****OFFICIAL Week 11 Game Thread, Sponsored By the Decline of Russell Wilson****

[Millennial_Messiah]

Thursday Night: Arizona @ Seattle (FOX/NFLN)


NFL TV Schedule and Maps: Week 11, 2020 November 22, 2020 All listings are unofficial and subject to change. Check back often for updates.

NATIONAL BROADCASTS


CBS SINGLE
https://506sports.com/2020/11-CBS.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Tennessee @ Baltimore
Jim Nantz, Tony Romo

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Pittsburgh @ Jacksonville
Ian Eagle, Charles Davis

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New England @ Houston
Andrew Catalon, James Lofton

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Cincinnati @ Washington
Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta

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Miami @ Denver (LATE)
Kevin Harlan, Trent Green

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NY Jets @ LA Chargers (LATE)
Greg Gumbel, Rich Gannon




FOX EARLY https://506sports.com/2020/11-FOX-E.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Atlanta @ New Orleans
Kevin Burkhardt, Daryl Johnston

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Philadelphia @ Cleveland
Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth

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Detroit @ Carolina
Kevin Kugler, Chris Spielman



FOX LATE https://506sports.com/2020/11-FOX-L.png █ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Green Bay @ Indianapolis
Joe Buck, Troy Aikman

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Dallas @ Minnesota
Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma



Sunday Night: Kansas City @ Las Vegas (NBC)
Monday Night: LA Rams @ Tampa Bay (ESPN)

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Oh great, get to listen to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Oh great, get to listen to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.

LET'S GO COLTS BABY!! <3 #HoosierTime :smokin

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm actually a huge Buck fan as a play by play announcer. Apeman I can live without, he's basically a Madden robot style announcer.

[Darth_Pelican]

DhfpQcL1ETc

[phxspurfan]

watching Kyler Murray play QB is very frustrating tbh

[spurraider21]

watching Kyler Murray play QB is very frustrating tbh
you think thats bad try watching minshew

[phxspurfan]

you think thats bad try watching minshew

DHops has 2 targets, 7 yards. Even Aikman has called it out.

[Robz4000]

Both Struggle and Murray have missed their best receivers being wide open several times tonight tbh.

[phxspurfan]

fuckin finally Murray throws a ball to a receiver and not 8 yards behind him

[phxspurfan]

Shehawks playing dirty per par

[Robz4000]

:lmao Cardinals

[phxspurfan]

yess another 5 point week for DHops because Murray couldnt get over himself

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao getting sacked on the final play of the game against a 3 man rush. :rollin

[Spurtacular]

Another team bails out Seattle. Happens every season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUCEAPc1Ub8

[Darth_Pelican]

Taysom Hill might get the start after all. Crab Legs must be throwing picks in practice.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1329798998652293120

[Millennial_Messiah]

Taysom Hill might get the start after all. Crab Legs must be throwing picks in practice.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1329798998652293120
doubt they'll use the gadget plays so much in that case. Limits their playbook for sure.

[Darth_Pelican]

doubt they'll use the gadget plays so much in that case. Limits their playbook for sure.

Yeah. It's Hill's dress rehearsal to see if he can actually throw the ball. Falcons have the 31st ranked passing D in the league, and you know they're going to stack the box against him. If he can't make the throws in this game, then he simply isn't going to have a future as a staring NFL quarterback. If the first 3 possessions go: 3 & out, 3 & out, turnover, then we might see Crab Legs check in.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah. It's Hill's dress rehearsal to see if he can actually throw the ball. Falcons have the 31st ranked passing D in the league, and you know they're going to stack the box against him. If he can't make the throws in this game, then he simply isn't going to have a future as a staring NFL quarterback. If the first 3 possessions go: 3 & out, 3 & out, turnover, then we might see Crab Legs check in.
Kamara could dominate though. Could be one of those games where the OL wins in spite of the QB. Even against eight or nine men in the box. Who knows.

Taysom Hill could be competent or he could be Tebow, but putting Crab Legs in the game is asking for turnovers.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Michael Thomas is the MVP of the Saints though not so much Brees. Not only is he the best possession receiver in the NFL but he's also arguably the best run blocking WR.

[Darth_Pelican]

Michael Thomas is the MVP of the Saints though not so much Brees. Not only is he the best possession receiver in the NFL but he's also arguably the best run blocking WR.

Thomas was MVP last year, Kamara is this year. Thomas has only played 3 games and Kamara tore it up even without him run blocking.

[spurraider21]

my office fantasy league is on ESPN, where Hill is TE eligible. good thing i scooped him up before this was announced :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Thomas was MVP last year, Kamara is this year. Thomas has only played 3 games and Kamara tore it up even without him run blocking.
but they lost a game they certainly needed to win and would have won with Thomas in the lineup. That GB home loss is going to really sting as we get closer to January. Bad on the NFL for scheduling it too early in the season, obviously they don't know when injuries will hit but they shouldn't have scheduled both Tampa games so early and the GB home game so early.

[Millennial_Messiah]

my office fantasy league is on ESPN, where Hill is TE eligible. good thing i scooped him up before this was announced :lol

so he still gets fantasy QB points as a TE and they still count towards your total even if you have him at TE? Idk how that works :lol

[Darth_Pelican]

my office fantasy league is on ESPN, where Hill is TE eligible. good thing i scooped him up before this was announced :lol

:lol This has been a top trending topic

https://trends24.in/united-states/

[spurraider21]

so he still gets fantasy QB points as a TE and they still count towards your total even if you have him at TE? Idk how that works :lol
you get all the stats. if you have a WR who throws a passing TD on a trick play you'd get those points too

[Millennial_Messiah]

you get all the stats. if you have a WR who throws a passing TD on a trick play you'd get those points too

nice, good to know :tu OBJ has been involved in quite a few of these over the years with both the Giants and Browns

[Arcadian]

Why was Arizona's offensive line completely fucking awful? Every single play Murray was getting rushed, knocked down, hit, and/or sacked. And he hurt his shoulder because of it.

[Darth_Pelican]

lmao@ this article. I guess this guy didn't see Teddy start over Taysom last season despite his race.

https://deadspin.com/white-qb-starts-for-saints-over-more-qualified-black-qb-1845725823

[Millennial_Messiah]

lmao@ this article. I guess this guy didn't see Teddy start over Taysom last season despite his race.

https://deadspin.com/white-qb-starts-for-saints-over-more-qualified-black-qb-1845725823

Deadspin is the Onion but for sports.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why was Arizona's offensive line completely fucking awful? Every single play Murray was getting rushed, knocked down, hit, and/or sacked. And he hurt his shoulder because of it.

The chumpettes laughed at me when I said AZ's offensive line was atrocious in the Murray/Minshew thread, but here we are. millennial messiah on point yet again. :tu

They also aren't good run blockers either. if they didn't have a 4.27 speed QB they would be a 2-14 team with that anemic front 7 on defense and that o-line, no matter how good their WRs are.

All game long... false starts, false start, holding, sack, false start, holding, false start, sack, false start, holding in the endzone, sack. It was only fitting that the final play was a sack allowed vs. a 3-man rush. :lol

[phxspurfan]

Michael Thomas is the MVP of the Saints though not so much Brees. Not only is he the best possession receiver in the NFL but he's also arguably the best run blocking WR.

Pretty sure best possession receiver is now Keenan Allen. Thomas can run 1 route (and I have owned him for 2 years in fantasy so I watch as many games of his as I can).

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pretty sure best possession receiver is now Keenan Allen. Thomas can run 1 route (and I have owned him for 2 years in fantasy so I watch as many games of his as I can).

possession receiver isn't about who can run the best route tree, who is the best route runner or whether or not he's a slot receiver, it's about who you can rely best on for the short throws, volume catches, the unspectacular but tough catches in traffic, tough short to mid catches just ahead of the sticks on 3rd and 4th down to retain *possession* of the football, hence the term possession receiver. That would be Thomas in a nutshell.

[phxspurfan]

possession receiver isn't about who can run the best route tree, who is the best route runner or whether or not he's a slot receiver, it's about who you can rely best on for the short throws, volume catches, the unspectacular but tough catches in traffic, tough short to mid catches just ahead of the sticks on 3rd and 4th down to retain *possession* of the football, hence the term possession receiver. That would be Thomas in a nutshell.

Have you seen him lately? He's a shell of his 2019 self. I'll take Keenan Allen if the game was tomorrow.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Have you seen him lately? He's a shell of his 2019 self. I'll take Keenan Allen if the game was tomorrow.

he's barely played or practiced this year.

[phxspurfan]

The chumpettes laughed at me when I said AZ's offensive line was atrocious in the Murray/Minshew thread, but here we are. millennial messiah on point yet again. :tu

They also aren't good run blockers either. if they didn't have a 4.27 speed QB they would be a 2-14 team with that anemic front 7 on defense and that o-line, no matter how good their WRs are.

All game long... false starts, false start, holding, sack, false start, holding, false start, sack, false start, holding in the endzone, sack. It was only fitting that the final play was a sack allowed vs. a 3-man rush. :lol

How do you explain Kyler pulling the ball out from Kenyan Drake's chest before he ran for the first down (without the ball) while Kyler ran straight into the linebacker on a critical 3rd down

[phxspurfan]

he's barely played or practiced this year.

Fuck, I'll also take Amare Cooper and DHops over Thomas this year. They are both on my fantasy team and I've seen them both pretty much every week they've played. I might even take Jarvis Landry and Thielen as a toss up with Thomas right now.


This is aside from the play of all of their shitty QBs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fuck, I'll also take Amare Cooper and DHops over Thomas this year. They are both on my fantasy team and I've seen them both pretty much every week they've played. I might even take Jarvis Landry and Thielen as a toss up with Thomas right now.


This is aside from the play of all of their shitty QBs.

Amari Cooper is pure garbage time stats. :lol Thrives only against soft zones, completely wilts against any halfway competent man coverage.

[SpursforSix]

Fuck, I'll also take Amare Cooper and DHops over Thomas this year. They are both on my fantasy team and I've seen them both pretty much every week they've played. I might even take Jarvis Landry and Thielen as a toss up with Thomas right now.


This is aside from the play of all of their shitty QBs.

Hopkins easily. Even if he just ran the same one route as Thomas, he'd have more separation and could do more after the catch.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Week 11 football baby, prime of the season, let's go!!

[Millennial_Messiah]

I've been saying it all week... Steelers are going to lose today. This is the exact type of game they lose.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Kareem Hunt was short.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao :rollin Wentz throws another Pick 6

[DAF86]

Saints missing Brees.

[phxspurfan]

Michael Thomas drops an easy ball and leads to a missed FG. Come on Mike

[phxspurfan]

Wow Deshaun Watson ran over 2 dudes for that score

[i'm_still_beta]

Fraudgers would snap the ball here creating penalty for Patriots (too many men on the field)

[i'm_still_beta]

By the way Watson is having impressive season. Too bad he's playing for the bad team

[Millennial_Messiah]

By the way Watson is having impressive season. Too bad he's playing for the bad team

and the Dolphins ( a playoff team this year ) own their pick, which is not protected in any way. Texans have zero incentive to lose.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Three man rush and Wentz still runs into a sack.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Guess the Steelers aren't losing today. :(

[DAF86]

Guess the Steelers aren't losing today. :(

Of course they weren't going to lose vs the fricking Jaguars. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

No Brees, no problem tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Of course they weren't going to lose vs the fricking Jaguars. :lol

They have before, multiple times

They lose these kinds of early slate road games against inferior opponents most years

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Wentz sacked in the endzone for a safety, doesn't get rid of the ball even after 5 seconds of quality pass protection.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Looks like a torn knee for Joe Burrow. Oh well, was a solid rookie season. There goes the "Tua is the only injury prone guy not Burrow" argument.

[DAF86]

They have before, multiple times

They lose these kinds of early slate road games against inferior opponents most years

The Jaguars suck almost as much as the Jets right now, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Wentz throws another pick in the endzone, taking points away from his team.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Jaguars suck almost as much as the Jets right now, tbh.

Main problem for both teams is QB. Darnold can never stay healthy and the Jags don't have a competent QB on the roster. Trevor Lawrence should stay for his senior year if the draft order is Jags or Jets at #1 tbh.

[DAF86]

Time to put up or shut up for Lamar.

[DAF86]

NE losses yet another one possession game.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Wentz picked again

[DAF86]

Saints with another solid performance.

[DAF86]

:lmao Wentz picked again

Time for the hook?

[Raven]

strictly lost because of cum.. sure, we're taking, but he'll be out of the league next year, at this rate

[Millennial_Messiah]

SMH if the Titans Ravens game ends in a tie. That would be dreadful for the AFC and NFL in general.

[Millennial_Messiah]

strictly lost because of cum.. sure, we're taking, but he'll be out of the league next year, at this rate

you don't beat Baltimore and Vegas then tank.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Time for the hook?

"Carson Winston" is an adequate nickname, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Carson wINTston tbh

[DAF86]

strictly lost because of cum.. sure, we're taking, but he'll be out of the league next year, at this rate

With another QB you wouldn't be able to even move the ball.

[i'm_still_beta]

At least Cam was able to statpad at the end

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao RG8 when he actually has to pass the ball.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jackson lucky that wasn't ruled a fumble

[Millennial_Messiah]

DERRICK HENRY FOR THE WIN !!!!

#TeenTitans #TitanUp #TennesseePride #TitansOwnBaltimore

[i'm_still_beta]

Henry

[Darth_Pelican]

Good job by Taysom. He managed the game well and his only mistake was the fumble. Defense dominated; 8 sacks & 2 interceptions.

[DAF86]

Ravens not the getting the benefit of the doubt from me anymore, tbh.

[DAF86]

Tua has been put on the perfect situation with this Miami team, tbh. Only 1 for 3, but that one completation is a 3 yards TD pass courtesy of a defense interception and a strong running game.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ravens not the getting the benefit of the doubt from me anymore, tbh.

they were always a one dimensional team and the league finally figured them out

[DAF86]

they were always a one dimensional team and the league finally figured them out

I will wait to see if they get knocked out of the playoffs before claiming they have been "figured out". I still think they are a playoffs team, but they are clearly not the second best team in the conference right now.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Let's go Colts!!! Must win

[Millennial_Messiah]

I will wait to see if they get knocked out of the playoffs before claiming they have been "figured out". I still think they are a playoffs team, but they are clearly not the second best team in the conference right now.

they haven't won a playoff game in the jackson era

[Millennial_Messiah]

god damn the jets are suck

[DAF86]

god damn the jets are suck

I should have gone with Chargers over Jets on the survivor thread :(

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao that's what you get for throwing to Shitty Schultz when you also have Lamb, Cooper and Gallup on the field. Dumbass Red Ryder BB Gun.

[i'm_still_beta]

4-eyed twink should use more powerful glasses

[Millennial_Messiah]

That's why you throw to CeeDee Lamb instead of some bum ass tight end.

[GAustex]

Hey MM
Got an update on the GB game?

[i'm_still_beta]

Colts kicker is so unlucky today.

[GAustex]

Cook got lit up. Dback knocked himself out blasting Cook

[Millennial_Messiah]

Donovan Wilson is playing at a pro bowl level at strong safety. Cowboys secondary a million times better since he's been plugged into the starting lineup.

[Arcadian]

10-0 :smokin

[Millennial_Messiah]

CD Lamb and Thielen are superstars

[Millennial_Messiah]

Hey MM
Got an update on the GB game?

GTFO ST

[GAustex]

You mad?

[Spurtacular]

Fake 15 yard face mask against the Vikings. Cowboyrefs on their game.

[i'm_still_beta]

Dodgers looking for flag :lmao

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

About fucking time Taylor shows some decent vision

[Millennial_Messiah]

Let's go Colts Defense!! Come on

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dodgers looking for flag :lmao

:lol Fraudgers
:lol barely beat Jacksonville

[Millennial_Messiah]

If not for 4 eyes kicker the pukers would be put in their place. Still a lot of game to go. 28-28. Go Indy defense.

Worried about Rivers though. Brissett can't beat Fraudgers :(

[Millennial_Messiah]

he made one

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dolphins in jeopardy of being upset :wow in Denver

[i'm_still_beta]

:hungry:

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jets Chargers getting interesting? 8 point game. Chargers were up 27 earlier.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Colts center apologizing and giving an explanation on the line.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

God damnit

[Raven]

the nfl basically lost two generations of QBs.. Brady, BigRape, Brees and Rogers still dominating is just embarrassing

[Millennial_Messiah]

why the fuck did they bench Tua for Fitztragic? They deserved that ending. :(

[Millennial_Messiah]

God damnit

who's playing QB tbh? I didn't see the last series but i saw Indy got another FG

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

who's playing QB tbh? I didn't see the last series but i saw Indy got another FG

Rivers took a shot and went into the medical tent. Colts special teams forced a fumble. Rivers was still in the tent and Jacoby came in. Taylor had a rushing TD called back because of a hold.

[SuperCam]

no excuses for Fraudgers now :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

COLTS GET OFF THE FIELD ON FOURTH DOWN!!!!! :toast

[Darth_Pelican]

why the fuck did they bench Tua for Fitztragic? They deserved that ending. :(

Because Tua got injured

[Millennial_Messiah]

need Rivers back to clinch this game, tbh... Brissett won't get it done

[Millennial_Messiah]

just win this game, baby, Rivers, Colts, I don't care if you win another one all year, just win this one, baby, please...

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao defense thinks they're playing against Fraudgers in practice with all these offsides penalties.

:lol Green Goobers

[Millennial_Messiah]

:bang stop throwing to Faggot Shit Schultz

[Millennial_Messiah]

ugh packeref penalties...

[Millennial_Messiah]

Colts should go for this... do NOT kick the FG... punt is OK but definitely don't kick the FG... but go for it tbh

[SuperCam]

peckerref running out of flags to throw :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

FIRST DOWN COLTS!!!!


TOUCHDOWN COWBOYS!!!!


:toast :toast :toast :toast :toast

[DAF86]

FIRST DOWN COLTS!!!!


TOUCHDOWN COWBOYS!!!!


:toast :toast :toast :toast :toast

You are off the tanking bandwagon? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

peckerref running out of flags to throw :lol

Apparently not. And the Colts fucking threw the ball incomplete :bang dumb playcalling

[i'm_still_beta]

PacksRef has no shame. Never seen anything like that

[Spurtacular]

Hand going forward but starting to fumble already on the throw. This is maybe the fuzziest rule in the league.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You are off the tanking bandwagon? :lol

Cowboys are going to win the division tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Hand going forward but starting to fumble already on the throw. This is maybe the fuzziest rule in the league.

Nope, not that fuzzy. Hand was not moving forward with control.

ColtRefs I guess.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Colts with atrocious game management on offense, though, why'd they throw the ball tbh? Should have been maximum 35 seconds left with no timeouts and a punt and a long field.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

That was the worst series of plays I've ever seen.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Wow

[Millennial_Messiah]

FUCK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[GAustex]

Cowboys are going to win the division tbh.
And get Rodgers in the first round

[DAF86]

Cowboys are going to win the division tbh.

That was a quick 180 son. :lol

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Penalties literally killed the Colts, they had the game won.

[Millennial_Messiah]

And get Rodgers in the first round

Are you fucking stupid? Who do you think is going to win the NFC North? Do you know how NFL playoff seeding works?

[DAF86]

And get Rodgers in the first round

You are planning on making the playoffs as a wild card team? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Penalties literally killed the Colts, they had the game won.

yeah, goodell's favorite team is pretty obvious tbh. Just blow a fucking glass crater in the shit ass rust belt already.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You are planning on making the playoffs as a wild card team? :lol

Exactly. The NFC North won't get a wild card team in. You're looking at the Saints, Bucs, Cardinals or Rams.

[SuperCam]

any packer fan celebrating this is a flaming fggot. this was goodell calling it for fraudgers on those consecutive bs holds

[Millennial_Messiah]

let's go Colts defense!

[Millennial_Messiah]

FUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! :toast :toast :toast :smokin

[GAustex]

Shank it

[Darth_Pelican]

Got an update on the GB game?

They lost 34-31

[Millennial_Messiah]

Let's go 4-Eyes!!! MAKE IT BABY!!! :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

They lost 34-31

Bourbon Street Bye Week tbh :toast

[i'm_still_beta]

Goodell is already in handcuffs, right?

Rodgers is fraud

Better team won :downspin:

[Darth_Pelican]

any packer fan celebrating this is a flaming fggot. this was goodell calling it for fraudgers on those consecutive bs holds

I’ve never seen that amount of holding calls in my life. They weren’t even trying to hide it.

[Darth_Pelican]

Bourbon Street Bye Week tbh :toast

Tons of football left

[Millennial_Messiah]

YES SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:lol Fudge Packers
:lol Pukers
:lol Pissconsin
:lol Pissconsin Voter Fraud
:lol Fraudgers
:lol Green Gay
:lol Puke and Piss


COLT UP baby :smokin

[Millennial_Messiah]

Goodell is already in handcuffs, right?

Rodgers is fraud

Better team won :downspin:

Cue the Rasheed Wallace quote....


BALL DON'T LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smokin

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Hotrod with the game winner. What a crazy ass game. Defense was phenomenal in the 2nd half.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Tons of football left

I think Seattle wins the 3 way tiebreaker because of better strength of schedule/strength of victory, if NO/GB/SEA all finish with 3 losses. Unless NO loses another AFC game (they still have Chiefs on schedule) then it's Saints at #1, Seahawks at #2 and Fudge packers at #3

[Millennial_Messiah]

Hotrod with the game winner. What a crazy ass game. Defense was phenomenal in the 2nd half.

:toast :toast :toast :toast :toast

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I’ve never seen that amount of holding calls in my life. They weren’t even trying to hide it.

It was insane. The next series though Rodgers had an hour to complete that bomb to MVS. I'm sure there wasn't any holding there either.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Cowboys are making the playoffs this year after all!!! Lol Eagles.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It was insane. The next series though Rodgers had an hour to complete that bomb to MVS. I'm sure there wasn't any holding there either.

Their LT Bakhtiari gets away with the most holding on pass/scramble plays that I've ever seen, and it's been that way for about a decade.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Their LT Bakhtiari gets away with the most holding on pass/scramble plays that I've ever seen, and it's been that way for about a decade.

It was literally every time they ran the boot leg i noticed he was holding. That and the Packers LT moving early on multiple plays. Oh well fuck A A ron! Congrats on da Boyz win too. :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

Always a great Football Sunday when the Cowboys win and the Green Gay Goobers get defeated. :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

It was literally every time they ran the boot leg i noticed he was holding. That and the Packers LT moving early on multiple plays. Oh well fuck A A ron! Congrats on da Boyz win too. :toast

Yep; Also congrats on figuring out how to stop the Cowboys run game in 2018 and laying the blueprint for the Rams on how to beat us that year. :( But yeah. I was pulling hard for you guys. AFC South is a two horse dog fight.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Wow :wow no points for that, but Harrison Butker's leg is STRONG. That was a 75 yard field goal he drilled. :wow And it would have been good from 90.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Raiders are good this year.

[Millennial_Messiah]

spurraider21 where you at bro tbh? :lol

[DAF86]

Cowboys are making the playoffs this year after all!!! Lol Eagles.

The Giants might have something to say about that, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Giants might have something to say about that, tbh.

good thing the Cowboys already have the tiebreaker edge there. Giants are the 2nd best team but garrett and a mediocre defense will hold them back.

[DAF86]

lol this Chiefs' defense can't stop the Raiders.

[Millennial_Messiah]

after staring down the schedules in the NFC for some time, my gut says it's gonna be::

1) Seahawks, at 13-3
2) Saints, at 12-4
3) Packers, at 12-4
4) Cowboys, at 7-9
5) Buccaneers, at 12-4
6) Cardinals, at 10-6
7) Rams, at 9-7

[spurraider21]

Weak PI gifted them a TD

Not that they need the help

[spurraider21]

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) where you at bro tbh? :lol
Watchin the game tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

Weak PI gifted them a TD

Not that they need the help

IMO it took a TD away from Mahomes and gave a rushing TD to CEH, tbh. 1 less notch for the Mahomes MVP argument. But honestly who else? The ratio is historically insane. Rodgers and Wilson have been throwing picks lately. Brady has too many picks.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Watchin the game tbh

:lmao :rollin

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When they name a play “James Harden” you know it’s not going to involve a pass.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol "james harden" audible by Carr

[Millennial_Messiah]

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The Raiders’ James Harden play involved no passing, a whole lot of steps, and very little payoff

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[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Gruden kicking a FG on 4th and goal from the 1

[DAF86]

:lmao Gruden kicking a FG on 4th and goal from the 1

It was 4th and 16 after the penalty.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It was 4th and 16 after the penalty.

Yeah, that was on Gruden too for bitching about the no-call instead of designing a proper 4th and goal from the 1 play.

[DAF86]

That Raiders O-line is legit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That Raiders O-line is legit.

I guess we can all eat crow on the Tom Cable signing in 2018, correct?

[spurraider21]

That Raiders O-line is legit.
They’re missing 2/5 starters

[DAF86]

I guess Mahomes was due an interception.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol whelp, there goes "det ratio" tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

now Mahomes is reduced to Nick Foles ratio status tbh.

[DAF86]

That seems like a catch and Robinson losing control of the ball after hitting the ground. Could go either way though.

[DAF86]

now Mahomes is reduced to Nick Foles ratio status tbh.

Foles has a 13 to 1 TD to INT ratio? :lol

[DAF86]

Chiefs' defense looking like it's 2018.

[spurraider21]

Raiders settling for that FG seems massive right now. Have to punch it in here

[DAF86]

That guy Waller seems decent, they might want to cover him, tbh.

[DAF86]

Can Jones and co. do anything?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Foles has a 13 to 1 TD to INT ratio? :lol

yes

27 to 2 in 2013, and he didn't even play the first 6-7 games of that season (Michael Vick).

[DAF86]

That play right there is why you never PI as a defensive back. Just give the receiver the opportunity to miss the catch.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Wentz/Pederson: "Now THAT's the Agholor I know well..."

[spurraider21]

Carr threw a fucking dime too

Agholor has been inconsistent his whole career but has been having a solid year. Damn shame he couldn’t catch that one.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's too bad Dak broke his leg, because he'd be legit in the thick of the MVP race by this point tbh and the Cowboys would have a COMMANDING lead in the division. It'd be all but locked up by this point.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Carr threw a fucking dime too

Agholor has been inconsistent his whole career but has been having a solid year. Damn shame he couldn’t catch that one.

yeah, his best play in Philly was in the playoffs those years with Foles at QB, to me it was looking like Wentz was the problem with Agholor's career, not Agholor himself. But he should have caught that last one.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Abram is such a goddamn penalty machine.

[DAF86]

Why not throw the flag there, instead of using the TO outright?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not too long ago Reid would have punted on this down. He finally grew a brain last year, IMO.

Next step would be to incorporate the Mahomes sneak on more x & 1 sitations, tbh. Can't play pansy football. If Brady can do it at age 44, Mahomes can in his 20s.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why not throw the flag there, instead of using the TO outright?

they weren't going to punt tbh, :lol

[Mark Celibate]

The Giants might have something to say about that, tbh.

rofl

have a feeling this division is gonna come down to our Week 17 game against the Giants at The Bot's house for all the marbles. And of course Dulla$$ will come up short per par etc

[DAF86]

they weren't going to punt tbh, :lol

I know, so? :lol

Where did I say anything about punting? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

I know, so? :lol

Where did I say anything about punting? :lol

you said why didn't they take the flag instead of calling the timeout, I thought you were referring to the 4th & 2 play, where if they were punting they definitely should have just taken the delay of game and punted on 4th & 7 from near midfield.

[Millennial_Messiah]

rofl

have a feeling this division is gonna come down to our Week 17 game against the Giants at The Bot's house for all the marbles. And of course Dulla$$ will come up short per par etc
& it's going to be on sunday night football. Battle of who gets to be 8-8 and win this ghastly division

[Mark Celibate]

& it's going to be on sunday night football. Battle of who gets to be 8-8 and win this ghastly division

* 6-10

[DAF86]

you said why didn't they take the flag instead of calling the timeout, I thought you were referring to the 4th & 2 play, where if they were punting they definitely should have just taken the delay of game and punted on 4th & 7 from near midfield.

No, I meant "throwing the flag" as in challenge the rulling on the field that Mahomes stepped out of bounds. You probably lose the challenge, but if you are going to call a TO anyways, why not do it to see what happens?.

[Millennial_Messiah]

* 6-10

:lol perhaps. But I do think Dallas will beat WFT on Thursday, beat Cincinnati, split the Eagles and probably beat the depleted hungover 49ers. That leaves at Baltimore which is likely (but not surely) a loss, and the last NYG game.

[spurraider21]

Raiders last drive was run-run-pass-punt.

In a game where Carr had been next to flawless, they took the wind out of their own sails

[Millennial_Messiah]

No, I meant "throwing the flag" as in challenge the rulling on the field that Mahomes stepped out of bounds. You probably lose the challenge, but if you are going to call a TO anyways, why not do it to see what happens?.

Ah, now that makes perfect sense. :tu

But you never know when the loss of challenge hurts as well, remember the Saints Cowboys game a couple years ago where the Cowboys' Cole Beasley's knee was down on a critical 3rd down conversion but it wasn't called and Sean Payton was only 1/2 on challenges earlier in the game so he couldn't challenge a third time.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol that's the fullback, not Waller kiddo

[DAF86]

Chiefs might be better off just letting the Raiders score right now. I don't trust that D stopping Carr, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Tbh, if it gets to 4th down and they're in FG range, do the Raiders still have time to kick a FG and then kick deep and play defense?

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol stop throwing to that dumb fullback

[DAF86]

How do you miss that intentional grounding?

[DAF86]

Refs fucked the Chiefs over, tbh.

[DAF86]

Just let them score.

[DAF86]

Or not.

[Blake]

1. The refs suck tonight

2. L Bell still has all star talent

[Millennial_Messiah]

Kick the FG if it gets to 4th down? They still have time to kick the FG, recover onside kick, then plenty of time to get back in FG range

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jason Witten is clutch.

[DAF86]

Kick the FG if it gets to 4th down? They still have time to kick the FG, recover onside kick, then plenty of time to get back in FG range

You don't take your chances on an onside recovery when you are inside the opponents 10 yard line, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Too much time for Mahomes to get in FG range

Or... throw a pick

[Millennial_Messiah]

You don't take your chances on an onside recovery when you are inside the opponents 10 yard line, tbh.

agreed

[Millennial_Messiah]

have a feeling Mahomes will come up short here

[Robz4000]

:lol way too easy for Mahomes

[DAF86]

75 yards in 1 minute. :lol

[Pelicans78]

Lol Jonathan Abram. Head-hunting idiot.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Patrick Mahomes (2020): 27 TDs, 2 INTs
Nick Foles (2013): 27 TDs, 2 INTs

Patrick Mahomes: 1 Super Bowl Championship, 1 Super Bowl MVP
Nick Foles: 1 Super Bowl Championship, 1 Super Bowl MVP

Mahomes = Foles

[DAF86]

Poor Carr, didn't deserve that. :lol

[DAF86]

No doubt who the MVP is so far. And without the need of stat whoring TD's of less than 10 yards like uncle Tom, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

75 yards in 1 minute. :lol

I liked the longer XP, but never agreed with the rule change changing touchbacks from starting at the 20 to starting at the 25. Just made it too easy for offenses, especially those with above average QBs. Used to be a chance for the defense, but no more.

The only newer rule that's even more stupid than that one is changing the OT periods from 15 minutes down to 10, greatly increasing the probability for ties, which are the worst thing to happen in an NFL match.

I hope they do nix the 17 game season idea, but the 7-team per conference playoff format was at least a decade overdue tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

No doubt who the MVP is so far. And without the need of stat whoring TD's of less than 10 yards like uncle Tom, tbh.

Big Rottenburger?

[DAF86]

Big Rottenburger?

Nope, the guy that leads the league on yards and rating, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nope, the guy that leads the league on yards and rating, tbh.

yup, but BR is 10-0 and it's hard to argue with that tbh.

[spurraider21]

Carr played near flawless and we killed 2 drives trying to establish the run on first and second downs. agholors drop was massive. i had no doubt mahomes was going to come away with a TD that last drive.

raiders got bailed out with the non call on intentional grounding, but chiefs got bailed out with the terrible PI call to set up first and goal earlier, so i didnt think it swung big either way.

hell of a game, cant even be mad.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Carr played near flawless and we killed 2 drives trying to establish the run on first and second downs. agholors drop was massive. i had no doubt mahomes was going to come away with a TD that last drive.

raiders got bailed out with the non call on intentional grounding, but chiefs got bailed out with the terrible PI call to set up first and goal earlier, so i didnt think it swung big either way.

hell of a game, cant even be mad.

Can't be mad with a hard-fought season split against the best coached team/best quarterbacked team in football. Carr was definitely "up for the challenge" in both meetings. :tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

Should be a good MNF for a change.

[spurraider21]

Can't be mad with a hard-fought season split against the best coached team/best quarterbacked team in football. Carr was definitely "up for the challenge" in both meetings. :tu
Outside of their early interest in making a play for Tom GOAT Brady, I always thought the national media blew the "Is Carr's time in Vegas running out" narrative way out of proportion. Gruden clearly liked him, and Carr individually played pretty well for most of 2019 as well. The Mariota signing added fuel to the fire... but really it never seemed Carr's job was being threatened unless he had a complete face-plant season.

One of the big knocks on Carr in recent years had also been that he tended to shrivel against KC, which had been true. But this year his two best games of the season have come against the Chiefs, and tbh he played nearly flawless last night. That just came down to "who has the ball last" (not counting a 28 second possession needing to score a TD).

The Raiders still have a road to the playoffs with head to head matchups against the Colts/Dolphins left, in addition to some weaker competition like Atlana/Jets/Broncos, + a home game against the Chargers.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Andy Dalton looked pretty competent now that Zach Martin was back in the line up. Cowboys looked better in the red zone as well then compared to the first couple weeks.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Outside of their early interest in making a play for Tom GOAT Brady, I always thought the national media blew the "Is Carr's time in Vegas running out" narrative way out of proportion. Gruden clearly liked him, and Carr individually played pretty well for most of 2019 as well. The Mariota signing added fuel to the fire... but really it never seemed Carr's job was being threatened unless he had a complete face-plant season.

One of the big knocks on Carr in recent years had also been that he tended to shrivel against KC, which had been true. But this year his two best games of the season have come against the Chiefs, and tbh he played nearly flawless last night. That just came down to "who has the ball last" (not counting a 28 second possession needing to score a TD).

The Raiders still have a road to the playoffs with head to head matchups against the Colts/Dolphins left, in addition to some weaker competition like Atlana/Jets/Broncos, + a home game against the Chargers.

yeah you'll defintely get into the playoffs with 3 wild card spots available.

I've never had Carr outside my top 15 since 2016, fwiw :tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

Andy Dalton looked pretty competent now that Zach Martin was back in the line up. Cowboys looked better in the red zone as well then compared to the first couple weeks.

not just "in the line up", but at right tackle, the most important pass protection position on the modern NFL offensive line; since the best pass rushers of today play left end/left outside linebacker because it's a clearer shot to the quarterback for a right-handed edge rusher.

Terrence Steele at RT was just atrocious... might as well play with 4 offensive linemen in that case. Connor McGovern is a solid RG and should replace Williams at LG next year when the starting tackles return.

[spurraider21]

yeah you'll defintely get into the playoffs with 3 wild card spots available.

I've never had Carr outside my top 15 since 2016, fwiw :tu
while i think the non-elite QBs tend to be more or less products of their situation, i do think the version of Carr we've seen this year, particularly the 2 games against the Chiefs, are the best he's ever been. even better than his 2016 season.

what really stands out is the way he's been maneuvering in the pocket and dealing with pressure. he still has his moments but overall has looked much more comfortable sliding around and adjusting angles. there was even a play i saw yesterday that looked just like Peyton with the old jitterbug feet. was really cool to see.

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i dont think he missed a throw all game besides the last INT in desperation mode. he suffered a handful of drops but they kept scoring anyway.

whats been disappointing is the lack of productivity from Ruggs and Edwards (edwards has missed most of the year), especially when CeeDee is making spectacular hopkins-like plays already

[i'm_still_beta]

while i think the non-elite QBs tend to be more or less products of their situation, i do think the version of Carr we've seen this year, particularly the 2 games against the Chiefs, are the best he's ever been. even better than his 2016 season.

what really stands out is the way he's been maneuvering in the pocket and dealing with pressure. he still has his moments but overall has looked much more comfortable sliding around and adjusting angles. there was even a play i saw yesterday that looked just like Peyton with the old jitterbug feet. was really cool to see.

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i dont think he missed a throw all game besides the last INT in desperation mode. he suffered a handful of drops but they kept scoring anyway.

whats been disappointing is the lack of productivity from Ruggs and Edwards (edwards has missed most of the year), especially when CeeDee is making spectacular hopkins-like plays already

Yep, he was great

[Millennial_Messiah]

especially when CeeDee is making spectacular hopkins-like plays already

I love CeeDee and he is indeed very Hopkins like, but I think Justin Jefferson and Chase Claypool overall are better... they're better route runners imo, like faster versions of Keenan AllenR


Ruggs is more Desean Jackson... he's going to stretch the field, mostly be a decoy, his production won't be great especially in terms of catches, he might do damage as a returner, and he will miss a third of every season with some misc injury (usually hamstrings).

[spurraider21]

I love CeeDee and he is indeed very Hopkins like, but I think Justin Jefferson and Chase Claypool overall are better... they're better route runners imo, like faster versions of Keenan AllenR


Ruggs is more Desean Jackson... he's going to stretch the field, mostly be a decoy, his production won't be great especially in terms of catches, he might do damage as a returner, and he will miss a third of every season with some misc injury (usually hamstrings).
Jefferson has been outstanding. He showed all the tools at LSU, was great at contested catches, showed good route running and a good catch radius. The big concern with him coming out was that he played on a stacked offense with Burrow, JaMar Chase was their #1 WR, and that Jefferson was playing almost exclusively out of the slot. There were legitimate concerns of whether he could be a true starting outside WR or if he was just going to be a big slot guy like Juju (not that there isn't value in that role). When he ran a good 40 time, it told scouts he had legit outside WR potential, but it still involved projection.

Vikings did really well moving Diggs for a 1st rounder (and not having to pay him) while landing Jefferson who will likely turn in a 1200+ yard rookie season.

I'd still easily take CeeDee over Claypool though

[DAF86]

while i think the non-elite QBs tend to be more or less products of their situation, i do think the version of Carr we've seen this year, particularly the 2 games against the Chiefs, are the best he's ever been. even better than his 2016 season.

what really stands out is the way he's been maneuvering in the pocket and dealing with pressure. he still has his moments but overall has looked much more comfortable sliding around and adjusting angles. there was even a play i saw yesterday that looked just like Peyton with the old jitterbug feet. was really cool to see.

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i dont think he missed a throw all game besides the last INT in desperation mode. he suffered a handful of drops but they kept scoring anyway.

whats been disappointing is the lack of productivity from Ruggs and Edwards (edwards has missed most of the year), especially when CeeDee is making spectacular hopkins-like plays already

Gruden needs to take a page out of Andy Reid's book and use Ruggs like Hill. Use him on jet sweeps, screens, and quick slants. If you only have him going deep, he's not going to get involved much in games, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jefferson has been outstanding. He showed all the tools at LSU, was great at contested catches, showed good route running and a good catch radius. The big concern with him coming out was that he played on a stacked offense with Burrow, JaMar Chase was their #1 WR, and that Jefferson was playing almost exclusively out of the slot. There were legitimate concerns of whether he could be a true starting outside WR or if he was just going to be a big slot guy like Juju (not that there isn't value in that role). When he ran a good 40 time, it told scouts he had legit outside WR potential, but it still involved projection.

Vikings did really well moving Diggs for a 1st rounder (and not having to pay him) while landing Jefferson who will likely turn in a 1200+ yard rookie season.

I'd still easily take CeeDee over Claypool though
yeah they came out about even in the Diggs trade getting Jefferson and it's a win because the latter is on a rookie deal and the former is a prima donna and an AB headcase waiting to happen. But the Vikings got a lot worse on defense and it shows.

I'd definitely take CeeDee over Jeudy, Ruggs or Reagor... Mims has turned out to be awful... Jefferson I would rank as my WR1 so far... it's a toss up between CeeDee/Claypool but the latter has better stats.

[spurraider21]

yeah they came out about even in the Diggs trade getting Jefferson and it's a win because the latter is on a rookie deal and the former is a prima donna and an AB headcase waiting to happen. But the Vikings got a lot worse on defense and it shows.

I'd definitely take CeeDee over Jeudy, Ruggs or Reagor... Mims has turned out to be awful... Jefferson I would rank as my WR1 so far... it's a toss up between CeeDee/Claypool but the latter has better stats.
think its way too early to judge mims. he's only played like 3 games or something and it's been with Flacco/Gase :lol. i still think he's a real player.

i dont think ruggs/reagor/jeudy are really in the discussion yet, they dont look like they're going to be real impact guys year 1. that used to be the case for most WR's, that they'd start slower and build up in years 2 or 3. but with all the amazing rookies last year (in what was not supposed to be a great WR class), and with guys like jefferson/lamb/claypool hitting the ground running, thats almost becoming the expectation now.

but its way way too early to be writing any of these guys off.

[Millennial_Messiah]

think its way too early to judge mims. he's only played like 3 games or something and it's been with Flacco/Gase :lol. i still think he's a real player.

i dont think ruggs/reagor/jeudy are really in the discussion yet, they dont look like they're going to be real impact guys year 1. that used to be the case for most WR's, that they'd start slower and build up in years 2 or 3. but with all the amazing rookies last year (in what was not supposed to be a great WR class), and with guys like jefferson/lamb/claypool hitting the ground running, thats almost becoming the expectation now.

but its way way too early to be writing any of these guys off.
agree, but look at the 2016 class, it was hyped up as a very good class and all of the top ones turned out to be a bust. Michael Thomas wasn't drafted until day two. 2017 was fairly similar tbh. People said give them time, but in the modern NFL it's a "hit the ground running or hit the road jack" league, guys like Treadwell and Doctson and Coleman and John Ross were can't miss prospects, that just didn't make it in the NFL

[DAF86]

Ramsey bailed the Bucs out with that stupid penalty. Brady was already in deep shit in the pocket.

[DAF86]

How many food stamps do the Rams plan to gift the Bucs? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

How many food stamps do the Rams plan to gift the Bucs? :lol
All black officiating crew, so MAGA Brady gets all the calls. Go figure.