***Official Donald Trump Tax Returns Thread***

[ChumpDumper]

Trump
Should
Fire
His
Account
He
Had
To
Pay
750
In
Taxes

If New York Times
Does
Not

LieHow does one fire an account?

[pgardn]

Nah, your wife is free.

free for only me.

Yes.

You rent yours out pimpMC?

[benefactor]

Trump
Should
Fire
His
Account
He
Had
To
Pay
750
In
Taxes

If New York Times
Does
Not

Lie
What?:lol

[Will Hunting]

What kind of chemicals do you think ducks' mom ingested when she was pregnant with him? It must have been a special cocktail of bleach, meth and bath salts.

[pgardn]

What?:lol

Ive learned Duck.

Its all the accountants fault.
Accountant takes the fall on this one. And all the other years as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Ive learned Duck.

Its all the accountants fault.
Accountant takes the fall on this one. And all the other years as well.Which accountant though?

The one who said Trump made $400,000,000+ in a year recorded in his public financial statement?

Or the one who said he lost $40,000,000+ the same year in his tax return?

[pgardn]

Which accountant though?

The one who said Trump made $400,000,000+ in a year recorded in his public financial statement?

Or the one who said he lost $40,000,000+ the same year in his tax return?

Hell if I know.
All of them.
Anyone but him, he just signed ya know.
And the real estate evaluations, how they went up when its time to sell or use them for a loan, and how they depreciated when taxes were due... those guys who did the evaluations as well. Even though Trump is the expert... (Sorry thats only militarily and understanding the virus quickly and thoroughly)

[GB20]

What kind of chemicals do you think ducks' mom ingested when she was pregnant with him? It must have been a special cocktail of bleach, meth and bath salts.
Maybe he listened to Trump and injected some Lysol.

[ducks]

Anyone who pays more taxes than legally owed is an idiot.

[Nathan89]

:lol Trump could get caught fucking a farm animal in the Oval Office and you'd call it a nothingburger

Trump would have released these returns on his own if this was a nothingburger.

As you can see the left can turn a nothingburger into a big ordeal. That doesn't change what it is though. It's still reason enough to not be transparent with them.

[Will Hunting]

As you can see the left can turn a nothingburger into a big ordeal. That doesn't change what it is though. It's still reason enough to not be transparent with them.
It’s reason to ignore precedent and hide tax returns from the American people? Trumptards manufacture a justification for pretty much everything.

[ducks]

Why so tax returns when not required
He showed other paperwork
Tax returns user audit should not be made public

[pgardn]

Anyone who pays more taxes than legally owed is an idiot.

K

How about people who cheat on their taxes?

Smart guys? Yes Mr. Mallard?

[pgardn]

As you can see the left can turn a nothingburger into a big ordeal. That doesn't change what it is though. It's still reason enough to not be transparent with them.

He is your god.
Understood.

"I was not very transparent because..."
"I fckn lie my ass off continually because I can."

Feel free to juggle the two above when necessary.

[Chris]

Imagine what amounts are NOT known?

Any foreign govt who has kompromat on the traitor - knows 100% how to get money to trump team

WITHOUT leaving a trail like what is on the NYT reporting.

Just think how much a greedy self-serving con man got from the saudis, emiratis, russians, etc...

imagine the pee pee tapes

[Chris]

I seen this movie in 2016.

:lmao Two derp's narratives with one stone. :lmao

let them have their fun poor sods :lol

[ElNono]

It’s reason to ignore precedent and hide tax returns from the American people? Trumptards manufacture a justification for pretty much everything.

He's been suing for 4 years to hide this nothingburger :lmao

[Reck]

let them have their fun poor sods :lol

It's hard to see you like this, son.

Take a nap.

[baseline bum]

https://i.imgur.com/o4Y1G1V.png

[Winehole23]

they all do it

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[Spurtacular]

He's been suing for 4 years to hide this nothingburger :lmao

I wouldn't say it's a nothing burger (like Russiagate).
But every thing is relative.
You got a guy who blackmailed Ukraine with taxpayer money on behalf of his son as his opponent.

[Spurtacular]

https://i.imgur.com/o4Y1G1V.png

No sweating here. I'd punch both buttons, no problem. :lmao

Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) koriwhat (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=10674) DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665)

[spurraider21]

No sweating here. I'd punch both buttons, no problem. :lmao

Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) koriwhat (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=10674) DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665)
it's literally a "choose one" meme

obviously hypocrites would want to push both buttons every time somebody makes one of these memes :lol... thats the whole point

[ElNono]

I wouldn't say it's a nothing burger (like Russiagate).
But every thing is relative.
You got a guy who blackmailed Ukraine with taxpayer money on behalf of his son as his opponent.

what? can you unpack that?

IIRC, he threatened to withhold the funds if a prosecutor that didn't want to investigate corruption wasn't fired.

I certainly wouldn't doubt Joe being in fishy shit, he's indeed a bullshitter, but the fact that not a single lawsuit has been filed or case has been opened about that Ukraine situation makes me think it has no legs (or evidence).

Sorta weird considering this administration certainly could have, and they promised to drain the swamp, tbh

[Spurtacular]

it's literally a "choose one" meme

obviously hypocrites would want to push both buttons every time somebody makes one of these memes :lol... thats the whole point

Yea, I shat on the meme. Try to keep up, Lite.

[Spurtacular]

he threatened to withhold the funds if a prosecutor wasn't fired.

Unpacked.


I certainly wouldn't doubt Joe being in fishy shit, he's indeed a bullshitter, but the fact that not a single lawsuit has been filed or case has been opened about that Ukraine situation makes me think it has no legs (or evidence).

Joe confessed to the misdeed. There's nothing to doubt.


Sorta weird considering this [Trump] administration certainly could have, and they promised to drain the swamp, tbh

*Ding

[Dirks_Finale]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.


He's been suing for 4 years to hide this nothingburger :lmao

[Will Hunting]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.
Him trying to take healthcare away from people with no replacement hurts him (and Republican senators for that matter) a lot too. That stunt they tried to pull in 2017 made Obamacare a lot more popular than it was before.

[Will Hunting]

:lol the NYT isn't done leaking stuff, it's gonna be drip drip drip between now and election day. You're premature ejaculating by declaring there's no Russia connection.
:lmao sure enough, newest NYT article released at midnight yesterday...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/28/us/donald-trump-taxes-apprentice.html


Bayrock proposed to bring the Trump brand to hotels around the country and overseas, where Mr. Trump’s flamboyant taste for gold and glitz played well among wealthy foreigners with a caricatured notion of American success.

Years later, in a lawsuit deposition, Mr. Trump said that he discussed “numerous deals all over the world” with his new partners, and that “this was going to be Trump International Hotel and Tower Moscow, Kyiv, Istanbul, etc., Poland, Warsaw.”


At the same time, Mr. Trump asserted that because he was not actually the developer, he knew very little about what Bayrock was doing just two floors below his office. But internal Bayrock documents reviewed by The Times show that the company, right from the start, went looking for financing from Russia to pay for its Trump-branded hotels.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Seventy-Three-Million-Dollar Tax Refund Is the Biggest Outrage of All

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f72051e29d4f76ce0c9d815/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Cassidy-Trump2010TaxRefund.jpg
To avoid paying taxes, the President has exploited his many business failures, including losses of more than three hundred million dollars from his fifteen golf courses since 2000.

we’ve known for a long time that the President is a serial tax avoider.

Between 1984 and 2004, he used actual losses, loss write-downs from previous years, and other accounting dodges to pay virtually nothing in federal income taxes.

he did finally pay about seventy million dollars to the Internal Revenue Service. But then, in 2010, he demanded a full refund for those tax payments.

And the I.R.S. acceded to his request: it paid him $72.9 million, including interest.

Trump “could not believe how stupid the government was for giving someone like him that much money back.”

In the late nineteen-eighties and early nineteen-nineties,

Trump’s businesses, some of which he had greatly overpaid for when he bought them,

racked up more than a billion dollars in losses (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-business-failures-were-very-real), and

four of them ended up filing for bankruptcy: three casinos in Atlantic City and his Plaza Hotel, in New York.

In 1995, as he emerged from this wreckage, he declared a tax loss of more than nine hundred million dollars,

which the I.R.S. allowed him to use in subsequent years as an offset against any profits his businesses made.

So even in years when the Trump Organization did well, his loss carryovers reduced his tax bill to zero.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-seventy-three-million-dollar-tax-refund-is-the-biggest-outrage-of-all (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-seventy-three-million-dollar-tax-refund-is-the-biggest-outrage-of-all?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_092820&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&mbid=mbid%3DCRMNYR012019&utm_term=TNY_Daily)

[pgardn]

Yea, I shat on the meme. Try to keep up, Lite.

so you don’t pay taxes either.
that’s cool.
don’t you dare let me catch you on the interstate highway I have paid for.

[pgardn]

Derp is a welfare queen.

[Bogie]

Derp is a welfare queen.

he’s admitted to being on disability.

But it was done in the most pathetic derp way possible. He claimed there wasn’t systematic racism because black and brown people get the same amount of disability as he does.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1310796634633232384?s=19

:lol

[hater]

Sad thing is the american oligarchs all do this sqme think Dump does.

Thats why america is a fake "democracy" its more a corporate for war oligarchy

[Will Hunting]

Sad thing is the american oligarchs all do this sqme think Dump does.

Thats why america is a fake "democracy" its more a corporate for war oligarchy
You'd like to think these tax returns would make Americans realize that we've got a huge problem with a tax system that allows the megarich to use huge fiat losses to offset actual tax liability and pay nothing, but not a chance that's a takeaway from this.

If Trump loses we'll just have the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Pelosi arguing to keep the same loopholes Trump uses in place, because they're from the same oligarch class that wants to avoid paying taxes.

[hater]

You'd like to think these tax returns would make Americans realize that we've got a huge problem with a tax system that allows the megarich to use huge fiat losses to offset actual tax liability and pay nothing, but not a chance that's a takeaway from this.

If Trump loses we'll just have the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Pelosi arguing to keep the same loopholes Trump uses in place, because they're from the same oligarch class that wants to avoid paying taxes.

Yup. This is just coming out for the debate. Remember NYT already said they have 2 more stories coming up. 2 debates after today.

Drip drip drip


If Trump loses this will be swept under the rug to avoid any scrutiny on other US oligarchs

[Will Hunting]

Yup. This is just coming out for the debate. Remember NYT already said they have 2 more stories coming up. 2 debates after today.

Drip drip drip


If Trump loses this will be swept under the rug to avoid any scrutiny on other US oligarchs
I don't think it's just 2 more stories.

NYT already released more details at midnight last night. They've been sitting on these tax returns for months, and I bet the plan is for a daily helping of Trump tax return news between now and election day, with the more salacious details being saved for mid-to-late October.

I also have a hunch they're going to release the documents but they want to catch Trump in as many lies as they can before.

Our only hope is the establishment Dems being scared of progressive primaries in 2022. AOC has already scared the shit out of Schumer with a potential 2022 senate run, there needs to be 50 more primary threats just like that.

[hater]

I don't think it's just 2 more stories.

NYT already released more details at midnight last night. They've been sitting on these tax returns for months, and I bet the plan is for a daily helping of Trump tax return news between now and election day, with the more salacious details being saved for mid-to-late October.

I also have a hunch they're going to release the documents but they want to catch Trump in as many lies as they can before.

Our only hope is the establishment Dems being scared of progressive primaries in 2022. AOC has already scared the shit out of Schumer with a potential 2022 senate run, there needs to be 50 more primary threats just like that.

Welm Im glad u acknowledge this being an organized operation by NYT and others :tu

Sadly wether its succesful or not no other oligarchs will be affected and the tax scam will continue

[Will Hunting]

Welm Im glad u acknowledge this being an organized operation by NYT and others :tu

Sadly wether its succesful or not no other oligarchs will be affected and the tax scam will continue
Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to fuck with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

[hater]

Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to fuck with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?

[Will Hunting]

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?
I don't see why waiting for the debates makes them more or less impartial. There's no journalistic duty to release a story as soon as humanly possible, journalists sit on stuff all the time. They wanted to release the story such that it was front and center in everyone's thoughts when they would be casting their votes.

The only reason this is now just a story to begin with is because Trump wanted to buck the trend of presidents releasing their tax returns and has spent the last 4 years fighting in court tooth and nail to prevent their release. He brought this on himself.

[RandomGuy]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.

We knew he was not successful already.

What will be interesting though are the details of the loans he used to stay afloat.

No one, and I mean no one, wanted to loan him money, until Deutsche Bank wanted to grow at any cost, and took him on. The lax risk controls in that bank led them to some serious money laundering fines, and they became very cozy with Russian oligarchs for that reason, i.e. willingness to launder money.

There is some speculation that one or two of those oligarchs co-signed on some of those loan agreements.

Name the strongest criticism that Trump has leveled at Putin.

[Spurs Homer]

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?

Of course they are. Four years ago they screwed the democrat out of the presidency for
(clutches pearlz) - EMAILS!

Now - the republican gets the same treatment.

Also- if REAL Biden corruption arises- I am sure they will expose that too.

Don’t even bring up the bogus Hunter Biden russian propaganda- I’m talking ACTUAL facts.

[RandomGuy]

Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to fuck with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

They put that shit online, Ima download it too. 100,000 pages pfft. Not a tax attorney, but I do know a thing or two about financial analysis and detecting fraud.

A fun new hobby.

[Will Hunting]

Of course they are. Four years ago they screwed the democrat out of the presidency for
(clutches pearlz) - EMAILS!

Now - the republican gets the same treatment.

Also- if REAL Biden corruption arises- I am sure they will expose that too.

Don’t even bring up the bogus Hunter Biden russian propaganda- I’m talking ACTUAL facts.
The fact that they're leaving no stone unturned trying to find a corruption scandal involving Biden and the best they can find is something involving his son (where a Republican-led senate investigation cleared his son of any wrongdoing) makes Biden look pretty impressive. I'd assume they'd be able to find something better.

Of course, all of the valid criticisms that can be lobbed at Biden (race relations, whoring himself to the Delaware credit card companies, etc.) are all things Republicans can't touch since they're even worse than he is on that front.

[Spurs Homer]

The fact that they're leaving no stone unturned trying to find a corruption scandal involving Biden and the best they can find is something involving his son (where a Republican-led senate investigation cleared his son of any wrongdoing) makes Biden look pretty impressive. I'd assume they'd be able to find something better.

Of course, all of the valid criticisms that can be lobbed at Biden (race relations, whoring himself to the Delaware credit card companies, etc.) are all things Republicans can't touch since they're even worse than he is on that front.


pretty much

also

on ANY attack Biden receives-

all he has to do is pick ANY recent Trump scandal and throw it right back at Trump.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1310796634633232384?s=19

:lol

Wow. Well done.

[hater]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????

[Will Hunting]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????
They released an objective story about Donald Trump that would have been out of the news cycle years ago if Trump
had released his tax returns. Sorry this is so upsetting to you.

[DMX7]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????

They're working for the benefit of the American people.

[spurraider21]

Yea, I shat on the meme. Try to keep up, Lite.
Narrator: He did not shit on the meme

[RandomGuy]

Narrator: He did not shit on the meme

Narrator continues, ala Stanley Parable: He then noticed some one said words about him. He did not fully understand them, but he knew he did not like the person who said the words, so he fired up the [smiley][derision] part of his brain that he uses for just such occasions, and poured out another post. "That smiley will show them how smart I really am", he thought.

[hater]

They're working for the benefit of the American people.

How will you benefit from this leak? :lmao

[Ef-man]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????

How is it different than what fox or oan do?

[Bogie]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the mpresidential election????


but you said nothing about the intentional concerted effort of this administration to declare war on the free press in this country.

why is that?

[Bogie]

How will you benefit from this leak? :lmao

by killing off the cancer that is today’s party of trump you belong to.

[hater]

How is it different than what fox or oan do?

Fox has been openly pro repug for decades. Oan is an openly conservative outlet :lol

NYT touts being impartial but they are same as the 2 above :lmao

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/861834/story_image/FCF967EA-0784-4014-88B9-A356A7317291.jpeg?1601296491

[Ef-man]

Fox has been openly pro repug for decades. Oan is an openly conservative outlet :lol

NYT touts being impartial but they are same as the 2 above :lmao

The answer is that, while it could be considered a hit job like those conducted by fox or oan, the NYT report has real facts.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1310796634633232384?s=19

:lol

Wow that's amazing. :bobo

[Winehole23]

Trump always had control of the timing, right up until the moment he didn't.

Trump's taxes could be ancient history by now.

[Will Hunting]

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[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1310991793043976199?s=19


At first I wasn't gonna watch the debates, but I will now. :lol

[LkrFan]

1310998525321383944

22 years worth. Nothing. To. Hide.

[ChumpDumper]

22 years worth. Nothing. To. Hide.WHAT ABOUT THE 23RD YEAR? WHAT IS HE HIDING?

[LkrFan]

WHAT ABOUT THE 23RD YEAR? WHAT IS HE HIDING?

:lmao

[pgardn]

They released an objective story about Donald Trump that would have been out of the news cycle years ago if Trump
had released his tax returns. Sorry this is so upsetting to you.

Its like hater asking Putin and Assad to release their tax returns.
Dictators are way beyond this trivial crap.

[Chris]

:lol the NYT isn't done leaking stuff, it's gonna be drip drip drip between now and election day. You're premature ejaculating by declaring there's no Russia connection.

Media raised you good

[ElNono]

Unpacked.

Joe confessed to the misdeed. There's nothing to doubt.

The 'misdeed' in that case is not quid pro quo or a crime, though.

[ElNono]

Media raised you good

Sorry this is happening to you.

[pgardn]

Sad thing is the american oligarchs all do this sqme think Dump does.

Thats why america is a fake "democracy" its more a corporate for war oligarchy

Trump has excelled at claiming loses compared to taxpayer in his same grouping, its not even close.

[Bogie]

Media raised you good


says the guy that has his opinions given to him everyday by alt and far right sources.

you’re really bad at, well, everything.

[Spurtacular]

so you don’t pay taxes either.
that’s cool.
don’t you dare let me catch you on the interstate highway I have paid for.

:lol Less Than Blake trying to puff his chest out.

[Spurtacular]

Narrator: He did not shit on the meme

Narrator: Lite is seriously coping

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao derp trying to steal another shtick

[Spurminator]

Peter Strzok questions Trump’s hidden assets not found in bombshell report — and if he’s compromised because of it

Strzok called the Times report a “roadmap” for the ways in which Trump could be compromised by hostile powers.

It could also explain Trump’s issues he has with the intelligence community,

who would know about any deals he may have made.

“Part of the concern of any counterintelligence professional is looking for these hidden financial entanglements,” the Trump foe explained.

“And watching and having done that over six different administrations,

every foreign country is trying to use money to get leverage and influence on any given presidency.

What the information in The New York Times reports out of those tax records,

the breadth and volume of that monetary back and forth is stunning.

It’s simply unprecedented [of] in any president in modern history.

So, if you look at the ways that can be used (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trumps-apprentice-money-is-running-out-and-he-could-be-foreclosed-on-as-bills-come-due-bombshell-report/)to, as leverage over Trump,

you have to think of this first and foremost as a national security issue.

yes, this is a financial issue, but first and foremost,

the ways that

it can be used to impact the national security of the United States, by the way, can be used against Trump is unprecedented and is deeply concerning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/peter-strzok-questions-trumps-hidden-assets-not-found-in-bombshell-report-and-if-hes-compromised-because-of-it




This is all irrelevant because he sent an anti-Trump text and was having an affair with a coworker. #MAGAlogic

[ChumpDumper]

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[Spurtacular]

The 'misdeed' in that case is not quid pro quo or a crime, though.

Someone tell that to the Democrats, then. They tried to impeach Trump over the mere accusation that he was doing what Biden admitted to doing.

[Will Hunting]

I think the conclusion he's reaching is pretty bold, but interesting analysis nonetheless if you read the full thread

1310929478030426112

[ChumpDumper]

I think the conclusion he's reaching is pretty bold, but interesting analysis nonetheless if you read the full thread

1310929478030426112I don't think it's all that bold tbh. Trump's casinos were legally proven money laundering operations.

[Trill Clinton]

1310989582067019778

scranton joe

[Will Hunting]

I don't think it's all that bold tbh. Trump's casinos were legally proven money laundering operations.
I'd like to think the UK isn't as incapable of going after rich people as the US is and could thus open up an investigation into this.

[hater]

1310989582067019778

scranton joe

a teacher making 1 million :lmao

[hater]

1310989582067019778

scranton joe

a teacher making 1 million :lmao

[ducks]

1310759784472248323

Using interest to make you not pay taxes is smart unless you chump

[ChumpDumper]

Using interest to make you not pay taxes is smart unless you chump:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

1310989582067019778

scranton joe

Idjut paid 30% :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1311032484583350272?s=19
https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1311032486726709248?s=19
https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1311032489079697409?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

$750

[Reck]

:lol Hit job as if this was all made up.

[Chris]

"millions"

[ChumpDumper]

"$750"

[ChumpDumper]

So Qhris is now arguing that the records and NYT story are all true.:tu

[Will Hunting]

Remarkable how the NYT is getting blamed for not providing the transparency on Trump's tax returns that Trump has been fighting in court for the last 4 years not to provide

[boutons_deux]

TRUMP’S TAX MESS ASIDE, CAN HE PAY OFF HIS $1 BILLION IN DEBT?

The New York Times’ damning report on the president’s taxes shows just a fraction of his financial woes.

And Wall Street bankers have serious doubts about whether he can dig himself out.

Business losses can be carried back to offset profits earned in previous years, generating a tax refund in the process, or they can be used to offset future profits. This is almost certainly what Trump has been doing, my savvy Wall Street sources tell me.

Trump has two pockets of huge losses:

one from driving his casinos into bankruptcy during the 1990s, and

one from the poor operation of his golf courses (according to the Times,
losses at Doral have come out to $162 million, and
his three courses in Scotland and Ireland have lost another $64 million) and
his few remaining hotels (the Washington Trump International Hotel has lost $55 million, according to the Times).

an even more important question:

whether Trump is solvent and might be facing personal bankruptcy.

The Times reported that “within the next four years,”

Trump has “more than $300 million in loans” coming due for which he is personally responsible because he guaranteed them.

But that is only a fraction of the more than $1.1 billion or so in debt and obligations that Trump owes across his empire

Whether he’s good for it remains to be seen.

The Wall Street bankers I speak with have their serious doubts. There are many reasons.

First and foremost, as has been the case for many years, there is

little chance any Wall Street bank will refinance any of Trump’s loans as they come due.

He’s been a toxic credit for years, and that toxicity has only increased during his presidency.

to whom Trump owes all this money,

the truth is we know that the originators of the bulk of these loans have been

Deutsche Bank, as has been well documented, and :lol Pootin!

Ladder Capital,

these Trump loans have, by now, probably been widely syndicated to investors, perhaps around the world.

Can Trump’s assets be sold for more than the $1.1 billion he owes, plus the considerable capital gains tax he will owe the government from the sales?

it won’t be enough for Trump to be able to pay back the debt he owes on the buildings and golf properties.

He will also have to pay the capital gains tax on what are now by and large fully depreciated, low-basis assets.

There probably has not been a worse moment in a generation to try to sell assets like Manhattan office towers, big-city hotels, and golf courses.

Trump’s financial situation precarious indeed, and

that’s before he might end up owing the IRS $100 million.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/can-trump-pay-off-his-billion-in-debt

[Will Hunting]

Money laundering, illegal campaign contributions, and fraudulent tax deductions.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/09/us/donald-trump-taxes-las-vegas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Typical Wednesday stuff for Trump.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej5rtJuWsAAmxXC?format=jpg&name=large

[Will Hunting]

:lol the NYT gave Trump a break while he was in the hospital, but now they're off and running again

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/10/us/trump-properties-swamp.html

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s taxes reveal president’s businesses reaped millions in return for favors from the administration

Trump’s tax records reveals the extent to which he used his businesses to sell access to wealthy individuals with business before the administration.

“An investigation by The Times found

over 200 companies,
special-interest groups and
foreign governments that patronized Mr. Trump’s properties
while reaping benefits from him and his administration.

Nearly a quarter of those patrons have not been previously reported,” said the report.

“The tax records — along with membership rosters for Mar-a-Lago and the president’s golf club in Bedminster, N.J., as well as other sources — reveal how much money this new line of business was worth.”

“Just 60 customers with interests at stake before the Trump administration brought his family business nearly $12 million during the first two years of his presidency, The Times found.

Almost all saw their interests advanced, in some fashion, by Mr. Trump or his government.”

“Patrons at the properties ranged widely:

foreign politicians and Florida sugar barons,
a Chinese billionaire and
a Serbian prince,
clean-energy enthusiasts and
their adversaries in the petroleum industry,
avowed small-government activists and
contractors seeking billions from ever-fattening federal budgets,”

“Mr. Trump’s administration delivered them funding and laws and land.

He handed them appointments to task forces and ambassadorships,

victories as weighty as a presidential directive and

as ephemeral as a presidential tweet."

one prominent Florida lobbyist, Brian Ballard, felt pressured into paying the $200,000 membership fee (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-200000.html) to join Trump’s Mar-a-Lago country club because he was made to feel that his clients would not get favorable treatment otherwise.

White House spokesman Judd Deere :lol denied all of these characterizations, saying,

“The president has kept his promise every day to the American people :lol :lol :lol

to fight for them, :lol :lol :lol

drain the swamp :lol :lol :lol

and always put America first.” :lol :lol :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trumps-taxes-reveal-presidents-businesses-reaped-millions-in-return-for-favors-from-the-administration-nyt/

[boutons_deux]

If any of this new stuff is illegal, who has standing to punish Trash?

[Winehole23]

Money laundering, illegal campaign contributions, and fraudulent tax deductions.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/09/us/donald-trump-taxes-las-vegas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Typical Wednesday stuff for Trump.Unfortunately, the corruption of Trump and his family is a selling point for MAGAs rather than a disqualification.

Donald Trump is frankly admired and envied for his power and venality; his self-dealing and cruelty toward anyone who opposes him represents the fulfillment of deep wishes. To be rich, to be powerful and to abuse others with impunity.

[boutons_deux]

Trump plotted to inflate his worth a billion dollars and

leave his kids with a massive tax bill

a story about the president’s attempts to inflate his personal worth,

purely for vanity purposes,

that would have left his children with a massive tax bill if he died —

with the president saying he didn’t care.

Trump just pulled numbers out of the air when he was with Cohen and Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg as part of

a plot to get increased fawning coverage from the press.

‘I wanted to show I have $7 billion.’ Then ‘I’m worth $7 billion’ before the conversation finished it’s,

‘let’s make it $8 billion.”

Then Weisselberg said that may not the smartest idea,

we’ll have a tax bill we can’t deal with

if you drop dead tomorrow and that will be on the kids.

He [Trump] said, ‘well, that’s okay.

I’ll be dead, let them deal with it.'”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump-plotted-to-inflate-his-worth-and-leave-his-kids-with-a-massive-tax-bill-michael-cohen

[Ef-man]

Trump plotted to inflate his worth a billion dollars and

leave his kids with a massive tax bill

a story about the president’s attempts to inflate his personal worth,

purely for vanity purposes,

that would have left his children with a massive tax bill if he died —

with the president saying he didn’t care.

Trump just pulled numbers out of the air when he was with Cohen and Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg as part of

a plot to get increased fawning coverage from the press.

‘I wanted to show I have $7 billion.’ Then ‘I’m worth $7 billion’ before the conversation finished it’s,

‘let’s make it $8 billion.”

Then Weisselberg said that may not the smartest idea,

we’ll have a tax bill we can’t deal with

if you drop dead tomorrow and that will be on the kids.

He [Trump] said, ‘well, that’s okay.

I’ll be dead, let them deal with it.'”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump-plotted-to-inflate-his-worth-and-leave-his-kids-with-a-massive-tax-bill-michael-cohen




Typical trump response: not my problem.

[RandomGuy]

(3 days ago) Supreme Court ends Trump’s bid to shield his tax returns and effort to challenge election losses

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/top-stories/supreme-court-ends-trumps-bid-to-shield-his-tax-returns-and-effort-to-challenge-election-losses/ar-BB1dVhkw

[RandomGuy]

(2hrs ago)
Trump's tax returns given to Manhattan prosecutors

The documents were turned over Monday by the former president’s accountants at Mazars USA. The Trump tax documents run into the millions of pages, a source told ABC News.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-tax-returns-given-to-manhattan-prosecutors/ar-BB1e15Ix

[RandomGuy]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/AGZXYM7bl9oC4/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

Expect derp to rush in with RT or trump political youtubes!

:cry muh trump tax returns :cry

#LookingForTrumpTaxConspiracyToBlameOnHillary
#LonelyDerpLookingForAlphaTaxLawyer

Wonder what is go to will be this time. 3 new coping threads is my guess.

[RandomGuy]

Dusting off this old chestnut cos it seriously worked in 2016. :lmao

:lol

Actually it was the prosecutors looking into allegations of criminal activity serious enough to get a warrant for them.

Your cult leaders nutz are in a vice now.

[benefactor]

Tick tock

[RandomGuy]

We knew he was not successful already.

What will be interesting though are the details of the loans he used to stay afloat.

No one, and I mean no one, wanted to loan him money, until Deutsche Bank wanted to grow at any cost, and took him on. The lax risk controls in that bank led them to some serious money laundering fines, and they became very cozy with Russian oligarchs for that reason, i.e. willingness to launder money.

There is some speculation that one or two of those oligarchs co-signed on some of those loan agreements.


May or may not be in there depending on the supporting documentation. Hmmm

My guess is that the money-laundering thing will be the thing that gets him.

After that happens, the IRS will go after them hammer and tongs, starting with the former CFO.

They will lean on former employees who will roll over on this guy in a heartbeat.

[RandomGuy]

Tick tock

https://media2.giphy.com/media/RgnTXvE24wFjUhB3Dt/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47wpqj72eu304iqmlqetr8olticlhj i99w7qha4cmc&rid=giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/RgnTXvE24wFjUhB3Dt/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47wpqj72eu304iqmlqetr8olticlhj i99w7qha4cmc&rid=giphy.gif

It's happening.

Treasury must turn over Trump’s taxes to Congress, the Justice Dept. says.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/us/politics/trump-taxes-congress.html


https://media4.giphy.com/media/AGZXYM7bl9oC4/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

Expect derp to rush in with RT or trump political youtubes!

:cry muh trump tax returns :cry

#LookingForTrumpTaxConspiracyToBlameOnHillary
#LonelyDerpLookingForAlphaTaxLawyer

As I said before, several coping threads will be my guess.

[RandomGuy]

1310759784472248323

:lol Missed this one.

[RandomGuy]

I think the conclusion he's reaching is pretty bold, but interesting analysis nonetheless if you read the full thread

1310929478030426112

Not a bold conclusion.

As an auditor:

It is the correct one.

Oddly enough they are investigating this as part of the T. Org criminal probe.

Part of a definite pattern, and all based on lying and greed. Two things that trip you up when it comes to financial reporting and taxes.

[boutons_deux]

judge rules the Dems can have Trash's tax docs

[Adam Lambert]

judge rules the Dems can have Trash's tax docs

Oh well that settles it, they're definitely getting them now!

[RandomGuy]

Oh well that settles it, they're definitely getting them now!

Dump will fight a delaying action, but that can only take so long. Be fascinating to see what is in it.

[spurraider21]

:sleep