****OFFICIAL Week 4 Game Thread, Sponsored By The First COVID-19-Postponed Game of 2020****

[DAF86]

What a rotten-ass Sunday.

Goodell, please cancel the season NOW. It's not worth it, putting these guys' lives in jeopardy, and this season has been an absolute shitshow/abortion unlike no other. Just cancel it. NOW.

Don't be a sore loser bro. :lol Season has actually been pretty decent all things considered. Unprecedented scoring and some classic games/chokes already.

Besides, chances are your Cowboys still get to 6 wins and win the division, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

Eagles are leading their division. :lmao:lmao:lmao

Everybody shiting on Pederson for playing it safe and conserving the tie. In this shitty ass division, one less game on the loss column is a win, tbh. :lol

[FrostKing]

I know they are riddled with injuries but the Niners' only 2 wins came vs the two worst teams in the NFL by far, tbh.
2-2 is okay. 2 close losses. Defense needs to step up a notch for playoff push in 2nd Half

#2 seed is pointless in 2020 with no homefield advantage

[FrostKing]

Niners prolly only win 5-6 games this year. They desperately need a QB.
Jimmy is returning :lol

[Robz4000]

Jimmy is returning :lol

Crappolo is awful.

[FrostKing]

Crappolo is awful.
I'm more concerned without Bosa. Another DE went down today.

[Robz4000]

I'm more concerned without Bosa. Another DE went down today.

All the injuries will be the main reason they win so few games tbh, but the QB situation will add to the woes.

[FrostKing]

All the injuries will be the main reason they win so few games tbh, but the QB situation will add to the woes.
Still making playoffs buddy. Just gonna need to outscore quality opponents and yah Jimmy prob fall short at some point.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Week 4 Predictions:

DEN @ NYJ - Terrible primetime game. The Jets stink, but the Broncos are annihilated by injuries. This could go either way.

BAL @ WAS - In RG3's return to Washington as a Raven, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens bounce back against a quite-inferior opponent and crush the Nobodies.
LAC @ TB - Major mismatch on paper, but the Chargers' pass rush could give the Bucs' questionable offensive line problems. Brady should throw quickly and ardently.
SEA @ MIA - Upset of the week. Russell Wilson falls back to Earth, and the Dolphins unexpectedly shine. Wilson and Seattle tend to lose these AFC east coast away games.
MIN @ HOU - Neither team has started well, but at least with Houston you can blame the schedule. The Vikings might be COVID-infected, and should tank in any case.
NO @ DET - Possibly an upset, but New Orleans will continue to disappoint, at least until Thomas returns. The Lions are better than their record.
CLE @ DAL - Should be a high-scoring affair, but Dallas should score piles of points as long as the offensive line can keep Myles Garrett under control.
JAX @ CIN - Joe Burrow returns from a weird tie game to get his first official victory. Will there be a crowd in Cincy?
IND @ CHI - With Big Dick Nick Foles in the fold, the Bears should shine on both sides of the ball. The Colts are as mediocre (not bad, but 7-9ish) as it gets.
AZ @ CAR - Kyler Murray and the Cardinals rebound and decapitate a much worse team on both sides of the football.
NYG @ LAR - This should not be an issue for the Rams, who should be 3-0 if not for a terrible game-changing, ticky-tack flag on 4th down.
BUF @ LV - The Raiders recover and go home and improve to 3-1, in the process defeating the league's most overrated team in a possible shootout.
NE @ KC - Kansas City just keeps comin'. Belichick won't have quite enough answers this time without the GOAT. Real fans will be there.
PHI @ SF - This should be another huge mismatch. Both sides are suffering key injuries, but the 49ers are still rolling and the Eagles just look pathetic.

ATL @ GB - A classic case of, team that is far better than their record vs. one worse than their record. The Packers fall to Earth and the Falcons finally don't choke.
4-9

[Millennial_Messiah]

4-9

Terrible. I had a monster 2016, so this is regression to the mean I guess.

I still think the Panthers should have kept Cam. With the current good coaching in place, etc they would be serious contenders with Newton instead of Bridgewater.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Assuming the Cowboys don't make it this year, my dream Super Bowl matchup is Seahawks-Chiefs. I'd say those are my 2 non-Cowboy favorite teams.

I really really like both QBs and would probably root for the Seahawks slightly in that situation because Mahomes is younger and would have more opportunities, but I wouldn't be upset either way.

Also wouldn't be upset if the Bucs won it, because that would be a heck of a story.

As long as Smugface Rodgers and Green Gay lose, I'm pacified.

[GAustex]

Plenty of room on the Green Bay bandwagon
Come on MM join us on our righteous march

[spurraider21]

panthers 2-0 without CMC :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

panthers 2-0 without CMC :lol
Ezekiel Elliott ~55 yards per game this year.
Todd Gurley washed up.
Dalvin Cook huge yards not translating to wins.

#dontpayrunningbacks

by the time Jacobs is past year 5, he'll be past his prime anyway, so the raiders might as well let him go, take the nice comp pick and draft his replacement. that's smart general management/cap management.

[SpursforSix]

panthers 2-0 without CMC :lol

Not that I'm saying Davis is better than CMC but this is just more fodder to support that the idea that scheme and other offensive personnel might have more to do with success than the RB's actual talent.
The reality is that great RBs don't create a lot of wins.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not that I'm saying Davis is better than CMC but this is just more fodder to support that the idea that scheme and other offensive personnel might have more to do with success than the RB's actual talent.
The reality is that great RBs don't create a lot of wins.

on the other hand, having a QB that goes for 475 yards and 3-4 TDs every game doesn't guarantee a W, either, tbh

[SpursforSix]

on the other hand, having a QB that goes for 475 yards and 3-4 TDs every game doesn't guarantee a W, either, tbh

Dak sucked yesterday. He should have had a few more interceptions. But I don't know that any QB wins with that defense. If this is what they're building on, I might agree with you about not paying Dak at this point. At least more than 30 per.
But they fucked themselves by paying Zeke instead of Dak at the time.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dak sucked yesterday. He should have had a few more interceptions. But I don't know that any QB wins with that defense. If this is what they're building on, I might agree with you about not paying Dak at this point. At least more than 30 per.
But they fucked themselves by paying Zeke instead of Dak at the time.

right, if Dak wanted to take a Brady approach to the team and winning by signing at, say, 27M/year (which is way more than anyone would need in a lifetime, plus all the endorsements of being the franchise Dallas Cowboys QB which doesn't count against the salary cap) I would be 100% on board. 10years/270 million fully guaranteed, let's go (Dak is like Wilson in that he doesn't get injured, so there's that). But any more than that and it's just not worth it.

Dak's main problem is that he loses a fumble on a strip sack EVERY SINGLE GAME. His mediocre play and turnovers in the 1st half always take the team out of the run game early and then in the second half with the team trailing double digits, he stat pads like it's Madden on rookie mode because the other team reverts to soft zone/prevent defense. That wasn't just the theme of this year, it was last year too.

I'm all for trading DeMarcus Lawrence + a mid round pick to just get his contract off the books. The dude is useless at his price. Zeke is overpaid and he's not elusive, and he doesn't always pick up the 3rd & 1 or goal-to-go from the 1 like his rookie year either. Jaylon Smith is another guy who shouldn't have been paid what he got. He is a horrible tackler. At times he looks like he's playing flag football out there.

[Mark Celibate]

right, if Dak wanted to take a Brady approach to the team and winning by signing at, say, 27M/year (which is way more than anyone would need in a lifetime, plus all the endorsements of being the franchise Dallas Cowboys QB which doesn't count against the salary cap) I would be 100% on board. 10years/270 million fully guaranteed, let's go (Dak is like Wilson in that he doesn't get injured, so there's that). But any more than that and it's just not worth it.

Dak's main problem is that he loses a fumble on a strip sack EVERY SINGLE GAME. His mediocre play and turnovers in the 1st half always take the team out of the run game early and then in the second half with the team trailing double digits, he stat pads like it's Madden on rookie mode because the other team reverts to soft zone/prevent defense. That wasn't just the theme of this year, it was last year too.

I'm all for trading DeMarcus Lawrence + a mid round pick to just get his contract off the books. The dude is useless at his price. Zeke is overpaid and he's not elusive, and he doesn't always pick up the 3rd & 1 or goal-to-go from the 1 like his rookie year either. Jaylon Smith is another guy who shouldn't have been paid what he got. He is a horrible tackler. At times he looks like he's playing flag football out there.

Yeah, seemed like 90% of his completions in the 2nd half were checkdowns, quick slants, and curl routes with no defender within 6 feet of the receiver. He did have some good ones though I'll admit. A couple of seam routes where he threaded the needle, and that one near the sideline where he snuck it over the corner toward the end of the game. I just rarely see those shots downfield on the seam routes until they get down double digits and he's forced to make something happen. Still seems too timid early on when the games are still within one score

[SpursforSix]

right, if Dak wanted to take a Brady approach to the team and winning by signing at, say, 27M/year (which is way more than anyone would need in a lifetime, plus all the endorsements of being the franchise Dallas Cowboys QB which doesn't count against the salary cap) I would be 100% on board. 10years/270 million fully guaranteed, let's go (Dak is like Wilson in that he doesn't get injured, so there's that). But any more than that and it's just not worth it.

Dak's main problem is that he loses a fumble on a strip sack EVERY SINGLE GAME. His mediocre play and turnovers in the 1st half always take the team out of the run game early and then in the second half with the team trailing double digits, he stat pads like it's Madden on rookie mode because the other team reverts to soft zone/prevent defense. That wasn't just the theme of this year, it was last year too.

I'm all for trading DeMarcus Lawrence + a mid round pick to just get his contract off the books. The dude is useless at his price. Zeke is overpaid and he's not elusive, and he doesn't always pick up the 3rd & 1 or goal-to-go from the 1 like his rookie year either. Jaylon Smith is another guy who shouldn't have been paid what he got. He is a horrible tackler. At times he looks like he's playing flag football out there.

Agree with this.

As to the other comments, I'm a Dak supporter. But there's no where else he can go and have these kind of weapons around him. He's not Wilson by a long shot. It's going to be interesting to see what happens if they somehow miss the playoffs and have to make a franchise tag decision. I can't see Dak backing off his contract demands.

[spurraider21]

this one stung

1313141908227715072

#15 had to be about 0.5 yards further behind the LoS. ended up kicking a FG that drive. this and the Waller fumble while in scoring position are what buried the team. cant be making those kinds of mistakes against a team with firepower like buffalo

[spurraider21]

also wtf pats are starting hoyer tomorrow? :lol... what happened to Stidham being the starter they had confidence in?

[SpursforSix]

also wtf pats are starting hoyer tomorrow? :lol... what happened to Stidham being the starter they had confidence in?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MiserableColorlessIbizanhound-small.gif

[Darth_Pelican]

also wtf pats are starting hoyer tomorrow? :lol... what happened to Stidham being the starter they had confidence in?

Game is tonight. MNF doubleheader :tu

[spurraider21]

Game is tonight. MNF doubleheader :tu
oh shit, yeah. forgot.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Agree with this.

As to the other comments, I'm a Dak supporter. But there's no where else he can go and have these kind of weapons around him. He's not Wilson by a long shot. It's going to be interesting to see what happens if they somehow miss the playoffs and have to make a franchise tag decision. I can't see Dak backing off his contract demands.
If we miss the playoffs and Dak wants 40 million a year, he can hit the road jack honestly. And it's not because he's a "bad" QB. He's just not a Tier 1 QB. If you pay a Tier 2 QB like Prescott Tier 1 money, your team will inevitably suffer and they might make the playoffs every other year or so but they won't have enough talent to be a Tier 1 team with a Tier 2 QB making Tier 1 QB money.

Exhibit A to my point: Stafford and the Lions (yes, I know NOW he's making Tier 2 money, but it was Tier 1 at the time). Stafford is a very good Tier 2 quarterback, though.

The only alternative is paying Dak the Watson contract, and jettisoning Lawrence, Jaylon Smith, Crawford (he's on his last year anyway), and Zeke, eating all the dead cap in 2021, lowering Dak's initial cap hit to make it work with all that lost dead money, re-signing Aldon Smith (shouldn't be too expensive), drafting a stud RB in the 3rd-4th round to replace Zeke (they can be had there!) and pretty much rebuilding the defense outside of Diggs, Aldon Smith, Gregory, Leighton (if he's healthy), Joe Thomas, and the cheap youngsters like Gallimore and Hill. Note that guys like Awuzie, Poe and Lewis are likely goners in free agency too, and I won't be upset one bit.

[spurraider21]

Bill O'Brien fired

[leemajors]

Congrats benefactor

[Robz4000]

About time imo.

[spurraider21]

:lmao hoyer

how much must stidham have sucked?

[GAustex]

KC ref going hard in the paint

[i'm_still_beta]

Hoyer :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Hoyer :lmao
FFS

And NotPatriotRef?!!!!
Stunning!

[i'm_still_beta]

FFS

And NotPatriotRef?!!!!
Stunning!

Come on. Pats had as much ref help as every team with a star QB

[Robz4000]

How the fuck do you play Hoyer over Stidham, even if he outperformed him during practice? You know Hoyer sucks already.

[spurraider21]

:lmao hoyer

[spurraider21]

How the fuck do you play Hoyer over Stidham, even if he outperformed him during practice? You know Hoyer sucks already.
this is why i wasnt buying the pats to be a good team until Cam looked as good as he did

[i'm_still_beta]

Imagine Cam instead of Hoyer. Chiefs would've been destroyed today

[GAustex]

So sad to see the hallowed grounds of legendary Lambeau Field empty.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That is a horse manure, ticky tack call. Cheatriots in full effect.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Cheatriots 3
Refs 7
Chiefs 13

[Robz4000]

Stidham looks good, not sure what the fuck Belichick was thinking?

[Millennial_Messiah]

So sad to see the hallowed grounds of legendary Lambeau Field empty.

Yeah. Too bad it's not a pile of scorched rubble, tbh.

[GAustex]

So salty

[Monostradamus]

STUDHAM

[Millennial_Messiah]

Stidham looks good, not sure what the fuck Belichick was thinking?

Does Newton get his job back, tbh? Stidham looked like Brady out there, especially with the ticky tack pass interference on 3rd down. :lmao But seriously, he throws a legit spiral and an accurate ball, like Brady in his prime. His voice even SOUNDS like Brady's for some odd reason in the snap count cadences. And KC has a real crowd and real fan noise.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why is KC wasting downs/snaps on running the ball? They're only up 3, not 30... THROW THE BALL. You have Mahomes, fatass dumbass Reid.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Patrick Divac

[Millennial_Messiah]

stop running the ball, seriously. It doesn't work.

[Millennial_Messiah]

yeah Belichick has called a defensive masterpiece tonight, but wtf was that...? :lol 3 man rush on 3rd and long

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Edelman, just like the Baltimore game last year... what a fuckup

Mathieu gets back the interception he deserved last possession but the refs cheated him out of it.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol that throw.

There is Gronk and there is Not Gronk. 85 is Not Gronk.

[Robz4000]

:lol that pick six did me in this week in fantasy unless Rodgers goes HAM

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol that pick six did me in this week in fantasy unless Rodgers goes HAM

It's the Failcons defense. Dak the Quack threw for 475 against the Failcons... what else do you expect? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

I have a gut feeling that DQ is going to get DQ'd tomorrow.... any takers?

[Robz4000]

It's the Failcons defense. Dak the Quack threw for 475 against the Failcons... what else do you expect? :lol

They'll prolly run the ball most of the second half tbh. I need Rodgers to score two more TDs to win most likely. Down 11 now but the guy I'm playing has Ridley.

[Robz4000]

:lol knew they were gonna pull this shit

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol knew they were gonna pull this shit
are they going to out falcon the falcons tbh and save dan quinn's job for yet another season with a "galvanizing unlikely road win du jour"? :lol

[Robz4000]

are they going to out falcon the falcons tbh and save dan quinn's job for yet another season with a "galvanizing unlikely road win du jour"? :lol

If they come out running the ball like that on their next possession with the Falcons missing all their safeties they deserve to choke.

[phxspurfan]

Needed 1 more lousy point from Mahomes or Watkins to win. Instead, Belichick runs the clock out the entire 4th quarter when down by 17. Nice.

[GAustex]

After a while it’s almost boring...
Almost

[Robz4000]

One more TD, Rodgers...

[GAustex]

Oh crap
Rodgers limping

[Robz4000]

:lmao I lost by 0.2 points

[GAustex]

Week 4 Predictions:

...
ATL @ GB - A classic case of, team that is far better than their record vs. one worse than their record. The Packers fall to Earth and the Falcons finally don't choke.

Son I hope you ain't throwing real money away...

[MultiTroll]

Come on. Pats had as much ref help as every team with a star QB
Tonights game?
I just watched snippets.
That INT that was ruled.....wtf was it ruled i had sound down, multitasking. But zebras totally burned Chiefs and gave ball back to Chiefs.
How the H did Bellichek not challenge that?

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 4 Predictions:

DEN @ NYJ - Terrible primetime game. The Jets stink, but the Broncos are annihilated by injuries. This could go either way.

BAL @ WAS - In RG3's return to Washington as a Raven, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens bounce back against a quite-inferior opponent and crush the Nobodies.
LAC @ TB - Major mismatch on paper, but the Chargers' pass rush could give the Bucs' questionable offensive line problems. Brady should throw quickly and ardently.
SEA @ MIA - Upset of the week. Russell Wilson falls back to Earth, and the Dolphins unexpectedly shine. Wilson and Seattle tend to lose these AFC east coast away games.
MIN @ HOU - Neither team has started well, but at least with Houston you can blame the schedule. The Vikings might be COVID-infected, and should tank in any case.
NO @ DET - Possibly an upset, but New Orleans will continue to disappoint, at least until Thomas returns. The Lions are better than their record.
CLE @ DAL - Should be a high-scoring affair, but Dallas should score piles of points as long as the offensive line can keep Myles Garrett under control.
JAX @ CIN - Joe Burrow returns from a weird tie game to get his first official victory. Will there be a crowd in Cincy?
IND @ CHI - With Big Dick Nick Foles in the fold, the Bears should shine on both sides of the ball. The Colts are as mediocre (not bad, but 7-9ish) as it gets.
AZ @ CAR - Kyler Murray and the Cardinals rebound and decapitate a much worse team on both sides of the football.
NYG @ LAR - This should not be an issue for the Rams, who should be 3-0 if not for a terrible game-changing, ticky-tack flag on 4th down.
BUF @ LV - The Raiders recover and go home and improve to 3-1, in the process defeating the league's most overrated team in a possible shootout.
NE @ KC - Kansas City just keeps comin'. Belichick won't have quite enough answers this time without the GOAT. Real fans will be there.
PHI @ SF - This should be another huge mismatch. Both sides are suffering key injuries, but the 49ers are still rolling and the Eagles just look pathetic.

ATL @ GB - A classic case of, team that is far better than their record vs. one worse than their record. The Packers fall to Earth and the Falcons finally don't choke.

5-10 straight up :lmao

Avante-esque

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/6vwkkbZ/Screen-Shot-2020-10-05-at-10-22-59-PM.png

[DAF86]

Pats win that game with a starting caliber QB, tbh. Bellichick is the GOAT.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Son I hope you ain't throwing real money away...

:lol No real money lost, but in terms of Zynga hold`em, I'm a multi millionaire.

[Millennial_Messiah]

5-10 straight up :lmao

Avante-esque

Yep. Absolutely lousy.

So, I promised people yesterday that if the Cowboys lost AND the Falcons lost to GB that I'd miss a week on the NFL forum. So I'm a man of my word and now it's your responsibility Darth_Pelican to make the Week 5 game thread. Please try to stick to my format and think of a clever "sponsorship" title as per our community ritual.

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2020&wk=4 The maps come out Wednesday (tomorrow) around lunch time.

Also, watch out for Delta. Fingers crossed. :toast

~Andrew out~

[Mark Celibate]

Yep. Absolutely lousy.

So, I promised people yesterday that if the Cowboys lost AND the Falcons lost to GB that I'd miss a week on the NFL forum. So I'm a man of my word and now it's your responsibility Darth_Pelican (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=22958) to make the Week 5 game thread. Please try to stick to my format and think of a clever "sponsorship" title as per our community ritual.

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2020&wk=4 The maps come out Wednesday (tomorrow) around lunch time.

Also, watch out for Delta. Fingers crossed. :toast

~Andrew out~

rofl see you tomorrow brah