Quick thoughts on the Spurs drafting Devin Vassell and Tre Jones

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-pick-devin-vassell-tre-jones-2020-nba-draft/

More draft content soon. Plus have to switch gears to free agency soon, too.

[Light]

If Vassell, Jones, and Q are replacing Belli, Mills, and Forbes, than that's a step in the right direction, imo

[SpursDynasty85]

https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-pick-devin-vassell-tre-jones-2020-nba-draft/

More draft content soon. Plus have to switch gears to free agency soon, too.

Good stuff. Was disappointed that Spurs didn’t draft a behemoth size-wise but these picks were solid and great value at face. The Brian Wright interview made it seem they have a lot of work to do in the off-season which I’m hoping they get good value for LMA and Derozan and possibly one or two other roster players in trades.

[Light]

Brian Wright post draft interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucG3JRWPA0

[BillMc]

Thanks OP

[Prime BEEF]

Brian Wright post draft interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucG3JRWPA0
This team, this organization and the fans are in a world of hurt with this guy helping run things.

[Rummpd]

Good article and picks.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Thanks for always taking the time.

Jones was one of the guys I had on my list at 41, so I can't bitch no matter who else was around. I think you captured him perfectly, and it's something the Spurs really needed.

I was never as sold on Vassell as a lot of you, for a couple of reasons. First, "elite help defense" is sort of an ass-backwards compliment, because it's also saying that he's not very good on the ball. Second, I was really concerned after seeing that video of him shooting. I know a lot of people have offered explanations about it being late in a practice, and he was just screwing around. I don't like the idea of a true shooter screwing around with his stroke - I'd like it much better if he was disciplined and reinforcing his fundamental shot. I said it before - if Vassell comes out of the gate draining 3's, rotating perfectly, and hitting the floor for loose balls, we got something. But if his 3P stroke isn't there, he's not even an NBA player. "Elite help defender" isn't enough. That's a lot of pressure on a young guy.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

It's hard to view this draft as a success. The Spurs front office stood pat and made zero moves in a draft when it seems like every team in the league was able to move up and down the draft board in pursuit of their preferred players. The Spurs have assets and clear needs in the front court. There were so many higher ceiling guys available in this draft and they got two solid role players in positions of strength.

I don't think Vessel projects as having a higher ceiling than Lonnie Walker or Keldon Johnson, and I can't understand how backup PG is a position of need we have White, Murray, Mills, and Weatherspoon already competing for minutes. This is mind boggling. That said, LJ has been advocating for a combo guard for a while, seems like he and the Spurs are on the same wave length here about wanting to run micro lineups for the foreseeable future. What a boring brand of basketball.

[C-Dub]

Really solid picks. Vassell and Jones will play in the G-league most of the season with Vassell probably getting called up a few games at a time with some playing time with the main squad. The Spurs may keep DDR and LMA, which I'm not excited about but it is what it is for now but it will eventually be over for those 2 with the Spurs either by the trade deadline (depending on playoff chances) or at the end of the season. Patty will not be traded because of Corporate Knowledge and leadership for the young guys. Forbes and Marco are not getting resigned which is a huge positive for the team. Need to resign Jakob. Samanic will split time with the G-league and main squad and will be ready to start next season after LMA is gone. So for me, it's more about next season than this season. Next season's squad could look something like this which is a step in the right direction especially with all the DEFENSIVE PLAYERS that will be on the team:

1. DJM, DW, KJ, Luka, Jakob
2. QW, LW4, Vassell, Lyles, Drew
3. Tre-J, FA, FA, 1st Rd Pick, 2nd Pk.

Not bad because KJ, DJM, White, LW4, Vassell, Samanic, QW, Jakob and Drew will all be more seasoned and with whatever veteran FA's the Spurs can snag to go along with this group. I can see starting with this year, 2 more years of missing the playoffs but afterwards a really good PESKY DEFENSIVE TEAM that can lock down opposing teams. Spurs are going against the grain with defense before offense and will be ahead of the game when it comes to this style of play again. Even Bell Bottom Pants and Afro's came back around so you better believe that DEFENSE is going to come back around and the Spurs will set the standard!

[Atl Spur]

Devin has that dawg in him hopefully; We are wing deep i’m happy! Luka, poodle, Lamarcus, Lyles ,Eubanks is a large enough front court...... jerami grant would be nice. Versatility will be our calling card

[DPG21920]

Good read - thanks. I’m happy with who Sa came away with picking at 11/41. Just wish they ended up with more picks in this draft.

Defense matters again. Bury Forbes/Mills/Beli for good now in free agency.

[vy65]

Brian Wright post draft interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucG3JRWPA0

This guy has diversity hire written all over him.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Devin has that dawg in him hopefully; We are wing deep i’m happy! Luka, poodle, Lamarcus, Lyles ,Eubanks is a large enough front court...... jerami grant would be nice. Versatility will be our calling card

Grant would be the perfect addition for us. Do we have room to make that happen?

[exstatic]

Grant would be the perfect addition for us. Do we have room to make that happen?

No, not right now. He’d probably cost too much, even if they would cut one of their low guarantee contracts. We’re at 15 right now, so Trey will likely have to go the two way contract route.

[kobyz]

When i'm hearing all the experts describing Vassell i'm thinking they talking about Paul George as he first came to the league

[duncan2150]

It's hard to view this draft as a success. The Spurs front office stood pat and made zero moves in a draft when it seems like every team in the league was able to move up and down the draft board in pursuit of their preferred players. The Spurs have assets and clear needs in the front court. There were so many higher ceiling guys available in this draft and they got two solid role players in positions of strength.

I don't think Vessel projects as having a higher ceiling than Lonnie Walker or Keldon Johnson, and I can't understand how backup PG is a position of need we have White, Murray, Mills, and Weatherspoon already competing for minutes. This is mind boggling. That said, LJ has been advocating for a combo guard for a while, seems like he and the Spurs are on the same wave length here about wanting to run micro lineups for the foreseeable future. What a boring brand of basketball.

The spurs need a true PG since a long time. A guy who can defend and pass the ball, a kind of floor manager. Tre Jones is something like that, yes he would need a lot of work but he is a spurs need imo.

[Dejounte]

I'm disappointed in not ever knowing what would have happened if Jalen Smith was there at 11th and what the Spurs would have done. Glad to learn other teams rated him as high as me after all the time I spent preaching how good he is. He might become a good contributor with Chris Paul on his team. Well, he is not a Spur now and I wish him the best, but now I have to actively root against him.

On Vassell, on this site I had been the most critical of him because of two things: his frame and his knack for taking boneheaded shots on offense

For his frame, Brian Wright commented on how they will focus on improving his functional strength first. I don't believe Vassell would ever be the answer to guarding the tall point forwards like LeBron, Paul George, Deni, Giannis because he's just not built for it-- that will be Keldon's job. But now that I think of it, we have way more guards in the league than we do point forwards who wreak havoc on us and that's where Vassell will come in and help a lot.

For his boneheaded shots, I guess this will be an easy fix with coaching and the fact that he is unselfish and willing to learn.

In the end, I like what someone said how he could be our Klay Thompson... a big guard who shoots from everywhere on the floor and can defend well. Of course, Klay is a generational shooter so Vassell has a lot of work to do.

The most disappointing thing is that we still only have Keldon as the only player who is not afraid to bully his way into the paint. He's going to take a beating for years to come if we don't address that.

[Dejounte]

Safe to say Saddiq Bey was a huge smoke mirror by the Spurs, eh timvp? So glad we didn't end up with him.

[TimDunkem]

The picks were fine. Still no direction for the franchise though and that's going to lead to the same outcome it did last season.

[Mugen]

tl;dr have fun in Austin! :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Thank you. Great draft and I'm glad they didn't give up anything to get the guys they got.

[Darius Bieber]

I'm just hoping not drafting Haliburton won't bite us in the ass

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Spurs Took OVERTME to make the 11th pick. They were still trying to make a deal or a deal they made fell through with a partner and were in the midst of it.

Reporter ask him about this this dude gets cute makes remarks about his beard then confirms they were trying to "look at the whole board....ect"

Now if Devin "was the guy" why did they go over the allotted time to make this obvious pick? People been ragging on this dudes GM skills and qualifications(including me) but this dude should NEVER play poker because he has too many tells.

In Some scenario in either of my minds eye I think the delay was
A. Poop putting the kybosh on a Trade for LMA and Weisman that involved the Spurs Picking a player of GS choice (or a 3rd team) which all contributed to the over time pick.
B. Same scenario as above but the 3rd team backed out and fucked the Spurs
C. The Same scenario as above but the GS warriors Fucked the spurs.

If I'm wrong the future GM of the Spurs is a moron and really didn't know who da fook to pick at 11 even after all the time, Even if they wanted to and thought they were going to get Jaylen Smith at 11 but Suns picked him at 10 they shouldn't have had to take all that time to go with the next available. If this dude is running a competent front office. This last scenario is a possibility as well.

They wanted Smith but Suns got him and they had to scramble because they didn't really have a #2 choice

They may have been doing rock, paper, scissors deciding between Vassell and Haliburton, and kept having to start over. My sources say Pop kept yelling "hammer" every time he heard the word "rock", thereby confusing everyone involved.

[Tailboar]

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-draft-2020-the-five-best-defenders-in-the-draft-wiseman-okongwu-okoro-vassell-jones/b4i7pxy9s1v61bjvbvwz18t47

Just saw this little gem from two weeks ago.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-draft-2020-the-five-best-defenders-in-the-draft-wiseman-okongwu-okoro-vassell-jones/b4i7pxy9s1v61bjvbvwz18t47

Just saw this little gem from two weeks ago.

And the Spurs nabbed two of them...nice.

I am happy the Spurs focused on guys who can defend, and also what appears to be two character guys. Should bode well for the future.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Granted, this is from a biased fansite:


https://balldurham.com/2020/11/18/duke-basketball-spurs-land-biggest-steal-draft-blue-devil-star-guard/

[BillMc]

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-draft-2020-the-five-best-defenders-in-the-draft-wiseman-okongwu-okoro-vassell-jones/b4i7pxy9s1v61bjvbvwz18t47

Just saw this little gem from two weeks ago.

Nice find.

[EricB]

tl;dr have fun in Austin! :lol


hes not playing in Austin outside of days the team isn’t playing.

[cjw]

No, not right now. He’d probably cost too much, even if they would cut one of their low guarantee contracts. We’re at 15 right now, so Trey will likely have to go the two way contract route.

I don’t see Metu being in the roster, so that puts them at 14 (10 other guys rostered + Poeltl + Eubanks + QW + Vassell). It actually wouldn’t surprise me to see the Spurs use part of the MLE to sign Tre to a longer contract above the minimum allowed for second rounders to keep a cost-controlled backup PG on the roster for the next 3-4 seasons.

On top of that, they’re not necessarily done making moves. I highly doubt the 14 guys listed above are all on the roster in a few weeks.

[NickiRasgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCvjuiG814


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ-jrHrfc5k

[MannyIsGod]

Is the G League even happening at this point?

[Dejounte]

I hope timvp acknowledges the whole Saddiq Bey fiasco

The fact is that they had Vassell rated higher than Bey

Did they throw a smokescreen for Bey hoping someone in the top 10 would bite? So that someone like Jalen Smith would drop?

Was it actually a leak for a trade they had in place with the Warriors but it broke down because of the news about Thompson?

It's clear that the Spurs leaked the shit out of liking Bey without any intention of drafting him.

[KobesAchilles]

This team, this organization and the fans are in a world of hurt with this guy helping run things.
This team, this organization, this fan, this England

[Rummpd]

The problem is there is one is that despite a relatively successful on paper draft the team is basically standing pat with a mediocre team with 2 misfit stars at least the way it is played. Hard to get excited as the young potential talents remain enigmatic and/or not tested/played enough. Not a good time to be a Spurs fan right now honestly.

[Dejounte]

The problem is there is one is that despite a relatively successful on paper draft the team is basically standing pat with a mediocre team with 2 misfit stars at least the way it is played. Hard to get excited as the young potential talents remain enigmatic and/or not tested/played enough. Not a good time to be a Spurs fan right now honestly.

I don't believe there won't be a clear transition next season showcasing more of the young guys. We will see Keldon more in a featured role. I don't doubt that one bit. Whether that leads to wins, we will see.

[bluebellmaniac]

They may have been doing rock, paper, scissors deciding between Vassell and Haliburton, and kept having to start over. My sources say Pop kept yelling "hammer" every time he heard the word "rock", thereby confusing everyone involved.

LOL!

[R. DeMurre]

This team, this organization, this fan, this England

:lol

[TheCerebral1]

If Vassell, Jones, and Q are replacing Belli, Mills, and Forbes, than that's a step in the right direction, imo

I agree with this sentiment.

[exstatic]

The problem is there is one is that despite a relatively successful on paper draft the team is basically standing pat with a mediocre team with 2 misfit stars at least the way it is played. Hard to get excited as the young potential talents remain enigmatic and/or not tested/played enough. Not a good time to be a Spurs fan right now honestly.

Getting rid of Forbes and Marco, and replacing them with DV and Jones is a huge swing.

[DPG21920]

Getting rid of Forbes and Marco, and replacing them with DV and Jones is a huge swing.

What about Mills and Rudy?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ-jrHrfc5k


Tre is a pretty great young kid. I could see him becoming a fan favorite. I hope he exceeds his draft position.

[TD 21]

I'd have considered selecting Haliburton and either selling high on White or preferably dumping Murray, but despite something of a bittersweet feeling to see Avdija get close and Haliburton be available and them pass, I still like the Vassell pick and he could easily end up the best of the bunch.

Don't hate the Jones pick, but it was annoying to see Woodard go one pick before (just can't get a big wing). Thought Tillie would have made for a more interesting flyer.

Can't help but get the feeling that Walker is on the clock . . .

- White is the current best of the bunch and most Spurs-y
- Murray they foolishly jumped the gun on contractually and he lacks positive re-sale value
- Johnson looks better in limited viewing
- Vassell is probably plug and play and definitely high floor

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I'm disappointed in not ever knowing what would have happened if Jalen Smith was there at 11th and what the Spurs would have done. Glad to learn other teams rated him as high as me after all the time I spent preaching how good he is. He might become a good contributor with Chris Paul on his team. Well, he is not a Spur now and I wish him the best, but now I have to actively root against him.

On Vassell, on this site I had been the most critical of him because of two things: his frame and his knack for taking boneheaded shots on offense

For his frame, Brian Wright commented on how they will focus on improving his functional strength first. I don't believe Vassell would ever be the answer to guarding the tall point forwards like LeBron, Paul George, Deni, Giannis because he's just not built for it-- that will be Keldon's job. But now that I think of it, we have way more guards in the league than we do point forwards who wreak havoc on us and that's where Vassell will come in and help a lot.

For his boneheaded shots, I guess this will be an easy fix with coaching and the fact that he is unselfish and willing to learn.

In the end, I like what someone said how he could be our Klay Thompson... a big guard who shoots from everywhere on the floor and can defend well. Of course, Klay is a generational shooter so Vassell has a lot of work to do.

The most disappointing thing is that we still only have Keldon as the only player who is not afraid to bully his way into the paint. He's going to take a beating for years to come if we don't address that.

I actually think the Spurs were hoping to take him at 11. I have no evidence outside of what the speculation was in the Smith prospect thread, but it's clear to me that there was a big drop off from Smith to the other bigs and they seemed to settle for a wing once he was gone.

I just wish they had traded for another 1st round pick to go get Precious, or at least an early 2nd to get a guy like Oturu (who I'm very high on) or Carey.

[cd98]

He's a positional need (6'7 small forward) and may be most talented at the draft spot. So I think this is an easy call and I saw a lot of mock drafts that had VAssell going to the Spurs at 11.

[Leetonidas]

6'7" with a 6'11" wing span and known for being a defensive player and 3 pointer shooter? Exactly what we needed tbh.

Jones I'm not as sold on given his size and who we already have on the roster

[Dejounte]

He's a positional need (6'7 small forward) and may be most talented at the draft spot. So I think this is an easy call and I saw a lot of mock drafts that had VAssell going to the Spurs at 11.

Shooting guard is his preferred position, says it himself at 8:30.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCvjuiG814

[ZeusWillJudge]

I'd have considered selecting Haliburton and either selling high on White or preferably dumping Murray, but despite something of a bittersweet feeling to see Avdija get close and Haliburton be available and them pass, I still like the Vassell pick and he could easily end up the best of the bunch.

Don't hate the Jones pick, but it was annoying to see Woodard go one pick before (just can't get a big wing). Thought Tillie would have made for a more interesting flyer.

Can't help but get the feeling that Walker is on the clock . . .

- White is the current best of the bunch and most Spurs-y
- Murray they foolishly jumped the gun on contractually and he lacks positive re-sale value
- Johnson looks better in limited viewing
- Vassell is probably plug and play and definitely high floor


I wanted Haliburton, and I'm sort of surprised he didn't go higher.


Vassell has a high floor IF he keeps making 3's. I don't have an easy feeling about that. If he can't knock 'em down, he has a really, really low floor.

[Dejounte]

Examples of my reservations about Devin:

1) Will be ineffective against big wings (3's) due to his lack of strength:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5idpYGZTLdHNkx27bhwRha7V9bdn92XwvAYWWPBdMH_W2k0SRO cQ5VWH5DekutI4kW7sbZae9BNEaazZ-SLfFgg60Jdu_R6zJCXwnCs5pMwxTSC6Enzl11wZWmscJNAtrtx mrV97

Bad decision-making on offense:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/3LN-OiF6Z7Ag1PglW4rpsyDFqAbEsrbKwS4BNzDnss4__GyjS7bONO Iq1bb5m8hwIztqSe3MwnOjyLkf9iipAK_KROtJGCYaN5uNk3cr WImwjQhpSWdGj6ASI6vGeHFBQEUqgekE

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/2fZBGXSpHsQvgK1mDLMI3HUNcZZnV5viU4T3fByoRw34j3jH81 6zrURHh7fsDO86S9KxOU48CFygOVLQhG3M01pok71mV4Kb5XjZ i_bMB0JtkJTIxejjmVXoWR_4dNHvke9xbkZS

3) Poor finisher, unable to draw fouls:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MUVLQOcATGwnHPqhnWlqVuuu3ZXnAfVJMcyTULLxJiE7HyDtz5 DCT42yawPY9XsgKVAHEkkHqHHMsB9DEmulR5jy-bS-i9L6J5GQ7f5kEIPmVW2krQHjr1Dk2eppeTM_Jf0voqKw

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/VHoFeru-m0YlvAvVl4g-tkm4LkMhKkO_IsN7Zn4Sv1Kfenvqu5SpTVVFCbfJPleAHlJLOs qfEjvpmc7rIKOMDMyVQzQv_X45OET8k4smUI6i7Y9VAzhLjd4J oj9RvBwj7Aq_h9xh

His real effectiveness lies in defending 1's and 2's:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/MH6OR0KfgnpfIK6uNNW3ZAzEqM--eTv3UTVKCQG9Ax24hAYVRjz8SpO2O7SmKjWV1Ua-hb7VT1-_xd2ZcyTcz5GQASfXsO6nKfNpOxSP6SgsjSYpJBm5dCThAvhcr dMttSeHIFW_

[R. DeMurre]

The Spurs didn't whiff given the circumstances, but it doesn't feel like they did anything spectacular either. Saying we improved defensively because Vassell and Tre are better defenders than Forbes and Beli is an awfully low bar.

[tonight...you]

Examples of my reservations about Devin:

1) Will be ineffective against big wings (3's) due to his lack of strength:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5idpYGZTLdHNkx27bhwRha7V9bdn92XwvAYWWPBdMH_W2k0SRO cQ5VWH5DekutI4kW7sbZae9BNEaazZ-SLfFgg60Jdu_R6zJCXwnCs5pMwxTSC6Enzl11wZWmscJNAtrtx mrV97

Bad decision-making on offense:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/3LN-OiF6Z7Ag1PglW4rpsyDFqAbEsrbKwS4BNzDnss4__GyjS7bONO Iq1bb5m8hwIztqSe3MwnOjyLkf9iipAK_KROtJGCYaN5uNk3cr WImwjQhpSWdGj6ASI6vGeHFBQEUqgekE

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/2fZBGXSpHsQvgK1mDLMI3HUNcZZnV5viU4T3fByoRw34j3jH81 6zrURHh7fsDO86S9KxOU48CFygOVLQhG3M01pok71mV4Kb5XjZ i_bMB0JtkJTIxejjmVXoWR_4dNHvke9xbkZS

3) Poor finisher, unable to draw fouls:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MUVLQOcATGwnHPqhnWlqVuuu3ZXnAfVJMcyTULLxJiE7HyDtz5 DCT42yawPY9XsgKVAHEkkHqHHMsB9DEmulR5jy-bS-i9L6J5GQ7f5kEIPmVW2krQHjr1Dk2eppeTM_Jf0voqKw

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/VHoFeru-m0YlvAvVl4g-tkm4LkMhKkO_IsN7Zn4Sv1Kfenvqu5SpTVVFCbfJPleAHlJLOs qfEjvpmc7rIKOMDMyVQzQv_X45OET8k4smUI6i7Y9VAzhLjd4J oj9RvBwj7Aq_h9xh

His real effectiveness lies in defending 1's and 2's:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/MH6OR0KfgnpfIK6uNNW3ZAzEqM--eTv3UTVKCQG9Ax24hAYVRjz8SpO2O7SmKjWV1Ua-hb7VT1-_xd2ZcyTcz5GQASfXsO6nKfNpOxSP6SgsjSYpJBm5dCThAvhcr dMttSeHIFW_
He can develop. This kid is not a finished product. I get the trepidation though.

[Dejounte]

He can develop. This kid is not a finished product. I get the trepidation though.

Yes, all prospects can develop lol.

I guess my point is that my extreme distaste for Devin centered around the fact that I didn't believe we needed a prospect whose main positive was guarding 1's and 2's. Perhaps I let my preferences get the best of me and pushed me overboard in my distaste towards him. You learn about yourself in every draft is what I said before. This will equip me to temper my preconceived biases of things I like and dislike in prospects.

[tonight...you]

Yes, all prospects can develop lol.

I guess my point is that my extreme distaste for Devin centered around the fact that I didn't believe we needed a prospect whose main positive was guarding 1's and 2's. Perhaps I let my preferences get the best of me and pushed me overboard in my distaste towards him. You learn about yourself in every draft is what I said before. This will equip me to temper my preconceived biases of things I like and dislike in prospects.
I think you've been rather informative on all fronts of this player.
Kudos.

[BackHome]

Also agree you were right he is not a finished product and he will need time in G League to work out some of his deficiencies. The main thing is he needs to add bulk/core strength which I hope will help him finish better at the rim otherwise will see Walker from last season. One thing I would have him do is to take turns playing PG in GL as he still needs to work on his handles which will hopefully help improve his court vision/assist and he needs to work on mid range game.

I think he will become a legit starter in year two and by legit I mean he could start with good teams not just bad teams. So that gives us a decent little core with him White and Keldon also all being legit starters and hopefully Murray and Luka will have a break out season like Keldon did that would greatly help us in the rebuild process.

[K...]

people keep mentioning the g league, but the nba league starts in 1 month and the g league is a big question mark. I think vassel and Jones may travel and drop to the g league as needed, but it'll be 50/50 and vessel should get plenty of minutes.

[B1gduff]

Examples of my reservations about Devin:

1) Will be ineffective against big wings (3's) due to his lack of strength:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5idpYGZTLdHNkx27bhwRha7V9bdn92XwvAYWWPBdMH_W2k0SRO cQ5VWH5DekutI4kW7sbZae9BNEaazZ-SLfFgg60Jdu_R6zJCXwnCs5pMwxTSC6Enzl11wZWmscJNAtrtx mrV97

Bad decision-making on offense:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/3LN-OiF6Z7Ag1PglW4rpsyDFqAbEsrbKwS4BNzDnss4__GyjS7bONO Iq1bb5m8hwIztqSe3MwnOjyLkf9iipAK_KROtJGCYaN5uNk3cr WImwjQhpSWdGj6ASI6vGeHFBQEUqgekE

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/2fZBGXSpHsQvgK1mDLMI3HUNcZZnV5viU4T3fByoRw34j3jH81 6zrURHh7fsDO86S9KxOU48CFygOVLQhG3M01pok71mV4Kb5XjZ i_bMB0JtkJTIxejjmVXoWR_4dNHvke9xbkZS

3) Poor finisher, unable to draw fouls:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MUVLQOcATGwnHPqhnWlqVuuu3ZXnAfVJMcyTULLxJiE7HyDtz5 DCT42yawPY9XsgKVAHEkkHqHHMsB9DEmulR5jy-bS-i9L6J5GQ7f5kEIPmVW2krQHjr1Dk2eppeTM_Jf0voqKw

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His real effectiveness lies in defending 1's and 2's:

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Idk if you know this, but there's a thing call development. Development will help the player grow and work on his weakness to be a better player. I would not be surpised if you also didn't know that the Spurs are one of the best at developing talents.

another word of advise, every player goes thru devlopment. Look at Lebron, dude had to develop his shooting. For some players its a little why other it alot.

[BackHome]

True but I am starting to think that by January we going to see a hard shutdown due to COVID so Lort know what will happen in 2021

[B1gduff]

It's so mind blowing, that people are still question this descision. Vassel is the perfect fit for us. He's an true Sf, SOMETHING that we lack, the close guy to a sf we have are Keldon and Demar, the rest are pg/sg. Vassel was easyily the best pick at, he's got a good upside, needs to work on his dribble and put on some weight but he has the tools.

[Dejounte]

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Idk if you know this, but there's a thing call development. Development will help the player grow and work on his weakness to be a better player. I would not be surpised if you also didn't know that the Spurs are one of the best at developing talents.

another word of advise, every player goes thru devlopment. Look at Lebron, dude had to develop his shooting. For some players its a little why other it alot.

Deveh...loh...what? What's that? Huh........ interesting.


Come on, man...

[poopbox]

Yes, all prospects can develop lol.

I guess my point is that my extreme distaste for Devin centered around the fact that I didn't believe we needed a prospect whose main positive was guarding 1's and 2's. Perhaps I let my preferences get the best of me and pushed me overboard in my distaste towards him. You learn about yourself in every draft is what I said before. This will equip me to temper my preconceived biases of things I like and dislike in prospects.

Weird you feel this way because I believe our second biggest problem is our inability to stop any other teams guards. It didn't matter how good Dejounte defense was once mills and marco came in it was over.

I remember going through boxscores and looking at what some of these no names guards put up against other teams and man some of these dudes would drop 20 + on the spurs and then not score 20 total points in their next 3 games...

Maybe...just maybe...the ish smith's of the worlds won't be spurs killers anymore after this draft...

[Dejounte]

Weird you feel this way because I believe our second biggest problem is our inability to stop any other teams guards. It didn't matter how good Dejounte defense was once mills and marco came in it was over.

I remember going through boxscores and looking at what some of these no names guards put up against other teams and man some of these dudes would drop 20 + on the spurs and then not score 20 total points in their next 3 games...

Maybe...just maybe...the ish smith's of the worlds won't be spurs killers anymore after this draft...

I felt that way. Then I put my feelings aside and upon further review, I came to the same conclusion you made in this post. Opposing guards kill us.

[B1gduff]

Deveh...loh...what? What's that? Huh........ interesting.


Come on, man...

Its called development, its clear you don't understand it. Maybe search it up and see what it means. It's really important in life.

[Dejounte]

Its called development, its clear you don't understand it. Maybe search it up and see what it means. It's really important in life.

Is that food? Can I eat it? Tell me more...

[B1gduff]

Is that food? Can I eat it? Tell me more...


If your ever find it, let me know.

[B1gduff]

here's my question who did you want to be picked and why?

[ginobilized]

I’m good with Vassell and Tre. Vassell’s help defense alone makes this a better team.
If he hits a shot or two, that’s a bonus. His defensive instincts, ball awareness, rebounding and anticipation will be beautiful to watch. I think those skills will translate to a decent or even high level to the NBA. He, DJ, White and KJ will wreak some havoc and I’m looking forward to seeing it. I’m surprised no one has mentioned his old school Reggie Miller shooting form. Funky, but, effective.

Tre is actually what this squad needs. An actual point guard! If he makes the leap to this level, solid backup pg. very useful!

[spurs10]

Thank you for the great write-up. I think we did well at 11 and 41. Wonder if free agency has any big surprises. It's like Christmas as a kid, will I get a bike or socks?

Sorry to hear about Thompson, I don't wish that on anyone.