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Dejounte

10-31-2020, 03:48 PM

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Mason Jones

College: Arkansas
Position: SG
Age: 22
Combine Height: 6-foot-6 - Source (https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1322609908596928513)
Weight: Roughly 200 lbs - Body fat down to 6.9% at the NBA Combine - Source (https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1321269968189665281)
Combine Wingspan: 6-foot-8 - Source (https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1322609908596928513)

Why: His offensive feel is unlike any other prospect. His physical measurements match Devin Booker's. He will relentlessly attack the basket with great speed and deceleration and gets fouled on frequently because opposing teams don't know how to stop him. His skill level is high for someone who started basketball at a very late age -- his dribbling isn't fancy, it's effective - similar to Steve Nash. Oh, and he also says he models his game after Manu Ginobili.

Why Not: Defense is not his strong suit. Defensive principles need work.

Spurs Fit: If the Spurs draft him, they obtain an engine for their offense and we will no longer see our players pass the ball like a hot potato because they're afraid to score. Mason is a top flight scorer and was born for today's league.

NBA Comparison - Ceiling: Luka Doncic / James Harden

NBA Comparison - Floor: Eric Gordon

Statistics (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mason-jones-1.html)
Scouting Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl4uAhG0R5A)
Interview (https://hoopshype.com/2020/04/30/nba-draft-prospect-mason-jones-i-can-achieve-being-an-all-star-or-being-an-mvp-in-the-league/)

The thread had to be made.

I have a strong feeling we'll be drafting him. I am the captain of this ship!

talkspurs

10-31-2020, 03:52 PM

I think you are overestimating his floor and ceiling

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 03:54 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4K9PofF.png

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 03:55 PM

I think you are overestimating his floor and ceiling

We'll see about that.

R. DeMurre

10-31-2020, 05:08 PM

Do you mean in the first round? Or the second?

BWS-1994

10-31-2020, 05:16 PM

I think you are overestimating his floor and ceiling

If that is indeed his floor and ceiling... does that make put him in the top 10?

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 05:27 PM

Do you mean in the first round? Or the second?

Second. Though I probably can see him moving up in the late 1st or early second round. We'd need to trade for a late pick, probably. Or fingers crossed, he'll just fall into our laps with our current second round pick.

If that is indeed his floor and ceiling... does that make put him in the top 10?

Mason isn't rising to the top 10. But he is one of those picks where everyone will wonder why they let him slip. The NBA hasn't seen a 2nd round pick become an all-star lately. Mason will be that.

PhantomDashCam

10-31-2020, 06:13 PM

Love the work Dejounte. Thread was almost if timvp created it himself. You using a burner account? :lol

The Truth #6

10-31-2020, 06:44 PM

Other, less optimistic, reviews raise concerns about his poor athleticism translating. Being 22 years old may hurt his stock ss well. But I’m tired of drafting players so young and green that by the time they’re developed they move onto another team.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 06:54 PM

pad300

10-31-2020, 07:24 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4K9PofF.png

Ok, I looked at this @DSamangy 's model,
https://twitter.com/DSamangy/status/1318279497729396737

He's comparing Luka's Euroleague stat's at 19, vs men, to Mason Jones vs NCAA at 22. I wouldn't put too much stock into it...

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 07:31 PM

Ok, I looked at this @DSamangy 's model,
https://twitter.com/DSamangy/status/1318279497729396737

He's comparing Luka's Euroleague stat's at 19, vs men, to Mason Jones vs NCAA at 22. I wouldn't put too much stock into it...

Meh, people put too much emphasis on age. When there's evident positive growth trajectory (year to year) in a player AND if that player started basketball late, age is irrelevant. See: Derrick White, Tim Duncan.

rankingtear

10-31-2020, 08:32 PM

Without PG vision and instincts , his iso scoring skills would be useless. He would be used mainly as a spot up shooter and defender.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 08:36 PM

Without PG vision and instincts , his iso scoring skills would be useless. He would be used mainly as a spot up shooter and defender.

He's got great passing skills. Watch the video in the initial post. Some of the passes were great timing and vision. Arkansas deployed a guard heavy offense with plenty of secondary ball handlers--similar to the Spurs. Mason's job wasn't to distribute only, hence it's not reflected in his assists. Watch his tape and you'll see some eye popping passes.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 08:38 PM

https://youtu.be/ncaWa7IHPNU

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 08:43 PM

https://youtu.be/BSy93Gd0avk

https://youtu.be/BzmEsYrWFCo

https://youtu.be/_TiAgj4F91Y

rankingtear

10-31-2020, 09:22 PM

He's got great passing skills. Watch the video in the initial post. Some of the passes were great timing and vision. Arkansas deployed a guard heavy offense with plenty of secondary ball handlers--similar to the Spurs. Mason's job wasn't to distribute only, hence it's not reflected in his assists. Watch his tape and you'll see some eye popping passes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNXkFybkp_c

Basing it on this.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 09:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNXkFybkp_c

Basing it on this.

So, the video highlighted a couple risky passes that didn't work out. Not sure how this indicates bad overall passing and vision. Manu had some terrible passes in his career where if they were singled out, he would look like he didn't belong in the league.

rankingtear

10-31-2020, 10:07 PM

So, the video highlighted a couple risky passes that didn't work out. Not sure how this indicates bad overall passing and vision. Manu had some terrible passes in his career where if they were singled out, he would look like he didn't belong in the league.

How is it different from your argument that he has great passing skills based on some great passes.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 10:14 PM

How is it different from your argument that he has great passing skills based on some great passes.

Because it's important how those passes were executed, with creativity, vision, and timing, versus simple passes out on the perimeter and the player still ends up turning it over. Mason's turnovers comes from a great idea in his mind, but it just didn't come to fruition. Contrast with DJ where I'm not sure I've seen a brilliant pass, and most of his turnovers (outside of being pick pocketed from poor ball handling) on his passes were straight up simple passes.

Plus, I'd rather work with a player who has great ISO skill and teach him to pass (not that Mason doesn't know how) rather than work with a limited spot up shooter and hope he can learn to dribble, make space from the defender, and so forth.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 10:17 PM

https://twitter.com/AhbAnalytics/status/1262378920512565255?s=19

I've never seen Murray perform a pass like this. If Murray is the baseline, Mason is a couple notches above.

Dejounte

10-31-2020, 10:20 PM

https://twitter.com/SKPearlman/status/1249729501136912384?s=19

Mason is a maestro at drawing fouls, almost Hardenesque. Great video displaying that.

RVSTX

10-31-2020, 10:55 PM

I really like Mason Jones and Isaiah Joe! I love their upside! would love both on the Spurs...

rankingtear

10-31-2020, 11:11 PM

https://youtu.be/ncaWa7IHPNU

Can he even run the pick and roll?

Dejounte

11-01-2020, 12:06 AM

Can he even run the pick and roll?

He can shoot. He can drive. I don't see why not?

ginobilized

11-01-2020, 06:47 PM

So you'd like Jalen Smith in the first round and Mason Jones in the second?
I could live with that.

It is so hard to guess which way the Spurs are going. Only how many days til the draft?!?!?

Dejounte

11-01-2020, 07:02 PM

So you'd like Jalen Smith in the first round and Mason Jones in the second?
I could live with that.

It is so hard to guess which way the Spurs are going. Only how many days til the draft?!?!?

IF WE STAY AT 11TH AND 41ST:

I want us to go big man in the 1st and wing in the 2nd.

So, any of Jalen Smith, Patrick Williams, Isaiah Stewart, Poku with the 1st
and any of Mason Jones, Robert Woodard, Leandro Bolmaro in the 2nd
(PREFERRED: Jalen Smith and Mason Jones)

If we HAD to go wing in the 1st and big man in the 2nd, then...

Either of Aaron Nesmith, Pat Williams in the 1st
and any of Isaiah Stewart, Zeke Nnaji, Daniel Oturu, Xavier Tillman in the 2nd
(PREFERRED: Aaron Nesmith and Isaiah Stewart)

17 days left until the draft...

D-Robinson 50 fan

11-02-2020, 03:27 PM

I was listening to NBA radio yesterday evening, Fran Fracislla and Bruce Pearl were really talking up Mason Jones.

Bruce Pearl (Auburn coach) talked about how Jones dropped 40 on Auburn and how He could be a professional scorer in the NBA with all the space players have as opposed to NCAA.

Dejounte

11-02-2020, 03:42 PM

mo7888

11-02-2020, 05:28 PM

IF WE STAY AT 11TH AND 41ST:

I want us to go big man in the 1st and wing in the 2nd.

So, any of Jalen Smith, Patrick Williams, Isaiah Stewart, Poku with the 1st
and any of Mason Jones, Robert Woodard, Leandro Bolmaro in the 2nd
(PREFERRED: Jalen Smith and Mason Jones)

If we HAD to go wing in the 1st and big man in the 2nd, then...

Either of Aaron Nesmith, Pat Williams in the 1st
and any of Isaiah Stewart, Zeke Nnaji, Daniel Oturu, Xavier Tillman in the 2nd
(PREFERRED: Aaron Nesmith and Isaiah Stewart)

17 days left until the draft...

I agree with your list for each pick although I'd add Perry for the 'a big at 41' list.
My preference for scenario 1 Smith and Woodard

My preference for scenario 2 Nesmith and Woodard

I see Woodard logging quite a few minutes at the 4.

Dejounte

11-05-2020, 02:53 PM

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324439147256422400?s=19

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324437460655525890?s=19

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324445937075367939?s=19

JuneJive

11-05-2020, 03:44 PM

Zeus was hyping Nwora up. Kudos.

Those % are very promising.

I really doubt he would last till #41 tho. Same goes for Jones.

Maybe Gay to Celts for #26?

The Truth #6

11-05-2020, 05:11 PM

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324439147256422400?s=19

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324437460655525890?s=19

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324445937075367939?s=19

That's impressive for your guy Jones.

mo7888

11-05-2020, 10:27 PM

Dejounte

11-09-2020, 02:45 PM

https://twitter.com/masonjones2/status/1325882494311391238?s=19

L E G E N D

Trade UP and draft this guy, please

ace3g

01-16-2021, 07:01 PM

Calm down MJ....

Degoat

01-16-2021, 07:27 PM

Dejounte called it on this guy lol I remember thinking who the fck is mason jones

Dejounte

01-16-2021, 07:30 PM

Told y'all I have an eye on talent...

My boy Jalen Smith has been injured, but I think for bigs like him it'll take a year or two to really blow up.

D-Robinson 50 fan

01-16-2021, 07:36 PM

Dejounte

01-16-2021, 07:39 PM

SMH

i wish the young man a lot of luck with his future but I wouldn’t fairly judge how good or bad he is off of one game and especially how good he is off of good games against our bad defense. Lol

He's going to have more good games like this. Book it. Called it for Keldon, calling it for Mason.

D-Robinson 50 fan

01-16-2021, 07:43 PM

He's going to have more good games like this. Book it. Called it for Keldon, calling it for Mason.

ok.........

LMAO

Dejounte

01-16-2021, 07:45 PM

ok.........

LMAO

Not sure why it's so hard to believe?

Watched so many of his college games and his stats in college were extraordinary.

https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/status/1350602084878585857?s=19

He fell because of his age. That was it.

D-Robinson 50 fan

01-16-2021, 07:50 PM

Not sure why it's so hard to believe?

Watched so many of his college games and his stats in college were extraordinary.

https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/status/1350602084878585857?s=19

He fell because of his age. That was it.

i didn’t say it was hard to believe or if you are wrong or right. LMAO.

I just said it isn’t wise to judge people off of 1 or 2 good outings. Especially when they are playing our sorry defense. I’m not saying the guy is good or bad, shit in this very thread I talked about how some NCAA coaches thought he would be a steal if drafted low.

I wish the guy well but honestly I’m not too invested because he doesn’t play for the Spurs.

RVSTX

01-17-2021, 05:08 AM

I really liked Mason Jones and his running mate Isaiah Joe, I really liked tre jones upside defensively, and I liked Malachi Flynn. those were my choices at 41...in this order,
mason jones, isaiah joe, flynn, and tre jones...we ended up with tre, but i would have loved mason jones!

D WHITE

03-26-2021, 09:58 PM

I didn't realize this fool was already waived by the Rockets :lmao

BackHome

03-26-2021, 10:40 PM

Zeus was hyping Nwora up. Kudos.

Those % are very promising.

I really doubt he would last till #41 tho. Same goes for Jones.

Maybe Gay to Celts for #26?

What happened to Zeus did he die or he using an alt? I gotta admit I kinda miss his shtick.

exstatic

03-26-2021, 10:46 PM

What happened to Zeus did he die or he using an alt? I gotta admit I kinda miss his shtick.

Maybe Rona got him.

BackHome

03-26-2021, 10:49 PM

I didn't realize this fool was already waived by the Rockets :lmao

Philly just picked him up on a two wayl contract - Philly looking good now they got outside shooters

R. DeMurre

03-26-2021, 10:51 PM

What happened to Zeus did he die or he using an alt?

I've been wondering too. In one of his last posts, he said that he had coronavirus and was worried about his wife and daughter getting it. I think his daughter was somehow immunocompromised. Hope he and his family are ok.

BackHome

03-26-2021, 10:59 PM

Yeah Now I remember that sucks I hope him and his family are doing well he would always make me laugh with his Zeus judging ya Shtick.

rastaspur

03-27-2021, 01:55 AM

This guy wont make it in the nba imo. His lateral agility and quickness make him a defensive liability.

Great college scorer but comes up short in the athletic department on the pro level.

Great shooter. But that's where the compliments end.

exstatic

03-27-2021, 08:42 AM