SCOOP: Durham report to be released

[djohn2oo8]

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JK TSA. That shit ain’t coming you purple faggot

[Will Hunting]

:lmao

[baseline bum]

So Dear Leader is going to fire Barr for not arresting Biden now? So any bets who can take Barr's corruption up to the next level?

[djohn2oo8]

So Dear Leader is going to fire Barr for not arresting Biden now? So any bets who can take Barr's corruption up to the next level?

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[baseline bum]

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Just wondering who the bigger scumbag is to replace Barr. Louie Gohmert the new AG? Jeanine Pirro? AG PizzaGaetz?

[pgardn]

Barr did not see this type of behavior when he took the job?
There is no honor among thieves in Trump world. Off with his head.
Barr knows exactly who he is working for.

[Th'Pusher]

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Probably because it’s a nothingburger

[djohn2oo8]

Probably because it’s a nothingburger
It is and he knows it.

[djohn2oo8]

Just wondering who the bigger scumbag is to replace Barr. Louie Gohmert the new AG? Jeanine Pirro? AG PizzaGaetz?
Barr is as corrupt as they come. If he can’t get it done, nobody else will

[Will Hunting]

There’s no way Barr is holding off on releasing the Durham Report until after the election if it contained anything that marginalizes Obama/Biden. If it had anything that suggested illegal activity that report would have been released yesterday.

[pgardn]

There’s no way Barr is holding off on releasing the Durham Report until after the election if it contained anything that marginalizes Obama/Biden.

then he needs to make that clear to the yapping orange man.
or he needs to change something in the report and give it to the yapping orange man.

[hater]

There’s no way Barr is holding off on releasing the Durham Report until after the election if it contained anything that marginalizes Obama/Biden. If it had anything that suggested illegal activity that report would have been released yesterday.

Pretty sure lots of repugs would be implicated as well. Starting with Mccains dead body, Gaygrahm etc

Thats why most likely most will never be revealed

[Spurs Homer]

Hahahahahahaha!

comrade TSA

[boutons_deux]

Barr did not see this type of behavior when he took the job?
There is no honor among thieves in Trump world. Off with his head.
Barr knows exactly who he is working for.

Repugs gave Barr to Trash based on Barr's protecting the Iran-Contra criminals, including Pres GHW Bush

Adding Barr's commitment to an autocratic/no-oversight Exec, Barr knew exactly why he got the job

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William Barr Supported Pardons In An Earlier D.C. 'Witch Hunt': Iran-Contra

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/14/684553791/william-barr-supported-pardons-in-an-earlier-d-c-witch-hunt-iran-contra

[Spurs Homer]

Cue the deadbeat comrade TSA - rushing in to beg for his 2k ....in 5,4,3....

[DarrinS]

Meh, at least people now know muhRussia was complete bullshit

[Winehole23]

Meh, at least people now know muhRussia was complete bullshitditto Obamagate, tbh

[TSA]

Welcher who staked his reputation on the Mueller report tries to talk shit :lmao

[ElNono]

Welcher who staked his reputation on the Mueller report tries to talk shit :lmao

^ makes it personal, dodges the subject, sounds bitter. Not a good look, tbh...

[spurraider21]

if trump stays in office i'm pretty sure he's going to order his next AG to investigate Durham and Huber for protecting obama :lol

[TSA]

This barely scratches the surface of all the bullshit djohn pushed in the longest fail thread in ST history. And since he's too big of a pussy to step foot in that thread I'll just use this thread to mock him back into hiding, again.

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637400812412928

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637435818029058

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637460308566018

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637493594562560

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637528201760769

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637545872437249

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637583742816262

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637608241729538

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637623269928960

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637650360926208

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637677745528833

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637682657058827

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313672675651444739

[ChumpDumper]

TSA believed that Hillary Clinton trafficked and ate babies and posted about it nonstop.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol 4 years later still having a hardon for Hillary fucking Clinton. Trump could have pointed a special prosecutor like he said he would years ago, but he didn't, but she's still the fucking bad guy

[ElNono]

Who is Drew Holden and why should be we care about his tweets?

[ElNono]

:lol 4 years later still having a hardon for Hillary fucking Clinton. Trump could have pointed a special prosecutor like he said he would years ago, but he didn't, but she's still the fucking bad guy

Looks like they sent Durham fishing, and he couldn't come up with much of anything. Not in time anyways.

[spurraider21]

:lol 4 years later still having a hardon for Hillary fucking Clinton. Trump could have pointed a special prosecutor like he said he would years ago, but he didn't, but she's still the fucking bad guy
bruh they specifically appointed John Huber in fucking 2017 to investigate the Clinton Foundation :lol

and then more than a year and a half ago they appointed John Durham to investigate the opening of the Trump/Russia investigation for wrongdoing aka obamagate :lol

theyve come up with nothing

[Reck]

Posting a barrage of tweets no one will read hasn't worked since you started that shtick. Why are you still doing it, TSA?

[Spurminator]

This barely scratches the surface of all the bullshit djohn pushed in the longest fail thread in ST history. And since he's too big of a pussy to step foot in that thread I'll just use this thread to mock him back into hiding, again.

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637400812412928

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637435818029058

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637460308566018

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637493594562560

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637528201760769

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637545872437249

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637583742816262

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637608241729538

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637623269928960

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637650360926208

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637677745528833

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313637682657058827

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1313672675651444739

Hell of a meltdown.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1314539674170515457

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1314542169802366976

[DarrinS]

Hell of a meltdown.

Looks like a long list of receipts to me.

[Spurminator]

Looks like a long list of receipts to me.

Looks like a bunch of embedded tweets on a completely separate topic by a bitter Trump fanboy who won't get the pre election bombshell he was hoping for.

I told djohn on multiple occasions that he was overplaying his hand and that Russiagate probably wasn't going to bring down Trump. It doesn't make multiple years of Obama Spygate and Hillary-going-to-prison fanfic any less pathetic.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1314539674170515457

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1314542169802366976

I like Greenwald, but even he knows what matters is what you can prove in court.

[ElNono]

Looks like a bunch of embedded tweets on a completely separate topic by a bitter Trump fanboy who won't get the pre election bombshell he was hoping for.

I told djohn on multiple occasions that he was overplaying his hand and that Russiagate probably wasn't going to bring down Trump. It doesn't make multiple years of Obama Spygate and Hillary-going-to-prison fanfic any less pathetic.

Yeah, not defending djohn here either. He can fend for himself.

[spurraider21]

I like Greenwald, but even he knows what matters is what you can prove in court.
?

Greenwald is a journalist. im pretty sure he values a lot of things that arent necessarily proven in court

[Reck]

Looks like a long list of receipts to me.

So when Djohn posts a single tweet from Kyle, it is a meltdown. When TSA posts 50 of them in one post, they're receipts. :lol

[ElNono]

?

Greenwald is a journalist. im pretty sure he values a lot of things that arent necessarily proven in court

What I mean is, he's generally evidence based. He's made a career of releasing and commenting on legit material released by Snowden and similar whitleblowers.

[boutons_deux]

My guess is that Durham came up empty, even by Trash/his low bar, so they went after Hillary as backup.

[Spurs Homer]

BOOM!



:rollin:rollin

[koriwhat]

Barr did not see this type of behavior when he took the job?
There is no honor among thieves in Trump world. Off with his head.
Barr knows exactly who he is working for.

lmao so the past admin scum get a pass by you for their spy ring yet trump's the bad guy for wanting to follow the constitution, law, and order? what a joke!

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[ElNono]

:lol you hate to see it

[Cuck Ross]

In Durham probe, grand jury indicts attorney with ties to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign
A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has handed up an indictment of attorney Michael Sussmann for making a false statement to the FBI, as the bureau investigated the existence of an alleged secret communication channel between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank.



The indictment says that Sussmann, who is based in Washington, D.C., requested a meeting with the FBI general counsel at FBI headquarters in September 2016, in order to provide information that allegedly showed covert communications between the Trump Organization and the Russia-based bank.


But the U.S. alleges Sussmann was lying to the FBI general counsel in claiming that he was not bringing forward the information on behalf of a client. The FBI was led to think he was acting as a concerned citizen when in fact, according to the Justice Department, Sussmann had assembled the information on behalf of clients: Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and a tech executive. Sussmann had also previously represented the Democratic National Committee, too, in connection with an earlier cyber hack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/durham-report-probe-michael-sussmann-attorney-clinton-campaign/



Authorities Arrest Analyst Who Contributed to Steele DossierFederal authorities on Thursday arrested an analyst who in 2016 gathered leads about possible links between Donald J. Trump and Russia for what turned out to be Democratic-funded opposition research, according to people familiar with the matter.The arrest of the analyst, Igor Danchenko, is part of the special counsel inquiry led by John H. Durham (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/us/politics/durham-michael-sussmann-trump-russia.html), who was appointed by the Trump administration to scrutinize the Russia investigation for any wrongdoing, the people said.
Mr. Danchenko, was the primary researcher of the so-called Steele dossier (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html), a compendium of rumors and unproven assertions suggesting that Mr. Trump and his 2016 campaign were compromised by and conspiring with Russian intelligence officials in Moscow’s covert operation to help him defeat Hillary Clinton.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/igor-danchenko-arrested-steele-dossier.html

[spurraider21]

Making false statements to fbi significant and newsworthy offense now

[CosmicCowboy]

Making false statements to fbi significant and newsworthy offense now

That's their MO for both sides.

Get a death grip on their nuts with the "lying to FBI" thing and then go the immunity route to get them to spill their guts.

[Cuck Ross]

Making false statements to fbi significant and newsworthy offense now

Considering these lies underpinned the four FISA warrants on Carter Page, yeah, I'd say this is significant and newsworthy.

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[spurraider21]

That's their MO for both sides.

Get a death grip on their nuts with the "lying to FBI" thing and then go the immunity route to get them to spill their guts.
only works if they... you know... lie to the feds

[spurraider21]

Considering these lies underpinned the four FISA warrants on Carter Page, yeah, I'd say this is significant and newsworthy.

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was anything provided by sussman used in the warrant applications?

[Cuck Ross]

was anything provided by sussman used in the warrant applications?

Not that I'm aware of, what's your point? The lies by Igor Danchenko sure were and the indictment states those lies underpinned the four FISA warrants on Carter Page.

[Cuck Ross]

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[spurraider21]

the problem with the claim that "he lied in 2017 and therefore they knew it was a coverup" is that it doesnt follow. did they know at the time in 2017 he was lying? how does this tie into the warrants which were issued before these statements?

[spurraider21]

Not that I'm aware of, what's your point? The lies by Igor Danchenko sure were and the indictment states those lies underpinned the four FISA warrants on Carter Page.
his lies made in 2017 underpinned a warrant issued in 2016?

im not saying its not significant or that he doesnt deserve to face consequences for his actions. its just funny that you brushed off "false statements" charges as basically immaterial for the last 4 years

[CosmicCowboy]

only works if they... you know... lie to the feds

Telling the feds he was just giving them this shit as a "concerned citizen" when there was a clear paper trail of payments to him leading right back to the Clinton campaign was clearly a lie.

[spurraider21]

Telling the feds he was just giving them this shit as a "concerned citizen" when there was a clear paper trail of payments to him leading right back to the Clinton campaign was clearly a lie.
im aware. i never said he didint lie :lol

referring to your claim re:

their mo of getting a death grip on their nuts with "lying to the FBI" (which you put in quotes for some reason, almost implying its not even real)

im saying that "mo" only works if the person actually lies. they cant just make the charges up out of thin air

[Cuck Ross]

the problem with the claim that "he lied in 2017 and therefore they knew it was a coverup" is that it doesnt follow. did they know at the time in 2017 he was lying? how does this tie into the warrants which were issued before these statements?

Yes they knew he was lying in 2017.

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The Mueller investigation was a scam.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol TSA just moved his goalpost

[Spurs Homer]

Flynn lies to the fbi : maga response- “HERO!”

durham fabricates garbage for magats : maga response - (clutching pearls) - “lies are bad!”

[Cuck Ross]

his lies made in 2017 underpinned a warrant issued in 2016?

im not saying its not significant or that he doesnt deserve to face consequences for his actions. its just funny that you brushed off "false statements" charges as basically immaterial for the last 4 years


Steele started giving the FBI his reports in July 2016. Carter Page case opened by FBI August 2016.

[Cuck Ross]

https://twitter.com/Heminator/status/1456308088915562496

[ChumpDumper]

Flynn lies to the fbi : maga response- “HERO!”

durham fabricates garbage for magats : maga response - (clutching pearls) - “lies are bad!”

Oh, I don't think the charges are garbage. They look legit, but the people involved are such low level nobodies that TSA and the other Trumptards have to be prayingdog.gif that someone anyone in the world recognizes gets charged someday.

[Cuck Ross]

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1456309241917198340

[spurraider21]

Yes they knew he was lying in 2017.

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The Mueller investigation was a scam.
maybe im dense. where does this say they knew at the time that he was lying?

the mueller investigation wasn't a sham. it wasnt just into collusion efforts. it also looked into russia's efforts to interfere. indictments were delivered on that front. it also looked into obstruction of justice.

[Cuck Ross]

https://www.justice.gov/sco/pr/russian-national-indicted-making-false-statements-fbi

"The Special Counsel’s investigation is ongoing."

[Spurs Homer]

Oh, I don't think the charges are garbage. They look legit, but the people involved are such low level nobodies that TSA and the other Trumptards have to be prayingdog.gif that someone anyone in the world recognizes gets charged someday.



well


if you go into ANY investigation

looking for something/anything to refute what you ALREADY CONCLUDED

chances are you will find someone was careless, someone made a mistake or some paper was filed with sloppy work

when you go after informants who CONTRIBUTED for their own reasons - there will be something that isnt perfect

but having said all that

1) IG already concluded the investigation was properly begun - which magats IGNORE

2) Durhams magat hail mary finds a needle in a haystack in a properly predicated investigation and magats jizz their panties

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao TSA still following TechnoFog

Let us know what PrayingMedic and AR-15.com Deadpool lawyer say about this too.

[Cuck Ross]

maybe im dense. where does this say they knew at the time that he was lying?

the mueller investigation wasn't a sham. it wasnt just into collusion efforts. it also looked into russia's efforts to interfere. indictments were delivered on that front. it also looked into obstruction of justice.

Mueller investigation was a total scam. I don't believe his team was totally incompetent, they covered up what they found by not including it in the final report.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1456315001602551809

[spurraider21]

Mueller investigation was a total scam. I don't believe his team was totally incompetent, they covered up what they found by not including it in the final report.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1456315001602551809
so again, where does any of this say that when he lied in 2017 that they knew at the time he was lying?

[Cuck Ross]

so again, where does any of this say that when he lied in 2017 that they knew at the time he was lying?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21098453-govuscourtsvaed51569210

Page 17 and on in subsequent interviews.

[spurraider21]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21098453-govuscourtsvaed51569210

Page 17 and on in subsequent interviews.
can you identify where it says they knew he was lying at the time?

[Cuck Ross]

the mueller investigation wasn't a sham. it wasnt just into collusion efforts. it also looked into russia's efforts to interfere.

In your opinion was Mueller's team incompetent and just didn't find everything Durham found on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko or were they competent and they found the same information but covered it up by leaving it out of the final Mueller report?

(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
(2) any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation" (the Investigation).

[Cuck Ross]

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Brookings fellow, Comey BFF, and hoax dossier pusher Benjamin Wittes interviewing disgraced and terminated ex-FBI Peter Strzok about former Brookings fellow hoax pusher Igor Dashenko :lol

This is almost as bad as Clinton operative George Stephanapolous giving disgraced hoax dossier pusher Christopher Steele a prime time interview to try and clear his name :lol

[spurraider21]

^cant imagine who would sit down and watch that tbh :lol

honestly nothing beats mark fuhrman being Fox's chief correspondent on OJ's parole proceedings

[ElNono]

can you identify where it says they knew he was lying at the time?

This won't get answered.

[ElNono]

In your opinion was Mueller's team incompetent and just didn't find everything Durham found on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko or were they competent and they found the same information but covered it up by leaving it out of the final Mueller report?

(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
(2) any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation" (the Investigation).

It might have everything to do with newly uncovered evidence/testimony that now proves he lied back then.

There's a reason he's being charged now, and he wasn't charged in 2020, 2019, 2018, etc. by Durham or anybody else. Finding things is not complicated, proving things is.

[Cuck Ross]

can you identify where it says they knew he was lying at the time?June 2017. FBI brings up Dolan first. They knew they had communicated and knew Danchenko was lying about it.

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 2aff36b4-adc4-4cd1-a853-0fd534d825a4_1744x890.png

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 449d4f1d-e3f0-4513-a4a0-78e9ecee2f55_707x602.png

[Cuck Ross]

It might have everything to do with newly uncovered evidence/testimony that now proves he lied back then.

There's a reason he's being charged now, and he wasn't charged in 2020, 2019, 2018, etc. by Durham or anybody else. Finding things is not complicated, proving things is.

I'm not talking about the charges Durham is bringing. I'm talking about all of the evidence he is presenting. Mueller and his team had the same access yet none of this was disclosed in his report. Incompetence or cover up?

[spurraider21]

June 2017. FBI brings up Dolan first. They knew they had communicated and knew Danchenko was lying about it.

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 2aff36b4-adc4-4cd1-a853-0fd534d825a4_1744x890.png

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 449d4f1d-e3f0-4513-a4a0-78e9ecee2f55_707x602.png
nothing in those 2 photos are contradictory

do you know this man vs did this man provide this you with specific information

[Cuck Ross]

nothing in those 2 photos are contradictory

do you know this man vs did this man provide this you with specific information
FBI already knew Dolan gave Dachenko allegations that showed up in the company reports and later the Steele dossier.

[spurraider21]

FBI already knew Dolan gave Dachenko allegations that showed up in the company reports and later the Steele dossier.
i havet seen you post anything that documents your claim that the FBI knew at the time that he gave false statements

[Cuck Ross]

i havet seen you post anything that documents your claim that the FBI knew at the time that he gave false statements

I already told you page 17 and on. I can't copy paste the relevant portions from documentcloud.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21098453-govuscourtsvaed51569210

The FBI knew he talked to Dolan about allegations in the company report/dossier, the FBI asked him if he talked to Dolan about allegations in the company report/dossier and he lied and said no.

Now back to Mueller. Was his team incompetent or did they turn a blind eye to everything Steele/Sussman/Danchenko/Dolan? Rosenstein directed Mueller to investigate "(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)." Everything Durham is presenting would have arose from #2, which Mueller and his team were tasked to do.

[spurraider21]

I already told you page 17 and on. I can't copy paste the relevant portions from documentcloud.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21098453-govuscourtsvaed51569210

The FBI knew he talked to Dolan about allegations in the company report/dossier, the FBI asked him if he talked to Dolan about allegations in the company report/dossier and he lied and said no.

Now back to Mueller. Was his team incompetent or did they turn a blind eye to everything Steele/Sussman/Danchenko/Dolan? Rosenstein directed Mueller to investigate "(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)." Everything Durham is presenting would have arose from #2, which Mueller and his team were tasked to do.





that says what he lied about. that document doesnt say they knew at the time he was lying

[Cuck Ross]

that says what he lied about. that document doesnt say they knew at the time he was lyingYou think they just brought up Dolan out of the blue? :lol The FBI knew Danchenko and Dolan had been communicating about the company report/dossier. Read up on Olga Galkina, she was a friend of Danchenko and I believe the only Danchenko subsource the FBI directly interviewed. Galkina was in regular conversations with Dolan. Galkina was targeted under 702...FBI had her communications between Dolan and Danchenko. Revealed in the IG report.

Feels like you are just focusing on this one aspect so you don't have to talk about Mueller or his team. Second time you've ignored my question.

Was Mueller's team incompetent or did they turn a blind eye to everything Steele/Sussman/Danchenko/Dolan? Rosenstein directed Mueller to investigate "(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."

Everything Durham is presenting would have arose from #2, which Mueller and his team were tasked to do.

[spurraider21]

You think they just brought up Dolan out of the blue? :lol The FBI knew Danchenko and Dolan had been communicating about the company report/dossier. Read up on Olga Galkina, she was a friend of Danchenko and I believe the only Danchenko subsource the FBI directly interviewed. Galkina was in regular conversations with Dolan. Galkina was targeted under 702...FBI had her communications between Dolan and Danchenko. Revealed in the IG report.

Feels like you are just focusing on this one aspect so you don't have to talk about Mueller or his team. Second time you've ignored my question.

Was Mueller's team incompetent or did they turn a blind eye to everything Steele/Sussman/Danchenko/Dolan? Rosenstein directed Mueller to investigate "(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."

Everything Durham is presenting would have arose from #2, which Mueller and his team were tasked to do.

your question has a false premise unless you can corroborate the claim that mueller's team knew at the time that they were lied to. you can brush this off as "focusing on one aspect" but its pretty important as it relates to the premise of your question

[Cuck Ross]

your question has a false premise unless you can corroborate the claim that mueller's team knew at the time that they were lied to. you can brush this off as "focusing on one aspect" but its pretty important as it relates to the premise of your question

The FBI ran the questioning of Danchenko, not Mueller. I said the FBI knew Danchenko was lying. Questioning happened before Mueller was even appointed.

My comments on Mueller are a related but different topic. I want to know your thoughts on Mueller and his team. Durham has brought to light lots of incriminating evidence that never made it into the Mueller report, even though Rosenstein tasked Mueller to investigate any matters that arose during the investigation. What Durham is exposing clearly arose during the Mueller invest, why was none of it the Mueller report?

[spurraider21]

The FBI ran the questioning of Danchenko, not Mueller. I said the FBI knew Danchenko was lying. Questioning happened before Mueller was even appointed.

My comments on Mueller are a related but different topic. I want to know your thoughts on Mueller and his team. Durham has brought to light lots of incriminating evidence that never made it into the Mueller report, even though Rosenstein tasked Mueller to investigate any matters that arose during the investigation. What Durham is exposing clearly arose during the Mueller invest, why was none of it the Mueller report?
you havent demonstrated when anyone first knew he was lying

[Will Hunting]

Is Cuck Ross Derp? I can’t tell.

[Cuck Ross]

you havent demonstrated when anyone first knew he was lying
Whether you think I did or not has nothing to do with my questions about Mueller and his team you keep avoiding.

Why do you refuse to discuss Mueller and his team?

[spurraider21]

Whether you think I did or not has nothing to do with my questions about Mueller and his team you keep avoiding.

Why do you refuse to discuss Mueller and his team?
because otherwise your question re: mueller necessarily includes a false premise

that they knew or should have know at the time that this guy gave false statements

[Cuck Ross]

because otherwise your question re: mueller necessarily includes a false premise

that they knew or should have know at the time that this guy gave false statements
Are you really this dense or is this a deliberate attempt by you to play dumb and eventually get me so bored I just give up the conversation?

I never said Mueller should have known about Danchenko’s lies. I said the FBI knew about his lies. The FBI interview was before Mueller was appointed.

Now that we have cleared that up let’s move on to Mueller.

None of what Durham is now exposing was in the Mueller report, it should have been given the scope memo, but it wasn’t. Do you think Mueller and team investigated the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties and purposely left them out of the Mueller report or were they incompetent or negligent and didn’t investigate the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties?

[Blake]

Is Cuck Ross Derp? I can’t tell.

Lol

[Blake]

I mean, I'm just doing a quick scroll and I'm guessing there is a bunch of tsa goal post moving followed by him claiming sunshine else is moving the goal post.

[Cuck Ross]

I mean, I'm just doing a quick scroll and I'm guessing there is a bunch of tsa goal post moving followed by him claiming sunshine else is moving the goal post.
Your guess would be wrong. Just like your guess that your dick was the only dick your wife was sucking was wrong.

[koriwhat]

Your guess would be wrong. Just like your guess that your dick was the only dick your wife was sucking was wrong.

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! His dick is too small to satisfy any woman. Tiny dick having beta BlaKKKe.

[Blake]

Your guess would be wrong.

Doubtful.

[Blake]

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! His dick is too small to satisfy any woman. Tiny dick having beta BlaKKKe.

Lol literally five minutes ago:


You're obsessed with Trump's dick bro... I have read about 4 or 5 replies from you in the past month where you continue to bring this same shit up. How odd.

Just another day for angry tats.

[Cuck Ross]

Doubtful.
Not doubtful at all. It was as wrong as your guess that your dick was the only duck your wife was sucking.

[Blake]

Not doubtful at all.

Neh, you already got people thinking you're derp. I bet I'm spot on.

[spurraider21]

Are you really this dense or is this a deliberate attempt by you to play dumb and eventually get me so bored I just give up the conversation?

I never said Mueller should have known about Danchenko’s lies. I said the FBI knew about his lies. The FBI interview was before Mueller was appointed.

Now that we have cleared that up let’s move on to Mueller.

None of what Durham is now exposing was in the Mueller report, it should have been given the scope memo, but it wasn’t. Do you think Mueller and team investigated the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties and purposely left them out of the Mueller report or were they incompetent or negligent and didn’t investigate the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties?
sounds like this stuff, rather, should have been in horowitz' report which actually looked into the crossfire hurricane investigation

[pgardn]

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! His dick is too small to satisfy any woman. Tiny dick having beta BlaKKKe.

Its not the size of the sword, its the skill of the swordsman. you should know this.

[boutons_deux]

Everything Durham is presenting would have arose from #2, which Mueller and his team were tasked to do.


In spite of being DENIED access to Trump's financials,

Mueller presented 9 or 10 impeachable instance's of Trash's obstruction.

You should be thrilled that Pelosi and Dems are such wimps to let that slide, let Trash escape, encourage Trash and future Repugs to do the same and worse.

[koriwhat]

Its not the size of the sword, its the skill of the swordsman. you should know this.

:lmao Good one PG

[koriwhat]

In spite of being DENIED access to Trump's financials,

Mueller presented 9 or 10 impeachable instance's of Trash's obstruction.

You should be thrilled that Pelosi and Dems are such wimps to let that slide, let Trash escape, encourage Trash and future Repugs to do the same and worse.

:lmao Yeah they let it slide as they pressed on with 2 impeachments and vitriol every min he was in and out of office. Fuck you and all of them too you fucking loser!

[boutons_deux]

As Tensions Rose, U.S. Intelligence Spotted Election Meddling by China, Russia, Iran

the Department of Homeland Security (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/department-of-homeland-security) (DHS) was reporting over 1,000 fake China-connected Twitter (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/twitter) accounts agitating around the election.

There was evidence as well, the intelligence agencies said in classified reports, of Iranian agitation influencing domestic politics.

In March, Acting Homeland Secretary Chad Wolf had decried rumors spreading of a "national shutdown,"

saying the reports were part of a disinformation campaign, stemming possibly from Russia or other malicious cyber actors.

"New reports indicate that China has shifted to use 'Russian-Style' disinformation tactics amid the COVID-19 outbreak," a March 31 report said.

In April, a homeland security classified report said that Russian intelligence services were using COVID to probe the United States.

"Russia's examination of the American public's reaction to disinformation could help improve future campaigns unleashed during a crisis or degraded relations, shaking public confidence in the US government," the report said.

"In preparation for a wartime attack," the report continued,

Russia's Strategic Operation for the Destruction of Critically Important Targets (SODCIT)

"seeks to sap the will to fight from its adversary by, among other things, putting pressure on the population ..."

In April as well, DHS reported that Russia was conducting "malign influence operations" against the 2020 Census.

https://www.newsweek.com/tensions-rose-us-intelligence-spotted-election-meddling-china-russia-iran-1646722?utm_source=PushnamiMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1636420196745&subscriberId=603a87ede94838e5a12cf43f

USA's foreign adversaries hilariously enjoying themselves as they poison Trash's 74M gullible voters, USA as a huge sitting cyber duck to fuck

[Cuck Ross]

sounds like this stuff, rather, should have been in horowitz' report which actually looked into the crossfire hurricane investigation

Do you think Mueller and team investigated the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties and purposely left them out of the Mueller report or were they incompetent or negligent and didn’t investigate the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties?

[Blake]

Do you think Mueller and team investigated the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties and purposely left them out of the Mueller report or were they incompetent or negligent and didn’t investigate the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties?

Lol false dilemma

[Cuck Ross]

Lol false dilemma

IMO it’s either/or.

Explain why you disagree and provide an alternate theory.

[Cuck Ross]

sounds like this stuff, rather, should have been in horowitz' report which actually looked into the crossfire hurricane investigation
Horowitz was predication and FISA warrants.

Mueller had Steele dossier.

[Blake]

IMO it’s either/or.

Explain why you disagree and provide an alternate theory.

No thanks. I have a feeling someone else will do it and then you'll claim "nuh uh, it's either/or" and go round and round.

[Cuck Ross]

No thanks. I have a feeling someone else will do it and then you'll claim "nuh uh, it's either/or" and go round and round.
lol fold

[Winehole23]

pining for a legal home run at this point is more or less pathetic, either side.

the forces currently wishing to jail HRC for her 2016 shenanigans during her historic loss to DJT, might be in the lead right now.

[Blake]

lol fold

Lol "tHeY weRe eiThEr sTuPiD oR cORruPt piCk oNe"

Gtfo lol

[Cuck Ross]

Lol "tHeY weRe eiThEr sTuPiD oR cORruPt piCk oNe"

Gtfo lol
In my opinion yes Mueller team was either incompetent or covered up by omission in the final report.
I asked for you to share your opinion and you immediately shit your pants and folded. You bring nothing day in day out.

[Cuck Ross]

pining for a legal home run at this point is more or less pathetic, either side.

the forces currently wishing to jail HRC for her 2016 shenanigans during her historic loss to DJT, might be in the lead right now.

federal crimes just shenanigans now nothing to see here move along

[Blake]

In my opinion yes Mueller team was either incompetent or covered up by omission in the final report.
I asked for you to share your opinion and you immediately shit your pants and folded. You bring nothing day in day out.

Better than bringing shit opinions that are laughably stupid

[ElNono]

I'm not talking about the charges Durham is bringing. I'm talking about all of the evidence he is presenting. Mueller and his team had the same access yet none of this was disclosed in his report. Incompetence or cover up?

Why not? What you claim is that Durham had this evidence with him all the way back to October 2020, and did nothing about it until now. Incompetence or cover up??

See how retarded that is?

[Winehole23]

federal crimes just shenanigans now nothing to see here move alongthanks for underscoring your interest!

#StillStuckOnHer

[ElNono]

Do you think Mueller and team investigated the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties and purposely left them out of the Mueller report or were they incompetent or negligent and didn’t investigate the Clinton/Steele/Russia ties?

Don't recall Clinton/Steele being the targets of any investigation? Which makes sense since the claim was that of Trump's campaign colluding with Russia.

As I mentioned earlier, and as you already know, the Steele report was indeed disclosed as a oppo research even while filing FISA applications.

Flynn lied about talking to Russia as well, something Mueller knew too, and yet he still found that there was no collusion. Were they incompetent or negligent? Neither. There was simply no evidence (or not enough) that such an act proved actual collusion.

[spurraider21]

Don't recall Clinton/Steele being the targets of any investigation? Which makes sense since the claim was that of Trump's campaign colluding with Russia.

As I mentioned earlier, and as you already know, the Steele report was indeed disclosed as a oppo research even while filing FISA applications.

Flynn lied about talking to Russia as well, something Mueller knew too, and yet he still found that there was no collusion. Were they incompetent or negligent? Neither. There was simply no evidence (or not enough) that such an act proved actual collusion.
to be fair Mueller was working with Trump/Flynn to weed out the deep state and clinton loyalists

[ElNono]

to be fair Mueller was working with Trump/Flynn to weed out the deep state and clinton loyalists

https://pics.me.me/thumb_5d-chess-eurokeks-meme-stock-exchange-51350836.png

[Cuck Ross]

Why not? What you claim is that Durham had this evidence with him all the way back to October 2020, and did nothing about it until now. Incompetence or cover up??

See how retarded that is?

It's a terrible comparison, yes it's retarded.

[Cuck Ross]

Don't recall Clinton/Steele being the targets of any investigation? Which makes sense since the claim was that of Trump's campaign colluding with Russia.

As I mentioned earlier, and as you already know, the Steele report was indeed disclosed as a oppo research even while filing FISA applications.

Flynn lied about talking to Russia as well, something Mueller knew too, and yet he still found that there was no collusion. Were they incompetent or negligent? Neither. There was simply no evidence (or not enough) that such an act proved actual collusion.
Mueller scope memo---"(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."


We know Mueller investigated the dossier because in his report he debunked Steele and gave all the dossier fans blue balls. If Mueller and his team were competent and followed the scope memo and investigated any matter that arose from investigating the dossier Mueller and team would have investigated the sources behind the dossier and revealed the entire hoax came from Clinton's campaign. Again, it was either incompetence or cover up.

"bUt ThE RePOrT wAs DIscLOseD aS opPO rEsEArcH" :rollin

As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
the first application contained the following seven
significant inaccuracies and omissions:
1. Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
another U.S. government agency detailing its
prior relationship with Page, including that Page
had been approved as an "operational contact"
for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
that Page had provided information to the other
agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
Russian intelligence officers, one of which
overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
application;
2. Included a source characterization statement
asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
"corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
reporting and was not approved by Steele's
handling agent, as required by the Woods
Procedures;
3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
attributed with providing the information in
Report 95 and some of the information in
Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
" may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
FISA application was filed;
4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
did not directly provide to the press information
in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
he only shared his election-related research with
the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
was incorrect and contradicted by documentation
in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
he also gave his information to the State
Department;
5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
emails;
6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
7. Included Page's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
was an agent of Russia but omitted other
statements Page made that were inconsistent
with its theory, includ ing denying having met
with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
Divyekin was; if true, those statements
co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Page had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
future cooperation with Russia and shared
derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
Further, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
significant errors in the renewal applications.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

[Blake]

No thanks. I have a feeling someone else will do it and then you'll claim "nuh uh, it's either/or" and go round and round.

:lol was there an easier prediction?

[Cuck Ross]

:lol was there an easier prediction?

You sat in the corner and watched someone else do the work. Seems to be a habit with you :lol

[DMC]

thanks for underscoring your interest!

#StillStuckOnHer

:lol 80% of the forum talks about Trump daily and you're crying about "her"?

[ElNono]

It's a terrible comparison, yes it's retarded.

That is indeed your own argument to claim Mueller's investigation is bunk. Under your own theory so it Durham. Why the double standard, tbh?

[Cuck Ross]

That is indeed your own argument to claim Mueller's investigation is bunk. Under your own theory so it Durham. Why the double standard, tbh?

You went straight off retard cliff.

[Blake]

You sat in the corner and watched someone else do the work. Seems to be a habit with you :lol

I'm sitting here watching you get clowned. It's cheap entertainment.

[Cuck Ross]

you havent demonstrated when anyone first knew he was lying

It was obvious they knew he was lying in the January interview since the FBI brought up Dolan first, but here is first confirmed documentation I can find of them knowing he lied.

2/9/17

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F ed0b546d-bfed-44af-90bd-96b60ba79dee_940x496.png

[Cuck Ross]

I'm sitting here watching you get clowned. It's cheap entertainment.

There are so many cuck jokes to go with here I don't know where to start :lol

[spurraider21]

It was obvious they knew he was lying in the January interview since the FBI brought up Dolan first, but here is first confirmed documentation I can find of them knowing he lied.

2/9/17

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F ed0b546d-bfed-44af-90bd-96b60ba79dee_940x496.png
nice, but the contradictions noted here are relating to russian intelligence/security services, not Dolan aka PR Executive-1

either way, if Mueller didnt rely on the Dossier for his report, why would he have done a deep dive into the background of the dossier?

[ElNono]

You went straight off retard cliff.

I'm pointing out the contradiction of your own claim. You built that giant straw, but you can't defend it.

The fact that you were quick to move into personal attacks just simply underscores the point.

[Cuck Ross]

nice, but the contradictions noted here are relating to russian intelligence/security services, not Dolan aka PR Executive-1You just asked when they knew he was lying. You were just shown they knew at least by February 2017. Now you move the goalpost and try and make it a lie about a specific person? :lol


either way, if Mueller didnt rely on the Dossier for his report, why would he have done a deep dive into the background of the dossier?

2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."

[Winehole23]

nice, but the contradictions noted here are relating to russian intelligence/security services, not Dolan aka PR Executive-1

either way, if Mueller didnt rely on the Dossier for his report, why would he have done a deep dive into the background of the dossier?perhaps his painstakingly acquired familiarity with the Steele dossier and his meticulous command of the minutiae of pleading in this case, will be vindicated by a legal outcome at some point. I wouldn't rule out HRC being thrown in prison after the GOP unifies government in 2024.

[Cuck Ross]

I'm pointing out the contradiction of your own claim. You built that giant straw, but you can't defend it.

The fact that you were quick to move into personal attacks just simply underscores the point.

That was never my claim, there is nothing to defend.

[ElNono]

Mueller scope memo---"(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. "2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."


We know Mueller investigated the dossier because in his report he debunked Steele and gave all the dossier fans blue balls. If Mueller and his team were competent and followed the scope memo and investigated any matter that arose from investigating the dossier Mueller and team would have investigated the sources behind the dossier and revealed the entire hoax came from Clinton's campaign. Again, it was either incompetence or cover up.

"bUt ThE RePOrT wAs DIscLOseD aS opPO rEsEArcH" :rollin

As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
the first application contained the following seven
significant inaccuracies and omissions:
1. Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
another U.S. government agency detailing its
prior relationship with Page, including that Page
had been approved as an "operational contact"
for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
that Page had provided information to the other
agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
Russian intelligence officers, one of which
overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
application;
2. Included a source characterization statement
asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
"corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
reporting and was not approved by Steele's
handling agent, as required by the Woods
Procedures;
3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
attributed with providing the information in
Report 95 and some of the information in
Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
" may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
FISA application was filed;
4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
did not directly provide to the press information
in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
he only shared his election-related research with
the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
was incorrect and contradicted by documentation
in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
he also gave his information to the State
Department;
5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
emails;
6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
7. Included Page's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
was an agent of Russia but omitted other
statements Page made that were inconsistent
with its theory, includ ing denying having met
with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
Divyekin was; if true, those statements
co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Page had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
future cooperation with Russia and shared
derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
Further, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
significant errors in the renewal applications.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf


That's not the Mueller report, that was the OIG report (which basically means you agree with SR21 that was his realm).

And everybody knew about it being oppo research back in 2017, including you... both Mueller and the OIG reports came out roughly two years after this post:


Oppo research was never not good to begin with.

Was the Steele dossier funded by Republicans yes or no?

So what makes you think they were hiding that? :lol

[ElNono]

That was never my claim, there is nothing to defend.

You know people can see earlier posts, right? Like:


so again, where does any of this say that when he lied in 2017 that they knew at the time he was lying?


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21098453-govuscourtsvaed51569210

Page 17 and on in subsequent interviews.


can you identify where it says they knew he was lying at the time?


In your opinion was Mueller's team incompetent and just didn't find everything Durham found on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko or were they competent and they found the same information but covered it up by leaving it out of the final Mueller report?

(1) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
(2) any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation" (the Investigation).

^^^ Here you are defending a claim that was never your claim? rofl

[Cuck Ross]

That's not the Mueller report, that was the OIG report (which basically means you agree with SR21 that was his realm).

And everybody knew about it being oppo research back in 2017, including you... both Mueller and the OIG reports came out roughly two years after this post:



So what makes you think they were hiding that? :lol

No shit that's the OIG report I put the link there. I included that to show how silly your reference was to it being disclosed as oppo research.

[Blake]

There are so many cuck jokes to go with here I don't know where to start :lol



The fact that you were quick to move into personal attacks just simply underscores the point.

:lol

[Cuck Ross]

You know people can see earlier posts, right? Like:







^^^ Here you are defending a claim that was never your claim? rofl

Here you are arguing against a claim I never made.

You made the same mistake sr21 did and confused the FBI and Mueller.

I explained that to sr21 already in the thread.


The FBI ran the questioning of Danchenko, not Mueller. I said the FBI knew Danchenko was lying. Questioning happened before Mueller was even appointed.

[Blake]

You know people can see earlier posts, right? Like:









^^^ Here you are defending a claim that was never your claim? rofl

:lmao

[spurraider21]

You just asked when they knew he was lying. You were just shown they knew at least by February 2017. Now you move the goalpost and try and make it a lie about a specific person? :lol



2)any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation"(the Investigation)."
dont know about it being a goalpost move considering all your posts about the lies related to dolan dolan dolan. its you that moved the goalpost off dolan :lol

did a deep dive into the background of the dossier necessarily arise from the investigation if he didnt think the dossier was material too the interference/collusion aspect of his investigation?

your inference that it SHOULD have been part of mueller's report relies on a few separate assumptions being true. thats not moving goalposts to ensure those assumptions were satisfied

[Cuck Ross]

dont know about it being a goalpost move considering all your posts about the lies related to dolan dolan dolan. its you that moved the goalpost off dolan :lol

did a deep dive into the background of the dossier necessarily arise from the investigation if he didnt think the dossier was material too the interference/collusion aspect of his investigation?

your inference that it SHOULD have been part of mueller's report relies on a few separate assumptions being true. thats not moving goalposts to ensure those assumptions were satisfiedOf course the dossier was material to the Mueller investigation, Mueller basically debunked it point by point. Had Mueller's team been competent they would have gone further as instructed by Rosenstein and investigated any matters that arose (Steele's sources) directly from that investigation.

[Winehole23]

So Mueller didn't rely on the dossier.

Many posters seem to think otherwise, for some reason.

[Spurs Homer]

So Mueller didn't rely on the dossier.

Many posters seem to think otherwise, for some reason.


nor did the fbi rely on the dossier

it was 1 of hundreds of pieces of evidence - ALL of which they considered and weighed and then opened the investigation that the IG concluded was properly predicated

[Cuck Ross]

1456367032786722826

Brookings fellow, Comey BFF, and hoax dossier pusher Benjamin Wittes interviewing disgraced and terminated ex-FBI Peter Strzok about former Brookings fellow hoax pusher Igor Dashenko :lol

This is almost as bad as Clinton operative George Stephanapolous giving disgraced hoax dossier pusher Christopher Steele a prime time interview to try and clear his name :lol

Not sure how I missed disgraced and terminated ex-FBI Peter Strzok going on the biggest hoax dossier pusher of all's show :lol

i-2AcwgRzIY
hater

[Cuck Ross]

https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1458113615739998217


https://twitter.com/JerylBier/status/1458140353576333317

Where did all the Schiff stans go :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1458113615739998217


https://twitter.com/JerylBier/status/1458140353576333317

Where did all the Schiff stans go :rollinWe're just chillin' outside Air Force One with Q composing some tippy top tweets.

[Blake]

1456367032786722826



:lmao the black background with the serious floating head

[Cuck Ross]

1458148063806214150

[ElNono]

No shit that's the OIG report I put the link there. I included that to show how silly your reference was to it being disclosed as oppo research.

That report is two yours older than your own and everybody else's knowledge it was oppo research. Why are you arguing this point again?

[Adam Lambert]

TDSA still working overtime on this

[Spurs Homer]

Comrade TSA never gives up the fight for mother russia!



:lol:lol

[Cuck Ross]

That report is two yours older than your own and everybody else's knowledge it was oppo research. Why are you arguing this point again?

Seemed like you brought up the fact it was disclosed as oppo research to FISC was something honorable or something. I really have no clue why you brought it up I just found it funny you brought up it was disclosed to the FISC without bringing up everything that wasn't disclosed to the FISC about it.

[ElNono]

Here you are arguing against a claim I never made.

You made the same mistake sr21 did and confused the FBI and Mueller.

I explained that to sr21 already in the thread.

Goalpost change noted, but both Mueller and Durham work with the FBI and for all we know had access to the same info.

You simply cannot claim incompetence, negligence or conspiracies on any one part because charges were filed now instead of a year, two, three or four ago. If you do, then logically the contention clearly applies just as equally to Mueller as it does to Durham who's been on the case for over a year now.

You're also taking a leap of faith that this particular person lying automatically means collusion or conspiracy, despite that a lot of people lied to the FBI (and were caught and tried thanks to Mueller) and yet Mueller conclusion was that there was no evidence of collusion.

So maybe it's time to take a step back, stop falling for every twitterazi out there and let the pros do their job.

[ElNono]

Seemed like you brought up the fact it was disclosed as oppo research to FISC was something honorable or something. I really have no clue why you brought it up I just found it funny you brought up it was disclosed to the FISC without bringing up everything that wasn't disclosed to the FISC about it.

Of course it was at the very least the right thing to do. There was never anything hidden to the FISC judge about what the purpose of the report was. That clearly put the FBI in much more legal solid ground as far as their request for a FISA warrant.

I brought it up because this case actually centers on the Steele report, doesn't it? Isn't your fake outrage all about Mueller allegedly not looking into the sourcing of the report?

[Cuck Ross]

Goalpost change noted, but both Mueller and Durham work with the FBI and for all we know had access to the same info.There was no goal post move by me. You were confused by sr21's mistake and ran with it, I'll forgive you.


You simply cannot claim incompetence, negligence or conspiracies on any one part because charges were filed now instead of a year, two, three or four ago. If you do, then logically the contention clearly applies just as equally to Mueller as it does to Durham who's been on the case for over a year now.Again, it's not about the charges for me that make me claim incompetence or negligence. And I didn't call it on any one part I called it on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. Mueller and Durham had access to the same info, and I'm totally confident claiming incompetence or negligence on the part of Mueller's team for either not investigating or investigating and leaving out of report.


You're also taking a leap of faith that this particular person lying automatically means collusion or conspiracy, despite that a lot of people lied to the FBI (and were caught and tried thanks to Mueller) and yet Mueller conclusion was that there was no evidence of collusion.Clinton campaign definitely cooked up a conspiracy, and it's laughable to deny that. It's also looking like Clinton campaign were the one's colluding with Russians lol.


So maybe it's time to take a step back, stop falling for every twitterazi out there and let the pros do their job.The pros are doing their job now. Senile Mueller and his hyper partisan team are thankfully are no longer on the case.

[Cuck Ross]

Of course it was at the very least the right thing to do. There was never anything hidden to the FISC judge about what the purpose of the report was. That clearly put the FBI in much more legal solid ground as far as their request for a FISA warrant.

I brought it up because this case actually centers on the Steele report, doesn't it? Isn't your fake outrage all about Mueller allegedly not looking into the sourcing of the report?

The purpose of the report was to fuck Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.

[Blake]

There was no goal post move by me.


I mean, I'm just doing a quick scroll and I'm guessing there is a bunch of tsa goal post moving

Lol

[Cuck Ross]

Lol

You bring less than Derp. That is tough to do.

[ElNono]

There was no goal post move by me. You were confused by sr21's mistake and ran with it, I'll forgive you.

This is silly, let me remind you once again people can read your previous posts in this thread.


Again, it's not about the charges for me that make me claim incompetence or negligence. And I didn't call it on any one part I called it on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. Mueller and Durham had access to the same info, and I'm totally confident claiming incompetence or negligence on the part of Mueller's team for either not investigating or investigating and leaving out of report.

It doesn't matter what you are confident about, this isn't about your hunches. And you sure did frame it directly as such:


Yes they knew he was lying in 2017.

In your opinion was Mueller's team incompetent and just didn't find everything Durham found on Steele/Sussman/Danchenko or were they competent and they found the same information but covered it up by leaving it out of the final Mueller report?

According to you, Durham also knew about this lying since last year, but he's only pressing charges now (on the Steele/Sussman/Danchenko matter). Is his investigation also incompetent or negligent? Why the double standard?

And pressing charges is entirely material to the discussion since it's how we find out about these things, seeing that Durham released no reports so far.


Clinton campaign definitely cooked up a conspiracy, and it's laughable to deny that. It's also looking like Clinton campaign were the one's colluding with Russians lol.

The pros are doing their job now. Senile Mueller and his hyper partisan team are thankfully are no longer on the case.

It's laughable because Technofag says so? Or is it Q chilling next to Airforce One? lmao

What's sort of weird is that you called into question Durham's own credibility...

[ElNono]

The purpose of the report was to fuck Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.

It was oppo research. It implies that it was created to indeed fuck Trump chances to become President. That's what oppo research is.

The only reason it was elevated to a formal investigation is that there were alleged national security implications if some of it was true. That's why we have secret courts to explore natsec issues.

[Cuck Ross]

This is silly, let me remind you once again people can read your previous posts in this thread.



It doesn't matter what you are confident about, this isn't about your hunches. And you sure did frame it directly as such:




According to you, Durham also knew about this lying since last year, but he's only pressing charges now (on the Steele/Sussman/Danchenko matter). Is his investigation also incompetent or negligent? Why the double standard?

And pressing charges is entirely material to the discussion since it's how we find out about these things, seeing that Durham released no reports so far.



It's laughable because Technofag says so? Or is it Q chilling next to Airforce One? lmao

What's sort of weird is that you called into question Durham's own credibility...

"They" was in reference to the FBI, before Mueller was appointed. People can clearly read that, well, except for you and sr21. You are again wrongly conflating the two, just like sr21 did. Your conflation leads you to ask dumb questions like what about muh double standard.

Mueller did release a report, there was nothing in it about Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. If Mueller's team was competent they would have investigated that aspect as they were tasked to investigate collusion with Russians. Danchenko was already investigated by the FBI in 2009, while Mueller was the FBI director :lol His name should have been an immediate red flag. Yet Mueller and team did nothing....or they did and we just never heard about it.

[spurraider21]

The purpose of the report was to fuck Trump. There was nothing honorable about what the FBI did in seeking out the warrant against Page. They hid and omitted plenty from the FISC and lied to the court on all four applications.
can you remind me what was lied about on all 4? from what i recall know clinesmith's email thingy only made it into the 4th application

[Cuck Ross]

It was oppo research. It implies that it was created to indeed fuck Trump chances to become President. That's what oppo research is.

The only reason it was elevated to a formal investigation is that there were alleged national security implications if some of it was true. That's why we have secret courts to explore natsec issues.

Long time Clinton advisor feeds allegations to Danchenko. Danchenko feeds allegations to Steele. Steele feeds allegations to Fusion and FBI. Fusion feeds allegations to media. FBI uses allegations from Steele and media stories to apply for FISA warrants all the while having so many misstatements and omissions in the applications that the FISC would later say there was no probable cause to issue the warrants on Page.

[Cuck Ross]

can you remind me what was lied about on all 4? from what i recall know clinesmith's email thingy only made it into the 4th applicationPardon the formatting :lol edit here this is easier just go to the link

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
the first application contained the following seven
significant inaccuracies and omissions:
1.Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
another U.S. government agency detailing its
prior relationship with Page, including that Page
had been approved as an "operational contact"
for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
that Page had provided information to the other
agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
Russian intelligence officers, one of which
overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
application;
2.Included a source characterization statement
asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
"corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
reporting and was not approved by Steele's
handling agent, as required by the Woods
Procedures;
3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
attributed with providing the information in
Report 95 and some of the information in
Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
" may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
FISA application was filed;
4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
did not directly provide to the press information
in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
he only shared his election-related research with
the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
was incorrect and contradicted by documentation
in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
he also gave his information to the State
Department;
5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
emails;
6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
7. Included Page's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
was an agent of Russia but omitted other
statements Page made that were inconsistent
with its theory, includ ing denying having met
with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
Divyekin was; if true, those statements
co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Pa ge had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
future cooperation with Russia and shared
derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
Fu rther, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
significant errors in the renewa l applications.

========


The Three Renewal Ap plicat ion s f or
Continued FI SA Authority o n Ca rte r Page
As noted above, t he FBI filed three renewal
applications wit h t he FISC, on January 12, April 7, and
June 29, 2017. In addition to repeat ing the seven
significant errors contained in the first FISA application
and outlined above, we identified 10 additional significant errors in t he three renewal applications,
based upon information known to t he FBI after the first
applica tion and before one or more of the renewals. We
describe the circumstances surrou nding these 10 errors
in Chapter Eight, and provide a chart list ing additional
errors in Appendix One. As more fully described in
Chapter Eight, the renewal applications:
8. Om itted the fact that Steele's Primary Sub-
source, who the FBI fou nd credible, had made
statements in January 2017 raisi ng significant
questions about the re li ability of allegations
included in the FISA applications, in cluding, for
example, that he/she d id not reca ll any
discussion wit h Person 1 concerning Wikileaks
and there was "nothing bad " about t he
communications between the Kremlin and t he
Trump team, and that he/she did not report to
Steele in July 2016 that Page had met with
Sechin;
9. Omitted Page's prior relationship with another
U.S. government agency, despite being
reminded by the other agency in June 2017,
prior to the fil ing of the fi nal renewal
appl ication, about Page's past st atus with t hat
other agency; instead of including this
information in the f inal renewal application, the
OGC Attorney altered an email from the other
agency so t hat the email stated t hat Page was
" not a sou rce" for the other agency, which the
FBI affiant relied upon in signing t he final
renewal application;
10. Omitted information from persons who
previously had professional contacts w it h Steele
or had direct knowledge of his work-related
performance, i ncludi ng statements that Steele
had no history of reporting in bad faith but
"[d]emonstrates lack of self-awareness, poor
judgment," "pursued people with polit ical risk
but no intelligence value," "didn't a lways
exercise g reat judgment," and it was " not clear
what he would have done to va lidate" his
reporting;
11. Omitted information obtained from Ohr about
Steele and his election reporting, including that
( 1) Steele's reporting was going to Clinton's
presidential campaign and others, (2) Simpson
was paying Steele to discuss his reporting with
t he media, and (3) Steele was " desperate t hat
Donald Trump not get elected and was
passio nate about him not being the U.S.
President";


12. Failed to update the description of Steele after
information became known to the Crossfire
Hurricane t eam, from Ohr and others, that
provided greater clarity on t he political origins
and connections of Steele's reporting, including
t hat Simpson was hired by someone associated
with the Democratic Party and/or the DNC;
13. Failed to correct the assertion in the first FISA
application that the FBI did not believe that
Steele directly provided info rmation to the
reporter who wrote the September 23 Yahoo
News article, even though there was no
information in the Woods File to support this
claim and even after certain Crossfire Hurricane
officials learned in 2017, before t he third
renewal applicatio n, of an admission that Steele
made in a court filing about his interactions with
the news media in the late summer and ea rly
fall of 2016;
14. Omitted the finding from a FBI source validation
report that Steele was suitable for continued
operation but that his past contribu tions to the
FBI's criminal program had been " minimally
corroborated," and instead continued to assert
in the source characterization statement that
Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated
and used in cr iminal proceedings";
15. Omitted Papadopoulos's statements to an FBI
CHS in late October 2016 denying that the
Trump ca mpaign was involved in t he
circumstances of the DNC email hack;
16. Omitted Joseph Mifsud's denials to the FBI that
he suppli ed Papadopoulos with the information
Papadopoulos sha red with the FFG (suggesting
that the campaign received an offer or
suggestion of assistance from Russia); and
17. Omitted info rmation indicating that Page played
no role in the Republican platform change on
Russia's annexation of Ukraine as alleged in the
Report 95, which was inconsistent w ith a factual
assertion relied upon to support probable cause
in all four FISA applications.
Among the most serio us of the 10 additional
errors we found in the renewal applications was the
FBI's fai lure to advise OJ or the court of the
inconsistences, described in detail in Chapter Six,
between Steele and his Primary Sub- source on t he
reporting relied upon in the FISA applications. Although
the Primary Sub-source's account of these
communications, if t rue, was not consistent with and, in
fact, contradicted the allegations of a "well- developed conspiracy" in Reports 95 and 102 attributed to Person
1 the FBI did not share this information with 01. The
FBI also fa il ed to share other inconsistencies with OJ,
including the Primary Sub-source's account of the
alleged meeting between Page and Sechin in Steele's
Report 94 and his/her descriptions of the source
network. The fact that the Primary Sub- sou rce's
account contradicted key assertions attri buted to
his/her own sub-sources in Steele's Reports 94, 95, and
102 shou ld have generated significant discussions
between t he Crossfire Hurricane team and OJ prior to
submitting the next FISA renewal application.
Accord ing to Evans, had OJ been made aware of the
information, such discussions might have included the
possibility of foregoi ng the renewal request altogether,
at least unt il the FBI reconciled the differences between
Steele's accou nt and the Primary Sub-source's account
to the satisfaction of 01. However, we found no
evidence that the Crossfire Hurricane team ever
considered whether any of the inconsistencies
warrant ed reconsideration of the FBI's assessment of
the re liability of the Steele reports or notice to OJ
before the subseque nt renewal applications were filed.


Instead, the second and third renewal
applications provid ed no substantive information
concerning the Primary Sub- source's interview, and
offered only a brief conclusory statement that the FBI
met with the Primary Su b-sour ce "[i]n an effort to
fu rther corroborate Steele's reporting " and found the
Primary Sub-source to be "truthful and cooperat ive."
We believe that including this st atement, w it hout also
informing OJ and the court that the Primary Sub-
source's account of events contradicted key assertions
in Steele's reporting, left a misimpression that the
Primary Sub- source had corroborated the Steele
reporting. I ndeed, in a letter to the FISC in July 2018,
before learn ing of t hese inconsistencies from us during
this review, t he Department defended the reliability of
Steele's reporting and the FISA applications by citing, in
part, to the Primary Sub-source's interview as
"additional information co r roborating [Steele's]
reporting" and noting the FBI's determinat ion that
he/she was "truthful and cooperative."

=================

Danchenko told the FBI in 2017 that Steele and his dossier were full of shit and they ignored that, hid it from the FISC, and pressed on.

[spurraider21]

i didnt need a copypasta, you could have just written somethin out :lol. i was legitimately asking. i dont have a pepe silvia board on my wall, so my memory of this isnt perfect. i know there were problems on all the warrants, i only specifically said that i recalled the clinesmith fuckery was limited to just one of the apps

[Cuck Ross]

i didnt need a copypasta, you could have just written somethin out :lol. i was legitimately asking. i dont have a pepe silvia board on my wall, so my memory of this isnt perfect. i know there were problems on all the warrants, i only specifically said that i recalled the clinesmith fuckery was limited to just one of the apps

There were 10 more instances on top of the 7 from the first app. Was much easier to just copy paste in a shitty format.

[Blake]

You bring less than Derp. That is tough to do.

You got confused for derp. Bravo.

[Blake]

Pardon the formatting :lol edit here this is easier just go to the link

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

As more fully described in Chapter Five, based
upon the information known to the FBI in October 2016,
the first application contained the following seven
significant inaccuracies and omissions:
1.Omitted information the FBI had obtained from
another U.S. government agency detailing its
prior relationship with Page, including that Page
had been approved as an "operational contact"
for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and
that Page had provided information to the other
agency concerning his prior contacts with certain
Russian intelligence officers, one of which
overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA
application;
2.Included a source characterization statement
asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been
"corroborated and used in criminal proceedings,"which overstated the significance of Steele's past
reporting and was not approved by Steele's
handling agent, as required by the Woods
Procedures;
3. Omitted information relevant to the reliability of
Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was
attributed with providing the information in
Report 95 and some of the information in
Reports 80 and 102 relied upon in the
application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told
members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that
Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and
" may engage in some embellishment" and (2)
the FBI had opened a counterintelligence
investigation on Person 1 a few days before the
FISA application was filed;
4. Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele
did not directly provide to the press information
in the September 23 Yahoo News article based
on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that
he only shared his election-related research with
the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; t his premise
was incorrect and contradicted by documentation
in the Woods File-Steele had told the FBI that
he also gave his information to the State
Department;
5. Omitted Papadopou los's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
denying that anyone associated wit h the Trum p
campaign was collaborating with Russia or with
outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of
emails;
6. Omitted Page 's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
Page had " literally never met" or "said one word
to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in t ension with cla ims in Report
95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
7. Included Page's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that
the FBI believed supported its theory that Page
was an agent of Russia but omitted other
statements Page made that were inconsistent
with its theory, includ ing denying having met
with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who
Divyekin was; if true, those statements
co ntradicted the claims in Report 94 that Pa ge had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
future cooperation with Russia and shared
derogatory information about ca ndidate Clinton.
None of these inaccuracies and omissions were
brought to the attention of OI before the last FISA
application was filed in June 2017. Consequently, these
failures were repeated in all three r enewal applications.
Fu rther, as we discuss lat er, we identified 10 additional
significant errors in the renewa l applications.

========


The Three Renewal Ap plicat ion s f or
Continued FI SA Authority o n Ca rte r Page
As noted above, t he FBI filed three renewal
applications wit h t he FISC, on January 12, April 7, and
June 29, 2017. In addition to repeat ing the seven
significant errors contained in the first FISA application
and outlined above, we identified 10 additional significant errors in t he three renewal applications,
based upon information known to t he FBI after the first
applica tion and before one or more of the renewals. We
describe the circumstances surrou nding these 10 errors
in Chapter Eight, and provide a chart list ing additional
errors in Appendix One. As more fully described in
Chapter Eight, the renewal applications:
8. Om itted the fact that Steele's Primary Sub-
source, who the FBI fou nd credible, had made
statements in January 2017 raisi ng significant
questions about the re li ability of allegations
included in the FISA applications, in cluding, for
example, that he/she d id not reca ll any
discussion wit h Person 1 concerning Wikileaks
and there was "nothing bad " about t he
communications between the Kremlin and t he
Trump team, and that he/she did not report to
Steele in July 2016 that Page had met with
Sechin;
9. Omitted Page's prior relationship with another
U.S. government agency, despite being
reminded by the other agency in June 2017,
prior to the fil ing of the fi nal renewal
appl ication, about Page's past st atus with t hat
other agency; instead of including this
information in the f inal renewal application, the
OGC Attorney altered an email from the other
agency so t hat the email stated t hat Page was
" not a sou rce" for the other agency, which the
FBI affiant relied upon in signing t he final
renewal application;
10. Omitted information from persons who
previously had professional contacts w it h Steele
or had direct knowledge of his work-related
performance, i ncludi ng statements that Steele
had no history of reporting in bad faith but
"[d]emonstrates lack of self-awareness, poor
judgment," "pursued people with polit ical risk
but no intelligence value," "didn't a lways
exercise g reat judgment," and it was " not clear
what he would have done to va lidate" his
reporting;
11. Omitted information obtained from Ohr about
Steele and his election reporting, including that
( 1) Steele's reporting was going to Clinton's
presidential campaign and others, (2) Simpson
was paying Steele to discuss his reporting with
t he media, and (3) Steele was " desperate t hat
Donald Trump not get elected and was
passio nate about him not being the U.S.
President";


12. Failed to update the description of Steele after
information became known to the Crossfire
Hurricane t eam, from Ohr and others, that
provided greater clarity on t he political origins
and connections of Steele's reporting, including
t hat Simpson was hired by someone associated
with the Democratic Party and/or the DNC;
13. Failed to correct the assertion in the first FISA
application that the FBI did not believe that
Steele directly provided info rmation to the
reporter who wrote the September 23 Yahoo
News article, even though there was no
information in the Woods File to support this
claim and even after certain Crossfire Hurricane
officials learned in 2017, before t he third
renewal applicatio n, of an admission that Steele
made in a court filing about his interactions with
the news media in the late summer and ea rly
fall of 2016;
14. Omitted the finding from a FBI source validation
report that Steele was suitable for continued
operation but that his past contribu tions to the
FBI's criminal program had been " minimally
corroborated," and instead continued to assert
in the source characterization statement that
Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated
and used in cr iminal proceedings";
15. Omitted Papadopoulos's statements to an FBI
CHS in late October 2016 denying that the
Trump ca mpaign was involved in t he
circumstances of the DNC email hack;
16. Omitted Joseph Mifsud's denials to the FBI that
he suppli ed Papadopoulos with the information
Papadopoulos sha red with the FFG (suggesting
that the campaign received an offer or
suggestion of assistance from Russia); and
17. Omitted info rmation indicating that Page played
no role in the Republican platform change on
Russia's annexation of Ukraine as alleged in the
Report 95, which was inconsistent w ith a factual
assertion relied upon to support probable cause
in all four FISA applications.
Among the most serio us of the 10 additional
errors we found in the renewal applications was the
FBI's fai lure to advise OJ or the court of the
inconsistences, described in detail in Chapter Six,
between Steele and his Primary Sub- source on t he
reporting relied upon in the FISA applications. Although
the Primary Sub-source's account of these
communications, if t rue, was not consistent with and, in
fact, contradicted the allegations of a "well- developed conspiracy" in Reports 95 and 102 attributed to Person
1 the FBI did not share this information with 01. The
FBI also fa il ed to share other inconsistencies with OJ,
including the Primary Sub-source's account of the
alleged meeting between Page and Sechin in Steele's
Report 94 and his/her descriptions of the source
network. The fact that the Primary Sub- sou rce's
account contradicted key assertions attri buted to
his/her own sub-sources in Steele's Reports 94, 95, and
102 shou ld have generated significant discussions
between t he Crossfire Hurricane team and OJ prior to
submitting the next FISA renewal application.
Accord ing to Evans, had OJ been made aware of the
information, such discussions might have included the
possibility of foregoi ng the renewal request altogether,
at least unt il the FBI reconciled the differences between
Steele's accou nt and the Primary Sub-source's account
to the satisfaction of 01. However, we found no
evidence that the Crossfire Hurricane team ever
considered whether any of the inconsistencies
warrant ed reconsideration of the FBI's assessment of
the re liability of the Steele reports or notice to OJ
before the subseque nt renewal applications were filed.


Instead, the second and third renewal
applications provid ed no substantive information
concerning the Primary Sub- source's interview, and
offered only a brief conclusory statement that the FBI
met with the Primary Su b-sour ce "[i]n an effort to
fu rther corroborate Steele's reporting " and found the
Primary Sub-source to be "truthful and cooperat ive."
We believe that including this st atement, w it hout also
informing OJ and the court that the Primary Sub-
source's account of events contradicted key assertions
in Steele's reporting, left a misimpression that the
Primary Sub- source had corroborated the Steele
reporting. I ndeed, in a letter to the FISC in July 2018,
before learn ing of t hese inconsistencies from us during
this review, t he Department defended the reliability of
Steele's reporting and the FISA applications by citing, in
part, to the Primary Sub-source's interview as
"additional information co r roborating [Steele's]
reporting" and noting the FBI's determinat ion that
he/she was "truthful and cooperative."

=================

Danchenko told the FBI in 2017 that Steele and his dossier were full of shit and they ignored that, hid it from the FISC, and pressed on.

I'm sure everyone here can't wait to dive into this wall salad.

[Cuck Ross]

I can smell the cuck hurt from California.

[Blake]

I can smell the cuck hurt from California.

Whatever you say, Cuck.

[ElNono]

"They" was in reference to the FBI, before Mueller was appointed. People can clearly read that, well, except for you and sr21. You are again wrongly conflating the two, just like sr21 did. Your conflation leads you to ask dumb questions like what about muh double standard.

I don't think your conspiracy is very clear at all. So the FBI are the ones that lied and didn't tell Mueller, but once Brandon got the right people at the FBI, they did told Durham?

Or the FBI told both, and both of them sit on it for a long ass time? Which one is it?


Mueller did release a report, there was nothing in it about Steele/Sussman/Danchenko. If Mueller's team was competent they would have investigated that aspect as they were tasked to investigate collusion with Russians. Danchenko was already investigated by the FBI in 2009, while Mueller was the FBI director :lol His name should have been an immediate red flag. Yet Mueller and team did nothing....or they did and we just never heard about it.

We're going in circles. Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were not part of any investigation at the time. Again, the allegations at the time were that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, which was reinforced after it was known that Flynn lied to the VP about talking to the Russian ambassador.

Mueller and Durham are not investigating the same thing either. I have zero problem with Durham's investigation, and I'll read his conclusions whenever they come up or when he speaks (just like I did with Mueller).

The problem I see here are useful idiots that try to spread fake news to establish a narrative by consistently jumping to conclusions that end up making them look stupid. Happened with the Mueller report, happened with the OIG report, happened with GUCCIFER 2.0, happened with Pizzagate, etc, etc, etc

People with room temperate IQ and above generally realize they've been used as fools, take a step back and use some critical thinking to avoid falling for the same thing over and over again. But if you enjoy constant embarrassment, I'm not going to talk you out of it.

[ElNono]

Long time Clinton advisor feeds allegations to Danchenko. Danchenko feeds allegations to Steele. Steele feeds allegations to Fusion and FBI. Fusion feeds allegations to media. FBI uses allegations from Steele and media stories to apply for FISA warrants all the while having so many misstatements and omissions in the applications that the FISC would later say there was no probable cause to issue the warrants on Page.

The FBI gets allegations all the time. They don't all make it to the FISC, and they have to justify it in front of the FISC judge.

The FISC coming later on and saying "our bad" doesn't change the fact that they approved all of them.

Nor it changes the fact that the OIG himself, who looked at this in depth, also concluded that there was no evidence (outside of clinesmith, who was indicted, tried and sentenced) of intentional misconduct:

While we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted OI in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or problems we identified.

And therein lies the problem. Everybody can make allegations, proving them is a whole different ballgame.

[Adam Lambert]

People with room temperate IQ and above generally realize they've been used as fools, take a step back and use some critical thinking to avoid falling for the same thing over and over again. But if you enjoy constant embarrassment, I'm not going to talk you out of it.

Been saying the same thing to TDSA for four years while he continued to push bullshit from the same sources that had him believing companies were branding themselves with pizza-shaped logos to communicate that they were safe spaces for pedophilia.

He's lost. It's not worth engaging. You're doing yeoman's work here but I can't fathom spending any more time on these walls of text than it takes to scroll past them.

[ElNono]

Been saying the same thing to TDSA for four years while he continued to push bullshit from the same sources that had him believing companies were branding themselves with pizza-shaped logos to communicate that they were safe spaces for pedophilia.

He's lost. It's not worth engaging. You're doing yeoman's work here but I can't fathom spending any more time on these walls of text than it takes to scroll past them.

I don't understand the psyche of people like this, tbh, sound both fascinating and extremely sad at the same time.

People like Qhris or derp, poor fellas, you can tell they're missing a chromosome, but TSA never struck me as somebody like that. Completely partisan, sure, but what drives them to this same stuff over and over is strange, tbh...

[Cuck Ross]

I don't understand the psyche of people like this, tbh, sound both fascinating and extremely sad at the same time.

People like Qhris or derp, poor fellas, you can tell they're missing a chromosome, but TSA never struck me as somebody like that. Completely partisan, sure, but what drives them to this same stuff over and over is strange, tbh...

Plain and simple, entertainment.

[ChumpDumper]

You're a rube for your own entertainment?

:lol

[Cuck Ross]

I don't think your conspiracy is very clear at all. So the FBI are the ones that lied and didn't tell Mueller, but once Brandon got the right people at the FBI, they did told Durham?

Or the FBI told both, and both of them sit on it for a long ass time? Which one is it?



We're going in circles. Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were not part of any investigation at the time. Again, the allegations at the time were that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, which was reinforced after it was known that Flynn lied to the VP about talking to the Russian ambassador.

Mueller and Durham are not investigating the same thing either. I have zero problem with Durham's investigation, and I'll read his conclusions whenever they come up or when he speaks (just like I did with Mueller).

The problem I see here are useful idiots that try to spread fake news to establish a narrative by consistently jumping to conclusions that end up making them look stupid. Happened with the Mueller report, happened with the OIG report, happened with GUCCIFER 2.0, happened with Pizzagate, etc, etc, etc

People with room temperate IQ and above generally realize they've been used as fools, take a step back and use some critical thinking to avoid falling for the same thing over and over again. But if you enjoy constant embarrassment, I'm not going to talk you out of it.You're completely wrong. Danchenko was part of the investigation. Steele wouldn't give him up as a source so the FBI figured out who he was on their own and brought Danchenko in for multiple interviews. Mueller SCO took over the investigation from the FBI and continued to interview Danchenko.

The allegations (lies) Danchenko was feeding Steele were the entire basis of the Trump/Russia collusion hoax. All of the collusion allegations came from those two and Mueller was tasked with figuring out if those allegations were true or not. Mueller knew Danchenko was a red flag as Mueller's FBI investigated him as an agent of a foreign power when Mueller was the FBI director. Danchenko lied to the FBI before Mueller took over and Danchenko lied to Mueller once he took over investigation from FBI. Mueller decided not to prosecute Danchenko for lying to his SCO, even though his lies were the entire basis for the Trump/Russia collusion allegations.

[Blake]

Plain and simple, entertainment.


You're a rube for your own entertainment?

:lol

:lol

[Blake]

You're completely wrong.

:lol everyone else is completely wrong!

[Cuck Ross]

:lol everyone else is completely wrong!

He was wrong and I pointed out why. Now back to your corner cuck.

[Cuck Ross]

https://twitter.com/SergeiMillian/status/1458512379755511809

[Blake]

He was wrong and I pointed out why. Now back to your corner cuck.

Lol no I bet it's you that's completely wrong yet again for the umpteenth time, Cuck.

[ElNono]

Plain and simple, entertainment.

It entertains you to keep looking like a doofus? weird... ok.

[Cuck Ross]

Lol no I bet it's you that's completely wrong yet again for the umpteenth time, Cuck.

What do you want to bet?

[Spurs Homer]

You're a rube for your own entertainment?

:lol



:lol:lol:lol

[Blake]

What do you want to bet?

Lol what impartial source are we going to agree on to judge here?

You're an idiot, Cuck.

[Cuck Ross]

It's amazing how many Russia hoax believers now refuse to talk about the Russia hoax :lol

[Cuck Ross]

Lol what impartial source are we going to agree on to judge here?

You're an idiot, Cuck.

Judge Nono

[ElNono]

You're completely wrong. Danchenko was part of the investigation. Steele wouldn't give him up as a source so the FBI figured out who he was on their own and brought Danchenko in for multiple interviews. Mueller SCO took over the investigation from the FBI and continued to interview Danchenko.

You didn't answer the question. And link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?


The allegations (lies) Danchenko was feeding Steele were the entire basis of the Trump/Russia collusion hoax. All of the collusion allegations came from those two and Mueller was tasked with figuring out if those allegations were true or not. Mueller knew Danchenko was a red flag as Mueller's FBI investigated him as an agent of a foreign power when Mueller was the FBI director. Danchenko lied to the FBI before Mueller took over and Danchenko lied to Mueller once he took over investigation from FBI. Mueller decided not to prosecute Danchenko for lying to his SCO, even though his lies were the entire basis for the Trump/Russia collusion allegations.

False. The meeting in Trump's tower wasn't related to the Steele report. GUCCIFER 2.0 being a GRU unit, which Mueller dedicated an ample portion of his report to, was also not part of the Steele report. Neither was Wikileaks. Neither was Gates, etc etc etc.

Mueller's job was to investigate influence between the Trump campaign and foreign entities, and establish if there was collusion. There was not.

Durham's job is simply different: The Special Counsel is authorized to investigate whether any federal official, employee, or any other person or entity violated the law in connection with the intelligence, counter-intelligence, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns, and individuals associated with the administration of President Donald J. Trump, including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane and the investigation of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, Ill.

[Cuck Ross]

You didn't answer the question. And link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?



False. The meeting in Trump's tower wasn't related to the Steele report. GUCCIFER 2.0 being a GRU unit, which Mueller dedicated an ample portion of his report to, was also not part of the Steele report. Neither was Wikileaks. Neither was Gates, etc etc etc.

Mueller's job was to investigate influence between the Trump campaign and foreign entities, and establish if there was collusion. There was not.

Durham's job is simply different: The Special Counsel is authorized to investigate whether any federal official, employee, or any other person or entity violated the law in connection with the intelligence, counter-intelligence, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns, and individuals associated with the administration of President Donald J. Trump, including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane and the investigation of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, Ill. False what?

Mueller's main task was to investigate collusion. The only allegations of collusion came from Steele/Danchenko. After Mueller took over the investigation from the FBI Danchenko was interviewed and lied, again. Mueller's SCO did not go after or prosecute him for these lies. Danchenko was 100% part of the investigation as he was the one feeding the allegations that Mueller was investigating.

[ElNono]

False what?

Mueller's main task was to investigate collusion. The only allegations of collusion came from Steele/Danchenko. After Mueller took over the investigation from the FBI Danchenko was interviewed and lied, again. Mueller's SCO did not go after or prosecute him for these lies. Danchenko was 100% part of the investigation as he was the one feeding the allegations that Mueller was investigating.

False again. His report clearly goes at length that his investigation covered much, much more than the Steele dossier.

You continue to pretend that Flynn wasn't caught lying to the feds and his own VP about talking to the Russian ambassador (something that cost him his job and he admitted to in front of a judge) which also elevated the heat on finally hiring a Special Counsel to investigate that.

Sorry, I'm not taking your word for it (just like I didn't take djohn's). Link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?

[Blake]

Judge Nono




False.



False again

:lol

[Cuck Ross]

False again. His report clearly goes at length that his investigation covered much, much more than the Steele dossier.

You continue to pretend that Flynn wasn't caught lying to the feds and his own VP about talking to the Russian ambassador (something that cost him his job and he admitted to in front of a judge) which also elevated the heat on finally hiring a Special Counsel to investigate that.

Sorry, I'm not taking your word for it (just like I didn't take djohn's). Link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?

I never claimed his investigation covered only the Steele dossier. Here you go again arguing something I never claimed :lol

Don't take my word for it, it was in the indictment. Mueller took over the investigation in May 2017.

"In connection with the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation and the later
investigation by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III, the FBI relied substantially on the
Company Reports in these FISA applications to assert probable cause that Advisor- I was a witting
agent of the Russian Federation."


"In the context of these efforts, the FBI learned that U.K. Person-I relied primarily
on a U .S.-based Russian national, IGOR DANCHENKO ("DANCHENKO"), the defendant
herein, to collect the information that ultimately formed the core of the allegations found in the Company Reports.
From in or about January 2017 through in or about November 2017, and as
part of its efforts to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Company Reports,
the FBI conducted several interviews of DANCHENKO regarding, among other things, the
information that DANCHENKO had provided to U.K. Person-I (collectively, the "Interviews")."

https://www.justice.gov/sco/press-release/file/1446386/download

Now tell me again how Danchenko/Steele were never part of the Mueller investigation :rollin

[Cuck Ross]

:lol:rollin

"In connection with the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation and the later
investigation by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III, the FBI relied substantially on the
Company Reports in these FISA applications to assert probable cause that Advisor- I was a witting
agent of the Russian Federation."


"In the context of these efforts, the FBI learned that U.K. Person-I relied primarily
on a U .S.-based Russian national, IGOR DANCHENKO ("DANCHENKO"), the defendant
herein, to collect the information that ultimately formed the core of the allegations found in the Company Reports.
From in or about January 2017 through in or about November 2017, and as
part of its efforts to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Company Reports,
the FBI conducted several interviews of DANCHENKO regarding, among other things, the
information that DANCHENKO had provided to U.K. Person-I (collectively, the "Interviews")."

[DMC]

What do you want to bet?

He'll let you fuck his wife if he loses. (hint: He's planning on taking a dive)

[Blake]

I bet DMC will fantasize about my sex life again.

[Blake]

:rollin

"In connection with the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation and the later
investigation by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III, the FBI relied substantially on the
Company Reports in these FISA applications to assert probable cause that Advisor- I was a witting
agent of the Russian Federation."


"In the context of these efforts, the FBI learned that U.K. Person-I relied primarily
on a U .S.-based Russian national, IGOR DANCHENKO ("DANCHENKO"), the defendant
herein, to collect the information that ultimately formed the core of the allegations found in the Company Reports.
From in or about January 2017 through in or about November 2017, and as
part of its efforts to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Company Reports,
the FBI conducted several interviews of DANCHENKO regarding, among other things, the
information that DANCHENKO had provided to U.K. Person-I (collectively, the "Interviews")."


You picked the judge, Cuck.

:lol you're such an idiot

[Cuck Ross]

You picked the judge, Cuck.

:lol you're such an idiot

You are correct I picked the judge. So what do you want to bet?

[Blake]

You are correct I picked the judge. So what do you want to bet?

:lol you already lost so I'll bet you your house.

[Cuck Ross]

:lol you already lost so I'll bet you your house.

Explain how you think I lost.

[Blake]

Explain how you think I lost.

You made Nono the judge. He said you're wrong. That's it.

[Cuck Ross]

You made Nono the judge. He said you're wrong. That's it.
He’s been given irrefutable evidence he was wrong. He’ll see it and admit it.

So what do you want to bet?

[Blake]

He’s been given irrefutable evidence he was wrong. He’ll see it and admit it.

So what do you want to bet?

He already said that you're wrong. That's it.

Lol "irrefutable"

[Cuck Ross]

He already said that you're wrong. That's it.

Lol "irrefutable"
And he’ll be back to say I was right. And yes, irrefutable.

[DMC]

Blake never offers any substance, just interjections and quips. He's never gotten over "her". #stillwither (not the Clinton whore, the other whore)

[Blake]

DMC just here to talk about my personal life.

[Blake]

And he’ll be back to say I was right. And yes, irrefutable.

:lmao

[Cuck Ross]

Blake never offers any substance, just interjections and quips. He's never gotten over "her". #stillwither (not the Clinton whore, the other whore)
Quips from the cuck corner

[DMC]

Quips from the cuck corner

"Yeah that's it, fuck her, she deserves it.. I deserve it.. I'll never have her they way you have her, fuck her. Fuck her"

[Blake]

DMC just here to talk about my personal life.

I mean, lol.

"Quips" :lol

[ElNono]

I never claimed his investigation covered only the Steele dossier. Here you go again arguing something I never claimed :lol

That's exactly what you're implying. You're claiming that without the Steele dossier there would be no Mueller investigation, and that's pure speculation.

The fact is that the Mueller report based very little, if anything, on that dossier.



Don't take my word for it, it was in the indictment. Mueller took over the investigation in May 2017.

"In connection with the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation and the later
investigation by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III, the FBI relied substantially on the
Company Reports in these FISA applications to assert probable cause that Advisor- I was a witting
agent of the Russian Federation."


"In the context of these efforts, the FBI learned that U.K. Person-I relied primarily
on a U .S.-based Russian national, IGOR DANCHENKO ("DANCHENKO"), the defendant
herein, to collect the information that ultimately formed the core of the allegations found in the Company Reports.
From in or about January 2017 through in or about November 2017, and as
part of its efforts to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Company Reports,
the FBI conducted several interviews of DANCHENKO regarding, among other things, the
information that DANCHENKO had provided to U.K. Person-I (collectively, the "Interviews")."

https://www.justice.gov/sco/press-release/file/1446386/download

Now tell me again how Danchenko/Steele were never part of the Mueller investigation :rollin

:lmao because you can't read? It doesn't say Mueller relied on it, it merely says Mueller took over the investigation from the FBI.

As a matter of fact, it plainly states it was the FBI, not Mueller, that relied on that to seek FISA applications.

Again, now it's your time to stop dodging and put up: link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?

[ElNono]

The real point to address here is the FBI, tbh... which apparently are the good or bad guys depending if you like who they busted or didn't, or who they investigated or didn't. So let's get a few things out of the way:

- The FBI receives a million tips every day. The vast majority are bullshit. They try to weed out what's either credible or what would have serious implications (natsec or otherwise) if they were true, and launches investigations into those.

- Some of them might reach the FISC, some might not.

- Even if they reach the FISC and approved, it's only for surveillance. It doesn't mean the investigation is a sure-fire thing or anything. It's their duty to investigate, that's why they're called the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The surveillance is requested because there might be probable cause of a crime, that's why there's judicial review (I should repeat for the nth time though, that I don't like secret courts and the FISC is a secret court. While the judicial review standard is met, the fact that it lacks an adversary is, IMO, weak. Plus, the regular judicial system has the tools to deal with secrecy when warranted).

- *If* they find evidence of a crime, all they can do is hand it to the DOJ for prosecution, who might or might not prosecute. This split is not capricious. It's an additional bar that must be met to certify that the evidence can withstand scrutiny.

- Also notable, because apparently it's feigned as not-known, they do investigate political candidates and political persons all the time. We all know this because Shillary was a candidate and we knew the FBI had at least a file on her on butter emails, plus the FBI itself came out like 2 weeks before the election to point out that they were re-opening that investigation.

So the FBI is, generally, neither good or bad. They just do their job. When the OIG looked specifically at the FISA requests, they spotted clinesmith (who got tried) and on the same report stated plainly they found no written or oral evidence of any crime. The process was a mess, and full of mistakes, sure. But when you go to a criminal court, 'connect the dots' doesn't win you cases, actual tangible evidence does.

I will give you this though: what made the FBI look bad here is that somebody leaked to the press, and eventually Shillary, that the investigation was ongoing. All these investigations are supposed to be strictly secret, because in a lot of cases don't lead to anything. To the point that the FBI never officially comments on ongoing investigations.

That was wrong, and that really was the political operation, if you want to call it that.

[Blake]

Yeah but "irrefutable"

[Cuck Ross]

That's exactly what you're implying. You're claiming that without the Steele dossier there would be no Mueller investigation, and that's pure speculation.

The fact is that the Mueller report based very little, if anything, on that dossier.



:lmao because you can't read? It doesn't say Mueller relied on it, it merely says Mueller took over the investigation from the FBI.

As a matter of fact, it plainly states it was the FBI, not Mueller, that relied on that to seek FISA applications.

Again, now it's your time to stop dodging and put up: link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?
Holy shit dude you’ve completely abandoned the original point of contention. You really need to go back to the start of our convo and see how far you’ve veered. Hint: I said Mueller SCO was either incompetent or negligent based on something.

You been drinking all day? Seriously shocked to see you stray like this lol.

[Cuck Ross]

Holy shit dude you’ve completely abandoned the original point of contention. You really need to go back to the start of our convo and see how far you’ve veered. Hint: I said Mueller SCO was either incompetent or negligent based on something.

You been drinking all day? Seriously shocked to see you stray like this lol.Here’s your refresher. Lol at how far you’ve gone off path.


Was Mueller's team incompetent or did they turn a blind eye to everything Steele/Sussman/Danchenko/Dolan?

[Blake]

Holy shit dude you’ve completely abandoned the original point of contention. You really need to go back to the start of our convo and see how far you’ve veered. Hint: I said Mueller SCO was either incompetent or negligent based on something.

You been drinking all day? Seriously shocked to see you stray like this lol.

Shocked!!!

[ElNono]

Holy shit dude you’ve completely abandoned the original point of contention. You really need to go back to the start of our convo and see how far you’ve veered. Hint: I said Mueller SCO was either incompetent or negligent based on something.

You been drinking all day? Seriously shocked to see you stray like this lol.

I been fine all along, not sure I can say same the about you, but hope you're doing alright too.

You've been saying Mueller, Mueller, Mueller all day, but provided zero evidence Mueller was investigating any of these people.

Just stop dodging and start putting up: link where Steele/Sussman/Danchenko (and Clinton) were part of any investigation at the time?

[Cuck Ross]

That's exactly what you're implying. You're claiming that without the Steele dossier there would be no Mueller investigation, and that's pure speculation.Never implied nor claimed that. You’re making shut up.


The fact is that the Mueller report based very little, if anything, on that dossier.So? I’m not discussing what the report was based on.




:lmao because you can't read? It doesn't say Mueller relied on it,Again, I never said he relied on it.


it merely says Mueller took over the investigation from the FBI.

As a matter of fact, it plainly states it was the FBI, not Mueller, that relied on that to seek FISA applications.Mueller took over the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation starting in May 2017. Mueller’s team was FBI. FISA’s sought after Crossfire Hurricane was shuttered were sought under Mueller’s investigation. Danchenko was interviewed multiple times after Mueller took over the investigation. The FBI knew Danchenko lied in February, and Mueller’s team knew he lied once they took over the investigation. Mueller had no problem charging Flynn, Gates, Manafort, and Papadapolous for lying, why didn’t Mueller charge Danchenko for lying?

[ElNono]

Never implied nor claimed that. You’re making shut up.

Short memory? It's in the last page, let me quote you:


The allegations (lies) Danchenko was feeding Steele were the entire basis of the Trump/Russia collusion hoax.



So? I’m not discussing what the report was based on.


Again, I never said he relied on it.

That's convenient but the entire premise you presented here that Mueller was negligent or incompetent rests on attempting to prove that Mueller relied on that dossier for his investigation, since Danchenko is only involved in that dossier.


Mueller took over the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation starting in May 2017. Mueller’s team was FBI. FISA’s sought after Crossfire Hurricane was shuttered were sought under Mueller’s investigation. Danchenko was interviewed multiple times after Mueller took over the investigation. The FBI knew Danchenko lied in February, and Mueller’s team knew he lied once they took over the investigation. Mueller had no problem charging Flynn, Gates, Manafort, and Papadapolous for lying, why didn’t Mueller charge Danchenko for lying?

No, Mueller's team was not the FBI. I know you would love that to be the case, but it's not. Mueller's team worked with the FBI and took over some of their investigations, just as Durham's team is also working with the FBI and took over some of their investigations.

The FBI is the investigative and enforcement arm. Rick Gates was arrested by the FBI, but was charged and prosecuted by Mueller's team of lawyers in coordination with the DOJ. Similarly, Danchenko was arrested by the FBI, but will be charged and prosecuted by Durham's team in coordination with the DOJ.

Mueller charged those people because he had the evidence to back it up in court. As a matter of fact, most of those people actually plead guilty. Durham is doing the same with Danchenko because he appears to have the evidence that will withstand in court.

Why Mueller didn't charge Danchenko? Hard to know without more details, but plenty of plausible explanations:

- He didn't have the evidence at the time. Durham has been working on this for over a year and apparently didn't have the evidence either until now (and he did have evidence on Clinesmith, who was charged early on)

- Mueller and Durham investigations have different goals and target different people.

Don't forget also that Durham's investigation also includes Mueller's team. Yet, nobody from that team was indicted alongside Danchenko as co-conspirators or anything of the sort, at least not yet.

Like I said earlier, have no problem with Durham's investigation, actually good that's being done. I'm just not going to jump into conclusions, just like I didn't during Mueller's investigation.

[Cuck Ross]

Short memory? It's in the last page, let me quote you:








That's convenient but the entire premise you presented here that Mueller was negligent or incompetent rests on attempting to prove that Mueller relied on that dossier for his investigation, since Danchenko is only involved in that dossier.


No, Mueller's team was not the FBI. I know you would love that to be the case, but it's not. Mueller's team worked with the FBI and took over some of their investigations, just as Durham's team is also working with the FBI and took over some of their investigations.

The FBI is the investigative and enforcement arm. Rick Gates was arrested by the FBI, but was charged and prosecuted by Mueller's team of lawyers in coordination with the DOJ. Similarly, Danchenko was arrested by the FBI, but will be charged and prosecuted by Durham's team in coordination with the DOJ.

Mueller charged those people because he had the evidence to back it up in court. As a matter of fact, most of those people actually plead guilty. Durham is doing the same with Danchenko because he appears to have the evidence that will withstand in court.

Why Mueller didn't charge Danchenko? Hard to know without more details, but plenty of plausible explanations:

- He didn't have the evidence at the time. Durham has been working on this for over a year and apparently didn't have the evidence either until now (and he did have evidence on Clinesmith, who was charged early on)

- Mueller and Durham investigations have different goals and target different people.

Don't forget also that Durham's investigation also includes Mueller's team. Yet, nobody from that team was indicted alongside Danchenko as co-conspirators or anything of the sort, at least not yet.

Like I said earlier, have no problem with Durham's investigation, actually good that's being done. I'm just not going to jump into conclusions, just like I didn't during Mueller's investigation.


Are you FINALLY conceding that Danchenko was in fact part Mueller’s investigation? :lol

I never claimed Mueller relied on the dossier for his investigation I just said it was a part of it.

I also never claimed Mueller’s team was “the” FBI, I just said his team was FBI.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/17/mueller-fbi-team-russia-probe-594345

He obviously also worked with DOJ but you get my point concerning the investigation aspect.

Pretty flimsy to claim Mueller might not have had the evidence at the time considering he took over the investigation after FBI analyst already knew Danchenko lied to the FBI. (already linked that for you). So Mueller didn’t charge because of incompetence (didn’t read FBI analysis of interview) or negligent (read analysis but didn’t charge)

[ElNono]

Are you FINALLY conceding that Danchenko was in fact part Mueller’s investigation? :lol

No, I don't. I don't know either way, I've been asking you for evidence, but so far, just flailing.

I'm simply pointing out that even under your own theory, there's rational explanations that don't include any conspiracy, and also line up with Durham's investigation as well.


I never claimed Mueller relied on the dossier for his investigation I just said it was a part of it.

There's simply no evidence of that. Feel free to present it anytime you want. Tired of asking and nothing showing up.


I also never claimed Mueller’s team was “the” FBI, I just said his team was FBI.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/17/mueller-fbi-team-russia-probe-594345

He obviously also worked with DOJ but you get my point concerning the investigation aspect.

No, I don't get your point. Durham's team "is FBI" also, whatever that means. Special prosecutors work with federal law enforcement, that happens to be the FBI. They also work with the DOJ. Danchenko himself was arrested by FBI agents.

Mueller had his own teams of lawyers as well, which are the ones that presented the cases against Gates, etc.


Pretty flimsy to claim Mueller might not have had the evidence at the time considering he took over the investigation after FBI analyst already knew Danchenko lied to the FBI. (already linked that for you). So Mueller didn’t charge because of incompetence (didn’t read FBI analysis of interview) or negligent (read analysis but didn’t charge)

The problem with this theory is that it would also indicate Durham is incompetent and negligent since he had this 'evidence' for over a year and didn't do anything with it. It's just implausible.

I don't deem neither Mueller nor Durham any of those things. Especially Mueller, whose investigation was indeed top notch (I don't recall him losing any case he presented in court on this matter, for example).

[Blake]

He’s been given irrefutable evidence he was wrong. He’ll see it and admit it.

So what do you want to bet?


He already said that you're wrong. That's it.

Lol "irrefutable"


And he’ll be back to say I was right. And yes, irrefutable.


Are you FINALLY conceding that Danchenko was in fact part Mueller’s investigation? :lol



No, I don't. I don't know either way, I've been asking you for evidence, but so far, just flailing.



:lmao

[Winehole23]

demanding agreement and "always being right" is a disease, more or less

[Cuck Ross]

No, I don't. I don't know either way, I've been asking you for evidence, but so far, just flailing.

I'm simply pointing out that even under your own theory, there's rational explanations that don't include any conspiracy, and also line up with Durham's investigation as well.



There's simply no evidence of that. Feel free to present it anytime you want. Tired of asking and nothing showing up.



No, I don't get your point. Durham's team "is FBI" also, whatever that means. Special prosecutors work with federal law enforcement, that happens to be the FBI. They also work with the DOJ. Danchenko himself was arrested by FBI agents.

Mueller had his own teams of lawyers as well, which are the ones that presented the cases against Gates, etc.



The problem with this theory is that it would also indicate Durham is incompetent and negligent since he had this 'evidence' for over a year and didn't do anything with it. It's just implausible.

I don't deem neither Mueller nor Durham any of those things. Especially Mueller, whose investigation was indeed top notch (I don't recall him losing any case he presented in court on this matter, for example).
There’s no evidence that the Steele dossier was part of Mueller’s investigation? :lol

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Mueller said Page didn’t coordinate with the Russian government and that Cohen didn’t go to Prague. Where did those allegations come from?

[ElNono]

There’s no evidence that the Steele dossier was part of Mueller’s investigation? :lol

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Mueller said Page didn’t coordinate with the Russian government and that Cohen didn’t go to Prague. Where did those allegations come from?

But that's exactly the point, it actually directly contradicts the dossier, which points to Mueller conducting it's own investigation on the matter, and not using/relying on the dossier.

The only mention of the dossier or Steele in the entire report is a re-print of a Trump tweet (Page 111), and that Congress (not him) relied on that report to question Cohen (Page 139)

However, Mueller's report also points out why there was probable cause to investigate Carter Page: Russian intelligence officials had formed relationships with Page in 2008 and 2013

[Cuck Ross]

But that's exactly the point, it actually directly contradicts the dossier, which points to Mueller conducting it's own investigation on the matter, and not using/relying on the dossier.

The only mention of the dossier or Steele in the entire report is a re-print of a Trump tweet (Page 111), and that Congress (not him) relied on that report to question Cohen (Page 139)

However, Mueller's report also points out why there was probable cause to investigate Carter Page: Russian intelligence officials had formed relationships with Page in 2008 and 2013
Where did the allegations of Page and Cohen come from that Mueller contradicted?

And the FISC shit all over probable cause of Page :lol

[ElNono]

Where did the allegations of Page and Cohen come from that Mueller contradicted?

It doesn't matter where they come from, we're discussing if Mueller used/relied on the dossier, and that's clearly not the case based on his own report (which directly contradicts the dossier, thus it's indicative he conducted his own research on that line of investigation after taking it over from the FBI)


And the FISC shit all over probable cause of Page :lol

It wasn't the FISC, it was actually the DOJ letting the FISC know:

DOJ assess that with respect to the applications in Docket Numbers 17-375 and 17-679, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

This is the DOJ telling the FISC they definitely made a mistake with at least two of the four requests (the last two). A more in-depth, legal and non-partisan read on this here:

https://www.justsecurity.org/68472/deciphering-the-fiscs-order-on-the-carter-page-fisa-application/

[Cuck Ross]

It doesn't matter where they come from, we're discussing if Mueller used/relied on the dossier, and that's clearly not the case based on his own report (which directly contradicts the dossier, thus it's indicative he conducted his own research on that line of investigation after taking it over from the FBI)I'm not sure we are just talking past each other or if you are just completely misunderstanding what I am saying. You keep bringing up Mueller relying on the dossier, I've never claimed that once. Mueller used the allegations from the dossier, investigated them, and directly contradicted the dossier. The dossier was part of Mueller's investigation.



It wasn't the FISC, it was actually the DOJ letting the FISC know:

DOJ assess that with respect to the applications in Docket Numbers 17-375 and 17-679, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

This is the DOJ telling the FISC they definitely made a mistake with at least two of the four requests (the last two). A more in-depth, legal and non-partisan read on this here:

https://www.justsecurity.org/68472/deciphering-the-fiscs-order-on-the-carter-page-fisa-application/

I had to stop reading after seeing it was from hyper partisan Collusion hoax believing Comey is my homey shirt wearing CNN resistance analyst Asha Rangappa. She's that last person to go for for in-depth non partisan legal analysis.

I'll never forget this doozy from her.
It Ain’t Easy Getting a FISA Warrant: I Was an FBI Agent and Should Knowhttps://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/

[Cuck Ross]

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[Cuck Ross]

In addition to their representation of defendant, a separate lawyer at the firm is currently representing the 2016 “Hillary for America” presidential campaign (“Clinton Campaign”), as well as multiple former employees of that campaign, in matters before the Special Counsel.

:wow

[Ef-man]

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Is there anything in the tweet about a satanic cabal that eats children in the basement of a pizza place?

Asking for a desperate tsa working 24/7 in korea, without internet.

[ChumpDumper]

This just in: People in contact with an investigation have legal representation!

[Cuck Ross]

Is there anything in the tweet about a satanic cabal that eats children in the basement of a pizza place?

Asking for a desperate tsa working 24/7 in korea, without internet.

What does it feel like to be the least replied to poster in the political forum? For a quite some time I just thought everyone had you on ignore but then a few days ago I actually saw someone respond to you. Are you even aware that 99% of your posts are ignored by everyone here? No comments, no quotes, not even a pity lol. It’s time for you to either create another alt or just stop posting. You’ve killed your current handle.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, you just replied to him and you'll probably comment about me again....

[Ef-man]

What does it feel like to be the least replied to poster in the political forum? For a quite some time I just thought everyone had you on ignore but then a few days ago I actually saw someone respond to you. Are you even aware that 99% of your posts are ignored by everyone here? No comments, no quotes, not even a pity lol. It’s time for you to either create another alt or just stop posting. You’ve killed your current handle.

Did I hit a nerve? Made you upset?

:lol

[Spurs Homer]

ZERO

I SAID


ZERO FBI
ZERO INTEL
ZERO- PERIOD - people in jumpsuits…


just a bonafide DISTRACTION INVESTIGATION TO COVER FOR THE TRAITORS TREASON



:elephant:elephant:cry:drunk:clap:clap:rollin:roll in:lmao:lmao:rollin

[Spurs Homer]

Bbbut- DAT DEEP STATE THO’


bwahahahaha

lol

comrade TSA

[Winehole23]

Coffee boy's big mouth, tbh

1658196009455951873

[Winehole23]

Mueller investigation: several parties found guilty.

Durham investigation: *wet fart sound*

[Winehole23]

Released without cuts or editing, unlike the Barr summation.

[Spurs Homer]

Mueller investigation: several parties found guilty.

Durham investigation: *wet fart sound*

11 trump administration people convicted of crimes -

mueller also charged russians who assisted the trump campaign

bbbb-but durham trying to spin that the fbi should NOT have investigated…
(IG had already cleared fbi)

glad we dont decide to investigate crimes by DURHAM standards….
instead we go by probable cause and evidence

[Winehole23]

no additional recommended charges, no sweeping reforms proposed.

the highlighted seems more of a quibble than an accusation.

"sensible step...to open a preliminary investigation"



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwNMrvdXsAAHplI?format=png&name=900x900https://www.justice.gov/storage/durhamreport.pdf

[boutons_deux]

"It's Like, Just Your Opinion, Man" A Repug hired gun and his directed conclusion.


Pootin has been corrupteding Repugs, eg Ginni Thomas, through fund in Dominica.

Corrupt, traito Trash still refuses to take Ukraine's side against his wingman Pootin.

[boutons_deux]

The Corporate Media Goes Full Republican Pander

Here are a few headlines from corporate media outlets:

CNN: Special counsel John Durham concludes FBI never should have launched full Trump-Russia probe

NYT: In Final Report, Trump-Era Special Counsel Denounces Russia Investigation

Washington Post: Durham report sharply criticizes FBI’s 2016 Trump campaign probe

NBC News: Special counsel issues report criticizing FBI for launching Trump-Russia investigation

-- PoliticsUSA email

[Spurs Homer]

The Corporate Media Goes Full Republican Pander

Here are a few headlines from corporate media outlets:

CNN: Special counsel John Durham concludes FBI never should have launched full Trump-Russia probe

NYT: In Final Report, Trump-Era Special Counsel Denounces Russia Investigation

Washington Post: Durham report sharply criticizes FBI’s 2016 Trump campaign probe

NBC News: Special counsel issues report criticizing FBI for launching Trump-Russia investigation

-- PoliticsUSA email

because they are all trying to court treasonous trump/fox defectors for the next election…

only msnbc (so far) is calling a spade a spade

they are basically reporting that Mueller convicted several people so it makes ZERO sense that an
fbi investigation should NOT have been done

as the CONVICTIONS speak louder than a partisans (Durham) OPINION!

and if DURHAM has such confidence in his opinions and accusations- HE WOULD HAVE ACQUIRED CONVICTIONS

end of story

there was no “hoax” and trump in fact is a fucking traitor as everyone knows

[ElNono]

Wonder if the news traveled to South Korea yet, tbh...

[spurraider21]

so his big conclusion is that there was no criminal activity and that he respectfully disagrees with the big OIG report that said the investigation had the proper factual predicate to be launched

[ChumpDumper]

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[Spurs Homer]

1658273190274035712

that is the CULT for you…

re-arrange the planet to make it fit or match what dear leader spouted…

[DarrinS]

You guys were gaslit for years. Congrats