AOC 2024

[RD2191]

You heard it here first. :wakeup

[hater]

Only as a 3rd party

[RandomGuy]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.

[SpursforSix]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.

Until your next choice is another corporate Democrat.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Only as a 3rd party
which would guarantee a republican landslide tbh. Rust belt would give her a solid 20% as a third party (independent, green party, etc) and almost all of those stolen from the Dems.

[RandomGuy]

Until your next choice is another corporate Democrat.

Nope. I ignored a lot of arguments from hard-core leftists saying they were not going to give their votes to Democrats because they were being ignored.

I have always been fairly pragmatic, and thought myself strategic. I was wrong.

[RD2191]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.
Same, I think she'd do very well. She isn't your typical old out of touch Democrat, she appeals to minorities, young people, and women.

[baseline bum]

Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.
but, Kamala will be the incumbent by 2024, not Alzheimers Joe

[Joseph Kony]

i like her but given the outcome of this election, it's clear she is far too progressive for America still. maybe 2028

[Trainwreck2100]

Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.

she'll be as hated as hillary by the south

[baseline bum]

i like her but given the outcome of this election, it's clear she is far too progressive for America still. maybe 2028

She won't have nice tits in 2028. Better go for 2024.

[Spurminator]

She won't have nice tits in 2028. Better go for 2024.

Maybe Soros and Justice Democrats can splurge for her enhancements.

[hater]

Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.

Neither did Obomba

Its the independents....

[SpursforSix]

Nope. I ignored a lot of arguments from hard-core leftists saying they were not going to give their votes to Democrats because they were being ignored.

I have always been fairly pragmatic, and thought myself strategic. I was wrong.

So if in 4 years, if it's Biden vs. whoever, you're going to abstain?

[Millennial_Messiah]

So if in 4 years, if it's Biden vs. whoever, you're going to abstain?
Biden has Alzheimers dude... It will be Kamala.

[chunticakes]

Biden has Alzheimers dude... It will be Kamala.

I give Uncle Joe a year tops before he's a vegetable and Kamala is president, tbh.

[SpursforSix]

Biden has Alzheimers dude... It will be Kamala.

Not the point retard.

[RandomGuy]

Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.

Tell me again how that worked out this time?

I think it it time to stop repeating the same losing strategy and hoping it will work somehow differently. Dunno.

[RandomGuy]

Biden has Alzheimers dude... It will be Kamala.

President Sniffles McAdderal is worse.

Poeple ding Biden, but a lot of what they go after is just a by-product of having to work around a stutter, IMO.

[baseline bum]

Tell me again how that worked out this time?

I think it it time to stop repeating the same losing strategy and hoping it will work somehow differently. Dunno.

It was a joke about Karrin and DMC pretending they'd vote Democrat if they just weren't so damn socialist

[Millennial_Messiah]

President Sniffles McAdderal is worse.

Poeple ding Biden, but a lot of what they go after is just a by-product of having to work around a stutter, IMO.
Trump is history dude. Time to move forward. Biden is president but for how long?! Kamala taking power is an inevitability, not a possibility.

Wanna take bets on when Trump will concede? I say he should today.

[RandomGuy]

Trump is history dude. Time to move forward. Biden is president but for how long?! Kamala taking power is an inevitability, not a possibility.

Wanna take bets on when Trump will concede? I say he should today.

*should*

But

won't.

I think you are underestimating his mental illness.

my bet is it goes to the courts, where he will hope the Angriff des Steiner will succeed in pushing him into another term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Detachment_Steiner

(if you listen carefully to that famous hitler rant video he references "Angriff Steiner" (Steiner's attack)

It will be about as successful.

[boutons_deux]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.

neocon, neoliberal, center-right, corporatist BigDollar Dem establishment person is the only candidate you will see.

[RandomGuy]

neocon, neoliberal, center-right, corporatist BigDollar Dem establishment person is the only candidate you will see.

(nods)

Fucked... but I am still out on unfuckable.

At this point, I think the oligarchy may truly be unbeatable. In the end, you may indeed be right. Many here will owe you an apology when or if that finally becomes clear.

[RandomGuy]

So if in 4 years, if it's Biden vs. whoever, you're going to abstain?

Abstain? Dunno. I really don't think I will vote for another corporate Democrat . Democratic party needs to get off its ass and run on policy, and quite apologizing for it. Fascists will scream communism no matter how mild sauce they go, might as well make it about ideas, IMO.

I will vote for down ballot local races, but the Democratic party decides to weak sauce it again, fuck it.

[SnakeBoy]

It was a joke about Karrin and DMC pretending they'd vote Democrat if they just weren't so damn socialist

Elena would have brought them over tbh

[Will Hunting]

Sorry but AOC is too into the woke shit and too liberal on immigration.

YANG GANG 2024

[Millennial_Messiah]

Sorry but AOC is too into the woke shit and too liberal on immigration.

YANG GANG 2024
Yang is for stimulus for all? universal basic income? would that abolish other welfare and medicaid?

[baseline bum]

Sorry but AOC is too into the woke shit and too liberal on immigration.

YANG GANG 2024

Yang's from Taiwan, would be too easy to tie to the Chinese CCP for Trump's low information voter base.

[gambit1990]

YANG GANG 2024

[RandomGuy]

Yang's from Taiwan, would be too easy to tie to the Chinese CCP for Trump's low information voter base.

(shrugs) They aren't crossing over anyway. 1/2 the country will believe just about any lie anyway.

[RandomGuy]

Yang is for stimulus for all? universal basic income? would that abolish other welfare and medicaid?

Most of it would. Would still need universal healthcare, but yes, that would obviate welfare and food stamps, if set to the right level.

[SnakeBoy]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.

lol you'll tow the party line like you always do

[CosmicCowboy]

AOC 2024?

:lol

Please do.

[baseline bum]

lol you'll tow the party line like you always do

Yep wouldn't cross over like you would have for Elena amirite?

[SnakeBoy]

Yep wouldn't cross over like you would have for Elena amirite?

Different game entirely.

We step to the right and tell Dems they need to move towards the new center :lol

[baseline bum]

Different game entirely.

We step to the right and tell Dems they need to move towards the new center :lol

You mean sprint to the right

[DC23]

Not 2024 but could see it in 2028. She's still very young.

[RandomGuy]

Different game entirely.

We step to the right and tell Dems they need to move towards the new center :lol

again with the honesty. you are harshing my buzz man.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

[koriwhat]

"trump's a fascist"... cry cry cry yet here yall are wanting a real fascist in the WH as she sits already in congress. how fucking ironic.

[RandomGuy]

AOC 2024?

:lol

Please do.

:lol you thinking she isn't intelligent.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

you have been lied to about how smart she actually is, and your rush to dismiss her because she is a woman leads you to accept that lie uncritically. You revel in making fun of her because of that lie.

[koriwhat]

:lol you thinking she isn't intelligent.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

you have been lied to about how smart she actually is, and your rush to dismiss her because she is a woman leads you to accept that lie uncritically. You revel in making fun of her because of that lie.

nah she's a fucking retard who wears fake hipster glasses on the hill to try and come across as intelligent. she ain't nothing but a pitcher's mitt with tits.

[RD2191]

nah she's a fucking retard who wears fake hipster glasses on the hill to try and come across as intelligent. she ain't nothing but a pitcher's mitt with tits.
you have calf tats though

[140]

you have calf tats though

:lmao

[DJR210]

She'll never get it.. the democrats don't even like her or her bullshit

[Splits]

you have calf tats though

lol

[Trainwreck2100]

She'll never get it.. the democrats don't even like her or her bullshit

Yeah trying to tea party her way to power while giving the R's their new Boogeyman, seems to have turned a few of them off

[Trill Clinton]

you have calf tats though


:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Democrats won't still that election for her; but I could be wrong.

[FkLA]

Candace Owens 2024 imo

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol you thinking she isn't intelligent.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

you have been lied to about how smart she actually is, and your rush to dismiss her because she is a woman leads you to accept that lie uncritically. You revel in making fun of her because of that lie.

You remind me of Trump thinking if you tell a lie enough people will start to accept it as truth. 2020 has proven that hard core democrats are the party of civil violence. Seattle, etc.

As for AOC, she is a moderately attractive parrot for her justice league buddies. She isn't stupid, but will always be on the fringe of her party like tea party republicans.

[RandomGuy]

You remind me of Trump thinking if you tell a lie enough people will start to accept it as truth. 2020 has proven that hard core democrats are the party of civil violence. Seattle, etc.

As for AOC, she is a moderately attractive parrot for her justice league buddies. She isn't stupid, but will always be on the fringe of her party like tea party republicans.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I call it like I see it. You, like most people who self identify as conservative cannot have an honest discussion about... well just about anything.

I can prove my point with simple questions on just about anything. I can ask about right wing violence and get you to be dishonest pretty much in the same stroke.
You will prove my point for me.

Political terrorist attacks in the US are pretty much exclusively right wing.

Yes or no?

[Bogie]

You remind me of Trump thinking if you tell a lie enough people will start to accept it as truth. 2020 has proven that hard core democrats are the party of civil violence. Seattle, etc.

As for AOC, she is a moderately attractive parrot for her justice league buddies. She isn't stupid, but will always be on the fringe of her party like tea party republicans.

you’re trying to break the irony meter.

Blind Party of trump supporter.

[CosmicCowboy]

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I call it like I see it. You, like most people who self identify as conservative cannot have an honest discussion about... well just about anything.

I can prove my point with simple questions on just about anything. I can ask about right wing violence and get you to be dishonest pretty much in the same stroke.
You will prove my point for me.

Political terrorist attacks in the US are pretty much exclusively right wing.

Yes or no?

Steve Scalise says hi. what Republican terrorist attacks are you referring to?

[RandomGuy]

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I call it like I see it. You, like most people who self identify as conservative cannot have an honest discussion about... well just about anything.

I can prove my point with simple questions on just about anything. I can ask about right wing violence and get you to be dishonest pretty much in the same stroke.
You will prove my point for me.

Political terrorist attacks in the US are pretty much exclusively right wing.

Yes or no?


Steve Scalise says hi. what Republican terrorist attacks are you referring to?

translation


[an attempt at mocking to incite anger] [lie about what the question asked coupled with an attempt to evade by asking a counter question]

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I said you would prove my point for me.

You proved my point for me. You all can't help yourselves, smh. dishonesty. and violence.

[CosmicCowboy]

translation



The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I said you would prove my point for me.

You proved my point for me. You all can't help yourselves, smh. dishonesty. and violence.

:lmao

Speaking of evading the question. :lol

What republican terrorist acts are you referring to?

[RandomGuy]

Go on. Tell me that your post didn't prove my point.

You called it a lie, then went right out the first chance you got, and proved it out.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

Speaking of evading the question. :lol

What republican terrorist acts are you referring to?

I did not refer to any "republican" terrorist attacks. I said "right wing terrorist" attacks. I thought you could read. Perhaps I was mistaken?

[CosmicCowboy]

I did not refer to any "republican" terrorist attacks. I said "right wing terrorist" attacks. I thought you could read. Perhaps I was mistaken?

OK. Those right wing BLM and Antifa? :lmao

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

Speaking of evading the question. :lol

What republican terrorist acts are you referring to?

The easy answer to your dishonest question, is "none".

You really want me to google "right wing terrorist attacks" and provide you with dozens of links?

A 2017 report by The Nation Institute and Center for Investigative Reporting looked at the terrorist incidents in the US between 2008 and 2016.[13] It found:[14]


115 Far right inspired terror incidents. 35% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 29% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 79 deaths.
63 Islamist inspired terror incidents. 76% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 13% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 90 deaths.
19 incidents inspired by left-wing ideologies (and eco-terrorism). 20% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 10% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 7 deaths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

[RandomGuy]

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.



OK. Those right wing BLM and Antifa? :lmao

"I am going to attempt to prove the core of modern conservatism is not dishonest by lying repeatedly"

That is your thinking on this? smh.

[CosmicCowboy]

"I am going to attempt to prove the core of modern conservatism is not dishonest by lying repeatedly"

That is your thinking on this? smh.

Enjoying watching you duck and dodge and your inability to link republican conservatives to violence as you claim.

[RandomGuy]

Enjoying watching you duck and dodge and your inability to link republican conservatives to violence as you claim.

Already directly answered your question. None. I did not ask about Republican terrorist attacks. That is a lie.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I asked about right wing terrorist attacks.

[CosmicCowboy]

Already directly answered your question. None. I did not ask about Republican terrorist attacks. That is a lie.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

I asked about right wing terrorist attacks.

It's a two party system. Would "right wing" be Democrats?

[RandomGuy]

It's a two party system. Would "right wing" be Democrats?

Most would not qualify. Some centrists would be moderate right-wingers, yes.

The Republican party has driven out moderates. It is directly tilting actively fascist.

(edit)

Moderates tend to not commit terrorist attacks.

[RandomGuy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting

The anti-immigrat nutter that went on a rampage in El Paso was neither Democrat, nor Republican, having criticized both parties for being to lax on immigrants.

He was a white nationalist right winger, who viewed the Republican party as not right wing enough.

[CosmicCowboy]

Most would not qualify. Some centrists would be moderate right-wingers, yes.

The Republican party has driven out moderates. It is directly tilting actively fascist.

(edit)

Moderates tend to not commit terrorist attacks.

More evasion and inability to list specific instances of right wing political terror, even as I gave you a specific instance of Democrat political terror.

[RandomGuy]

More evasion and inability to list specific instances of right wing political terror, even as I gave you a specific instance of Democrat political terror.

I gave you as honest an answer as I could.

What is evasive about this answer?


It's a two party system. Would "right wing" be Democrats?

I essentially said "no". "most would not qualify as right wing, and those that would, are very moderately so"

You did not list any "specific instance" of political terror.

Sorry. You essentially waved your hand and said "BLM ANTIFA BAD".

That is not a specific instance. I think that is just you repeating a talking point for the cult you belong to as if it is true, prima fascie.

Sorry I do not buy your cults assertions, unless supported by evidence.

[RandomGuy]

More evasion and inability to list specific instances of right wing political terror, even as I gave you a specific instance of Democrat political terror.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks

[RandomGuy]

So let's start with something recent:

October 2018 United States mail bombing attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts

From October 22 to November 1, 2018, sixteen packages found to contain pipe bombs were mailed via the U.S. Postal Service to several Democratic Party politicians and other prominent critics of U.S. President Donald Trump. Targets included former U.S. President Barack Obama, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, and former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

[RandomGuy]

Poway synagogue shooting
he Poway synagogue shooting occurred on April 27, 2019, when a gunman armed with an AR-15 style rifle[1] fired shots inside the Chabad of Poway synagogue in Poway, California,[2][3] a city approximately 20 miles (32 km) north of San Diego. The attack took place on the last day of the Jewish Passover holiday, which fell on a Shabbat.[4] One woman was killed and three other people were injured, including the synagogue's rabbi.[5][6] After fleeing the scene, the alleged gunman phoned 9-1-1 and reported the shooting. He was apprehended in his car approximately two miles (3.2 km) from the synagogue by a San Diego police officer.

After arraignment in late 2019, Earnest was scheduled to be tried on multiple state charges in June 2020; the state announced it would seek the death penalty. The federal government had also filed hate crime charges. The trial was originally intended to start in June 2020, but it was delayed until at least March 15, 2021, due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

[CosmicCowboy]

Poway synagogue shooting
he Poway synagogue shooting occurred on April 27, 2019, when a gunman armed with an AR-15 style rifle[1] fired shots inside the Chabad of Poway synagogue in Poway, California,[2][3] a city approximately 20 miles (32 km) north of San Diego. The attack took place on the last day of the Jewish Passover holiday, which fell on a Shabbat.[4] One woman was killed and three other people were injured, including the synagogue's rabbi.[5][6] After fleeing the scene, the alleged gunman phoned 9-1-1 and reported the shooting. He was apprehended in his car approximately two miles (3.2 km) from the synagogue by a San Diego police officer.

After arraignment in late 2019, Earnest was scheduled to be tried on multiple state charges in June 2020; the state announced it would seek the death penalty. The federal government had also filed hate crime charges. The trial was originally intended to start in June 2020, but it was delayed until at least March 15, 2021, due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Anti-Semitism is not political terror.

next

[RandomGuy]

More evasion and inability to list specific instances of right wing political terror, even as I gave you a specific instance of Democrat political terror.

I could go on for several pages listing various right wing terrorist attacks.

I have you one direct Republican terrorist attack, the MAGA bomber.

How many do you wish to have?

[RandomGuy]

Anti-Semitism is not political terror.

next

The right wing terrorist who attacked the synagogue had direct political motives, with the political goal of creating a pure white, Christian nation, free of jews.

[RandomGuy]

Anti-Semitism is not political terror.

next

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

You are attempting to be dishonest, and claiming that anti-semetic attacks are not political, when they are almost always explicity political, with the policy goal of an ethnically pure theocratic state.


An anti-semitic and racist open letter was posted on 8chan shortly before the shooting and signed with Earnest's name.[24] It said that Jews were preparing a "meticulously planned genocide of the European race", a white genocide conspiracy theory. In the alleged shooter's manifesto, he denied that he had learned anti-semitic beliefs from his family.[25]

Earnest is believed to have written the letter, in which he cited shooters Brenton Tarrant and Robert Bowers for their involvement in the Christchurch mosque shootings and the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, respectively. He said that Jesus, Paul the Apostle, Martin Luther, Adolf Hitler, Ludwig van Beethoven, "Moon Man" and Pink Guy were figures who inspired him to commit the shooting. Earnest made a joking mention of PewDiePie and referenced "The Day of the Rope", an event from William Luther Pierce's neo-Nazi novel The Turner Diaries (1978), in which African Americans and Hispanics are executed and urged more violent attacks.[24] He condemned President Donald Trump as a pro-Zionist traitor

Would you like to read his published manifesto, in which he outlined his political goals?

[CosmicCowboy]

I could go on for several pages listing various right wing terrorist attacks.

I have you one direct Republican terrorist attack, the MAGA bomber.

How many do you wish to have?

A mentally ill homeless guy that had been butt fucked by a priest as a child and been previously arrested 9 times. What could possibly go wrong?

[RandomGuy]

A mentally ill homeless guy that had been butt fucked by a priest as a child and been previously arrested 9 times. What could possibly go wrong?

So it is starting to sink in. Your attempt at the No True Scotsman fallacy shows that you are beginning to realize I have a point about the level of right wing violence.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.


No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample.

[RandomGuy]

Anyhoo, I got other shit to do today.

Thank you for proving my point about the core of modern conservatism being dishonesty at least. The violence, speaks for itself, IMO.

LMGIFY
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02hvcP2DwJKINu3IPcBiQlqf5b8Jw%3A 1604589749752&source=hp&ei=tRikX7bdKsH0swXas4aADA&q=right+wing+terrorism

[CosmicCowboy]

So it is starting to sink in. Your attempt at the No True Scotsman fallacy shows that you are beginning to realize I have a point about the level of right wing violence.

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

Painting all conservatives as violent because of a few mentally ill individuals is the epitome of dishonesty. It would be like me claiming you were violent because of the actions of a violent left wing antifa supporter.

[RandomGuy]

Painting all conservatives as violent because of a few mentally ill individuals is the epitome of dishonesty. It would be like me claiming you were violent because of the actions of a violent left wing antifa supporter.

I should be clear:

Not all conservatives are violent. Most aren't. The vast majority aren't.

Not all conservatives are liars. Most are fairly honest.

I am saying that the core ideology seems to encourage dishonesty. and violence.

The fact that I can't have a single honest conversation with any self-identifying conservative convinces me of that.

The underlying violent streak shows up in the overwhelming urge to mock and/or belittle. It is a mild form of bullying.

You have bean provably dishonest, and mocking.

I don't think you even can have an honest discussion these days. Your "fight or flight" mechanism kicks in, you get slightly angry, and stop thinking.

Tell me you didn't get peeved here. Did you?

[CosmicCowboy]

I should be clear:

Not all conservatives are violent. Most aren't. The vast majority aren't.

Not all conservatives are liars. Most are fairly honest.

I am saying that the core ideology seems to encourage dishonesty. and violence.

The fact that I can't have a single honest conversation with any self-identifying conservative convinces me of that.

The underlying violent streak shows up in the overwhelming urge to mock and/or belittle. It is a mild form of bullying.

You have bean provably dishonest, and mocking.

I don't think you even can have an honest discussion these days. Your "fight or flight" mechanism kicks in, you get slightly angry, and stop thinking.

Tell me you didn't get peeved here. Did you?

Nope, didn't get peeved. Just finally made you admit your broad generalities were wrong. Took a few posts but you finally admitted it.

[RandomGuy]

Nope, didn't get peeved. Just finally made you admit your broad generalities were wrong. Took a few posts but you finally admitted it.

Not really.

I do think I should be a bit more clear though. It seems you have misunderstood me and we are/were talking past each other.

The core of modern conservative ideology encourages dishonesty. and violence.

[SnakeBoy]

You, like most people who self identify as conservative cannot have an honest discussion about... well just about anything.


I told you social democrats you would be better off voting for Trump over Biden. That was honesty but you didn't want to hear it.

Now you're saying never again but it's too late. You fucked yourselves :lol

[RandomGuy]

I told you social democrats you would be better off voting for Trump over Biden. That was honesty but you didn't want to hear it.

Now you're saying never again but it's too late. You fucked yourselves :lol

Biden was the better choice than Trump. No regrets on that, and would do it again in a heart beat.

:lol dishonest piece of shit voting advice. Sersiously, go fuck off to the edge of fuckville, to the sign that says "no fucking off past this point" and keep going.

[SnakeBoy]

Biden was the better choice than Trump. No regrets on that, and would do it again in a heart beat.

:lol dishonest piece of shit voting advice. Sersiously, go fuck off to the edge of fuckville, to the sign that says "no fucking off past this point" and keep going.

The truth always makes you so angry :lol

[RandomGuy]

The truth always makes you so angry :lol

:lol The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.

You want me to be angry, so you make up a lie in your mind that I am.

You can't even be honest with yourselves.

Or maybe especially with yourselves. smh.

[cd021]

i like her but given the outcome of this election, it's clear she is far too progressive for America still. maybe 2028

The demographics probably need to change more for her to have a shot. At least 2032 IMO.

[koriwhat]

you have calf tats though

i have tattoos all over my body you stupid fuck and wgaf anyhow about tattoos on anyone? your insults are as lame as your pol ideology you pussy.

[koriwhat]

Biden was the better choice than Trump. No regrets on that, and would do it again in a heart beat.

:lol dishonest piece of shit voting advice. Sersiously, go fuck off to the edge of fuckville, to the sign that says "no fucking off past this point" and keep going.

you're a pussy bro so it's no surprise.

[RandomGuy]

you're a pussy bro so it's no surprise.

... and back on ignore. You're a worthless human being. No one will miss you when you die, and few will care to bother remembering you. that is... sad.

I hope you find some modicum of happiness though.

[SnakeBoy]

2024 ticket

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/rep-kristi-noem-rs-dak-left-speaks-with-ivanka-trump-as-they-walk-picture-id866348370

I don't care which is on top

[RandomGuy]

2024 ticket

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/rep-kristi-noem-rs-dak-left-speaks-with-ivanka-trump-as-they-walk-picture-id866348370

I don't care which is on top

You say that, but I hear:

"I didn't get enough nepotism and rank incompetence in the first trump term, I want more Trumps in office, because monarchy, that's why"

[SnakeBoy]

You say that, but I hear:

"I didn't get enough nepotism and rank incompetence in the first trump term, I want more Trumps in office, because monarchy, that's why"

You only hear that because your an idiot

[Neo.]

you have calf tats though


i have tattoos all over my body you stupid fuck and wgaf anyhow about tattoos on anyone? your insults are as lame as your pol ideology you pussy.

:rollin this never gets old

[CosmicCowboy]

Sadly, Spurs tats these days are like having Memphis grizzly calf tats.

[Th'Pusher]

You only hear that because your an idiot

A misspelling followed by calling someone an idiot never gets old. :lol

[RandomGuy]

You only hear that because your an idiot

What about my idiot? Are you volunteering?

[Pelicans78]

I don’t think this country will ever vote for a socialist, especially in the swing states.

[Will Hunting]

I don’t think this country will ever vote for a socialist, especially in the swing states.
That must be why Katie Porter won her race in a red district by 10 points while the centrists who won swing districts in 2018 got their teeth kicked in.

[Will Hunting]

Somehow Jared Golden comfortably won re-election in Maine's 2nd district by campaigning on the "radical" ideas of M4A and a Green New Deal while both Biden and Gideon got shellacked in Maine's 2nd district by running on centrism.

But yeah, progressive ideas and SOCIALISM! were clearly the reason Democrats lost this election.

[midnightpulp]

I don’t think this country will ever vote for a socialist, especially in the swing states.

There's no socialist politicians in the US. The label "Democratic Socialist" is completely retarded. Socialism is centered around nationalizing all industry and running the economy from a centralized bureaucracy. Nobody is proposing that here.

[midnightpulp]

Somehow Jared Golden comfortably won re-election in Maine's 2nd district by campaigning on the "radical" ideas of M4A and a Green New Deal while both Biden and Gideon got shellacked in Maine's 2nd district by running on centrism.

But yeah, progressive ideas and SOCIALISM! were clearly the reason Democrats lost this election.

:lol even rednecks love progressive ideas if they're labeled differently.

[RandomGuy]

There's no socialist politicians in the US. The label "Democratic Socialist" is completely retarded. Socialism is centered around nationalizing all industry and running the economy from a centralized bureaucracy. Nobody is proposing that here.

Democratic socialism isn't quite about nationalizing anything.

Just keeping corps in check. remember seeing a decent 'splainer somewhere.

[Will Hunting]

:lol even rednecks love progressive ideas if they're labeled differently.
It doesn’t help when Pelosi and Schumer intentionally put bad labels on progressive ideas because they want to see them fail.

There were a lot of Florida Democrats who ran away from the state’s $15.00 minimum wage initiative because they thought it was too radical, only for Florida to vote overwhelmingly Republican while simultaneously voting for that initiative with 60% approval. If the Democrats in Florida ran as the candidates who were behind that initiative and supportive of it methinks they would have done a lot better.

[Spurminator]

Democratic socialism isn't quite about nationalizing anything.

Just keeping corps in check. remember seeing a decent 'splainer somewhere.

Doesn't matter what it's about if the name is poison.

Rebrand it.

[CosmicCowboy]

"The Squad", Defund the Police and the socialism label killed you guys in the house. When all the votes are counted Democrats may only have the house by 5 seats. Keep that shit up and you will probably lose the house in 2022.

[Trainwreck2100]

Doesn't matter what it's about if the name is poison.

Rebrand it.

same thing with "defund the police" using defund is fucking stupid

[Spurminator]

same thing with "defund the police" using defund is fucking stupid

Sometimes the left is more interested in being "right" than they are in winning.

Call that shit "No Police Officer Left Behind," get some token cops to support it on news networks and get it done.

[CosmicCowboy]

I read that "the squad" grew by 4 more members in this election. That's four more loudmouths to fuck your guys chances in 2022.

[Will Hunting]

I read that "the squad" grew by 4 more members in this election. That's four more loudmouths to fuck your guys chances in 2022.
The squad added more members, all the progressives kept their seats, while centrist Dems got clobbered.

Yeah clearly the progressives are the problem.

[Trainwreck2100]

The squad added more members, all the progressives kept their seats, while centrist Dems got clobbered.

Yeah clearly the progressives are the problem.

oh please, the squad only runs in safe dem districts, they're the tea party of the dems

[CosmicCowboy]

The squad added more members, all the progressives kept their seats, while centrist Dems got clobbered.

Yeah clearly the progressives are the problem.

The progressives loud mouths were the bullets that killed democrats in swing districts.

[Will Hunting]

oh please, the squad only runs in safe dem districts, they're the tea party of the dems
She might not be “squad” but Katie Porter is leftist who won in a district Trump won by 17% in 2016.

[elbamba1]

This election just showed that the country is years away from electing a true liberal politician for POTUS.

[CosmicCowboy]

She might not be “squad” but Katie Porter is leftist who won in a district Trump won by 17% in 2016.

Most of the conservatives there moved to Texas since 2016.

[spurraider21]

There's no socialist politicians in the US. The label "Democratic Socialist" is completely retarded. Socialism is centered around nationalizing all industry and running the economy from a centralized bureaucracy. Nobody is proposing that here.
Socialism isn’t necessarily top down state owned industry. Just means the workers or public own means of production. Worker cooperatives are effectively socialist enterprises

[Will Hunting]

The progressives loud mouths were the bullets that killed democrats in swing districts.
The retarded Defund the Police protests were, which is largely due to horrible Dem messaging. They Dems went with the Kellyanne defense of “Well they don’t literally mean defund the police” when they should have come out with a unified message of “we want police reform but defund the police is stupid and we don’t support defunding or abolishing police at all.” The Squad didn’t help in that respect but Pelosi and party leadership were just as bad at the messaging part.

Im also not convinced Democrats basically conceding Trump was the candidate who was better for the economy didn’t have a bigger impact than defund the police. It’s tough to win when the other side is delivering a better message on the issue that 40% of the country views as the most important issue.

[elbamba1]

She might not be “squad” but Katie Porter is leftist who won in a district Trump won by 17% in 2016.

Pretty sure Biden is going to win Orange County by double-digit percentages. I think the District is moving farther to the left.

[daslicer]

The squad added more members, all the progressives kept their seats, while centrist Dems got clobbered.

Yeah clearly the progressives are the problem.

Agreed. I look at my own state NC and we lost all the red counties by big margins with Biden despite Biden being republican lite. Biden over performed in the blue counties down here but under performed in the red counties. Also our centrist dem candidates got their ass whooped in red districts for congress down here. Cunningham a centrist could not defeat the incumbent Tillis for the senate seat. I know some will say the adultery scandal cost him but I believe he probably would have still lost anyways.

[RandomGuy]

same thing with "defund the police" using defund is fucking stupid

They tried to pivot to "reform" but it was too late.

Best to frame it with "support the police" as in "we ask them to do too much, here's how we help them".

[Trainwreck2100]

They tried to pivot to "reform" but it was too late.

Best to frame it with "support the police" as in "we ask them to do too much, here's how we help them".

because they let defund to take hold certain people will say defund=reform. It was a stupid saying that the Dems let get out of hand so their cities would stop burning

[DarrinS]

A tree stump with a D painted on it could win in AOC's district.

[koriwhat]

... and back on ignore. You're a worthless human being. No one will miss you when you die, and few will care to bother remembering you. that is... sad.

I hope you find some modicum of happiness though.

yeah yeah yeah you fucking loser! i wouldn't give one fuck if you gave a damn about me in the first place because i literally don't give a damn about you and the other stupid fucks just like you RG. go fuck yourself bitch!

oh no i'm back on ignore! i'm not in the cool kids club on ST. boo hoo...

[koriwhat]

:rollin this never gets old

what never gets old is 30+ yr olds with multiple accounts on an internet message board as if you're 13 yrs old.

[spurraider21]

yeah yeah yeah you fucking loser! i wouldn't give one fuck if you gave a damn about me in the first place because i literally don't give a damn about you and the other stupid fucks just like you RG. go fuck yourself bitch!

oh no i'm back on ignore! i'm not in the cool kids club on ST. boo hoo...
:lol weak male melting down after daddy loses the election

[spurraider21]

A tree stump with a D painted on it could win in AOC's district.
i'd take a tree stump over trump

[koriwhat]

:lol weak male melting down after daddy loses the election

this is the shit that cracks me up... the hyperbole, fairytale, weak fucks like yourself SR. i don't care either way tbh and trump was nothing more than a bull in a china shop(literally) who was needed to shake things up. you on the other hand love your authoritarian war mongering run of the mill politician and it shows.

i don't own a trump hat, i've never tried to convince anyone to vote for him, i don't attend rallies or get togethers, and i fucking voted obama in twice.

go lay in your bunk bed and read some more mother goose you fucking fool.

[spurraider21]

this is the shit that cracks me up... the hyperbole, fairytale, weak fucks like yourself SR. i don't care either way tbh and trump was nothing more than a bull in a china shop(literally) who was needed to shake things up. you on the other hand love your authoritarian war mongering run of the mill politician and it shows.

i don't own a trump hat, i've never tried to convince anyone to vote for him, i don't attend rallies or get togethers, and i fucking voted obama in twice.

go lay in your bunk bed and read some more mother goose you fucking fool.
you're malding, dude

[koriwhat]

you're malding, dude

i'm sitting here literally smh at your dumbass blowing shit out of proportion so you can pat yourself on the back. nothing's changed thus far and i'm not angry about any of what has transpired during the election. we'll see what happens but hey as long as the senate is still GOP you fucking commies ain't winning shit!

[spurraider21]

i'm sitting here literally smh at your dumbass blowing shit out of proportion so you can pat yourself on the back. nothing's changed thus far and i'm not angry about any of what has transpired during the election. we'll see what happens but hey as long as the senate is still GOP you fucking commies ain't winning shit!
:lol "fucking commies"
:lol "blowing shit out of proportion"

[koriwhat]

btw i looked up your stupid internet lingo word just now... you believe i'm angry and balding? again, hyperbole! anymore fairytales SR?

[koriwhat]

:lol "fucking commies"
:lol "blowing shit out of proportion"

ok fine instead of commies i'll just call you what you are... you're a pussy!

[DarrinS]

Nice. Making an enemies list.


1324807776510595078

[koriwhat]

Nice. Making an enemies list.


1324807776510595078

that bitch is a fucking commie from hell... a privileged one at that!

[RandomGuy]

A tree stump with a D painted on it could win in AOC's district.

Which is why it is fucking hilarious to see you morons spending ten million dollars on trying to defeat her.

" if we only screetch louder about communism, people will vote for us"

[spurraider21]

Nice. Making an enemies list.


1324807776510595078
accountability bad now

[RandomGuy]

Nice. Making an enemies list.

1324807776510595078

:cry macho Republicans fear of a 28 year old woman of color :cry

"enemies list" :rollin

Quit huffing OAN, its rotting your brain.

[spurraider21]

imagine if some republican compiled a list of democrats who ever supported the green new deal and people shit the bed and called it an "enemies list"

[Spurminator]

:lmao enemies list

[DMC]

This ad nauseum shtick is played out. Better posters have done it and moved on.

[pgardn]

imagine if some republican compiled a list of democrats who ever supported the green new deal and people shit the bed and called it an "enemies list"

Seriously though...

You have a guy like Trump who initiates the hate and the red team does not expect some sect of the blue team will not react and seek the kind of vengenance he encourages? "Look what the radical left has done to this country...." Well it works the other way. And if huge cracks on both sides develop, and large followings go maniacal, welcome to chaos.

[DarrinS]

The dude who runs this project, https://www.trumpaccountability.net , replied to her in a now deleted tweet.


"Yes, we are.

The Trump Accountability Project (@trumpaccproject)

Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone. https://t.co/PHx8v8GxOp

— Michael Simon (@mbsimon) November 6, 2020"

[DarrinS]

Lol, they updated the websIte and removed "See the List" button

https://web.archive.org/web/20201106212329/https://www.trumpaccountability.net/

[spurraider21]

The dude who runs this project, https://www.trumpaccountability.net , replied to her in a now deleted tweet.


"Yes, we are.

The Trump Accountability Project (@trumpaccproject)

Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone. https://t.co/PHx8v8GxOp

— Michael Simon (@mbsimon) November 6, 2020"
good

anybody who was complicit in this fuckface's attempt to kneecap our democratic elections should be exposed

[Neo.]

what never gets old is 30+ yr olds with multiple accounts on an internet message board as if you're 13 yrs old.

what's worse, having alts, or being the guy who gets so easily triggered by alts?

lol calf tats

[AaronY]

https://i.imgur.com/n1OEJws_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[IronMexican]

(adds subscription)

Hope so. Time to do something different.

I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.

Hope you keep your word

1% chance anyone at the level, or left of her win the primary in 2024

[IronMexican]

Different game entirely.

We step to the right and tell Dems they need to move towards the new center :lol

If this isn't fucking true.

4 years from now, we'll have another neocon on the other end and a lot of these same people are gonna hit us with the "most important election of our lifetime" speech

[SnakeBoy]

AOC said she might quit politics, as some centrist Democrats blame progressives for House losses
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-says-she-may-quit-politics-dems-blame-progressives-losses-2020-11

Sounds like the party of change is being mean to her

[Will Hunting]

AOC is doing the rounds in the media and trying to make headlines. I’m not sure what her agenda is but it’s getting pretty annoying. The whole thing about her quitting is a complete act.

[ElNono]

AOC is doing the rounds in the media and trying to make headlines. I’m not sure what her agenda is but it’s getting pretty annoying. The whole thing about her quitting is a complete act.

She's butthurt a centrist candidate won the presidency, tbh...

It's a double edged sword, tbh, on one hand, she and Queen Stacey bring out the most conservatard tears, on the other, she's turning in the Louie Ghomert of the Dem party.

[SnakeBoy]

AOC is doing the rounds in the media and trying to make headlines. I’m not sure what her agenda is but it’s getting pretty annoying. The whole thing about her quitting is a complete act.

I dunno, she could make some real bank outside of politics. More than Palin I bet.

[FrostKing]

You wouldn't have won without AOC/Adams guilt tripping submissive whites. Republicans have rednecks and Democrats have cucks

[Will Hunting]

She's butthurt a centrist candidate won the presidency, tbh...

It's a double edged sword, tbh, on one hand, she and Queen Stacey bring out the most conservatard tears, on the other, she's turning in the Louie Ghomert of the Dem party.
Louie Gohmert doesn’t create conflict within the GOP though. I’m fine with AOC calling out hacks like John Kasich for trying to take credit for Biden winning when Kasich did fuck all to help him win Ohio, but now is just about the worst time for party infighting. They should be addressing this stuff behind closed doors.

[spurraider21]

her interview from NYT:


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Biden’s Win, House Losses, and What’s Next for the LeftThe congresswoman said Joe Biden’s relationship with progressives would hinge on his actions. And she dismissed criticism from House moderates, calling some candidates who lost their races “sitting ducks.”




For months, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been a good soldier for the Democratic Party and Joseph R. Biden Jr. as he sought to defeat President Trump.


But on Saturday, in a nearly hourlong interview shortly after President-elect Biden was declared the winner, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez made clear the divisions within the party that animated the primary still exist. And she dismissed recent criticisms from some Democratic House members who have blamed the party’s left for costing them important seats. Some of the members who lost, she said, had made themselves “sitting ducks.”


These are edited excerpts from the conversation.


We finally have a fuller understanding of the results. What’s your macro takeaway?


Well, I think the central one is that we aren’t in a free fall to hell anymore. But whether we’re going to pick ourselves up or not is the lingering question. We paused this precipitous descent. And the question is if and how we will build ourselves back up.


We know that race is a problem, and avoiding it is not going to solve any electoral issues. We have to actively disarm the potent influence of racism at the polls.


But we also learned that progressive policies do not hurt candidates. Every single candidate that co-sponsored Medicare for All in a swing district kept their seat. We also know that co-sponsoring the Green New Deal was not a sinker. Mike Levin was an original co-sponsor of the legislation, and he kept his seat.


To your first point, Democrats lost seats in an election where they were expected to gain them. Is that what you are ascribing to racism and white supremacy at the polls?


I think it’s going to be really important how the party deals with this internally, and whether the party is going to be honest about doing a real post-mortem and actually digging into why they lost. Because before we even had any data yet in a lot of these races, there was already finger-pointing that this was progressives’ fault and that this was the fault of the Movement for Black Lives.


I’ve already started looking into the actual functioning of these campaigns. And the thing is, I’ve been unseating Democrats for two years. I have been defeating D.C.C.C.-run campaigns for two years. That’s how I got to Congress. That’s how we elected Ayanna Pressley. That’s how Jamaal Bowman won. That’s how Cori Bush won. And so we know about extreme vulnerabilities in how Democrats run campaigns.


Some of this is criminal. It’s malpractice. Conor Lamb spent $2,000 on Facebook the week before the election. I don’t think anybody who is not on the internet in a real way in the Year of our Lord 2020 and loses an election can blame anyone else when you’re not even really on the internet.


And I’ve looked through a lot of these campaigns that lost, and the fact of the matter is if you’re not spending $200,000 on Facebook with fund-raising, persuasion, volunteer recruitment, get-out-the-vote the week before the election, you are not firing on all cylinders. And not a single one of these campaigns were firing on all cylinders.


Well, Conor Lamb did win. So what are you saying: Investment in digital advertising and canvassing are a greater reason moderate Democrats lost than any progressive policy?


These folks are pointing toward Republican messaging that they feel killed them, right? But why were you so vulnerable to that attack?


If you’re not door-knocking, if you’re not on the internet, if your main points of reliance are TV and mail, then you’re not running a campaign on all cylinders. I just don’t see how anyone could be making ideological claims when they didn’t run a full-fledged campaign.


Our party isn’t even online, not in a real way that exhibits competence. And so, yeah, they were vulnerable to these messages, because they weren’t even on the mediums where these messages were most potent. Sure, you can point to the message, but they were also sitting ducks. They were sitting ducks.


There’s a reason Barack Obama built an entire national campaign apparatus outside of the Democratic National Committee. And there’s a reason that when he didn’t activate or continue that, we lost House majorities. Because the party — in and of itself — does not have the core competencies, and no amount of money is going to fix that.


If I lost my election, and I went out and I said: “This is moderates’ fault. This is because you didn’t let us have a floor vote on Medicare for all.” And they opened the hood on my campaign, and they found that I only spent $5,000 on TV ads the week before the election? They would laugh. And that’s what they look like right now trying to blame the Movement for Black Lives for their loss.


Is there anything from Tuesday that surprised you? Or made you rethink your previously held views?


The share of white support for Trump. I thought the polling was off, but just seeing it, there was that feeling of realizing what work we have to do.


We need to do a lot of anti-racist, deep canvassing in this country. Because if we keep losing white shares and just allowing Facebook to radicalize more and more elements of white voters and the white electorate, there’s no amount of people of color and young people that you can turn out to offset that.


But the problem is that right now, I think a lot of Dem strategy is to avoid actually working through this. Just trying to avoid poking the bear. That’s their argument with defunding police, right? To not agitate racial resentment. I don’t think that is sustainable.


There’s a lot of magical thinking in Washington, that this is just about special people that kind of come down from on high. Year after year, we decline the idea that they did work and ran sophisticated operations in favor of the idea that they are magical, special people. I need people to take these goggles off and realize how we can do things better.


If you are the D.C.C.C., and you’re hemorrhaging incumbent candidates to progressive insurgents, you would think that you may want to use some of those firms. But instead, we banned them. So the D.C.C.C. banned every single firm that is the best in the country at digital organizing.


The leadership and elements of the party — frankly, people in some of the most important decision-making positions in the party — are becoming so blinded to this anti-activist sentiment that they are blinding themselves to the very assets that they offer.


I’ve been begging the party to let me help them for two years. That’s also the damn thing of it. I’ve been trying to help. Before the election, I offered to help every single swing district Democrat with their operation. And every single one of them, but five, refused my help. And all five of the vulnerable or swing district people that I helped secured victory or are on a path to secure victory. And every single one that rejected my help is losing. And now they’re blaming us for their loss.


So I need my colleagues to understand that we are not the enemy. And that their base is not the enemy. That the Movement for Black Lives is not the enemy, that Medicare for all is not the enemy. This isn’t even just about winning an argument. It’s that if they keep going after the wrong thing, I mean, they’re just setting up their own obsolescence.


What is your expectation as to how open the Biden administration will be to the left? And what is the strategy in terms of moving it?


I don’t know how open they’ll be. And it’s not a personal thing. It’s just, the history of the party tends to be that we get really excited about the grass roots to get elected. And then those communities are promptly abandoned right after an election.


I think the transition period is going to indicate whether the administration is taking a more open and collaborative approach, or whether they’re taking a kind of icing-out approach. Because Obama’s transition set a trajectory for 2010 and some of our House losses. It was a lot of those transition decisions — and who was put in positions of leadership — that really informed, unsurprisingly, the strategy of governance.


What if the administration is hostile? If they take the John Kasich view of who Joe Biden should be? What do you do?


Well, I’d be bummed, because we’re going to lose. And that’s just what it is. These transition appointments, they send a signal. They tell a story of who the administration credits with this victory. And so it’s going be really hard after immigrant youth activists helped potentially deliver Arizona and Nevada. It’s going to be really hard after Detroit and Rashida Tlaib ran up the numbers in her district.


It’s really hard for us to turn out nonvoters when they feel like nothing changes for them. When they feel like people don’t see them, or even acknowledge their turnout.


If the party believes after 94 percent of Detroit went to Biden, after Black organizers just doubled and tripled turnout down in Georgia, after so many people organized Philadelphia, the signal from the Democratic Party is the John Kasichs won us this election? I mean, I can’t even describe how dangerous that is.


You are diagnosing national trends. You’re maybe the most famous voice on the left currently. What can we expect from you in the next four years?


I don’t know. I think I’ll have probably more answers as we get through transition, and to the next term. How the party responds will very much inform my approach and what I think is going to be necessary.


The last two years have been pretty hostile. Externally, we’ve been winning. Externally, there’s been a ton of support, but internally, it’s been extremely hostile to anything that even smells progressive.


Is the party ready to, like, sit down and work together and figure out how we’re going to use the assets from everyone at the party? Or are they going to just kind of double down on this smothering approach? And that’s going to inform what I do.


Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years?


I genuinely don’t know. I don’t even know if I want to be in politics. You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn’t even know if I was going to run for re-election this year.


Really? Why?


It’s the incoming. It’s the stress. It’s the violence. It’s the lack of support from your own party. It’s your own party thinking you’re the enemy. When your own colleagues talk anonymously in the press and then turn around and say you’re bad because you actually append your name to your opinion.


I chose to run for re-election because I felt like I had to prove that this is real. That this movement was real. That I wasn’t a fluke. That people really want guaranteed health care and that people really want the Democratic Party to fight for them.


But I’m serious when I tell people the odds of me running for higher office and the odds of me just going off trying to start a homestead somewhere — they’re probably the same.

[SnakeBoy]

She's butthurt a centrist candidate won the presidency, tbh...

It's a double edged sword, tbh, on one hand, she and Queen Stacey bring out the most conservatard tears, on the other, she's turning in the Louie Ghomert of the Dem party.

lol No

We want them to be the face of the party.

[Will Hunting]

I dunno, she could make some real bank outside of politics. More than Palin I bet.
Yeah this could very well be a grift she’s laying the groundwork for, but that’s kinda what I’m saying about this whole :cry I’m gonna quit :cry thing being an act.

[spurraider21]

Louie Gohmert doesn’t create conflict within the GOP though. I’m fine with AOC calling out hacks like John Kasich for trying to take credit for Biden winning when Kasich did fuck all to help him win Ohio, but now is just about the worst time for party infighting. They should be addressing this stuff behind closed doors.
have to wonder if she'd have been this public if not for Spangerber's rant going public

imo seems like a direct response to that

[Brazil]

you have calf tats though

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

I wouldn’t really put Abrams in the same category as AOC. She’s definitely not a centrist but Jimmy Dore hates Stacey Abrams some for obscure reason I can’t remember.

[Bogie]

lol No

We want them to be the face of the party.


yeah you get a 3 for with them, they feed your fear, your racism, and your sexism

The sheeple, like yourself, can’t be scared by words you don’t understand. You need dark faces to scare you to be kept in line, even better they’re female, so your fear of women can be exploited, too.

[spurraider21]

I wouldn’t really put Abrams in the same category as AOC. She’s definitely not a centrist but Jimmy Dore hates Stacey Abrams some for obscure reason I can’t remember.
who the fuck cares about jimmy dore?

[Will Hunting]

have to wonder if she'd have been this public if not for Spangerber's rant going public

imo seems like a direct response to that
Agreed which is childish. She should try to address her issues with Spanbeger internally and behind closed doors.

Im not even sure if Spanberger was going after her or the squad.

[FrostKing]

yeah you get a 3 for with them, they feed your fear, your racism, and your sexism

The sheeple, like yourself, can’t be scared by words you don’t understand. You need dark faces to scare you to be kept in line, even better they’re female, so your fear of women can be exploited, too.
AOC dropped the race card on your own party in response

[spurraider21]

Agreed which is childish. She should try to address her issues with Spanbeger internally and behind closed doors.

Im not even sure if Spanberger was going after her or the squad.
yeah... this kind of infighting doesnt look very good. at least now now right after an election

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah this could very well be a grift she’s laying the groundwork for, but that’s kinda what I’m saying about this whole :cry I’m gonna quit :cry thing being an act.

If higher office is her goal she would do well to not linger in the House too long. Quitting and starting a popular reality tv show might be the way to go.

[Will Hunting]

yeah... this kind of infighting doesnt look very good. at least now now right after an election
I’d be a lot more fine with it if we actually were past the election. AOC was talking about how she’s going to do everything to help out in the Georgia senate races, what shes doing now definitely isn’t helping.

[SnakeBoy]

yeah you get a 3 for with them, they feed your fear, your racism, and your sexism

The sheeple, like yourself, can’t be scared by words you don’t understand. You need dark faces to scare you to be kept in line, even better they’re female, so your fear of women can be exploited, too.

Don't you use sheeple! We claimed it!

[Bogie]

Don't you use sheeple! We claimed it!


Yes. Yes, you did. You guys claimed the title.

I am using it in the proper context and with the reverence that reference deserves in your world.

[Trainwreck2100]

She's butthurt a centrist candidate won the presidency, tbh...

It's a double edged sword, tbh, on one hand, she and Queen Stacey bring out the most conservatard tears, on the other, she's turning in the Louie Ghomert of the Dem party.
I'd say she's butthurt that liberal shit cost the Dems the house, but in her defense most of those seats were lost because it was Trump on the ballot. I can't imagine there would have been that many split ticket voters after impeachment. However i believe they do need to get rid of "defund the police" not the argument but call it something else before 2022



I’d be a lot more fine with it if we actually were past the election. AOC was talking about how she’s going to do everything to help out in the Georgia senate races, what shes doing now definitely isn’t helping.

Then she should shut her fucking mouth because if it's some things them good ol boys like it's beating on minorities and loud women, and she checks those two boxes. She's just trying to piggyback off Stacy the GOAT

[RD2191]

Do y'all actually believe Biden won the election because he's a Democrat or because of his policy? :lol He won because he's not Trump. A fucking broom with a hat on could've beat Trump this election. As for AOC I see nothing wrong with what she said. Shitting on progressives is getting old when it's clear most of the country support progressive policies.

[ElNono]

Louie Gohmert doesn’t create conflict within the GOP though. I’m fine with AOC calling out hacks like John Kasich for trying to take credit for Biden winning when Kasich did fuck all to help him win Ohio, but now is just about the worst time for party infighting. They should be addressing this stuff behind closed doors.

I don't know about that. Maybe Louie Gohmert doesn't confront openly with the party, but every time he opens his mouth and says something stupid, the party ends up having to spend time doing damage control.

I would hate to see AOC going that route, tbh

[Reck]

AOC needs to temper her expectations. She, like 100% of people that run think they can just change the system in 2 days.

She needs to take a page from Bernie. Guy spent 40 years to just get the recognition he has now. This country isn't going to change in her lifetime so she needs to adapt.

[ElNono]

lol No

We want them to be the face of the party.

But they aren't and are unlikely to be. Much like Bernie or what Ron Paul was to the GOP, they're there to scare the other side.

[ElNono]

I'd say she's butthurt that liberal shit cost the Dems the house, but in her defense most of those seats were lost because it was Trump on the ballot. I can't imagine there would have been that many split ticket voters after impeachment. However i believe they do need to get rid of "defund the police" not the argument but call it something else before 2022

I have no problem with her or anybody else pointing fingers, tbh... and I'm way more adept to her ideas than the Blue Dog shitstains. Just calling it how it see it, tbh

[Will Hunting]

I don't know about that. Maybe Louie Gohmert doesn't confront openly with the party, but every time he opens his mouth and says something stupid, the party ends up having to spend time doing damage control.

I would hate to see AOC going that route, tbh
Not really. A lot more people know who AOC is than Louie Gohmert. The only people who pay any attention to Louie Gohmert outside of his congressional district are liberals who are looking for ammunition to call conservatives stupid (which Gohmert regularly provides).

[SnakeBoy]

But they aren't and are unlikely to be. Much like Bernie or what Ron Paul was to the GOP, they're there to scare the other side.

That's what I meant, not that they will ever lead the party.

[Will Hunting]

So yeah, AOC has 10,000,000 followers on twitter. Gohmert has 3,800. Not sure the impact each of them have is comparable :lol

[ElNono]

So yeah, AOC has 10,000,000 followers on twitter. Gohmert has 3,800. Not sure the impact each of them have is comparable :lol

Fair point.

[Reck]

So yeah, AOC has 10,000,000 followers on twitter. Gohmert has 3,800. Not sure the impact each of them have is comparable :lol

Thanks to Fox News.

She'd be just another voiceless congresswoman without Fox nightly AOC+3 segments.

[RandomGuy]

Hope you keep your word

1% chance anyone at the level, or left of her win the primary in 2024

I doubt the Republican party will find someone as genuinely lazy, incompetent and corrupt as Trump. I mean as far as corruption goes they have a pretty deep bench. Not as deep when it comes to incompetant, but you never know, with them picking Qanon morons for congress they may get another trifecta.

Their electorate certainly seems to have a bottomless appetite for all three. Who knows what gets past the primaries.

[Reck]

AOC is like a crazed goat out there picking fight with every single moderate democrats she can. She needs to keep her feelings in check for now.

:lol Feuding with Joe Manchin now

Any other time I'd be in her corner on this one but she's sucking all the positive energy dems have right now with these lame fights.Way too much AOC news lately.

[Will Hunting]

AOC is like a crazed goat out there picking fight with every single moderate democrats she can. She needs to keep her feelings in check for now.

:lol Feuding with Joe Manchin now

Any other time I'd be in her corner on this one but she's sucking all the positive energy dems have right now with these lame fights.Way too much AOC news lately.
I understand the feuds with moderates like Feinstein, Manchin not so much. The mere fact Manchin is a vote for Schumer over McConnell as majority leader makes him infinitely better than any other senator we’d get from West Virginia.

[Will Hunting]

This feud is also stupid since Manchin was trying to HELP Ossoff and Warnock by saying even if they win there won’t be enough votes for any court packing. He made it so they could campaign on limiting McConnell’s power without facing as much backlash. The time for this feud is after the Democrats have 49 votes in favor of nuking the filibuster and need a 50th. Right now they don’t have votes 48 or 49 yet.

[Reck]

I understand the feuds with moderates like Feinstein, Manchin not so much. The mere fact Manchin is a vote for Schumer over McConnell as majority leader makes him infinitely better than any other senator we’d get from West Virginia.

Exactly. He's realiable when you need him to be. He can be republican lite all he wants but for the most part, he's voted along with democrats on some major stuff like not voting for handmaid's tale judge, Trump's impeachment on both counts, voting against most of Trump's shill appointments like Ratcliffe etc.

I actually liked what he said about not being for defunding the police. How and why that triggered AOC is puzzling.

[Will Hunting]

Exactly. He's realiable when you need him to be. He can be republican lite all he wants but for the most part, he's voted along with democrats on some major stuff like not voting for handmaid's tale judge, Trump's impeachment on both counts, voting against most of Trump's shill appointments like Ratcliffe etc.

I actually liked what he said about not being for defunding the police. How and why that triggered AOC is puzzling.
I also think he’s not as firmly against the filibuster as he leads on. All signs point to him not running again in 2024, and I think if McConnell is being totally obstructionist Manchin would come around to actually doing something with his last 4 years in the senate. In the meantime it’s politically smart for him to say he’s against it when they’re trying to pick up two senate seats in Georgia.