If DeMar DeRozan opts-in, he's likely traded from San Antonio

[ducks]

https://www.bballrumors.com/2020/09/if-demar-derozan-opts-in-hes-likely.html?fbclid=IwAR3XzwZRTVN_OngxrIY5CSTcHAxQr QZCJOCQ1n9gC27QCtlfgz8QpBmpx5E&m=1

[DC23]

That's not a substantive article. It's what many of us have been suggesting and/or hoping for...

[DAF86]

He makes no sense in Milwuakee, tbh. I don't see how he and Giannis could co-exist.

[baseline bum]

He makes no sense in Milwuakee, tbh. I don't see how he and Giannis could co-exist.

I mean really, where does he make sense in 2020 with no three point shooting and no defensive ability? If the Spurs can dump him for any asset without taking bad contracts back they should do it.

[Robz4000]

He doesn't make sense for the first 40 mins or so in MIL, but theoretically he's that guard that can close games that they supposedly need since Antetokounmpo can't.

[DAF86]

I mean really, where does he make sense in 2020 with no three point shooting and no defensive ability? If the Spurs can dump him for any asset without taking bad contracts back they should do it.

Any bad team desperate to make the playoffs is a good destination for DeRozan, imho. Someone like the Pistons or Kincks, for example.

Also, I think he could fit really well in GS as a supercharged version of Livingston. We know the Raptors are a good fit, at least for the regular season. There are some places where DeRozan makes sense, Milwuakee isn't one of them, tbh.

[baseline bum]

Any bad team desperate to make the playoffs is a good destination for DeRozan, imho.

So then just keep him? :lol

[DAF86]

He doesn't make sense for the first 40 mins or so in MIL, but theoretically he's that guard that can close games that they supposedly need since Antetokounmpo can't.

They have a better option for that in Middleton. A DeRozan/Giannis lineup would be starving for spacing in the final minutes of games.

[DAF86]

So then just keep him? :lol

The Spurs were that team these last couple of seasons, I want to believe they have moved from that position since the streak is finally over, tbh.

[Rusty]

So then just keep him? :lol

:rollin

[ZeusWillJudge]

So then just keep him? :lol


BAM! :lol

[Robz4000]

They have a better option for that in Middleton. A DeRozan/Giannis lineup would be starving for spacing in the final minutes of games.

Not disagreeing since we've seen his "closing" first-hand, but he was pretty good at it in the bubble. The Bucks FO might be willing to bet on it since his contract expires after the season.

[daslicer]

Any bad team desperate to make the playoffs is a good destination for DeRozan, imho. Someone like the Pistons or Kincks, for example.

Also, I think he could fit really well in GS as a supercharged version of Livingston. We know the Raptors are a good fit, at least for the regular season. There are some places where DeRozan makes sense, Milwuakee isn't one of them, tbh.

Interesting the Warriors could actually be a good fit for him. Derozan is a good play maker for his position and he would be a good compliment to Klay/Steph.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

i love ddr’s game personally but won’t cry about any spur being parted ways with except ............. nah any current spur

[tbdog]

I like DDs game. He isn't worth a big extention but I want him to stay. But FO need to sort out the balance of the team. Bobby Hield would be my target.

[EasyMoney]

Indiana is experiencing some turmoil. Or, about to. Oladipo and turner are rumored to want out.

[tbdog]

Not sure I'll touch Oladipo. He had like one amazing year. To bet on that reoccurring after the injury is a risk. I like Turner but he doesn't fit and unlikely to earn his contract.

[CGD]

I mean really, where does he make sense in 2020 with no three point shooting and no defensive ability? If the Spurs can dump him for any asset without taking bad contracts back they should do it.

Agree, problem is we’d have to take some long term $$ back. But something like Brook Lopez, Illasyva expiring, and DJ Wilson would be good. Would want nothing to do with Middleton or Bledsoe deals

[lmbebo]

Don't think Bucks make sense for us. Knicks is possible, depending on the package. Maybe charlotte works -- they would certainly try to base it around Batum ... Would need multiple pics to make work.

[Chinook]

People are too focused on shooting and ignore the other aspects to spacing. DMDR as an iso/midrange dribbler needs to have the ball in his hands all the time. DeRozan as a down-hill aggressive play-maker can certainly help a team. He basically needs to be more like Prime Parker and less like Rudy Gay. If he does that, he'll be able to get by without shooting, just as a number of good players have been able to.

[The Truth #6]

I would rather gamble having one last year of DD playing at his bubble level, then taking on years of garbage from some other team, because that’s what we would get. LA is who needs to be traded. To me that should be obvious after watching how the team played in the bubble without him.

[SpursDynasty85]

Honestly this year is the best year to trade our vets, gain experience for our young guys and transition to the new generation by getting another 1st rounder somehow.

[exstatic]

I don’t think Spurs need, or even want another first rounder in such a meh draft. Trade vets, fine, but get a future first. Just drafting at 11, we'll have six firsts in the last five drafts. That’s enough development for now.

[tbdog]

Yeah, selling vets now is a bad time. You need vets for the young guys. Last off season I predicted what the Spurs would do. I have no idea this time.

[KobesAchilles]

keep him. He's one of two people on our team that can dribble a basketball. Just saying

[Texas_Ranger]

if he aint traded we will be fighting for that 9th spot. Id trade both him and Aldridge for basically nothing, just so we can tank, get a good pick and get some free agents. There is no one on this roster other than probably Keldon that deserves to be safe.

[baseline bum]

I would rather gamble having one last year of DD playing at his bubble level, then taking on years of garbage from some other team, because that’s what we would get. LA is who needs to be traded. To me that should be obvious after watching how the team played in the bubble without him.

I wouldn't put nearly as much stock into the team's bubble play as I do in the regular season. All but the 8-seed was already set in stone, so for most teams the Spurs played, the 8-game bubble schedule was a glorified preseason. No one can really believe the Spurs were a good team and Phoenix an elite one based on bubble records.

[Sugus]

I don't see why everyone's so low on this year's draft, tbh. No superstars-to-be, for sure, but that isn't a problem for the Spurs - and all the circumstances that limit scouting allow teams with good drafting departments, like our very own, to shine. I'd be extremely happy to see the Spurs trade one of DD or LMA for an extra first - not only because there's a lot of very interesting prospects we could reasonably develop, but also because it'd be a clear step forward in terms of accepting, and embracing, a rebuilding process.

I have no doubts in my mind that, if the Spurs run it back as-is, they'll be trying to aim for the POs, in one of the worst years to be doing so. Shipping one of our "stars" relieves the Spurs of all pressure to compete. And it's not even like we'd run out of vets to coach the youngings... Rudy still there, Coach Patty still there, LMA/DD still there, Marco will probably be fucking resigned and still be there.

[spurs10]

keep him. He's one of two people on our team that can dribble a basketball. Just saying Well there is that 'dribbling thing' to consider.

[The Truth #6]

I wouldn't put nearly as much stock into the team's bubble play as I do in the regular season. All but the 8-seed was already set in stone, so for most teams the Spurs played, the 8-game bubble schedule was a glorified preseason. No one can really believe the Spurs were a good team and Phoenix an elite one based on bubble records.

I’m not disagreeing. But I feel fairly confident that the roster with LA and DD is doomed. DD would likely return to the player many couldn’t stand. In the bubble there was a glimpse of life without LA and I liked it for its potential. So I don’t think I’m being optimistically naive about DD. I suppose I’m mostly cynical about what long-term contracts we would have to take on just to get rid of DD, and that is what I feel would be worse.

[BackHome]

If both stay there going to be fighting who takes the ball cause both want to prove themselves to get that next contract it will be about there numbers not team.

[baseline bum]

I’m not disagreeing. But I feel fairly confident that the roster with LA and DD is doomed. DD would likely return to the player many couldn’t stand. In the bubble there was a glimpse of life without LA and I liked it for its potential. So I don’t think I’m being optimistically naive about DD. I suppose I’m mostly cynical about what long-term contracts we would have to take on just to get rid of DD, and that is what I feel would be worse.

Just cut DeRozan then.

[baseline bum]

I’m not disagreeing. But I feel fairly confident that the roster with LA and DD is doomed. DD would likely return to the player many couldn’t stand. In the bubble there was a glimpse of life without LA and I liked it for its potential. So I don’t think I’m being optimistically naive about DD. I suppose I’m mostly cynical about what long-term contracts we would have to take on just to get rid of DD, and that is what I feel would be worse.

Just cut DeRozan then.

[Joseph Kony]

Spurs can probably trade one of LA/DD to a contender or maybe both, if DD decides to opt in. A few teams might be interested in adding LMA for a year to give them a serious push (BOS, BKN, MIA) in the frontcourt so i think he may be easier to trade.

I think a Hayward for Aldridge swap be solid for both teams. Assuming DD opts in of course, because there is room on the roster for one of them but definitely not both. And DD played well in the bubble and looked good with the young guys and is slightly younger than LMA so i think i would prefer to keep DD over LMA at this point anyway

[spurspl]

they must be traded (lma and ddr). Theres no reason to keep them. Trade them for younger players or picks. Just dont let them go with nothing in return pls

[baseline bum]

Spurs can probably trade one of LA/DD to a contender or maybe both, if DD decides to opt in. A few teams might be interested in adding LMA for a year to give them a serious push (BOS, BKN, MIA) in the frontcourt so i think he may be easier to trade.

I think a Hayward for Aldridge swap be solid for both teams. Assuming DD opts in of course, because there is room on the roster for one of them but definitely not both. And DD played well in the bubble and looked good with the young guys and is slightly younger than LMA so i think i would prefer to keep DD over LMA at this point anyway

No thanks. Magaward is on the wrong side of 30, is due $34 million, and was next to worthless in the ECF. And DeRozan looked like shit in the actual year, I don't care if he put up numbers in the glorified 8 game bubble pre-playoff exhibition.

[The Truth #6]

Just cut DeRozan then.

Or trade LA instead.

[baseline bum]

Or trade LA instead.

I'd dump DeRozan either way.

[R. DeMurre]

I just don't see what holding onto DeRozan accomplishes. The Spurs can't win a title with him-- that's for sure-- so what's the point? I'd rather see a season of Keldon Johnson and Samanic getting minutes and experience, even if it means missing the playoffs. Another year of DeRozan playing lots of minutes, having a tepid influence on winning, and the Spurs being a complete nonfactor in the playoffs doesn't accomplish anything, except stunting the growth of young players.

[baseline bum]

I just don't see what holding onto DeRozan accomplishes. The Spurs can't win a title with him-- that's for sure-- so what's the point? I'd rather see a season of Keldon Johnson and Samanic getting minutes and experience, even if it means missing the playoffs. Another year of DeRozan playing lots of minutes, having a tepid influence on winning, and the Spurs being a complete nonfactor in the playoffs doesn't accomplish anything, except stunting the growth of young players.

DePression doesn't even get them to the playoffs anyways much less give them a chance to win a title, so I don't see the point in keeping such a limited player who is on the wrong side of 30 and it's only downhill from here. They were on pace to win 35 games when the season got called. All DeRozan is is someone in the way now.

[mo7888]

The article says Milwaukee, NY, and Charlotte are the interested parties. Does anyone have any idea what those trades would look like? I could see NY and Charlotte coming up with something compelling but, I can't see the Bucks having anything we'd want (that they'd give up).

[spurspl]

The article says Milwaukee, NY, and Charlotte are the interested parties. Does anyone have any idea what those trades would look like? I could see NY and Charlotte coming up with something compelling but, I can't see the Bucks having anything we'd want (that they'd give up).

i guess how spurs offer could look a like: 3 x 1st rounders + filler for ddr :spin

bucks has completely nothing to offer and ddr just doesnt fit to their roster so i really dont understand why they are interested.

NYK, as i said before, is the best trade partner. Firstly they have pretty decent young guys to build a package around: randle, knox, ntilikina and ofc a great picks (a lottery every year :lol). Plus i can see them overpaying for a star which could be a huge benefit for us.

charlotte is a mystery to me. Theres nothing id want except devonte but imo hes untouchable.

[EmantheSpursFan]

How do y’all feel about targeting Chris Paul for Demar?

I don’t hate the idea. Maybe we can also get a Future 1st if we throw in Murray.

Chris Paul/Patty
White/Lonnie
Johnson/Luka
LA/Lyles
Poetle/1st?

[mo7888]

i guess how spurs offer could look a like: 3 x 1st rounders + filler for ddr :spin

bucks has completely nothing to offer and ddr just doesnt fit to their roster so i really dont understand why they are interested.

NYK, as i said before, is the best trade partner. Firstly they have pretty decent young guys to build a package around: randle, knox, ntilikina and ofc a great picks (a lottery every year :lol). Plus i can see them overpaying for a star which could be a huge benefit for us.

charlotte is a mystery to me. Theres nothing id want except devonte but imo hes untouchable.

Charlotte gets interesting if they include their pick. NY, I agree is the best trade partner of those 3, Randle, Ntilikina, and their pick would do it. I'd then like to move Murray for another pick elsewhere.

[baseline bum]

How do y’all feel about targeting Chris Paul for Demar?

I don’t hate the idea. Maybe we can also get a Future 1st if we throw in Murray.

Chris Paul/Patty
White/Lonnie
Johnson/Luka
LA/Lyles
Poetle/1st?

With Paul's $44.2 million 2022 payday it would have to be something like Paul + SGA for DeRozan + Gay. Which I don't think OKC would do since they're not in danger of hitting the luxury tax for 2021 nor 2022 anymore.

[Sugus]

The article says Milwaukee, NY, and Charlotte are the interested parties. Does anyone have any idea what those trades would look like? I could see NY and Charlotte coming up with something compelling but, I can't see the Bucks having anything we'd want (that they'd give up).

I can definitely see Milwaukee being interested, especially since all the pressure is on the FO to build a true contender for next season or else Giannis bolts. With DD only having a year left on his contract, that's a great fit and no long-term damage done if they don't win it all. But I don't see how the Spurs get that trade off without some sort of bad salary coming our way, most likely Bledsoe. It would depend on the picks involved... There's a real chance MWK goes back to the bottom of the barrel, in the near future. It's a risk I'd definitely take, since we get the added bonus of a Derozan-less team.

I can't see the Knicks trading for DD/LMA at all. They're very stupid, but not that much. Charlotte I think has finally learned the lesson after the Kemba situation - I could see a trade if DD was more marketable, but he's not really a guy that puts butts in seats. I also haven't heard any reports of the Hornets looking for a player like him.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Meh....he might be coveted by some other teams. If the Spurs can get younger and build for the future, I'd certainly trade him.

I'd prefer that we reload at this point. We know we're, at best, an 8 seed with what we have. And with teams like the Suns, Pelicans, Grizz and certainly the Warriors being better next season, I don't see this Spurs squad making the playoffs even if they're playing at their best. This group could play their hearts out and still be 11 in the West.

[baseline bum]

Meh....he might be coveted by some other teams. If the Spurs can get younger and build for the future, I'd certainly trade him.

I'd prefer that we reload at this point. We know we're, at best, an 8 seed with what we have. And with teams like the Suns, Pelicans, Grizz and certainly the Warriors being better next season, I don't see this Spurs squad making the playoffs even if they're playing at their best. This group could play their hearts out and still be 11 in the West.

We know they were effectively a 35 win team. There is no reason whatsoever to bring back a loser of a team. Get what you can for Aldridge as long as it's not taking crap back and just get out from under DeRozan.

[EasyMoney]

How do y’all feel about targeting Chris Paul for Demar?

I don’t hate the idea. Maybe we can also get a Future 1st if we throw in Murray.

Chris Paul/Patty
White/Lonnie
Johnson/Luka
LA/Lyles
Poetle/1st?


Okc is in rebuild mode. No need for them to trade for demar unless a third team is involved

[baseline bum]

Okc is in rebuild mode. No need for them to trade for demar unless a third team is involved

They'd be dumping his $86 million contract.

[SpursDynasty85]

Money-wise it would make very little sense for Derozan to just leave without opting in. He has stated playing is not about the money so maybe it's a good thing he just leaves vs opting-in and staying at SA for another year. It is good that it both benefits Derozan and Spurs would want him to opt-in and look for a trade. Teams would want him to just sign out right or wait a year to sign though. Spurs new GM hopefully can navigate a good trade this offseason for at least him and hopefully LMA/Rudy Gay/and Mills too.

[tbdog]

Money-wise it would make very little sense for Derozan to just leave without opting in. He has stated playing is not about the money so maybe it's a good thing he just leaves vs opting-in and staying at SA for another year. It is good that it both Derozan and Spurs would want him to opt-in and look for a trade. Teams would want him to just sign out right or wait a year to sign though. Spurs new GM hopefully can navigate a good trade this offseason for at least him and hopefully LMA/Rudy Gay/and Mills too.


You can't just trade all our vets and think the answer is just letting our young players play. That is a disaster waiting to happen. Time and time again, young teams implode. I am all full trading Gay and Mills for better fits, though. But if you are trading away DD and LMA, you kinda need Gay and Mills.

[SpursDynasty85]

You can't just trade all our vets and think the answer is just letting our young players play. That is a disaster waiting to happen. Time and time again, young teams implode. I am all full trading Gay and Mills for better fits, though. But if you are trading away DD and LMA, you kinda need Gay and Mills.

Most of our young guys have already played with the vets plenty. Maybe or maybe not but I think White and especially Keldon can lead a young team. It's not like we need to compete for a championship yet but I assume we will have to bring in a high contract vet or two to get some 1st rounders or decent prospects back. I can see keeping one or two of LMA and Patty.

[BackHome]

I am all in for moving vets if we get something in return if not let them all ride out there last year ie. LMA , DEROZZ, Rudy, Mills. Etc.

[talkspurs]

How do y’all feel about targeting Chris Paul for Demar?

I don’t hate the idea. Maybe we can also get a Future 1st if we throw in Murray.

Chris Paul/Patty
White/Lonnie
Johnson/Luka
LA/Lyles
Poetle/1st?


Why would the Spurs do this? Unless you think this would make us a competing team we would be taking on a worse contract and an older player.

[Nivek_ogre]

Trade him. Let's go all in on tanking and get an actual blue chip lottery player to build around.

[baseline bum]

Why would the Spurs do this? Unless you think this would make us a competing team we would be taking on a worse contract and an older player.

For picks. Though it would be Paul + picks for DeRozan + Gay or something like that, which would lower OKC's payroll $44 million for 2022. Personally for taking that much dead money I'd want SGA instead of picks.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

For picks. Though it would be Paul + picks for DeRozan + Gay or something like that, which would lower OKC's payroll $44 million for 2022. Personally for taking that much dead money I'd want SGA instead of picks.

Good point. Dipping into OKC's wealth of draft picks might be worth taking on Paul's contract.

[itzsoweezee]

A competent front office would trade him, which means the spurs are definitely going to run it back with DeRozan ball and secure the 11th seed!

[talkspurs]

For picks. Though it would be Paul + picks for DeRozan + Gay or something like that, which would lower OKC's payroll $44 million for 2022. Personally for taking that much dead money I'd want SGA instead of picks.

Horrible contract to take on for the bad picks we would get back. They would be late first round picks. I would not take paul at this time as the team and him are at different points. OKC has also said they were not willing to trade their picks to get rid of him. This could change but I think anything we get back would be small.

the post also did not mention picks but as I said even if that was his point the picks would not be good.

[baseline bum]

Horrible contract to take on for the bad picks we would get back. They would be late first round picks. I would not take paul at this time as the team and him are at different points. OKC has also said they were not willing to trade their picks to get rid of him. This could change but I think anything we get back would be small.

the post also did not mention picks but as I said even if that was his point the picks would not be good.

Yeah I wouldn't do it either unless they gave up SGA. And OKC wouldn't do that to save $44 million in 2022 payroll since they're not in luxury tax territory for 2021 and beyond any more.

[exstatic]

Horrible contract to take on for the bad picks we would get back. They would be late first round picks. I would not take paul at this time as the team and him are at different points. OKC has also said they were not willing to trade their picks to get rid of him. This could change but I think anything we get back would be small.

the post also did not mention picks but as I said even if that was his point the picks would not be good.

Uh, if they’re trading CP3, they’ll be a lottery team. He was their focus, and what got them into the playoffs. DD and RG have shown they can’t lead a team to the playoffs, even with young talent.

[mo7888]

I can definitely see Milwaukee being interested, especially since all the pressure is on the FO to build a true contender for next season or else Giannis bolts. With DD only having a year left on his contract, that's a great fit and no long-term damage done if they don't win it all. But I don't see how the Spurs get that trade off without some sort of bad salary coming our way, most likely Bledsoe. It would depend on the picks involved... There's a real chance MWK goes back to the bottom of the barrel, in the near future. It's a risk I'd definitely take, since we get the added bonus of a Derozan-less team.

I can't see the Knicks trading for DD/LMA at all. They're very stupid, but not that much. Charlotte I think has finally learned the lesson after the Kemba situation - I could see a trade if DD was more marketable, but he's not really a guy that puts butts in seats. I also haven't heard any reports of the Hornets looking for a player like him.

That's an interesting Milwaukee take... I hadn't considered future 1st's after a possible Giannis bolt.... good thought...

[mo7888]

You can't just trade all our vets and think the answer is just letting our young players play. That is a disaster waiting to happen. Time and time again, young teams implode. I am all full trading Gay and Mills for better fits, though. But if you are trading away DD and LMA, you kinda need Gay and Mills.

If you move LMA, sign Tyson Chandler to mentor Jakob or whatever young big we draft...real pro..good locker room guy...

[toki9]

If you move LMA, sign Tyson Chandler to mentor Jakob or whatever young big we draft...real pro..good locker room guy...

Yep...total team player, with a recent history of taking one for the team...like when a teammate violates bubble-protocol for some extra-curricular activities...I wonder how his wife felt about his team-first attitude...

[poopbox]

Spurs can probably trade one of LA/DD to a contender or maybe both, if DD decides to opt in. A few teams might be interested in adding LMA for a year to give them a serious push (BOS, BKN, MIA) in the frontcourt so i think he may be easier to trade.

I think a Hayward for Aldridge swap be solid for both teams. Assuming DD opts in of course, because there is room on the roster for one of them but definitely not both. And DD played well in the bubble and looked good with the young guys and is slightly younger than LMA so i think i would prefer to keep DD over LMA at this point anyway

Maga Hayward just sprained his ankle reading about this trade proposal

[phxspurfan]

Nooo Spurs 4 Lyfe DeRozan


DeMar in the rafters HOF






I need my jersey to be worth something!

[bluebellmaniac]

If you move LMA, sign Tyson Chandler to mentor Jakob or whatever young big we draft...real pro..good locker room guy...

If only we already had someone who could mentor Jakob...

[venitian navigator]

Considering DDR value has sky rocketed after last season (with his best numbers of his life) and more aftrr the bubble (I mean compared to his value at the beginning of the season, as he was considered at the time a non factor anymore in wiew of the new basketball tendencies) I think that we can rigthly sell him for a lottery pick, if the lottery team is enticed to sel the pick by their peculiar situation (downloading bad contracts).

Of the mentioned teams :

GS
could trade for both DDR (a more reliable player than Wiggins, that's for sure) and Gay (they have their Iguodala trade exception)
Considering their situation for next year is probably an all in one (Curry, Thompson and Green are not that young anymore, Wiggins is a more than downloadable player and contract) they could sacrifice n° 2 draft pick if they are not in love with the names coming out of it...
so GS trade n° 2, Wiggins and use the Iguodala trade exception for DDR and Gay

Detroit
Considering Casey relationship with DDR they could see him as the ideal man to send them back to the play offs and they absolutely need to download, if possible, Griffin contract
so Detroit trade n° 7 plus Griffin and Doumbaya for DDR and Gay

NY
Considering their horrible record last years, they are quite in the same situation as Detroit excepy for the fact that their supposed new young hope has a game similar to DDR...but having to choose between a sure thing and a developing one they could decide to opt for the former
so NY trade n° 8 plus whoever they want (most of their contracts runs just for another year) for DDR or DDR and Gay

I don't see a possible Milwaukee package and in any case I don't see such package worth considering... (I wouldn't touch Bledsoe with a pole...)

[RC_Drunkford]

Considering DDR value has sky rocketed after last season (with his best numbers of his life) and more aftrr the bubble (I mean compared to his value at the beginning of the season, as he was considered at the time a non factor anymore in wiew of the new basketball tendencies) I think that we can rigthly sell him for a lottery pick, if the lottery team is enticed to sel the pick by their peculiar situation (downloading bad contracts).

Of the mentioned teams :

GS
could trade for both DDR (a more reliable player than Wiggins, that's for sure) and Gay (they have their Iguodala trade exception)
Considering their situation for next year is probably an all in one (Curry, Thompson and Green are not that young anymore, Wiggins is a more than downloadable player and contract) they could sacrifice n° 2 draft pick if they are not in love with the names coming out of it...
so GS trade n° 2, Wiggins and use the Iguodala trade exception for DDR and Gay

Detroit
Considering Casey relationship with DDR they could see him as the ideal man to send them back to the play offs and they absolutely need to download, if possible, Griffin contract
so Detroit trade n° 7 plus Griffin and Doumbaya for DDR and Gay

NY
Considering their horrible record last years, they are quite in the same situation as Detroit excepy for the fact that their supposed new young hope has a game similar to DDR...but having to choose between a sure thing and a developing one they could decide to opt for the former
so NY trade n° 8 plus whoever they want (most of their contracts runs just for another year) for DDR or DDR and Gay

I don't see a possible Milwaukee package and in any case I don't see such package worth considering... (I wouldn't touch Bledsoe with a pole...)

All these trades would just mess up the Spurs cap space for 2021. If they trade, they need to get back expiring contracts

[XDT76]

Considering DDR value has sky rocketed after last season (with his best numbers of his life) and more aftrr the bubble (I mean compared to his value at the beginning of the season, as he was considered at the time a non factor anymore in wiew of the new basketball tendencies) I think that we can rigthly sell him for a lottery pick, if the lottery team is enticed to sel the pick by their peculiar situation (downloading bad contracts).

Of the mentioned teams :

GS
could trade for both DDR (a more reliable player than Wiggins, that's for sure) and Gay (they have their Iguodala trade exception)
Considering their situation for next year is probably an all in one (Curry, Thompson and Green are not that young anymore, Wiggins is a more than downloadable player and contract) they could sacrifice n° 2 draft pick if they are not in love with the names coming out of it...
so GS trade n° 2, Wiggins and use the Iguodala trade exception for DDR and Gay

Detroit
Considering Casey relationship with DDR they could see him as the ideal man to send them back to the play offs and they absolutely need to download, if possible, Griffin contract
so Detroit trade n° 7 plus Griffin and Doumbaya for DDR and Gay

NY
Considering their horrible record last years, they are quite in the same situation as Detroit excepy for the fact that their supposed new young hope has a game similar to DDR...but having to choose between a sure thing and a developing one they could decide to opt for the former
so NY trade n° 8 plus whoever they want (most of their contracts runs just for another year) for DDR or DDR and Gay

I don't see a possible Milwaukee package and in any case I don't see such package worth considering... (I wouldn't touch Bledsoe with a pole...)

They might have reasons to do these trade with Spurs but why do Spurs wanna do it? These trade will give the Spurs longer term bad contracts and probably more players to develop than there's game time.

[spurspl]

They might have reasons to do these trade with Spurs but why do Spurs wanna do it? These trade will give the Spurs longer term bad contracts and probably more players to develop than there's game time.


All these trades would just mess up the Spurs cap space for 2021. If they trade, they need to get back expiring contracts

NY
i really dont see a randle as a bad contract neither the other players whos 1yr contract left as long as we could get their pick.

GSW
wiggins contract is awful and theres not debatable but he can be useful replacement for ddr. Plus 2nd pick. Its worth to consider.

DET
the idea of bringing griffin is just stupid

Otherwise do we really need so much cap space in 2021?? San antonio isnt the favourite place for FAs + we wont be a contender so i dont see any reason why the best FAs would want to come here.

[BackHome]

Agreed 2021 as far as free agents is a pipe dream as big names will not come over knowing an organization change is right around the corner. The only hope is to tank in 2021 which New York and all the East teams will be doing hard and hope to get in the top 5.

[XDT76]

It's not about the big FA that we know the Spurs cannot get it's to provide the Spurs with more flexibility when going after players. If the Spurs is not over the Cap they could move any players instead of moving Bertans to sign Carroll

[venitian navigator]

NY
i really dont see a randle as a bad contract neither the other players whos 1yr contract left as long as we could get their pick.

GSW
wiggins contract is awful and theres not debatable but he can be useful replacement for ddr. Plus 2nd pick. Its worth to consider.

DET
the idea of bringing griffin is just stupid

Otherwise do we really need so much cap space in 2021?? San antonio isnt the favourite place for FAs + we wont be a contender so i dont see any reason why the best FAs would want to come here.

IMHO all tardes make sense, simply because our best way to find all star caliber players for our team and city is developing draft picks ....
Also the Detroit one (that's probably the most possible simply because we take back the horrible Griffin cotract for two years) simply because we looked to have interest in Doumbaya last draft and he's a profile we really need (mobile and athletic big).
It just depends if:
a) we are really kean on rebuild at the point of sacrificing our best players (like it or not DDR is our best player nowadays);
b) other teams are desperate enough to win now (being it to be again a title contender or finally be back on the play offs) to sacrifice good hopes of a good player (these are draft picks, also if lottery ones) for sure things...

Imho point a) should be a right choice, considering that the only limit to a rebuilding (also rebuilding on the fly) strategy was probably our playoffs streak record...that now has gone. The choice in this sense looks right also considering that most of our big players contracts (DDR, LMA, Lyles, Mills, Gay) will be over after next year, so being extremely valuable in a double sense of 1) being veterans contract of players well known to contribute immediately and b) being expiring contracts, giving the aquiring team the chance to choose in a year's space to extend said contracts or free their cap.

Point b) just depends by other teams strategies and opportunities...
Some teams, imho, desperately need veteran players kean to winning as their absolute priority, being ring chasing or just play offs for going out from a losing situation.

of the ring chasin teams, GS for example has no way to entice free agents (no more cap space) and a win now window...Phila looks the same (but they heve no lottery picks for us)
of the play offs chasing teams NY and Detroit are for sure good examples, but Charlotte could be another one
Another team in search for both (play offs and dreaming something more) but desperate for create a winning colture is Minny...

For some of these teams our veterans or some of them could rapresent the best opportunities to improve in the short term enough to help them in their immediate goals a lot more than a lottery draft pick, expecially in a draft considered lotery weak, could do ...

[TheCerebral1]

Good riddance. You're the definition of this team falling to "get ahead of the curve" before this team falls off a cliff. You're an AVERAGE Nba starter at best.

[TheCerebral1]

How do y’all feel about targeting Chris Paul for Demar?

I don’t hate the idea. Maybe we can also get a Future 1st if we throw in Murray.

Chris Paul/Patty
White/Lonnie
Johnson/Luka
LA/Lyles
Poetle/1st?

Can we stop living in "let's grasp for straws" mode. This team needs a rebuild and a 34 year old, doesn't get you out of the first round, most overrated PG of all time Chris Paul is not the answer, and just more delusional fans wanting grasp making the playoffs and being bounced.

[EasyMoney]

Can we stop living in "let's grasp for straws" mode. This team needs a rebuild and a 34 year old, doesn't get you out of the first round, most overrated PG of all time Chris Paul is not the answer, and just more delusional fans wanting grasp making the playoffs and being bounced.



Take Chris Paul out of okc and they're last seed in the west instead of taking Houston to 7 games. Chris Paul would be a great buffer and he can be a great mentor to derrick white and others. But not at the expense of giving up young players.