NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

[ducks]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season



Take that pop !

[Leetonidas]

Who cares

[ZeusWillJudge]

LOL. If Pop is really committed to his beliefs, he'll quit in protest of Silver's decision.

[koriwhat]

LOL. If Pop is really committed to his beliefs, he'll quit in protest of Silver's decision.

:tu

[SpurSpike]

So i guess they saw the ratings eh? lol

[TheGoatishere]

If it really bothers you that much you issues

[rjv]

If it really bothers you that much you issues

it's long since been established that ducks has issues.

[elbamba1]

Not much of a story here. I will only be back if Forbes and Marco are gone or limited to 12 man status. Can't suffer through another season of their crap basketball.

[koriwhat]

lol maybe the nba should have a commissioner that actually looks like he's played bball before. this goon ain't nothing more than a shit lawyer.

[GAustex]

Strange how nba missed so badly “reading the room”

[Chinook]

I mean, was this supposed to be a permanent thing? I think if it were, it'd be even less effective than it already was. My guess is that the NBA wants to go back to normal next season. No bubble, regular jerseys, what not. Conservatives keep overestimating their power to change services they don't typically use. The NBA isn't hurting because random dudes like ducks aren't watching (or rather are watching but crying about it). It's crazy that the same folks bitching about "cancel culture" have no issue trying to cancel or celebrating the perceived cancellation of things they don't like.

[Dirks_Finale]

I mean, was this supposed to be a permanent thing? I think if it were, it'd be even less effective than it already was. My guess is that the NBA wants to go back to normal next season. No bubble, regular jerseys, what not. Conservatives keep overestimating their power to change services they don't typically use. The NBA isn't hurting because random dudes like ducks aren't watching (or rather are watching but crying about it). It's crazy that the same folks bitching about "cancel culture" have no issue trying to cancel or celebrating the perceived cancellation of things they don't like.

If you went to HEB to get your groceries and their employees kept giving you lectures on political matters, you'd likely tell them to **** off and just shop elsewhere. And rightfully so because you don't go there for that.

No different with sports. We watch it to be entertained, not to be lectured by spoiled athletes.

Lastly, many of us on the conservative side very much agree that some police reform should take place. Black lives matter - no sh1t, Sherlock, every decent human agrees with that. We don't need lectures on it in any form or fashion.

[widowmaker]

Who cares im not watching the finals cause the lakers are boring and Miami doesn’t have what it takes, they’re a cinderella team and it just struck midnight.

[Chinook]

Anyone who thinks China is leftist is a fucking idiot. I can agree to disagree with conservatives civilly. I can even caucus with them on things. But anarchy is leftist. Totalitarianism is far right. Know the fucking difference and stop saying stupid shit.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I mean, was this supposed to be a permanent thing? I think if it were, it'd be even less effective than it already was. My guess is that the NBA wants to go back to normal next season. No bubble, regular jerseys, what not. Conservatives keep overestimating their power to change services they don't typically use. The NBA isn't hurting because random dudes like ducks aren't watching (or rather are watching but crying about it). It's crazy that the same folks bitching about "cancel culture" have no issue trying to cancel or celebrating the perceived cancellation of things they don't like.


Oh horseshit. Silver said himself: “And I understand those people who are saying ‘I’m on your side, but I want to watch a basketball game.’”

It's a response to people who aren't watching because they don't want politics blended into their sports. You're right... the NBA isn't hurting because "random dudes" aren't watching. They're hurting because "Game 1 of the NBA Finals saw only 7.1 million viewers, which is the lowest figure for any Finals Game 1 this century."

"Dudes" :lmao Hold onto those platform shoes, Barbarino. Disco will be back any day now.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Anyone who thinks China is leftist is a fucking idiot. I can agree to disagree with conservatives civilly. I can even caucus with them on things. But anarchy is leftist. Totalitarianism is far right. Know the fucking difference and stop saying stupid shit.


That's because you have the historical perspective of a goldfish. The term started in France, and it wasn't about anarchy, it was about revolution. (Not all revolutions are anarchist.) Later the Bolsheviks fell in love with the French Revolution and wanted to take the left wing's ideology to the next level. So "left wing" became associated with socialist/communist revolution. Words and ideas evolve. Fucking troglodytes like you don't.

The irony of you telling someone else to stop saying stupid shit is almost too much. :lol

[daslicer]

Anyone who thinks China is leftist is a fucking idiot. I can agree to disagree with conservatives civilly. I can even caucus with them on things. But anarchy is leftist. Totalitarianism is far right. Know the fucking difference and stop saying stupid shit.

Most of these idiots don't know what communism is. It's just a defense word they will use when they disagree with any social or economic policy that the left supports.

[Chinook]

That's because you have the historical perspective of a goldfish. The term started in France, and it wasn't about anarchy, it was about revolution. (Not all revolutions are anarchist.) Later the Bolsheviks fell in love with the French Revolution and wanted to take the left wing's ideology to the next level. So "left wing" became associated with socialist/communist revolution. Words and ideas evolve. Fucking troglodytes like you don't.

The irony of you telling someone else to stop saying stupid shit is almost too much. :lol

You think you're countering my point, but you're reinforcing it. China isn't meaningfully communist, which is why they aren't leftist. Basically for it's whole existence it's been a far right ethnostate which practiced aggressive ethnic cleansing and a strong central authority (or authorities when talking about the various civil wars).

I bet you also think the DRC is also leftist because they have the word "Democratic" in their name.

[Chinook]

If you went to HEB to get your groceries and their employees kept giving you lectures on political matters, you'd likely tell them to **** off and just shop elsewhere. And rightfully so because you don't go there for that.

No different with sports. We watch it to be entertained, not to be lectured by spoiled athletes.

Lastly, many of us on the conservative side very much agree that some police reform should take place. Black lives matter - no sh1t, Sherlock, every decent human agrees with that. We don't need lectures on it in any form or fashion.

I'm not going to go in on the point of BLM (the phrase, not the movement) or police reform in this thread. That wasn't my point. My point was that the folks who are triggered enough by the "lecturing" aren't enough to meaningfully affect the NBA's bottom line. That's even more true because many of the most vocal nay-sayers still watch the games. The NBA's emphasis on BLM was always going to be temporary. If it's just part of the games from now on, people will tune it out like breast cancer and the NFL.

[Chinook]

Oh horseshit. Silver said himself: “And I understand those people who are saying ‘I’m on your side, but I want to watch a basketball game.’”

It's a response to people who aren't watching because they don't want politics blended into their sports. You're right... the NBA isn't hurting because "random dudes" aren't watching. They're hurting because "Game 1 of the NBA Finals saw only 7.1 million viewers, which is the lowest figure for any Finals Game 1 this century."

"Dudes" :lmao Hold onto those platform shoes, Barbarino. Disco will be back any day now.

Did you look at the NHL ratings? My guess is no, because you're stuck on this shitty narrative that the NBA's social message explains a meaningful part of their decline in ratings.

[paperboy77]

Like I've said many times over... they wore out their welcome by a mile!!!!! In a tiny way it really isn't the players fault. They have ZERO business in politics. Players are pro's at hoops while these old ass DC folks are pro's at politics. STAY IN YOUR LANE! How quickly they forget what Stern pulled them out of. But that's what happens when the "oppressed" get their time in the spotlight... they overdo it and in the end become as shitty as what they supposedly were fighting against! NBA may have just fucked themselves. I'll still watch like the core fans watched in the 80's and early 90's. The casual fan, the paying fan is OUT!

[paperboy77]

Did you look at the NHL ratings? My guess is no, because you're stuck on this shitty narrative that the NBA's social message explains a meaningful part of their decline in ratings.

Yeah.. their shitty rules of soft-ass defense and the emphasis on the 3-ball has a role. But largely it's this bullshit BLM stuff and these players faking their assess off by pretending to be just an average, everyday guy.

BTW the NHL still sucks and their popularity has steadily and consistency been shit compared to other sports.

[Chinook]

Yeah.. their shitty rules of soft-ass defense and the emphasis on the 3-ball has a role. But largely it's this bullshit BLM stuff and these players faking their assess off by pretending to be just an average, everyday guy.

BTW the NHL still sucks and their popularity has steadily and consistency been shit compared to other sports.

NHL and MLB have both struggled this year in comparison to previous years. It's not just an NBA problem. It's not largely to due with BLM or anything like that. That's because the die-hard conservative NBA fan -- which is already a rare thing anyway -- didn't stop watching the games behind this. They, like their more liberal counterparts, either watched or didn't based on a lot of factors that had nothing to do with politics. The decline in cable ownership, the weird schedule for most of the bubble, and the basic depression hanging over the country right now were much bigger factors.

Personally, I only watch the NBA while the Spurs are playing. I agree with a BLM message, but that isn't nearly enough to get me to care about basketball after the Spurs are eliminated. My guess is it's basically the same for my conservative counterparts. They might have different lines that me, but I doubt any but a handful of posters here would not still be watching the games if the Spurs were in the Finals, BLM/SJW slogans or no.

[widowmaker]

War is being waged through the internet net waves that we can not see. How will we make our enemies come out so we can vanquish them is the real question.

[daslicer]

I notice that that Lefty Brownshirt Useful idiot Chinook still hasen't addressed how Teams in high rent NY,LA,CHICAGO are going to address the impending loss of revenue as their cities and states are facing a Socioeconomic Meltdown? Adam Silver coulnd't have picked a worse time to get on the wrong side of the majority of his fans by having millionaire athletes scold them on shit they are looking to sports to distract them from as they are loosing jobs and trying to get food on the table. Baseball still hasn't recovered from the mid season Strike of the early 1990s and went from America's Past time to the Past BDQ and that was just a STRIKE. This has been much worse and will more long lasting.

I fully expect one of the Giant Media Companies that own NETWORKS to go under because of this. The Company that pays the NBA Billions of $$ in TV Revenue DISNEY is going to be hardest hit out of the 4 and its only a matter of time before there bottom line bottoms out. They Made BILLIONS from MOVIES and that isn't happening anytime soon when movie theater chains are closing down and Families have to be Judicious on where they spend that entertainment dollar.

If we are being honest all of sports are dead outside of the NFL. NBA,MLB,NHL,PGA,Nascar all have had terrible ratings.

[koriwhat]

I notice that that Lefty Brownshirt Useful idiot Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) still hasen't addressed how Teams in high rent NY,LA,CHICAGO are going to address the impending loss of revenue as their cities and states are facing a Socioeconomic Meltdown? Adam Silver coulnd't have picked a worse time to get on the wrong side of the majority of his fans by having millionaire athletes scold them on shit they are looking to sports to distract them from as they are loosing jobs and trying to get food on the table. Baseball still hasn't recovered from the mid season Strike of the early 1990s and went from America's Past time to the Past BDQ and that was just a STRIKE. This has been much worse and will more long lasting.

I fully expect one of the Giant Media Companies that own NETWORKS to go under because of this. The Company that pays the NBA Billions of $$ in TV Revenue DISNEY is going to be hardest hit out of the 4 and its only a matter of time before the bottom line bottoms out. They Made BILLIONS from MOVIES and that isn't happening anytime soon when movie theater chains are closing down and Families have to be Judicious on where they spend that entertainment dollar.

here here!! let them all crash and burn! :tu

[Chinook]

Drew, shut the fuck up man. You're as bad at political discourse as you are at making YouTube videos.

[313]

It's crazy that the same folks bitching about "cancel culture" have no issue trying to cancel or celebrating the perceived cancellation of things they don't like.

[The Truth #6]

The economy is falling apart all across the country. I don’t think an embrace of BLM is the driving force, just to be extremely obvious, it’s the pandemic.

The NBA had to do a superficial support of BLM to keep the season going. It’s not superficial compared to how the NFL reacted to Colin Kaepernick, but it’s not like it is really going to change much. The workers flexed some muscle, and got some acknowledgment from the league. Good for them. I find this much better of a way for players to use their power than how evil nephew and other superstars use their leverage for personal reasons which only screws over franchises. I suppose for the traumatically-brain-injured Archie Bunkers out there, some banners are too much to handle. Whatever. It’s a black players’ league. Seems idiotic for the league to alienate their workers who are the product.

[TD 21]

:lmao Still pretending human rights and science are politics because the disgrace you people elected as president has tried to politicize virtually everything and his ignorant base laps it up because they've been brainwashed and kept in the dark their entire lives and are incapable of thinking for themselves. Dumbest country on earth.

:wakeup

[BacktoBasics]

Too Late, the League has been irrevocably damaged by this bone headed move. Its a CCP sponsored Game going forward. I only see league wide contraction soon with big market teams like LA, Clippers, Bulls, Nicks, Nets and others that who will soon be in a Sate or City that are in Social Economic Free falls. One of the two LA Teams Both the NY Teams, and Chicago could all GO AWAY or merge.

Hollywood Movie Industry is headed to Oblivion as Movie theaters chains around the country go bankrupt. NY Elite Rich have Fled so who will pay the see Dolenz Shitty Nicks in "THE GARDEN" as its in the Middle of New Detroit? Chicago is the US Beirut and when that State goes Insolvent; Micheal Jordan isn't walking in that door. So Who is paying for those Expensive court side seats and more importantly the CORPORATE SUITS in the Future?

They WENT WOKE and are SOON TO BE BROKE.
Your fear mongering lunacy is exactly why people like you have become irrelevant. You’re a fucking moron.

[Chucho]

It's amazing how people are denying this even minimally.

Yes, it did have something to do with it. You're a liar or tool if you don't think so.

How can a society that gets it's rocks off calling people racists not think this massive society of racists wouldn't tune out?

If anything, this should be an angle the racist- identifiers would embrace to help prop their narrative up.

That said, it absolutely had a hand in the 70% fall in ratings. Comparing it to hockey is asinine considering how much more popular basketball is across the nation and how visible LBJ has been with his "activism".

[cd98]

Silver probably saw the NBA ratings in the bubble when they had the sports world to themselves and opted for a neutral NBA.

[paperboy77]

https://i.imgur.com/WUDAVUi.jpg

DOWN GOES DISNEY (https://www.outkick.com/espn-bracing-for-major-cost-cuts/), and NY, LA, Chicago Market NBA teams with them and that FAT Tv Contract. CONTRACTION of those big

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IndolentDeafeningBlacklemur-size_restricted.gifhttps://i.imgflip.com/4dqrkd.jpg


Like Howard Stern Beetlejuice right?

[paperboy77]

The economy is falling apart all across the country. I don’t think an embrace of BLM is the driving force, just to be extremely obvious, it’s the pandemic.

The NBA had to do a superficial support of BLM to keep the season going. It’s not superficial compared to how the NFL reacted to Colin Kaepernick, but it’s not like it is really going to change much. The workers flexed some muscle, and got some acknowledgment from the league. Good for them. I find this much better of a way for players to use their power than how evil nephew and other superstars use their leverage for personal reasons which only screws over franchises. I suppose for the traumatically-brain-injured Archie Bunkers out there, some banners are too much to handle. Whatever. It’s a black players’ league. Seems idiotic for the league to alienate their workers who are the product.

Don't forget the workers there are there for the money.

[GAustex]

Drew is rendering asunder...
But should go easier on White

[The Truth #6]

So people have NOTHING ELSE DO, no movies, no bars, no no no...

Nothing to do because of "the Pandemic" EXCEPT simply WATCH the sports on the TV, on an App, ect....

but they DON'T and you conclude ITS JUST THE PANDEMIC.

Spurstalk Eyetester decision Trees on Display....

I’m trying to understand your point. Are you saying that ratings are down for the NBA but not anywhere else?

[The Truth #6]

Too far above the rim for a plebe like you. I win. You lose.

I ask you to try and clarify what it is that you’re saying, and for the first time ever you have nothing to say. That’s hilarious. So. Much. Winning.

[koriwhat]

Your fear mongering lunacy is exactly why people like you have become irrelevant. You’re a fucking moron.

the truth hurts i guess... coping mechanism is what you're pushing.

[Barfunk]

Lol Ronald Stump. Fuck that guy and his retarded ass cult members.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'm damn sure not watching LeBron Lakers and Miami isn't an exciting team either lol

Nevermind the rest of the craziness in this country.

Oh wait... no the real issue is the Qanon and MAGA people not watching.

Please, oh Silent Majority, please watch basketball with us.

[playblair]

get woke go broke
snowflake lefties dont watch sports

[mo7888]

Anyone who thinks China is leftist is a fucking idiot. I can agree to disagree with conservatives civilly. I can even caucus with them on things. But anarchy is leftist. Totalitarianism is far right. Know the fucking difference and stop saying stupid shit.

So Venezuela is far right?

They are both totalitarian at the extremes.

[BacktoBasics]

Math is Fear Mongering? Economics is Fear Mongering? Basic Accounting Ledgers are Fear Mongering?

I don't think you know what Math, Economics, Accounting or Fear Mongering means?

Why am I not surprised that you’re attempting to characterize heavily biased political driven propaganda and opinions as “fact”. Where have we seen that before?

I tell you what. Stand by your words. If the league doesn’t contract any teams by the start of next season you quit the forum and never come back.

So go on and take that bet. After all its a fact.

[SpurSpike]

Don't get caught up in definitions of left and right.

Its simple really. If you want the government to have more control and raise taxes and you want less control for your individual state then vote democrats.

If you want less government control and less taxes and more decisions to be made at the state level vote republican.

It really is that simple!

[daslicer]

Don't get caught up in definitions of left and right.

Its simple really. If you want the government to have more control and raise taxes and you want less control for your individual state then vote democrats.

If you want less government control and less taxes and more decisions to be made at the state level vote republican.

It really is that simple!

If you want corporations to be deregulated and have more power and control over their employees vote republican. Agreed it's really that simple.

[lefty]

:lol Damn, Trump Supporters are sensitive SNOWFLAKES

[SpurSpike]

If you want corporations to be deregulated and have more power and control over their employees vote republican. Agreed it's really that simple.

I'm looking at the big picture here.

Your looking at a very specific issue. Is that the major reason you are a democrat? Is that one topic important enough for you give up more power to the government?

Do you think that those giant corporations will pay more taxes with no other consequences to the people? If you tax them more you are going to start seeing higher prices from those corporations which mean in reality the people will also be paying more...

Like it or not low taxes for corporations help to keep those corporations in America. They are free to leave for greener pastures if things start stacking against them here and if that happens, jobs will be lost.

Also corporations don't have power and control over their employees, the employees are free to work wherever they choose.

[Leetonidas]

Don't get caught up in definitions of left and right.

Its simple really. If you want the government to have more control and raise taxes and you want less control for your individual state then vote democrats.

If you want less government control and less taxes and more decisions to be made at the state level vote republican.

It really is that simple!

Hilarious and terrible oversimplification considering the republican candidate is constantly abusing the executive power and trying to consolidate more power to himself :lol

[exstatic]

I'm looking at the big picture here.

Your looking at a very specific issue. Is that the major reason you are a democrat? Is that one topic important enough for you give up more power to the government?

Do you think that those giant corporations will pay more taxes with no other consequences to the people? If you tax them more you are going to start seeing higher prices from those corporations which mean in reality the people will also be paying more...

Like it or not low taxes for corporations help to keep those corporations in America. They are free to leave for greener pastures if things start stacking against them here and if that happens, jobs will be lost.

Also corporations don't have power and control over their employees, the employees are free to work wherever they choose.

There’s a level of control established by destroying the ability to obtain individual health care on the open market, by, say, reestablishing pre existing conditions. That’s the reason for the dismantling of the ACA. Unless you are from money, and go to law, medical, or dental school, it’s impossible to start something solo, or a small business if you have a preexisting condition. The insurance costs way too much, if you can even get it. BTW, COVID will be considered as such, with the after effects of those who survive.

[Play Boban]

The nba is pathetic. This should’ve been permanent but no of course the commissioner would sellout like they all do!!

[daslicer]

I'm looking at the big picture here.

Your looking at a very specific issue. Is that the major reason you are a democrat? Is that one topic important enough for you give up more power to the government?

Do you think that those giant corporations will pay more taxes with no other consequences to the people? If you tax them more you are going to start seeing higher prices from those corporations which mean in reality the people will also be paying more...

Like it or not low taxes for corporations help to keep those corporations in America. They are free to leave for greener pastures if things start stacking against them here and if that happens, jobs will be lost.

Also corporations don't have power and control over their employees, the employees are free to work wherever they choose.

1.Corporations are going to outsource jobs regardless of how much taxes they pay. Low taxes actually don't keep jobs in America. After the tax deductibles and accounting loop holes are factored in corporations in America actually hardly pay anything and they are a lot of companies that pay 0 taxes. With this factored in they will still open up a factory in China simply because they can pay factory workers there shit pay that is way below minimum wage along with not having to provide them health care. I'm seeing my own company now even outsource white collar jobs to India despite making record profits. They are in the process of downsizing certain departments and outsourcing them to India simply because they can pay Indians lesser pay.

2. Like the previous poster Exstatic mentioned corporations want to have control over people through healthcare and hence the push to get rid of preexisting conditions protection clause.

3 I mentioned the pre-existed conditions example but I will also throw in another one. Employers in the tech industry are forcing people to sign non-competes. Non-Competes are agreements in which the employee agrees to never go to a rival company or later on become self employed in the same type of field they were employed for by the employer.

5. Historically corporations will always go all out to abuse their employees and give them as little rights as possible. This was evident during the early 20th century in America when people were getting hurt and even killed on the job without the employer having to face any legal consequences. It wasn't until the government passed regulations to protect the employees that ended these awful practices

6. I don't believe in the supply side bs. You are never going to sell that to me. The idea is ridiculously stupid especially when republicans complain about the debt and don't factor in the only source we can use to pay down our debt is tax revenue. When you lower taxes you will get lower revenue and in return explode debt.

7. Freedom is really an illusion. The government and corporations will always have some control over your life. It comes down to how much control you want either side to have over your life. I do believe there is a balancing act that needs to play out and right now corporations have way too much power over people with their abuses.

[BacktoBasics]

Don't get caught up in definitions of left and right.

Its simple really. If you want the government to have more control and raise taxes and you want less control for your individual state then vote democrats.

If you want less government control and less taxes and more decisions to be made at the state level vote republican.

It really is that simple!

These are the half truths politicians want you to believe. You want simplicity? Neither side of the isle truly helps the average working family. Any benefit you get is only a result of someone with much deeper pockets benefiting more.

[tbdog]

The NBA players actually shot themselves in the foot by boycotting games when police shot a wanted armed rapist, getting into a car and potentially kidnapping kids.

[TDMVPDPOY]

havnt watch much sports this year, let alone any spurs games since kawhi left...only just watch weekly game highlights on yt...

dont have time for that crap, too busy working in this shitty economy

[Play Boban]

I’m not sure I’m going to watch another game unless black lives matter is in the court tbh.

[SupremeGuy]

It's crazy that the same folks bitching about "cancel culture" have no issue trying to cancel or celebrating the perceived cancellation of things they don't like.Demanding that someone is fired/doxxing people/etc. isn't the same thing as people losing interest because a false narrative is trying to be shoved down their throats.

[Chinook]

Demanding that someone is fired/doxxing people/etc. isn't the same thing as people losing interest because a false narrative is trying to be shoved down their throats.

Yes it is.

[SupremeGuy]

Yes it is.Nope.

[Chinook]

Nope.

It is. You're just so stuck in your echo chamber that you think there's this big divide in how conservatives and liberals treat things they don't like.

Think about how often people call for cancellations on this site and which side of the aisle they're on. You aren't going to find a bunch of liberals screeching about that shit, because outside of Twitter compilations, folks don't really care that much.

And shit like doxxing is not close of a liberal or conservative thing. It's not even political thing. Folks get doxxed for all kinds of stupid reasons.

[Indianman]

1.Corporations are going to outsource jobs regardless of how much taxes they pay. Low taxes actually don't keep jobs in America. After the tax deductibles and accounting loop holes are factored in corporations in America actually hardly pay anything and they are a lot of companies that pay 0 taxes. With this factored in they will still open up a factory in China simply because they can pay factory workers there shit pay that is way below minimum wage along with not having to provide them health care. I'm seeing my own company now even outsource white collar jobs to India despite making record profits. They are in the process of downsizing certain departments and outsourcing them to India simply because they can pay Indians lesser pay.

2. Like the previous poster Exstatic mentioned corporations want to have control over people through healthcare and hence the push to get rid of preexisting conditions protection clause.

3 I mentioned the pre-existed conditions example but I will also throw in another one. Employers in the tech industry are forcing people to sign non-competes. Non-Competes are agreements in which the employee agrees to never go to a rival company or later on become self employed in the same type of field they were employed for by the employer.

5. Historically corporations will always go all out to abuse their employees and give them as little rights as possible. This was evident during the early 20th century in America when people were getting hurt and even killed on the job without the employer having to face any legal consequences. It wasn't until the government passed regulations to protect the employees that ended these awful practices

6. I don't believe in the supply side bs. You are never going to sell that to me. The idea is ridiculously stupid especially when republicans complain about the debt and don't factor in the only source we can use to pay down our debt is tax revenue. When you lower taxes you will get lower revenue and in return explode debt.

7. Freedom is really an illusion. The government and corporations will always have some control over your life. It comes down to how much control you want either side to have over your life. I do believe there is a balancing act that needs to play out and right now corporations have way too much power over people with their abuses.

What company you working in bro?

Also, being an Indian myself, I'd have to remind you of the fact that Indians don't care about that work-life balance bullshit. We as a nation don't mind working 6 days week totalling 80 hours including travel. It's just how we're wired.

Agree with the rest of your pointers.

[dbreiden83080]

Also the owners likely will be a little bit pissed off if players decide to boycott games because the cops shot somebody. That’s not something that’s going to happen again.

Money talks the ratings are in the toilet.

[Prose]

If you went to HEB to get your groceries and their employees kept giving you lectures on political matters, you'd likely tell them to **** off and just shop elsewhere. And rightfully so because you don't go there for that.


no you wouldnt, you would still go to heb bc they are the best in town, just like you still watched the spurs games in the bubble

[Dirks_Finale]

no you wouldnt, you would still go to heb bc they are the best in town, just like you still watched the spurs games in the bubble

There are other options available.

And I rarely watched any of the bubble games this year. Maybe one whole game if you combine all the portions of games I watched throughout.

[Play Boban]

If you went to HEB to get your groceries and their employees kept giving you lectures on political matters, you'd likely tell them to **** off and just shop elsewhere. And rightfully so because you don't go there for that.

No different with sports. We watch it to be entertained, not to be lectured by spoiled athletes.

Lastly, many of us on the conservative side very much agree that some police reform should take place. Black lives matter - no sh1t, Sherlock, every decent human agrees with that. We don't need lectures on it in any form or fashion.
I wish HEB was more socially responsible, but they’ve been silent. Silence is violence.

[JPB]

Some people here really have no life, tbh :lol

-"you're stupid, I'm smarter than you!"
- "No, You"re the dumb one, I'm the smart guy!"
-"I'm so right, you're so wrong!"
- No, I'm so right, you're so wrong!"
- No, that's me, loser!

Looks like all the online weirdos have converged over here, sometimes.

I'm so smart.

[dbestpro]

It is ironic that the only color in basketball that matters is orange.

[OldMan88]

It is ironic that the only color in basketball that matters is orange.

In pro basketball or any other pro sport, the only color that matters is green... as in money.

It’s not just the luxury box sales that impact team profits... it’s season ticket sales and TV revenue. The per game tick sales are unpredictable for most teams and is tied to wins/losses. If you piss away ANY of those revenues by alienating half of the customer base for any reason, you’re going to be out of business. Players & coaches are employees and are under contract to “work”, however that is defined in the contract. The business (team) fails, those players & coaches are out of a job. Enough teams fail, the league is out of business.

Some additional comments:

1. A Corporation is nothing more than the legal method of defining the ownership of a business entity. People who assign human traits (those evil corporations) are either idiots, or worse... manipulative of an uninformed audience.
2. Business entities (Corporations, Partnerships, LLC’s, LLP’s, etc) don’t pay taxes. People (customers) pay taxes when they purchase the product or service. Whatever taxes ANY business incurs are a cost component in determining the price of the product or service. If that tax cost is too high, the business will either move to a lower tax location or go out of business.
3. Money is nothing more than a tradable representation of the value of a person’s labor & assets.
4. When government sets ANY minimum wage, they are excluding from the workforce people who’s labor isn’t worth that much (yet) to a potential employer due to deficiency of skills, knowledge, experience or any other trait necessary to perform the task. Excluding this many people from the workforce is the ultimate in governmental cruelty.

[Longlonglongtimelurk]

Some people here really have no life, tbh :lol

-"you're stupid, I'm smarter than you!"
- "No, You"re the dumb one, I'm the smart guy!"
-"I'm so right, you're so wrong!"
- No, I'm so right, you're so wrong!"
- No, that's me, loser!

Looks like all the online weirdos have converged over here, sometimes.

I'm so smart.
Message boards like this are a beacon for low socio economic folk who really have nothing better in their life than escapism on an Internet forum. Unfortunately they bring their personality with them and hence Internet forums are a swamp full of vitriolic and childlike banter. Throw politics into the mix where every jerkoff thinks their opinion is all that matters and here we are on Spurstalk, discussing politics in basketball.

[Spurtacular]

Meanwhile, the poor EPL players still have to kneel for paychecks.

[Budkin]

It was a fantastic campaign. Mad props to the NBA!

[rjv]

Anyone who thinks China is leftist is a fucking idiot. I can agree to disagree with conservatives civilly. I can even caucus with them on things. But anarchy is leftist. Totalitarianism is far right. Know the fucking difference and stop saying stupid shit. the drewshitshow and stupidity pretty much go hand in hand.

[SupremeGuy]

It is. You're just so stuck in your echo chamber that you think there's this big divide in how conservatives and liberals treat things they don't like.

Think about how often people call for cancellations on this site and which side of the aisle they're on. You aren't going to find a bunch of liberals screeching about that shit, because outside of Twitter compilations, folks don't really care that much.

And shit like doxxing is not close of a liberal or conservative thing. It's not even political thing. Folks get doxxed for all kinds of stupid reasons.People lost interest. That's not cancel culture. Smh.

[Chinook]

People lost interest. That's not cancel culture. Smh.

Okay, so "Cancel Culture" isn't actually a thing at all. Not for liberals or conservatives. It's only a term because conservatives who have long been used to their consumer interests dominating the market, find themselves almost powerless against current market forces. Whether one loses interest out of protest or out of ennui, the effect is the same. You and I apparently both stopped watching the NBA, and I'm assuming we stopped for the same reason. The difference is that I'm totally fine saying the reason -- that the product wasn't and usually isn't good enough to keep my interest when SA isn't playing. While you are trying to derive a bit of power from claiming that the relative minority of folks that agree with your political views actually had a noticeable sway on the NBA's policy.

It's always been a thing that folks will stop supporting people or companies who do things they don't like. I could list obvious examples like Bill Mahr's show on ABC or the Dixie Chicks as times when conservatives totally actively boycotted and removed media they didn't like. But honestly, the entire idea of censorship for TV and radio came from conservatives bitching about not wanting to hear about certain concepts or language. It's honestly crazily tone-deaf of boomers and their ilk to even come up with idea that it's some new, liberal term seeing as they spent their youths fighting the same pressures from their parents.

So yeah, I agree. People just lost interest. It's not cancel culture. Nothing is. So go ahead and tell that to the OP and not me.

[SupremeGuy]

Okay, so "Cancel Culture" isn't actually a thing at all. Not for liberals or conservatives. It's only a term because conservatives who have long been used to their consumer interests dominating the market, find themselves almost powerless against current market forces. Whether one loses interest out of protest or out of ennui, the effect is the same. You and I apparently both stopped watching the NBA, and I'm assuming we stopped for the same reason. The difference is that I'm totally fine saying the reason -- that the product wasn't and usually isn't good enough to keep my interest when SA isn't playing. While you are trying to derive a bit of power from claiming that the relative minority of folks that agree with your political views actually had a noticeable sway on the NBA's policy.

It's always been a thing that folks will stop supporting people or companies who do things they don't like. I could list obvious examples like Bill Mahr's show on ABC or the Dixie Chicks as times when conservatives totally actively boycotted and removed media they didn't like. But honestly, the entire idea of censorship for TV and radio came from conservatives bitching about not wanting to hear about certain concepts or language. It's honestly crazily tone-deaf of boomers and their ilk to even come up with idea that it's some new, liberal term seeing as they spent their youths fighting the same pressures from their parents.

So yeah, I agree. People just lost interest. It's not cancel culture. Nothing is. So go ahead and tell that to the OP and not me.You're being intellectually dishonest.

Liberals try to "cancel" people by harassment.

Everyone else just simply chooses not to partake in something.

Those aren't the same things.

[FrostKing]

You're being intellectually dishonest.

Liberals try to "cancel" people by harassment.

Everyone else just simply chooses not to partake in something.

Those aren't the same things.
Corporations are kneeling (no pun intended) to pressure from social media. I believe they still don't understand how this outlet is over-represented by certain demographics. Also media has a progressive scope. They will focus on stories/events that are important to certain group. In the big picture this back fires in Elections as people, especially in America do not respond positively to pressure. Many of us escaped mistreatment and persecution.

[Chinook]

You're being intellectually dishonest.

Liberals try to "cancel" people by harassment.

Everyone else just simply chooses not to partake in something.

Those aren't the same things.

Nah. You're just stuck in your echo chamber. "Liberals" don't try to do anything, just like "conservatives" don't. SOME people have more extreme ways of responding to things they don't like. That can be doxxing. That can be harrassing. That can be screeching on Twitter. That can be death threats. That folks overreact to things is not even slightly political.

The reason why you show such limited perspective on that is that you're get filtered information that highlights when liberals screech online but then presents conservative response as if it's reasonable. Folks burning Nikes, shooting their Keurigs and flushing Gillettes down toilets isn't simply choosing not to partake. It, like all the online harrassment, is an attempt to force change through collective market action. Conservatives really can't do that with most things anymore because rather than being "everyone else" they are a minority who are so insular on most things that their comparative market share is too low to overcome more general support. Nike didn't change their tune due to the "choosing not to partake" because they didn't have to; the folks who bought their stuff BECAUSE they did things like have Kaep on their ads far outweighed the few conservatives who were buying Nikes. That wasn't the case with SNL viewers and Shane Gillis. Liberals owned the market share, so they could more easily affect change through their displeasure.

See, back in the day, conservatives values (at least projecting the current conservative standards back to the day) were held by the vast majority of people with power in the country. That's why folks like John Wayne could be huge stars despite being reprehensible human beings while Ray Charles could literally be banned from a state for not agreeing to sing at a segregated club. Folks were "cancelled" as much then as they are now. George Carlin had a huge fight with folks trying to stop him in the 70s. Ali had fights cancelled just for saying he wouldn't go to Vietnam if drafted (he was banned before they actually tried to draft him). The Beatles had to apologize for suggesting they were bigger than Jesus. I could go on.

Nowadays, it's way more acceptable to have liberal values than conservative. That's because the denial of liberal values is seen as a bigger deal globally -- like being bigoted is just seen as being worse than being unpatriotic in the West. It's also because conservatives have a much smaller population than their political power would suggest. The Overton window for the politicians is center-right just like Romney said. But the window for the people is slightly left of center, much more in line with the rest of the West.

[Chinook]

Corporations are kneeling (no pun intended) to pressure from social media. I believe they still don't understand how this outlet is over-represented by certain demographics. Also media has a progressive scope. They will focus on stories/events that are important to certain group. In the big picture this back fires in Elections as people, especially in America do not respond positively to pressure. Many of us escaped mistreatment and persecution.

Yeah, no. The reason why the media seems biased to the left is exactly what I said my previous post. The majority of the population is liberal. That's why the democrats keep winning the popular vote despite having shitty turnout. And the media isn't left when compared to the rest of the West. It just seems that way because American politics is artificially forced to the right because of the senate and EC over-representing conservative interests. If you seriously think like ABC and CBS are on the left, you'd choke if you actually heard leftist media.

[FrostKing]

Yeah, no. The reason why the media seems biased to the left is exactly what I said my previous post. The majority of the population is liberal. That's why the democrats keep winning the popular vote despite having shitty turnout. And the media isn't left when compared to the rest of the West. It just seems that way because American politics is artificially forced to the right because of the senate and EC over-representing conservative interests. If you seriously think like ABC and CBS are on the left, you'd choke if you actually heard leftist media.
Population majority Liberal? Not sure.

For example Hispanics. They are conservative just tend to support social benefits when first immigrating. Especially health care. 1st and 2nd generation steadily moves right.

But that is a fair argument. This is afterall the West and one of the farthest left leaning nations on the Planet. Just as liberals leave nations categorized conservative, people leaning conservative are free to do so from the USA.

[Chinook]

Population majority Liberal? Not sure.

For example Hispanics. They are conservative just tend to support social benefits when first immigrating. Especially health care. 1st and 2nd generation steadily moves right.

But that is a fair argument. This is afterall the West and one of the farthest left leaning nations on the Planet. Just as liberals leave nations categorized conservative, people leaning conservative are free to do so from the USA.

You're not wrong that folks can be basically conservative but have that one key (self-interested) issue that makes them democrats. That's long been true of southern black people. I think it's a bigger change than that, though, because the RNC has barely had to move to the left over the years. Like yeah, it's no longer okay to be openly homophobic. But you can still "defend the sanctity of marriage" and get away with it. You can't be stupid and say things about "legitimate rape", but you damned sure can force women to have kids they don't want while also withholding the social help that those parents needs.

Don't paint me as a guy who think the GOP is all evil/wrong and the Dems are all right. Both sides are responsible for the Overton window shifting. Both sides constantly ignore real-world problems. But if the goal is to have the majority ideology, the Republicans have to come off some of their social conservatism. Things like anti-Islamic emphasis and anti-evolution curricula are just not popular anymore. In a US without the Senate and EC, the GOP would have to adapt their platform to get more moderates. But because they are so good at playing the political game, they don't really have to care that their policies are increasingly unpopular.

[SupremeGuy]

You're not wrong that folks can be basically conservative but have that one key (self-interested) issue that makes them democrats. That's long been true of southern black people. I think it's a bigger change than that, though, because the RNC has barely had to move to the left over the years. Like yeah, it's no longer okay to be openly homophobic. But you can still "defend the sanctity of marriage" and get away with it. You can't be stupid and say things about "legitimate rape", but you damned sure can force women to have kids they don't want while also withholding the social help that those parents needs.

Don't paint me as a guy who think the GOP is all evil/wrong and the Dems are all right. Both sides are responsible for the Overton window shifting. Both sides constantly ignore real-world problems. But if the goal is to have the majority ideology, the Republicans have to come off some of their social conservatism. Things like anti-Islamic emphasis and anti-evolution curricula are just not popular anymore. In a US without the Senate and EC, the GOP would have to adapt their platform to get more moderates. But because they are so good at playing the political game, they don't really have to care that their policies are increasingly unpopular.I agree with most of your stances in that comment.

You started implying dumb shit like anti-islam and anti-evolution. Heels Up Harris literally said she won't take a potential chinese flu vaccine. You can't claim to be pro-science and anti-vaxx at the same time. Anti-islam? No one gives a shit about islam. Terrorists and countries that harbor them? Yeah, that's never going to be ok. That goes for any country, regardless of their religious affiliation.

I think this meme explains a lot.

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/400x/72994724.jpg

[Chinook]

I agree with most of your stances in that comment.

You started implying dumb shit like anti-islam and anti-evolution. Heels Up Harris literally said she won't take a potential chinese flu vaccine. You can't claim to be pro-science and anti-vaxx at the same time. Anti-islam? No one gives a shit about islam. Terrorists and countries that harbor them? Yeah, that's never going to be ok. That goes for any country, regardless of their religious affiliation.

I think this meme explains a lot.

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/400x/72994724.jpg

I don't want to get too far down the political rabbit hole (really in general, but specifically) in a thread on the main Spurs forum. I will say I have no idea what Kamala (if that's who Heels Up Harris is -- I genuinely don't know) thinks about vaccines or why. I don't care. I don't know if your news is painting this type of picture, but many folks on the Left hate Harris and Biden and are only voting for them because of the alternative. I'm not voting for them because they embody my values or whatever. Regardless, yes you can totally be pro-science and anti-certain-things-that-come-from-science. Being an anti-vaxer in general would certainly imply someone is ignoring science. Not wanting to be among the first people to take a new vaccine aligns just fine with a scientific skepticism. I don't know if "chinese flu" is your way to saying corona or if it's literally a flu vaccine that was made in China for some reason. As said, if it's the former, I understand what Harris is saying. If it's the latter, it seems weird to have to consider since we make plenty of flu vaccines here in the US, but it would seem needlessly xenophobic to declare.

And yeah, there's actually a lot of straight bigotry against Islam and Muslims on the Right. I'm not saying that applies to you. I can believe just fine that you honestly don't care what other people choose to believe in so long as they leave you alone. I think a lot of conservative people probably agree with you. That's actually a center-left position that aligns much more with the will of the West. The issue is that because of the reasons I mentioned before, the political Overton window is significantly further to the right than the position you hold, and a lot of conservative politicians and talking heads make no distinction between the Islamic nations we happen to have political conflicts with, the people who follow Islam and the religion itself. You have made the decision to ignore what those folks say about Islam or shunt it into just being about certain countries. But a lot of people who would probably lean conservative in other circumstances see guys like Prager, Carlson, Crowder, Shapiro or Benjamin shitting on the religion and go "Yeah, I'm going to stay out of this one."

Your constant desire to defend conservatism with broad strokes isn't serving you well here, and it runs counter to the meme you posted (which obviously has like a billion issues on its own). You're trying to walk the line between "everyone is an individual with their own beliefs who should respect the rights of others to have those beliefs" and "there's totally this conflict between folks who believe this and believe that and the side I'm not on is totally being the extreme one", and it doesn't work.

[TimDunkem]

I don't want to get too far down the political rabbit hole (really in general, but specifically) in a thread on the main Spurs forum. I will say I have no idea what Kamala (if that's who Heels Up Harris is -- I genuinely don't know) thinks about vaccines or why.
It's pretty simple. She said she wouldn't take a politically motivated, rushed Trump vaccine. As always, the right has nothing else at this point but to take clear, unambiguous comments completely out of context and weaponize them.

[Trainwreck2100]

I agree with most of your stances in that comment.

You started implying dumb shit like anti-islam and anti-evolution. Heels Up Harris literally said she won't take a potential chinese flu vaccine. You can't claim to be pro-science and anti-vaxx at the same time. Anti-islam? No one gives a shit about islam. Terrorists and countries that harbor them? Yeah, that's never going to be ok. That goes for any country, regardless of their religious affiliation.

I think this meme explains a lot.

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/400x/72994724.jpg

She said she won't take a vaccine whose endorsement is Trump and Trump only, she said if the scientists said it was fine she would take the vaccine.

[KobesAchilles]

I like to troll Lebron and all but Adam Silver needs to take a good long look in the mirror at the shit show HE created. He’s like the boss that is great at everything but actually being a boss. He avoids confrontation. Defense tires you out? Let’s make more rules for offense. Too many back to backs? Let’s get rid of 70% of them. Too short an All-Star break? Let’s add on 4 more days. Not enough politics in sports? Let’s make nba even more political. Not enough public access of your message? Let’s paint it on the court and put it on the back of jerseys. Don’t feel like playing a playoff game? Let’s postpone it a few days and take a vote on how you’re feeling.

The dude gets stepped on by every player and that’s seen as a great leader and commissioner. How about you bring back defense, tell the players to stop fucking saying the regular season doesn’t matter, fine the teams/players for obvious load management, take out politics and have the players do it in their own free time, and give the Bucks the L for refusing to play. I call it, the David Stern approach. Btw somewhere in Hell the devil is tormenting Stern by showing him this shit show. Look what’s happened to your life work. Bwahahaha

[Arcadian]

Well obviously. Did anyone think this was a permanent change? :lol

Corporations will only do things to appear virtuous for as long as people care about the issue enough to make them appear virtuous.

[dbreiden83080]

So where are all the trolls around this place that were yammering about how If you don’t support all of these social justice issues to the point that it’s OK that they walk off the court, you need to find a brand new league to watch? Apparently a lot of people weren’t down and tuned out. Duh. 6 million people watched the NBA finals. Jesus fucking Christ.

[dbreiden83080]

The nba is pathetic. This should’ve been permanent but no of course the commissioner would sellout like they all do!!
If the television ratings get much worse the NBA finals will be broadcast live on lifetime television.

[Chinook]

So where are all the trolls around this place that were yammering about how If you don’t support all of these social justice issues to the point that it’s OK that they walk off the court, you need to find a brand new league to watch? Apparently a lot of people weren’t down and tuned out. Duh. 6 million people watched the NBA finals. Jesus fucking Christ.

Sigh.


https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/sportsviewertrend-1.png.webp

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2020/10/nba-playoff-ratings-decline-finals-record-low-sports-viewership/

This is the real America, not the conservative fantasy where their views still reflect the will of the people. The NBA ratings tanked because EVERYTHING tanked, not because of politics. The WNBA is far more aggressively progressive than the NBA, and their ratings actually went up.

[dbestpro]

Sigh.

This is the real America, not the conservative fantasy where their views still reflect the will of the people. The NBA ratings tanked because EVERYTHING tanked, not because of politics. The WNBA is far more aggressively progressive than the NBA, and their ratings actually went up.

To be fair, it does not take a whole lot of people to increase stats on the WNBA as there were not too many people watching it to begin with. Also, logic would dictate that people who were stuck at home are watching more TV so all of sports should have had increased viewership, but that did not happen for whatever reason. It's not like people just chose to go out to the movies or the mall instead.

[Chinook]

To be fair, it does not take a whole lot of people to increase stats on the WNBA as there were not too many people watching it to begin with. Also, logic would dictate that people who were stuck at home are watching more TV so all of sports should have had increased viewership, but that did not happen for whatever reason. It's not like people just chose to go out to the movies or the mall instead.

The biggest reason is likely that the sports were competing with each other. I could imagine the early bubble had strong numbers but as other sports started up it tanked. People forget that the bubble went on a long time, almost three months from scrimmages to Finals. I've also heard that cord-cutting was absurdly high because of there being no sports before, and indeed streaming numbers being up suggests that a lot of people found alternative avenues for their entertainment. I think too that folks underestimate the psychological toll this whole thing has taken on people's spirits. I only watch football right now because my team is doing well. I would probably be completely done with sports for the next few months if I were like a Giants fan.

[Play Boban]

The NBA is a white supremacist organization in which the white team owners make millions off the backs of their predominantly black players who work on the plantations for pennies on the dollar. It’s unbelievable. People talk about the NBA not being anti racist enough, but it’s not just that. The organization is built on the ashes of white supremacy and exists in a white supremacist country. The NBA is inherently racist. We need a new basketball league. If you are anti racist you will not watch the NBA anymore. This was my last straw.

[dbestpro]

The NBA is a white supremacist organization in which the white team owners make millions off the backs of their predominantly black players who work on the plantations for pennies on the dollar. It’s unbelievable. People talk about the NBA not being anti racist enough, but it’s not just that. The organization is built on the ashes of white supremacy and exists in a white supremacist country. The NBA is inherently racist. We need a new basketball league. If you are anti racist you will not watch the NBA anymore. This was my last straw.

How do you plan to finance this league with the salary requirements of the top players?
Also, if it is the racist history that is driving your rage then wouldn't you have the same rage for the democrat party?

[MultiTroll]

We need a new basketball league.
Didn't Jordan have everyone convinced to leave the Union and in a sense make a new league?
But Patrick Ewing wouldn't sign off?

[Sugus]

How do you plan to finance this league with the salary requirements of the top players?
Also, if it is the racist history that is driving your rage then wouldn't you have the same rage for the democrat party?

It's a troll, my guy, this is his most recent shtick. If you leave him alone, it'll eventually run its course, don't even bother.

[daslicer]

How do you plan to finance this league with the salary requirements of the top players?
Also, if it is the racist history that is driving your rage then wouldn't you have the same rage for the democrat party?

The guy you are responding to is a Trumper. He's trying to be clever by being sarcastic.

[dbestpro]

The guy you are responding to is a Trumper. He's trying to be clever by being sarcastic.

Not being sarcastic but was trying to provide cover for the NBA. Not a Trumper, but it is obvious you get triggered easily. Am a registered democrat and was once a member of the NAACP. I also have ran for school board and city council and lost twice and won twice, losing one time by 27 votes. Having said that I could care less what pundits say and will vote for the person who will put the most coin in the pocket of minorities.

[daslicer]

Not being sarcastic but was trying to provide cover for the NBA. Not a Trumper, but it is obvious you get triggered easily. Am a registered democrat and was once a member of the NAACP. I also have ran for school board and city council and lost twice and won twice, losing one time by 27 votes. Having said that I could care less what pundits say and will vote for the person who will put the most coin in the pocket of minorities.

I was was saying Play Boban is a Trumper. I wasn't calling you a Trumper. You misread what I said.

[Bill_Brasky]

:cry muh cancel culture :cry

[Rummpd]

Deep s•*+ however this plays out.

[Rummpd]

The NBA is a white supremacist organization in which the white team owners make millions off the backs of their predominantly black players who work on the plantations for pennies on the dollar. It’s unbelievable. People talk about the NBA not being anti racist enough, but it’s not just that. The organization is built on the ashes of white supremacy and exists in a white supremacist country. The NBA is inherently racist. We need a new basketball league. If you are anti racist you will not watch the NBA anymore. This was my last straw.

The league went about a far as any organization can on social justice, got rid of a racist owner and despite issues, has many positives going for it. I for one do not favor a new league.

[Dverde]

The league went about a far as any organization can on social justice, got rid of a racist owner and despite issues, has many positives going for it. I for one do not favor a new league.

They got rid of a racist owner that no body liked. The entire league wanted him out and he finally gave them an opening. No cookie for that one.

[koriwhat]

The NBA is a white supremacist organization in which the white team owners make millions off the backs of their predominantly black players who work on the plantations for pennies on the dollar. It’s unbelievable. People talk about the NBA not being anti racist enough, but it’s not just that. The organization is built on the ashes of white supremacy and exists in a white supremacist country. The NBA is inherently racist. We need a new basketball league. If you are anti racist you will not watch the NBA anymore. This was my last straw.

:lmao

[koriwhat]

get ready because you're going to be able to get served a burger by your favorite nba baller soon enough.... the bad thing is they'll only be playing ball at your neighborhood court instead.