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ElNono
10-24-2020, 09:14 PM
Super hyped for this game, tbh... anybody else anxiously awaiting the release?

baseline bum
10-24-2020, 09:20 PM
Will be waiting in line at the CODEX Store November 19th. And then probably not play it for 8 months. :lol

Reck
10-24-2020, 09:22 PM
You get your copy early or what?

I've been thinking of getting this...but I'm not sure I want to take on another big project. (When I start a game I like to collect everything)

ElNono
10-24-2020, 09:46 PM
No early copy here... just waiting in line like everyone else, tbh...

Probably snag the next gen version too...

ElNono
10-25-2020, 01:30 AM
Also looking forward to Valhalla, tbh

DJR210
10-25-2020, 01:45 AM
Super hyped for this game, tbh... anybody else anxiously awaiting the release?

Both games look dope.. 3070 will hopefully be ordered on 10/29 so I can properly enjoy them both

FrostKing
10-25-2020, 03:52 AM
:toast

TimDunkem
10-25-2020, 11:00 AM
Forget the hype. It'll be a GOOD game, and that's all I need.


And yet I still bought a Dell s2721dgf and 3080 OC for it. :lmao

Joseph Kony
10-25-2020, 04:12 PM
i snagged the limited edition xbone x CP2077 console awhile back, and the game is already registered to it so i'll have it on release day. will see how shitty it looks on console before i decide to just get it on PC. :lol but been waiting on this one for awhile tbh. 2nd most anticipated release of 2020 for me tbh

baseline bum
10-25-2020, 04:40 PM
i snagged the limited edition xbone x CP2077 console awhile back, and the game is already registered to it so i'll have it on release day. will see how shitty it looks on console before i decide to just get it on PC. :lol but been waiting on this one for awhile tbh. 2nd most anticipated release of 2020 for me tbh

Ah so you had Persona 5 Royal at #1 for 2020 too? My #2 for 2020 comes out Wednesday, namely 真・女神転生 III ノクターン HDリマスター for Switch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edvE_ohsH6k

Trainwreck2100
10-25-2020, 07:40 PM
No early copy here... just waiting in line like everyone else, tbh...

Probably snag the next gen version too...

If you do you'll just be wasting money, the next gen upgrade is free

ElNono
10-25-2020, 07:58 PM
If you do you'll just be wasting money, the next gen upgrade is free

Ah nice... just don't know if my PS5 is gonna be here on time.

Xevious
10-25-2020, 11:51 PM
I really want to play this, but it probably won't be for a while. I still haven't bothered to beat Tsushima. And I'll probably wait until I get a PS5.

lefty
10-27-2020, 12:13 PM
:lol

BREAKING: Cyberpunk 2077 has been delayed once again, this time to December 10, 2020. bit.ly/2G3OSRT

Reck
10-27-2020, 12:18 PM
:lol

BREAKING: Cyberpunk 2077 has been delayed once again, this time to December 10, 2020. bit.ly/2G3OSRT

Project cuck doing their best Final Fantasy Square Enix impersonation.

ElNono
10-27-2020, 01:11 PM
goddamnit

baseline bum
10-27-2020, 01:12 PM
ROFL

Joseph Kony
10-27-2020, 07:54 PM
Ah so you had Persona 5 Royal at #1 for 2020 too? My #2 for 2020 comes out Wednesday, namely 真・女神転生 III ノクターン HDリマスター for Switch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edvE_ohsH6k

:lol of course


Naw man, LoU2 was my #1 this year, then CP2077 then FF7R. LoU2 lived up to expectations, FF7R was an abortion.

Pretty disappointed now :lol sucks they pushed it back again but better to make sure its optimized across all platforms and wait a bit longer than release it and have issues i guess. Gives me more time to play Watchdogs Legion i suppose

TimDunkem
10-27-2020, 10:57 PM
It hurts make it stop.

baseline bum
10-27-2020, 10:59 PM
It hurts make it stop.

Just gives you time to play Persona 4 Golden now tbh

Mikeanaro
10-28-2020, 06:08 AM
LOL, fuck them, I´ve pre-ordered the game and Im tired of so many BS.
Gold is gold, so the game was ready and no excuses they even used that hobo Keanu everywhere.
This is the last time I pre-order something from them, FPS is not their game it seems.

LaMarcus Bryant
10-28-2020, 07:38 AM
LOL

As long as they got free nexgen upgrade we good

Reck
10-28-2020, 03:24 PM
I think this game is going to turn out like Watch Dogs.

Looks amazing from the outside, gets delayed for "polishing" purposes, gets released and not only did it looked like shit, the story was boring as shit.

I'm staying away from this one for a long time.

Trainwreck2100
10-28-2020, 06:11 PM
I read a rumor that they were good to go, but then the old gen console versions turned out to be absolutely fucked

baseline bum
10-28-2020, 11:30 PM
I read a rumor that they were good to go, but then the old gen console versions turned out to be absolutely fucked

I have a hard time believing the PC recommended requirements too: i7-4790 + GTX 1060. Wonder if you could get 1080p60 at medium with such a setup. That's nearly the exact cpu I'm running so it would be nice if that really would be enough for high settings though.

Mikeanaro
10-28-2020, 11:30 PM
I read a rumor that they were good to go, but then the old gen console versions turned out to be absolutely fucked
They have been working with the old gen consoles for 6 years, if there is any problem is with the new ones or with that fucking Stadia crap.

FrostKing
12-03-2020, 03:43 AM
https://youtu.be/P99qJGrPNLs

1st trailer from 7 years ago

hater
12-03-2020, 09:17 AM
Looks cool. Is it supposed to be a rip off of Blade Runner?

Im ok with that as long as its good.

Playing a blade runner type game blazed as fuck would be epic

Joseph Kony
12-03-2020, 06:12 PM
so is this actually coming out next week or is it getting delayed the day before release :lol

baseline bum
12-03-2020, 08:44 PM
so is this actually coming out next week or is it getting delayed the day before release :lol

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Reck
12-03-2020, 08:51 PM
1334196025918185482

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Indeed. I read that a bunch of people got a copy of the game early and have been playing it without the day 1 patch because it hasn’t gone live yet.

baseline bum
12-03-2020, 08:54 PM
Indeed. I read that a bunch of people got a copy of the game early and have been playing it without the day 1 patch because it hasn’t gone live yet.

CDPR has had to strike down a bunch of videos from people who got the game early too. Interested to see if my cpu will be enough for this game since it's 6 years old. It has handled RDR2 great though. Although that's the only hard to run game I have played since getting a gpu for my PC in the summer (other games I played on PC since then are Sekiro, Yakuza 0-2, and Persona 4 Golden, none of which stresses the cpu at all).

Joseph Kony
12-03-2020, 08:56 PM
1334196025918185482

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nice. i bought that cyberpunk Xbox One forever ago so it's already installed but i cant play it yet. still trying to decide if i want to just get it on PC instead even though i already own it :lol

baseline bum
12-03-2020, 08:59 PM
nice. i bought that cyberpunk Xbox One forever ago so it's already installed but i cant play it yet. still trying to decide if i want to just get it on PC instead even though i already own it :lol

Just pirate the PC version since you already paid for the game anyways. The game will release on GOG on launch date, and GOG has no DRM, so you don't have to wait for it to be cracked. If you want I'll send you a link to download it for PC as soon as it's posted. As soon as someone can download it from GOG it'll be going up as a torrent and a couple hours later it'll be on direct download sites like 1fichier and mega.co.nz.

Don't you have like a 1070? The game is going to look so much better on that than it will an XBox One X or S.

Cry Havoc
12-05-2020, 02:16 AM
Preordered a couple of months ago on GOG.

AMD r5 3600 with a 1080 should run it just fine.

Joseph Kony
12-05-2020, 03:13 AM
Just pirate the PC version since you already paid for the game anyways. The game will release on GOG on launch date, and GOG has no DRM, so you don't have to wait for it to be cracked. If you want I'll send you a link to download it for PC as soon as it's posted. As soon as someone can download it from GOG it'll be going up as a torrent and a couple hours later it'll be on direct download sites like 1fichier and mega.co.nz.

Don't you have like a 1070? The game is going to look so much better on that than it will an XBox One X or S.

i definitely wouldnt mind a link :tu

baseline bum
12-05-2020, 08:10 AM
i definitely wouldnt mind a link :tu

Alright, I'll PM you in 5 days. What kind of system you rocking? You absolutely have to have Windows 10 for it since it's DirectX 10 only.

baseline bum
12-05-2020, 08:12 AM
Preordered a couple of months ago on GOG.

AMD r5 3600 with a 1080 should run it just fine.

I'm wondering how well my cpu will hold up on it since I'm still rocking a Haswell chip. Recommended spec is an i7-4790 and I'm running a Xeon E3-1231v3, which is virtually the same cpu, just 200 MHz slower. Want to hold off on a cpu upgrade until the rumored $220 Ryzen 5 5600 drops, especially since you can't find a Ryzen 5 5600x in stock anywhere anyways.

Joseph Kony
12-05-2020, 01:30 PM
Alright, I'll PM you in 5 days. What kind of system you rocking? You absolutely have to have Windows 10 for it since it's DirectX 10 only.

yeah windows 10. i have a gtx 1070ti think i should be good :tu

Reck
12-06-2020, 12:08 AM
Dreamcast faggot says this game story is only 25 hours long.

1335323777677348866 (https://twitter.com/dreamcastguy/status/1335323777677348866?s=21)

For a game that short for an RPG, all the delays are now questionable. Early iteration of the game must have been so trash and glitchy they probably had to start from scratch.

Cry Havoc
12-06-2020, 12:28 AM
Dreamcast faggot says this game story is only 25 hours long.

1335323777677348866 (https://twitter.com/dreamcastguy/status/1335323777677348866?s=21)

For a game that short for an RPG, all the delays are now questionable. Early iteration of the game must have been so trash and glitchy they probably had to start from scratch.

That's likely just focusing on the main quest. Witcher 3 was "only" 50 hours long if you only did the primary quests, but 150+ hours if you did the side quests.

Also, there will be at least two long DLCs for Cyberpunk that are both included in the cost of the base game, so even if it's only 30 for the main, the expansions should add another 20 or more, and way more in side quests.

baseline bum
12-06-2020, 12:46 AM
Dreamcast faggot says this game story is only 25 hours long.

1335323777677348866 (https://twitter.com/dreamcastguy/status/1335323777677348866?s=21)

For a game that short for an RPG, all the delays are now questionable. Early iteration of the game must have been so trash and glitchy they probably had to start from scratch.

Damn I'm going to demand a refund from CODEX

baseline bum
12-07-2020, 06:16 PM
From the reviews that came out today definitely sounds like that 25 hour time is from rushing through the main story without doing the optional sidequests. Game looks like it'll have tremendous replay value based on how the world changes based on your decisions. Also sounds buggy as hell with garbage performance, so wondering if I'll have any path to 60 fps on my 1660 Super. Though Witcher 3 was buggy as hell too at launch; I used to constantly crash at launch. But Witcher 3 was pretty well optimized within a month or two if I remember right and just got better. Especially the Blood and Wine DLC.

baseline bum
12-07-2020, 06:31 PM
yeah windows 10. i have a gtx 1070ti think i should be good :tu

Looks like we're going to be playing at 1080p medium

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-performance-preview

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/JmALSs8SnbssJDmyhbwj7h-970-80.png

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uP6tZYGcGvQkw76YLjqoji-970-80.png

Reck
12-07-2020, 06:31 PM
From the reviews that came out today definitely sounds like that 25 hour time is from rushing through the main story without doing the optional sidequests. Game looks like it'll have tremendous replay value based on how the world changes based on your decisions. Also sounds buggy as hell with garbage performance, so wondering if I'll have any path to 60 fps on my 1660 Super. Though Witcher 3 was buggy as hell too at launch; I used to constantly crash at launch. But Witcher 3 was pretty well optimized within a month or two if I remember right and just got better. Especially the Blood and Wine DLC.

YongYea said skillup told him overall it’ll take you 50-60 hours to 100% complete everything. That is still rather on the short end.

I’m leaning to waiting until a second patch to fix the bugs before I think of buying. Sounds like they’re almost game breaking.

baseline bum
12-07-2020, 06:35 PM
YongYea said skillup told him overall it’ll take you 50-60 hours to 100% complete everything. That is still rather on the short end.

I’m leaning to waiting until a second patch to fix the bugs before I think of buying. Sounds like they’re almost game breaking.

I'll be waiting a while too. Mostly because I don't expect to finish RDR2 before 2021 starts. If the performance is that bad on PC right now I expect it to be a total fucking mess on consoles for a while, especially considering CDPR has only let people review the PC version so far.

Joseph Kony
12-07-2020, 07:50 PM
Looks like we're going to be playing at 1080p medium

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-performance-preview

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/JmALSs8SnbssJDmyhbwj7h-970-80.png

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uP6tZYGcGvQkw76YLjqoji-970-80.png

well, shit :lol

NASpurs
12-07-2020, 08:02 PM
Shiiiit... what about my rx580 GTS? It's not even on the list :lol

baseline bum
12-07-2020, 08:19 PM
well, shit :lol


Shiiiit... what about my rx580 GTS? It's not even on the list :lol

It'll probably improve with the Day 1 patch as well as the removal of Denuvo (which is in the review builds sent out but won't be in the retail release). Or maybe I should say it'll hopefully improve. Still not buying their official chart saying GTX 1060 is enough for 1080p60 high though.

Reck
12-07-2020, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7OXsVVcdE&t

Sounds like a situation worse than Batman Arkham Knights Rocksteady had with their PC port. :lol

baseline bum
12-07-2020, 10:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7OXsVVcdE&t

Sounds like a situation worse than Batman Arkham Knights Rocksteady had with their PC port. :lol

Really doubtful. Rocksteady hired a mobile game developer to do the Arkham Knight PC port which is why it was so bad. That Arkham Knight PC port is a special level of failure. It's the entire reason Steam even allows refunds now.

hater
12-08-2020, 01:47 PM
What a shame

Still on my search for Blade Runner 2049 :cry

hater
12-08-2020, 02:33 PM
:lmao stupid faggots are complaining that there are not enough or properly portraied trans characters in the game :lmao

These piece of shit faggots god damn stop politizicing everything

Just for that Im buying myself a copy of cyberpunk


https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1335999947649540102?s=19

hater
12-08-2020, 02:37 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1336004555448922118?s=19

hater
12-08-2020, 02:38 PM
Im really sick of these transvestite fucks tbqh

They remind me of women in the 80s and 90s :lmao

ElNono
12-08-2020, 02:51 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1336004555448922118?s=19

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EosiDJEWEAER2mB?format=jpg&name=small

Reck
12-08-2020, 03:41 PM
Uhhhh

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Joseph Kony
12-08-2020, 08:39 PM
Lol...i hate when people whine about shit like this in games instead of focusing on the fucking story and gameplay. Same shit with LoU2. fuckin incels crying about trannies, fucking trannies crying because they were "misrepresented." people need to learn a game is a fucking game, the point is to escape and play as someone or something that is different from reality. now these people are crying because there arent enough trannies and the tranny billboards are too sexualized? :lol wtf? there is no pleasing anyone these days, everyone is such a whiny ass snowflake

Reck
12-08-2020, 08:51 PM
Lol...i hate when people whine about shit like this in games instead of focusing on the fucking story and gameplay. Same shit with LoU2. fuckin incels crying about trannies, fucking trannies crying because they were "misrepresented." people need to learn a game is a fucking game, the point is to escape and play as someone or something that is different from reality. now these people are crying because there arent enough trannies and the tranny billboards are too sexualized? :lol wtf? there is no pleasing anyone these days, everyone is such a whiny ass snowflake

You fell for Hater's shitty non story. lol

Literally not an issue I have heard outside of that one tweet from Hater.

But I bet CDPR is willing to go with that instead of the real issues this game has going for it at the moment. :lol

Joseph Kony
12-08-2020, 09:35 PM
You fell for Hater's shitty non story. lol

Literally not an issue I have heard outside of that one tweet from Hater.

But I bet CDPR is willing to go with that instead of the real issues this game has going for it at the moment. :lol

Fell for? You sure about that?


Thankfully, your character’s gender is not tied to your choice of genitals. You can create a dude with a vagina or a lady with a penis, that’s no problem. But because of everything else about how the game handles trans identity, this hardly feels like the progressive step it should be. Rather than just letting you pick your pronouns independently of all your other character creation choices, your pronouns are assigned based on your selection of voice: Pick the “feminine” voice and your pronouns are she/her, and vice versa. (There are no nonbinary pronoun options.) As a trans woman with a voice that many would not describe as “feminine,” this direct linking of gender identity to having a voice that sounds “masculine” or “feminine” feels weirdly essentializing.
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/22158019/cyberpunk-2077-review-cd-projekt-red-pc-ps4-xbox-one-stadia


I can speak best to Cyberpunk’s already controversial use of trans people. As seen in pre-release information, a lot of trans content is consigned to in-game ads, such as the soft drink ad (https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-art-criticized-as-transphobic-is-meant-to-reflect-corporate-exploitation-says-the-artist/) featuring a female-appearing character with a giant cock bulging from her leotard. The game has yet to indicate if there are any other trans men in the world besides my version of V; I suspect I’m the only one, and I’m torn between relief and hoping to be proven wrong. I have encountered at least one other trans character: at one point I happened upon a dressing room conversation between a woman who identified herself as cis and a character who had a traditionally male appearance but a feminine voice, who bemoaned theatrically, “I’m a woman; that demands sacrifice.” Her companion replied, “See, I’ve always been a woman,” angering the trans character. “Oh, so this is what fucking sororal solidarity looks like now?” she snapped. Her companion replied, “Welcome to real life, sister.” As a trans person, this was a complicated, weird moment to overhear. The conversation comes after a key story scene, in an area you have to pass through to continue the quest; you could easily walk by it, but it’s hard to miss. I’m not sure why the developers seemed to want me to see it. On the one hand, I’ve heard versions of this conversation play out between cis and trans women in my real life, and had versions of it myself as a trans man with cis men. On the other hand, I could easily see the trans character’s appearance and voice being played for laughs. Of course, there was no option to rush up to the trans woman and say “I’m trans, too!” Both characters fell silent and didn’t have any more dialogue.
https://kotaku.com/30-hours-with-cyberpunk-2077-brings-mixed-feelings-1845824151


Cyberpunk 2077's transphobia becomes apparent as soon as players enter the character creation menu. The game sports an incredibly detailed and intuitive character creator, where players can manipulate and control various aspects of their characters' appearance -- including the shapes and sizes of their genitals. Players can even, if they choose, forego the option to include genitals at all. In and of itself, this isn't necessarily problematic or transphobic, especially because genitals don't seem to affect gender options.
At first, many trans players were happy with the idea that gender would not be determined by the character's genitals. However, that possible excitement turned to disbelief when gamers realized their character's gender and pronouns are not determined by genitals, but rather by voice (https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-voice-gender-pronouns). Only deep-voiced characters can be identified as male, while higher-pitched characters are identified as female, which purports the harmful idea that people's genders can be identified by certain traits
https://www.cbr.com/cyberpunk-2077-transphobia/


literally the first three reviews i found online :lol seems like the whole trans thing is pretty pervasive in the reviews tbh

Reck
12-08-2020, 10:04 PM
Fell for? You sure about that?


https://www.polygon.com/reviews/22158019/cyberpunk-2077-review-cd-projekt-red-pc-ps4-xbox-one-stadia


https://kotaku.com/30-hours-with-cyberpunk-2077-brings-mixed-feelings-1845824151


https://www.cbr.com/cyberpunk-2077-transphobia/


literally the first three reviews i found online :lol seems like the whole trans thing is pretty pervasive in the reviews tbh

https://www.polygon.com/2020/11/9/21556708/watch-dogs-legion-queer-identity
https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-amazing-friends-firestar-iceman-polyamorous/

Whenever I see sjw like these I always like to dig deeper to see if there is any bias. And sure enough, there is always some with these fuckstics.

That said, Kotaku's review seems to have the most merits. That whole penis size or giving yourself a vagine or whatever is redundant af.

ElNono
12-08-2020, 10:55 PM
You fell for Hater's shitty non story. lol

Literally not an issue I have heard outside of that one tweet from Hater.

But I bet CDPR is willing to go with that instead of the real issues this game has going for it at the moment. :lol

uh? Have you been to Resetera?

Reck
12-09-2020, 12:25 AM
uh? Have you been to Resetera?

Didn’t even know that was a site, tbh.

I troll gamefaqs from time to time. Guys are fawning over this game cuz project red.

I’m dying to play this game myself but will wait for the bugs to get worked out.

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 12:28 AM
Didn’t even know that was a site, tbh.

I troll gamefaqs from time to time. Guys are fawning over this game cuz project red.

I’m dying to play this game myself but will wait for the bugs to get worked out.

What are you playing now and until all the good new shit comes out next spring? I can't fucking wait for Nier Replicant on Steam.

Reck
12-09-2020, 12:34 AM
What are you playing now and until all the good new shit comes out next spring? I can't fucking wait for Nier Replicant on Steam.

I keep saying I’m starting Witcher 3 but always end up playing something else. :lol

I think it’s just the massive overtaking that’s keeping me from going in. I’m playing a super light fun game right now, Runner 3.

ElNono
12-09-2020, 01:17 AM
Didn’t even know that was a site, tbh.

I troll gamefaqs from time to time. Guys are fawning over this game cuz project red.

I’m dying to play this game myself but will wait for the bugs to get worked out.

I'll probably nab it day 1. I'm wrapping AC Valhalla right now.

hater
12-09-2020, 08:28 AM
Fell for? You sure about that?


https://www.polygon.com/reviews/22158019/cyberpunk-2077-review-cd-projekt-red-pc-ps4-xbox-one-stadia


https://kotaku.com/30-hours-with-cyberpunk-2077-brings-mixed-feelings-1845824151


https://www.cbr.com/cyberpunk-2077-transphobia/


literally the first three reviews i found online :lol seems like the whole trans thing is pretty pervasive in the reviews tbh

:lmao wreck

Reck
12-09-2020, 03:34 PM
:lmao wreck

It's a made up issue no one is taking seriously other than random twitter trannies.

:lol You following sjw on twitter

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 04:10 PM
Are there full frontal sex scenes in the game? If so I'm definitely creating a pre-op character.

Reck
12-09-2020, 04:29 PM
Are there full frontal sex scenes in the game? If so I'm definitely creating a pre-op character.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJKeBbk-9YA&feature=emb_title

:lol Deep discount material.

Half this review is about the problems he's had with glitches. They're finally able to show them too.

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 04:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJKeBbk-9YA&feature=emb_title

:lol Deep discount material.

Half this review is about the problems he's had with glitches. They're finally able to show them too.

No offense, but I'm not watching a 53 minute review of a game. :lol

Reck
12-09-2020, 05:05 PM
No offense, but I'm not watching a 53 minute review of a game. :lol

:lol Fair enough, here's a digestible 4 minute one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNgPtzTpgM&feature=emb_title

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 06:48 PM
:lol Fair enough, here's a digestible 4 minute one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNgPtzTpgM&feature=emb_title

Pretty impressive they made an N64 port

Reck
12-09-2020, 06:49 PM
Pretty impressive they made an N64 port

:lol

I question if that guy didn't put all settings on low and made it look worse. If this is completely legit :lol

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 07:19 PM
:lol

I question if that guy didn't put all settings on low and made it look worse. If this is completely legit :lol

You can do that kind of stuff in most PC games by screwing around with config files.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJ330NGjCU

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 11:07 PM
Ugh I'm watching a stream where a guy is getting 45-50 fps on RTX 2060 at 1080p ultra with no RT.

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 11:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mRQItBw.png

baseline bum
12-09-2020, 11:35 PM
Fuck, I was watching a feed with a guy running a Ryzen 3 3100 + GTX 1650 Super and even at 720p low his 4C/8T cpu wasn't enough to get more than 30-40 fps when driving. My 4C/8T Xeon E3-1231v3 has no chance then of this running 1080p60 considering the R3 3100 is nearly 40% better in Cinebench. Might as well just wait and play this on PS5

NASpurs
12-10-2020, 12:02 AM
I feel like pirating it just to see if I can run it otherwise I ain't spending my money on this :lol

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 12:43 AM
I feel like pirating it just to see if I can run it otherwise I ain't spending my money on this :lol

Since the PC performance looks so shit I may just buy this on PS5 later on instead of playing a pirated version. :lol

ElNono
12-10-2020, 01:25 AM
Just read they won't have a PS5 version for a while. You can play the PS4 version on PS5 using back compat, but that sucks

TimDunkem
12-10-2020, 01:30 AM
Graphical glitches and some quest bugs here and there. AI issues at times. Other than that it, looks awesome, and is fun as hell, tbh. I'm about 5 hours in and have barely scratched the surface.

chunticakes
12-10-2020, 02:41 PM
Graphical glitches and some quest bugs here and there. AI issues at times. Other than that it, looks awesome, and is fun as hell, tbh. I'm about 5 hours in and have barely scratched the surface.

Is it worth a buy right now? I have a PS4 Pro, might ask my girlfriend to get it for me for Christmas.

TimDunkem
12-10-2020, 02:58 PM
Is it worth a buy right now? I have a PS4 Pro, might ask my girlfriend to get it for me for Christmas.

I have the PC version so I don't know the state of the PS4 version. If you're easily annoyed with bugs then I'd say maybe wait a bit. Personally, they haven't really bothered me as I haven't encountered anything that couldn't be fixed with loading the last save file.

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 03:29 PM
Is it worth a buy right now? I have a PS4 Pro, might ask my girlfriend to get it for me for Christmas.

As soon as Digital Foundry posts their console breakdowns I'll post it here. They'll probably have one in the next couple of days I'd guess.

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 04:21 PM
Not looking good for this on PS4 nor XBox One, chunticakes. Can't see buying this game on a previous gen console (god it sounds weird calling PS4 prev gen :lol)

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-12-10-cyberpunk-2077-is-super-rough-on-ps4-and-xbox-one-and-the-memes-have-already-begun

Cyberpunk 2077 is a mess on PS4 and Xbox One - and the memes have already begun
No resolution in sight.
News by Wesley Yin-Poole, Deputy Editor Updated on 10 December 2020

Cyberpunk 2077 launched at midnight last night, and now the console versions are out in the wild we're getting our first proper look at the game running on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Early impressions are, unfortunately, not great.

I've been playing the PS4 version of CD Projekt's sci-fi epic and can report poor performance, including low framerate and texture pop-in when the screen is busy. Even when it's not, there is on occasion a low-res blur to the visuals. And I've encountered multiple characters locked in a T-pose, frozen in place or glitched into an object. You can still talk to these NPCs, but their mouths do not move.

I've had a chat with Digital Foundry's Tom Morgan, who provided me with some screenshots of Cyberpunk 2077 running on a base PS4 alongside some analysis:

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According to Morgan, Cyberpunk 2077 on PS4 looks very blurry, running between 720p and 900p resolution, and the framerate for any driving around the big city areas is constantly at around 20. While some indoor battles run well at 30fps, they can drop to 25fps. Framerate drops are one thing, but there's also hitching - big hiccups in the action where a new object or texture needs to load in. This can make it a challenge to shoot or drive.

Running the game on PlayStation 5 via backwards compatibility does improve matters to a degree - certainly the loading is faster, and the framerate is unlocked to 60fps - but the glitches, including the T-posing NPCs, remain.

It turns out that Cyberpunk 2077 on PS5 does not have the "quality mode" that is available on Xbox Series X. That is to say, the game on PS5 runs in "performance mode" by default. On Xbox Series X you can switch between the two. Quality mode shoots for a high resolution, something approaching 4K and 30 frames per second, whereas performance mode aims for a smooth experience. It's worth noting the Xbox Series S does not have this toggle between modes, either.

Digital Foundry's scientific analysis is of course inbound, but what is clear at this early stage is there is a significant divide between the PC version of Cyberpunk 2077 and the console versions.

And even just hours after release, the Cyberpunk 2077 console memes have begun.

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Clearly, CD Projekt has plenty of work to do getting the console version of Cyberpunk 2077 up to scratch. In a tweet, the developer said: "The journey has just begun and we are hard at work on the upcoming fixes and updates to the game."

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Meanwhile, playing Cyberpunk 2077 on PC with a beefy rig feels like the best option - for now.

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 04:24 PM
This game looks like it will forever be way too much for PS4 or XB1 to run at any kind of acceptable framerate. Control is still a mess on PS4 / XB1 and this has a far more complex game world.

Reck
12-10-2020, 04:27 PM
:lol welp

Im still rocking the original PS4 and I have no incentive to buy a pro at this point. If I’m buying another console it’ll be a PS5 obviously.

Xevious
12-10-2020, 04:35 PM
Yeah this is a pass for me. Whenever a proper next gen version gets released and I get around to buying a PS5, then I'll give it a go.

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 04:41 PM
chunticakes, here is the Digital Foundry video I was expecting for PS4. Haven't watched it yet though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pHpQqhmR4

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 04:47 PM
Ouch, Digital Foundry said playing Cyberpunk on a PS4 was like playing Switch ports of other modern games, like you smeared the screen with vaseline. :lmao

TimDunkem
12-10-2020, 05:03 PM
Poor console bastards. :lol

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 05:17 PM
Poor console bastards. :lol

LOL I'm in the 45 fps plebe race too since my cpu is old AF.

Reck
12-10-2020, 05:20 PM
Poor console bastards. :lol

You laugh now but this game will flop majorly without them. Game developers cant depend on ultra high end computers to carry them.

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 05:23 PM
You laugh now but this game will flop majorly without them. Game developers cant depend on ultra high end computers to carry them.

They really should have delayed the game until more people had PS5 and Series X/S in hand. Had no idea the performance would be this level of a shitshow.

TimDunkem
12-10-2020, 05:42 PM
Is this what it feels like to be a 1%er?

Fuk y'all! I got mine!!

Reck
12-10-2020, 07:21 PM
chunticakes (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20382), here is the Digital Foundry video I was expecting for PS4. Haven't watched it yet though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pHpQqhmR4

Just got around to watching this.

:lol They had fun shitting on Cyberpunk.

:lol 15fps

chunticakes
12-10-2020, 09:32 PM
Yeah I'm going to wait for the PS5 version, tbh :lol

Thanks guys. :toast

baseline bum
12-10-2020, 09:41 PM
Yeah this is a pass for me. Whenever a proper next gen version gets released and I get around to buying a PS5, then I'll give it a go.

PS5 should be able to play it 1080p60, maybe even 1440p60, if you choose performance mode (which will of course turn off raytracing).

EDIT: Oops, meant a proper next gen PS5 version like you said

Leetonidas
12-10-2020, 10:19 PM
:tu :tu :tu

ElNono
12-11-2020, 01:35 AM
PS5 should be able to play it 1080p60, maybe even 1440p60, if you choose performance mode (which will of course turn off raytracing).

EDIT: Oops, meant a proper next gen PS5 version like you said

It actually runs pretty good on BC, and it loads fast... but yeah, missing a lot of quality, tbh

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 01:51 AM
It actually runs pretty good on BC, and it loads fast... but yeah, missing a lot of quality, tbh

Man, didn't realize this game would rape the cpu so much. I think we can officially proclaim 4C/8T cpus dead for gaming.

RIP Quadcores
11/02/2006 - 12/10/2020

Reck
12-11-2020, 01:54 AM
Man, didn't realize this game would rape the cpu so much. I think we can officially proclaim 4C/8T cpus dead for gaming.

RIP Quadcores
11/02/2006 - 12/10/2020

Well that's an insane run then.

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 02:00 AM
Well that's an insane run then.

Well, the Kentsfield 4C/4T quadcores I was referring to were $1000 when they came out in 2006 and they were pretty slow by around 2013-14 or so. But even the top 4C/8T quadcores of today like the Ryzen 3 3300 can't handle Cyberpunk at 60 fps.

Probably the longest run good gaming cpu of all time was the i7-2600k that came out in January 2011 and was basically good until now tem years later.

FrostKing
12-11-2020, 02:33 AM
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ElNono
12-11-2020, 02:45 AM
Well, the Kentsfield 4C/4T quadcores I was referring to were $1000 when they came out in 2006 and they were pretty slow by around 2013-14 or so. But even the top 4C/8T quadcores of today like the Ryzen 3 3300 can't handle Cyberpunk at 60 fps.

Probably the longest run good gaming cpu of all time was the i7-2600k that came out in January 2011 and was basically good until now tem years later.

I went from a i5 Ivy Bridge to a pretty monster i9 3-4 years ago, tbh... so it's been a while since I've been spoiled.

Honestly, considering CPUs used to last for 2 years or so, quad cores had a good run...

hater
12-11-2020, 09:09 AM
Man, didn't realize this game would rape the cpu so much. I think we can officially proclaim 4C/8T cpus dead for gaming.

RIP Quadcores
11/02/2006 - 12/10/2020

Lol this game doesnt sound good enough to be remembered 5 years from now. Settle down ma nig

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 01:20 PM
Yeah I'm going to wait for the PS5 version, tbh :lol

Thanks guys. :toast

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Reck
12-11-2020, 04:45 PM
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CDPR Should hand these out for free for poorstation owners, tbh.

This is beyond shameful. Even then I "might" play it.

ElNono
12-11-2020, 04:48 PM
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Joseph Kony
12-11-2020, 06:24 PM
enjoying it so far but already have experienced a whole host of graphical bugs and issues in only 3 hours of gameplay :lol

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 06:39 PM
Lol this game doesnt sound good enough to be remembered 5 years from now. Settle down ma nig

I think it's reasonable to use this as a bellweather for next gen gaming and with the consoles now sporting pretty strong Ryzen 7 3700 level 8C/16T cpus I feared 4C/8T was done for in running games at 60 fps the same way 4C/4T was a year or two ago. This is the first truly modern next gen game and not just a game written for the last gen consoles with better textures slapped on it for PC / next gen consoles.

Oh well, time to join the 30 fps peasant race until I decide to do a cpu upgrade. At least I'm not running this at 15 fps like PS4. :lol

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 06:42 PM
enjoying it so far but already have experienced a whole host of graphical bugs and issues in only 3 hours of gameplay :lol

How is the performance? Like what 40-45 fps when driving and walking in populated areas of the city if you're playing at high?

ElNono
12-11-2020, 06:48 PM
enjoying it so far but already have experienced a whole host of graphical bugs and issues in only 3 hours of gameplay :lol

Just updated to 1.04... looks like the update just came out

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 06:50 PM
Just updated to 1.04... looks like the update just came out

Does that update put textures on the polygons on PS4?

ElNono
12-11-2020, 06:51 PM
Does that update put textures on the polygons on PS4?

hell no... mostly quests updates... I'm playing on PS5 though, in BC mode, and it's not too bad...

Reck
12-11-2020, 06:52 PM
Does that update put textures on the polygons on PS4?

The first patch is for game stability. It doesn't really fix the main issues the game is having right now.

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 07:06 PM
hell no... mostly quests updates... I'm playing on PS5 though, in BC mode, and it's not too bad...

Does it actually run 60 fps or it a jump around sometimes 40 fps sometimes 60 fps like for instance unlocked framerate modes usually were on PS4 Pro? I would think it has the cpu and gpu to be pretty steady 60 fps, especially with how cut down the game looks to be on console, but still wondering. Doubt I'll find a PS5 in stock any time in the next 4 months or so, so will prob just play it at 30 fps on PC after RDR2.

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 07:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYLOjW6fYZk

Joseph Kony
12-11-2020, 07:33 PM
Just updated to 1.04... looks like the update just came out

:tu just saw that, bout to check it out

Joseph Kony
12-11-2020, 07:35 PM
How is the performance? Like what 40-45 fps when driving and walking in populated areas of the city if you're playing at high?

Yup, spot on pretty much. but i haven't done too much exploring so i havent gotten to any real dense areas yet. but i'll get plenty of time in this weekend to find out

baseline bum
12-11-2020, 07:56 PM
Yup, spot on pretty much. but i haven't done too much exploring so i havent gotten to any real dense areas yet. but i'll get plenty of time in this weekend to find out

This area is supposed to be about the hardest to run:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5xqcuYbZEc

ElNono
12-11-2020, 08:37 PM
Does it actually run 60 fps or it a jump around sometimes 40 fps sometimes 60 fps like for instance unlocked framerate modes usually were on PS4 Pro? I would think it has the cpu and gpu to be pretty steady 60 fps, especially with how cut down the game looks to be on console, but still wondering. Doubt I'll find a PS5 in stock any time in the next 4 months or so, so will prob just play it at 30 fps on PC after RDR2.

Feels pretty smooth here, but I haven't gotten in any major firefights yet

baseline bum
12-12-2020, 12:15 PM
Game looks pretty decent on PS5 and Series X.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aZocGxy3I

Joseph Kony
12-12-2020, 01:35 PM
fuckin glitches man. got to a point where the game wouldnt progress because it wouldnt let me out of a helicopter until i killed all enemies, which i did, so i just kept circling around with nothing happening. :pctoss

TimDunkem
12-12-2020, 02:35 PM
Yeah bugs during quests sucks but it usually has had to do with AI pathfiding in my playthrough so far. Otherwise, still pretty damn great. Too bad it came out in this state for so many because it's really distracting from this awesome universe CDPR has fleshed out.

ElNono
12-12-2020, 03:52 PM
fuckin glitches man. got to a point where the game wouldnt progress because it wouldnt let me out of a helicopter until i killed all enemies, which i did, so i just kept circling around with nothing happening. :pctoss

This shit is crashing for me every 30 mins... smh

redzero
12-13-2020, 11:16 AM
I'm going to see if my 2015 pc can handle it.

baseline bum
12-13-2020, 11:46 AM
I'm going to see if my 2015 pc can handle it.

If your cpu is a quadcore you're going to have tons of drops into the 30s and framerates in the cities steadily in the 40s. This thing absolutely hammers cpus. From what I have seen you need around Ryzen 5 3600 or better to get 60 fps at medium settings or better. GTX 1660 Ti is supposed to be about the minimum gpu to get 60 fps in tougher sections of the game at medium settings. Since I'm running a 2014 4C/8T chip and a 1660 Super I'll probably try to play at high with a 30 fps lock.

FrostKing
12-13-2020, 05:30 PM
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baseline bum
12-13-2020, 05:57 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2020/12/13/sony-is-offering-cyberpunk-2077-refunds-for-ps4-and-ps5-after-gamers-cry-foul
Sony Reportedly Offering ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Refunds For PS4 And PS5 After Gamers Cry Foul
By Erik Kain

You know things are bad when a CD Projekt RED game is getting review-bombed on Metacritic.

Cyberpunk 2077 is currently rocking a 2.7 on PS4 and a 3.5 on Xbox One, and this is a developer who is much-loved and greatly respected by gamers.

On PC, where the game is truly meant to be played and where it really does shine, a litany of bugs and other issues still has that number down at 6.7/10—quite a lot lower than the critic’s consensus of 90/100.

On base PS4, the game barely scrapes by at 720p and (at times) 15 frames-per-second. This is, honestly, entirely unacceptable. The game’s defenders will tell you that of course it runs poorly on such old hardware. But then why release it at all on such old hardware?

Part of the issue is that Sony and Microsoft require games released on PS4 or Xbox One to play on all versions of those consoles. You can’t just release a PS4 Pro game that doesn’t play on PS4 vanilla. Same for Xbox One X and Xbox One (and S).

The expectation is that a game released on PS4 will look and play better on PS4 Pro, where it could theoretically upscale to 4k or run at 60fps, but that same game will still look and play like a PS4 game on a base PS4. This is decidedly not the case with Cyberpunk 2077. Footage I’ve seen of the game playing on a base PS4 is ghastly, like something from early PS3 days (and that’s generous).

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You may want to defend this if you’re an unrepentant CDPR fanboy, but you shouldn’t. It’s proof-positive that the company should simply have waited and not released the game on last-gen consoles at all (or delayed said release until the game actually worked on them). It’s atrocious at best, and a betrayal of gamer trust at worst.

Now gamers are reporting that Sony is offering up refunds on PS4 and PS5—something that is not by any means guaranteed on that platform. Sony has no set return policy, and it’s only under somewhat extreme circumstances that this sort of thing happens.

It still isn’t a guarantee, of course. You’ll want to delete the game from your system, make sure you haven’t played too much of it before asking for a refund, and—when speaking to a Sony rep—be polite and make your case calmly. Even then you might be denied a refund. Persistence pays off--sometimes.

You can also get refunds on Steam if you haven’t played more than two hours of the game and via Xbox where it sounds like refunds are fairly easy to come by.

It’s really a shame about the state of this game on console, but it really ought to have been a next-gen only game to begin with. Right now, it plays better on Stadia than on any console and, well, really should be played on a high-end gaming PC (or GeForce Now).

Reck
12-13-2020, 07:42 PM
^Already said as much.

Give it for free or refund time. I don’t know why SONY has that policy, it needs to change.

It’s the reason why I don’t pre order games digitally at all. Shit, I don’t pre order games at all but it’s worse when the place you’re getting stuff from doesn’t do refunds.

baseline bum
12-13-2020, 07:48 PM
^Already said as much.

Give it for free or refund time. I don’t know why SONY has that policy, it needs to change.

It’s the reason why I don’t pre order games digitally at all. Shit, I don’t pre order games at all but it’s worse when the place you’re getting stuff from doesn’t do refunds.

Yeah I have only preordered three games: Horizon Zero Dawn and RDR2 because they got nothing but glowing early reviews and Persona 5 Royal because I knew the game was already great in Japan.

ElNono
12-13-2020, 07:48 PM
It's just disgraceful and deceptive. This was the PS4 trailer from E3 last year:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAA405YVP64

They also over-relied on dynamic resolution. You can use it to go from 1440p or even 1080p to 4k relatively well, but once you drop below 1080p, it gets too blurry.

And for some reason the game appears to be a CPU hog. Base PS4s really struggle with that.

baseline bum
12-13-2020, 08:25 PM
And for some reason the game appears to be a CPU hog. Base PS4s really struggle with that.

You don't think maybe it's the NPC count? I remember that being a huge problem with AC Unity, though Unity had way more NPC. Still, Cyberpunk has a lot. When the game kills 4C/8T desktop cpus you know it was going to absolutely rape the crap cpus in the last gen consoles.

NASpurs
12-13-2020, 08:57 PM
I was getting 30 FPS (never below) on 1080P Ultra and 45-50 on High... and that’s all I wanted to know and deleted the game. :lol

ElNono
12-13-2020, 09:51 PM
You don't think maybe it's the NPC count? I remember that being a huge problem with AC Unity, though Unity had way more NPC. Still, Cyberpunk has a lot. When the game kills 4C/8T desktop cpus you know it was going to absolutely rape the crap cpus in the last gen consoles.

Could be but not the AI though, there's something with the graphics, because I don't see as many characters in the city here as they showed on the demo. Graphics scale with the CPU power, maybe they're doing skinning on the CPU or something stupid like that.

They also fucked up the temporal reprojection, I can see grainy artifacts (like ghosting) when certain models move, especially against light. That's typical of not calculating motion vectors right.

I mean, after Ghost of Tsushima and TLOU2, there's no way they can't ship anything better looking. And I know at least TLOU2 used motion matching for character animations which is more expensive than what these guys are using, so I don't know where they're burning cycles here.

baseline bum
12-13-2020, 09:58 PM
Could be but not the AI though, there's something with the graphics, because I don't see as many characters in the city here as they showed on the demo. Graphics scale with the CPU power, maybe they're doing skinning on the CPU or something stupid like that.

They also fucked up the temporal reprojection, I can see grainy artifacts (like ghosting) when certain models move, especially against light. That's typical of not calculating motion vectors right.

I mean, after Ghost of Tsushima and TLOU2, there's no way they can't ship anything better looking. And I know at least TLOU2 used motion matching for character animations which is more expensive than what these guys are using, so I don't know where they're burning cycles here.

Do you think this is fixable?

ElNono
12-13-2020, 11:19 PM
Do you think this is fixable?

Most of it should be.

baseline bum
12-14-2020, 09:51 AM
LOL apparently you can find Kojima in clubs in the game.

baseline bum
12-14-2020, 12:16 PM
This really should have been delayed until 2021. All they had to do was say COVID fucked them over and that would have bought them another year.

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Xevious
12-14-2020, 02:31 PM
^Already said as much.

Give it for free or refund time. I don’t know why SONY has that policy, it needs to change.

It’s the reason why I don’t pre order games digitally at all. Shit, I don’t pre order games at all but it’s worse when the place you’re getting stuff from doesn’t do refunds.
The entire idea behind preordering games is completely outdated. Nobody needs to reserve their copy of something digital. It's not even necessary for physical copies anymore.

Reck
12-14-2020, 04:45 PM
This really should have been delayed until 2021. All they had to do was say COVID fucked them over and that would have bought them another year.

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Naughty Dog tried this and it resulted on a major leak. :lol

Still would be the right thing for it. This game is downright unplayable unless you're in the master race.

Reck
12-14-2020, 04:51 PM
The entire idea behind preordering games is completely outdated. Nobody needs to reserve their copy of something digital. It's not even necessary for physical copies anymore.

I have felt that way for years. Even when pre ordering was at it's peak.

I guess I'm just old school. I'm the type who likes to personally go to places to get what I'm after. I have always managed to get a triple A game on the same day it releases or as is sometimes the case, days before in fact.

redzero
12-15-2020, 12:24 AM
So, what the fuck was the point of that opening? I started as Corp V, and I thought it would play a bigger role in the plot, but apparently not. What a letdown. I would rather it have been done like Mass Effect, where there's a paragraph on Sheperd's origins.

diego
12-15-2020, 12:55 AM
damn only read this last page, expecting glowing praise and crazy anecdotes only for disaster :lol

so it sounds like the i5-9500/980 rig im building will barely be able to handle high settings... yeah ill wait for a patch before getting around to this one.

in any case Nono, just about every game abuses cinematics in the marketing, this will hardly be the first or worst to do it...

redzero
12-15-2020, 01:37 AM
Is there any interesting (outside of screwing) NPC interaction, because all I can do is talk, and if I fire my gun, they just crouch and do nothing.

baseline bum
12-15-2020, 01:45 AM
damn only read this last page, expecting glowing praise and crazy anecdotes only for disaster :lol

so it sounds like the i5-9500/980 rig im building will barely be able to handle high settings... yeah ill wait for a patch before getting around to this one.

in any case Nono, just about every game abuses cinematics in the marketing, this will hardly be the first or worst to do it...

Right now a 980 probably won't be able to pull off 1080p30 at high. Devs were full of shit calling the GTX 1060 the recommended spec for 1080p high. Definitely wait for a patch. I know I will with the hope that my 4C/8T Haswell Xeon will have a chance running it without a bunch of stutter, as I'm not too excited at the thought of buying a new cpu + board + DDR4 right before DDR5 platforms are coming.

ElNono
12-15-2020, 08:39 AM
in any case Nono, just about every game abuses cinematics in the marketing, this will hardly be the first or worst to do it...

Well, sure, but the problem with this game is that even the cinematics are done realtime with the game engine, so the cinematics themselves don't look anything like what was shown (for PS4 at least)... lol

redzero
12-15-2020, 10:09 AM
Performance is less concerning to me right now than the overall buggies of the game, and it's not that buggy so far.

baseline bum
12-15-2020, 11:27 AM
Even IGN shits all over the console ports, and they'll give anything a 7/10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpoTjUz1BY

redzero
12-15-2020, 07:47 PM
lol never mind. My computer can't run this for sh.it. Once I actually got into the open world, I started getting blocky textures and FPS drops. It's not nearly as bad as console, but I will wait until I upgrade to play this.

baseline bum
12-15-2020, 08:36 PM
lol never mind. My computer can't run this for sh.it. Once I actually got into the open world, I started getting blocky textures and FPS drops. It's not nearly as bad as console, but I will wait until I upgrade to play this.

What hardware and settings?

Reck
12-17-2020, 09:18 PM
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What a clusterfuck. PR nightmare, though well deserved. Fuck these chumps for putting out a game in this sorry state.

Joseph Kony
12-17-2020, 09:51 PM
i'm glad I have a decent PC because of a couple minor glitches and a couple crashes i havent had many issues in about 30 hours of gameplay now. lol console users

spurraider21
12-17-2020, 10:37 PM
are the problems just on PS4 and Xbox one or also on the new consoles?

baseline bum
12-17-2020, 11:08 PM
are the problems just on PS4 and Xbox one or also on the new consoles?

Nono seems to think it's ok on PS5. But PS5 running a PS4 Pro game at 60 fps is hardly impressive given the ridiculous difference in power between a PS5 and a PS4. For instance, PS5 uses something that would have been considered a relatively highend PC gaming cpu until a few months ago, not absolute top of the line, but not too far below it either, and it's still an upper midrange gaming cpu. While PS4 Pro uses a crap mobile cpu from 2013. PC gaming cpus from 2013 are pretty garbage in 2020, even the higher end shit like the i7-3770k ($300) and the i7-4930k ($600) can struggle to hit 60 fps in some games nowadays. And the PS4 / PS4 Pro cpu that came out in 2013 was complete dogshit compared to those 2013 PC cpus.

ElNono
12-18-2020, 01:20 AM
Sony is giving full refunds for the game if you bought it on the PSN Store and has delisted the game there. If you already own the game, you get to keep it and get the patches.

I finished the game 2 days ago on my PS5, and it was good, but can be a lot better. Looks like there’s multiple endings too, and a shit ton of side quests that are not small by any means, so I’ll probably replay it once I’m back from vacay.

The game did crash every couple of hours though, smells like a memory leak.

This title looks rushed. It’s a big game, and I suppose they were super aggressive with deadlines, but honestly we wouldn’t ship such a high profile title in that state, tbh

ElNono
12-18-2020, 01:24 AM
Nono seems to think it's ok on PS5. But PS5 running a PS4 Pro game at 60 fps is hardly impressive given the ridiculous difference in power between a PS5 and a PS4. For instance, PS5 uses something that would have been considered a relatively highend PC gaming cpu until a few months ago, not absolute top of the line, but not too far below it either, and it's still an upper midrange gaming cpu. While PS4 Pro uses a crap mobile cpu from 2013. PC gaming cpus from 2013 are pretty garbage in 2020, even the higher end shit like the i7-3770k ($300) and the i7-4930k ($600) can struggle to hit 60 fps in some games nowadays. And the PS4 / PS4 Pro cpu that came out in 2013 was complete dogshit compared to those 2013 PC cpus.

I think the huge difference on the PS5 running this game is the streaming. Obviously they’re not using PS5 APIs, which means they can make it even faster and nicer looking on PS5, but just having the SSD there to stream in high LOD models and textures quickly enough is probably the difference maker. It’s hard to explain how much faster the SSD on a PS5 is compared to the PS4 HDD. It maxes out at 5.5GB/sec (actual speed for uncompressed assets, faster if compressed with the hardware compressor), which is beastly even by PC standards.

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 01:29 AM
I think the huge difference on the PS5 running this game is the streaming. Obviously they’re not using PS5 APIs, which means they can make it even faster and nicer looking on PS5, but just having the SSD there to stream in high LOD models and textures quickly enough is probably the difference maker. It’s hard to explain how much faster the SSD on a PS5 is compared to the PS4 HDD. It maxes out at 5.5GB/sec, which is beastly even by PC standards.

Digital Foundry was saying the same about the texture loading. I thought you said the cpu was an enormous problem though too, which makes sense since 4C/8T gaming cpus run in the 30s and 40s even playing off ssd.

ElNono
12-18-2020, 02:21 AM
Digital Foundry was saying the same about the texture loading. I thought you said the cpu was an enormous problem though too, which makes sense since 4C/8T gaming cpus run in the 30s and 40s even playing off ssd.

I mentioned the CPUs because the benchmarks I’ve seen worked a lot faster on more than 8+ cores. That means they’re CPU bound for some reason, though it’s not entirely clear to me why. For some reason that has an incidence in render time, which it means it can’t be the AI (unless that’s slowing down rendering, which would be a stupid decision).

lefty
12-18-2020, 09:27 AM
:lol today's gaming

In the 90s the games were tougher, more physical

Buy a cartridge made for your console, zero load up time, jump, shoot

Reck
12-18-2020, 09:56 AM
:lol today's gaming

In the 90s the games were tougher, more physical

Buy a cartridge made for your console, zero load up time, jump, shoot

Umm not sure about that. A simple dusting would kill a cartrige in no time.

lefty
12-18-2020, 09:57 AM
Umm not sure about that. A simple dusting would kill a cartrige in no time.
Another 90's myth debunked

Reck
12-18-2020, 10:03 AM
Another 90's myth debunked

The myth was blowing into the cartridges to clean it. :lol

lefty
12-18-2020, 10:03 AM
The myth was blowing into the cartridges to clean it. :lol
good times

FrostKing
12-18-2020, 10:33 AM
:lol today's gaming

In the 90s the games were tougher, more physical

Buy a cartridge made for your console, zero load up time, jump, shoot
1 Continue
No checkpoints
No saving

lefty
12-18-2020, 10:50 AM
1 Continue
No checkpoints
No saving
For most action games yes; you get killed, start over :lol

But Mario had checkpoints (in the form of level completion) and Zelda had saving iirc

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 11:20 AM
1339747265221517312

What a clusterfuck. PR nightmare, though well deserved. Fuck these chumps for putting out a game in this sorry state.

Well, at least XBox finally has a console exclusive

Reck
12-18-2020, 11:23 AM
For most action games yes; you get killed, start over :lol

But Mario had checkpoints (in the form of level completion) and Zelda had saving iirc

Frosty was probably thinking about arcade gaming. Most home games had Checkpoints and a password system ala mega man when you completed a stage, etc.

lefty
12-18-2020, 11:49 AM
Frosty was probably thinking about arcade gaming. Most home games had Checkpoints and a password system ala mega man when you completed a stage, etc.
ah ok maybe
Didn't paly much Megaman tbh

hater
12-18-2020, 12:43 PM
Umm not sure about that. A simple dusting would kill a cartrige in no time.

Bullshit

hater
12-18-2020, 12:45 PM
Fuck this game. Its probably a worse version than Fallout 4. And I got bored w fallout 4 after a week.

Pass

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 01:55 PM
Fuck this game. Its probably a worse version than Fallout 4. And I got bored w fallout 4 after a week.

Pass

WTF are you doing not playing RDR2 with a 10850k + 3070 man? :lol

Shit I'm only rocking a Haswell 4C/8T from 2014 and a 1660 Super and the game is beautiful.

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 01:59 PM
1339983446865801224

Xevious
12-18-2020, 03:18 PM
This shit should've been delayed indefinitely. Either that, or release on PC only until a proper next gen console version could be released.

ElNono
12-18-2020, 04:27 PM
This shit should've been delayed indefinitely. Either that, or release on PC only until a proper next gen console version could be released.

The last delay was supposedly because it wasn’t running well in consoles, so I don’t have any idea what they did with that time. I guess they just quit.

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 04:31 PM
The last delay was supposedly because it wasn’t running well in consoles, so I don’t have any idea what they did with that time. I guess they just quit.

Probably upped the framerate from 15 to 20 in that time. Maybe they can rerelease once they can hit 25 fps without N64 level graphics.

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 04:33 PM
This shit should've been delayed indefinitely. Either that, or release on PC only until a proper next gen console version could be released.

Probably shouldn't have released yet on PC either when the 1080p high recommended spec struggles to even hit 30 fps at 1080p high.

baseline bum
12-18-2020, 05:02 PM
Best Buy allowing refunds on physical copies.

Joseph Kony
12-18-2020, 06:12 PM
this game is the tits btw. easily my 2nd favorite game from this year. just sucks CDPR botched the release on console so badly. they should have just given it to us first and released for console at a later date, that shit happens in reverse all the time for PC games :lol

spurraider21
12-18-2020, 07:21 PM
1 Continue
No checkpoints
No saving
well those games were designed to be beaten in a single sitting (not including speedrunners). today's games are bigger

Reck
12-19-2020, 09:21 AM
Read they’ve lost over a billion dollars already as their stock is in free fall.

ElNono
12-19-2020, 01:51 PM
Read they’ve lost over a billion dollars already as their stock is in free fall.

They still have time to salvage this, because the game is pretty great and well done. This isn’t Fallout 76, tbh.

That said, clock is ticking

baseline bum
12-19-2020, 02:01 PM
They still have time to salvage this, because the game is pretty great and well done. This isn’t Fallout 76, tbh.

That said, clock is ticking

So I should buy this when Walmart is clearing them out for $4.97 apiece in anticipation of playing on PS5?

TDMVPDPOY
12-19-2020, 07:41 PM
They still have time to salvage this, because the game is pretty great and well done. This isn’t Fallout 76, tbh.

That said, clock is ticking

just like that space exploration game 2 years ago, limited planets to explore and half ass finish...

Reck
12-19-2020, 07:53 PM
What is this I'm hearing about a lawsuit?

The NYT did a full article on the failed launch and how Project Red could face a class action lawsuit. :lol things are going great

ElNono
12-19-2020, 08:14 PM
So I should buy this when Walmart is clearing them out for $4.97 apiece in anticipation of playing on PS5?

Def worth 5 bucks

baseline bum
12-19-2020, 08:19 PM
What is this I'm hearing about a lawsuit?

The NYT did a full article on the failed launch and how Project Red could face a class action lawsuit. :lol things are going great

Wonder if they'll end up settling on a fraction of the purchase price for it. I joined the class action lawsuit against Nvidia in 2015 for them misrepresenting the specs of the GTX 970 (it was a 4GB card but only 3.5GB was fast RAM, the other 0.5GB was ridiculously slow) and got $30 back. I think I got $7 from a price fixing class action lawsuit around 2007 or 2008 for some RAM I bought in 2002 and was wondering what the fuck some law firm I had never heard of would be sending me a check for $7 for. :lol

baseline bum
12-20-2020, 03:20 PM
If your save file gets above 8MB it fucking corrupts. :lmao

In repsonse CD Projekt Red says to not loot and craft as much. In a fucking open world RPG? :rollin

Did they design this game to save to a PS2 Memory Card or some shit? This is bar none the worst release I have ever seen for an anticipated game.

Xevious
12-20-2020, 04:48 PM
What sucks is I'd really like to play it some day. Even if all the bugs get fixed, this will never be a $60 purchase for me. It has become a bargain bin purchase at most.

Reck
12-20-2020, 09:25 PM
What sucks is I'd really like to play it some day. Even if all the bugs get fixed, this will never be a $60 purchase for me. It has become a bargain bin purchase at most.

This game is destined for the PSN plus free games of the month catalog. What a disgrace.

baseline bum
12-20-2020, 09:39 PM
This game is destined for the PSN plus free games of the month catalog. What a disgrace.

No way they'd put such a shit game that would embarrass their system so much on PS Plus. Game looks like it has enormous work to be done just to be even playable on either of the last gen consoles.

baseline bum
12-24-2020, 11:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RtXDRfcdps

baseline bum
12-24-2020, 11:46 PM
this game is the tits btw. easily my 2nd favorite game from this year. just sucks CDPR botched the release on console so badly. they should have just given it to us first and released for console at a later date, that shit happens in reverse all the time for PC games :lol

Are you playing on a 30 fps lock?

Joseph Kony
12-25-2020, 03:02 AM
Are you playing on a 30 fps lock?

Nah, i turned it down to medium where it generally runs at 60fps most of the time

redzero
01-19-2021, 01:18 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kzwyxk/even_compared_to_games_from_2002_cyberpunk/

Shows how basic the game is. Even GTAIII had more depth.

ElNono
01-19-2021, 01:51 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kzwyxk/even_compared_to_games_from_2002_cyberpunk/

Shows how basic the game is. Even GTAIII had more depth.

lulz, thanks for sharing

baseline bum
01-25-2021, 01:56 PM
:lol Wow what a piece of shit this game is :lol


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/01/23/a-warning-about-a-cyberpunk-2077-patch-11-game-breaking-bug/?sh=4955d2083550
A Warning About A ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Patch 1.1 Game-Breaking Bug


Well, Cyberpunk 2077’s new 1.1 patch was meant to fix a lot of stuff within the game, working on overall stability and quest-breaking bugs. But as it happens, it has introduced a new game-breaking bug that occurs in a main questline that is tough to avoid, and it can at least temporarily ruin your save.

Here’s what’s going on.

When Takamura calls you for the Down on the Street mission, you’ll get stuck there, and he won’t say anything, with the mission not being able to continue.

Reportedly, reloading saves does not fix this either, and even if you reload an older save, if you get back to this point, it will still happen. This effectively halts all progress in the game.

CDPR support has come up with what they say is a temporary fix/workaround for this issue, before it’s actually fixed in full. Here are the steps for that:

1. Load an older save file before Takamura and V leave Wakako’s office.

2. V must finish the conversation with Takamura outside the office right away.

3. Right after the conversation and updated quest progression, skip 23 hours.

Of course, this process requires potential lost progress depending on how far you have to go back to get to that old save. And unless you have been manual saving, your Autosaves and Quicksaves may be used up, and you might not even be able to get to that point.

This is going to need to be a top priority hotfix for CDPR, as if you cannot do the above steps (or if they don’t work) you simply cannot progress in the game any further. It’s not uncommon for new bugs to be introduced in patches meant to fix others, but this is a very big one, and hopefully it’s able to be fixed soon.

In general, reception to this 1.1 patch, which itself feels like more of a hotfix than a full title update, has been mostly chilly. CDPR did caution that a bigger patch was coming next month, and this one would be smaller, but it feels like even past hotfixes did more to stabilize and improve the game than this one, and reports are somewhat mixed on what this actually did to improve the game on many platforms, especially older consoles. And if you hit this bug well, obviously it made things quite a bit worse.

Check back on this post where I will update it if a fix comes in for this Takamura issue. Until then, maybe uh, keep holding off playing, if you’re not past that point yet.

Joseph Kony
01-25-2021, 03:13 PM
:lol good thing i already beat this mess of a game

baseline bum
01-25-2021, 04:17 PM
:lol good thing i already beat this mess of a game

More I read the less I want to play this shit :lol

vy65
01-25-2021, 05:48 PM
This shit was hella mediocre even on a PS5

baseline bum
01-25-2021, 06:54 PM
This shit was hella mediocre even on a PS5

Damn I would have held out for the PS5 version to come out in the fall.

vy65
01-25-2021, 10:39 PM
Damn I would have held out for the PS5 version to come out in the fall.

Yah but instant gratification though

Joseph Kony
01-26-2021, 09:41 AM
More I read the less I want to play this shit :lol

i still thoroughly enjoyed it tbh...but if i were you i'd wait until the end of the year when the next patch comes out and the DLC is released. once it's fully patched and has some DLC it should be worth it

LaMarcus Bryant
02-02-2021, 10:17 AM
This was prob the saddest victim of 2020

Reck
02-24-2021, 12:16 PM
1364607741680115717 (https://twitter.com/cyberpunkgame/status/1364607741680115717?s=21)

These guys have fallen hard.

baseline bum
02-24-2021, 04:19 PM
This shit was hella mediocre even on a PS5

What you been playing lately on it, man? Thinking of getting Miles Morales Ultimate and Dragon Quest XI S, though will play Tsushima first.

vy65
02-24-2021, 05:14 PM
What you been playing lately on it, man? Thinking of getting Miles Morales Ultimate and Dragon Quest XI S, though will play Tsushima first.

AC Valhalla. It's been ok. Frankly, been spending more time re-playing SWJ: Fallen Order than anything else. People swear by Demon's Souls, which I'll probably pick up after ACV.

spurraider21
02-24-2021, 07:05 PM
AC Valhalla. It's been ok. Frankly, been spending more time re-playing SWJ: Fallen Order than anything else. People swear by Demon's Souls, which I'll probably pick up after ACV.
read that as SJW the first time :lol

baseline bum
02-24-2021, 08:47 PM
read that as SJW the first time :lol

I did too :lol

baseline bum
02-24-2021, 08:48 PM
.

Xevious
02-25-2021, 01:33 PM
D68CrUpbcJo

baseline bum
05-10-2021, 10:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SP3Yr2TGjM