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baseline bum
09-25-2020, 09:49 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/18/usps-covid-19-coronavirus-plan-to-send-every-household-face-masks-how-the-white-house-stopped-it
USPS Covid-19 Coronavirus Plan To Send Every Household Face Masks: Why The White House Stopped It
Bruce Y. Lee

Did you get those five reusable face masks through the United States Postal Service (USPS) back in April? You didn’t? Well, that was the USPS plan back then, according to Tony Romm, Jacob Bogage, and Lena H. Sun reporting for the Washington Post.

That’s based on a review of nearly 10,000 pages of federal emails, legal memos, presentations and other documents that watchdog group American Oversight had requested via the Freedom of Information Act. Included in the documents was a draft news release from the USPS about plans to distribute 650 million masks around the country. This would have amounted to around five face coverings per every American household. Not a bad plan given the fact that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent Covid-19 spread.

A news release meant that the plan was probably at its advanced stages. After all, you don’t tend to put together a press release until after you’re fairly sure something will happen. Otherwise, it would be a premature communication. Or a premature declaration. It would be a bit like preparing wedding announcements before even beginning to date someone. Or preparing buns when there are no hot dogs.

So why didn’t you get the masks? Because the plan never was fully implemented. Apparently the White House said something to the effect of “oh no you won’t” to the USPS. The Washington Post article quoted an administration official as saying, “There was concern from some in the White House Domestic Policy Council and the office of the vice president that households receiving masks might create concern or panic.” A concern about creating a concern? Now who would want to raise concern about a pandemic caused by a novel Covid-19 coronavirus that has now resulted over 198,000 deaths?

A news release meant that the plan was probably at its advanced stages. After all, you don’t tend to put together a press release until after you’re fairly sure something will happen. Otherwise, it would be a premature communication. Or a premature declaration. It would be a bit like preparing wedding announcements before even beginning to date someone. Or preparing buns when there are no hot dogs.

So why didn’t you get the masks? Because the plan never was fully implemented. Apparently the White House said something to the effect of “oh no you won’t” to the USPS. The Washington Post article quoted an administration official as saying, “There was concern from some in the White House Domestic Policy Council and the office of the vice president that households receiving masks might create concern or panic.” A concern about creating a concern? Now who would want to raise concern about a pandemic caused by a novel Covid-19 coronavirus that has now resulted over 198,000 deaths?

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As you can see, the second tweet corrects the “facemarks” typo to “facemasks.” A plan to deliver postmarks to people’s faces would have been quite a different story, although not a completely surprising one for 2020.

According to the Washington Post article, the face masks eventually went to critical infrastructure sectors, companies, healthcare facilities, faith-based and community organizations, and schools across the country via Project America Strong. But it’s not completely clear over what time frame that occurred and why that should have precluded sending every household masks in April.

Imagine how things may have been different had the USPS moved forward with the face mask plan. Would more people have gotten accustomed to wearing face masks earlier? How many transmissions and infections could have been prevented?

A study published in Health Affairs in June estimated that fifteen states plus Washington, D.C., issuing face mask mandates between April 8 and May 15, 2020, was correlated with over 200,000 fewer Covid-19 cases as of May 22, 2020:

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Of course, correlations and associations don’t prove cause-and-effect. But there are clear scientific reasons why face mask use could cut down the risk of you transmitting the virus to others.

Plus, would more widespread face mask use have done what the White House seemingly didn’t want to do: raise concern about the pandemic? If people had taken the pandemic more seriously, would they have taken social distancing and other prevention measures more seriously? Could this have prevented even more cases? Perhaps.

When it comes to the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic, you can’t just cover it up. Well, you can use a face mask to cover up your face, including your nose for Pete’s and everyone else’s sake. But you shouldn’t cover up the realities. During a public health emergency, you shouldn’t cover up what you “knows.” As of April, this virus had already proven that it can kill at a much higher rate than the flu. It also had already shown that it can cause suffering among those who survive the virus. The U.S. leads the other countries in the number of cases and deaths, which very super ultra strongly suggests that the national response has not been adequate. And those are problems that you can’t just mask.

hater
09-25-2020, 09:54 AM
Wait is this surgical masks or n95s?

If surgical... :lmao most ppm woulda jerked off on it or used it as toilet paper. It was too soon for ppl to even consider wearing masks. And surgical masks dont sgop prevention in closed spaces like offices, buses, restaurants, etc.

Of course I knew about masks early on and their efficiency but 99%(n95 ones) of ignorant americans didnt so it would basicqlly have been like giving a calculator to a gorilla and telling him to find the square root of 7 :lmao

hater
09-25-2020, 09:54 AM
Plus wasnt dear dr Fauci saying that masks dont work and might actually make things worse back then? :lmao

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 09:58 AM
Plus wasnt dear dr Fauci saying that masks dont work and might actually make things worse back then? :lmao

No, not in April

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:01 AM
Damn, hater can't go two posts without lying his ass off.

Happens to every poster who is a Trump supporter.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:02 AM
No, not in April

April was already too late. Plus not sure when he officially backtracked.

I dont see how sending 5 surgical masks to folks woulda prevented many deaths.

A much better strategy woulda been to educate ppl on mask wearing early on and NEVER had lied to them about masks being worse (fauci) and obviously tracing and regional shutdowns/quarantines that china used to control the pandemic

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:03 AM
Wait is this surgical masks or n95s?

If surgical... :lmao most ppm woulda jerked off on it or used it as toilet paper. It was too soon for ppl to even consider wearing masks. And surgical masks dont sgop prevention in closed spaces like offices, buses, restaurants, etc.

Of course I knew about masks early on and their efficiency but 99%(n95 ones) of ignorant americans didnt so it would basicqlly have been like giving a calculator to a gorilla and telling him to find the square root of 7 :lmao

You think everyone in Japan wears fucking N95 masks and not cheap masks from the grocery / drug store? Yet they can crowd onto subways trains in huge groups without having anywhere near the level of death we have had in our failed nation.

Bogie
09-25-2020, 10:03 AM
Plus wasnt dear dr Fauci saying that masks dont work and might actually make things worse back then? :lmao

vlad you’re really betraying yourself here. You are actually parroting rw talking points.

called it.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:04 AM
April was already too late. Plus not sure when he officially backtracked.

I dont see how sending 5 surgical masks to folks woulda prevented many deaths.

A much better strategy woulda been to educate ppl on mask wearing early on and NEVER had lied to them about masks being worse (fauci) and obviously tracing and regional shutdowns/quarantines that china used to control the pandemic

It would have saved a ton of lives if implemented in fucking June in Texas.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:06 AM
You think everyone in Japan wears fucking N95 masks and not cheap masks from the grocery / drug store? Yet they can crowd onto subways trains in huge groups without having anywhere near the level of death we have had in our failed nation.

Did a Japanese dr Fauci and his team tout for months that masks were worse?

hater
09-25-2020, 10:06 AM
It would have saved a ton of lives if implemented in fucking June in Texas.

So u think sending 5 masks in the mail is "implementing" something? :lmao

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:07 AM
Did a Japanese dr Fauci and his team tout for months that masks were worse?

Nope, and Dr Fauci didn't either. Not for "months" you lying motherfucker.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:08 AM
Nope, and Dr Fauci didn't either. Not for "months" you lying motherfucker.

Sorry he did. We already discussed this. Plenty video evidence.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:09 AM
So u think sending 5 masks in the mail is "implementing" something? :lmao

Are you fucking retarded seriously? Remember when you used to talk about the importance of masks? It was only nine posts back.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:09 AM
So u think sending 5 masks in the mail is "implementing" something? :lmao

Of course sending millions of masks through the USPS is implementing something.

:lol Trump got you saying masks bad now.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:10 AM
Sorry he did. We already discussed this. Plenty video evidence.

March 8 he said not to unless you were infected. April 2 he said Americans should be wearing them. That's not even one month.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:12 AM
You dissapoint me Baseline.


Fauci said US government held off promoting face masks because it knew shortages were so bad that even doctors couldn't get enough

January through March, as the spread of the disease became more and more serious, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention actively discouraged the use of masks among the general public.

By early April, simple cloth face coverings were recommended for the general public, instead of protective personal equipment such as surgical and N95 masks, The New York Times reported.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fauci-mask-advice-was-because-doctors-shortages-from-the-start-2020-6%3famp

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:12 AM
How is Biden not blasting the airwaves with this report constantly? This report right here shows why you can lay COVID-45 deaths directly onto Trump.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:14 AM
Never question hater bitches. From same article:

Fauci's comments echo those of Surgeon General Jerome Adams on March 2, when he said that the increased demand for masks was putting medical professionals at risk.

A few days earlier, he tweeted that masks were "not effective in preventing" COVID-19 in the general public, saying, "Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!" He later reversed his advice.

Fauci explained the early advice against masks by saying: "The public-health community — and many people were saying this — were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."

hater
09-25-2020, 10:14 AM
Fauci lied hes a big reason we are in this mask debacle.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:17 AM
Never question hater bitches. From same article:

Fauci's comments echo those of Surgeon General Jerome Adams on March 2, when he said that the increased demand for masks was putting medical professionals at risk.

A few days earlier, he tweeted that masks were "not effective in preventing" COVID-19 in the general public, saying, "Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!" He later reversed his advice.

Fauci explained the early advice against masks by saying: "The public-health community — and many people were saying this — were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."Here's 650 million free reusable cotton masks so you won't buy surgical and N95 masks.

That would've worked and you know it.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:19 AM
You dissapoint me Baseline.


January through March, as the spread of the disease became more and more serious, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention actively discouraged the use of masks among the general public.

By early April, simple cloth face coverings were recommended for the general public, instead of protective personal equipment such as surgical and N95 masks, The New York Times reported.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fauci-mask-advice-was-because-doctors-shortages-from-the-start-2020-6%3famp

So he never said it makes things worse. I guess you can hold onto the Feb 29th tweet from the Surgeon General telling people to quit buying masks so congrats. Always bad faith arguments from Trumptards though. Mask use was discouraged early on because hospitals didn't have sufficient PPE and they didn't want hoarding by the general public.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:20 AM
Fauci lied hes a big reason we are in this mask debacle.

Trump lied and is the main reason. Trump's the one who poisoned mask use for his death cult.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:21 AM
Here's 650 million free reusable cotton masks so you won't buy surgical and N95 masks.

That would've worked and you know it.

Disagree. Unless you implement a clear mask policy from start you wilm run into trouble.

The probles was never that pppl couldnt bjy masks or afford masks. The problem was always that there was NEVER a clear mask policy

hater
09-25-2020, 10:21 AM
Trump lied and is the main reason. Trump's the one who poisoned mask use for his death cult.

Agree. Glad you agree w my statement as well :tu

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:22 AM
Trump lied and is the main reason. Trump's the one who poisoned mask use for his death cult.A cult of which hater is now a dues-paying member.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:23 AM
Disagree. Unless you implement a clear mask policy from start you wilm run into trouble.So you're blaming Trump again.

I agree he's a failure.:tu

pgardn
09-25-2020, 10:25 AM
The I told you guys he is possibly the most abhorrent poster on this site.
he claims to be some sort of humanitarian and then totally backs Putin and Assad’s murders.

he at admires the tactics of dictators
Lavrov, a valuable subject in Putin’s total indifference to killing, is his hero and hater had that picture following him on every post.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:25 AM
So he never said it makes things worse. I guess you can hold onto the Feb 29th tweet from the Surgeon General telling people to quit buying masks so congrats. Always bad faith arguments from Trumptards though. Mask use was discouraged early on because hospitals didn't have sufficient PPE and they didn't want hoarding by the general public.


"ROLL THE TAPE!!!!"


https://twitter.com/djmixicon/status/1273936280263458816?s=19

hater
09-25-2020, 10:29 AM
https://twitter.com/MSMsucks_/status/1263339099110293517?s=19

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:31 AM
"ROLL THE TAPE!!!!"


https://twitter.com/djmixicon/status/1273936280263458816?s=19:lmao hater's trying to pass that off as Fauci's saying that in June.

Do you Trump supporters have a daily quota of lies you have to meet?

Must be the start of one of your tweet storms from nobodies.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:33 AM
"ROLL THE TAPE!!!!"


https://twitter.com/djmixicon/status/1273936280263458816?s=19

Wow back in early March Fauci thought fomite transmission was one of the major ways the virus was transmitted. Just like everyone else in the medical community did. Man you're fucking pathetic.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:34 AM
Nevertheless, Biden should be blanketing the airwaves with this report outlining how worthless American lives were and are to Trump.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 10:35 AM
Wow back in early March Fauci thought fomite transmission was one of the major ways the virus was transmitted. Just like everyone else in the medical community did. Man you're fucking pathetic.

He's got an acute case of TDS.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:35 AM
Wow back in early March Fauci thought fomite transmission was one of the major ways the virus was transmitted. Just like everyone else in the medical community did. Man you're fucking pathetic.

Glad to help you realize Fauci lies :tu will take you some time to go from denial/anger to understanding :tu

You still ma nig :tu

pgardn
09-25-2020, 10:37 AM
Nevertheless, Biden should be blanketing the airwaves with this report outlining how worthless American lives were and are to Trump.

A behavior hater pretended to abhor.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:41 AM
Glad to help you realize Fauci lies :tu will take you some time to go from denial/anger to understanding :tu

You still ma nig :tu

Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

pgardn
09-25-2020, 10:43 AM
Glad to help you realize Fauci lies :tu will take you some time to go from denial/anger to understanding :tu

You still ma nig :tu

You want an entire list of the number of mistakes scientists and politicians made early on?

Except the politicians dont CHANGE their models because they cant seen to be WRONG.
In fact they will try not to create panic, and then build a wall and claim hordes of South Americans are ready to cross. No panic...

If scientists are not wrong at some point in their career, they are worthless and have not been doing their job.
Fauci was wrong on numerous things about AIDS. But in the end he got it characterized properly and that is considered a HUGE accomplishment by everyone except the weird conspiracy twitter and youtube retards like yourself.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:43 AM
April 2nd

Fauci: "masks are not a bad idea"

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1245883011448672260?s=19


:lmao

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 10:44 AM
April 2nd

Fauci: "masks are not a bad idea"

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1245883011448672260?s=19


:lmao

Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 10:50 AM
Here's 650 million free reusable cotton masks so you won't buy surgical and N95 masks.

That would've worked and you know it.

But they were trying to avoid creating a panic to avoid a shortage of PPE - they did not want everyone in the country thinking they were gonna drop dead if they didn't get an n95 mask. At that time NYC and the entire tri-state area had a PPE shortage. That drives up the demand and the hospital workers are now without PPE and Joe blow from Idaho who has virtually no risk, has a whole shed full of them.

If you want to trash Trump for something, trash him for us being in that position in the 1st place. I don't buy his bare cupboard B.S. as he had been in office for 3 years. Can't throw that blame at Obama the way he has.

hater
09-25-2020, 10:58 AM
Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

Neither. I already said the problem was not that ppl didnt have access to masks. It was that there was never crystal clear mask policy from the start.

If you wannt bitch at Trump bitch about that and I will agree. But you will have to drag dr Fauci as well :lol

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 11:01 AM
Neither. I already said the problem was not that ppl didnt have access to masks. It was that there was never crystal clear mask policy from the start.

If you wannt bitch at Trump bitch about that and I will agree. But you will have to drag dr Fauci as well :lol

I get why Fauci waffled on masks. He was part of that whole effort to try and avoid panic which ultimately leads to an even worse n95 shortage.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:02 AM
But they were trying to avoid creating a panic to avoid a shortage of PPE - they did not want everyone in the country thinking they were gonna drop dead if they didn't get an n95 mask. At that time NYC and the entire tri-state area had a PPE shortage. That drives up the demand and the hospital workers are now without PPE and Joe blow from Idaho who has virtually no risk, has a whole shed full of them.Here's 650 million free reusable cotton masks so you won't buy surgical and N95 masks.

:lol you Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge anything.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:03 AM
Neither.:lmao plopped on det fence again

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 11:04 AM
Here's 650 million free reusable cotton masks so you won't buy surgical and N95 masks.

:lol you Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge anything.

You are completely missing the point I made. Or you are trolling.

hater
09-25-2020, 11:07 AM
I get why Fauci waffled on masks. He was part of that whole effort to try and avoid panic which ultimately leads to an even worse n95 shortage.

Disagree. They can easily ban sale of n95s to non medical peeps. And they did pretty quickly. Trust me I watched the n95 market since early Jan.

The good thing is that they cant do a damn thing about banning kn95 (chinese version which works as good) because CDC would never recommend kn95 for medical purposes.

And chinese kn95 production is a fucking beast. I can buy enough kn95s to swin in :lol

Oh and they are cheaper than n95 :lol

Thank God for the Chinese Empire :tu

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:07 AM
You are completely missing the point I made. Or you are trolling.Gee, how could they prevent a panic run on N95 masks....

How about sending out 650 million free cotton masks via the USPS?

hater
09-25-2020, 11:07 AM
You are completely missing the point I made. Or you are trolling.

Lol chump hes having a rough day :lmao

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:09 AM
Disagree. They can easily ban sale of n95s to non medical peeps. And they did pretty quickly. Trust me I watched the n95 market since early Jan.

The good thing is that they cant do a damn thing about banning kn95 (chinese version which works as good) because CDC would never recommend kn95 for medical purposes.

And chinese kn95 production is a fucking beast. I can buy enough kn95s to swin in :lol

Oh and they are cheaper than n95 :lol

Thank God for the Chinese Empire :tuYou have to fashion a head strap to get a proper seal and then pray they're actually built to spec, but it's better than nothing.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:10 AM
Lol chump hes having a rough day :lmao:lmao hater's lying as much as tholdren now.

hater
09-25-2020, 11:24 AM
You have to fashion a head strap to get a proper seal and then pray they're actually built to spec, but it's better than nothing.

Sure an n95 respirator will have more protection. I do have a stash for when I might need to fly or be in confided closed public places for hours.

But how practical are they for daily activities? Not very. Kn95 offer protection to you plus are not as unconfortable. And cheaper.

Best of both worlds tbqh

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 11:26 AM
Neither. I already said the problem was not that ppl didnt have access to masks. It was that there was never crystal clear mask policy from the start.

If you wannt bitch at Trump bitch about that and I will agree. But you will have to drag dr Fauci as well :lol

Bullshit answer. Pick one or the other. Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

hater
09-25-2020, 11:30 AM
Bullshit answer. Pick one or the other. Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

Does it say how much it woulda cost? I would have to look at the cost/benefit ratio. If too much $ that coulda been used elsewhere.

In the 3nd this is just a footnote in the book. For the reasons I explained.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 11:31 AM
Does it say how much it woulda cost? I would have to look at the cost/benefit ratio. If too much $ that coulda been used elsewhere.

In the 3nd this is just a footnote in the book. For the reasons I explained.

Another bullshit answer. Pick one or the other. Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:34 AM
Imagine if Bobby fucking Bandito did a national spot for the USPS in April saying "Trump's got your back. Your masks are in the mail!"

https://media.kiiitv.com/assets/KVUE/images/0a74bc3e-ad68-4176-ad65-bf1bd2231995/0a74bc3e-ad68-4176-ad65-bf1bd2231995_1140x641.png

We could be starting to take them off by now.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 11:38 AM
Imagine if Bobby fucking Bandito did a national spot for the USPS in April saying "Trump's got your back. Your masks are in the mail!"

https://media.kiiitv.com/assets/KVUE/images/0a74bc3e-ad68-4176-ad65-bf1bd2231995/0a74bc3e-ad68-4176-ad65-bf1bd2231995_1140x641.png

We could be starting to take them off by now.

Agreed except for the taking them off part. Probably won't be taking them off for another year.

SnakeBoy
09-25-2020, 11:41 AM
We could be starting to take them off by now.

Is that what is happening to Europe right now?

hater
09-25-2020, 11:41 AM
Its fun to play fantasy land :lol

Tell me one country in the world where masks are off

hater
09-25-2020, 11:41 AM
Another bullshit answer. Pick one or the other. Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

Ill quote Dear Dr Fauci then:
"It was probably not a bad idea" :lol

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:43 AM
Is that what is happening to Europe right now?Darrin said the virus is out of fuel there.

You guys need to decide what agenda you're going to push today.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:46 AM
Great, there would've been tens of thousands fewer deaths then but we'd still be wearing the free masks from April.

:lol you guys are trying really hard to justify the Trump murders.

hater
09-25-2020, 11:51 AM
Great, there would've been tens of thousands fewer deaths then but we'd still be wearing the free masks from April.

:lol you guys are trying really hard to justify the Trump murders.

A whole lot of bullshit in this post.

Where is the study that people would have actually worn the masks supplied? Where is the study that out of the people that actually wore them how many lives woulda been saved?

And you mean to say we all would be reusing 5 miserable surgical masks for 5 months? :lol nigas would be walking around looking like used tampons :lmao


Its fun to play fantasy land :lmao

hater
09-25-2020, 11:52 AM
but Darrin said...

Lol chump

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:53 AM
A whole lot of bullshit in this post.

Where is the study that people would have actually worn the masks supplied? Where is the study that out of the people that actually wore them how many lives woulda been saved?

And you mean to say we all would be reusing 5 miserable surgical masks for 5 months? :lol nigas would be walking around looking like used tampons :lmao


Its fun to play fantasy land :lmao:lmao hater demands fantasy hypothtical studies for a giveaway that never happened and we just found out about.

And lies about the masks that would've shipped.

TDS got you good

clambake
09-25-2020, 11:56 AM
I’d like to hear haters new role in rigging the election

hater
09-25-2020, 11:59 AM
:lmao hater demands fantasy hypothtical studies for a giveaway that never happened and we just found out about.

And lies about the masks that would've shipped.

TDS got you good

Oh so your "tens of thousands fewer deaths" was pulled out of your ass

Thanks for clarifying :lol

hater
09-25-2020, 11:59 AM
I’d like to hear haters new role in rigging the election

Id like to hear an opinion from you.

Someday :lol

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 11:59 AM
Oh so your "tens of thousands fewer deaths" was pulled out of your ass

Thanks for clarifying :lolWhy did you lie about the masks being surgical masks, hater?

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 12:00 PM
Ill quote Dear Dr Fauci then:
"It was probably not a bad idea" :lol

So good or bad? Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:03 PM
Oh so your "tens of thousands fewer deaths" was pulled out of your ass

Thanks for clarifying :lol
Analysis shows requiring masks for public-facing U.S. business employees on April 1 would have saved tens of thousands of lives.
(https://news.mit.edu/2020/masks-mandates-impact-deaths-0805)

:lmao hater

You're welcome.

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 12:03 PM
At the height of this, even the KN95's were not easy to get as hospitals and first responders were forced to search for them.

And so many of them were shit...tested afterwards and more like kn35 :lol


Disagree. They can easily ban sale of n95s to non medical peeps. And they did pretty quickly. Trust me I watched the n95 market since early Jan.

The good thing is that they cant do a damn thing about banning kn95 (chinese version which works as good) because CDC would never recommend kn95 for medical purposes.

And chinese kn95 production is a fucking beast. I can buy enough kn95s to swin in :lol

Oh and they are cheaper than n95 :lol

Thank God for the Chinese Empire :tu

ducks
09-25-2020, 12:04 PM
Damn, hater can't go two posts without lying his ass off.

Happens to every poster who is a Trump supporter.
Oh really trump can do not right and is king not president according to you

hater
09-25-2020, 12:05 PM
Analysis shows requiring masks for public-facing U.S. business employees on April 1 would have saved tens of thousands of lives.
(https://news.mit.edu/2020/masks-mandates-impact-deaths-0805)

:lmao hater

You're welcome.

Now show the analysis of how many peeps woulda actually worn them. :lol

ducks
09-25-2020, 12:05 PM
So good or bad? Trump nixed a USPS plan to send 5 masks to every household in the United State in April. Good or bad?


Do you really need the government to give you mask ?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:06 PM
Now show the analysis of how many peeps woulda actually worn them. :lol:lmao hater has to move the goalpost for Trump

Rough day for you, hater.

You're welcome.:lol

hater
09-25-2020, 12:06 PM
At the height of this, even the KN95's were not easy to get as hospitals and first responders were forced to search for them.

And so many of them were shit...tested afterwards and more like kn35 :lol

Agreed. China upped the production like a mofo at around April. I agree Feb and March were tough all around

CDC has kn95 recommendations for non med use tbqh. Been there since march

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 12:07 PM
Gee, how could they prevent a panic run on N95 masks....

How about sending out 650 million free cotton masks via the USPS?

And you believe these panicking azz people, who wiped out the toilet paper and lysol supply for the next 6 months would have not been alarmed by receiving cloth type masks in the mail? Masks they don't offer enough protection for the user? Something that anyone with an internet connection can discover. Suuuuurrrre :lol

ducks
09-25-2020, 12:07 PM
Analysis shows requiring masks for public-facing U.S. business employees on April 1 would have saved tens of thousands of lives.
(https://news.mit.edu/2020/masks-mandates-impact-deaths-0805)

:lmao hater

You're welcome.



So the death count that actually is 6 percent of what they reported that was just covid
Mask would have saved thousands ?
Lol


Again is it the mask or is it the 6 feet that is important ?

ducks
09-25-2020, 12:08 PM
More people got the swine flu
Why no mask then ?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:09 PM
And you believe these panicking azz people, who wiped out the toilet paper and lysol supply for the next 6 months would have not been alarmed by receiving cloth type masks in the mail? Masks they don't offer enough protection for the user? Something that anyone with an internet connection can discover. Suuuuurrrre :lol:lmao the masks that most people are wearing now?

:lmao Trump supporters

:lmao "alarmed"

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 12:19 PM
Again, slam Trump and yall's hero, Fauci, for not having clear, consistent message on general face coverings from the beginning. You have an actual point when you go that route. You don't deliver a bunch of face coverings at the height of this with all the craze and conflicting information out there. By May I think it would have been more plausible.



:lmao the masks that most people are wearing now?

:lmao Trump supporters

:lmao "alarmed"

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:21 PM
Again, slam Trump and yall's hero, Fauci, for not having clear, consistent message on general face coverings from the beginning. You have an actual point when you go that route. You don't deliver a bunch of face coverings at the height of this with all the craze and conflicting information out there. By May I think it would have been more plausible.Of course you send out the masks as soon as possible and have Trump tell everyone to wear them and why.

You don't wait for thousands more to die.

Ever.

This is indefensible.

hater
09-25-2020, 12:21 PM
Again, slam Trump and yall's hero, Fauci, for not having clear, consistent message on general face coverings from the beginning. You have an actual point when you go that route. You don't deliver a bunch of face coverings at the height of this with all the craze and conflicting information out there. By May I think it would have been more plausible.

:tu agreed

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:22 PM
:tu agreedWhy did you lie about the masks, hater?

Dirks_Finale
09-25-2020, 12:23 PM
Nanny state lovers :lol

Save me government, please save me from myself. :lol


Do you really need the government to give you mask ?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:24 PM
Nanny state lovers :lol

Save me government, please save me from myself. :lolWhy are you laughing about 200k dead?

Why is all this so funny to you?

ducks
09-25-2020, 12:31 PM
Why are you laughing about 200k dead?

Why is all this so funny to you?

200k female babies died this month in USA where is your outrage
You think that is funny

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:33 PM
200k female babies died this month in USA where is your outrage
You think that is funnyI'm going to laugh at this tired attempt to change the subject.

:lol

clambake
09-25-2020, 12:37 PM
Id like to hear an opinion from you.

Someday :lol
My opinion is you support corruption.

Bogie
09-25-2020, 12:40 PM
Lol chump hes having a rough day :lmao

you have been shit on from every direction. You can try to play it off. But it kills you.

called it

Bogie
09-25-2020, 12:42 PM
200k female babies died this month in USA where is your outrage
You think that is funny

if you’re so concerned about life, why support torturing children on border. Why do you support forced hysterectomies on women at the border?

why are you such a piece of shit of a person

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 12:45 PM
If you want to trash Trump for something, trash him for us being in that position in the 1st place. I don't buy his bare cupboard B.S. as he had been in office for 3 years. Can't throw that blame at Obama the way he has.
This 100%. The big Trump failure is how unprepared we were. The richest country in the world should have stockpiles of PPE that can be deployed in a matter of days in the event of a pandemic.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 12:50 PM
This 100%. The big Trump failure is how unprepared we were. The richest country in the world should have stockpiles of PPE that can be deployed in a matter of days in the event of a pandemic.That's on Trump and congressional Republicans who refused to replenish the national stockpile after H1N1.

hater
09-25-2020, 12:52 PM
My opinion is you support corruption.

You support Biden right.

Right back at ya feller :lol

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 12:55 PM
That's on Trump and congressional Republicans who refused to replenish the national stockpile after H1N1.
Of course. I didn't read through the rest of this thread so I'm not sure what the context of Dirks_Finale's post was, but Trump's administration being so unprepared for this was the catalyst behind all the other fuck-ups.

clambake
09-25-2020, 01:03 PM
You support Biden right.

Right back at ya feller :lol
If he was corrupt, Barr would’ve taken him down by now

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 01:03 PM
Do you really need the government to give you mask ?

Another Trumptard who can't answer a simple fucking question.

baseline bum
09-25-2020, 01:04 PM
Nanny state lovers :lol

Save me government, please save me from myself. :lol

Trumptards instead prefer to get fucked by their government

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 01:05 PM
Trump supporters: "He's a master salesman who can Art of the Deal any policy he chooses!"

Also Trump supporters: "You can't expect Trump supporters to listen to Trump! We're out of control! We panic!"

SnakeBoy
09-25-2020, 01:21 PM
Great, there would've been tens of thousands fewer deaths then but we'd still be wearing the free masks from April.


I offered you free masks in April. You wanted N95's :lol

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 01:22 PM
I offered you free masks in April. You wanted N95's :lol:lol another desperate subject change attempt.

I never asked for any N95s from anyone.

Or any masks.

At all.

Why do you Trump supporters have to lie about everything?

SnakeBoy
09-25-2020, 01:23 PM
Darrin said the virus is out of fuel there.

You guys need to decide what agenda you're going to push today.

Darrin is wrong. So are you. Covid is here to stay.

hater
09-25-2020, 01:27 PM
I offered you free masks in April. You wanted N95's :lol

:lmao chump

hater
09-25-2020, 01:27 PM
If he was corrupt, Barr would’ve taken him down by now

You think Barr is not corrupt?

:lmao wow

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 01:29 PM
:lmao chumpWhy did you lie about the masks that would've been sent out, hater?

clambake
09-25-2020, 01:38 PM
You think Barr is not corrupt?

:lmao wow

He’s absolutely corrupt, but they got nothing on biden

You don’t get that

Wow

hater
09-25-2020, 01:43 PM
He’s absolutely corrupt, but they got nothing on biden

You don’t get that

Wow

Trump wasnt taken down by Mueller. Another one not corrupt. Correct?

clambake
09-25-2020, 02:03 PM
Trump wasnt taken down by Mueller. Another one not corrupt. Correct?

That’s ancient history. Trump is trying to rig the election as we speak. Correct?

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 02:05 PM
Trump wasnt taken down by Mueller. Another one not corrupt. Correct?

Because Mueller and Barr have the same power to "take someone down."

:lmao

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 02:06 PM
Hater's had some disastrous threads before but this one might take the cake.

hater
09-25-2020, 02:24 PM
That’s ancient history. Trump is trying to rig the election as we speak. Correct?

So until recently, Trump is not corrupt correct?

hater
09-25-2020, 02:25 PM
Hater's had some disastrous threads before but this one might take the cake.

This is baselines thread.

:lmao you dont even know where you are posting :lmao

clambake
09-25-2020, 02:29 PM
So until recently, Trump is not corrupt correct?

Nope. My opinion all along is to take a little look-see at those cooked books of his.

Money laundering and fraud

hater
09-25-2020, 02:31 PM
Nope. My opinion all along is to take a little look-see at those cooked books of his.

Money laundering and fraud

Agree. And I think this applies to Biden and sons. :tu

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 02:32 PM
This is baselines thread.

:lmao you dont even know where you are posting :lmao

You have the most posts in this thread, and basically every other post in this thread is someone shitting all over you.

It's yours now.

hater
09-25-2020, 02:39 PM
You have the most posts in this thread, and basically every other post in this thread is someone shitting all over you.

It's yours now.

Goal post position + 300 yards

Oh and im pretty sure someone else has more posts. His name rhymes with Trumper :lol

ducks
09-25-2020, 02:40 PM
if you’re so concerned about life, why support torturing children on border. Why do you support forced hysterectomies on women at the border?

why are you such a piece of shit of a person

The USA has only so many jobs
People coming illegally is dangerous for the legal USA kids

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 02:43 PM
Goal post position + 300 yards

Oh and im pretty sure someone else has more posts. His name rhymes with Trumper :lolYou're currently 7 posts ahead of me.:tu

hater
09-25-2020, 02:43 PM
You're currently 7 posts ahead of me.:tu

:lmao imagine having to count posts in a thread :lmao

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 02:45 PM
:lmao imagine having to count posts in a thread :lmaoNo one has to count anything.

Imagine not knowing that after SR21 spoon fed you.:lmao

hater
09-25-2020, 02:50 PM
No one has to count anything.
o

You just did :lmao

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 02:51 PM
You just did :lmaoNo, I clicked a link.

You seriously still don't know how to do it. :rollin

Bogie
09-25-2020, 02:54 PM
The USA has only so many jobs
People coming illegally is dangerous for the legal USA kids

none of that answered the questions.

why do you support torturing children, and forced hysterectomies?

i get you’re really stupid. But if you’re concerned about abortion (we all know you’re not), why are you cool with brown babies being tortured, and forced hysterectomies?

spurraider21
09-25-2020, 02:57 PM
:lmao imagine having to count posts in a thread :lmao
https://i.gyazo.com/e4f60b284680fae88d51b55728167a0c.png

hater
09-25-2020, 03:04 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/e4f60b284680fae88d51b55728167a0c.png

How do you get the difference between 2 numbers?

Imagine having to count posts in a thread :lmao

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 03:05 PM
Goal post position + 300 yards

Nope. I said "Hater's had some disastrous threads," not "Hater's started some disastrous threads."

You're a participant in this thread.

It's not going well for you.

You're having a disastrous thread.


Oh and im pretty sure someone else has more posts. His name rhymes with Trumper :lol

Shit on again. Completely avoidable too. :lmao :lmao

hater
09-25-2020, 03:05 PM
No, I clicked a link.

You seriously still don't know how to do it. :rollin

And then you counted :lmao

Imagine having to count posts in a thread :lol

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 03:05 PM
How do you get the difference between 2 numbers?

Imagine having to count posts in a thread :lmao

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 03:06 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lol Trumptards think simple subtraction is hard work

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 03:06 PM
How do you get the difference between 2 numbers?:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

spurraider21
09-25-2020, 03:08 PM
imagine seeing 2 numbers and having to sit down and think about which one is bigger :lmao

clambake
09-25-2020, 03:08 PM
And then you counted :lmao

Imagine having to count posts in a thread :lol
Geez hater, did you not get the spoon feeding just now?

hater
09-25-2020, 03:10 PM
You're currently 7 posts ahead of me.:tu

Busted :lol

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 03:11 PM
And then you counted :lmao

Imagine having to count posts in a thread :lol
Here ya go, didn't need to count it:

Now 9 posts :lol

https://i.ibb.co/qJWkMxM/Trumptards-Cant-Do-Math.png

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 03:12 PM
Here ya go, didn't need to count it:

Now 9 posts :lol

https://i.ibb.co/qJWkMxM/Trumptards-Cant-Do-Math.png:lmao hater

spurraider21
09-25-2020, 03:12 PM
Here ya go, didn't need to count it:

Now 9 posts :lol

https://i.ibb.co/qJWkMxM/Trumptards-Cant-Do-Math.png
:lmao imagine having to subtract 32 from 41. did you have to bust our your abacus, bro?

Spurminator
09-25-2020, 03:12 PM
Normal person with education level above the 2nd grade:
"41 is a higher number than 32"

Trumpfag:
"NEERRRRRRD!!!"

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 03:13 PM
I can also promise you that I didn't need to count the numbers "41" and "32" out on an abacus to determine that the difference between them is 9 :lol

Will Hunting
09-25-2020, 03:13 PM
:lmao imagine having to subtract 32 from 41. did you have to bust our your abacus, bro?


I can also promise you that I didn't need to count the numbers "41" and "32" out on an abacus to determine that the difference between them is 9 :lol
:lol you beat me to that joke

spurraider21
09-25-2020, 03:13 PM
Normal person with education level above the 2nd grade:
"41 is a higher number than 32"

Trumpfag:
"NEERRRRRRD!!!"
the list already puts them in order too

apparently seeing whose name comes before who is tough work

spurraider21
09-25-2020, 03:14 PM
:lol you beat me to that joke
hive mind

you hate to see it

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 03:21 PM
Here ya go, didn't need to count it:

Now 9 posts :lol

https://i.ibb.co/qJWkMxM/Trumptards-Cant-Do-Math.png


the list already puts them in order too

apparently seeing whose name comes before who is tough work


https://media1.tenor.com/images/94ebc8bc400ca9499eba85fd6868ba8d/tenor.gif

hater
09-25-2020, 03:28 PM
You're currently 7 posts ahead of me.:tu

Some counting was involved in that post.

Sorry chump. Busted :lmao

ChumpDumper
09-25-2020, 03:32 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/94ebc8bc400ca9499eba85fd6868ba8d/tenor.gif

Bogie
09-25-2020, 03:34 PM
Jesus hater you’re just getting abused here. Drago didn’t beat Apollo Creed as hard as you’re taking it here.

called it.

pgardn
09-25-2020, 03:44 PM
This is what happens when you dont have a bunch of Trumptards as an audience.
Things get so difficult for idiots like hater.

pgardn
09-25-2020, 03:54 PM
...

hater
09-25-2020, 04:05 PM
PbfIehmlZ8g

Youcountedperiod

koriwhat
09-25-2020, 04:12 PM
This is what happens when you dont have a bunch of Trumptards as an audience.
Things get so difficult for idiots like hater.

i can't wait for more attacks on trump's supporters ending in another trump victory. it's going to be so grand watching all the sjw's weep endlessly once again!

yall progressives do it to yourselves tbh and i couldn't be more grateful for it. :tu