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RandomGuy
11-12-2020, 04:17 PM
Long article-RG

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The 26-year-old, who lives in Austin, Texas, and once wanted to become a journalist, hadn’t even voted, nor did he ever really like Donald Trump. But he quickly found himself falling down a familiar rabbit hole, following one Twitter thread after another in search of proof that the election had been rigged by the Democrats against the president.

“I just became obsessed with figuring out that it was rigged and putting pieces together that it was,” Justin, who asked to be identified only by his first name, told Yahoo News. “I wanted to say that I was on to this before everyone, when everyone else blindly believed the lies of the media.”

As Tuesday night spilled into Wednesday, Justin said, he called off work and he spent the rest of the week “on Twitter trying to convince myself of this election fraud stuff.”

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But Justin’s failed search for evidence of fraud in the election had a very different effect. It was the key that allowed him to escape his years-long obsession with QAnon, the conspiracy theory that holds millions of people around the world in its cultlike grip.

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“If you are interested in QAnon, QAnonCasualties is a must subreddit to read regularly and to get to know what is happening in QWorld from those closest to QAnon adherents,” Argentino wrote before proceeding to share several screenshots of recent posts from the Reddit forum, which, since it was created in July 2019, has served as a sort of a virtual support group for friends and family members of people from all over the world who’ve become consumed by the cultlike conspiracy theory. As of Thursday, the QAnonCasualties subreddit had more than
42,000 members.

“My sensibilities lied with these types of people — paranoid conspiracy theorists who are confused by all the social changes that have happened in this country in the past 4-5 years,” Justin wrote on Reddit. “Their sense of humor resonated with me. I liked the memes. There was a feeling of brotherhood and community — always knitted together by the common thread of not trusting the media or the government or *anybody* but each other.”

Eventually he says he stopped keeping up with current events altogether, “a dangerous turning point” that seemed to coincide with the rise of Pizzagate.

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“I’ve been taking the past day and a half to rethink the past three or four years of my life,” he said, adding that he plans to talk to some of the other Q defectors who’ve been responding to his Reddit post before reaching out to other family and friends.

He also said he needs to “learn to trust the media again,” noting that he had started that process by watching a clip from CNN. “Baby steps,” he said. As for whether there was widespread voter fraud in the election, Justin said he’s decided to take the word of the official media and government sources that he’d long rejected. “Now I accept that there very, very likely wasn’t,” he said.

https://news.yahoo.com/life-after-q-anon-trumps-loss-allows-some-to-escape-conspiracy-cults-grip-182003557.html

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 04:27 PM
He also said he needs to “learn to trust the media again,.

https://news.yahoo.com/life-after-q-anon-trumps-loss-allows-some-to-escape-conspiracy-cults-grip-182003557.html

Why would anybody do that? Even many liberals admit that the mainstream media is corrupt as hell.

Qanon seems weird but trusting the media is going from the frying pan to the fire.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2020, 04:32 PM
Why would anybody do that? Even many liberals admit that the mainstream media is corrupt as hell.

Qanon seems weird but trusting the media is going from the frying pan to the fire.What media do you believe?

Spurminator
11-12-2020, 04:35 PM
Why would anybody do that? Even many liberals admit that the mainstream media is corrupt as hell.

Qanon seems weird but trusting the media is going from the frying pan to the fire.

h:lolnest br:lolker

The Media isn't a monolith. There are a range of biases, there will be mistakes and retractions, there will be sensationalism, and there will be specious sources. But it's still the best thing we have if we want anything resembling a truthful version of the way things are outside of our individual experience.

Without journalism, you're left trusting bad actors or the government itself to feed you their version of reality. Do you trust Donald Trump more than the Associated Press? (Actually, don't answer that, I'm afraid of what you might say.)

The reflexive distrust of all media is a tool of fascists.

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 05:08 PM
h:lolnest br:lolker

The Media isn't a monolith. There are a range of biases, there will be mistakes and retractions, there will be sensationalism, and there will be specious sources. But it's still the best thing we have if we want anything resembling a truthful version of the way things are outside of our individual experience.

Without journalism, you're left trusting bad actors or the government itself to feed you their version of reality. Do you trust Donald Trump more than the Associated Press? (Actually, don't answer that, I'm afraid of what you might say.)

The reflexive distrust of all media is a tool of fascists.

Here's the problem - those "retractions" don't clean up the damage that was already done. People already accept it as gospel when MSM claims it to be true with their unnamed 'sources'.

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 05:09 PM
What media do you believe?

None of it as they all have their biases and agendas.

But I listen to a little of all of it and take bits and pieces to attempt to sift through all the B.S. and find a nugget of truth here or there.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2020, 05:13 PM
None of it as they all have their biases and agendas.

But I listen to a little of all of it and take bits and pieces to attempt to sift through all the B.S. and find a nugget of truth here or there.So you believe some media once you run it through some kind of filter.

What are your other sources of information?

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 05:17 PM
So you believe some media once you run it through some kind of filter.

What are your other sources of information?

Common sense.

Get your info from MSM and online as well. Not just one side. I hear the arguments from Kyle of Secular Talk, Young Turks in addition to Conservative outlets.

And follow the money, always follow the money.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2020, 05:23 PM
Common sense.

Get your info from MSM and online as well. Not just one side. I hear the arguments from Kyle of Secular Talk, Young Turks in addition to Conservative outlets.

And follow the money, always follow the money.So watch lots of media and believe it.

leemajors
11-12-2020, 05:28 PM
This may violate the first rule of Q club.

Will Hunting
11-12-2020, 05:29 PM
And follow the money, always follow the money.
Except when that money is coming from Sheldon Adelson, Charles Koch, or Steve Schwartzman amirite?

pgardn
11-12-2020, 06:09 PM
Why would anybody do that? Even many liberals admit that the mainstream media is corrupt as hell.

Qanon seems weird but trusting the media is going from the frying pan to the fire.

What the fck is the mainstream media and the media that is not corrupt? (so we might delve into the truth you know)
List please.

Give me the most solid article concerning the belief that this election was somehow rigged and stolen from Trump via "vote cheating."
Give the link please.

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 06:11 PM
So watch lots of media and believe it.


What part of 'nugget' are you not understanding :lol

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 06:14 PM
Just keep buying into MSM. They would never intentionally mislead you, pgardn. That would be unethical. :rolleyes


What the fck is the mainstream media and the media that is not corrupt? (so we might delve into the truth you know)
List please.

Give me the most solid article concerning the belief that this election was somehow rigged and stolen from Trump via "vote cheating."
Give the link please.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2020, 06:17 PM
You buy their nuggets.

pgardn
11-12-2020, 06:18 PM
Just keep buying into MSM. They would never intentionally mislead you, pgardn. That would be unethical. :rolleyes

NYT
WaPo
Wall Street Journal.

On the whole, I will take any of these three if its not editorial.

Give me your 3 go to's.

And the best article you got on the election being stolen from Trump via after vote manipulation. Trump claims he has won, you believe it, the numbers given say otherwise.
Post the article.

Dirks_Finale
11-12-2020, 06:21 PM
NYT
WaPo
Wall Street Journal.

On the whole, I will take any of these three if its not editorial.

Give me your 3 go to's.

And the best article you got on the election being stolen from Trump via after vote manipulation. Trump claims he has won, you believe it, the numbers given say otherwise.
Post the article.

I didn't say any of that :lol

ChumpDumper
11-12-2020, 06:25 PM
I didn't say any of that :lolWell, let's clear this up.

Do you believe Biden won the election without cheating?

Yes or no.

pgardn
11-12-2020, 06:33 PM
I didn't say any of that :lol

So you believe Biden won the election.
Sorry for the mix up.
Oh and I said the bolded part about the numbers say otherwise. Because they do.
And since you did not say this, what do you say about the numbers.
Lets stop playing around, just give me your articles.