Thoughts and Prayers: Ben Carson Tested Positive for Coronavirus

[Ef-man]

Will another prominent conservative bite the dust from a super spreader trump event?

Carson attended the election night party where White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and nearly every other attendee was not wearing a mask. Meadows and four others in Trump's orbit subsequently tested positive last week.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ben-carson-coronavirus/index.html

[Winehole23]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yGEDsJAECPo/Ti7qzH7jYrI/AAAAAAAAHTc/APARufQd6d4/s1600/apes15.jpg


Remember the bomb cult from Planet of the Apes?

Same thing, only with COVID. they're spreading it like gospel.

[Blake]

Carson might be the dumbest neurosurgeon ever

[hater]

Trump singlehandely genociding his own blacks tbqh

[Ef-man]

Rand Paul is giving him competition as far as being a medical professional fake:

“Over the weekend, the Courier-Journal in Louisville reported that Dr. Rand Paul, the Republican Senate nominee in Kentucky, is not a "board-certified" ophthalmologist according to the national clearinghouse for such certifications.

Now Paul is explaining his decision to let his recognized certification lapse as resulting from "the kind of hypocritical power play that I despise and have always fought against."

First some background: Paul's claim that he is a "board-certified" ophthalmologist is tied to his certification by the National Board of Ophthalmology.

Yet that's a group that Paul himself founded in 1999; he also serves as its head.

The organization that works with the American Medical Association to approve specialty boards of this nature, as the Courier-Journal notes, is called the American Board of Medical Specialties. And it does not recognize Paul's group.

Paul reportedly had certification from the American Board of Ophthalmology - a recognized group - before letting it lapse in favor of certification from the board he heads.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-pauls-addresses-ophthalmology-certification-questions/



Carson might be the dumbest neurosurgeon ever

[spurraider21]

carson is quite the enigma. brilliant neurosurgeon who doesnt believe in the theory of evolution

[pgardn]

carson is quite the enigma. brilliant neurosurgeon who doesnt believe in the theory of evolution

You would be surprised how many doctors of medicine dont.
They are required to memorize a bunch of parts and know how they work together.
There is no need to go any deeper than this.

The most interesting thing is some actually believe in the perfection of the body through our creator and then they go look at the human body and cant explain why our retina is backwards therefore "requiring" a blind spot. There are so many things in the human body that are clearly not needed or are altered vestiges of the past and dont look perfect at all. They dont need to know this to be a doctor. But when you bring up the perfection factor... they stutter and stammer and yield to the mysterious ways of our Lord in his perfection of making us.

[spurraider21]

You would be surprised how many doctors of medicine dont.
They are required to memorize a bunch of parts and know how they work together.
There is no need to go any deeper than this.

The most interesting thing is some actually believe in the perfection of the body through our creator and then they go look at the human body and cant explain why our retina is backwards therefore "requiring" a blind spot. There are so many things in the human body that are clearly not needed or are altered vestiges of the past and dont look perfect at all. They dont need to know this to be a doctor. But when you bring up the perfection factor... they stutter and stammer and yield to the mysterious ways of our Lord in his perfection of making us.
yeah but going into medicine still involves a degree of commitment to the scientific method :lol

[florige]

Carson might be the dumbest neurosurgeon ever

[Chris Fall]

Donald Trump has done more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln, including killing off the Republican ones.

[pgardn]

yeah but going into medicine still involves a degree of commitment to the scientific method :lol

He probably was very good at doing a very specific type of work that requires memory smarts and steady hands. He probably saw ways to do things better after doing the same stuff every day. imo the really "smart" guys in science have other hobbies and interests outside of science that involves the arts, photography, Chess, old cars, whatever... Guys whose interests go beyond what they grind through everyday. And medical doctors do have a lot of grinding to do. People who are in careers that require a bunch of school usually are good at seeing all sorts of parallels between things or just for the fun of it, or break down comparisons that just dont work.

They think and are passionate about things other than what they do for a living.

[DMC]

Chief of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins for 20 years vs " This probably isn’t the place to air my grievances" :lol

[DMC]

Carson became the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Children’s Center in 1984 at age 33; he was the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the United States.[6] At retirement, he was professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery, and pediatrics at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.[7] Carson's achievements include performing the only successful separation of conjoined twins joined at the back of the head; performing the first successful neurosurgical procedure on a fetus inside the womb; performing the first completely successful separation of type-2 vertical craniopagus twins; developing new methods to treat brain-stem tumors; and revitalizing hemispherectomy techniques for controlling seizures.[8][9][6][10] He wrote over 100 neurosurgical publications. He retired from medicine in 2013


Getting COVID makes you dumb now. The new scarlet letter..

[ChumpDumper]

Being dumb can get you COVID.

Ben was dumb.

He got COVID.

It proves he was dumb in the first place.

[Ef-man]

And your lucky numbers are 86 45 11 03 20 01 20 21

:tu

[spurraider21]

Being dumb can get you COVID.

Ben was dumb.

He got COVID.

It proves he was dumb in the first place.
doesnt prove he was dumb unless your premise is that only dumb people get covid

[ChumpDumper]

doesnt prove he was dumb unless your premise is that only dumb people get covid
It's not.

If he got it where it is said he got it, he's dumb.

People going into those situations by choice are dumb.

My dumb FB friends were dumb to get COVID at a house party.

My FB friend who got it working at Costco in April was not.

[DMC]

Calling the most brilliant brain surgeon in the world dumb is dumb in and of itself. Compare your accomplishments and lot in life to his. Plus you have all that white privilege going for you.

[spurraider21]

Calling the most brilliant brain surgeon in the world dumb is dumb in and of itself. Compare your accomplishments and lot in life to his. Plus you have all that white privilege going for you.
you could be smart in some ways and dumb in some ways. i think being a creationist neurosurgeon captures that quite well

[Dirks_Finale]

We've had a mask mandate in TX since July, correct? I guess nobody in El Paso follows that order since they get like 3,000 cases per day? Or maybe microscopic viruses are going to virus regardless of our cute, cloth Biden masks.

[Blake]

Calling the most brilliant brain surgeon in the world dumb is dumb in and of itself. Compare your accomplishments and lot in life to his. Plus you have all that white privilege going for you.

You have to be a complete moron to hang out at a party where half the people aren't wearing masks.

You have to be a complete idiot not to understand that.

[Chris]

Stay classy ST

[Blake]

you could be smart in some ways and dumb in some ways. i think being a creationist neurosurgeon captures that quite well

No no but Trump was smart enough to become rich and president therefore you can never call him dumb about anything at all ever.

[Blake]

Stay classy ST

Stay fake, Chris

[Dirks_Finale]

you could be smart in some ways and dumb in some ways. i think being a creationist neurosurgeon captures that quite well

He's obviously an intelligent guy. Never understood placing a neurosurgeon in charge of HUD, though.

[hater]

Calling the most brilliant brain surgeon in the world dumb is dumb in and of itself. Compare your accomplishments and lot in life to his. Plus you have all that white privilege going for you.

What a dumb post

[Blake]

He's obviously an intelligent guy. Never understood placing a neurosurgeon in charge of HUD, though.

5D chess move by genius leader

[Chris Fall]

Being brilliant in one field does not prevent a person from being dumb in another field. Albert Einstein was a dumbass when it came to personal hygiene. He smoked random discarded cigarette butts off the ground, ate bugs off the dirt, and never wore socks. Brilliant man, still dumb about hygiene.

[hater]

He's obviously an intelligent guy. Never understood placing a neurosurgeon in charge of HUD, though.

Depends what kind of intelligence.

Eistein was pretty smart. But his wife had to dress him every day.

Seems this Carson fella is on the same line of idiot savant types.

[hater]

Being brilliant in one field does not prevent a person from being dumb in another field. Albert Einstein was a dumbass when it came to personal hygiene. He smoked random discarded cigarette butts off the ground, ate bugs off the dirt, and never wore socks. Brilliant man, still dumb about hygiene.

Wtf

[baseline bum]

Wtf

Also fucked his first cousin. And married her.

[ChumpDumper]

Calling the most brilliant brain surgeon in the world dumb is dumb in and of itself. Compare your accomplishments and lot in life to his. Plus you have all that white privilege going for you.I accomplished not getting COVID by taking the simplest of precautions.

He's fucking dumb.

[ChumpDumper]

What a dumb postHe's dumb.

[DMC]

Yes the word Einstein is synonymous with stupidity.

[DMC]

you could be smart in some ways and dumb in some ways. i think being a creationist neurosurgeon captures that quite well

Isn't Joe Biden a creationist?

[spurraider21]

Isn't Joe Biden a creationist?
no idea

if so, then he's also dumb in that way

see how easy it is?

[DMC]

no idea

if so, then he's also dumb in that way

see how easy it is?

I think there's a difference between being eccentric and being dumb.. I think being dumb means they know what's right and do the wrong thing anyhow.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC admits Carson is dumb after all.

[Blake]

DMC admits Carson is dumb after all.

DMC is a real Einstein

[spurraider21]

I think there's a difference between being eccentric and being dumb.. I think being dumb means they know what's right and do the wrong thing anyhow.
such as somebody who was educated in college and grad school about how biology works and knowingly dismissing some of the foundations of it because invisible man in the sky?

he's not just some ignorant guy who grew up believing and died believing without ever learning basic science

[Blake]

such as somebody who was educated in college and grad school about how biology works and knowingly dismissing some of the foundations of it because invisible man in the sky?

he's not just some ignorant guy who grew up believing and died believing without ever learning basic science

I mean, did Carson never wear a mask during surgery?

[ElNono]

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[Ef-man]

Never read anything on this but it sounds like something qchris would say.

As a catholic, biden should be ok with evolution.



Isn't Joe Biden a creationist?

[pgardn]

Isn't Joe Biden a creationist?

Not if he follows the Catholic Church.
Officially the Catholic Church has no problem with science and Evolution.
What makes man special is the interjection of the soul, which is not a topic for science to take on.
The Catholics are correct. Science has nothing to say about the supernatural that cant be tested. You cant use supernatural explanations in science.

[DMC]

such as somebody who was educated in college and grad school about how biology works and knowingly dismissing some of the foundations of it because invisible man in the sky?

If he believes in God and lives as if he does, how is it dumb? Wouldn't it be dumb if he believed in God and lived as if he didn't, or didn't believe in God but lived as if he did?


he's not just some ignorant guy who grew up believing and died believing without ever learning basic science

So you think theists can't remain theist if they are educated without them actually being "dumb"? That sounds like a divisive, closed minded outlook. I'm sorry this is happening to you, and I am an atheist so you cannot accuse me of being a Christian apologist.

[DMC]

Not if he follows the Catholic Church.
Officially the Catholic Church has no problem with science and Evolution.
What makes man special is the interjection of the soul, which is not a topic for science to take on.
The Catholics are correct. Science has nothing to say about the supernatural that cant be tested. You cant use supernatural explanations in science.

Well there's that thing about invisible guy in the sky and Genesis and the resurrection and all that, but those are obviously side issues.

You wish to assert a person can be a Christian and not believe God created the universe, destroyed the Earth with a great flood, Jesus rose from the dead and absolved the sins of man to his own Father?

Don't get stupid trying to win.

[pgardn]

such as somebody who was educated in college and grad school about how biology works and knowingly dismissing some of the foundations of it because invisible man in the sky?

he's not just some ignorant guy who grew up believing and died believing without ever learning basic science

He can still get his particular job done very well. He is a specialist.

But lets say we could possibly use a mild immunosuppressor to transplant organs cross species to humans.

If big Ben starts transplanting organs, and refuses to use primates as donors for humans and opts instead for reptiles, because he does not think it matters... Then I think we have a huge problem with his background.

[DMC]

Never read anything on this but it sounds like something qchris would say.

As a catholic, biden should be ok with evolution.

It's a touchy subject with Catholics because they got embarrassed. They are ok with pedophile priests.

[pgardn]

Well there's that thing about invisible guy in the sky and Genesis and the resurrection and all that, but those are obviously side issues.

You wish to assert a person can be a Christian and not believe God created the universe, destroyed the Earth with a great flood, Jesus rose from the dead and absolved the sins of man to his own Father?

Don't get stupid trying to win.

Im telling you what the Catholic Church stance is dumb ass...
You dont like it, talk with the pope.

Change that You.

[DMC]

He can still get his particular job done very well. He is a specialist.

But lets say we could possibly use a mild immunosuppressor to transplant organs cross species to humans.

If big Ben starts transplanting organs, and refuses to use primates as donors for humans and opts instead for reptiles, because he does not think it matters... Then I think we have a huge problem with his background.

I think they are getting close to transplanting pig organs now. Clambake look out, they could be coming for your organs.

[DMC]

A smart person can do something stupid. It doesn't make that person stupid. Calling Ben Carson dumb is really reaching, especially if you're Blake.

[pgardn]

I think they are getting close to transplanting pig organs now. Clambake look out, they could be coming for your organs.

Well excellent.
My example used reptiles.

Do you understand the point?

And the pig thing is a matter of size and the fact they are mammals both of which are important.

[DMC]

Im telling you what the Catholic Church stance is dumb ass...
You dont like it, talk with the pope.

Change that You.

Biden isn't the Pope or Catholic church.

[pgardn]

Biden isn't the Pope or Catholic church.

Oh well how bout that. Thanks for the insight.
He is Catholic.
If he goes by the Catholic Church view, then this is where he sits.
You can tell him he was not elected Pope. Im sure he will be surprised.

[Blake]

A smart person can do something stupid. It doesn't make that person stupid. Calling Ben Carson dumb is really reaching, especially if you're Blake.

This is November, not March. If you're a doctor to boot, and you still knowingly play these stupid games, you're ridiculously dumb.

"Carson told The Washington Post on Monday that he caught coronavirus "probably somewhere, out there in the universe" but added that he could not be sure of when he was exposed.

"I was on a bus tour last week. I was at the White House on election night, so there are multiple possibilities," he said, according to the Post....."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525197-ben-carson-says-there-are-multiple-possibilities-for-how-he-got-covid

[Blake]

:lol it's always funny to watch DMC go into spin mode like this tho

[DMC]

Oh well how bout that. Thanks for the insight.
He is Catholic.
If he goes by the Catholic Church view, then this is where he sits.
You can tell him he was not elected Pope. Im sure he will be surprised.

You tell him, you just got the news obviously.

[DMC]

This is November, not March. If you're a doctor to boot, and you still knowingly play these stupid games, you're ridiculously dumb.

"Carson told The Washington Post on Monday that he caught coronavirus "probably somewhere, out there in the universe" but added that he could not be sure of when he was exposed.

"I was on a bus tour last week. I was at the White House on election night, so there are multiple possibilities," he said, according to the Post....."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525197-ben-carson-says-there-are-multiple-possibilities-for-how-he-got-covid

So he cannot have contracted it while wearing a mask?

Or are you saying if he ever went without one, it must have been that time?

Or are you saying if he ever removed his mask, he deserved it regardless of when he got it?

What are you saying, Blake?

[Blake]

So you cannot get it while wearing a mask?

Or are you saying if you ever went without one, it must have been that time?

Or are you saying if you ever went without one, you deserved it regardless when you got it?

What are you saying, Blake?

I'm saying he's dumb. How are you grossly misreading what I'm saying that badly to infer all of that?

[DMC]

:lol it's always funny to watch DMC go into spin mode like this tho

It's always sad to see simpletons like you pretend the ROTW thinks like you.

[Blake]

It's always sad to see simpletons like you pretend the ROTW thinks like you.

You're pretty dumb.

[spurraider21]

If he believes in God and lives as if he does, how is it dumb? Wouldn't it be dumb if he believed in God and lived as if he didn't, or didn't believe in God but lived as if he did?


So you think theists can't remain theist if they are educated without them actually being "dumb"? That sounds like a divisive, closed minded outlook. I'm sorry this is happening to you, and I am an atheist so you cannot accuse me of being a Christian apologist.
you can be an atheist and still engage in christian apologencia if you are doing so to defend a conservative figure. this is right next to "i cant be racist because i'm black"

i think you can be a theist and still believe in evolution. not every christian/theist is a young earth creationist. if you believe in that stuff despite having having been exposed to and learned of the prevailing scientific theory on the subject, then you know whats right and are doing the wrong thing anyhow

[pgardn]

You tell him, you just got the news obviously.

I got the news he was Pope?
Thanks to the editor of TIME magazine.
who would have known without DMCirleOfTrust.

You must enjoy being mocked.
Keep going old man.

[pgardn]

you can be an atheist and still engage in christian apologencia if you are doing so to defend a conservative figure. this is right next to "i cant be racist because i'm black"

i think you can be a theist and still believe in evolution. not every christian/theist is a young earth creationist. if you believe in that stuff despite having having been exposed to and learned of the prevailing scientific theory on the subject, then you know whats right and are doing the wrong thing anyhow

This is where some theists who believe in Evolution started the intelligent design thing.
If you dont believe in evolution you believe every living thing was specially created.
An intelligent design believer will just let evolution play out as God's mechanism. With the caveat we were meant to be here and we are the ultimate purpose of God, the intelligent designer.

[spurraider21]

This is where some theists who believe in Evolution started the intelligent design thing.
If you dont believe in evolution you believe every living thing was specially created.
An intelligent design believer will just let evolution play out as God's mechanism. With the caveat we were meant to be here and we are the ultimate purpose of God, the intelligent designer.
not really. intelligent design is literally creationism except it doesnt specifically invoke the christian bible. it still rejects evolution and says species were created more or less in their current form. but not by "god"... by some "intelligent designer" whoever that may be

was exposed as creationism in disguise in federal court, in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

[pgardn]

not really. intelligent design is literally creationism except it doesnt specifically invoke the christian bible. it still rejects evolution and says species were created more or less in their current form. but not by "god"... by some "intelligent designer" whoever that may be

was exposed as creationism in disguise in federal court, in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

Ive talked to the wrong intelligent designers then.
The Christians I know who believe evolution occurred say it was always a part of gods plan, but that new species arise from other species. I guess one could say a miracle occurred when one species split into two species, one of which was like the original but the other very different (or one of the many other versions as well). There are so many thoughts on the mechanisms of speciation, but it still ultimately is driven by a plan I guess. And there are different types of speciation so this can get very muddled.

Or I guess one could say a modified version of intelligent design exists.
Evolution basically says you are derived from your ancestors and not specially created. So I dont know how that works in with an over all miraculous plan that employs natural selection and other biological mechanisms.

[spurraider21]

Ive talked to the wrong intelligent designers then.
The Christians I know who believe evolution occurred say it was always a part of gods plan, but that new species arise from other species. I guess one could say a miracle occurred when one species split into two species, one of which was like the original but the other very different (or one of the many other versions as well). There are so many thoughts on the mechanisms of speciation, but it still ultimately is driven by a plan I guess. And there are different types of speciation so this can get very muddled.

Or I guess one could say a modified version of intelligent design exists.
Evolution basically says you are derived from your ancestors and not specially created. So I dont know how that works in with an over all miraculous plan that employs natural selection and other biological mechanisms.
thats what most scientist who hold onto their christian faith believe... they make room for prevailing scientific theory. but that's not "intelligent design" per se

[Winehole23]

thats what most scientist who hold onto their christian faith believe... they make room for prevailing scientific theory. but that's not "intelligent design" per seThomism assigns different objects to faith and science, they vary schematically. Faith takes belief and and science takes reason. There's a refuge, if a squishy one, for science in mainline RC.

(Of course, Thomism also theorizes the harmony of faith and reason, the priors sort of guarantee it.)

[pgardn]

thats what most scientist who hold onto their christian faith believe... they make room for prevailing scientific theory. but that's not "intelligent design" per se

It did not sound like it based on the case you put up.

[spurraider21]

It did not sound like it based on the case you put up.
that case is not representative of "most scientists"

that case was about fundamentalist christians in the area trying to shoehorn creationism into the science classroom under the guise of "intelligent design" to avoid first amendment issues

[hater]

DMC is a real Einstein

Hes Einstein without the Physics skills :lol

[tholdren]

Carson might be the dumbest neurosurgeon ever

Loloolloolooooo

More likely to die snorkeling in the desert than from covid

[Blake]

Foldren is also pretty dumb

[tholdren]

Loloolloolooooo

More likely to die snorkeling in the desert than from covid

Ifr for ben Carson. Less than flu.


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[ElNono]

Ifr for ben Carson. Less than flu.


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foldren folds

[Ef-man]

More trumpers getting covid. This time lead for campaign legal challenges.


An adviser for President Donald Trump's campaign, David Bossie, has tested positive for coronavirus only days after he was tapped to oversee the campaign's legal challenges contesting the outcome of the election, two sources confirmed to CNN.

Bossie did not immediately respond to a request for comment. He has been in the campaign headquarters in Virginia several times in the last week and has also traveled extensively.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/david-bossie-coronavirus/index.html