM
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of all those teams, only Arizona, Atlanta, Minnesota and Tennessee are even remotely playoff contenders in 2020, and they're not really SB contenders so the answer is almost certainly a hard no.

Robz4000
09-10-2020, 06:39 PM
This game is prolly gonna suck, but its nice to have football back tbh.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:19 PM
Yay they played the lombardi trophy theme music!! For longer than most banner ceremony years.

Still think this one was the best (lol at the germ spreading in Feb 2018 considering today's extreme gemophobic context):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zH76QzQd9s

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zH76QzQd9s

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:22 PM
This game is prolly gonna suck, but its nice to have football back tbh.
well the last meeting between these two teams had the sloppiest first half of special teams play in just about any game i'd ever seen, and there was no covid pandemic then, so i don't see how it could be worse tbh.

Trainwreck2100
09-10-2020, 07:26 PM
That anthem was so bad, come the fuck on black people, get your shit together

RD2191
09-10-2020, 07:27 PM
:lolwell that was lame

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:27 PM
:lmao :lmao Real KC Chiefs fans know what's up...

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

"TRUMP 2020!"

"TRUMP BABY!"

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....


:lmao "moment of silence"
:lmao The Left

i'm_still_beta
09-10-2020, 07:28 PM
Yes, and after all that let wear the mask. Clowns

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:29 PM
"Positive change"?

"Long long overdue"?

What is this, 1964?

Dumbasses.....

RD2191
09-10-2020, 07:37 PM
:lol Texans

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:38 PM
Not going to stand, lol, ball hit the ground on the "process of the catch" or whatever, :lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:41 PM
So possession 1 of the season, the Dez/Calvin Johnson rule strikes already :lol

Trainwreck2100
09-10-2020, 07:42 PM
700 million and the best they came up was standing in the middle of the field

benefactor
09-10-2020, 07:54 PM
David Johnson:wow

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 07:55 PM
wow... david johnson looks 100%

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:55 PM
David Johnson definitely looks like his old 2015 / 2016 self after having basically the last 2 years off due to injury and Kingsbury's scheme

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 07:56 PM
wow... david johnson looks 100%
& to think just last year he had his job taken by a very average back in Kenyan Drake

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 07:57 PM
& to think just last year he had his job taken by a very average back in Kenyan Drake
weird to blame kingsbury's scheme when that very average back was absolutely tearing it up in the same offense DJ was struggling in

more obvious answer is that DJ wasn't right physically. looks good so far in first quarter of week 1. hope it holds up. i dont own any shares of him in fantasy, but love him as a player

RD2191
09-10-2020, 07:57 PM
Who the fuck is David Johnson? :lol

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 07:58 PM
Who the fuck is David Johnson? :lol
he came out of nowhere to basically be the best RB in the league for about 1.25 years and then got hurt and dieded for 3 years

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 07:58 PM
Who the fuck is David Johnson? :lol
Not sure if you're being serious but he was elite in 2016, hampered by injuries since then.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 07:59 PM
:cry pls stay healthy :cry

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:00 PM
Outside of Watson, Cunningham is my favorite player on this team

RD2191
09-10-2020, 08:00 PM
Not sure if you're being serious but he was elite in 2016, hampered by injuries since then.
I got very very sick in 2017 so I didn't pay much attention to any sport for a while tbh.

RD2191
09-10-2020, 08:01 PM
he came out of nowhere to basically be the best RB in the league for about 1.25 years and then got hurt and dieded for 3 years
That's pretty insane tbh :lol

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:03 PM
Surprised by how crisp both teams look without having a preseason.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:04 PM
I got very very sick in 2017 so I didn't pay much attention to any sport for a while tbh.
bad batch of peanut butter?

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:04 PM
Offenses humming tbh

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:05 PM
Surprised by how crisp both teams look without having a preseason.
and a shortened offseason to boot. really think teams returning qb/coach duos will have a leg up

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:06 PM
Not sure if you're being serious but he was elite in 2016, hampered by injuries since then.
I remember him more for 15 than 16 honestly, think he had 200 yards on either a matinee game or a SNF game; while 16 was a down year for Arizona and Palmer was hurt all year that year. In 15 'Zona was the 2nd best team in the NFC.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:07 PM
bad batch of peanut butter?
well 2017 was a bad year for me because I was unemployed that year, but that meant a lot more madden, deep studying of football schemes, and of course watching all the actual games tbh.

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:07 PM
and a shortened offseason to boot. really think teams returning qb/coach duos will have a leg up
Good point.

Hopefully that means Newton really lit up the practice field to win the starting job over Stidham despite Stidham having so much more experience with the offense.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:08 PM
It was mentioned that Watson was bad about trying to force the ball to Hopkins last year and the offense as a whole might be better this year overall even though Hopkins is Hopkins. I can sort of see that. Lots of speed and both backs are receivers.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:08 PM
DeMarcus Robinson fucking sucks, :lmao why the fuck did the Chiefs re-sign that loser when they have 3 studs in Hill, Watkins and Hardman, plus Kelce?

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:09 PM
It was mentioned that Watson was bad about trying to force the ball to Hopkins last year and the offense as a whole might be better this year overall even though Hopkins is Hopkins. I can sort of see that. Lots of speed and both backs are receivers.
I could see successful plays where they role David Johnson out and line him up as a WR, Brian Westbrook style.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:10 PM
Good point.

Hopefully that means Newton really lit up the practice field to win the starting job over Stidham despite Stidham having so much more experience with the offense.
one year of experience is "so much"? :lmao

Newton is 3-0 with the Panthers against the mighty Patriots in his career. Two of those games were quite close, one of them came down to a field goal and another came down to the refs not calling holding on Gronk in the endzone on the last play, but Newton has always played his best football in front of Belichick, so the signing was hardly surprising.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:11 PM
It was mentioned that Watson was bad about trying to force the ball to Hopkins last year and the offense as a whole might be better this year overall even though Hopkins is Hopkins. I can sort of see that. Lots of speed and both backs are receivers.
stafford arguably improved as a player after calvin retired tbh, but sometimes the receiver is so good they make up for it

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:11 PM
It was mentioned that Watson was bad about trying to force the ball to Hopkins last year and the offense as a whole might be better this year overall even though Hopkins is Hopkins. I can sort of see that. Lots of speed and both backs are receivers.
The "Kelvin Benjamin Cam Newton 2015 theory" tbh.

When Benji came back in 2016 the Panthers offense was expected to go from amazing to double amazing, but instead it faltered to 6-10 :lol

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:11 PM
one year of experience is "so much"? :lmao

Newton is 3-0 with the Panthers against the mighty Patriots in his career. Two of those games were quite close, one of them came down to a field goal and another came down to the refs not calling holding on Gronk in the endzone on the last play, but Newton has always played his best football in front of Belichick, so the signing was hardly surprising.
I might put you on ignore this year because of how annoying your football opinions are. More posts like this and it's a certainty :tu

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:12 PM
stafford arguably improved as a player after calvin retired tbh, but sometimes the receiver is so good they make up for it
this, too... but 2014 was Stafford's best year and Megatron was definitely there. 2016 was the year after he retired and Stafford was very good and they made the playoffs that year, but they haven't since.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:12 PM
I could see successful plays where they role David Johnson out and line him up as a WR, Brian Westbrook style.
Just gotta keep him healthy and Fuller's hamstrings intact tbh

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:13 PM
I might put you on ignore this year because of how annoying your football opinions are. More posts like this and it's a certainty :tu
Wtf was wrong with my post, tbh? Stidham is clearly the inferior choice.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:14 PM
I might put you on ignore this year because of how annoying your football opinions are. More posts like this and it's a certainty :tu
His reply to me was in the same vein. He just vomits nonsense.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:14 PM
was that a designed QB run on 3rd and 10?

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:15 PM
Wtf was wrong with my post, tbh? Stidham is clearly the inferior choice.
He practiced with the first team offense most of the year last year because of how little Brady practiced, and reports were that he had good chemistry with the offense. Newton wasn't just handed the starting job, he had to show something in camp.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:15 PM
I might put you on ignore this year because of how annoying your football opinions are. More posts like this and it's a certainty :tu
he has a history of comedically bad takes... only time i put him on ignore is when he would spam the gameday threads into oblivion

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:17 PM
I could see successful plays where they role David Johnson out and line him up as a WR, Brian Westbrook style.
Duke Johnson also has WR experience, so they've got a lot of interchangeable parts. I still doesn't think it makes up for not having an elite WR1, but they have some toys to play with for sure.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:17 PM
He practiced with the first team offense most of the year last year because of how little Brady practiced, and reports were that he had good chemistry with the offense. Newton wasn't just handed the starting job, he had to show something in camp.
so you don't think Newton will be starting week 1 vs Miami this Sunday?

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:18 PM
Normally I'd find these BLM and social justice commercials getting spammed during a football game annoying as fuck, but it's actually hilarious knowing how much conservatives are triggered by them.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:19 PM
he has a history of comedically bad takes... only time i put him on ignore is when he would spam the gameday threads into oblivion
It was when I said two-time Raider / now two-time Seahawk Ben Mayowa was better than raider traitor khalil smack

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:19 PM
Gotta come up with that pick

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:20 PM
so you don't think Newton will be starting week 1 vs Miami this Sunday?
My point was that since Newton won the starting job, it means he had to have shown something in practice since Stidham had a certain level of established chemistry with the offense. He clearly wasn't just given the starting job once he was signed, he earned it playing well in camp.

I'm not going to explain that again to try to understand the very basic thing I'm saying this time.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 08:20 PM
Getting gashed tbh

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:20 PM
That LSU back is short but really tough to take down, a bulldog with leverage like crazy, way better than Damien Williams tbh

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:22 PM
Getting gashed tbh


That LSU back is short but really tough to take down, a bulldog with leverage like crazy, way better than Damien Williams tbh
fresh prince of hel aire

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:22 PM
LSU is lucky that the Big Ten (tOSU/Michigan) and the Pac 12 opted out, otherwise without this guy and Burrow (and a lot of their defense) they wouldn't have a snowball's shot at a final 4 college football playoff birth tbh.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:23 PM
LSU is lucky that the Big Ten (tOSU/Michigan) and the Pac 12 opted out, otherwise without this guy and Burrow (and a lot of their defense) they wouldn't have a snowball's shot at a final 4 college football playoff birth tbh.
justin jefferson too. but jamarr chase was already the best WR in college, he alone would have kept them relevant tbh. monster.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:24 PM
fresh prince of hel aire
He looks like zeeeeeeeeeeeeeke out there tbh :lol

grindin' them 7-8 yards per carry

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:25 PM
but yeah these short backs are always difficult to tackle because of how low their center of gravity is. its why MJD and Doug Martin were so effective. helaire isnt as strong as those two... has more westbrook/mccoy to him.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:25 PM
Getting gashed tbh
Week 6 last year roles reversed tbh.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:26 PM
this drive is brutal. long, slow, almost exclusively running. if the chiefs can beat you that way, you're in for a long game

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:27 PM
robinson FINALLY caught one... about damn time... expected him to drop it like the last two

Will Hunting
09-10-2020, 08:28 PM
this drive is brutal. long, slow, almost exclusively running. if the chiefs can beat you that way, you're in for a long game
The rest of the NFL might be in for a long season if the Chiefs are now this good at running the ball.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:29 PM
I think that one stands, elbow was down short but he wasn't touched. Even if called back, the Chiefs will get the TD on the ground with Helaire.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:30 PM
The rest of the NFL might be in for a long season if the Chiefs are now this good at running the ball.
that Kelechi Osemele pickup on the OL could be huge. he was a beast in baltimore, and then dominated for 1-2 years on the raiders before falling off. traded to the jets, got hurt and cut. he's been plowing the road so far this game.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:30 PM
The rest of the NFL might be in for a long season if the Chiefs are now this good at running the ball.
Exactly what I was thinking. :lol

Only real issue on their team is the back 7 imo and even there they have some players like Mathieu and Thornhill.

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:32 PM
just realized houston has PJ Hall... hope he does well there. i dont think the staff in oakland gave him a fair shake, tho he did show up to camp out of shape b2b years. i just remember his twitter handle was PJJWatt and now he plays next to JJ :lol

RD2191
09-10-2020, 08:34 PM
bad batch of peanut butter?
:lol

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:35 PM
16 play drive that ate up most of the quarter... as if the chiefs werent enough of a problem without a run game :lol

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:39 PM
also, texans offense has been very... measured. no big plays. i know they lost hopkins but cooks/fuller are both plenty capable of being big play guys. cooks was injured last year but had been a 1000 yard/#1 receiver for the 4 prior seasons

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:45 PM
Fairbairn is one of the worst kickers in the league; why didn't the Texans ever get around to replace him? Lots of guys available tbh.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:47 PM
Well it took 5 years but Watkins finally lived up to his #4 overall pick status... meanwhile the Great God OBJ will forever be a ringless clown

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:49 PM
Well it took 5 years but Watkins finally lived up to his #4 overall pick status... meanwhile the Great God OBJ will forever be a ringless clown
watkins blowing his load in week 1 is not very uncommon tbh :lol

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 08:50 PM
texans need to do a better job leveraging DJ's productivity into big plays. offense looks pretty dull

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:51 PM
watkins blowing his load in week 1 is not very uncommon tbh :lol
Not untrue, but he was also elite in the Super Bowl last year, tbh, and that's what makes otherwise ok players great.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:52 PM
texans need to do a better job leveraging DJ's productivity into big plays. offense looks pretty dull
they need to send him out in more traditional WR1 routes (Hopkins routes), because he might be their best tough-catch alpha WR even though he's also a running back. Problem with Cooks and Fuller is they're speed guys but not tough, contested catch guys.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 08:55 PM
Damien Williams was never all that good; he's an average speed back that benefited of Mahomes. He was good at home runs, but lousy on 3rd & short, which really cost them against the Patriots in the 18-19 championship game.

The Chiefs' offense last year definitely took a step back from the Kareem Hunt era Chiefs with Mahomes. Maybe the Helaire acquisition brings back that dynamic part of their game. Because the Chiefs offense just wasn't as good last year with Williams instead of Hunt.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:00 PM
Fairbairn is one of the worst kickers in the league; why didn't the Texans ever get around to replace him? Lots of guys available tbh.
He was one of the best kickers in the league in 2018. Would you just stop talking.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:03 PM
texans need to do a better job leveraging DJ's productivity into big plays. offense looks pretty dull
Vanilla as fuck. Kelly looks like he's been told to stay inside the O'Brien parameters or he'll get his privileges yanked

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:05 PM
Shortest halftime ever

Osemele is the real deal tonight

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:08 PM
:lol how was that NOT OPI on Watkins?

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:08 PM
The league is in trouble tbh

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:10 PM
Welp, the Chiefs have officially got their missing link (Kareem Hunt) to their offense back, tbh. :lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:11 PM
Vanilla as fuck. Kelly looks like he's been told to stay inside the O'Brien parameters or he'll get his privileges yanked
I think O'Brien gets "yanked" at the end of the 2020 season tbh. This is his 2015 Chip Kelly year. All autonomy, all risk, and I don't see them making the playoffs this year even as good as Watson is.

Robz4000
09-10-2020, 09:13 PM
Chiefs were always gonna get back to the AFCCG tbh, they're like the Patriots of the past decade. There's no other team outside maybe the Ravens that can challenge them. Then they get the NFC champ after they have to go through a bloodbath.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:15 PM
Jesus fuck will you throw down field

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:16 PM
Vanilla as fuck. Kelly looks like he's been told to stay inside the O'Brien parameters or he'll get his privileges yanked
gotta do something. set up a screen, have DJ run routes. Watson isn't going to be at his best in a dink and dunk scheme

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:17 PM
Jesus fuck will you throw down field
no no, motion the TE into the backfield to be a lead blocker and run duke johnson up the gut

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:17 PM
:lmao 3 straight duke johnson run plays

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:18 PM
no no, motion the TE into the backfield to be a lead blocker and run duke johnson up the gut
I was hoping Kelly might show some different looks but O'Brien's fingerprints are all over this offense. Gonna be a long year. I feel sorry for Watson

Robz4000
09-10-2020, 09:19 PM
Bill O'Brien gonna coach the Texans to a 6-10 record and still keep his job (and his GM abilities). Feel sorry for Texans fans.

Robz4000
09-10-2020, 09:20 PM
I was hoping Kelly might show some different looks but O'Brien's fingerprints are all of this offense. Gonna be a long year. I feel sorry for Watson

Watson got paid, he's happy. He'll suck it up for a few seasons then move on to a team in need of a QB and ring.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:20 PM
Bill O'Brien gonna coach the Texans to a 6-10 record and still keep his job (and his GM abilities). Feel sorry for Texans fans.
Yep. Cal loves him. Watson will play half his contract and demand a trade

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:21 PM
Watson got paid, he's happy. He'll suck it up for a few seasons then move on to a team in need of a QB and ring.


Yep. Cal loves him. Watson will play half his contract and demand a trade
:tu

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:22 PM
Yep. Cal loves him. Watson will play half his contract and demand a trade
tbh i never thought BOB was a terrible coach, just a god awful GM. texans offenses in recent years had been plenty good. this new playcaller is a former D-Lineman?

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:22 PM
Bill O'Brien gonna coach the Texans to a 6-10 record and still keep his job (and his GM abilities). Feel sorry for Texans fans.
Nope, O'Bummer is finally gonna get the axe, like Garrett did last year. Houston will suck nuts and have a 2013 like season even despite having a great QB and HB but a bad rest of their team, terribly overpaid average left tackle etc., and alas, a regime chance.

Maybe Eric Beineimy from KC coaches the Texans next year? It makes sense since Watson is a slightly poorer man's Mahomes.

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:26 PM
Imagine Watson in a 9ers uni :ihit

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:29 PM
tbh i never thought BOB was a terrible coach, just a god awful GM. texans offenses in recent years had been plenty good. this new playcaller is a former D-Lineman?
He's had his moments on offense(mostly because Watson came to him and forced him to build an offense around him) but he's a horrible in game coach with both decision making and clock management. Supposedly Kelly really knew his shit on offense even though he's a former defensive player but it looks like he's just another BOB yes man.

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:29 PM
David Johnson saving Houston's reputation off that trade of Hopkins, tbh

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:31 PM
Mahomie needs to step it up for my fantasy team but :lol Texans :lol will allow him to sit the entire 4Q

Trainwreck2100
09-10-2020, 09:31 PM
wtf why not snap the ball there? you're down 3 scores

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:32 PM
good to see houston running out the clock to end the 3rd quarter down 17 tbh

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:33 PM
David Johnson saving Houston's reputation off that trade of Hopkins, tbh
he looks fine individually, but not if its at the cost of their offense having no form of chunk plays

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:33 PM
Imagine Watson in a 9ers uni :ihit
It'd be like 2012/2013 all over again for the Niners. Garoppolo isn't terrible but he's not a dynamic dual threat guy and he's not such an elite passer as Brees or Brady to make up for that shortcoming in the modern NFL era.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:34 PM
good to see houston running out the clock to end the 3rd quarter down 17 tbh

wtf why not snap the ball there? you're down 3 scores
you 2 stole my post :tu marry me tbh

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:35 PM
rip bene's liver

RD2191
09-10-2020, 09:35 PM
:downspin:

RD2191
09-10-2020, 09:35 PM
rip bene's liver
:lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:35 PM
CROFL :lmao 40 Million :lmao

Robz4000
09-10-2020, 09:37 PM
rip bene's liver

Its been dead a while tbh. I think at this point he lives off hate alone.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:37 PM
that's a throw I'd expect a Dak or Kaepernick to throw. Disappointed in Watson tbh.

benefactor
09-10-2020, 09:41 PM
Welp, I think I'll get serious about tomorrow's hangover. Be well, gents.

RD2191
09-10-2020, 09:43 PM
Its been dead a while tbh. I think at this point he lives off hate alone.
:lmao

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 09:43 PM
completely unnecessary penalty

MultiTroll
09-10-2020, 09:44 PM
Hope you missed it beanerfactor.

Houston rookie db had no reason to interfere on that INT.
Blew the whole play. KC receiver was not going to catch the ball nor block the INT.

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 09:47 PM
Whats stupid about the Chefs in fantasy is every team has 1 or multiple Chefs players. So it's a wash.

I have Mahomie and Hardman. My opponent has CEH and Tyreek Hill. Watkins is a FA per usual and will get bids after this annual week 1 explosion. Only to shit on his future owner all year

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 09:53 PM
Whats stupid about the Chefs in fantasy is every team has 1 or multiple Chefs players. So it's a wash.

I have Mahomie and Hardman. My opponent has CEH and Tyreek Hill. Watkins is a FA per usual and will get bids after this annual week 1 explosion. Only to shit on his future owner all year
Hardman has barely played on offense. It's not a good sign if scrubs like Robinson and Pringle are beating him out for offensive snaps. He was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill. Hope he isn't just limited to special teams and jet sweeps, he's a good player. Maybe a trade candidate if the Chiefs need, say someone on defense.

phxspurfan
09-10-2020, 10:00 PM
Hardman has barely played on offense. It's not a good sign if scrubs like Robinson and Pringle are beating him out for offensive snaps. He was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill. Hope he isn't just limited to special teams and jet sweeps, he's a good player. Maybe a trade candidate if the Chiefs need, say someone on defense.

Unfortunately the game3 script called for loads of CEH this game, since Houston dominated time of possession apparently in their last win over the Chefs. I'll personally hold onto him (bench) for the next few weeks and hope he gets featured at some point. After that, I'd go after someone on my waiver wire like Jeudy

Trainwreck2100
09-10-2020, 10:01 PM
Whats stupid about the Chefs in fantasy is every team has 1 or multiple Chefs players. So it's a wash.

I have Mahomie and Hardman. My opponent has CEH and Tyreek Hill. Watkins is a FA per usual and will get bids after this annual week 1 explosion. Only to shit on his future owner all year

i got CEH the consensus was that he'd be consistent this year, he's my only chief though

Trainwreck2100
09-10-2020, 10:05 PM
Unfortunately the game3 script called for loads of CEH this game, since Houston dominated time of possession apparently in their last win over the Chefs. I'll personally hold onto him (bench) for the next few weeks and hope he gets featured at some point. After that, I'd go after someone on my waiver wire like Jeudy

they didn't use him in the passing game though he got thrown to once, and got blown up when he caught it

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 10:05 PM
Whats stupid about the Chefs in fantasy is every team has 1 or multiple Chefs players. So it's a wash.

I have Mahomie and Hardman. My opponent has CEH and Tyreek Hill. Watkins is a FA per usual and will get bids after this annual week 1 explosion. Only to shit on his future owner all year
once Watkins redid his deal to stay with the team Hardman was completely off my fantasy radar. in games that both watkins and hill were active hardman rarely even saw a target.

mahomes/hill/kelce/helaire are the every week fantasy plays... watkins maybe as a flex or bye week fill-in. thats not really THAT many guys. plenty of teams have that many relevant fantasy players. saints with brees/kamara/thomas/cook, etc

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 10:06 PM
Unfortunately the game3 script called for loads of CEH this game, since Houston dominated time of possession apparently in their last win over the Chefs. I'll personally hold onto him (bench) for the next few weeks and hope he gets featured at some point. After that, I'd go after someone on my waiver wire like Jeudy
Jeudy makes more sense post the Von Miller injury, since their defense will likely not be good enough to keep the Broncos in games this year. That means they will be losing most of the time and thus face a lot of soft zone defense playing from behind. But I'm not a Drew Lock believer either, so it's meh

benefactor
09-10-2020, 10:11 PM
:lol garbage time points

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 10:20 PM
Well my prediction in the OP was 34-24 Chiefs... well I got the 34 right and almost got Houston's score right, tbh. Good work Millennial_Messiah :toast

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 10:36 PM
CEH is a problem

spurraider21
09-10-2020, 10:38 PM
Tytus Howard... yikes

1304246444392497153

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 10:38 PM
CEH is a problem
he seems to struggle on the short yardage stuff though, just like Williams. He doesn't have that Hunt or Zeke type of physicality at the point of attack.

Spurtacular
09-10-2020, 10:44 PM
Damn, this snuck up on me. I'm just seeing they canceled all preseason games.

Millennial_Messiah
09-10-2020, 10:48 PM
Damn, this snuck up on me. I'm just seeing they canceled all preseason games.

Vikings rodgers week 1 on sunday, might as well be a home game for Rodgers because no fans in Minnesota's dome for a month at least

Spurtacular
09-11-2020, 12:15 AM
a month at least

It'll all magically go away after the election.

Spurtacular
09-11-2020, 12:16 AM
Vikings rodgers week 1 on sunday, might as well be a home game for Rodgers

Doubt that's a coincidence. League prefers Packers/Bears over Vikings/Lions in that division.

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 07:41 AM
Doubt that's a coincidence. League prefers Packers/Bears over Vikings/Lions in that division.

& the Bears haven't had a competent QB in generations, so GB more or less has dominated the last 30 years there

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 07:41 AM
It'll all magically go away after the election.

If & only if 45 holds.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 10:46 AM
If & only if 45 holds.
Care to make a wager on Carolina/Dallas?

Will Hunting
09-11-2020, 11:15 AM
Care to make a wager on Carolina/Dallas?
You ready for Cam to take a shit on the Dolphins this week scrah?

FrostKing
09-11-2020, 01:06 PM
https://i.ibb.co/LRqMDkq/20200911-110204.jpg

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 02:25 PM
https://i.ibb.co/LRqMDkq/20200911-110204.jpg

Clown News Network at it again.

They were booing the liberal nonsensical bullshit event itself and the reasoning behind it, not the players themselves. If you were actually watching/listening, you could hear several "TRUMP!!, TRUMP BABY!! and TRUMP 2020!!" screams from the crowd. The actual people voting know what's up.

Leftists always love to spin shit in order to fit their narrative and progressivist agenda :lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 02:25 PM
Care to make a wager on Carolina/Dallas?

I'll bet you US $70K real money that Dallas gets more wins than Carolina in the 2020 NFL Season.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:27 PM
You ready for Cam to take a shit on the Dolphins this week scrah?
Yessir.

Miami has a dangerous team this year, but Im not sure what all this “Cam has no weapons” is all about. He hasnt had weapons his entire tenure in Carolina. Hes used to carrying the team. Hes a superstar.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:28 PM
I'll bet you US $70K real money that Dallas gets more wins than Carolina in the 2020 NFL Season.
Lol , a more realistic wager , and Ill take you up on it

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 02:30 PM
Yessir.

Miami has a dangerous team this year, but Im not sure what all this “Cam has no weapons” is all about. He hasnt had weapons his entire tenure in Carolina. Hes used to carrying the team. Hes a superstar.

eh, 7-9 at best, Tua needs time and Fitzpatrick is never good for more wins than losses, though he can be fun to watch.

I think people especially Stupid Skip Bayless are severely overestimating Buffalo, who had the easiest schedule in the history of the NFL last year and had everything go right and still went 10-6. They have a bottom 3 QB and bottom 5 HC. They are trash and their overrated "defense" can't stop the run.

New England is still winning that division. It may not be pretty, it may be 8-8 or similar, but they'll be better than Buffalo for sure.

I think the Jets are better than Buffalo tbh.

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 02:31 PM
Lol , a more realistic wager , and Ill take you up on it

Carolina gets under 6 wins in 2020. $70K real money. Take it or leave it.

Don't forget you're playing in a division with Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Julio Jones so that's 6 losses right there :lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:34 PM
Buffalo has a large influence of former Panthers GM, coaches & players from their Super Bowl run. They have an established culture there, they will do well. With the extra wildcard spot starting this year, they both make the playoffs. Josh Allen is the QB for the Bills. McDermott knows how to coach a QB similar to him in Cam Newton. His stats arent pretty, but he does exactly what they want him to do.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:35 PM
Carolina gets under 6 wins in 2020. $70K real money. Take it or leave it.

Don't forget you're playing in a division with Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Julio Jones so that's 6 losses right there :lol

Kurt Warner predicted Bridgewater to throw for 5k and 40 TD’s this year. The offense will win games. Theres no game tape on Carolina.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:38 PM
Its funny to see people crowning the Bucs, and especially the Falcons lol. What exactly have the Falcons done? They were a trainwreck, their fans wanted their coach fired, Matt Ryan is a known big game choker, even before his Super Bowl meltdown.

Tom Brady doesnt even fit into the Bucs system. They are a vertical attack offense. Thats why Winston got killed and threw so many picks last year. Brady is going to get hit. Fournette is their third string running back, because they have such a deep ball reliance.

You dont watch the NFC South play

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Kurt Warner predicted Bridgewater to throw for 5k and 40 TD’s this year. The offense will win games. Theres no game tape on Carolina.

:lmao Bridgecheckdowner? He's a backup grade QB at best. Brandon Weeden is a good comp. If it wasn't for him getting lucky to have the GOAT short-throw possession receiver in Michael Thomas (not to mention a top 3 scatback in Kamara, top 5 O-Line, and a helluva defense to support the Saints when Brees was out), he'd be out of the league.

Carolina does have another top 3 scatback, yes, but a bunch of receivers that would rather go deep, no Michael Thomas, bottom tier O-Line, defense lost all their talent in the offseason. 5-11 is an extremely generous ceiling. They could get Trevor Lawrence next year, though.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 02:57 PM
All Im saying is that its easy to sit there and bet against the team with no expectations. But maybe you should humble yourself, listen to others who follow the team, and you wont have to act all surprised and butthurt later in the season.

leemajors
09-11-2020, 03:36 PM
Clown News Network at it again.

They were booing the liberal nonsensical bullshit event itself and the reasoning behind it, not the players themselves. If you were actually watching/listening, you could hear several "TRUMP!!, TRUMP BABY!! and TRUMP 2020!!" screams from the crowd. The actual people voting know what's up.

Leftists always love to spin shit in order to fit their narrative and progressivist agenda :lol

You're a shitbird

benefactor
09-11-2020, 04:10 PM
:lol guitardude and Nolyfecatman slap fighting

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 07:17 PM
:lol guitardude and Nolyfecatman slap fighting
Im surprised beenafaggot is still alive from his constant drinking after Houston L’s. Was hoping so anyways so we wouldnt have to seen anymore of those Ozzy Osbourne-like drunk rant/posts

Millennial_Messiah
09-11-2020, 07:25 PM
All Im saying is that its easy to sit there and bet against the team with no expectations. But maybe you should humble yourself, listen to others who follow the team, and you wont have to act all surprised and butthurt later in the season.
Lemee put it to you this way... there's gonna be 3 double-digit win teams in your division... you're the 4th team.

spurraider21
09-11-2020, 07:58 PM
catman is just a typical homer. any time somebody says they dont think carolina will be good and its just "lol ignorant, bad take." but andy is straight up retarded

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-11-2020, 08:02 PM
Lemee put it to you this way... there's gonna be 3 double-digit win teams in your division... you're the 4th team.
I dont hace expectations, you still dont know what youre talking about

Millennial_Messiah
09-12-2020, 09:04 AM
catman is just a typical homer. any time somebody says they dont think carolina will be good and its just "lol ignorant, bad take." but andy is straight up retarded
"homer" with a Belichicks skin after saying cheatriots for the past decade :lol

I'll bet my entire ST posting career that, say if Prescott is the QB in New England next year, I won't be doing his schtick. As a matter of fact I don't care what team Prescott joins, either in 2021 or 2022. I'll be thanking Jerry for not overpaying an average QB like Prescott or Cam Newton and continuing to build the defense, keep the 3 WR stooges intact, and build the trenches.

Andy Dalton the starting QB on a 4 yr/40 million type deal + drafting a new QB under the rookie contract, is way better value/equal performance than Dak for 35-40 mil a year

SpursforSix
09-12-2020, 09:15 AM
Andy Dalton the starting QB on a 4 yr/40 million type deal + drafting a new QB under the rookie contract, is way better value/equal performance than Dak for 35-40 mil a year
I don’t believe anyone believes that you believe that.

Millennial_Messiah
09-12-2020, 09:35 AM
I don’t believe anyone believes that you believe that.

when I say 4 year/40 million, I'm saying 10 million a year. You can even guarantee the money to Dalton (he's plenty well off already from his Cincinnati contracts and he'd accept it considering his age and status; look at how much guys like Tyrod are getting paid), it'd allow us to have 3 big names on the roster that we wouldn't have if we kept Dak at how much money he wants. Plus, we draft a rookie QB, if it's not Lawrence then maybe we can get a project like Dak was in the mid rounds, or maybe DiNucci develops, and/or we sign a veteran for cheap as insurance. Recall Romo was a UDFA. Cowboys haven't had a high QB pick since Aikman.

Dalton has been very effective offensively when he's had a good OL and receivers. Of course the roof fell off Cincinnati when the Bengals jettisoned Marvin Jones, Sanu, Whitworth, Zeitler etc and Eifert became chronically injured. But Dalton had a rejuvenation early in 2018 before their WR corps went down again. Dalton is just like Dak; he can be very good and score points and win football games with the right pieces, but he won't magically win a SB for you against all odds like a Brady or Mahomes. One is priced drastically different than the other; so why not take the one who's going to cost you 25-30% of the other?

Would you rather have

(A) Dak Prescott at top dollar, and only get to long-term keep 2 of the following names: Michael Gallup, Leighton Vander Esch, Aldon Smith (assuming he's back to his 2013 self), Randy Gregory (2018 version), and sign/acquire a top-tier young superstar DB?

or

(B) Andy Dalton or similar QB, and keep all of those names long-term + pick up some star young free agents to make the defense elite?


I'm a firm believer that, if you don't have an ELITE QB, there isn't a huge difference between the rabble. Prescott showed last year that he isn't elite. 4 chances for game winning drives at the end of games, and ...... 0/4. The difference between 8-8 and 12-4. Elite QBs win a minimum of 2 of those last-ditch drives, if not 3 or even all 4. Big games. Sure, Prescott averaged 500+ yards against the easy teams and blew them off the field... any QB can do that. But, Prescott came up short in the biggest moments of his contract year. He didn't deserve a new contract, and he's lucky to be playing on the tag at $31 million for 2020.

If the covid drops the cap, who knows how much he'd get on the open market in 2021? We all expected guys like Winston and Newton to get deals minimum in the $20M AAV range because of their experience, but they got crappy low 7 figure deals. Sure, some team like Jacksonville who loses on the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes might pay Prescott what he wants, but they also might not. 50/50 chance. In today's NFL, there's a HUGE standard deviation between elite QBs and non-elite QBs. You're either in the $30M+ club (or close like Tannehill) or you're making basically 7 figures. Performance wise, there isn't a $25M difference between a guy like Goff or Tannehill versus a guy like Tyrod Taylor, Jameis Winston, Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. So why overpay and gut your roster unless you have a Mahomes or Rodgers? I just don't understand.

Millennial_Messiah
09-12-2020, 05:17 PM
The NFC week 1 games are actually really good matchups, tbh.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 08:41 AM
Good Morning!! Happy Week 1 Sunday :toast Very nice slate of games today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1UQ39OGqMk

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 11:01 AM
1 more hour!! Finally

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 11:51 AM
10 minutes baby! Let's use football to end covid.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:06 PM
We’re in the “Suck” portion of the Fitzpatrick Cycle, right?

https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/fitzpatrick.jpg?quality=80
He hasn't really gotten paid yet, it's hard to tell. I'd be extremely surprised if he makes it through the season as starter though.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:11 PM
Cam and Carolina looking good early

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:12 PM
Eagles look like a well oiled machine even though their OL is injured as fuck. 2017 form Wentz

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:14 PM
He hasn't really gotten paid yet, it's hard to tell. I'd be extremely surprised if he makes it through the season as starter though.
yeah, Tua is talented AF. Fitz is a place holder.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:16 PM
Wilson to Olsen is going to be a good pairing if the latter stays healthy this year.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:18 PM
None of these morning games are any good :lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:19 PM
Gonna have to get used to seeing our DB’s burned

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:22 PM
:lol 3rd and 25 and the Seahawks get bailed out because of the Failcons dumb secondary

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:23 PM
Damn Adrian Peterson still looks like he has plenty left in the tank.

i'm_still_beta
09-13-2020, 12:26 PM
Browns :lmao. It's going to be another long season

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:26 PM
I was wrong about Bridgewater out weapons look great

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:27 PM
:lmao Browns running a fake inside their own 30

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:27 PM
Browns :lmao. It's going to be another long season
:lol they were only down by 7 in the 1st quarter, why on earth would they run that play

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:27 PM
:lol 3rd and 25 and the Seahawks get bailed out because of the Failcons dumb secondary

Falcons winning ten games tho right?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:29 PM
CMC and Bridgewater

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:29 PM
:wow :wow WOW Jalen Reagor is the real deal.... 3rd & 27 conversion for 50 yards... and CIA Wentz knew to go after Ronald Darby, tbh :lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:29 PM
Falcons winning ten games tho right?
I already had them losing today. But they should win next week.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 12:31 PM
Moar fake crowd noise.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:32 PM
Redskins get 3 sacks on that drive (Chase Young and Kerrigan... wow) but the Eagles still get 3 points. That's a victory for Doug Pederson all day.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:33 PM
:lol they were only down by 7 in the 1st quarter, why on earth would they run that play
Still not as bad as Bill O'Brien doing that shit last year in the playoffs up double digits in the first half scared of losing the lead.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:34 PM
meanwhile, looks like the Legion of Boom is back. Jamal Adams The Enforcer... Quandre Diggs, Dunbar, Griffin. That's a badass secondary.

Chris Carson is a STUD. Already second receiving TD and it's only the first quarter.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:36 PM
Edelman's body is going to get wrecked if Cam throws passes to him like he's Kelvin Benjamin.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:37 PM
Not saying much but Patriots offense already looks better than it did in the 2nd half of last season.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:37 PM
Eagles and Seahawks playing lights out on both sides of the ball. Beautiful to see. :tu

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:39 PM
Not saying much but Patriots offense already looks better than it did in the 2nd half of last season.
Newton and his separated shoulder is a good fit for Belichick/McD's short, quick throw offense. James White is no CMC but he'll play that role with Newton there. That's why I have the Patriots winning the division, even if they win single digit games. I just don't buy the Buffalo hype. I think Buffalo might be the worst team in the division honestly.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:39 PM
Cam Caaaaaam Caaaaaaaam

Trainwreck2100
09-13-2020, 12:39 PM
how the fuck does James SLofton still have a job

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:39 PM
Newton and his separated shoulder is a good fit for Belichick/McD's short, quick throw offense. James White is no CMC but he'll play that role with Newton there. That's why I have the Patriots winning the division, even if they win single digit games. I just don't buy the Buffalo hype. I think Buffalo might be the worst team in the division honestly.

lol come on man

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 12:41 PM
If Cam just plays conservative they will DOMINATE time of possession because he can get a 5 yd run whenever he wants it.
Man where was this support with Superman on Carolina

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 12:45 PM
Fudge Packers denied on 4th and goal line.

phxspurfan
09-13-2020, 12:46 PM
Shehawks looking good so far, lots of production out of their RB and Jamal Adams playing well in their secondary

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 12:48 PM
Damn that false start saved the Vikings a fumble near their goal line.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 12:49 PM
Did Jamie Collins really just headbutt a ref with his helmet on :lmao

DeadlyDynasty
09-13-2020, 12:49 PM
If Allen could just hold on to the fucking ball our run game and D would pummel teams

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 12:49 PM
F'ing Vikes trusting Cousins pocket awareness in the endzone. So dumb.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 12:50 PM
Newton is starting QB for the Pats? Thought he had been signed as a backup.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 12:51 PM
:lol Cousins

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 01:02 PM
What a play by Dallas*!!!

(*Goedert)

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:02 PM
They talking SJW sh**. Ratings go down every time they do that, tbh.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:04 PM
:lol Cousins

Bottom 10 in QB mobility easy.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:07 PM
We're supposed to be satiated by cardboard cutouts in seats.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:08 PM
Jumping on 3rd and 3. SMH

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:12 PM
Damn, Adams got denied that first down. Sadly, Rodgers got the QB sneak on 4th and 1.

spurraider21
09-13-2020, 01:14 PM
dime

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but Ruggs checking into the locker room, yikes. he looked good early

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:15 PM
:lol it's not a good sign for Tua that the shitty version of Ryan Fitzpatrick won the starting job over him.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:20 PM
dime

1305207465823223809

but Ruggs checking into the locker room, yikes. he looked good early

Hate Cousins. Couldn't imagine being stuck with Carr though. :lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-13-2020, 01:22 PM
dime

1305207465823223809

but Ruggs checking into the locker room, yikes. he looked good early


Bridgewater looking good tbh. Exceeding my expectations

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:24 PM
On the one hand, I like having QB who can make plays with his feet.

On the orher hand, I really miss having a QB who can complete passes in the short middle.
Or who can make pre-snap reads and determine where blitzes are coming from. Both of Miami's sacks could have been avoided with pre snap adjustments.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:24 PM
Why not just put cameras on the refs?

That would be "the best view".

:lol Saying a human had the best view and trust him in this day and age.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:26 PM
Does Cousins not know the route, or did he just throw the ball that sh**?

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:32 PM
F*cking Cousins throwing an int and then the Vikings getting beat deep at the end of the half.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:36 PM
Getting the score under 2TDs going into half was big. But Vikes got to do much better in the 2nd half on both ends of the ball.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 01:44 PM
Getting the score under 2TDs going into half was big. But Vikes got to do much better in the 2nd half on both ends of the ball.
yeah, and they're not winning in a packed Lambeau house in the cold late in the year in their other meeting

the schedule really favors GB over MIN in the division this year, and the other two teams look sucky so far too

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:45 PM
yeah, and they're not winning in a packed Lambeau house in the cold late in the year in their other meeting

the schedule really favors GB over MIN in the division this year, and the other two teams look sucky so far too
:lol thinking stadiums are going to be anywhere near full capacity this year

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:49 PM
Seriously, how did Tua lose a QB battle against Shitzpatrick? :lmao
It didn't make sense to me why an undersized lefty was such a high pick to begin with. There's no way he was anything other than terrible in camp if Fitzpatrick won the job over him.

spurraider21
09-13-2020, 01:51 PM
Bridgewater looking good tbh. Exceeding my expectations
raiders pass rush has been non-existent. he's been getting time and carving them up.

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:52 PM
I have no fucking idea who J.J. Taylor is but I already like him more than Burkhead.

Spurtacular
09-13-2020, 01:54 PM
yeah, and they're not winning in a packed Lambeau house in the cold late in the year in their other meeting

the schedule really favors GB over MIN in the division this year, and the other two teams look sucky so far too

Well, I try to temper my expectations with the Zimmer/Cousins ticket.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 01:55 PM
:wow :wow :wow

Since when did Pete Carroll grow testicles? I guess even at 70 years old it's not too late, tbh. :lol But he ALWAYS punts in that situation.

What a bomb to Metcalf on 4th down!!

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2020, 01:57 PM
Oh, god. Wentz :lmao :bang

spurraider21
09-13-2020, 01:58 PM
:wow :wow :wow

Since when did Pete Carroll grow testicles? I guess even at 70 years old it's not too late, tbh. :lol But he ALWAYS punts in that situation.

What a bomb to Metcalf on 4th down!!
wilson is the best deep ball passer in the league. metcalf couldnt have landed in a better spot

Will Hunting
09-13-2020, 01:58 PM
:lmao drafting N'Keal Harry over Metcalf