Spurs linked to Facundo Campazzo

[Dverde]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/09/wolves-mavs-spurs-among-likely-campazzo-suitors.html

“However, the Wolves aren’t the only team with an eye on Campazzo. The Mavericks and Spurs are also potential suitors, according to Martinez, who notes that San Antonio head coach Gregg Popovich is a fan of the 29-year-old. The two Southwest rivals have previously been cited (https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/04/southwest-notes-gordon-spurs-mavs-campazzo-pelicans.html) as having interest in Campazzo.”

Seems like BS article. Haven’t heard of this guy. Worth a FA signing?

[Dejounte]

29 is not that old. Wouldn't mind it if we traded away Murray or Mills.

[Chinook]

This adds more fuel to the idea that Murray/DeRozan won't be on the team next year. You can totally argue that the team needs a PG anyway in place of Forbes/Beli because if White starts the second unit doesn't have much ball-handling. But the tea leaves seem to be looking like the Spurs will at least look into shopping DJM, and DeRozan will have his options. Quinn is okay for a deep-bench prospect, but he's not going to stop a vet from making the roster.

[DAF86]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/09/wolves-mavs-spurs-among-likely-campazzo-suitors.html

“However, the Wolves aren’t the only team with an eye on Campazzo. The Mavericks and Spurs are also potential suitors, according to Martinez, who notes that San Antonio head coach Gregg Popovich is a fan of the 29-year-old. The two Southwest rivals have previously been cited (https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/04/southwest-notes-gordon-spurs-mavs-campazzo-pelicans.html) as having interest in Campazzo.”

Seems like BS article. Haven’t heard of this guy. Worth a FA signing?

He's by far the most talented Argentine player right now. Lead the team to silver on last years' WC (wins over favourites Serbia and France). One of the best players in Europe. Spur fans would love him, he has that Argie BB mixture of high IQ, flashyness and competitive spirit. He's really short though (5'10") and I don't think he fits a need. If the Spurs were still contenders and needed a good backup PG I would be all for it (should have signed him instead of Laprovittola some years ago), but right now? It's a non needle-moving sign.

[Dejounte]

I wonder if this is just a rehash from the article back in April and they just pulled the information from that?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/spurs-zone/report-spurs-eyeing-argentinian-guard-facundo-campazzo

Also, why would a Croatian news source have scoop on an Argentinian guard?

[Chinook]

I wonder if this is just a rehash from the article back in April and they just pulled the information from that?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/spurs-zone/report-spurs-eyeing-argentinian-guard-facundo-campazzo

Also, why would a Croatian news source have scoop on an Argentinian guard?

Europe is much more interconnected when it comes to basketball than you'd think considering the different domestic leagues and such. It's hard to really contextualize for Americans since we have an ocean between us and any legit domestic leagues. But in Europe, it's pretty much a super org with players moving between leagues and getting bought out and all that mess all the time.

That's a long-winded way to say that it's not weird that a Croatian news source would be able to scoop what a Spanish League player is doing. It would be less weird than say a Blazers reporter scooping who a Knicks player is signing with.

[Russ]

An older Argentine with an Italian name?

Nah, he'll never make it with the Spurs . . .

[talkspurs]

29 is not that old. Wouldn't mind it if we traded away Murray or Mills.

Next year youll see Murray will be better. If we can get rid of DDr and LMA then the young guys will be better. Most of them play with lack of confidence. Murray tries to over compensate and pushes to much sometimes. Keldon was the only one that seemed to keep confidence up even when not getting the touches but was such a small sample to know if he could keep it up. So many people are basing the players off of the bubble.

Lonnie is the one to me that should be looked at being traded. I think he will continue to be inconsistent and will never be a big player. I also think he has the shortest career of the young 4.

[baseline bum]

Fagundo Crapcazzo, is he Belinelli's brother or some shit?

[Sugus]

Let me give y'all some additional insight on this, since I'd love for the Spurs to sign Campazzo.

First off, I haven't seen a reliable source linking Campazzo to the Spurs since the April report. But this is probably coming out now since Spain's Supercopa was played two days ago, between Real Madrid (featuring Argies Facundo Campazzo, Gabriel Deck and Nicolás Laprovíttola) and Barcelona (trotting out Spurstalk beloved Leandro Bolmaro); in this match, Campazzo poured in 21pts, 4rb, 2as & 1stl in 33min of play, which earned him FMVP honors. It's notable that Facundo has won Finals MVP honors in the last 4 consecutive Finals that he's played with Madrid, all close in span (Liga ACB & Supercopa 2019, Copa del Rey 2020, Supercopa 2020). You can see some tape on his latest performance here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8ZGFShpQk

The guy is a wizard, pure heart, hustle and brains. He'd be an extremely underrated addition, and would produce instantly since he's already at the peak of his game. And another piece of upside that people don't think about - this guy would make a great mentor and locker room presence to our young guys. He's won on his own already, he's led his NT, he knows what it takes. I'd love to see White, Keldon, maybe even DJ if he's not traded, learning from him and working with him to get better.

Worth mentioning that another article (in Spanish) that I found from yesterday, mentions he's striken a deal with Madrid: they allow him to leave for the NBA when the 2021-2022 FA signing period begins, but he had to play for them until it opened, which included yesterday's game, and he also has to pay the full extent of his exit clause (about 6 million euros). Also mentions that Campazzo had already made his wishes clear to the FO "a long time ago".

Lastly, for anyone who's also interested in Laprovittola, he'll apparently be granted a bigger role on Real now that Campazzo's leaving: Nico almost left to sign with Panathinaikos of Greece, having been told by Madrid that they didn't have a lot of interest in him, but after learning about Campazzo's wishes, the club retained him. Worth mentioning that Nico's been heavily under the shadow of Campazzo on the team: in yesterday's game, he had 2pts and 2rbs in only 6min of playing time.

By the way, yesterday's game was tied at 66 until a minute to go in the fourth, where Campazzo, who'd scored 12 of his team's 22 points in the 4th, took over with a wild shot (shown in the highlight) to seal the game. Clutch. Give me this guy's defensive woes over DeMar's any day of the week.

[DAF86]

He would be an improvement for sure. He's easily better (at least offensively) than any Spurs guard right now with the exception of maybe White, but what's the point of getting him at this point? He would only be taking minutes away from the guys we are trying to develop.

[RC_Drunkford]

If the Spurs are really interested in him it would probably mean they want to move Patty. Just my 2 cents. Campazzo would come off the bench and is a defensive liability, he could be a cheaper Patty replacement with better playmaking skills

[ZeusWillJudge]

I like him a lot. Laprovittola is a tough bastard, and I would have liked to see the Spurs keep him as a backup. But Campazzo is what I hoped Lap would grow into - except one thing. He's 5'10" tall, and I don't think his wingspan is much more than that, if any more. It's getting harder for guys that size to play in the NBA. But he's a damn good point, and more in the mold of Avery Johnson than anyone the Spurs have had since Avery Johnson.

Anyone who hasn't watched him play - he's strong and he's not afraid to use it. You know how sick it is to watch teams apply back court pressure to Forbes, and see him get stopped like a deer in the headlights? That wouldn't happen with Campazzo. He would change the whole complexion of this team. I'm not saying he would be an All Star, but the Spurs are so deficient in that area that it would be a big lift. DeRozan would get the ball more when he has an advantage and is already moving downhill, which would make him MUCH more dangerous - and that's just one example.

I don't know about this rumor. It would make a difference if the Spurs had someone in the gym where he played yesterday. But Sugus also says he would have to pay 6M Euro to get out of his deal with Madrid? I don't know how that could be overcome. But with him here, Pop could get creative with White/Murray and the PG/SG minutes. It would open up a whole lot of possibilities.

One thing that's sort of fun to think about. At 5'10" Campazzo weighs almost exactly the same as Aleksej Pokusevski, who's 7' tall, but he's not slowed down by it. There's always a question mark about how a Euro player will translate to the NBA, but I would take a chance on Campazzo, for sure... assuming the money situation can be worked out.

[Chomag]

I would be happy to have him if we get rid of mills /forbes and maybe even Murray otherwise he would just add more redundancy to an all ready very redundant roster.

[BackHome]

If he comes to Texas it will probably be with the Mavs.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I would be happy to have him if we get rid of mills /forbes and maybe even Murray otherwise he would just add more redundancy to an all ready very redundant roster.


Get rid of Mills and Forbes, and draft Vassell for his 3P shooting and as a defensive upgrade to both of those guys. Vassell is also a good rebounder. The Spurs could have the best rebounding guard corps in the league. That's a good start toward becoming competitive again.

The more I think about the Spurs having Campazzo running the offense, the more I hope there's something to the rumor. But I agree, only if they they made some other moves.

[offset formation]

Get rid of Mills and Forbes, and draft Vassell for his 3P shooting and as a defensive upgrade to both of those guys. Vassell is also a good rebounder. The Spurs could have the best rebounding guard corps in the league. That's a good start toward becoming competitive again.

The more I think about the Spurs having Campazzo running the offense, the more I hope there's something to the rumor. But I agree, only if they they made some other moves.

Fair enough, he may be all you say and more, but if you are such an advocate for him then I don't want to see any complaints from you about small PGs.

Not sure if that's ever been your complaint but this board survives on the blood of hatred for small PGs.

[venitian navigator]

Considering how much he should pay his ex team the only way to have him could be via MLE...

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fair enough, he may be all you say and more, but if you are such an advocate for him then I don't want to see any complaints from you about small PGs.

Not sure if that's ever been your complaint but this board survives on the blood of hatred for small PGs.


Heh. If you look up a few posts, that's the first thing I said about him - height and wingspan. I don't hate on anyone who gets the job done. I don't hate on Mills because he's an undersized PG. I hate on Mills because he's an undersized 2 guard who plays the point, and can't defend for shit. Campazzo is also tough, and that's something this team can always use more of.

I'll make you a deal. IF the Spurs do sign him, and he's not good, I'll complain like everyone else - but I'll change my sig to a disclaimer saying I was dumb for wanting to bring him here. :D

[KobesAchilles]

Is he the guy that sang the national anthem in front of the Queen at the Angels game back in 1988?

[NASpurs]

Is he the guy that sang the national anthem in front of the Queen at the Angels game back in 1988?

Wait, I thought he was the guy who sang the national anthem in the first Naked Gun movie...

[Dverde]

Seems like a backup plan if Forbes walks. I don’t foresee it, but always dumb teams out there.

[Spursfanfromafar]

He would be a great fit with Luka Doncic and the Mavs. Their JJ Barea replacement. I suspect the Mavs will try to pry him from Madrid (Luka's former team) more than the Spurs will.

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Heh. If you look up a few posts, that's the first thing I said about him - height and wingspan. I don't hate on anyone who gets the job done. I don't hate on Mills because he's an undersized PG. I hate on Mills because he's an undersized 2 guard who plays the point, and can't defend for shit. Campazzo is also tough, and that's something this team can always use more of.

I'll make you a deal. IF the Spurs do sign him, and he's not good, I'll complain like everyone else - but I'll change my sig to a disclaimer saying I was dumb for wanting to bring him here. :D

Not necessary. I'm a believer in talent regardless of size...mostly.

I have zero problem with Mills because he stays in front of his man more often than not, which is why he draws charges more than most on the team. That can't be said about Forbes.

[DAF86]

If he comes to Texas it will probably be with the Mavs.

He would be Juan Barea 2.0. Carlisle would love him.

[R. DeMurre]

The "link" the Spurs have to him seems tenuous at best: Pop may have said something about him once upon a time, and the Spurs had an Argentine player in the past, so....

[Sugus]

He would be an improvement for sure. He's easily better (at least offensively) than any Spurs guard right now with the exception of maybe White, but what's the point of getting him at this point? He would only be taking minutes away from the guys we are trying to develop.

It's not like the Spurs can only make moves that turn them towards a tank or immediate contention, and everything else is futile. The point is - you bring a solid, quality PG, that you can use to distribute the ball and playmake either off the bench, or closing out games; he's got a lot of experience and a winning mentality (something this team SORELY lacks being championed by bona fide losers DeRozan and Aldrige, none of who have sniffed a championship of any sorts), and most importantly, he's a good locker room presence (which has the added benefit of making Patty more expendable, say bye to Patty as "bench PG" :vomit:) AND can mentor the youngsters in terms of BBIQ. Look at how good CP3's presence has been in the development of Shai in OKC. White, for all the good things that he does, could use someone like that to watch over him and teach him the ropes. God knows I'd rather have our young players soaking up vet experience from Campazzo than be learning DeMar's shitty antics.

[Sugus]

I like him a lot. Laprovittola is a tough bastard, and I would have liked to see the Spurs keep him as a backup. But Campazzo is what I hoped Lap would grow into - except one thing. He's 5'10" tall, and I don't think his wingspan is much more than that, if any more. It's getting harder for guys that size to play in the NBA. But he's a damn good point, and more in the mold of Avery Johnson than anyone the Spurs have had since Avery Johnson.

Anyone who hasn't watched him play - he's strong and he's not afraid to use it. You know how sick it is to watch teams apply back court pressure to Forbes, and see him get stopped like a deer in the headlights? That wouldn't happen with Campazzo. He would change the whole complexion of this team. I'm not saying he would be an All Star, but the Spurs are so deficient in that area that it would be a big lift. DeRozan would get the ball more when he has an advantage and is already moving downhill, which would make him MUCH more dangerous - and that's just one example.

I don't know about this rumor. It would make a difference if the Spurs had someone in the gym where he played yesterday. But Sugus also says he would have to pay 6M Euro to get out of his deal with Madrid? I don't know how that could be overcome. But with him here, Pop could get creative with White/Murray and the PG/SG minutes. It would open up a whole lot of possibilities.

One thing that's sort of fun to think about. At 5'10" Campazzo weighs almost exactly the same as Aleksej Pokusevski, who's 7' tall, but he's not slowed down by it. There's always a question mark about how a Euro player will translate to the NBA, but I would take a chance on Campazzo, for sure... assuming the money situation can be worked out.

Agree with mostly everything you've said - the upside is obvious and anyone thinking "oh, he'll just be a bench PG, what's the big deal" is quite wrong. One thing I disagree with - I don't think he'll have much trouble playing in the NBA in regards to his height. Yes, he'll get shot over, but so do Patty, Forbes etc and they still have careers in the NBA; but unlike both of them, Campazzo plays gritty defense and is extremely strong and bullish, a real pest for opposing teams. A similar player comp could be Fred VanVleet or maybe Lowry - both undersized, but make up for it on defense with hustle, good fundamentals and strength. And besides, now more than ever, there's a real advantage to being undersized in terms of how the officials allow you to play up to bigger players - the same way Pocket Rockets would've been destroyed in the 90's but can work in the modern NBA, I can see Campazzo succeeding whereas yesteryear he'd have been absolutely abused.

As for the 6M clause - I've read conflicting reports, some indicating Campazzo has agreed to pay the sum in full, and some reporting that he'll pay a large chunk, but not all of it. I don't think an exact figure has been decided (or has leaked so far) - but the decision seems to be quite official, as Facu himself has come out to confirm he'll come as a FA once the NBA FA period for next season begins, and Madrid has already mave moves, like keeping Lapro, that indicate they're considering him gone.

[TimDunkem]

Spurs are running back the same team.

[diego]

Probably every argentine player since 2005 will be linked to the spurs, just because of manu.

That said, there has been buzz for months about Campazzo coming to the nba ,I think it's pretty certain he'll come.

I also think it's pretty certain he'll play well enough to justify his contract, this is a guy who has been playing at the highest level for years , and unlike other euro busts, he's very physical, versatile, and competitive. His size won't be an issue because of how aggressive, energetic and competitive he is

Don't know if the spurs are interested but would take him over forbes, beli, and murray in an instant

[Dverde]

Per the report, Campazzo is expected to move to the NBA when free agency opens on November 22.


It is still unknown whether the Argentinian guard has agreed to a deal with an NBA team.
Campazzo, who is considered one of the best EuroLeague players, has a buy-out in his contract with Real, worth 6M euros.

[The Truth #6]

That would be classic Spurs. Everyone is thinking trades and they pull an unexpected euro signing. He would totally fit the Patty role but probably better.

[DavidTheGoliath]

The lack of mexicans in the squad is concerning. This would be a good signing if ever the spurs decided to get him :lobt:

[Chinook]

To justify a buyout that big, Campazzo would have to get something like $20M/4. We're talking a huge chunk of the MLE here. It's very possible that Fac's buyout would be a lot smaller for an NBA team, though. In any event, the Spurs shouldn't just look at moving Mills as being something that would automatically open up minutes for a vet. Like they do have a long-term need for a good third PG, but I doubt Campazzo would be hopping over here for that

Ugh, so maybe something like:

Richardson, 21 for Mills 11, drafting a front-courter with 21 and trying to run with the same group again.

Murray, White, Campazzo
Richardson, Walker, Weatherspoon
DeRozan, Johnson, McDaniels
Lyles, Gay, Samanic
Aldridge, Poeltl, Eubanks

With 41 going to some new two-way contract or Oturu replacing Eubanks.

Before Deeps comes in and mentions how DMDR is definitely not going to be a Spur anymore and all that, it's whatever. I could see the Spurs trying to run it back, and in a vacuum, moving Mills for Richardson and replacing him with Campazzo does seem to increase the talent of the team in an off-season where the West doesn't look all that strong. Assuming Campazzo actually takes Walker's/Johnson's minutes the team is better than they were last year, and the price of making the move wouldn't be too great if they think they can still get their guy at 21. But still, even though I'm not against a win-now move, I don't like trading for a guy who's frankly appearing to be a product of Spo's scheme rather than a legit really good player. His biggest value to SA would be as a piece to entice GS to trade 2 rather than guy they should use themselves.

I'd probably prefer them do a Mills, Derozan for Harris and 21 trade. It ruins their cap, but it gives the team a scorer to replace Aldridge with Poeltl going forward.

Murray, Campazzo, Mader (41)
White, Walker, Weatherspoon
Johnson, McDaniels/Bolmaro (21)
Harris,, Gay, Samanic
Poeltl, Jalen Smith (11), Eubanks

Leaving out whatever Aldridge would get, which would at least fill rotation spots if nothing else, it's a different lineup for sure. There's some potential for that first unit to be good defensively and score enough to win their time on the floor. I'd be less confident in the second unit, but they could probably run pretty well. Using that last spot on a defensive SF would help solidify the bench, and obviously neither Eubanks nor Spoon are irreplaceable

[RC_Drunkford]

Campazzo won't go to the Spurs. Why would he play for a lottery team? He will go to the Mavs

[GreekSpursfan]

I'm in the Campazzo in camp

[Dejounte]

I was watching a bit of him and my oh my is he fun to watch. I'm in.

[Dejounte]

Campazzo/ DJ/ Q
White/ Lonnie/ Lakers 28th pick on Leandro Bolmaro
Keldon/ Woodard
Kuzma/ Lyles/ Smith
Wiseman/ Samanic/ Eubanks

[Dverde]

Just like Demar Derozan grew up watching Kobe, he probably grew up on Manu/Popovich. I would think Spurs would be on the top of his wish list. Grizzlies are rumored to be pursuing him. He’s also friends and a former teammate of Luka Doncic.

[GAustex]

Can this dude play defense?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Can this dude play defense?


Yes.

As for the buyout, I'm pretty sure he's on the hook for the entire $6M. His NBA team can pay $750K or $775K, I forget which. So it's going to cost him roughly $5.25M up front, so that gives you an idea of what the contract would have to be for. Clearly he and his agent believe that the market will bear that much for him.

I would love to have him on the Spurs. But if they are going to have to go to great lengths to get him, I would rather see them go to similar lengths to swing for Killian Hayes just because of age. But Campazzo would definitely make the team better for the next several years.

[Dverde]

Campazzo signed two year deal with the Nuggets.

/end thread :violin

[ismael-robert]

Campazzo signed two year deal with the Nuggets.

/end thread :violin

Everyone knew this thats why it wasnt updated in a week till u came along with this wisdom

[Dverde]

Everyone knew this thats why it wasnt updated in a week till u came along with this wisdom
Deal was announced yesterday...