View Full Version : Moderna Coronavirus Vaccine Nearly 95% Effective, Early Data Shows
ducks
11-16-2020, 09:33 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-effective-120529642.html
pgardn
11-16-2020, 09:40 AM
Ducks going lefty MSM with the huffer?
You are automatically thrown off the red team.
Let’s hope we get one of these vaccines to be very effective quickly so things can get back to normal. it’s going to be a bit late for this way we are experiencing right now. We need kids back in school amongst others and people out of their houses. The derpage created by this virus due to being shut in is frightening.
boutons_deux
11-16-2020, 09:52 AM
advertised as 95% effective prophylactic, but what about safety?
SnakeBoy
11-16-2020, 10:01 AM
Trump vaccines are perhaps the greatest vaccines ever
Winehole23
11-16-2020, 10:16 AM
Trump vaccines are perhaps the greatest vaccines everall hype, zero availablility to the general public so far
(fingers crossed)
hater
11-16-2020, 10:17 AM
President Biden will save us :tu
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 10:27 AM
Trump vaccines are perhaps the greatest vaccines everSure changed your tune from "virus gonna git you" fatalism.
CosmicCowboy
11-16-2020, 11:03 AM
Can't believe what these vaccine announcements do to the damn stock market. Solid tech growth stocks go down, shit stocks like JC Penny go up. Go figure.
CosmicCowboy
11-16-2020, 11:07 AM
I did dodge a bullet Friday, though. I was looking into companies that make super cold freezers which are gonna be required for the Pfizer vaccine. I figured they would be swamped with orders. Now the Mederna checks out and it only requires regular refrigeration.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:10 AM
Can't believe what these vaccine announcements do to the damn stock market. Solid tech growth stocks go down, shit stocks like JC Penny go up. Go figure.Makes a little sense if it's expecting a return to relative normalcy for brick and mortar stores and working at offices.
CosmicCowboy
11-16-2020, 11:11 AM
Makes a little sense if it's expecting a return to relative normalcy for brick and mortar stores and working at offices.
JC Penny was shit before the covid.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:15 AM
JC Penny was shit before the covid.True, but if it owns a lot of store properties....
Or it may be news that has nothing to do with vaccines at all.
TimDunkem
11-16-2020, 11:21 AM
True, but if it owns a lot of store properties....
Or it may be news that has nothing to do with vaccines at all.
Dumb question but are these long-term or short-term outlooks?
I know the hope peddlers on tv say shots will be in arms by December but, between the logistics and actually getting people to take it - assuming it is indeed approved and sent out by then, it's safe, effective, etc - how much will that actually improve the situation? The virus is going to ravage the country in the meantime possibly to the point of lockdowns. Or is this all looking ahead to 2021 and beyond?
It's also worth noting Moscow Mitch is going to let millions sit in food lines and miss their rent by denying them a stimulus. How many people are actually buying overpriced JC Penny crap even if Christmas is coming?
ducks
11-16-2020, 11:27 AM
advertised as 95% effective prophylactic, but what about safety?
450k died this year from smoking
25k from second hand smoking
But still producing smokes
ducks
11-16-2020, 11:28 AM
all hype, zero availablility to the general public so far
(fingers crossed)
Dr said end of dec
This year
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:31 AM
Dumb question but are these long-term or short-term outlooks?
I know the hope peddlers on tv say shots will be in arms by December but, between the logistics and actually getting people to take it - assuming it is indeed approved and sent out by then, it's safe, effective, etc - how much will that actually improve the situation? The virus is going to ravage the country in the meantime possibly to the point of lockdowns. Or is this all looking ahead to 2021 and beyond?
It's also worth noting Moscow Mitch is going to let millions sit in food lines and miss their rent by denying them a stimulus. How many people are actually buying overpriced JC Penny crap even if Christmas is coming?Could be anything with JCP. The new owners might be close to coming out of bankruptcy and the market just likes it.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:33 AM
Dr said end of dec
This yearNot for rubes like you and me.
Q2 2021
Brazil
11-16-2020, 11:41 AM
advertised as 95% effective prophylactic, but what about safety?
I read minor side effects... 95% effect is great tbh... also simple cooling seems ok for conservation... great news overall. I read they have been ordered 20 M doses vs. 300 M of pfizer
Pfizer CEO probably was aware of Moderna results and rushed announcement of his to level up share value...
CosmicCowboy
11-16-2020, 11:54 AM
I read minor side effects... 95% effect is great tbh... also simple cooling seems ok for conservation... great news overall. I read they have been ordered 20 M doses vs. 300 M of pfizer
Pfizer CEO probably was aware of Moderna results and rushed announcement of his to level up share value...
He also sold 60% of his stock the same day when it peaked after the announcement.
SnakeBoy
11-16-2020, 11:59 AM
I know the hope peddlers on tv say shots will be in arms by December but, between the logistics and actually getting people to take it - assuming it is indeed approved and sent out by then, it's safe, effective, etc - how much will that actually improve the situation?
It all depends on if it's a sterilizing vaccine or a protective vaccine. We don't know yet but all indications are that it is a protective vaccine. If it is protective then we need to know if it reduces viral load enough to slow the spread. If vaccinated people still spread the virus easily then the road ahead is very long.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 12:02 PM
Dumb question but are these long-term or short-term outlooks?
I know the hope peddlers on tv say shots will be in arms by December but, between the logistics and actually getting people to take it - assuming it is indeed approved and sent out by then, it's safe, effective, etc - how much will that actually improve the situation? The virus is going to ravage the country in the meantime possibly to the point of lockdowns. Or is this all looking ahead to 2021 and beyond?Expect 2021 to be like 2020, only getting better at the end of it.
Rubes gonna rube.
Will Hunting
11-16-2020, 12:19 PM
:lol if Trump launched Warp Speed 1 month earlier these vaccine announcements would have come before Election Day.
Theres like 5 things he royally fucked up and if he even did 1 of them correctly, he easily flips Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia. Good thing he’s a lazy fatass.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 12:23 PM
:lol if Trump launched Warp Speed 1 month earlier these vaccine announcements would have come before Election Day.
Theres like 5 things he royally fucked up and if he even did 1 of them correctly, he easily flips Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia. Good thing he’s a lazy fatass.:lol May 15 Dennison was still laboring under Jared's assertion that the economy would be really rocking by July.
Brazil
11-16-2020, 01:11 PM
He also sold 60% of his stock the same day when it peaked after the announcement.
yeah.. a big piece of shit
yeah.. a big piece of shit
Perfectly legal to sell stock after it's been publicly announced.
Brazil
11-16-2020, 01:41 PM
Perfectly legal to sell stock after it's been publicly announced.
it's a bit more complicated than that bro... the selling schedule plan has been put together in 2019 and the announcement of the 90% efficiency of their vacine was the day before the deadline. how convenient isn't it ? Test results were planned to be announced in October but then suddenly he requested patience. :lol
Winehole23
11-16-2020, 01:42 PM
Perfectly legal to sell stock after it's been publicly announced.Conservatives used to drone on sanctimoniously about character and ethics and morality, now they just get snippy about what's legally allowed. :tu
it's a bit more complicated than that bro... the selling schedule plan has been put together in 2019 and the announcement of the 90% efficiency of their vacine was the day before the deadline. how convenient isn't it ? Test results were planned to be announced in October but then suddenly he requested patience. :lol
If it's not legal the SEC will flag it.
Conservatives used to drone on sanctimoniously about character and ethics and morality, now they just get snippy about what's legally allowed. :tu
Pfizer's major shareholder is Vanguard group. In 2020 almost 60% of their political donations went to Democrats.
Trainwreck2100
11-16-2020, 05:53 PM
Pfizer's major shareholder is Vanguard group. In 2020 almost 60% of their political donations went to Democrats.
So 40% of their donations went to Republicans
boutons_deux
11-16-2020, 06:12 PM
Conservatives used to drone on sanctimoniously about character and ethics and morality, now they just get snippy about what's legally allowed. :tu
when $$$ is in the air, ethics and moratliy are inoperative.
aka
everybody is for sale, has a price
politicians and judges are particularly cheap
Ef-man
11-16-2020, 06:34 PM
Correct on percentages.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/vanguard-group/totals?id=D000022305
So 40% of their donations went to Republicans
phxspurfan
11-16-2020, 07:04 PM
Moderna storage at -4*F for 6 months, Pfizer -94*F for 6 months. Crazy different shelf life
phxspurfan
11-16-2020, 07:06 PM
:lol if Trump launched Warp Speed 1 month earlier these vaccine announcements would have come before Election Day.
Theres like 5 things he royally fucked up and if he even did 1 of them correctly, he easily flips Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia. Good thing he’s a lazy fatass.
Seriously. The only silver lining of Covid. Exposed his stupidity. Too bad 1M people will have to die for his stupidity.
CosmicCowboy
11-16-2020, 07:10 PM
Yep. I think the Phiser guy knew they were gonna kick his ass and rushed to announce early and cash out on the frenzy.
SnakeBoy
11-16-2020, 07:57 PM
Yep. I think the Phiser guy knew they were gonna kick his ass and rushed to announce early and cash out on the frenzy.
Agree. I wouldn't think there was anything fishy about his sale except that he dumped over 60% of his holdings the day of the announcement.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 07:57 PM
Great news for scared Karen's
SnakeBoy
11-16-2020, 07:59 PM
Great news for scared Karen's
Are you going to take the vaccine?
So 40% of their donations went to Republicans
Last I checked 60% was more.
Seriously. The only silver lining of Covid. Exposed his stupidity. Too bad 1M people will have to die for his stupidity.
Seeing how 70m voted for him afterward, not a bad percentage.
Winehole23
11-16-2020, 08:21 PM
Pfizer's major shareholder is Vanguard group. In 2020 almost 60% of their political donations went to Democrats.More deflection and pettifogging, best to stick your strengths, eh?
tholdren
11-16-2020, 08:27 PM
Are you going to take the vaccine?
No
Why would I do that?
Trainwreck2100
11-16-2020, 08:27 PM
Last I checked 60% was more.
So what is still a shitload of money.
Winehole23
11-16-2020, 08:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHRU04ipUU
Conservatives pissed off Moderna and Pfizer timed their announcements *not * to help Trump win the election, gets the Arkansas guffaw.
HAW HAW HAW
PLHRU04ipUU
SnakeBoy
11-16-2020, 08:32 PM
No
Why would I do that?
Good choice. These mRNA ones write themselves into your DNA plus they will all have tiny microchips in them made out of gold.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 08:38 PM
Good choice. These mRNA ones write themselves into your DNA plus they will all have tiny microchips in them made out of gold.
I am not afraid of death
I am 10 years from any risk higher than driving
I dont need the government to save me
ElNono
11-16-2020, 09:02 PM
I am not afraid of death
I am 10 years from any risk higher than driving
I dont need the government to save me
You're also wrong all the time.
You fold all the time.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 09:14 PM
You're also wrong all the time.
You fold all the time.
Look at this guy. So triggered. 136k posts. Lol doesn't get more science than that.
ElNono
11-16-2020, 09:20 PM
Look at this guy. So triggered. 136k posts. Lol doesn't get more science than that.
Can't even deny it. foldren folds.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 09:24 PM
Look at this guy. So triggered. 136k posts. Lol doesn't get more science than that.
Bwahahaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahaa what a waste. He wants to lockdown so he can be popular
What a life!!!
ElNono
11-16-2020, 09:31 PM
^ meltdown... this is so easy :lol
So what is still a shitload of money.
and 70m is a shit load of votes but Trump still lost. The majority of the money from that group goes to the Dems, so if someone wishes to call that company immoral, they need to start looking at who owns it.
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 10:50 PM
and 70m is a shit load of votes but Trump still lost. The majority of the money from that group goes to the Dems, so if someone wishes to call that company immoral, they need to start looking at who owns it.Got a shareholder list?
More deflection and pettifogging, best to stick your strengths, eh?
pettifogging like a frippet, and the tomfoolery
Got a shareholder list?
hurr durr Google
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 10:53 PM
hurr durr GoogleSo no, you don't have a shareholder list.
Now say you're ignoring me.
So no, you don't have a shareholder list.
Now say you're ignoring me.
2nd largest shareholder gave 70% to Dems.
chop chop chirp chirp :lmao
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:00 PM
2nd largest shareholder gave 70% to Dems.
chop chop chirp chirp :lmao70% of what?
His own donations?
Let's see your list.
:lol Chirpderper David not knowing how major shareholding works :lol
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:03 PM
:lol Chirpderper David not knowing how major shareholding works :lol:lmao DMC folds
Now he's going to flood the zone with shit.
David says... go find something on Google and run back.
No?
David says you fold.
:lmao
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 11:07 PM
David says... go find something on Google and run back.
No?
David says you fold.
:lmaoYou never had a list.
All you had to say was no.
But you had to meltdown again.
:lmao "David"
That's how everyone can tell u mad.
You can't even admit I schooled you on infer vs. imply.
You're brittle.
Brazil
11-17-2020, 08:12 AM
If it's not legal the SEC will flag it.
I thought it has been flagged already but I may be wrong.
I looked up a bit more on this topic tbh... What I understood is the following, they built up a plan in 2019 to sell automatically shares when their value pass a threshold. The day of the announcement share went up 7% putting the value above the said threshold triggering the sale. Looking up that way it does not seem there is any manipulation. What probably happened tho is Pfizer announcing in a rush to anticipate Moderna annoucement, they probably knew that their vacine was more promising, announcing a 90% positive result after Moderna 94% would mean share value decrease rather than increase.
One thing is for sure in terms of communication pfizer and his ceo could have managed a lot better
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