Joe Biden Is Not Legally The Presidential Elect

[Spurtacular]

This is very irresponsible behavior from a well-known con man.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5fa9a66e21e8d0 a9c8379446%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D3000% 26cropY1%3D153%26cropY2%3D1840

Also :lol at no longer having to wear those masks.

:lmao Dumb whores

[ChumpDumper]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-small.gif

[Spurtacular]

:cry

You not going to call it fake news? You don't like calling out the fake news suddenly?

:lmao :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

You not going to call it fake news? You don't like calling out the fake news suddenly?

:lmao :rollinWhat made Dennison legally the president-elect?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

What made Dennison legally the president-elect?

Explain.

Is Joe Biden legally the President-Elect?

Yes or no.

[FrostKing]

This is very irresponsible behavior from a well-known con man.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5fa9a66e21e8d0 a9c8379446%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D3000% 26cropY1%3D153%26cropY2%3D1840

Also :lol at no longer having to wear those masks.

This is cute. Filming a TV show while Trump defeats Covid.

[Spurtacular]

This is cute. Filming a TV show while Trump defeats Covid.

:lmao :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Is Joe Biden legally the President-Elect?

Yes or no.I don't know that it's a legal designation, derp.

What do you say makes it legal?

[Spurtacular]

I don't know that it's a legal designation, derp.

What do you say makes it legal?

The elected need receive the required 270 electors officially from the various number of states.

Biden has not received any. He is currently being quite reckless by granting himself that title.

[ChumpDumper]

The elected need receive the required 270 electors officially from the various number of states.

Biden has not received any. He is currently being quite reckless by granting himself that title.So according to you Trump was being reckless for weeks calling himself the president-elect since he received no electoral votes for that time after the election?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

So according to you Trump was being reckless for weeks calling himself the president-elect since he received no electoral votes for that time after the election?

Yes or no.

I don't think he was being reckless; it was quite clear that he was the winner of the 2016 election. I don't think that 2020 is clear for Biden at all given the high levels of impropriety.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think he was being reckless; it was quite clear that he was the winner of the 2016 election. I don't think that 2020 is clear for Biden at all given the high levels of impropriety.Every single instance of "impropriety" you have listed has been proved to be utterly false.

Your lies do not change reality.

Trump lost.

Biden is president-elect.

It's quite clear Biden is the winner of the 2020 election.

Legally.

There's nothing you can do about it.

Because you're derp.

[Spurtacular]

Every single instance of "impropriety" you have listed has been proved to be utterly false.

Your lies do not change reality.

Trump lost.

Biden is president-elect.

It's quite clear Biden is the winner of the 2020 election.

Legally.

There's nothing you can do about it.

Because you're derp.

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Every single instance of "impropriety" you have listed has been proved to be utterly false.

Your lies do not change reality.

Trump lost.

Biden is president-elect.

It's quite clear Biden is the winner of the 2020 election.

Legally.

There's nothing you can do about it.

Because you're derp.

I just told you the legal definition. Biden does not hit it. Gawd, you're dumb.

[ChumpDumper]

I just told you the legal definition.So you're saying Trump was reckless calling himself president-elect before he got a single vote.:tu

It wasn't legal according to you.

There is no middle ground.

[ElNono]

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[baseline bum]

damn even foldren isn't as unhinged as derp right now

[baseline bum]

i thought he flipped out over biggest casket since Taft, but god damn

[Blake]

This is very irresponsible behavior from a well-known con man.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5fa9a66e21e8d0 a9c8379446%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D3000% 26cropY1%3D153%26cropY2%3D1840

Also :lol at no longer having to wear those masks.

:lmao Dumb whores

It's November and derp still doesn't understand how the masks work

[Ef-man]

Derp and qchrisy have seriously lost their minds in alternate facts by believing all the MAGAtard shit.

Agree with Elnono that they will soon come to terms with loss or they will off themselves.

That is what you get when you drink heavily from trump koolaid.

But before they come to term or off themselves, trump will ask for some donation support from them.





It's November and derp still doesn't understand how the masks work

[Spurtacular]

So you're saying Trump was reckless calling himself president-elect before he got a single vote.:tu

It wasn't legal according to you.

There is no middle ground.

He accepted that he was the apparent winner. He didn't go around doing organized events with printed banners saying 'Office Of The President Elect' when even RCP hasn't called the election for him yet. That's just sad. :lmao

Nice whataboutism btw. Sad.

[Spurtacular]

It's November and derp still doesn't understand how the masks work

Tell us about it, board cuckold. Is your contention that COVID only flies 6 feet and not an inch further?

[ChumpDumper]

He accepted that he was the apparent winner. He didn't go around doing organized events with printed banners saying 'Office Of The President Elect' when even RCP hasn't called the election for him yet. That's just sad. :lmao

Nice whataboutism btw. Sad.
Biden accepted that he's the apparent winner.

Your crying won't stop it.

Dennison's crying won't stop it.

You lost.

You are derp.

lol

[Winehole23]

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[ElNono]

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Commies

[Kurgan]

Most of the world leaders have already accepted him as the next president. It's time for MAGA land to move on.

[Spurtacular]

Chumpettes desperately breaking out alts. :lol

[ElNono]

Chumpettes desperately breaking out alts. :lol

sup Bleke

[Spurtacular]

sup Bleke

I didn't say funnily; I said desperately.

[ElNono]

I didn't say funnily; I said desperately.

ok Therapist

[Rummpd]

The truth is somewhat in the middle, there is probably legally yet no such thing as the "Office of the President Elect", but Biden has won unless an unexpected series of successful DT legal challenge victories prove otherwise. In reality it also looks somewhat like a Hollywood Squares production. That being said, will say as a public health doctor I have met some of the 12 on the task force and they are pretty capable at what they do and regardless of politics getting experts together is probably not a bad thing but until 20 Jan will no legal say.

[Spurtacular]

The truth is somewhat in the middle, there is probably legally yet no such thing as the "Office of the President Elect", but Biden has won unless an unexpected series of successful DT legal challenge victories prove otherwise. In reality it also looks somewhat like a Hollywood Squares production. That being said, will say as a public health doctor I have met some of the 12 on the task force and they are pretty capable at what they do and regardless of politics getting experts together is probably not a bad thing but until 20 Jan will no legal say.

Not even counting all the court challenges, GA, WI, AZ going to recounts. If and when Trump wins them, he'll be at 269; and he wins the tie breaker. This isn't even taking into account MI, PA, big court wins, Supreme Court, etc. Trump's odds according to lefty PredictIt went from 10 percent before the election to 17 percent now. :lol

And president-elect is a legal distinction based upon receiving the required number of electors. Biden has no problem being a bold-faced liar. This is not new.

[Rummpd]

Not even counting all the court challenges, GA, WI, AZ going to recounts. If and when Trump wins them, he'll be at 269; and he wins the tie breaker. This isn't even taking into account MI, PA, big court wins, Supreme Court, etc. Trump's odds according to lefty PredictIt went from 10 percent before the election to 17 percent now. :lol

And president-elect is a legal distinction based upon receiving the required number of electors. Biden has no problem being a bold-faced liar. This is not new.

I am not an expert on constitutional law but based on what I have read I believe it is December after the electors meet when he can legally state that he has won - the reality is who is going to stop him?

[Spurtacular]

I am not an expert on constitutional law but legally I believe it is December after the electors meet when he can legally state that it - the problem is who is going to stop him?

If it was Trump in his shoes, big corp media would be kicking and screaming. The American people know though. We don't really worry much about the enemy of the people's feelings at this point.

[Rummpd]

If it was Trump in his shoes, big corp media would be kicking and screaming. The American people know though. We don't really worry much about the enemy of the people's feelings at this point.

The President's team has only a limited time to seek the right legal remedy needed to at least put a brake on things. Each day that passes favors the status quo so they do not have much time.

[Spurtacular]

Trump's team has not so far been seemingly effective communicating their side or has not sought the right legal remedy needed to at least put a brake on things. Each day that passes favors the status quo so they do not have much time.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRPp0gDRULm4-jRjV5pT5aGcI2SaIgscpRuIQ&usqp=CAU

Wait for it...

[Rummpd]

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Wait for it...


My point is that this is a battle will be fought on two fronts:

1. In the media and other communications
2. In the courts

Any effort to over turn this to have any chance to succeed has to get some momentum soon (at least a stay) in #2 and at least hold his own in #1 IMO.

[Dirks_Finale]

I am not an expert on constitutional law but based on what I have read I believe it is December after the electors meet when he can legally state that he has won - the reality is who is going to stop him?

Right.

So the difference between now and 2016 is that Hillary conceded. So at that point, Trump became the assumed POTUS-elect.

Since Trump has not conceded, Biden is not the POTUS-elect, yet.

[RandomGuy]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-funny-puppets-blue-red-gif-16858905.gif

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Right.

So the difference between now and 2016 is that Hillary conceded. So at that point, Trump became the assumed POTUS-elect.

Since Trump has not conceded, Biden is not the POTUS-elect, yet.

:cry he hasn't conceded :cry

Cry harder.

[Dirks_Finale]

:cry he hasn't conceded :cry

Cry harder.

WTF are you even talking about :lol

Stating facts is not crying. Trump derangment syndrome is a real thing. :lol

[Spurtacular]

My point is that this is a battle will be fought on two fronts:

1. In the media and other communications
2. In the courts

Any effort to over turn this to have any chance to succeed has to get some momentum soon (at least a stay) in #2 and at least hold his own in #1 IMO.

The courts have the power, not big corp media for the most part.

71 million plus supported Trump despite the media. He received the highest number legal number of votes in history. The support is there despite big corp media.

At this point, big corp media is only upholding a relatively small number of toxic snowflakes anyhow. The average dumb ass hardly cares.

Right now, stuff is going on behind the scenes. The table is being set.

[RandomGuy]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-funny-puppets-blue-red-gif-16858905.gif


:lol

They are scamming rubes like you right up to the end.

Trump campaign’s election-fraud claims aren’t really designed to win in court
Trump campaign's push for legal battle donations may go to pay down campaign debts

[RandomGuy]

WTF are you even talking about :lol

Stating facts is not crying. Trump derangment syndrome is a real thing. :lol

Ok, i was being a bit harsh. Granted, and withdrawn.

[Rummpd]

The courts have the power, not big corp media for the most part.

71 million plus supported Trump despite the media. He received the highest number legal number of votes in history. The support is there despite big corp media.

At this point, big corp media is only upholding a relatively small number of toxic snowflakes anyhow. The average dumb ass hardly cares.

Right now, stuff is going on behind the scenes. The table is being set.



So who should play the lead role in reaching out to the public or media besides the President? Fox turned off the press briefing.

[LkrFan]

This is very irresponsible behavior from a well-known con man.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5fa9a66e21e8d0 a9c8379446%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D3000% 26cropY1%3D153%26cropY2%3D1840

Also :lol at no longer having to wear those masks.

:lmao Dumb whores

https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump/status/1326172550796341249?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

The truth is somewhat in the middle, there is probably legally yet no such thing as the "Office of the President Elect", but Biden has won unless an unexpected series of successful DT legal challenge victories prove otherwise. In reality it also looks somewhat like a Hollywood Squares production. That being said, will say as a public health doctor I have met some of the 12 on the task force and they are pretty capable at what they do and regardless of politics getting experts together is probably not a bad thing but until 20 Jan will no legal say.

There is no middle


Trump lost.

[ChumpDumper]

Right.

So the difference between now and 2016 is that Hillary conceded. So at that point, Trump became the assumed POTUS-elect.

Since Trump has not conceded, Biden is not the POTUS-elect, yet.

Concession isn't required for losing.

Trump lost.

[Dirks_Finale]

It would appear he did. Just like it appeared that Bush lost in 2000.

There's official and unofficial, chump.


Concession isn't required for losing.

Trump lost.

[ChumpDumper]

It would appear he did. Just like it appeared that Bush lost in 2000.

There's official and unofficial, chump.No. Bush was declared the winner and all legal proceedings started from there with him as the winner.

Trump lost.

I'll ask you the same thing I ask the other Trumpies: what do you say is Trump's path to victory here?

Be specific.

[lefty]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/JoyousWellgroomedAtlanticblackgoby-max-1mb.gif

[Leetonidas]

I don't think he was being reckless; it was quite clear that he was the winner of the 2016 election. I don't think that 2020 is clear for Biden at all given the high levels of impropriety.

Lol fail

[ChumpDumper]

:lol "high levels"

[Rummpd]

No. Bush was declared the winner and all legal proceedings started from there with him as the winner.

Trump lost.

I'll ask you the same thing I ask the other Trumpies: what do you say is Trump's path to victory here?

Be specific.

I don’t have a dog in fight as my life or work not going to change much either way.
President Trump faces at least a two front battle to have even a remote chance:

1. A need for a huge court win or at least a stay (PA?) very soon and then would somehow have to then quickly get a few more after that over a short time.
2. Public opinion that right now seems deferring to Biden and the media; and/or has not seemingly yet reached a critical mass on calling for anything with the voting to be investigated.

Mr. Biden definitely seems to have by far the momentum right now.

[ChumpDumper]

President Trump faces at least a two front battle to have even a remote chance:

1. A need for a huge court win or at least a stay (PA?) very soon and then would somehow have to then quickly get a few more after that over a short time.
2. Public opinion that right now seems deferring to Biden and the media; and/or has not seemingly yet reached a critical mass on calling for anything with the voting to be investigated.

Mr. Biden definitely seems to have by far the momentum right now.No.

Trump stands no chance outside of a full scale elector revolt that ignores the will of the voters.

Anything else is pure fantasy.

[Rummpd]

I agree I see no real chance based on known facts

[SnakeBoy]

Osterholm on the covid task force lol

[Bogie]

I don’t have a dog in fight as my life or work not going to change much either way.
President Trump faces at least a two front battle to have even a remote chance:

1. A need for a huge court win or at least a stay (PA?) very soon and then would somehow have to then quickly get a few more after that over a short time.
2. Public opinion that right now seems deferring to Biden and the media; and/or has not seemingly yet reached a critical mass on calling for anything with the voting to be investigated.

Mr. Biden definitely seems to have by far the momentum right now.

if you have no dog in the fight, why are peddling rwnj conspiracy theories?

[DMC]

It's funny everyone here calls him derp but anytime he posts a new thread he gets 4 or 5 pages of responses in just a couple hours.

[Joseph Kony]

It's funny everyone here calls him derp but anytime he posts a new thread he gets 4 or 5 pages of responses in just a couple hours.

tbf, 3 of those pages are probably arguing back and forth with chumpdumper

it's also irrelevant anyway because he's not a troll at all, he 100% believes the nonsense he posts :lol

[spurraider21]

It's funny everyone here calls him derp but anytime he posts a new thread he gets 4 or 5 pages of responses in just a couple hours.
he has a ton of threads where he makes up over 50% of the comments

[Rummpd]

if you have no dog in the fight, why are peddling rwnj conspiracy theories?

Name a single conspiracy that I have ever promoted from your viewpoint? All I am doing is stating how things stand as they happen. Trump has no path forward from current facts but one always has to let things play out - or is that beyond your comprehension level as it seems to be.

[Chris Fall]

Osterholm on the covid task force lol

Marc Siegel on Fox praising Osterholm's addition to the covid task force lol

[DJR210]

Can't wait to see you morons spin on 1/20/21 :lol

[Bogie]

Name a single conspiracy that I have ever promoted from your viewpoint? All I am doing is stating how things stand as they happen. Trump has no path forward from current facts but one always has to let things play out - or is that beyond your comprehension level as it seems to be.

Right. You think there’s election fraud, mr trumper?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPBUyZU4AAtONd?format=jpg&name=small

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/2g1RKjf/3000.jpg

But he has a cute lil podium

[lefty]

Trmptards are salty

:lol snowflakes

[Winehole23]

One does not "let things play out" after a fair and open election with clear result.

One concedes, wishes his opponent well, and withdraws honorably.

One doesn't file a swarm of nuisance suits to overturn that election without any evidence it has been substantially dicked with, which is what Trump is doing.

[Blake]

It's funny everyone here calls him derp but anytime he posts a new thread he gets 4 or 5 pages of responses in just a couple hours.

DMC admiring derp

[Brazil]

It's November and derp still doesn't understand how the masks work

:lmao exactly my thought... dear fucking god how one can be so stupid.. it's beyond my level of understanding.

[Rummpd]

Right. You think there’s election fraud, mr trumper?

“Arguing with idiots said Mr. Twain” - I am only reporting what is in news...I am not a person who had aligned with anyone nor will I.

[ChumpDumper]

Osterholm on the covid task force lol

Better than you:tu

[Rummpd]

Better than you:tu

I actually met him decades ago in my state public health days and he is a sharp person who was involved with many epidemic investigations.

[Dirks_Finale]

A recent poll said that 70% of republicans do not trust or believe these election results. Why would that be the case when they didn't dispute Romney or McCain losing? What was different about this election?

And I don't think he is going to win. If there is widespread fraud it will be impossible to prove unless it was a coordinated effort. All I am saying is, Biden is not the POTUS elect, yet.


No. Bush was declared the winner and all legal proceedings started from there with him as the winner.

Trump lost.

I'll ask you the same thing I ask the other Trumpies: what do you say is Trump's path to victory here?

Be specific.

[spurraider21]

can someone fill me in as to why Osterholm is being lol'd at?

[Bogie]

“Arguing with idiots said Mr. Twain” - I am only reporting what is in news...I am not a person who had aligned with anyone nor will I.


Of course you dodge.

do you think there is voting fraud in this election?

[TSA]

Donald Trump's Stealthy Road to Victory

As the counting of votes in Arizona, Georgia, and especially Pennsylvania continues, most of the press and punditry have concluded that Vice President Biden has won the 2020 election. Certainly, a substantial majority of the rest of us are suffering from “election fatigue” and eager for this drama to be over. Without disagreeing with the conventional wisdom about the final tally when all the legal votes are counted, I believe the current consensus is missing the fact that Trump has a second, viable stealthy road to victory. I’m reluctantly betting that the debate about who won will continue until at least January 6 when slates of electoral college members are opened in Washington, and most likely beyond that as whatever is decided then is appealed by the loser to the Supreme Court. My conclusion reflects the analysis of my colleague in the Applied History Network at the Belfer Center which is below.

As he notes, this stealthy road follows in the footsteps of a number of previous contested American elections, especially the 1876 election that pitted Tilden v. Hayes. Then as now, each state must decide on a group of electors to meet with a joint session of Congress on January 6 where the winner of the presidential election is declared. The normal practice in a state where Biden won the popular-vote total would be for state election officials to certify the results and send a slate of electors to Congress. But state legislatures have the constitutional authority to conclude that the popular vote has been corrupted and thus send a competing slate of electors on behalf of their state. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution specifies that the “President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” That means that in the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. Pence would choose Trump. Democrats would appeal to the Supreme Court.

Alternatively, if at that point, no candidate has the required 270 electoral votes, the 12th Amendment stipulates, “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.” Currently, Republicans have a state delegation majority with 26 of the 50 states and they appear almost certain to keep that majority in the new Congress. A vote of the states would then elect President Trump for a second term. And again, Democrats would appeal that outcome to the Supreme Court.

As the analysis below notes, these issues are even more complex. But to repeat the bottom line: both the words of the 12th Amendment, and historical precedent offer a credible, stealthy, winding road that could lead to Trump’s victory and a second term. Or as the saying goes: the opera ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

***

A Contested Election Structurally Favors Republicans in 2020.

I project a 20% chance of a contested election outcome leading to a victory for President Trump.

Whereas consensus sees contestation via Constitutional means as a far, remote possibility, a scenario invoking the 12th amendment is an easier path for Republicans to pursue than currently recognized.

Trump has consistently during his reelection campaign questioned the legitimacy of mail-in ballots, claiming the election will be “rigged” and “the most corrupt election in the history of our country.” This is most likely part of a strategy to set the stage for a contested outcome.

- On Nov. 1 in North Carolina, President Trump decried recent Supreme Court rulings allowing states such as Pennsylvania to continue counting ballots after election day, stating, “We’re going to go in the night of, as soon as that election’s over, we’re going in with our lawyers.”

Most significant, President Trump has clearly discussed and been briefed on a strategy to contest the election via Constitutional means, saying at a Sept. 26 rally in—where else—Pennsylvania: “And I don’t want to end up in the Supreme Court and I don’t want to go back to Congress either, even though we have an advantage if we go back to Congress — does everyone understand that? I think it’s 26 to 22 or something because it’s counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage. Oh, they’re going to be thrilled to hear that.”

Politico reports, “In private, Trump has discussed the possibility of the presidential race being thrown into the House as well, raising the issue with GOP lawmakers, according to Republican sources.”

Trump is correct: Republicans currently have 26-state delegation majority to Democrats’ 22 state delegations in a scenario in which the election is decided by a House of Representatives vote on the presidency according to state delegations.

Contested outcome scenario built upon a dispute Pennsylvania result.

A conceivable contested election could involve multiple states’ electoral votes, but Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes would almost certainly figure into such a scenario.

1876 precedent: Coincidentally, in the contested election of 1876 between Democrat Samuel J. Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes —the best precedent available for a possible contested 2020 election (not the 2000 election)—20 electoral votes were under dispute, albeit from four different states: all electors from Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina, and one elector from Oregon.

House of Representatives Office of the Historian: “Both Tilden and Hayes electors submitted votes from these three states, each claiming victory in violent and confused elections. The Democratic-controlled House and the Republican-dominated Senate came to a compromise on how to resolve the problem by creating an Electoral Commission: a bipartisan committee of House Members, Senators, and Supreme Court Justices who would determine the final disposition of the yet-unassigned electoral votes…[Beginning on Feb. 1, 1877], Congress met in a Joint Session 15 times in the next month, until—acting on the decision of the commission—it awarded the disputed vote to Hayes, granting him the victory by one vote.”

The resolution was decided via a backroom deal in which the Republicans agreed with Democrats to end Reconstruction in return for winning the presidency.

In a contested 2020 election, Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor and Republican state legislature could send competing electors to be counted at the Jan. 6, 2021 joint session of Congress.

Similar to 1876, the Republican Senate and Democratic House would disagree on which electors to accept. However, in the media environment of 2020, it would be virtually impossible for the two houses of Congress to reach a backroom deal to resolve their dispute as happened in 1876.

Democrats would argue that the Electoral Count Act of 1877—passed in order to avoid a repeat of 1876—favors the electors certified by state governors; in this case, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania certifying electors voting for Biden.

Republicans, on the other hand, would argue that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional, as the Constitution clearly allows state legislatures to certify electors; in this case, the Republican state legislature of Pennsylvania certifying electors voting for Trump.

Under the Constitution, there exists no mechanism to resolve a dispute in which the two houses of Congress cannot agree upon a certified set of electors, and there is no Constitutional role for the courts, including the Supreme Court.

Republicans, supported by legal and historical precedent, would argue that under the language of the 12th amendment, which reads, “The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted,” the President of the Senate—Vice President Mike Pence—has the sole discretion to break a deadlock between the Senate and the House, and to either accept or dismiss disputed electors.

As Edward B. Foley explains, in such a scenario, “Some Republicans take the especially aggressive position that Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, has the unilateral authority under the Twelfth Amendment to decide which certificate of electoral votes from Pennsylvania is the authoritative one entitled to be counted in Congress and that he, accordingly, will count the certificate from the electors appointed by the state legislature because the Constitution authorizes the state legislature to choose the method of appointing electors. These Republicans point to the historical pedigree of this position, observing that Republicans made the same argument during the disputed election of 1876 and that at least some recent law journal scholarship has supported this position. Unembarrassed by the apparent conflict of interest caused by Mike Pence simultaneously being a candidate for reelection and arbiter of the electoral dispute, these Republicans observe that Thomas Jefferson was in essentially the same position during the disputed election of 1800 and yet the Twelfth Amendment left this provision in place when Congress rewrote the procedures for the Electoral College afterwards. While it is true that an incumbent Vice President might have a direct personal stake in the electoral dispute to be resolved, the Republicans argue, at least the glare of the spotlight is focused on whatever the vice president does in this situation, and everyone will be able to judge whether the vice president acted honorably or dishonorably in resolving the dispute.”

“This interpretation of the Twelfth Amendment is bolstered, moreover, by the further observation that the responsibility to definitively decide which electoral votes from each state are entitled to be counted must be lodged ultimately in some singular authority of the federal government. If one body could decide the question one way, while another body could reach the opposite conclusion, then there inevitably is a stalemate unless and until a single authority is identified with the power to settle the matter once and for all. Given the language of the Twelfth Amendment, whatever its ambiguity and potential policy objections, there is no other possible single authority to identify for this purpose besides the President of the Senate. This role could have been vested in the chief justice of the United States, as is the constitutional authority to preside over the trial of an impeachment of the president. Or disputes of this nature could have been referred directly to the Supreme Court, as a singular corporate body, for definitive resolution there. But the Constitution does neither; nor does it make any other such provision. Thus, according to this argument, the inevitable implication of the Twelfth Amendment’s text is that it vests this ultimate singular authority, for better or worse, in the President of the Senate. Subject only to the joint observational role of the Senate and House of Representatives, the President of the Senate decides authoritatively what ‘certificates’ from the states to ‘open’ and thus what electoral votes are ‘to be counted.’”

Vice President Pence would then either accept the electors submitted by the Pennsylvania Republican legislature voting for Trump, or dismiss them as disputed and not have them counted. In this new, reduced total of electors, a remaining majority still delivers Trump a victory.

If a majority is not reached, then under the 12th amendment, “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.” If Republicans maintain their current 26-state House majority by state delegation, they are thereby able in this scenario to reelect President Trump for a second term.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi could refuse to attend with House Democrats the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress, thereby indefinitely delaying the aforementioned process, and—in a different scenario—assume the presidency as Acting President under the 20th amendment and under the succession statute enacted by Congress. This sets up a battle of dueling inaugurations on Jan. 20, 2021.

For a detailed description of these contested scenarios, see Edward B. Foley, “Preparing for a Disputed Presidential Election: An Exercise in Election Risk Assessment and Management,” 8/31/19, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309 (2019), Ohio State Public Law Working Paper No. 501.

For simplified distillations of a contested outcome favoring Trump, see:

Fareed Zakaria, “Trump could stay in power even if he doesn’t win the election. The Constitution allows it.,” Washington Post, 9/24/20.

Graham Allison, “Trump Might Not Want to Relinquish Power,” The Atlantic, 7/12/2020

Graham T. Allison is the Douglas Dillon Professor of Government at the Harvard Kennedy School. He is the former director of Harvard’s Belfer Center and the author of Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides’s Trap?

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/donald-trumps-stealthy-road-victory-172235




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[spurraider21]

imagine literally hoping for the end of democracy just to keep dear leader in power

this is why spurminator's olive branch thread was spot on

[R. DeMurre]

:lol Apparently Democrats ran a huge conspiracy across multiple states with a bunch of fake ballots that voted for Biden and Republican candidates for Congress. So they were sophisticated and sneaky enough to steal the presidency, but they left the Senate for the Republicans. That's a really dumb conspiracy theory.

[Reck]

A recent poll said that 70% of republicans do not trust or believe these election results. Why would that be the case when they didn't dispute Romney or McCain losing? What was different about this election?

And I don't think he is going to win. If there is widespread fraud it will be impossible to prove unless it was a coordinated effort. All I am saying is, Biden is not the POTUS elect, yet.

:lol you believe in polls still.

:lol You dont have to admit he's not the president elect, but he is. Once you cross the 270 threshold, it is over.

[ElNono]

We discussed faithless electors, but it's not as clear cut as it sounds. Besides the whole shitting on the actual voters which is political suicide, States have laws about it.

What would be hilarious though, is that Trump was angry as fuck when the possibility of faithless electors came up in '16 denying his electoral win.

[Ef-man]

Blame trump for 70% of republicans not believing election results.

He has been saying “believe me,” “fake news,” do not trust press, I will win or election was rigged, democrats are cheating, etc., since he ran in 2016.

His fans fell in line with what he was saying.

Republican politicians are afraid of that 70% turning on them and being called rino. Hence, they are also following trump’s lead.



A recent poll said that 70% of republicans do not trust or believe these election results. Why would that be the case when they didn't dispute Romney or McCain losing? What was different about this election?

And I don't think he is going to win. If there is widespread fraud it will be impossible to prove unless it was a coordinated effort. All I am saying is, Biden is not the POTUS elect, yet.

[ChumpDumper]

A recent poll said that 70% of republicans do not trust or believe these election results. Why would that be the case when they didn't dispute Romney or McCain losing? What was different about this election?

And I don't think he is going to win. If there is widespread fraud it will be impossible to prove unless it was a coordinated effort. All I am saying is, Biden is not the POTUS elect, yet.

Yes he is. Just because 50 million rubes are in denial, that changes nothing.

[Bill_Brasky]

Threads like this are why this site is garbage. Fuck the site owners for allowing such garbage to fucking exist on their servers.

[Will Hunting]

:lol those same 50 million people think the world is only 5,000 years old and that there’s an underground cabal of pedophiles Trump is secretly waging war with. Why the fuck does their opinion matter? They’ve demonstrated themselves to be the biggest idiots in the country.

[FrostKing]

Threads like this are why this site is garbage. Fuck the site owners for allowing such garbage to fucking exist on their servers.
:lol :lol :lol

Guy wants to censor message boards now. Just put a microphone in people's bedroom and be done with it.

[MultiTroll]

Not even counting all the court challenges, GA, WI, AZ going to recounts. If and when Trump wins them, he'll be at 269; and he wins the tie breaker. This isn't even taking into account MI, PA, big court wins, Supreme Court, etc. Trump's odds according to lefty PredictIt went from 10 percent before the election to 17 percent now. :lol
17% odds?
I will give you -5000.

Place your bet at www.FabbsBankAccount.com

[TSA]

:lol you believe in polls still.

:lol You dont have to admit he's not the president elect, but he is. Once you cross the 270 threshold, it is over.

Dirk is correct, Biden isn’t the President elect yet. Which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

[Joseph Kony]

Donald Trump's Stealthy Road to Victory

As the counting of votes in Arizona, Georgia, and especially Pennsylvania continues, most of the press and punditry have concluded that Vice President Biden has won the 2020 election. Certainly, a substantial majority of the rest of us are suffering from “election fatigue” and eager for this drama to be over. Without disagreeing with the conventional wisdom about the final tally when all the legal votes are counted, I believe the current consensus is missing the fact that Trump has a second, viable stealthy road to victory. I’m reluctantly betting that the debate about who won will continue until at least January 6 when slates of electoral college members are opened in Washington, and most likely beyond that as whatever is decided then is appealed by the loser to the Supreme Court. My conclusion reflects the analysis of my colleague in the Applied History Network at the Belfer Center which is below.

As he notes, this stealthy road follows in the footsteps of a number of previous contested American elections, especially the 1876 election that pitted Tilden v. Hayes. Then as now, each state must decide on a group of electors to meet with a joint session of Congress on January 6 where the winner of the presidential election is declared. The normal practice in a state where Biden won the popular-vote total would be for state election officials to certify the results and send a slate of electors to Congress. But state legislatures have the constitutional authority to conclude that the popular vote has been corrupted and thus send a competing slate of electors on behalf of their state. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution specifies that the “President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” That means that in the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. Pence would choose Trump. Democrats would appeal to the Supreme Court.

Alternatively, if at that point, no candidate has the required 270 electoral votes, the 12th Amendment stipulates, “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.” Currently, Republicans have a state delegation majority with 26 of the 50 states and they appear almost certain to keep that majority in the new Congress. A vote of the states would then elect President Trump for a second term. And again, Democrats would appeal that outcome to the Supreme Court.

As the analysis below notes, these issues are even more complex. But to repeat the bottom line: both the words of the 12th Amendment, and historical precedent offer a credible, stealthy, winding road that could lead to Trump’s victory and a second term. Or as the saying goes: the opera ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

***

A Contested Election Structurally Favors Republicans in 2020.

I project a 20% chance of a contested election outcome leading to a victory for President Trump.

Whereas consensus sees contestation via Constitutional means as a far, remote possibility, a scenario invoking the 12th amendment is an easier path for Republicans to pursue than currently recognized.

Trump has consistently during his reelection campaign questioned the legitimacy of mail-in ballots, claiming the election will be “rigged” and “the most corrupt election in the history of our country.” This is most likely part of a strategy to set the stage for a contested outcome.

- On Nov. 1 in North Carolina, President Trump decried recent Supreme Court rulings allowing states such as Pennsylvania to continue counting ballots after election day, stating, “We’re going to go in the night of, as soon as that election’s over, we’re going in with our lawyers.”

Most significant, President Trump has clearly discussed and been briefed on a strategy to contest the election via Constitutional means, saying at a Sept. 26 rally in—where else—Pennsylvania: “And I don’t want to end up in the Supreme Court and I don’t want to go back to Congress either, even though we have an advantage if we go back to Congress — does everyone understand that? I think it’s 26 to 22 or something because it’s counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage. Oh, they’re going to be thrilled to hear that.”

Politico reports, “In private, Trump has discussed the possibility of the presidential race being thrown into the House as well, raising the issue with GOP lawmakers, according to Republican sources.”

Trump is correct: Republicans currently have 26-state delegation majority to Democrats’ 22 state delegations in a scenario in which the election is decided by a House of Representatives vote on the presidency according to state delegations.

Contested outcome scenario built upon a dispute Pennsylvania result.

A conceivable contested election could involve multiple states’ electoral votes, but Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes would almost certainly figure into such a scenario.

1876 precedent: Coincidentally, in the contested election of 1876 between Democrat Samuel J. Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes —the best precedent available for a possible contested 2020 election (not the 2000 election)—20 electoral votes were under dispute, albeit from four different states: all electors from Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina, and one elector from Oregon.

House of Representatives Office of the Historian: “Both Tilden and Hayes electors submitted votes from these three states, each claiming victory in violent and confused elections. The Democratic-controlled House and the Republican-dominated Senate came to a compromise on how to resolve the problem by creating an Electoral Commission: a bipartisan committee of House Members, Senators, and Supreme Court Justices who would determine the final disposition of the yet-unassigned electoral votes…[Beginning on Feb. 1, 1877], Congress met in a Joint Session 15 times in the next month, until—acting on the decision of the commission—it awarded the disputed vote to Hayes, granting him the victory by one vote.”

The resolution was decided via a backroom deal in which the Republicans agreed with Democrats to end Reconstruction in return for winning the presidency.

In a contested 2020 election, Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor and Republican state legislature could send competing electors to be counted at the Jan. 6, 2021 joint session of Congress.

Similar to 1876, the Republican Senate and Democratic House would disagree on which electors to accept. However, in the media environment of 2020, it would be virtually impossible for the two houses of Congress to reach a backroom deal to resolve their dispute as happened in 1876.

Democrats would argue that the Electoral Count Act of 1877—passed in order to avoid a repeat of 1876—favors the electors certified by state governors; in this case, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania certifying electors voting for Biden.

Republicans, on the other hand, would argue that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional, as the Constitution clearly allows state legislatures to certify electors; in this case, the Republican state legislature of Pennsylvania certifying electors voting for Trump.

Under the Constitution, there exists no mechanism to resolve a dispute in which the two houses of Congress cannot agree upon a certified set of electors, and there is no Constitutional role for the courts, including the Supreme Court.

Republicans, supported by legal and historical precedent, would argue that under the language of the 12th amendment, which reads, “The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted,” the President of the Senate—Vice President Mike Pence—has the sole discretion to break a deadlock between the Senate and the House, and to either accept or dismiss disputed electors.

As Edward B. Foley explains, in such a scenario, “Some Republicans take the especially aggressive position that Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, has the unilateral authority under the Twelfth Amendment to decide which certificate of electoral votes from Pennsylvania is the authoritative one entitled to be counted in Congress and that he, accordingly, will count the certificate from the electors appointed by the state legislature because the Constitution authorizes the state legislature to choose the method of appointing electors. These Republicans point to the historical pedigree of this position, observing that Republicans made the same argument during the disputed election of 1876 and that at least some recent law journal scholarship has supported this position. Unembarrassed by the apparent conflict of interest caused by Mike Pence simultaneously being a candidate for reelection and arbiter of the electoral dispute, these Republicans observe that Thomas Jefferson was in essentially the same position during the disputed election of 1800 and yet the Twelfth Amendment left this provision in place when Congress rewrote the procedures for the Electoral College afterwards. While it is true that an incumbent Vice President might have a direct personal stake in the electoral dispute to be resolved, the Republicans argue, at least the glare of the spotlight is focused on whatever the vice president does in this situation, and everyone will be able to judge whether the vice president acted honorably or dishonorably in resolving the dispute.”

“This interpretation of the Twelfth Amendment is bolstered, moreover, by the further observation that the responsibility to definitively decide which electoral votes from each state are entitled to be counted must be lodged ultimately in some singular authority of the federal government. If one body could decide the question one way, while another body could reach the opposite conclusion, then there inevitably is a stalemate unless and until a single authority is identified with the power to settle the matter once and for all. Given the language of the Twelfth Amendment, whatever its ambiguity and potential policy objections, there is no other possible single authority to identify for this purpose besides the President of the Senate. This role could have been vested in the chief justice of the United States, as is the constitutional authority to preside over the trial of an impeachment of the president. Or disputes of this nature could have been referred directly to the Supreme Court, as a singular corporate body, for definitive resolution there. But the Constitution does neither; nor does it make any other such provision. Thus, according to this argument, the inevitable implication of the Twelfth Amendment’s text is that it vests this ultimate singular authority, for better or worse, in the President of the Senate. Subject only to the joint observational role of the Senate and House of Representatives, the President of the Senate decides authoritatively what ‘certificates’ from the states to ‘open’ and thus what electoral votes are ‘to be counted.’”

Vice President Pence would then either accept the electors submitted by the Pennsylvania Republican legislature voting for Trump, or dismiss them as disputed and not have them counted. In this new, reduced total of electors, a remaining majority still delivers Trump a victory.

If a majority is not reached, then under the 12th amendment, “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.” If Republicans maintain their current 26-state House majority by state delegation, they are thereby able in this scenario to reelect President Trump for a second term.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi could refuse to attend with House Democrats the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress, thereby indefinitely delaying the aforementioned process, and—in a different scenario—assume the presidency as Acting President under the 20th amendment and under the succession statute enacted by Congress. This sets up a battle of dueling inaugurations on Jan. 20, 2021.

For a detailed description of these contested scenarios, see Edward B. Foley, “Preparing for a Disputed Presidential Election: An Exercise in Election Risk Assessment and Management,” 8/31/19, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309 (2019), Ohio State Public Law Working Paper No. 501.

For simplified distillations of a contested outcome favoring Trump, see:

Fareed Zakaria, “Trump could stay in power even if he doesn’t win the election. The Constitution allows it.,” Washington Post, 9/24/20.

Graham Allison, “Trump Might Not Want to Relinquish Power,” The Atlantic, 7/12/2020

Graham T. Allison is the Douglas Dillon Professor of Government at the Harvard Kennedy School. He is the former director of Harvard’s Belfer Center and the author of Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides’s Trap?

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/donald-trumps-stealthy-road-victory-172235




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:lmao adding the copium meme to your own post. god damn youre an idiot

[TSA]

imaging literally hoping for the end of democracy just to keep dear leader in power

this is why spurminator's olive branch thread was spot on




https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1326230270421426183

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/699/pepe.jpg

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao :lmao he did it again. dumbass doesnt realize the context of the meme at all LMAO

[Reck]

Dirk is correct, Biden isn’t the President elect yet. Which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

Sure thing, pizza lord. Keep posting copium memes on yourself. :tu

[TSA]

:lmao :lmao he did it again. dumbass doesnt realize the context of the meme at all LMAO

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-small.gif

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao :lmao he did it again. dumbass doesnt realize the context of the meme at all LMAO

He's 100% rube now.

[TSA]

Sure thing, pizza lord. Keep posting copium memes on yourself. :tu

Dirk is correct, Biden isn’t the President elect yet. Again, which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

[spurraider21]

Dirk is correct, Biden isn’t the President elect yet. Again, which states have certified to get Biden to 270?
did you have a problem with president elect trump after november 8 2016 or did you wait until enough states certified?

[Leetonidas]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-small.gif

You guys are so dumb. You lost. It doesn't hurt us one bit lol. But keep coping son

[Reck]

Dirk is correct, Biden isn’t the President elect yet. Again, which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

He is, you just have to deal with it. Or not.

[Reck]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/nyp.jpg

:lmao Even the jizzrag NY Post abandoning ship.

[Leetonidas]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/nyp.jpg

:lmao Even the jizzrag NY Post abandoning ship.

>when the media supports their position
"Ha see RCP hasn't named a winner yet Biden didn't win!!
>when media doesn't support their position
" Media can't declare a winner! Fake news!! Pizza gate! "

[lefty]

:lmao

1325911522888052737

[Spurminator]

imaging literally hoping for the end of democracy just to keep dear leader in power

this is why spurminator's olive branch thread was spot on

Yep.

Trump's cult values nothing above Trump. And they have the audacity to brand themselves as patriots.

[MASSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyv905Q2omU

[Leetonidas]

:lmao

1325911522888052737

:lmao :lmao remind me who the snowflakes are again

[TSA]

did you have a problem with president elect trump after november 8 2016 or did you wait until enough states certified?I don't believe I ever even called him president elect Trump after November 8 2016, but had I and had someone else pointed out he wasn't actually the president elect until the states certified I would have said they were correct.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

1325911522888052737:lol holy shit

[TSA]

He is, you just have to deal with it. Or not.

He is not until the states certify. Again, which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

[ChumpDumper]

TSAnon trying to walk back his crazy.

:lol rube

[Leetonidas]

He is not until the states certify. Again, which states have certified to get Biden to 270?

When the states certify him what are you going to shift your argument to?

[TSA]

When the states certify him what are you going to shift your argument to?

There is no argument now, he isn't the president elect. When the states certify him he'd be president elect.

[ChumpDumper]

Not MY president-elect!

[Joseph Kony]

There is no argument now, he isn't the president elect. When the states certify him he'd be president elect.

sorry this is happening to you. he's still (going to be) your president

[TSA]

sorry this is happening to you. he's still (going to be) your president

White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign of election defiance

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/11/10/trump-federal-budget-post-election/

:rollin

[Joseph Kony]

White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign of election defiance

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/11/10/trump-federal-budget-post-election/

:rollin

And? Just Trump being a faggot per par. Not going to change anything. Tick tock...

[Joseph Kony]

Trump trying to pull the George Constanza card :lol dude's going to keep acting like he didn't lose his job but it wont matter :lol

[TimDunkem]

Trump trying to pull the George Constanza card :lol dude's going to keep acting like he didn't lose his job but it wont matter :lol
He's just going to keep showing up even after Biden is sitting in the Oval Office taking calls from world leaders. :lol

[TSA]

There is no argument now, he isn't the president elect. When the states certify him he'd be president elect.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1326208929018351616

[Reck]

White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign of election defiance

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/11/10/trump-federal-budget-post-election/

:rollin

Wait...you think Trump's staying past january 20th?

You're gullible...but just how much gullible are you, TSA?

[DMC]

“Arguing with idiots said Mr. Twain” - I am only reporting what is in news...I am not a person who had aligned with anyone nor will I.

Some of these guys are unable to fathom having a neutral take. They probably accuse a color commentator of taking sides in a sporting event: Hubie "Now, I like this timeout, this timeout says 'look guys, I know we're doing well but let's not get sloppy'. This coach does this, he calls these timeouts when they need to refocus not just based on the score"... Bogie "Suck his dick while you're at it Hubie, you buttfucking piece of shit"

[Winehole23]

https://img.picturequotes.com/2/947/946501/i-do-not-regard-the-procuring-of-peace-as-a-matter-in-which-we-should-play-the-role-of-arbiter-quote-1.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC h:lolnestly br:lolkering

Rummpd is a closet Trump supporter using both sidesism as his feigned neutrality shtick.

[Winehole23]

https://img.picturequotes.com/2/271/270739/we-in-the-press-like-to-say-were-honest-brokers-of-information-and-its-just-not-true-the-press-does-quote-1.jpg

[Blake]

Threads like this are why this site is garbage. Fuck the site owners for allowing such garbage to fucking exist on their servers.

:lol

[Winehole23]

https://pics.me.me/i-simply-try-to-act-as-an-honest-broker-for-46042553.png

[Will Hunting]

:lmao

1325911522888052737
:lmao

[Winehole23]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/b4/09/e0b409dcf5d2d2baa225784985232ad7.jpg

[Spurtacular]

Sloppy Democrats.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/741/968/original/75eaab8bf4f21b54.jpeg

[Blake]

Sloppy Democrats.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/741/968/original/75eaab8bf4f21b54.jpeg

Unless Trump wins, right?

Why are you posting a graph from 2014, derp?

[President Trump]

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/745/822/original/cc5bc33e2dbbe44e.png

[Spurtacular]

Unless Trump wins, right?

Why are you posting a graph from 2014, derp?

Maybe you shouldn't use the term derp while looking so ignorant. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

:lmao

1325911522888052737

Staged by liberals for clicks. :lol

You guys fell for it :lol

[Bogie]

Maybe you shouldn't use the term derp while looking so ignorant. :lol


why did you think you were making a point by posting a 6 year old graph, derp?

You are really losing it, derp. You need help. You’re sliding into being an even more pathetic version of yourself. Use your Medicaid, and get some counseling.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmKN4cgXgAQ9960?format=png&name=small

[Winehole23]

1326689438613835776

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

1325911522888052737

Well, probably for the best for her. She is young and will hopefully land on her feet.

If your parents choose Trump over their kid, probably for the best. Cut them out of her life and don't look back, kid.

[MASSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyv905Q2omU

[Ef-man]

To soothe the derp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

[Spurtacular]

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/756/444/original/4c734503cd4818d3.jpeg

[Winehole23]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ReadyImpartialBlackfootedferret-size_restricted.gif

[RandomGuy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/hhnpSxCjyXzHy/giphy.gif

:lol

[Spurtacular]

:lol Bitch slapped.

1328145585279365121

[Winehole23]

Trump was President elect with the same projected EC count and a bigger margin.

Y'all are sore losers.

[ChumpDumper]

Lady lawdog.:lol

[Splits]

lol some magatard writes a letter to congress and lady rawdog just has to misrepresent it as an "official" statement of congress. Imagine being so stupid you believe this shit.

tick tock

[spurraider21]

:lol Bitch slapped.

1328145585279365121
a) that letter doesnt represent "congress." its a letter written by a single republican from a committee run by democrats. it states outright that it is written in response to a letter sent by dem house members

b) the letter doesn't have any legal effect. they're basically begging the judge to not treat biden as president-elect, even though the letter itself confirms that it is Judge Murphy who has the authority to make the call of whether or not Biden is the "apparent President-elect"

:lmao "congress has made it official" :lmao

[Spurminator]

lady rawdog

:lmao :lmao

[MASSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdAGkjHGac

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsZujjZWs0

[RandomGuy]

This is very irresponsible behavior from a well-known con man.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5fa9a66e21e8d0 a9c8379446%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D3000% 26cropY1%3D153%26cropY2%3D1840

Also :lol at no longer having to wear those masks.

:lmao Dumb whores

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You suck donkey dicks.

Biden President, not Trump.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdAGkjHGac

Hhahahahahahhahahaha.

Loser.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao derp

[Ef-man]

:lmao derp

At the risk of causing derp enough anguish to cause it to create a new coping thread, I salute you Blake-ChumpDumper for your service!

:lmao derp is melting down, again!