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ducks
11-07-2020, 10:34 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dreaded-two-years-biden-allies-210023127.html

clambake
11-07-2020, 10:37 PM
Hey.... it’s blue state ducks!

InRareForm
11-07-2020, 10:39 PM
Who cares trump lost hahaha

Blake
11-07-2020, 10:43 PM
I guess ducks has conceded

ducks
11-07-2020, 11:34 PM
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Spurtacular
11-10-2020, 06:23 AM
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Kurgan
11-10-2020, 06:45 AM
I guess ducks has conceded

Yup, he's accepted reality. Spurtacular is still stuck somewhere in between Denial and Anger.

https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/20831/pictures/2018/8/5-STAGES%20OF%20GRIEF-1.png

hater
11-10-2020, 07:52 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dreaded-two-years-biden-allies-210023127.html

President Biden. Not Trump.

Dirks_Finale
11-10-2020, 07:55 AM
Props to Joe Manchin for sliencing Schumer, AOC and all the crazies about court packing and ending the filibuster.

GA will likely split anyhow, making it 51-49 (R).

Will Hunting
11-10-2020, 08:01 AM
Props to Joe Manchin for sliencing Schumer, AOC and all the crazies about court packing and ending the filibuster.

GA will likely split anyhow, making it 51-49 (R).
I don’t see how GA splits. It’s gonna be the most polarizing senate election ever.

I also don’t get why conservatives love the filibuster so much. When either party is in power it should be able to do what it wants.

Dirks_Finale
11-10-2020, 08:13 AM
I don’t see how GA splits. It’s gonna be the most polarizing senate election ever.

I also don’t get why conservatives love the filibuster so much. When either party is in power it should be able to do what it wants.

Yeah, you may be right about GA.

Filibuster is necessary to prevent rididculous power grabs, tbh. Regardless of all the Supreme Court talk, it's 5-4 conservatives right now as Roberts is clearly a liberal. Clarence Thomas is older, so when dies, you replace him with a Liberal and you guys have the edge there, again.

If Biden is mentally competent for the next two years, we could see some decent progress going forward on stimulis, infrastructure and other issues. Glass half full mentality for 2021.

Will Hunting
11-10-2020, 08:18 AM
Yeah, you may be right about GA.

Filibuster is necessary to prevent rididculous power grabs, tbh. Regardless of all the Supreme Court talk, it's 5-4 conservatives right now as Roberts is clearly a liberal. Clarence Thomas is older, so when dies, you replace him with a Liberal and you guys have the edge there, again.

If Biden is mentally competent for the next two years, we could see some decent progress going forward on stimulis, infrastructure and other issues. Glass half full mentality for 2021.
Imo elections have consequences and the majority should be able to do what it wants. We’ve already nuked the filibuster for judges and cabinet appointments, and budget reconciliation doesn’t require 60 votes either. At this point it’s just a random and arbitrary rule in place for some things and not others. It would make more sense to require a 60% majority in the house if anything since that’s the chamber where it’s easier to build consensus.

:lmao Roberts being a liberal. No liberal would ever rule the voting rights act unconstitutional or that unlimited corporate PAC money = first amendment rights. Just because he isn’t a complete partisan hack like Alito or Thomas doesn’t make him a liberal. Your Overton window has just shifted so far to the right because of conservative talk radio and Tucker Carlson.

pgardn
11-10-2020, 08:35 AM
DirkF producing his own definition of liberal.
typical red team antics. The liberals don’t want him you take him.
unless he rules like a true liberal.

to be conservative means you are willing to ruin your country at the expense of being able to call yourself conservative.

there you go, chew on that definition

ducks
11-10-2020, 09:41 AM
Georgia Senate candidate Warnock was assistant pastor of church that hosted, praised Fidel Castro in 1995

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warnock-church-fidel-castro-1995

Dirks_Finale
11-10-2020, 09:59 AM
Considering the election results(Senate a push, + Reps in the house, over 70 million Trump votes) do you look at that and interpret it as a mandate to shift hard left?


Imo elections have consequences and the majority should be able to do what it wants. We’ve already nuked the filibuster for judges and cabinet appointments, and budget reconciliation doesn’t require 60 votes either. At this point it’s just a random and arbitrary rule in place for some things and not others. It would make more sense to require a 60% majority in the house if anything since that’s the chamber where it’s easier to build consensus.

:lmao Roberts being a liberal. No liberal would ever rule the voting rights act unconstitutional or that unlimited corporate PAC money = first amendment rights. Just because he isn’t a complete partisan hack like Alito or Thomas doesn’t make him a liberal. Your Overton window has just shifted so far to the right because of conservative talk radio and Tucker Carlson.

Dirks_Finale
11-10-2020, 10:01 AM
Just because he was appointed by a Republican, does not mean that he, himself, is one. Clearly he has voted straight ticket Democrat for the past 2 decades.


DirkF producing his own definition of liberal.
typical red team antics. The liberals don’t want him you take him.
unless he rules like a true liberal.

to be conservative means you are willing to ruin your country at the expense of being able to call yourself conservative.

there you go, chew on that definition

Will Hunting
11-10-2020, 10:07 AM
Considering the election results(Senate a push, + Reps in the house, over 70 million Trump votes) do you look at that and interpret it as a mandate to shift hard left?
Senate wasn’t a push, the Dems picked up at least one seat. I know the map favored the Dems but the Republicans picking up seats in 2018 thanks solely to a favorable map (10 incumbent Dems in states Trump won) didn’t stop them from using the same argument.

Either way, I think it’s a mandate for Biden’s platform, which isn’t hard left. The election is definitely a rebuke of the stupid far left ideas like defunding the police, but it’s pretty clear this country does want stuff like a $15 minimum wage (which received a 60% popular vote in a state that’s more or less trended from purple to red in the last 5 years) and climate change reform.

Will Hunting
11-10-2020, 10:15 AM
I’m also not sure why Trump getting over 70 million votes matters now when 4 years ago Republicans thought they had a mandate despite Hillary winning the popular vote. Biden is going to win the popular vote by over 5 million votes, maybe even closer to 6-7 million votes since NY IL and CA still have millions of votes to count.

Spurminator
11-10-2020, 10:40 AM
Considering the election results(Senate a push, + Reps in the house, over 70 million Trump votes) do you look at that and interpret it as a mandate to shift hard left?

When Republicans lose: "Democrats need to listen to the people who didn't vote for them."
When Republicans win: "We won, we get to do what we want."

Every single time.

boutons_deux
11-10-2020, 10:46 AM
When Republicans lose: "Democrats need to listen to the people who didn't vote for them."
When Republicans win: "We won, we get to do what we want."

Every single time.

prime example was Repugs winning in 2000, while dubya was elected by SCOTUS. dickhead said Repugs had a massive mandate to whatever they wanted.

First up? 2001 massive tax cut for the wealthy forced through Senate with reconciliation. (wealthy tax cut repeated in 2017)