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RandomGuy
09-24-2020, 02:29 PM
Looks like dictator-wannabe is actively gearing up to nullify the election results if he loses, like every other despot that moves to cling on to power when democracy happens. He already trotted out trial balloons for this in 2016 calling the election he won "rigged".
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A jarring new report from The Atlantic claims that the Trump campaign is discussing potential strategies to circumvent the results of the 2020 election, should Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump, by first alleging the existence of rampant fraud and then asking legislators in battleground states where the Republicans have a legislative majority to bypass the state’s popular vote and instead to choose electors loyal to the GOP and the sitting president.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/23/report-trump-campaign-actively-discussing-radical-measures-to-bypass-election-results
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/
boutons_deux
09-24-2020, 02:36 PM
Baghdad Bob McEnany says Trash is ok with "free and fair election"
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 02:40 PM
I really hope Biden is surrounded by some smart advisers and $1000/hour lawyers, because it’s not re-assuring that he’s the only check and balance that makes sure the elections are fair.
Having Dem governors in WI/MI/PA/NC + picking up that Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin could very well be the difference maker this year, if Scott Walker was still Governor in Wisconsin then you might as well assume that state goes to Trump. Losing the gubernatorial race in Florida meanwhile is looking more costly every day.
boutons_deux
09-24-2020, 02:44 PM
White House press secretary says Trump will 'accept the results of a free and fair election'
McEnany is trying to spin President Trump's election fraud allegations back on Democrats.
"the president will accept the results of a free and fair election."
Trump's baseless suggestions that this will not be a free and fair election. :lol
While Trump has alleged attempted fraud,
FBI Director Christopher Wray confirmed Thursday there was
no evidence (https://theweek.com/speedreads/939471/fbi-director-wray-says-theres-no-evidence-national-voter-fraud-after-trump-baselessly-suggests-ballot-scam) of a national effort to commit fraud "by mail or otherwise" this election or "historically."
https://theweek.com/speedreads/939524/white-house-press-secretary-says-trump-accept-results-free-fair-election
I really hope Biden is surrounded by some smart advisers and $1000/hour lawyers, because it’s not re-assuring that he’s the only check and balance that makes sure the elections are fair.
Having Dem governors in WI/MI/PA/NC + picking up that Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin could very well be the difference maker this year, if Scott Walker was still Governor in Wisconsin then you might as well assume that state goes to Trump. Losing the gubernatorial race in Florida meanwhile is looking more costly every day.
Something his campaign has been aware of for months.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/biden-voter-protection-efforts/index.html
This is from June. You can imagine he has only hired even more as Trump attacks the process with more intensity.
RandomGuy
09-24-2020, 03:05 PM
Just under a year ago, Justin Clark gave a closed-door talk in Wisconsin to a select audience of Republican lawyers. He thought he was speaking privately, but someone had brought a recording device. He had a lot to say about Election Day operations, or “EDO.”
At the time, Clark was a senior lieutenant with Trump’s re#election campaign; in July, he was promoted to deputy campaign manager. “Wisconsin’s the state that is going to tip this one way or the other … So it makes EDO really, really, really important,” he said. He put the mission bluntly: “Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes … [Democrats’] voters are all in one part of the state, so let’s start playing offense a little bit. And that’s what you’re going to see in 2020. That’s what’s going to be markedly different. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program, and we’re going to need all the help we can get.” (Clark later claimed that his remarks had been misconstrued, but his explanation made no sense in context.)
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:19 PM
Something his campaign has been aware of for months.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/biden-voter-protection-efforts/index.html
This is from June. You can imagine he has only hired even more as Trump attacks the process with more intensity.
Yeah that’s the problem? Biden’s campaign is really “aware” and that’s where it stops. Ultimately the problem that creates exposure is that urban voting precincts take way too fucking long to canvass and count ballots, and should be easy to avoid.
Biden has also completely taken for granted how mail-in ballots are tricky and can be contested by the other party. There’s no groundgame from Biden that’s making sure his supporters in places like Philadelphia are following rules and double enveloping their ballots like the state requires.
Hiring a bunch of lawyers and paying them to be “aware” is the stupidest strategy I’ve ever heard.
spurraider21
09-24-2020, 03:20 PM
referring to RG's last comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=am0egba-KNQ&feature=emb_logo
the comments in question start around the 19 minute mark. for the record, it doesnt sound like he's advocating for a widespread suppression program. he suggests that democrats are "cheating" in their counties and he wants to get on the offensive and "protecting our voters"
he does mention the "traditionally its been republicans suppressing votes" but he's implying that in these counties, its democrats who are pulling those shenanigans
Leetonidas
09-24-2020, 03:21 PM
Sad that the Trumpers on this forum are totally cool with an authoritarian president outright looking for ways to circumvent the election results :lol dude was saying it was rigged even when he won 4 years ago :lmao
Trumpers arent constitutionalists. They arent patriots. they're cult followers. no president has ever hinted at not honoring the election results. but it's totally cool for Trump to do it
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:21 PM
Ultimately the problem that creates exposure is that urban voting precincts...
the people you hate... those you call cute racist terms right racistWill?
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:22 PM
Sad that the Trumpers on this forum are totally cool with an authoritarian president outright looking for ways to circumvent the election results :lol dude was saying it was rigged even when he won 4 years ago :lmao
Trumpers arent constitutionalists. They arent patriots. they're cult followers. no president has ever hinted at not honoring the election results. but it's totally cool for Trump to do it
lol says the psychos who cry out for mass mail-in ballots, abolishing the EC, etc... :lmao
oh and i believe trump is still waiting for hillary to accept the results of 2016. :lol
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:23 PM
the people you hate... those you call cute racist terms right racistWill?
:lol says the trailer trash meth head who wants Mexicans to get forced hysterectomies.
hater
09-24-2020, 03:24 PM
Sad that the Trumpers on this forum are totally cool with an authoritarian president outright looking for ways to circumvent the election results :lol dude was saying it was rigged even when he won 4 years ago :lmao
Trumpers arent constitutionalists. They arent patriots. they're cult followers. no president has ever hinted at not honoring the election results. but it's totally cool for Trump to do it
Probably as sad as "democrats" trying impeachment on a fake russia story tbqh
Yeah that’s the problem? Biden’s campaign is really “aware” and that’s where it stops. Ultimately the problem that creates exposure is that urban voting precincts take way too fucking long to canvass and count ballots, and should be easy to avoid.
Biden has also completely taken for granted how mail-in ballots are tricky and can be contested by the other party. There’s no groundgame from Biden that’s making sure his supporters in places like Philadelphia are following rules and double enveloping their ballots like the state requires.
Hiring a bunch of lawyers and paying them to be “aware” is the stupidest strategy I’ve ever heard.
By all means do tell what you'd be doing then.
Hiring Antifa and give them guns to make sure they vote accordingly?
This is a fight that will have to be fought in the courts. Not sure what Biden is supposed to be doing here.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:25 PM
Probably as sad as "democrats" trying impeachment on a fake russia story tbqh
Republicans started the “impeach the other party’s president for a stupid reason” arms race 20 years ago.
And no, that’s a ridiculous false equivalence.
boutons_deux
09-24-2020, 03:27 PM
Sad that the Trumpers on this forum are totally cool with an authoritarian president outright looking for ways to circumvent the election results :lol dude was saying it was rigged even when he won 4 years ago :lmao
Trumpers arent constitutionalists. They arent patriots. they're cult followers. no president has ever hinted at not honoring the election results. but it's totally cool for Trump to do it
"a study" showed that people value their tribe membership, eg biker gang, church, political party, over the law, morals, ethics
which is of course SOCIALISM where tribe members expect to gain benefits, protection, money, dominance in UNION with other tribe members
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:27 PM
:lol says the trailer trash meth head who wants Mexicans to get forced hysterectomies.
you're funny with your fake news racistWill... real funny!
let's break it down for you since you're a racist retard racistWill. first i've never lived in a trailer ever in my life & more power to those that have or do(to each their own). second, i'm no methhead nor have i ever wanted to be a methhead. third, i make crude jokes yet you specially make racist posts daily with your cute racist takes racistWill.
you can keep on trying your hardest to wiggle out of this reality but it won't help you whatsoever. you're a fake wannabe liberal who's really everything you claim to hate; you're a fucking racist straight up racistWill! :tu
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:29 PM
Republicans started the “impeach the other party’s president for a stupid reason” arms race 20 years ago.
And no, that’s a ridiculous false equivalence.
LMAO the reply from you above is a false equivalence you big fucking racist racistWIll. :lmao
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:29 PM
By all means do tell what you'd be doing then.
Hiring Antifa and give them guns to make sure they vote accordingly?
This is a fight that will have to be fought in the courts. Not sure what Biden is supposed to be doing here.
1) Id actually have field offices in battleground states working to get votes out and make sure mail-in ballots are cast correctly. Crazy idea for a presidential campaign to have field offices in battleground states i know.
2) I’d have campaign staff in communication with the county recorder and Election staff in important areas (ie Broward County) to make sure they have a plan and aren’t going to need until December to canvass for ballots
:lmao “this is a fight that will have to be fought in the courts that Trump and McConnell have stacked” no wonder the Democrats lose at everything.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:30 PM
you're funny with your fake news racistWill... real funny!
let's break it down for you since you're a racist retard racistWill. first i've never lived in a trailer ever in my life & more power to those that have or do(to each their own). second, i'm no methhead nor have i ever wanted to be a methhead. third, i make crude jokes yet you specially make racist posts daily with your cute racist takes racistWill.
you can keep on trying your hardest to wiggle out of this reality but it won't help you whatsoever. you're a fake wannabe liberal who's really everything you claim to hate; you're a fucking racist straight up racistWill! :tu
:lmao Joey is really angry today
DarrinS
09-24-2020, 03:31 PM
Unhinged, tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRONbU4D0hY
Bogie
09-24-2020, 03:32 PM
Probably as sad as "democrats" trying impeachment on a fake russia story tbqh
can you cite the section of the mueller report that exonerated trump? I mean since it was fake, Boris, you should be able to pull that section up to provide the link, right comrade?
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:32 PM
:lmao Joey is really angry today
every post i make you racist fucks claim i'm angry. i'm quite chill rn playing on the internet. i get it, you don't like being called out for the racist that you are and that's fine racistWill. OWN IT!
RandomGuy
09-24-2020, 03:32 PM
Sad that the Trumpers on this forum are totally cool with an authoritarian president outright looking for ways to circumvent the election results :lol dude was saying it was rigged even when he won 4 years ago :lmao
Trumpers arent constitutionalists. They arent patriots. they're cult followers. no president has ever hinted at not honoring the election results. but it's totally cool for Trump to do it
Eyup.
The kind of cult that formed the core of the Nazi party. Not really exaggerating at this point.
Don't be a sucker. 1947 when they knew what fascists were. clip from the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_aqUsMqEyw
or if you prefer the full length version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4
hater
09-24-2020, 03:32 PM
Republicans started the “impeach the other party’s president for a stupid reason” arms race 20 years ago.
And no, that’s a ridiculous false equivalence.
Illegal wiretapping check
Fake "intelligence" to get illegal wiretapping check
Millions spent, years wasted and zerl evidence found check
Still went ahead with dead end impeachment check
You are right. The OP is nothing compared to that
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:33 PM
can you cite the section of the mueller report that exonerated trump? I mean since it was fake, Boris, you should be able to pull that section up to provide the link, right comrade?
comrade... another stupid fucking loser who thinks he/she/it/them/they are cool. bogie you're a retard who parades around as an intellectual and it's semi comical.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:33 PM
every post i make you racist fucks claim i'm angry. i'm quite chill rn playing on the internet. i get it, you don't like being called out for the racist that you are and that's fine racistWill. OWN IT!
:lol not angry but writing in all caps
Saying something over and over again doesn’t make it true, Joey.
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:34 PM
Eyup.
The kind of cult that formed the core of the Nazi party. Not really exaggerating at this point.
Don't be a sucker. 1947 when they knew what fascists were. clip from the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_aqUsMqEyw
or if you prefer the full length version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4
everyone's a nazi! :lmao
Bogie
09-24-2020, 03:35 PM
you're funny with your fake news racistWill... real funny!
let's break it down for you since you're a racist retard racistWill. first i've never lived in a trailer ever in my life & more power to those that have or do(to each their own). second, i'm no methhead nor have i ever wanted to be a methhead. third, i make crude jokes yet you specially make racist posts daily with your cute racist takes racistWill.
you can keep on trying your hardest to wiggle out of this reality but it won't help you whatsoever. you're a fake wannabe liberal who's really everything you claim to hate; you're a fucking racist straight up racistWill! :tu
Joey is trying to play reverse psychology here Will, whatever will you do to counter?
Jesus, Joey, get back on the meds. No decent person wants to let a mentally unhinged raging addict to do their tattoos
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:35 PM
:lol not angry but writing in all caps
Saying something over and over again doesn’t make it true, Joey.
take your own advice you big fucking racist racistWIll! and it's most def true and ST's search is proof. now go find all your racist replies/posts and backtrack like tiegan/hanks. :tu
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:36 PM
Joey is trying to play reverse psychology here Will, whatever will you do to counter?
Jesus, Joey, get back on the meds. No decent person wants to let a mentally unhinged raging addict to do their tattoos
nah, i just think you're a weak fucking loser. prove me wrong you fucking loser!
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:36 PM
take your own advice you big fucking racist racistWIll! and it's most def true and ST's search is proof. now go find all your racist replies/posts and backtrack like tiegan/hanks. :tu
:lol so you want me to go prove the claim you’re making? You conservatives really don’t understand how logic works.
Bogie
09-24-2020, 03:36 PM
Illegal wiretapping check
Fake "intelligence" to get illegal wiretapping check
Millions spent, years wasted and zerl evidence found check
Still went ahead with dead end impeachment check
You are right. The OP is nothing compared to that
look at you ignore another simple question. where, in the mueller report, does it exonerate trump?
Called it
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:37 PM
btw racistWill.... "OWN IT!" wow so many caps!
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:38 PM
:lol so you want me to go prove the claim you’re making? You conservatives really don’t understand how logic works.
logic works just like this... you say racist shit here all the time but you're not racist? yeah your logic is the one that's flawed racistWill. :tu
1) Id actually have field offices in battleground states working to get votes out and make sure mail-in ballots are cast correctly. Crazy idea for a presidential campaign to have field offices in battleground states i know.
2) I’d have campaign staff in communication with the county recorder and Election staff in important areas (ie Broward County) to make sure they have a plan and aren’t going to need until December to canvass for ballots
:lmao “this is a fight that will have to be fought in the courts that Trump and McConnell have stacked” no wonder the Democrats lose at everything.
And what makes you think they haven’t been doing that?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/politics/joe-biden-campaign-2020.amp.html
What a novel idea. Go out but also adhere to health concerns because of the virus.
Also odd how you fail to mention democrats have been winning all the court battles having to do with voting this cycle.
Bogie
09-24-2020, 03:38 PM
comrade... another stupid fucking loser who thinks he/she/it/them/they are cool. bogie you're a retard who parades around as an intellectual and it's semi comical.
well since haters too much of a coward to answer a simple question, maybe you can do it for him Joey.
where was trump exonerated in the mueller report?
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:41 PM
well since haters too much of a coward to answer a simple question, maybe you can do it for him Joey.
where was trump exonerated in the mueller report?
now you're asking me shit idgaf about? lmao
i'm not a loon that buys into conspiracies like you obviously do so go read your little stupid mueller report, snuggle up with it at night, make sweet sweet love to it...
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:45 PM
And what makes you think they haven’t been doing that?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/politics/joe-biden-campaign-2020.amp.html
What a novel idea. Go out but also adhere to health concerns because of the virus.
Also odd how you fail to mention democrats have been winning all the court battles having to do with voting this cycle.
Oh cool, so after Biden loses, he can win a medal for being the candidate who followed CDC guidelines. If you’re playing by a set of rules the other side isn’t playing by, you’ve already lost.
Theres already ballots being cast in North Carolina and reports are black voter mail in ballots are being rejected at 5x the rate white voter mail in ballots are being rejected at. They don’t need boots on the ground next month, they need them now. That difference could easily tip both Biden’s chances in the state and also a senate race that decides who has a majority.
Biden also lost the court battle on naked ballots in Pennsylvania. The battles they’ve won were also state court battles with a few exception. The high stakes battles post election litigation is going to be in Trump/McConnell stacked federal court.
Biden’s strategy is to let the Federalist Society decide elections :lol
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:46 PM
btw racistWill.... "OWN IT!" wow so many caps!
:lol you were angry enough to hit the all caps key or hold shift down as you typed it Joey. Facts.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:48 PM
Reck the last 3 times I’ve ranted on this site about something Biden should be doing he’s started doing it so by arguing with you I’m largely just hoping the streak stays alive :lol
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:48 PM
:lol you were angry enough to hit the all caps key or hold shift down as you typed it Joey. Facts.
lol you must be the weakest bitch around to think a couple words capped equates to being "angry". it's amusing how you weak fucks pat yourselves on the back because no one else will seeing how yall are friendless irl. tell your only friend momma hello for me racistWill. :tu
Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) the last 3 times I’ve ranted on this site about something Biden should be doing he’s started doing it so by arguing with you I’m largely just hoping the streak stays alive :lol
I don’t get why you get so defensive about it though. You can argue something without mocking or insulting your way through it. What is that about?
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:50 PM
lol you must be the weakest bitch around to think a couple words capped equates to being "angry". it's amusing how you weak fucks pat yourselves on the back because no one else will seeing how yall are friendless irl. tell your only friend momma hello for me racistWill. :tu
:lol once again Joey goes with the e-thug shtick. Kinda loses its luster when we know your a 140 lbs tweaker with calf tats
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:52 PM
I don’t get why you get so defensive about it though. You can argue something without mocking or insulting your way through it. What is that about?
I want Democrats to be as ruthless as Republicans are in bending rules and exerting power, and I instinctly don’t like hearing otherwise.
You’re right that it makes sense to follow guidelines during a pandemic, but Republicans have turned politics into a game of who’s willing to follow as few rules as possible.
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:52 PM
:lol once again Joey goes with the e-thug shtick. Kinda loses its luster when we know your a 140 lbs tweaker with calf tats
i might be skinny but i'm not 140lbs nor am i a tweaker you big fucking racist racistWill. as well, there's no e-thuggin going on; i'm just calling a spade a spade or better yet a weak ass racist a weak ass racist racistWill.
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:53 PM
who’s willing to follow as few rules as possible.
you're just a pussy racistWill.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:53 PM
i might be skinny but i'm not 140lbs nor am i a tweaker you big fucking racist racistWill. as well, there's no e-thuggin going on; i'm just calling a spade a spade or better yet a weak ass racist a weak ass racist racistWill.
:lol furiously typing “weak ass racist” twice in a fit of rage.
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:54 PM
:lol furiously typing “weak ass racist” twice in a fit of rage.
i type it because i can... we're on a messageboard you know that right racistWill? you furiously type cute takes on racist terms religiously around here but god forbid i call a weak ass racist like yourself out racistWill.
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 03:56 PM
i type it because i can... we're on a messageboard you know that right racistWill? you furiously type cute takes on racist terms religiously around here but god forbid i call a weak ass racist like yourself out racistWill.
You double typed it Joey. You’re so angry that you typed it once and then again because you have anger induced brain fog :lol
I want Democrats to be as ruthless as Republicans are in bending rules and exerting power, and I instinctly don’t like hearing otherwise.
You’re right that it makes sense to follow guidelines during a pandemic, but Republicans have turned politics into a game of who’s willing to follow as few rules as possible.
I dont disagree with that premise but you and I both know that's not going to happen.
Democrats have to always play the parent role.
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 03:59 PM
You double typed it Joey. You’re so angry that you typed it once and then again because you have anger induced brain fog :lol
guess it went right over your head racistWill... you can't see the forest from the trees huh?
you're dumb bro and it clearly shows. thanks for confirming your retardation you retarded racist racistWill. :tu
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 04:01 PM
I dont disagree with that premise but you and I both know that's not going to happen.
Democrats have to always play the parent role.
Yeah I just don’t give them the benefit of the doubt. They don’t “have to” play the parent role, they see it as a convenient role to play since it enables them to say :cry sorry guyz muh hands were tied by meanie Mitch :cry to working class Democrats while they also maintain the status quo their corporate overlords love. It almost seems like they prefer to have split power with Republicans since it’s easier excuse making.
Leetonidas
09-24-2020, 04:02 PM
lol says the psychos who cry out for mass mail-in ballots, abolishing the EC, etc... :lmao
oh and i believe trump is still waiting for hillary to accept the results of 2016. :lol
What you said literally has nothing to do with my point. Try again
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 04:04 PM
What you said literally has nothing to do with my point. Try again
cry some more leet
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 04:04 PM
guess it went right over your head racistWill... you can't see the forest from the trees huh?
you're dumb bro and it clearly shows. thanks for confirming your retardation you retarded racist racistWill. :tu
It’s see the the forest for the trees retard. There’s no forest to see either way though, you double typed an insult and now you’re trying to pretend you meant to :lol
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 04:06 PM
lmao i suck at cliche saying.... regardless you got it so it worked. :tu
nah my insult was "there's weak ass retards out there and well you're one of those weak ass retards"
you can decipher my fucked up cliche sayings but not the above? whatever...
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 04:07 PM
i meant racist, racistWill. :tu
Will Hunting
09-24-2020, 04:10 PM
lmao i suck at cliche saying.... regardless you got it so it worked. :tu
nah my insult was "there's weak ass retards out there and well you're one of those weak ass retards"
you can decipher my fucked up cliche sayings but not the above? whatever...
Here's what you said:
i'm just calling a spade a spade or better yet a weak ass racist a weak ass racist racistWill.
you wrote "a weak ass racist" twice as part of an incomprehensible sentence. Whatever the fuck you meant to say, you were either too angry or too uneducated to write it in fluent English :lol
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 04:13 PM
Here's what you said:
you wrote "a weak ass racist" twice as part of an incomprehensible sentence. Whatever the fuck you meant to say, you were either too angry or too uneducated to write it in fluent English :lol
i'm so fucking angry!!!!! ah hulk smash!!!!
as well, i never claimed to be some english scholar; i get by. just like i'm no mathematician i still get by.
ChumpDumper
09-24-2020, 04:13 PM
Unhinged, tbhNow do right wing media.
You think Trump is a great president.
You're a fool or just a bad person.
Probably both.
How many times will calf say racistwill within a single post?
koriwhat
09-24-2020, 04:34 PM
How many times will calf say racistwill within a single post?
are you crying again trannyReck?
Splits
09-24-2020, 05:22 PM
Probably as sad as "democrats" trying impeachment on a fake russia story tbqh
wtf? this is why nobody takes your arguments seriously, this is just flat out false.
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