Bob Woodward's New Book "Rage"

[DMX7]

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about this. :lol

[baseline bum]

Will be interesting to see KarrinS come explain how Trump's disinformation campaign and rallies throughout February and March when he knew the virus was spread via airborne transmission were a good thing.

[Spurtacular]

Should be a good comfort read for any chumpette, tbh.

[DMX7]

#TrumpKnew

[FrostKing]

:sleep

[Reck]

OBAMA SPIED ON ME.

Back to the one hit wonders for Trump.

[Will Hunting]

OBAMA SPIED ON ME.

Back to the one hit wonders for Trump.
:lol I just turned it on and he's rambling about Michael Flynn. What's the story there?

[Reck]

:lol I just turned it on and he's rambling about Michael Flynn. What's the story there?

Same theme that the democrats ruined the great general Michael Flynn with the fake hoax investigation led by Comey.

[DMC]

Will be interesting to see KarrinS come explain how Trump's disinformation campaign and rallies throughout February and March when he knew the virus was spread via airborne transmission were a good thing.

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

[clambake]

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

Have you sat down your grandkids yet?

[Bogie]

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

full morbidly obese loser trumptard activated.

you really are a piece of shit. No wonder your family has nothing to do with you, and will only feel relief when you choke on that last triple whataburger

[Reck]

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

DMC were you always this partisan? No longer fence sitting.

[Splits]

1304147824355966977

1304149500127313922

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

:lmao cancelling a campaign trip to Michigan for that pointless press conference

[spurraider21]

1304147824355966977

1304149500127313922

:lmao
:lmao jesus christ... this guy has access to the highest level briefings and he still gets his information from cable news

[Spurtacular]

OBAMA SPIED ON ME.

Back to the one hit wonders for Trump.

Are you still in denial about Obamagate, wreck?

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao jesus christ... this guy has access to the highest level briefings and he still gets his information from cable news

Muhamad.... Perception is reality, Lite. He should trust the deep state more. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao cancelling a campaign trip to Michigan for that pointless press conference

Sure hope Zombie Rapist doesn't swoop in, amirite?

[Reck]

Derp melting down

[Will Hunting]

Derp melting down
:lol is he still replying to me?

[DarrinS]

Bombshell, tbh

1303784410068791298

[baseline bum]

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

Trumptard dodges of course

[Reck]

Bombshell, tbh

1303784410068791298

"I could cause panic better than you."

:lol Karrin the piece of shit.

[ChumpDumper]

Bombshell, tbh

1303784410068791298

Why do you support Trump?

[Reck]

:lol is he still replying to me?

I have him on ignore too. I just sometimes click to view his spew. But yes, yes he is.

[baseline bum]

Bombshell, tbh

1303784410068791298

President engaging in a disinformation campaign to minimize a virus and lead to the US becoming the world COVID epicenter with 1/5 of the world's deaths? No big deal. Not like incandescent lightbulbs.

[ChumpDumper]

President engaging in a disinformation campaign to minimize a virus and lead to the US becoming the world COVID epicenter with 1/5 of the world's deaths? No big deal. Not like incandescent lightbulbs.

:lmao Black President made Karrin lose his mind.

[baseline bum]

:lmao Black President made Karrin lose his mind.

He really is one of the deplorables

[Reck]

:lmao Black President made Karrin lose his mind.

I think that's why Karrin came out of the closet fully. Both Trump and Karrin have strong disdain for black men. One got orally annihilated and the other got physically assaulted and never got over it.

:lol Still living in fear of getting jumped by a pack of blacks in Texas.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao cancelling a campaign trip to Michigan for that pointless press conference

1304143826861268994

[Spurminator]

If Karrin's brain wasn't mush from the alcoholism I bet he could figure out the difference between encouraging optimism and what his Dear Leader has done.

[DMC]

:lmao jesus christ... this guy has access to the highest level briefings and he still gets his information from cable news

So you think he's actually saying that's where he got his information? :lol

He said YOU can watch it, that the information exists for normal people. Jesus the reaching some of you do is cartoonish. It's desperate tbh. I really hate to see it happen to people.

[clambake]

The d is for dick rider.

Have you had that talk with the grandkids yet?

[DMC]

If Karrin's brain wasn't mush from the alcoholism I bet he could figure out the difference between encouraging optimism and what his Dear Leader has done.

You could come up with some original thought that separates you from the collective Boutons echo chamber you belong to. That would be refreshing, but unexpected.

[DMC]

The d is for dick rider.

Have you had that talk with the grandkids yet?

Don't need to, not a sex offender like you tbh.

[Reck]

1304165477338484739

1304165209494491138

:lol

[clambake]

The grandkids. Tell the grandkids.

[Reck]

:lmao cancelling a campaign trip to Michigan for that pointless press conference

He's still going after all.

1304166420406767616

:lmao No masks in there.

Knowing full well trump lied to them and the Virus is deadly and they're still not taking precautions. These are the truly dumb do or die supporters.

[Splits]

He's still going after all.

1304166420406767616

:lmao No masks in there.

Knowing full well trump lied to them and the Virus is deadly and they're still not taking precautions. These are the truly dumb do or die supporters.

Weekend at Herman's

They better prop his corpse up or I'm gonna be disappointed.

[clambake]

Weekend at Herman's

They better prop his corpse up or I'm gonna be disappointed.

Lol

[spurraider21]

So you think he's actually saying that's where he got his information? :lol

He said YOU can watch it, that the information exists for normal people. Jesus the reaching some of you do is cartoonish. It's desperate tbh. I really hate to see it happen to people.
yes. he says it outright.

"if they say half as much as i already know just from seeing it, you know you have people, i watch some of the shows..."

there isn't some genius wizard operating the bumbling vessel that is our president

[DMC]

yes. he says it outright.

"if they say half as much as i already know just from seeing it, you know you have people, i watch some of the shows..."

there isn't some genius wizard operating the bumbling vessel that is our president

The sentence didn't start with "if they say" He didn't say he only knows what he saw. Maybe take another English course.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump did say explicitly he watched basically all of Fox News' primetime programming and its morning show with a couple hours of FBN for good measure all in one day's time.:lol

[Will Hunting]

Trump did say explicitly he watched basically all of Fox News' primetime programming and its morning show with a couple hours of FBN for good measure all in one day's time.:lol
:lol imagine the limited brain that watches Hannity Tucker AND Ingraham. What do you get from the last 1 that you didn’t get from the first 2?

[Spurminator]

You could come up with some original thought that separates you from the collective Boutons echo chamber you belong to. That would be refreshing, but unexpected.

DerpMC to the rescue.

T-minus 30 minutes until his next "original" post about alts and cucks in defense of the forum retards.

[DMC]

DerpMC to the rescue.

T-minus 30 minutes until his next "original" post about alts and cucks in defense of the forum retards.

Keep trying, you'll get there eventually.

[DMC]

:lol imagine the limited brain that watches Hannity Tucker AND Ingraham. What do you get from the last 1 that you didn’t get from the first 2?

Smaller breasts?

[Spurminator]

Nip nip

(Yawn)

[DMC]

(Yawn)

Racist

[Will Hunting]

Smaller breasts?
That’s what Melania is for when he’s not ogling his daughterwife’s fake tits.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol imagine the limited brain that watches Hannity Tucker AND Ingraham. What do you get from the last 1 that you didn’t get from the first 2?And all that is after two or three hours of FBN with Lou Dobbs as your appetizer.:lmao

[spurraider21]

The sentence didn't start with "if they say" He didn't say he only knows what he saw. Maybe take another English course.
the earlier part of the sentence doesnt add any context to the point

"now, what the durham report is going to say, i cant tell you, but if they say half as much as i already know just from seeing it..." and then he goes on to list the shows he saw

[RandomGuy]

Also interested to see how the left dodges facts about how dems ignored everything and called acts to contain "racist", then got amnesia and everyone got a degree in revisionist history.

:lol DMC "facts"

Democrats didn't "ignore everything" after the scientists made clear how serious this was going to be, and were the first to call for some coordinated response.

The "acts to contain" were not all called racist.

Feel free to prove out your alternate reality.

[DMC]

the earlier part of the sentence doesnt add any context to the point

"now, what the durham report is going to say, i cant tell you, but if they say half as much as i already know just from seeing it..." and then he goes on to list the shows he saw

So if they say half as much as another show he saw... Still doesn't say he learned everything he knows there, just says the information is thorough enough for you and me. Not as sensational but more pragmatic. But carry on, obviously you feel your stature here is rising with each clever retort.

[spurraider21]

So if they say half as much as another show he saw... Still doesn't say he learned everything he knows there, just says the information is thorough enough for you and me. Not as sensational but more pragmatic.
i didnt claim thats where he learned everything he knows. but he said he doesnt know whats in the report, but thinks it will be a big deal if it has half the stuff that he heard about on fox over the last 2 days :lol


But carry on, obviously you feel your stature here is rising with each clever retort.
cant engage without making it personal

[boutons_deux]

Trash was President, not Woodward.

I imagine if Woodward would have tried to expose Trash's willful, criminal negligent homicide, criminal reckless endangerment,

Trash would said Woodward was lying and the entire Repug party and rightwing hate media would go nuts on Woodward.

Trash was President, not Woodward.

Trash and the Repugs have 150K+ dead Americans on their hands.

[DMC]

:lol DMC "facts"

Democrats didn't "ignore everything" after the scientists made clear how serious this was going to be, and were the first to call for some coordinated response.

The "acts to contain" were not all called racist.

Feel free to prove out your alternate reality.

Just stop. New Yorkers were out on droves after it was known to be in the US. The protesters and rioters didn't seem to care nor did the college kids on spring break.

Trump doesn't have COVID. Fredo? Ya he had it, so he says, and didn't quarantine like he was supposed to. Then NY started lying about their fuck ups and here you are peddling their shit.

[DMX7]

1304147824355966977

1304149500127313922

:lmao

add in all the time he spends golfing and talking to Bob Woodward and you have to wonder if he does anything as president other than that and screaming "russia hoax".

[Will Hunting]

The goods

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[Spurtacular]

The goods

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Orange Man bad for calling out the terrorists.

:lolK.

[Will Hunting]

I can't read your post Derp you're on ignore

[Warlord23]

How fucking stupid is Trump that he voluntarily told his dirtiest secrets to a man who's famous for taking down a sitting US president?

Not as stupid as the Trumpholes who're still defending this orange moron

[Spurtacular]

:lmao cancelling a campaign trip to Michigan for that pointless press conference

:lmao Watching Trump in Freeland, Michigan right now, bruh.

[DMX7]

I can't read your post Derp you're on ignore

Derp is the biggest waste of space here. I don't even read his threads, so I probably shouldn't waste my time with his other posts either.

[DMC]

Spurtacular on ignore, still gets all your mental square footage rent free :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Watching Trump in Freeland, Michigan right now, bruh.:lol you're way behind.

[DMX7]

The goods

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My god.... So sick of his act.

[Bogie]

:lol is he still replying to me?


it’s truly truly frightening how stupid he is.

[Spurtacular]

:lol you're way behind.

Derp bragging that he's a bigger Trump fan.

:lolK

[ChumpDumper]

Derp bragging that he's a bigger Trump fan.

:lolK:lol I'm telling you we already know he went to Michigan, derp.

:lmao the name is STILL killing you

[Bogie]

Spurtacular on ignore, still gets all your mental square footage rent free :lol

So fatty, were you fat all your life?

[Spurtacular]

:lol I'm telling you we already know he went to Michigan, derp.

:lmao the name is STILL killing you

You're a huge Trump fan, derp.

[Warlord23]

Now Tucker Carlson is blaming Lindsey Graham for setting up Trump's interview with Woodward.

So Trump being a liar and an idiot is not the problem. It's Graham's fault for letting Trump open his trap.

[DMX7]

Now Tucker Carlson is blaming Lindsey Graham for setting up Trump's interview with Woodward.

So Trump being a liar and an idiot is not the problem. It's Graham's fault for letting Trump open his trap.

I think Tucker says this because he thinks the people who watch his show are dumb enough to buy it, but I maybe giving him too much credit. He may be truly that dumb and believe it himself.

[ChumpDumper]

You're a huge Trump fan, derp.Why are you trying to make me you, derp?

:lol name and all

[Will Hunting]

Now Tucker Carlson is blaming Lindsey Graham for setting up Trump's interview with Woodward.

So Trump being a liar and an idiot is not the problem. It's Graham's fault for letting Trump open his trap.
Fine with me, get all of the uneducated whites in SC pissed at Graham for Election Day.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Tucker says this because he thinks the people who watch his show are dumb enough to buy it, but I maybe giving him too much credit. He may be truly that dumb and believe it himself.If it hurts Lady G's reelection chances....

https://media.tenor.com/images/7581d2e1bed764a93f8d584e7df71589/tenor.gif

[Will Hunting]

If it hurts Lady G's reelection chances....

https://media.tenor.com/images/7581d2e1bed764a93f8d584e7df71589/tenor.gif
Trumptards like Cucker are so enraged about Dear Leader looking bad in an interview they don’t see how blaming a Republican Senator up for re-election is stupid when they’re truing to deflect blame.

[Warlord23]

I think Tucker says this because he thinks the people who watch his show are dumb enough to buy it, but I maybe giving him too much credit. He may be truly that dumb and believe it himself.

I agree. Tucker must think his audience is totally brain-dead. He's basically implying that it's a given that Trump is stupid, so for Graham to let him do an interview is sabotage

[Will Hunting]

Tucker must think his audience is totally brain-dead.
He's not wrong.

[Spurminator]

The goods

1304189156394901504

Actually kind of hate this video because all it does is spread his garbage further.

[Warlord23]

Fine with me, get all of the uneducated whites in SC pissed at Graham for Election Day.

Much as I would love that outcome, I just don't see how the Democrats win that race

[Spurtacular]

Why are you trying to make me you, derp?

:lol name and all

I don't take any credit (blame) for you, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't take any credit (blame) for you, derp.derp folds

Keep trying to make me you, derp. It'll never work.

I don't fold like you.:lol

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

Keep trying to make me you, derp. It'll never work.

I don't fold like you.:lol

You make yourself derp, derp.

It is what it is.

[ChumpDumper]

You make yourself, derp.

It is what it is.:lmao why does being called derp hurt you so much that you try to call others derp?

[Spurtacular]

:lmao why does being called derp hurt you so much that you try to call others derp?

:lmao why does being called derp hurt you so much that you try to call others derp?

[Will Hunting]

Much as I would love that outcome, I just don't see how the Democrats win that race
All the polling in August has Harrison within 3 points.

It's definitely a long shot, but one way it could happen is if Fox News turns on Repressed Lindsey.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao why does being called derp hurt you so much that you try to call others derp?You're derp.

It's your nickname.

Many people here call you derp.

And it kills you.:lol

[Spurtacular]

Actually kind of hate this video because all it does is spread his garbage further.

:lmao Sadbert triggered by Trump calling out the rioters.

[Spurtacular]

You're derp.

It's your nickname.

Many people here call you derp.

And it kills you.:lol

:cry Safety in derps :cry

:lolK, derp

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Safety in derps :cry

:lolK:lol your enemies list.

:lolK

Post more about me to prove I don't bother you and you don't want to waste your time, derp.

[diego]

I agree. Tucker must think his audience is totally brain-dead. He's basically implying that it's a given that Trump is stupid, so for Graham to let him do an interview is sabotage

oh he absolutely thinks his audience is stupid, its a hallmark of conmen and republicans, trump and tucker are giving each other fives in the overlap..

I cant stand VOX but the interview the video is based on is all you need to hear


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNineSEoxjQ

[Reck]

Spurtacular on ignore, still gets all your mental square footage rent free :lol

It’s because the ignore function here is retarded. You still get notifications from ignored posters.

[clambake]

Derp broken

[Bogie]

Fine with me, get all of the uneducated whites in SC pissed at Graham for Election Day.

graham has carried a lot of water for Trump since he suddenly changed his opinions of him.

South Carolinians are still loyal to graham, and the letter in front of his name. It would take a lot for Trump to turn his minions on him, regardless of his inability to be loyal to anyone but himself

[FrostKing]

In a nation of scoundrels, I choose Trump.

[clambake]

In a nation of scoundrels, I choose Trump.

Cool. Take him to Poland

[FrostKing]

Cool. Take him to Poland
Na. Enjoying my privilege.

[spurraider21]

Na. Enjoying my privilege.
thought you already moved to poland?

[hater]

Dont remember any democrats ringing d alarm bells about it being airborne, etc tbqh

All are guilty of lying to us and killing us

[Will Hunting]

Dont remember any democrats ringing d alarm bells about it being airborne, etc tbqh

All are guilty of lying to us and killing us
“The Democrats” didn’t have the intelligence reports that Trump had about it being airborne, but keep falsely equating the two so you can justify voting for Trump again since that’s clearly what you’re doing.

[hater]

“The Democrats” didn’t have the intelligence reports that Trump had about it being airborne, but keep falsely equating the two so you can justify voting for Trump again since that’s clearly what you’re doing.

:lmao intelligence reports :lol

I already been saying it was airborne since before the woodchuck interviews :lol

"Intelligence" on something that a mere twitter search and basic research would obviously display

Come on n8ga

[Will Hunting]

:lmao intelligence reports :lol

I already been saying it was airborne since before the woodchuck interviews :lol

"Intelligence" on something that a mere twitter search and basic research would obviously display

Come on n8ga
Another Trump supporting Spurstalk doctor giving his expert medical opinion.

[Reck]

Another Trump supporting Spurstalk doctor giving his expert medical opinion.

Called it.

[hater]

Here is my "intelligence" which I have been posting in the corona thread:

JANUARY 26, 2020

yeah so
far compared to a flu this is like 3 times worse so compare to a strong flu that will throw you down in bed for 4-5 days minimum

and its way way more contagious

and this is so far....




https://twitter.com/dymitrpl/status/1221641709395808256?s=21


JANUARY 27, 2020:


if containment is not possible, 60-90% of world population will get this

I give containment probability a 50% chance

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1221139531736539136?s=21




ppl are missing the point

even at this current state the virus would probably be equivalent of a massive flu on a healthy individual. if contagion is not controlled the toll on our medical services and thus other services (food, transport, security, garbage) would be great

scarcity of food and all other problems associated with this not to mention economic

so no, most likely this flu wont kill you but if it becomes pandemic you will suffer 100% sure of this

we must hope it will be controlled. next few days will be key

travel needs to be shut down and WHO needs to call this what it is a global emergency


u still missing the point ma niga

its not about the flu or a vaccine

if millions get infected the mass panic and forced quarantines/evacuations will send the world to an economic, food and security crisis

ppl forget how fragile our society is.

[Bogie]

Here is my "intelligence" which I have been posting in the corona thread:

JANUARY 26, 2020


look how hard you’re trying to deflect from your anti American agenda.

called it

[hater]

JANUARY 28, 2020:


it can be transmitted thru contact!!

gawd lard

JANUARY 31, 2020:


protection does not work. the shitty surgical masks most of teh people use are useless

only containments is the quarantines and closing borders which they are doing a good iob about it tbqh

yes containment is possible and its the only shot

until a vaccine is developed which is at least 4-5 months away

its 50-50 at the moment tbqh

remember this is 20 times stronger than a common cold. imagine getting struck with that and its more contagious as well

[Reck]

Protection doesn’t work. Lol hater still wrong

[hater]

Protection doesn’t work. Lol hater still wrong

I said surgicalnmasks nancy. And NO surgical masks dont p4otect the wearer. Called it :tu

[Will Hunting]

Nothing in those posts mentions airborne transmission.

Swing and miss.

[hater]

MARCH 1, 2020:


oops actually he was 34 :wow

https://twitter.com/nydailynews/status/1225461087669301253?s=21


coming to the conclusion our planet has just acquired a flu on steroids (30 times stronger) vaccines will probably work as well as regular flu vaccines (change yearly and not work on new strains)

this is here to stay and we all will get it sooner or later. the weak will die and strong will survive.

welcome to a new world folks

only question is will our society survive the pressure of this new flu or will it break down into chaos?

MARCH 5, 2020:


oops actually he was 34 :wow

https://twitter.com/nydailynews/status/1225461087669301253?s=21


the dont wear masks BS is done by governments to prevent shortage of masks for their police/medical force

of course you are better off wearing a mask :lol especially the N95

I have only a handful of those and will wear it if infection reaches Seattle levels in my area

[hater]

Damn my thread is legendary :wow

I guess I was receiving "intelligence" from CIA :lol

[hater]

Damn I even called Faucis lie on March 5 :wow

God damn :wow

[Will Hunting]

Damn my thread is legendary :wow

I guess I was receiving "intelligence" from CIA :lol
Still haven't shown any posts specifically mentioning this being airborne.

Your premise that the amorphous "Democrats" had a duty to prepare Murica for a pandemic equal to the president's duty is also false, but like I said before, all you're doing is trying to justify why you're voting for Trump again after he killed 200k Americans.

[hater]

Still haven't shown any posts specifically mentioning this being airborne.

Your premise that the amorphous "Democrats" had a duty to prepare Murica for a pandemic equal to the president's duty is also false, but like I said before, all you're doing is trying to justify why you're voting for Trump again after he killed 200k Americans.

The flu is airborne. We knew this was a flu from page 1. My 1st post from that thread shows a team w hazmats wheeling a guy in a bubble.

U kidding right n8g?

[Splits]

The flu is airborne. We knew this was a flu from page 1. My 1st post from that thread shows a team w hazmats wheeling a guy in a bubble.

U kidding right n8g?


it can be transmitted thru contact!!

gawd lard

So you specifically called out transmission through contact but "you knew" it was airborne without calling it out.

Ok.

[hater]

So you specifically called out transmission through contact but "you knew" it was airborne without calling it out.

Ok.

Yup :tu

Nothing wrong with pointing out other ways of transmission.

The real gotcha question and big deal was asymptomatic transmission. If we have proof government or president intentionally hid this then this is huge.

Havent heard the tapes, is this the case?

[Splits]

April 14:


so?? we dont know what the fuck they did before. they all could have been blowing the priest in the back before

we are talking about scientific tests done in a lab vs anecdotes

come on

so far no evidence this thing is airborne

[ChumpDumper]

:lol hater's goalpost

[hater]

Theres airborne through droplets. Like flu, coronavirus.

And living airborne.

Coronavirus does not live airborne.

At least have not seen any conclusive evidence. Ive seen some reports but inconclusive


We are talking about airborne in droplets. We knew this from page 1 :tu

[pgardn]

Theres airborne through droplets. Like flu, coronavirus.

And living airborne.

Corona virus does not live airborne.

At least have not seen any conclusive evidence. Ive seen some reports but inconclusive


We are talking about airborne in droplets. We knew this from page 1 :tu

You are on full desperation mode now so your claims become easy targets.

WTF does the bolded even mean?

it is suggested you stop in the shallow water.

[ChumpDumper]

hater, it's ok you didn't know. :tu

[Will Hunting]

April 14:
:lmao

[hater]

Um coronavirus like flu does not live airborne without droplets. Sorry to break it to yall :lol

[Will Hunting]

Um coronavirus like flu does not live airborne without droplets. Sorry to break it to yall :lol
So is it airborne or not? Back in February your boy Trump said it was.

[pgardn]

Um coronavirus like flu does not live airborne without droplets. Sorry to break it to yall :lol

Again what the fuck does this mean?

Specifically explain LIVE.
You know what I am asking, so quit being a disingenuous Trumpster.

[pgardn]

So is it airborne or not? Back in February your boy Trump said it was.

absolutely it is transmitted by droplets.
hater is playing games with the word LIVE.

[Spurminator]

"Intelligence" on something that a mere twitter search and basic research would obviously display

:lmao Yes let's address pandemics based on what we read on Twitter. Good plan.

Does your doctor use WedMD?

[Will Hunting]

absolutely it is transmitted by droplets.
hater is playing games with the word LIVE.
Ma nig Splits pointed out that hater never called it that COVID-19 was airborne and now hater's trying to save face by splitting hairs however he can :lol

[hater]

So is it airborne or not? Back in February your boy Trump said it was.

He probably doesnt know the difference. He didnt know how vaccine works :lol

[hater]

:lmao Yes let's address pandemics based on what we read on Twitter. Good plan.

Does your doctor use WedMD?

Yeah lets wait for nanny state to tell us how to protect ourselves :lmao

[Will Hunting]

He probably doesnt know the difference. He didnt know how vaccine works :lol
In the Woodward tapes he seemed to understand the different between contact transmission and airborne transmission pretty clearly.

[hater]

Ma nig Splits pointed out that hater never called it that COVID-19 was airborne and now hater's trying to save face by splitting hairs however he can :lol

my april post was referring to virus living in the air on its own. Check d history

[hater]

In the Woodward tapes he seemed to understand the different between contact transmission and airborne transmission pretty clearly.

I really doubt he can tell difference between airborne droplets and not. Hes a stupid fuck

He thought vaccines are given to sick ppl so they feel better :lol

[Reck]

In the Woodward tapes he seemed to understand the different between contact transmission and airborne transmission pretty clearly.

Dude definitely knew what he was talking about for once. He even mentioned what percentage effects who and what.

A rarity from Trump. He must've gotten the intel that very day because he wasn't his incoherent self like he usually is.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah lets wait for nanny state to tell us how to protect ourselves :lmao
Yeah you've gone full Trumptard, referring to a competent government response to a pandemic as the "nanny state" :lol

If New Zealand and Germany have "nanny state" governments because they protect people from a pandemic, give me the nanny state over Trump's government.

[hater]

Yeah you've gone full Trumptard, referring to a competent government response to a pandemic as the "nanny state" :lol

If New Zealand and Germany have "nanny state" governments because they protect people from a pandemic, give me the nanny state over Trump's government.

Every government is a nanny state if they have to tell you how to protect yourself from a virus :lol

Especially since the invention of the internet.

Governments will first care about staying in power, keeping their rich rich, and then dead last is worrying about their common citizens well being.

Its always been like this and always will be like this


Always remember the government will take care just enough of its citizens to prevent a revolution. But nothing more. If thousands die so be 8t

[hater]

Now are there bad governments and worse governments? Sure.

We are way at the back of the pack :lol 200k did not need to die. But as I said only way to prevent that is do what the chinese did

[Will Hunting]

Every government is a nanny state if they have to tell you how to protect yourself from a virus :lol

Especially since the invention of the internet.

Governments will first care about staying in power, keeping their rich rich, and then dead last is worrying about their common citizens well being.

Its always been like this and always will be like this


Always remember the government will take care just enough of its citizens to prevent a revolution. But nothing more. If thousands die so be 8t
It's always how the US government will be when retards keep voting for Trump :tu

Your description of how governments responded to COVID-19 doesn't fit with how governments in the rest of the modern world responded to it.

You've now entered the "Doesn't really matter if I support Trump because both parties are equally bad and it's always going to be like this" part of Trumperism.

[Will Hunting]

Now are there bad governments and worse governments? Sure.

We are way at the back of the pack :lol 200k did not need to die. But as I said only way to prevent that is do what the chinese did
or South Korea
or Germany
or Canada
or Japan
or New Zealand
or Australia
or Norway

Shall I continue?

[Spurtacular]

Now are there bad governments and worse governments? Sure.

We are way at the back of the pack :lol 200k did not need to die. But as I said only way to prevent that is do what the chinese did

People have to die every day. Bloated government could only afford 200k fake attributions. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

People have to die every day. Govt. is chintzy and only paid for 200k fake attributions. :lmaoExplain how your payment conspiracy theory works.

[Spurtacular]

Explain how your payment conspiracy theory works.

Go watch the video, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

Go watch the video, derp.derp folds

Your nickname is derp.

[hater]

or South Korea
or Germany
or Canada
or Japan
or New Zealand
or Australia
or Norway

Shall I continue?

Yup theres bad Them

And worse Us :lol

[hater]

It's always how the US government will be when retards keep voting for Trump.

Do you really think the government gave a shit about you before Trump??

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

Your nickname is derp.

I take no responsibility for your willful ignorance, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

I take no responsibility for your willful ignorance, derp.I accept your permanent surrender, derp.

You can't support your claim. You never can.

All you can do is cry and cry and cry.

And comfort yourself with buzzwords.

Your nickname is derp.

[Will Hunting]

Do you really think the government gave a shit about you before Trump??
No, but Trump took it to a new level. You're refusing to acknowledge the obvious differences between Trump and your typical establishment politicians. They both suck but Trump is much worse.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao How are Trump supporters denying that he's the worst president in American history?

[hater]

No, but Trump took it to a new level. You're refusing to acknowledge the obvious differences between Trump and your typical establishment politicians. They both suck but Trump is much worse.

And youre refusing to acknowledge their obvious similarities. They all work for their billionaire masters. And ultimately will do their bidding.

If the masters say 100k or 200k deaths are acceptable. So be it.

Do you really think Mike Pence will do any better? :lmao :lmao

[Will Hunting]

And youre refusing to acknowledge their obvious similarities. They all work for their billionaire masters. And ultimately will do their bidding.

If the masters say 100k or 200k deaths are acceptable. So be it.
I literally just said "they both suck" pretty sure that's acknowledging their similarities.

Glad that you're not denying the fact you're ignoring their differences though.

[Will Hunting]

Do you really think Mike Pence will do any better? :lmao :lmao
Re this edit: no, I don't, Mike Penis is from the same political party that's focused on rendering the government as useless as possible so it can convince Americans that the government is the problem.

I think you know that I'm not saying Penis is better but you're resorting to strawman arguments because you have no good faith argument to make for why you're voting for Trump.

I think Biden is absolutely better. Nowhere near as much as I'd like him to be, but much better than Trump.

[hater]

Re this edit: no, I don't, Mike Penis is from the same political party that's focused on rendering the government as useless as possible so it can convince Americans that the government is the problem.

I think you know that I'm not saying Penis is better but you're resorting to strawman arguments because you have no good faith argument to make for why you're voting for Trump.

I think Biden is absolutely better. Nowhere near as much as I'd like him to be, but much better than Trump.

Inrespect you opinion. I dont see any area where Biden is clearly better as he can barely put 2 sentences together.

But I respect that :tu

[Spurtacular]

https://media.mypillow.com/media/contentmanager/content/mike-desktop.png

[Will Hunting]

Inrespect you opinion. I dont see any area where Biden is clearly better as he can barely put 2 sentences together.

But I respect that :tu
I'll explain why I think he's better (non-exhaustive list, but most demonstrable):

- He wants to reverse most Trump's tax cuts. Doesn't go nearly far enough to correct how flawed our tax code is, but a 28% corporate tax rate is 33% higher than 21% corporate tax rate (before any Trumptard wants to correct me and say hurr durr no it's 7% higher, (28-21)/21 = 33%). Trump's tax cuts did nothing but add to the deficit and didn't create any jobs.

- He wants to follow Bernie's suggestion and raise the cap gains tax rate to the ordinary income tax rate. There's no disputing that this is something billionaires will hate, the bullshit cap gains tax rate is how they're able to pay lower taxes than working class Americans.

- Adding a public option to Obamacare brings a step closer to single payer healthcare and it takes a lot of power employers have over employees away. I think you'll see millions of people switch to the public option which will force private insurance & private providers to reduce costs. Again, doesn't go far enough, but it's much better than Trump wanting to repeal Obamacare and allow insurance companies to fuck people over more than they ever did before.

Those are tangible differences you can't glibly write off.

[Spurtacular]

Re this edit: no, I don't, Mike Penis is from the same political party that's focused on rendering the government as useless as possible so it can convince Americans that the government is the problem.

I think you know that I'm not saying Penis is better but you're resorting to strawman arguments because you have no good faith argument to make for why you're voting for Trump.

I think Biden is absolutely better. Nowhere near as much as I'd like him to be, but much better than Trump.

Pep talk.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol derp can't say why he's voting for Trump.

[Splits]

:lol derp can't say why he's voting for Trump.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61EMCGL1eCL.jpg

[Ef-man]

:lol derp can't say why he's voting for Trump.

Two bigly things, people tell me, good people have said repeatedly:
Derp loves being dominated by alpha males like trump (#DerpDreamingAlphaMales), and
The derp is a big “golden shower” fan, so he associates strongly with trump (#ThatAintRainComingDownOnDerp) .

[Will Hunting]

Probably the most important thing you to consider hater, as spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) has keenly pointed out, re-electing Trump isn't going to bring us any closer to a candidate like Sanders and AOC. It'll only shift the country further to the right and make a progressive Democratic party more unachievable.

Sanders did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 despite having more name recognition, more money and resources, and more friendly superdelegate rules than 4 years ago. Some of that was because of Hillary being a bad candidate but a lot of it was because of how scared Democrats were of Trump getting re-elected so they were focused on nominating someone who was "electable." If we get another 4 years of Trump, the hysteria over finding someone "electable" to make sure the Democrats win will be even worse in 2024. Any progressive candidate won't have a prayer of winning the primary, every commentator on MSNBC will be saying Mitt Romney should run as a Democrat.

Meanwhile, Democrats will be more likely to pick a left wing primary challenger in 2024 if Biden gets elected with both houses of congress and settles on half-assed stimulus and healthcare solutions. Sanders went from being a noname socialist in Vermont to winning over 40% of the primary vote in 2016 because a lot of primary voters were of the opinion that yeah Obama was better than the Republicans are but I want a candidate who's going to seek meaningful reform over another Democrat who will just maintain the status quo.

[hater]

Probably the most important thing you to consider hater, as spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) has keenly pointed out, re-electing Trump isn't going to bring us any closer to a candidate like Sanders and AOC. It'll only shift the country further to the right and make a progressive Democratic party more unachievable.

Sanders did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 despite having more name recognition, more money and resources, and more friendly superdelegate rules than 4 years ago. Some of that was because of Hillary being a bad candidate but a lot of it was because of how scared Democrats were of Trump getting re-elected so they were focused on nominating someone who was "electable." If we get another 4 years of Trump, the hysteria over finding someone "electable" to make sure the Democrats win will be even worse in 2024. Any progressive candidate won't have a prayer of winning the primary, every commentator on MSNBC will be saying Mitt Romney should run as a Democrat.

Meanwhile, Democrats will be more likely to pick a left wing primary challenger in 2024 if Biden gets elected with both houses of congress and settles on half-assed stimulus and healthcare solutions. Sanders went from being a noname socialist in Vermont to winning over 40% of the primary vote in 2016 because a lot of primary voters were of the opinion that yeah Obama was better than the Republicans are but I want a candidate who's going to seek meaningful reform over another Democrat who will just maintain the status quo.

Disagree with this premise. US is a rightwing state. Their establishment "lefties" are right wing. A Biden win means nothing for 2024. It actually increases chances of a republican winning.

Look what happened after 8 years of Obama, we got Trump.

The only chance USA has of ever having a true left wing is for a huge revolution (doesnt have to involve violence) in their "democratic" party that will install true lefties at the helm.

If Trump wins 2020 that revolution will be closer.

[Bogie]

Yeah lets wait for nanny state to tell us how to protect ourselves :lmao


wow you’re getting shit on from many different directions. Your passive aggressive anti American schtick is failing you here

called it.

[hater]

Probably the most important thing you to consider hater, as spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) has keenly pointed out, re-electing Trump isn't going to bring us any closer to a candidate like Sanders and AOC. It'll only shift the country further to the right and make a progressive Democratic party more unachievable.

Sanders did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 despite having more name recognition, more money and resources, and more friendly superdelegate rules than 4 years ago. Some of that was because of Hillary being a bad candidate but a lot of it was because of how scared Democrats were of Trump getting re-elected so they were focused on nominating someone who was "electable." If we get another 4 years of Trump, the hysteria over finding someone "electable" to make sure the Democrats win will be even worse in 2024. Any progressive candidate won't have a prayer of winning the primary, every commentator on MSNBC will be saying Mitt Romney should run as a Democrat.

Meanwhile, Democrats will be more likely to pick a left wing primary challenger in 2024 if Biden gets elected with both houses of congress and settles on half-assed stimulus and healthcare solutions. Sanders went from being a noname socialist in Vermont to winning over 40% of the primary vote in 2016 because a lot of primary voters were of the opinion that yeah Obama was better than the Republicans are but I want a candidate who's going to seek meaningful reform over another Democrat who will just maintain the status quo.

https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1304437046551875584?s=19

Biden is running a campaign on promising things he will not do.

He will not do for me

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1304437046551875584?s=19

Biden is running a campaign on promising things he will not do.

He will not do for meWhy will Trump do for you?

[hater]

What does Trump do for you?

Not much. Im not voting for him.

But hopefully another epic defeat will bring a revolution to democrats (long shot)

[ChumpDumper]

Not much. Im not voting for him.:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rol lin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Will Hunting]

Disagree with this premise. US is a rightwing state. Their establishment "lefties" are right wing. A Biden win means nothing for 2024. It actually increases chances of a republican winning.

Look what happened after 8 years of Obama, we got Trump.

The only chance USA has of ever having a true left wing is for a huge revolution (doesnt have to involve violence) in their "democratic" party that will install true lefties at the helm.

If Trump wins 2020 that revolution will be closer.
How will it be closer? After 4 years of Trump, all that's happened within the Democratic Party is the establishment having a larger stranglehold on power and people being less willing to nominate a progressive candidate. The Democratic Party moved to the left while Obama was president (not a chance Bernie gets 40+% of the primary vote in 2008) while it's moved to the right under Trump's presidency. Take a look at the primary, Bernie lost largely because all of the undecided voters who swung towards Biden at the last minute due to fear over Trump winning again.

Our government's setup basically makes it so we're tethered to the status quo and quick, significant changes to the status quo are virtually impossible (which only gets worse if RBG gets replaced by another conservative judge who looks for reasons to strike progressive policy). Under Biden, the status quo shifts to the left from where it is now. Under 4 more years of Trump, the status quo shifts violently further right and the Democratic Party follows it to the right like it always has.

[ElNono]

Wasn't hater going to vote for Joe until he picked Kamala? Or was this just another Karrin/Snakeboy "Biden is my guy but..." trumptard excuse :lol

[Splits]

Not much. Im not voting for him.

But hopefully another epic defeat will bring a revolution to democrats (long shot)

So you're not voting for him but you are thinking "hopefully" he will win?

Is that like airborne but not living airborne?

[johnsmith]

:lmao How are Trump supporters denying that he's the worst president in American history?

I’m not sure what the answer is, but I’m positive that In two weeks, no one will be taking about this anymore because Americans have the attention spans of a house fly....I think Trump could take a dump during a press conference and we’d still end up voting 50/50 come November.

[Splits]

Wasn't hater going to vote for Joe until he picked Kamala? Or was this just another Karrin/Snakeboy "Biden is my guy but..." trumptard excuse :lol

Don't worry, there's 7 weeks left. That's enough time for at least 14 more switches on his "calls" and his vote. All bases will be covered.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1304437046551875584?s=19

Biden is running a campaign on promising things he will not do.

He will not do for me
So Biden isn't left leaning enough for you... and the solution is to elect somebody further to the right of Biden? :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Biden is running a campaign on promising things he will not do.

Probably, which is my point. After 4 years of Biden passing shitty legislation in the name of "bipartisan compromise" Democratic primary voters will be more fed up with the establishment and more receptive to the idea that we need a more left wing candidate. If Trump wins, Pelosi and Schumer will continue to be able to cry :cry well it's Trump's fault not ours :cry.

Nothing hurts the establishment Democrats more than when they have control of the White House and both houses of Congress and fail to do anything with it (my theory has always been that they didn't mind getting shellacked in the 2010 midterms since it gave them an excuse to keep the status quo), but give them Republicans who they can blame shit on and Democratic primary voters see them in a much better light.

I get what you're saying, the idea that the Democratic Party losing to Trump AGAIN will force it to get blown up seems like the logical thought, but in a 2 party system major parties don't get blown up. The DNC will make more superficial changes to appear welcoming towards progressives the way it did 4 years ago but come primary time it'll run Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney because they're "electable".

[Reck]

Probably the most important thing you to consider hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609), as spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) has keenly pointed out, re-electing Trump isn't going to bring us any closer to a candidate like Sanders and AOC. It'll only shift the country further to the right and make a progressive Democratic party more unachievable.

Sanders did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 despite having more name recognition, more money and resources, and more friendly superdelegate rules than 4 years ago. Some of that was because of Hillary being a bad candidate but a lot of it was because of how scared Democrats were of Trump getting re-elected so they were focused on nominating someone who was "electable." If we get another 4 years of Trump, the hysteria over finding someone "electable" to make sure the Democrats win will be even worse in 2024. Any progressive candidate won't have a prayer of winning the primary, every commentator on MSNBC will be saying Mitt Romney should run as a Democrat.

Meanwhile, Democrats will be more likely to pick a left wing primary challenger in 2024 if Biden gets elected with both houses of congress and settles on half-assed stimulus and healthcare solutions. Sanders went from being a noname socialist in Vermont to winning over 40% of the primary vote in 2016 because a lot of primary voters were of the opinion that yeah Obama was better than the Republicans are but I want a candidate who's going to seek meaningful reform over another Democrat who will just maintain the status quo.

Nina Turner is thinking of running in 2024.

Dont get the appeal. She’s never won anything on merit. Got her Ohio state senate seat because it was inherited.

She’s the McSally of the left but now wants to run for president. Oof

[Will Hunting]

Nina Turner is thinking of running in 2024.

Dont get the appeal. She’s never won anything on merit. Got her Ohio state senate seat because it was inherited.

She’s the McSally of the left but now wants to run for president. Oof
She has no chance, I'm not even sure why that's a story.

Andrew Yang should be the candidate progressives rally around in 2024. He has widespread name recognition now as the UBI candidate and he's popular. I also see him energizing more millennial and zoomer voters than Sanders did - one of the big flaws to Sanders is that his ideas were appealing to millennials but he didn't have the personality/"coolness" that appeals to less engaged millennials the way Obama did.

AOC might technically be eligible to run but I'd like to see her win an election for senate/governor before she runs for president.

[Splits]

She has no chance, I'm not even sure why that's a story.

Andrew Yang should be the candidate progressives rally around in 2024. He has widespread name recognition now as the UBI candidate and he's popular. I also see him energizing more millennial and zoomer voters than Sanders did - one of the big flaws to Sanders is that his ideas were appealing to millennials but he didn't have the personality/"coolness" that appeals to less engaged millennials the way Obama did.

AOC might technically be eligible to run but I'd like to see her win an election for senate/governor before she runs for president.

Nope. AOC is RGB replacement

[Reck]

AOC might technically be eligible to run but I'd like to see her win an election for senate/governor before she runs for president.

100% Agreed.

She should keep cultivating and consolidating recognization and power then make her run. A premature presidential run could be lethal at this stage in her career because the chances of winning are very very low. We know what happens to people who run and fail.

[DarrinS]

AOC might technically be eligible to run but I'd like to see her win an election for senate/governor before she runs for president.


Nope. AOC is RGB replacement

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Sanders did worse in 2020 than he did in 2016 despite having more name recognition, more money and resources, and more friendly superdelegate rules than 4 years ago. Some of that was because of Hillary being a bad candidate but a lot of it was because of how scared Democrats were of Trump getting re-elected so they were focused on nominating someone who was "electable." If we get another 4 years of Trump, the hysteria over finding someone "electable" to make sure the Democrats win will be even worse in 2024. Any progressive candidate won't have a prayer of winning the primary, every commentator on MSNBC will be saying Mitt Romney should run as a Democrat.

The product of article after article saying how evil trump is instead of extolling the virtues of progressivism. You got played, sucka.

[Will Hunting]

Nope. AOC is RGB replacement
She doesn't even have a law degree, that's not happening. They're going to need a safer RBG replacement since they'll only have 51-52 senators tops (assuming they even have a majority) with some of them in red states. It's political suicide for senators like Manchin or Tester if they vote to confirm someone like AOC.

[Will Hunting]

We know what happens to people who run and fail.
Are you referring to this guy :lol

https://www.texasobserver.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Beto_ORourke_Official_portrait_113th_Congress-360x541.jpg

[Will Hunting]

:lmao
The betting sites have her as the favorite to win the 2024 primary, so not sure what's so funny.

[Spurminator]

:lmao Guy who voted for Reality TV president laughing at the idea of any President who can successfully complete a coherent sentence related to politics.

[hater]

My dream scenario:
- Dump wins 2020 and all hell breaks lose
- US is able to keep government functioning but Democratic party has a revolution
- they blow it up and install a new regime in DNC led by the Squad
- uSA finally gets a left wing party
- somehow the squad makes amends with likes of Tulsi and join forces
- 2024, ma niga AOC is installed as POTUS, Tulsi as VP (or sec of state)

[Spurminator]

Yeah lets wait for nanny state to tell us how to protect ourselves :lmao

Sounds like something you'd hear on Twitter.

:lmao TwitterMD

[koriwhat]

My dream scenario:
- Dump wins 2020 and all hell breaks lose
- US is able to keep government functioning but Democratic party has a revolution
- they blow it up and install a new regime in DNC led by the Squad
- uSA finally gets a left wing party
- somehow the squad makes amends with likes of Tulsi and join forces
- 2024, ma niga AOC is installed as POTUS, Tulsi as VP (or sec of state)

loser mentality right there.

[boutons_deux]

Look At The Big Sick Brain on Don!

https://www.facebook.com/ridinwithbiden2020/videos/1218562638543021

[hater]

Sounds like something you'd hear on Twitter.

:lmao TwitterMD

Sounds like something youd hear from a brainwashed lemming tbqh

[Spurminator]

My dream scenario:
- Dump wins 2020 and all hell breaks lose
- US is able to keep government functioning but Democratic party has a revolution
- they blow it up and install a new regime in DNC led by the Squad
- uSA finally gets a left wing party
- somehow the squad makes amends with likes of Tulsi and join forces
- 2024, ma niga AOC is installed as POTUS, Tulsi as VP (or sec of state)

Pipe dream.

2020 GOP win brings worse gerrymandering, worse erosion of voting rights, more felonies for drug crimes leading to fewer voters, fewer polling places in urban areas, and an even more conservative Democrat candidate against a Trump clone.

[Spurminator]

Sounds like something youd hear from a brainwashed lemming tbqh

"I think it's stupid to take medical advice from Twitter"

"yOU'rE a bRaiNwASheD LemMiNg"

[hater]

Pipe dream.

2020 GOP win brings worse gerrymandering, worse erosion of voting rights, more felonies for drug crimes leading to fewer voters, fewer polling places in urban areas, and an even more conservative Democrat candidate against a Trump clone.

And more chance of revolutionary change.

Biden brings... nothing. Same old reheated leftovers

[hater]

"I think it's stupid to take medical advice from Twitter"

"yOU'rE a bRaiNwASheD LemMiNg"

Medical advice. Sure nancy thats what hapened

[Splits]

She doesn't even have a law degree, that's not happening. They're going to need a safer RBG replacement since they'll only have 51-52 senators tops (assuming they even have a majority) with some of them in red states. It's political suicide for senators like Manchin or Tester if they vote to confirm someone like AOC.

this is a bitch approach. you take their governing philosophy, "Triggered", and throw it back twice as hard.

[Splits]

"oh, the nation is divided let's bring us all back to a happy place, united, bi-partisan, during the retirement of RBG. I hereby re-nominate Merrick Garland "

fucking puke

[Will Hunting]

Pipe dream.

2020 GOP win brings worse gerrymandering, worse erosion of voting rights, more felonies for drug crimes leading to fewer voters, fewer polling places in urban areas, and an even more conservative Democrat candidate against a Trump clone.
Fortunately the 2018 midterms made it so gerrymandering this time around can't be as bad as 10 years ago because of the governor seat Dems control. Would have been fucking huge to pick up the gubernatorial control in Georgia and Florida but at least we won't have gerrymandering in Michigan, Pennsylvania, or New Jersey.

Another example of Democrats needing to get more creative - they should have made sure every state that allows ballot initiatives had an independent redistricting initiative on the ballot in 2018. All the states that had the initiative passed them overwhelmingly. The two major examples I can think of are Wisconsin and Florida where they should have a ballot initiative like this on the ballot next time.

[Reck]

"oh, the nation is divided let's bring us all back to a happy place, united, bi-partisan, during the retirement of RBG. I hereby re-nominate Merrick Garland "

fucking puke

Why would any sane person put an unqualified person who has no clue about the law?

[Spurminator]

And more chance of revolutionary change.

By what means? Violent overthrow?

:lmao Even bigger pipe dream. You're delusional.


Biden brings... nothing. Same old reheated leftovers

Better than Reality TV Fascist.

[Will Hunting]

"oh, the nation is divided let's bring us all back to a happy place, united, bi-partisan, during the retirement of RBG. I hereby re-nominate Merrick Garland "

fucking puke
Definitely don't want Garland :lol, but you don't need someone like AOC on the court. AOC is better served as a politician. You more or less muzzle her as a SCOTUS judge.

[Splits]

Why would any sane person put an unqualified person who has no clue about the law?

One (establishment) vote for Garland

[Splits]

Definitely don't want Garland :lol, but you don't need someone like AOC on the court. AOC is better served as a politician. You more or less muzzle her as a SCOTUS judge.

What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. Fuck norms. She can read her opinions in a fucking bikini and livestream it on IG

[Reck]

One (establishment) vote for Garland

He knows the law at a granular level so yes, if it comes to someone with zero knowledge to someone who actually does, the answer is obvious.

[Spurminator]

this is a bitch approach. you take their governing philosophy, "Triggered", and throw it back twice as hard.

Fair or not, this approach doesn't work for Democrats the way it works for Republicans. It's a choice between feeling good and winning.

[Spurminator]

What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. Fuck norms. She can read her opinions in a fucking bikini and livestream it on IG

If we're going to fuck norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.

[Splits]

He knows the law at a granular level so yes, if it comes to someone with zero knowledge to someone who actually does, the answer is obvious.

2016 thinking/#stillwithher

[Will Hunting]

What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. Fuck norms. She can read her opinions in a fucking bikini and livestream it on IG
It's not about norms, I agree about saying fuck norms, it's about deploying resources where they have the largest impact. AOC doesn't have any impact as a SCOTUS justice, she's just another RBG or Elena Kagan. Much more influential as popular congresswoman who's keeping Pelosi honest or at least trying to.

Regarding what medieval shit we should do the court, I'm not sure what requires a simple majority vs. what requires a constitutional amendment, but they should pack the courts as much as possible. Once McConnell blocked Garland all norms went out the window and he invited the Dems to play dirty. I just don't think nominating AOC is a productive way to play dirty. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't accomplish anything. Adding 2 more SCOTUS judges on the other hand does.

[Splits]

If we're going to fuck norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.

I'm not sure that's possible with a simple majority. But thanks to Turtle you can ram through SC justices with 50+vp

[Splits]

Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't accomplish anything.

Yes it does. It triggers them for 40 years and reminds them she's Trump's child. Without him, she wouldn't be there. So like, uh, don't elect another Trump.

[Reck]

2016 thinking/#stillwithher

This is your white flag.

You appear to have no real reasoning behind your asinine take besides LET'S OWN THE LIBS....UMM I MEAN REPUBLICANS.

Just doesn't have the same ring to it. Sorry.

[pgardn]

my april post was referring to virus living in the air on its own. Check d history

Once again, what does the bolded mean to you?
You know that I know the game you are trying to play here.
Its not gonna work. Just like I have called you out on your foreign affair lies.

[Splits]

This is your white flag.

You appear to have no real reasoning behind your asinine take besides LET'S OWN THE LIBS....UMM I MEAN REPUBLICANS.

Just doesn't have the same ring to it. Sorry.

I wouldn't expect an establishment DNC donor to understand.

[Spurminator]

I'm not sure that's possible with a simple majority. But thanks to Turtle you can ram through SC justices with 50+vp

I'm a little bit out of my league here but I'm not sure more than a simple majority is required based on this article.


The answer is that under the Constitution, the number of Supreme Court Justices is not fixed, and Congress can change it by passing an act that is then signed by the President. Article III, Section 1, starts with a broad direction to Congress to establish the court system: “The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.”

https://constitutioncenter.org/amp/blog/packing-the-supreme-court-explained

[Will Hunting]

Yes it does. It triggers them for 40 years and reminds them she's Trump's child. Without him, she wouldn't be there. So like, uh, don't elect another Trump.

I don't think you need a constitutional amendment to pack the courts, which is why it's the better solution. FDR almost did. It would require blowing up the filibuster so it has no shot at happening, but a much better way to penalize Republicans for Trump would be to pack SCOTUS with more judges and to also admit more Democratic states into the union. I don't see Schumer having the balls to do it but if they have a senate majority they should grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico. Heck, just break DC into two states so it gets 4 senators. Breaking DC into two states isn't any more arbitrary than the border creating two "Dakotas."

Trump still accomplished the GOP objective by moving the swing vote further to the right, replacing RBG with AOC doesn't change who the swing vote is.

[Splits]

I don't think you need a constitutional amendment to pack the courts, which is why it's the better solution. FDR almost did. It would require blowing up the filibuster so it has no shot at happening, but a much better way to penalize Republicans for Trump would be to pack SCOTUS with more judges and to also admit more Democratic states into the union. I don't see Schumer having the balls to do it but if they have a senate majority they should grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico. Heck, just break DC into two states so it gets 4 senators. Breaking DC into two states isn't any more arbitrary than the border creating two "Dakotas."

It doesn't have to be either or, do all of it.

[spurraider21]

One (establishment) vote for Garland
saying you dont want AOC as a supreme court justice is a vote for Garland? weird. i figured there would be more candidates, where the only alternative to Garland wouldn't be taking somebody with no legal training or experience and making her a fucking supreme court justice.

[Spurminator]

If we're going to fuck norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.

Honestly fuck that, make it 13.

[boutons_deux]

impeach K for lying to the Senate for his earlier judgeship,

for having an emotional breakdown and political attacks in his job interview

totally unsuitable for SCOTUS judge for fucking life

then nominate BHO as his replacement, and let Notorious RBG retire.

"some say" turning up SCOTUS to eleven would not be acceptable,

but why is Repug stealing Obama's SCOTUS judge "acceptable",

why is McConnell blocking ALL of Obama's Federal judges for years acceptable?

As always, Repugs play hardball, smash mouth, while softball Dems don't even get in the game.

[Will Hunting]

It doesn't have to be either or, do all of it.
Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.

[ElNono]

My dream scenario:
- Dump wins 2020 and all hell breaks lose
- US is able to keep government functioning but Democratic party has a revolution
- they blow it up and install a new regime in DNC led by the Squad
- uSA finally gets a left wing party
- somehow the squad makes amends with likes of Tulsi and join forces
- 2024, ma niga AOC is installed as POTUS, Tulsi as VP (or sec of state)

Joe winning the election has substantially better odds than that happening, tbh... Ironically, that’s largely thanks to Trump.

[Reck]

Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.

We are also assuming most of the democrats will vote to confirm her. I dont think Warren would vote to confirm let alone Bernie.

Neither of these guys would consciously put someone as nakedly inexperienced as AOC for a life appointment. All things being equal, they always talk about Trump's shitty candidates being ill fitted for whatever role he wants them to be in. Split's dream is already dashed even before it starts to formulate.

Where does one go where you get this idea from? :lol

[Will Hunting]

Honestly fuck that, make it 13.
And make sure all nominees are 55 or younger. If Republicans are allowed to ignore norms and pick underqualified judges like Uncle Thomas just because they're young and will be alive for 40 more years once they're on the court, the Dems should do it too.

[Splits]

Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.

I'm not as convinced as you AOC is some political savant with an endless future, she's a primary/mistake/smear away from being a speck of dust

[baseline bum]

If we're going to fuck norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.

Norms were already fucked when McConnell decided to make the Supreme Court 8 justices. Democrats should absolutely stack the courts should they win the presidency and senate.

[Splits]

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/kSXv8hQ-E5jKyokLb5hgdMwmg9A=/0x4:640x339/fit-in/1200x630/cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6843077/michelle_02.gif

[Will Hunting]

I'm not as convinced as you AOC is some political savant with an endless future, she's a primary/mistake/smear away from being a speck of dust
We wouldn't be talking about a Green New Deal if not for her. Her Super PAC was also instrumental in helping progressives like Bowmann and Cori Bush win their primary this year. That's a lot more influential than she could ever be on the court.

Like it or not she currently presents the best chance at a progressive left that's politically relevant.

[Will Hunting]

Norms were already fucked when McConnell decided to make the Supreme Court 8 justices. Democrats should absolutely stack the courts should they win the presidency and senate.
Not only that, once McConnell ended the filibuster on SCOTUS picks so they could ram Gorsuch through, the argument from establishment Dems about how :cry we need to be careful about ending the filibuster :cry went away. It's pretty clear that McConnell would eventually end the filibuster altogether if it was getting in the way of legislation his corporate overlords really wanted.

If the Democrats don't use the nuclear option on the filibuster in order to ram a bunch of legislation through, the Republicans eventually will. Better to be proactive than reactive. I can't think of better legislation to end the filibuster with than legislation around adding states to the union that pad a Democrat majority.

[Splits]

We wouldn't be talking about a Green New Deal if not for her. Her Super PAC was also instrumental in helping progressives like Bowmann and Cori Bush win their primary this year. That's a lot more influential than she could ever be on the court.

Like it or not she currently presents the best chance at a progressive left that's politically relevant.

Alright, I'll cry uncle and substitute Schiff for AOC as RBG replacement. But he needs a 3-letter nickname

[hater]

Joe winning the election has substantially better odds than that happening, tbh... Ironically, that’s largely thanks to Trump.

Agree

But either way Trump got 2020 locked down

[Will Hunting]

Alright, I'll cry uncle and substitute Schiff for AOC as RBG replacement. But he needs a 3-letter nickname
Fuck that, I don't want Schiff. It definitely needs to be a female minority to trigger conservatives.

[Spurminator]

Fuck that, I don't want Schiff. It definitely needs to be a female minority to trigger conservatives.

I can think of a pretty good one whose last name rhymes with Joe bama

[Ef-man]

Fuck that, I don't want Schiff. It definitely needs to be a female minority to trigger conservatives.

You want triggered conservatives, put hillary. :lmao

Jim Jones kool-aid would sell out in minutes

[Will Hunting]

You want triggered conservatives, put hillary. :lmao

Jim Jones kool-aid would sell out in minutes
No way, she's too old. After the Republicans blew up the very reasonable nomination of then-63 year old Merrick Garland, Democratic Presidents shouldn't be nominating SCOTUS picks over 55 anymore.

Michelle Obama would be hilarious even though she's slightly older than I'd like but she doesn't seem to have any interest in anything politics related.

[hater]

I like Michael Obama. I wpuld not mind in SCOTUs

But Shillary GTFO

Id rather take Judge Dredd

[ChumpDumper]

I like Michael Obama. I wpuld not mind in SCOTUs

But Shillary GTFO

Id rather take Judge Dredd:lol you're not even voting for president

[spurraider21]

Alright, I'll cry uncle and substitute Schiff for AOC as RBG replacement. But he needs a 3-letter nickname
why do you keep suggesting we stick congresspeople with no judicial experience to the highest court? just get a qualified judge who has some experience on appeal :lol

a vast majority of SCOTUS cases aren't very political charged and cant just be easily decided based on your political leaning and how you want to spin your interpretation of the case/statute to accommodate your beliefs. thats just the one that make the news.

[spurraider21]

all of this is absurd fantasy talk tbh...

[Spurminator]

all of this is absurd fantasy talk tbh...

It's fun to dream.

[hater]

:lol you're not even voting for president

Correct :tu

[Splits]

why do you keep suggesting we stick congresspeople with no judicial experience to the highest court? just get a qualified judge who has some experience on appeal :lol

a vast majority of SCOTUS cases aren't very political charged and cant just be easily decided based on your political leaning and how you want to spin your interpretation of the case/statute to accommodate your beliefs. thats just the one that make the news.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/57475cebb09823be03ef3d98/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/hive-contributor-profile-ted-cruz.jpg

[pgardn]

betcha Pop votes this time for someone besides Pedro.

[Bogie]

I like Michael Obama. I wpuld not mind in SCOTUs

But Shillary GTFO

Id rather take Judge Dredd

michael? You are such a lying sack of shit.

[spurraider21]

cruz
i would agree that cruz would be an asinine pick, because aside from his abhorrent views he'd be unqualified. is this supposed to be an argument against what i'm saying?

[Splits]

i would agree that cruz would be an asinine pick, because aside from his abhorrent views he'd be unqualified. is this supposed to be an argument against what i'm saying?

considering Trump just put him on the list, yes.

[spurraider21]

considering Trump just put him on the list, yes.
so because trump is degrading our systems you think the dems should also make efforts to degrade it just as badly?

[Splits]

so because trump is degrading our systems you think the dems should also make efforts to degrade it just as badly?

no. worse

[Will Hunting]

so because trump is degrading our systems you think the dems should also make efforts to degrade it just as badly?
Yeah I fully support exploiting how flawed and out of date the constitution is in order to help your side push its agenda / stop the other side from pushing its agenda by any means necessary, but there's no point in exploiting it just for the sake of exploiting it. Putting a congressman with no judicial experience on SCOTUS doesn't hurt Republicans more acutely than a liberal judge with experience being nominated would, it's just being retarded for the sake of being retarded.

[spurraider21]

Yeah I fully support exploiting how flawed and out of date the constitution is in order to help your side push its agenda / stop the other side from pushing its agenda by any means necessary, but there's no point in exploiting it just for the sake of exploiting it. Putting a congressman with no judicial experience on SCOTUS doesn't hurt Republicans more acutely than a liberal judge with experience being nominated would, it's just being retarded for the sake of being retarded.
yeah thats my main issue with where this convo has gone

[ElNono]

Agree

But either way Trump got 2020 locked down

Not sure about that one... he need to win the States he won in 2016, and I don't think he will. But we'll see.

[Splits]

Yeah I fully support exploiting how flawed and out of date the constitution is in order to help your side push its agenda / stop the other side from pushing its agenda by any means necessary, but there's no point in exploiting it just for the sake of exploiting it. Putting a congressman with no judicial experience on SCOTUS doesn't hurt Republicans more acutely than a liberal judge with experience being nominated would, it's just being retarded for the sake of being retarded.

a congressperson has an undeniable record and are a known commodity on how they will rule. it is zero-sum, raw politics at this point. some obscure appeals court judge with benign rulings, you are playing roulette. you don't want an O'Connor