The Official VAR Is Doing Awesome Thread

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiM0sIf6Caw

Didn't think it was even a yellow card in real time.
But then they zoom in on a spike nicking a flopper's sock and it's a red. :lol

My apologies for this being MLS sheeot; but I thought it was interesting.
It's Nani anyhow.

[DAF86]

Spikes up right to the ankle of the rival, textbook red card. Maybe you can consider the fact he touched the ball first and settle it with a yellow, but the red card is perfectly understandable. I don't know what the fuck the commentators are on.

[Bynumite]

Unless Nani can defy the laws of physics, exactly how was he supposed to stop his forward momentum halfway through a sliding tackle to prevent contact? :lol

That was just follow through and natural motion. Tackles like this happen literally every game and it always comes down to if the player cleared the ball first, which Nani clearly did.

[Jodelo]

A yellow (at most) and move on.

[lefty]

There was no intent from Nani, he wanted to go for the ball, but if you replay it in very slow motion, you can see the referee was right

As DAF86 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11102) said that's the rule and it's a textbook red card

:lol but shit, only one camera angle? between this and the election count clusterfuck America is losing its lipstick

[Spurtacular]

Spikes up right to the ankle of the rival, textbook red card. Maybe you can consider the fact he touched the ball first and settle it with a yellow, but the red card is perfectly understandable. I don't know what the fuck the commentators are on.

I consider whether it was truly violent conduct as the law states. A nick on a player looking to draw the card does not rise to that level for me. Some refs might interpret that as the send-off offense of serious foul play; but I believe that intent and severity must be factored in.

I'm not making excuses for Nani's poor play. He's a vet and should know better frankly. Most times a spike to the ankle is worthy of the red. I think some refs even call that automatically; which is why he shouldn't be so stupid. But that is yellow card for unsporting behavior at worst for me.

[Spurtacular]

Unless Nani can defy the laws of physics, exactly how was he supposed to stop his forward momentum halfway through a sliding tackle to prevent contact? :lol

That was just follow through and natural motion. Tackles like this happen literally every game and it always comes down to if the player cleared the ball first, which Nani clearly did.

As far as it being a foul / card offense goes, they changed the law a couple years back so that it doesn't matter if you get the ball first if you're being reckless. But I gave my explanation in the above post for why I don't see it as a red card offense nonetheless.

[140]

VAR is cancer

[Spurtacular]

VAR is cancer

It's done more harm than good, tbh.

They should make any PK that isn't called in real time an indirect kick instead. That's how bad it is. :lol

[DAF86]

It's done more harm than good, tbh.

That's just not true. For any bad call from VAR, I can name you 10 others that VAR got right. The thing is that the bad calls get a lot more press.

[Spurtacular]

That's just not true. For any bad call from VAR, I can name you 10 others that VAR got right. The thing is that the bad calls get a lot more press.

Maybe if you're counting the confirmation calls, you can almost sort of make that case. But if we're counting non calls resulting in PK's upon review, then no. It's been disastrous. Too much ticky tack sh** getting called because a referee is trying to be averse to controversy or is otherwise just favoring a side in other cases.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30sgho5wY8

[Spurtacular]

Legit PK for WB overturned by VAR. A suspicious PK call for MU not overturned by VAR.

1-0 MU victory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih8sGlbuvRE

[Spurtacular]

Second goal. Another nick to a shinguard called for a PK.

If they're going to use VAR, they need to gauge real impact. This sh** is ruining the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKK4JnmY8MM

[Spurtacular]

SMH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUeI6F1jjo

[Spurtacular]

Liverpool getting charity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO0OT4epHNI

[Spurtacular]

No VAR, huh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlsd6agfj3c

[GAustex]

Could have been a foul
Henderson was slick in his nefarious way

[Spurtacular]

Could have been a foul
Henderson was slick in his nefarious way

It's hard to tell the intensity.
But H did appear to lower his shoulder and floor D.

[140]

My nigga DAF86 got a nice fat serving of VAR tonight tbh :lol

[DAF86]

My nigga DAF86 got a nice fat serving of VAR tonight tbh :lol

Hopefully this will quiet all the sports media in Argentina (all Bosta Juniors fans) about the Rivar story they made up, tbh. I guess they accomplished what they wanted.

[DAF86]

That's the second final River got robbed off being on, tbh. After 2017 vs Lanus. Still the best team in the Americas, tbh.

[140]

That's the second final River got robbed off being on, tbh. After 2017 vs Lanus. Still the best team in the Americas, tbh.
Wouldn't have mattered, Grêmio would've still made easy work out of anyone that year tbh

[DAF86]

Wouldn't have mattered, Grêmio would've still made easy work out of anyone that year tbh

Maybe, still doesn't change the fact that we got royally screwed that year, tbh.

[diego]

That's the second final River got robbed off being on, tbh. After 2017 vs Lanus. Still the best team in the Americas, tbh.

I saw the second half, how did you get robbed last night? According to you those fine offsides should be called, suarez was diving all night, ref was giving out cheap yellows to everyone... Only bad call was the goalie / diaz crash at the end but even then they had to make the penalty, play another 30 minutes and go to a shootout assuming no more goals.. or did something happen in the first leg that I didn't see?

IMO the Montiel goal should have stood because it was slight and no advantage was gained but whenever we've argued these situations you have always sided with a strict interpretation of offside, what is different now?

[DAF86]

I saw the second half, how did you get robbed last night? According to you those fine offsides should be called, suarez was diving all night, ref was giving out cheap yellows to everyone... Only bad call was the goalie / diaz crash at the end but even then they had to make the penalty, play another 30 minutes and go to a shootout assuming no more goals.. or did something happen in the first leg that I didn't see?

IMO the Montiel goal should have stood because it was slight and no advantage was gained but whenever we've argued these situations you have always sided with a strict interpretation of offside, what is different now?

-Rojas shouldn't have been sent off.
-Clear penalty over Diaz.

Those are the two clear mistakes.

Then, the Suarez penalty, even though I don't think it was a penalty, shouldn't have been reviewed by VAR. We have seen all competition long how VAR stays away from those appreciation type plays, you can't just suddenly start changing your modus operandi.

But whatever, it is what is. Hopefully, now, all the boca fans behind mics and cameras stop the bullshit Rivar narrative they started.

[diego]

The rojas yellow was one of many cheap cards the ref gave out last night, Palmeiras also got a bunch of them (including an egregious one from a suarez flop like 10 minutes before, almost the same play as the penalty dragging his feet and looking to dive).

And I don't get your argument over the suarez penalty, I've argued with you that the VAR is inconsistent in what they do and don't review and that makes it suspect and you argued that fixing a few bad calls is better than none, you are saying yourself it wasn't a penalty, so what's the problem? (For example, the penalty in the first 5 minutes against boca, no call on the field went back to review pk given, no call no review for the piola elbow vs Salvio un the first minute of the return match- don't remember you asking for consistency then)

Anyways I'll give gallardo credit for not crying about the refs this time, after all the things he said the past couple years it would have been extremely hypocritical to start complaining again now..

[Spurtacular]

Offside by an arm to lose a result?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0bsqT_KIiA

[Spurtacular]

Why even have VAR if you're gonna uphold something like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7zTt9ykUg&ab_channel=NBCSports

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgDXr4KeB-A

Probably a good call by the ref. Though the camera isn't high def enough to tell if she stomped and if so on purpose.

[Spurtacular]

This is my problem with VAR. Players have learned they can stall their foot and have it look like a foul on replay.
I've seen this happen time and time again now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdnZQP-AP1U&ab_channel=NBCSports

[Spurtacular]

Mbappe gets the ball, dribbles for twenty seconds, scores, and then they call offside.

He was offside by a yard and a half.

Enough of this "getting it right" sh**. Call it in real time if you're reasonably sure.