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Rusty
10-15-2020, 10:51 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2913742-report-some-clippers-bristled-at-kawhi-missing-games-being-late-for-flights


Players like Beverley, Montrezl Harrell and Lou Williams — Clippers bedrocks before the arrival of Leonard and George — bristled when Leonard was permitted to take games off to manage his body and to live in San Diego, which often led to him being late for team flights, league sources said. The team also allowed Leonard to dictate to Rivers when he could be pulled from games, among other things. Lue was on Rivers’ bench for all of this, but the Clippers were Rivers’ show.

Wow....no wonder Popovich hates his guts :lol

Robz4000
10-15-2020, 10:54 PM
:lol Nephew looking worse and worse

Chinook
10-15-2020, 11:37 PM
What's annoying is that it's probably not even Leonard being lazy. He's probably being late because Unc thinks it shows Kawhi's status. Or maybe Leonard has to walk to the airport because Den-dog isn't about taking the shuttles the team provides.

tim_duncan_fan
10-15-2020, 11:49 PM
Ah. I see he is someone else's embarrassment now.

Dark days don't last forever, people. Things happened as they should have.

daslicer
10-15-2020, 11:53 PM
Ah. I see he is someone else's embarrassment now.

Dark days don't last forever, people. Things happened as they should have.

Agreed he's the Clippers problem now.

weeks
10-16-2020, 12:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/D2FXHQq.jpg

timtonymanu
10-16-2020, 12:21 AM
Uncle really has to wipe Nephew’s ass everywhere he goes.

I still remember how annoyed Rudy Gay seemed by the Nephew situation in San Antonio.

ginobilized
10-16-2020, 12:30 AM
Does Kawhi have a no trade clause in his contract?
I’d love to see him shipped out to Cleveland, Detroit or Minnesota.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
10-16-2020, 12:47 AM
better than the spurs

spurs10
10-16-2020, 12:50 AM
Yeah they didn't seem to have any 'team spirit,' and they won't as long as he's treated like a prima donna. Glad to see some of players were not letting his special trreatment slide. He'll try to walk over Lue now....we'll see.

Dancelot
10-16-2020, 12:53 AM
better than the spurs
I don’t understand what are you trying to say here? The clippers are better? This quote makes no sense, trolling or not.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
10-16-2020, 12:56 AM
I don’t understand what are you trying to say here? The clippers are better? This quote makes no sense, trolling or not.

yes. exactly.

despite the tmz drama. the clippers are in a far better position as a team and a franchise than our beloved mermaids.

daslicer
10-16-2020, 12:57 AM
Yeah they didn't seem to have any 'team spirit,' and they won't as long as he's treated like a prima donna. Glad to see some of players were not letting his special trreatment slide. He'll try to walk over Lue now....we'll see.

Lue is a softie no way is he going to be able to stand up to Kawhi. Lue is what I call a "yes man".

Fireball
10-16-2020, 01:04 AM
love to read this about Kawhi but normally everybody says the source sucks ...

daslicer
10-16-2020, 01:33 AM
Uncle really has to wipe Nephew’s ass everywhere he goes.

I still remember how annoyed Rudy Gay seemed by the Nephew situation in San Antonio.

Agreed you can see it in Rudy's reaction to Danny Green talking about Kawhi's legacy in SA at 32:22
GGTmQkH9qbM

DeRozan m8
10-16-2020, 03:27 AM
Hard to gauge how much of a prima dona he is, because he has no personality and doesn't fucking talk...

But looks like once he hit that full star level, he's become an absolute fuck

JPB
10-16-2020, 07:52 AM
yes. exactly.

despite the tmz drama. the clippers are in a far better position as a team and a franchise than our beloved mermaids.

Looking at their roster, not sure of that... 70M goes to 2 players, with a handful of guys already complaining about Kawhi... Meanwhile, Spurs have a good core of young promising players and some cap in the years to come.

JPB
10-16-2020, 07:57 AM
https://i.imgur.com/D2FXHQq.jpg

Gotta love how they picture "we over me" with PG13 and Nephew ignoring themselves and looking in complete opposite direction

poopbox
10-16-2020, 08:20 AM
yes. exactly.

despite the tmz drama. the clippers are in a far better position as a team and a franchise than our beloved mermaids.

Clippers don't have a 1st round pick in forever nor do they have any cap space, but they are somehow in a better position than the spurs ?

Dex
10-16-2020, 09:02 AM
Looking at their roster, not sure of that... 70M goes to 2 players, with a handful of guys already complaining about Kawhi... Meanwhile, Spurs have a good core of young promising players and some cap in the years to come.

My thoughts exactly.

Kawhi and PG ain't going to stick around forever, especially if they underachieve again or if the new coaching staff decides its not going to put up with Kawhi's bullshit (Ballmer probably won't let that happen though).

Beyond that, they'll have an old core and no draft capital for like the next 5 years...and despite how they act, the Clippers are still the little brother in L.A.

They may be in a better position to content for the next year or two, but it could go south really fast if either of their stars wants to bolt.

rjv
10-16-2020, 10:46 AM
leonard has a degenerative injury and a coach killing uncle. not a good combination.

wildbill2u
10-16-2020, 11:02 AM
Players handle stardom and adulation differently. I think there was another SuperStar that wanted privileges like a private jet and was always late, leaving his teammates to wait on the practtice courts for the star to arrive. We don't know that Kwahi is showing traits like this for sure, but it all starts with rumors/bitching from teammates off the record.

spursparker9
10-16-2020, 11:03 AM
Stephen A.: Kawhi has been described as 'selfish' & 'indifferent'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4KUBBFE2o&ab_channel=ESPN

The Truth #6
10-16-2020, 11:05 AM
They knew what they were getting into. I say, let ‘em crash.

https://youtu.be/ESzxGYDkwG8

Obi Juan Kenobi
10-16-2020, 11:46 AM
Stephen A.: Kawhi has been described as 'selfish' & 'indifferent'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4KUBBFE2o&ab_channel=ESPN

Finally people are starting to wise up to Nephew's antics that we've all known here for awhile...

daslicer
10-16-2020, 11:53 AM
Finally people are starting to wise up to Nephew's antics that we've all known here for awhile...

I think the media always knew he was a POS but protected him simply because they wanted him to be a Laker and also wanted access from him. Once he denied them both things that's when they turned on him.

Mugen
10-16-2020, 11:57 AM
Pretty hilarious tbh. Not as hilarious as trading him for Derozan and gifting him and the Raptors a ring (while sending out extra $$$ for that privilege :lol) but still funny.

Dejounte
10-16-2020, 12:19 PM
He thinks he's Kobe before he's even reached Kobe status

Humility is a concept that went over his head

daslicer
10-16-2020, 12:35 PM
He thinks he's Kobe before he's even reached Kobe status

Humility is a concept that went over his head

The only thing I wonder is how much of this is his doing and how much is it him allowing his Uncle to dictate his actions.

MultiTroll
10-16-2020, 01:38 PM
The only thing I wonder is how much of this is his doing and how much is it him allowing his Uncle to dictate his actions.
Huge imo.
Talked to his college coach. No way in hell was Kwa planning all along to bolt to LA as PATFO Slurpers agendize.
Conversations he had with Kwa before getting Zaza'd was he thought he would be a Spur forever.

TDMVPDPOY
10-16-2020, 05:52 PM
Huge imo.
Talked to his college coach. No way in hell was Kwa planning all along to bolt to LA as PATFO Slurpers agendize.
Conversations he had with Kwa before getting Zaza'd was he thought he would be a Spur forever.

no shit, none of this bs happened since the last championship...something mustve happen that he felt the direction patfo was going didnt go the way he wanted...

didnt help when u still have 3 tosb on the team
didnt help you sign a FA lma to the team who wanted to be first option on offense and was complaining about touches..
then you see patfo being tight with their purse, players like simmons, lee, bayne leaving... they had a good core going

widowmaker
10-16-2020, 06:07 PM
Huge imo.
Talked to his college coach. No way in hell was Kwa planning all along to bolt to LA as PATFO Slurpers agendize.
Conversations he had with Kwa before getting Zaza'd was he thought he would be a Spur forever.

Talked to his coach in college too back in 2017 while i was fishing off the coast of Alaska. He told me nephew was planning on free agency to eventually bolt to LA but nephew wasn’t sure how to go about it. Then he got Zazad and found the way. I waved good bye to his coach and thanked him for the conversation.

Dancelot
10-16-2020, 07:07 PM
They knew what they were getting into. I say, let ‘em crash.

https://youtu.be/ESzxGYDkwG8
You know, I’m not sure they did know that he’d become such a little bitch. I’m STILL confused as to why nephew was such a douche when forcing his way out of SA.

daslicer
10-16-2020, 07:13 PM
no shit, none of this bs happened since the last championship...something mustve happen that he felt the direction patfo was going didnt go the way he wanted...

didnt help when u still have 3 tosb on the team
didnt help you sign a FA lma to the team who wanted to be first option on offense and was complaining about touches..
then you see patfo being tight with their purse, players like simmons, lee, bayne leaving... they had a good core going

His Uncle didn't want him here. That's what it came down to. He's a dumb pawn of his Uncle. It's now evident with what's going on with the Clippers and what happened with the Raptors

ZeusWillJudge
10-16-2020, 08:38 PM
Stephen A.: Kawhi has been described as 'selfish' & 'indifferent'


He's not "selfish and indifferent". He's a fucking autist. He's just waiting for for Wheel Of Fortune to come on.

Phenomanul
10-16-2020, 08:51 PM
What was incredibly telling was watching the video montages of Ginobili's Jersey Retirement ceremony and Parker's; none of the highlight clips showed Kawhi at all...

daslicer
10-16-2020, 08:53 PM
What was incredibly telling was watching the video montages of Ginobili's Jersey Retirement ceremony and Parker's; none of the highlight clips showed Kawhi at all...

I think Manu and Parker despise Kawhi and rightfully so. I have noticed Manu tends to praise guys on twitter during the playoffs for playing well but he didn't have anything to say about Kawhi the last 2 years.

daslicer
10-16-2020, 08:58 PM
You know, I’m not sure they did know that he’d become such a little bitch. I’m STILL confused as to why nephew was such a douche when forcing his way out of SA.

I think Kawhi is either an autist on the low spectrum or has some socially limiting condition like Asperger. He made the mistake of blindly trusting his Uncle to handle all of his personal affairs. I really do believe if Uncle Dennis told him to jump off a cliff that he would do it.

Degoat
10-16-2020, 09:51 PM
This has been brought many times but how telling of a POS that kawhi is, that spurs let Tony Parker leave the team and play for the hornets. You know that had to do with the spurs trying to keep kawhi from leaving

exstatic
10-16-2020, 10:05 PM
This has been brought many times but how telling of a POS that kawhi is, that spurs let Tony Parker leave the team and play for the hornets. You know that had to do with the spurs trying to keep kawhi from leaving

Nope. That was on Parker. He didn’t want the small role the Spurs had for him. By all accounts, the money was not an issue.

The irony is that he probably would have STARTED once DJ blew his knee. Instead, he went and played one forgettable year in Charlotte, ruining his one team career.

Degoat
10-16-2020, 10:32 PM
Nope. That was on Parker. He didn’t want the small role the Spurs had for him. By all accounts, the money was not an issue.

The irony is that he probably would have STARTED once DJ blew his knee. Instead, he went and played one forgettable year in Charlotte, ruining his one team career.

Idk man, no way the spurs let Parker walk unless it was to try and keep Kawhi imo. Plenty of has beens had big roles for pop, Parker would have played more than any of the guards if we kept him

timtonymanu
10-16-2020, 10:34 PM
I think Kawhi is either an autist on the low spectrum or has some socially limiting condition like Asperger. He made the mistake of blindly trusting his Uncle to handle all of his personal affairs. I really do believe if Uncle Dennis told him to jump off a cliff that he would do it.

Honestly he had a lot of respect here in San Antonio. Was very lowkey and didn't need the spotlight like Lebron and just did his thing on the court. Turns out he was a complete cancer off the court. Call LA home or a big market, but he probably was better off staying in San Antonio, for sure they would have been contenders with him and the young core. Hell, he even could have stayed in Toronto. Instead, he's on a team with a lot of horrible contracts and no future. He and Uncle deserve this. Never have I turned on a player so much like I did on Nephew.

alpha_HaZE
10-16-2020, 11:40 PM
What's annoying is that it's probably not even Leonard being lazy. He's probably being late because Unc thinks it shows Kawhi's status. Or maybe Leonard has to walk to the airport because Den-dog isn't about taking the shuttles the team provides.

According to the report, he was late because he was allowed to live in San Diego. Not sure how that correlates, since he probably used a helicopter to commute.

daslicer
10-17-2020, 01:20 AM
Honestly he had a lot of respect here in San Antonio. Was very lowkey and didn't need the spotlight like Lebron and just did his thing on the court. Turns out he was a complete cancer off the court. Call LA home or a big market, but he probably was better off staying in San Antonio, for sure they would have been contenders with him and the young core. Hell, he even could have stayed in Toronto. Instead, he's on a team with a lot of horrible contracts and no future. He and Uncle deserve this. Never have I turned on a player so much like I did on Nephew.

Agreed I never thought I would ever find a former spur that I hate as much as Rodman in Kawhi. I guess I shouldn't say hate anymore because I have gotten over him leaving. I just look at him as a pretty stupid guy. My theory about him is once his dad died that he needed another male parental figure to guide him and latched on to Uncle Dennis. He didn't have the typical maturation that most kids do have once they leave college and live on their own in the sense they start making decisions independent of their parents. The fact of the matter is the Spurs could never get him in a room alone without his uncle after the summer of '17 shows he's had some delayed adult development.

He's definitely a puppet for his Uncle. None of the moves he's made makes sense for himself as a person when you think about it. This guy is super introverted but he doesn't like SA because allegedly it's boring despite him never really leaving his house anyways but wants to live in LA. He also wants to get a lot endorsements and attention but wants to be a very private person at the same time. Again that doesn't make sense for a guy who is super introverted. In the end he didn't want to live in LA so he decided to live in San Diego which I can say is a better place for his personality. Still pretty stupid to want to play in a place where you don't even want to live. That's like someone saying they want to play for the Spurs but want to live in Houston. My bold prediction is this clown will sign with the Lakers in a few years once Lebron is gone simply because Uncle Dennis wants the endorsement money that playing with the Lakers can get you. You can tell Uncle Dennis has had his fingerprints all over every move Kawhi has made granted that doesn't make Kawhi innocent but it does show he's very stupid guy while his Uncle is a scumbag. I guess we can call them both "Dumb and Dumber."

I can honestly admit prior to him pulling what he did that I didn't have any fondness for him like I did for the big 3. He came across to me as a dullard but I remember thinking at least this guy is low maintenance and we are probably going to get a good 7-8 years out of him. I learned a lesson never to make assumptions about players. I was surprised to learn about Uncle Dennis' control over him.

Bill_Brasky
10-17-2020, 06:13 AM
The only thing I wonder is how much of this is his doing and how much is it him allowing his Uncle to dictate his actions.

Who cares. He's a grown man. At a certain point, when you choose to surround yourself with piece of shit douchebags like uncle dennis and jeremy castleberry(lol at making the clippers give his friend a job), you're probably just a piece of shit douchebag yourself.

paperboy77
10-17-2020, 09:54 AM
Lue is a softie no way is he going to be able to stand up to Kawhi. Lue is what I call a "yes man".

”but Lue is a great (black) coach”. ~SAS.

Dex
10-17-2020, 10:01 AM
This reminds me of when Kawhi got pissy that he couldn't take his own flashy car to the All-Star game.

For a kid who used to be happy driving his old beat up Tahoe everywhere, he sure became a prima donna real fast. I wonder how much of that is Uncle whispering in his ear.

Dex
10-17-2020, 10:02 AM
According to the report, he was late because he was allowed to live in San Diego. Not sure how that correlates, since he probably used a helicopter to commute.

A lot of people commute for work, and still show up on time. Plan accordingly.

The Truth #6
10-17-2020, 01:40 PM
I think Kawhi is either an autist on the low spectrum or has some socially limiting condition like Asperger. He made the mistake of blindly trusting his Uncle to handle all of his personal affairs. I really do believe if Uncle Dennis told him to jump off a cliff that he would do it.

He might be on the spectrum. Or have a Reactive Attachment Disorder, that’s my deep cut diagnosis.

KobesAchilles
10-17-2020, 01:54 PM
I’m pretty anti-Kawhi after the shit he pulled but this article is so stupid. It’s the same thing when Avery Johnson talked shit and then got his ass kicked out of San Antonio. Like Lue Williams went to a fucking strip joint during Covid Lockdown knowing full well that it would harm his team and still did it. Idgaf what he says about Kawhi. And Bev is about as garbage a point guard as they come. If he didn’t fuck up Westbricks knee I don’t think he would be a starter. He is the all talk type of player. Everyone runs a train on his ass. Also who tf is Harrell? Like I know him just bc he was traded for CP3 but has anyone actually seen him play? I don’t even remember him in the playoffs. Clips will be dangerous if they clean house. They keep these same losers then they will just be second round fodder

hater
10-17-2020, 03:01 PM
I’m pretty anti-Kawhi after the shit he pulled but this article is so stupid. It’s the same thing when Avery Johnson talked shit and then got his ass kicked out of San Antonio. Like Lue Williams went to a fucking strip joint during Covid Lockdown knowing full well that it would harm his team and still did it. Idgaf what he says about Kawhi. And Bev is about as garbage a point guard as they come. If he didn’t fuck up Westbricks knee I don’t think he would be a starter. He is the all talk type of player. Everyone runs a train on his ass. Also who tf is Harrell? Like I know him just bc he was traded for CP3 but has anyone actually seen him play? I don’t even remember him in the playoffs. Clips will be dangerous if they clean house. They keep these same losers then they will just be second round fodder

Kawhi is just an easy target. Cause hes an autistic fuckface.

Im sure Jordan could arrive drunk late and naked to the teams plane and nobody would say shit.

Still. Glad Spurs let him go he definitely does not fit Spurs org standards

KobesAchilles
10-17-2020, 04:31 PM
Kawhi is just an easy target. Cause hes an autistic fuckface.

Im sure Jordan could arrive drunk late and naked to the teams plane and nobody would say shit.

Still. Glad Spurs let him go he definitely does not fit Spurs org standards
I was the only person on Spurstalk who said to let him walk :lol I didn’t want to give him the max. Especially for 60 games a year

Seventyniner
10-17-2020, 04:33 PM
I was the only person on Spurstalk who said to let him walk :lol I didn’t want to give him the max. Especially for 60 games a year

Even for 60 games a year the max is worth it. At least until we found out that he might not be able to make it through a full postseason anymore.

The supermax is a much different story, and Number Two was never going to take anything less than that from the Spurs. As bad as the trade looked at the time (and sometimes still does), it's looking like the Spurs sold at the right time. The alternative was having him bitch out for another year and then leaving anyway.

szkorhetz
10-17-2020, 05:12 PM
Even for 60 games a year the max is worth it. At least until we found out that he might not be able to make it through a full postseason anymore.

The supermax is a much different story, and Number Two was never going to take anything less than that from the Spurs. As bad as the trade looked at the time (and sometimes still does), it's looking like the Spurs sold at the right time. The alternative was having him bitch out for another year and then leaving anyway.
No, they should have traded him the RS deadline before the summer, the rumored offers were much more interesting back then.

KobesAchilles
10-17-2020, 05:13 PM
Even for 60 games a year the max is worth it. At least until we found out that he might not be able to make it through a full postseason anymore.

The supermax is a much different story, and Number Two was never going to take anything less than that from the Spurs. As bad as the trade looked at the time (and sometimes still does), it's looking like the Spurs sold at the right time. The alternative was having him bitch out for another year and then leaving anyway.
Sorry for the mistake. I meant the Super-Max. In my eyes, that is a franchise killer

spurs10
10-17-2020, 06:32 PM
Lue is a softie no way is he going to be able to stand up to Kawhi. Lue is what I call a "yes man". That's not going to go over well with the team either. Athletes, especially millionaires, are going to continue to call out his bullshit I'm thinking. It's locker-room poison.

TDMVPDPOY
10-17-2020, 07:00 PM
even with 60 games a year its worth it, u dont play him on b2bs, u dont play him against scrub teams.. if ur roster without kawhi cant beat scrub teams, that explains more about the players then him

daslicer
10-17-2020, 07:50 PM
I’m pretty anti-Kawhi after the shit he pulled but this article is so stupid. It’s the same thing when Avery Johnson talked shit and then got his ass kicked out of San Antonio. Like Lue Williams went to a fucking strip joint during Covid Lockdown knowing full well that it would harm his team and still did it. Idgaf what he says about Kawhi. And Bev is about as garbage a point guard as they come. If he didn’t fuck up Westbricks knee I don’t think he would be a starter. He is the all talk type of player. Everyone runs a train on his ass. Also who tf is Harrell? Like I know him just bc he was traded for CP3 but has anyone actually seen him play? I don’t even remember him in the playoffs. Clips will be dangerous if they clean house. They keep these same losers then they will just be second round fodder

It's starts from the top with Kawhi's crappy leadership. What made Duncan a great leader was he lead by example and brought his teammates togther. He was always the first person to come in the gym and the last to leave. He played in every game he could play in. Keep in mind Pop didn't start load managing Duncan until Duncan was way past his prime and by then his teammates understood his load managing was legit and due to age. You didn't see Duncan being a deliberate jackass by coming late for team flights just to let his teammates know that they were beneath him. Duncan also didn't isolate himself from his teammates and tried to hardly ever acknowledge their presence in the locker room. These little things matter it allowed for the Spurs to have great chemistry and a winning culture. So when you do the things Kawhi does it's going to alienate guys and you will see guys like Montrez-Bev-Lou do the things they do because in their mind they are thinking why the hell should I bust my ass for this guy when he's being lazy and doesn't respect me.

timtonymanu
10-17-2020, 08:15 PM
Fuck Jeremy Castleberry too. That fat Raymond felton looking fuck sucking off Kawhi's balls for a paycheck.

Rusty
10-17-2020, 09:30 PM
Let's talk about PG13, Kawhi and LA situation. I don't have all of the specifics but here's what I do know from reaching out across the board in the last couple of months on that situation.

1. Kawhi has rubbed a number of his teammates the wrong way. Many questioning his work ethic and reliability. This is not new. This happened in San Antonio, Toronto, and now LA. That said, everyone RESPECTS Leonard. When it matters, he always there and shows up.


2. PG13 has been having issues with teammates going back to Indy. Many think he thinks he's better than what he really is. He's not consistent. He gets too many nicks and while teammates thinks he works hard, they don't see him as a 1A or 2B. They see him as an extremely gifted 2C. That said, many saw Jimmy Butler like this as well and just look when he finally ended up in the perfect situation. PG13 doesn't have the respect of his locker room and hasn't for awhile. Even teams noted, they got better when he gets traded. That said, he's gotten traded for some excellent packages. It's not like he's been traded for potato salad.

3. Both Kawhi and PG13 have asked for a star PG in particular, Chris Paul. The issue is, CP3 salary makes it extremely difficult and it will gut their roster as their assets was gutted by the same team a season earlier. Also, doesn't OKC want that package. The good in the matter is CP3 wants to go to a contender and OKC have granted CP3 that they won't get in the way if they are reasonably compensated. They are also said to be looking at LaMelo Ball and James Wiseman in a larger role than you would normally see for a team without a lottery much less 1st round pick. While LAC has trade capital, there players outside of the two stars, aren't exactly going to bring you back a great deal in return. This is what's going on behind the scenes.

4. Teammates want to run it back but many of said PG is the one that can be moved to get the squad more. Most know trades will be made but most want to stay. As much as Leonard has a part in their lack of chemistry, they don't think he's not added value. This isn't unsual either, Russ Westbrook who is extremely optimistic always thinks his teams have a chance for the title actually went to OKC brass and said this team has reached it's peak with PG. He is always too optimistic and when he said that, that's a red flag. Indy teammates felt like Oladipo and Sabonis was a clear upgrade. Like I am saying, there is red flags around PG. No one is saying it but I don't exactly think Kawhi believes in PG like that either. Obviously no one will because that will kill his trade value.

5. For ANY team that trades for him, buyer beware. Facts are: Hard worker, smart guy, tremendous talent, elite shooting stroke, elite rhythm guy, and a smart and heady defensive player with tremendous tools but doesn't make the best decisions, can't really create for himself when it matters, inconsistent, isn't easy to work with for teammates, and has some communication issues which has been stated by former players on Indy, OKC, and now LAC. Kawhi offers issues as well but everyone knows when he plays, what to expect and they know you can win with him.

So while I don't have all of the specifics, I know this much which is why Paul George being available for this type of package is understandable to me regardless of anything else.

More than anything, I would think LA is offering this to MIN because well, PG13 is an UFA next year and they don't want to lose him and Kawhi for nothing but more importantly they don't want to lose Kawhi AT ALL.



I'm really shocked at the bolded part. This guy came into the league as role player low draft pick and became elite/mvp type player but apparently people are questioning his work ethic.

And :lmao at all George Paul's part

venitian navigator
10-18-2020, 02:08 AM
It's starts from the top with Kawhi's crappy leadership. What made Duncan a great leader was he lead by example and brought his teammates togther. He was always the first person to come in the gym and the last to leave. He played in every game he could play in. Keep in mind Pop didn't start load managing Duncan until Duncan was way past his prime and by then his teammates understood his load managing was legit and due to age. You didn't see Duncan being a deliberate jackass by coming late for team flights just to let his teammates know that they were beneath him. Duncan also didn't isolate himself from his teammates and tried to hardly ever acknowledge their presence in the locker room. These little things matter it allowed for the Spurs to have great chemistry and a winning culture. So when you do the things Kawhi does it's going to alienate guys and you will see guys like Montrez-Bev-Lou do the things they do because in their mind they are thinking why the hell should I bust my ass for this guy when he's being lazy and doesn't respect me.

totally agree

venitian navigator
10-18-2020, 02:41 AM
I'm really shocked at the bolded part. This guy came into the league as role player low draft pick and became elite/mvp type player but apparently people are questioning his work ethic.

And :lmao at all George Paul's part

Work ethic doesn't mean only what you do to improve your game and skills, but also your behavior with your teammates, coach and owners...simply because part of your work in a team game is to make the team (not only yourself) better and able to win it all, and for doing so you need to elevate the game and spirit of your teammates, you need to follow your coach, you have to be a positive push for the people that are paying you.
Leading by example mean this, more than all, also if the way you show your leadership can be different...for sure the Duncan's one was different from the Jordan's one or the James's one.
But in any case you can't avoid that part of the work ethic, nobody can if they want to be the leader of a winning team, nor Jordan nor James...And Kawhi its never exactly been till now a player able and devote to elevate the teammates game (like Duncan was) nor a do it all player as Jordan or James...never reached till now that level of playing. With the Spurs he wasn't the leader, also if for some time he's been the best player. With the Raptors he still wasn't the leader, also if for most of the time he's been the best player.
Duncan was the epithome of the work ethic. Jordan was not only a hell of a player but a very strong motivational teammate (also if in a hard way, but it was a different kind of basketball, for mentality, at the time) while James, also if very much inclined to his legacy, have always been a good teammate leading by example and also able to elevate teammates game.
Kawhi, probably thanks to his uncle, behave like he don't care about his teammates (also if more experienced and successful, see what happened in SA), don't respect his coach (see his behavior with Pop and now with Rivers, also if he was the one making his trade possible) and his goal is to behave like he's the owner and not payed by somebody else ...
I say he (or his uncle) wanted too much and too fast...

EricB
10-19-2020, 08:47 AM
Idk man, no way the spurs let Parker walk unless it was to try and keep Kawhi imo. Plenty of has beens had big roles for pop, Parker would have played more than any of the guards if we kept him


had nothing to do with Kawhi at all. The Spurs had Parker’s back when he Manu and others confronted the shithead when he was gonna show back up.

Kawhitstorm
10-20-2020, 03:09 AM
had nothing to do with Kawhi at all. The Spurs had Parker’s back when he Manu and others confronted the shithead when he was gonna show back up.

LMAO at Porker “confronting” anyone: :lmao

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baseline bum
10-20-2020, 03:01 PM
I’m pretty anti-Kawhi after the shit he pulled but this article is so stupid. It’s the same thing when Avery Johnson talked shit and then got his ass kicked out of San Antonio. Like Lue Williams went to a fucking strip joint during Covid Lockdown knowing full well that it would harm his team and still did it. Idgaf what he says about Kawhi. And Bev is about as garbage a point guard as they come. If he didn’t fuck up Westbricks knee I don’t think he would be a starter. He is the all talk type of player. Everyone runs a train on his ass. Also who tf is Harrell? Like I know him just bc he was traded for CP3 but has anyone actually seen him play? I don’t even remember him in the playoffs. Clips will be dangerous if they clean house. They keep these same losers then they will just be second round fodder

Bev's a legend for that, I'll always be a fan.

SpurPadre
10-20-2020, 07:45 PM
LMAO at Porker “confronting” anyone: :lmao

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c036a6898d3ab6ec8d3fd3cc1732a98d/tenor.gif

Parker doesn't confront teammates but he does confront their wives, tbh.

Philthemage
10-27-2020, 07:48 PM
Yeah I can see him getting stepped all over

ducks
10-27-2020, 09:09 PM
League should not resign him when contract his up or put in his contract how many games he plays or voids his contract