Rank your favorite Spurs from the young core (26 years old and under)

[Dejounte]

We did the same thing last year.

My ranking (in order from most favorite to least):

1. Keldon Johnson
2. Derrick White
3. Devin Vassell
4. Quinndary Weatherspoon
5. Lonnie Walker
6. Luka Samanic
7. Jakob Poetl
8. Dejounte Murray
9. Trey Lyles
10. Tre Jones

No disrespect to Tre, I just don't know enough about him yet...

Does your list reflect players who you think are the most promising? If not, is it because you like their character? Why?

Poll options were limited to 10 maximum, therefore I had to eliminate two young players (Metu and Eubanks). Sorry if they were your most favorite...

[Chinook]

Johnson
Vassell
White
Walker
Samanic
Poeltl
Jones
Murray
Lyles
Weatherspoon

Wouldn't that's how much I like them. It's more how much I think they should be part of the team's long-term plans.

[Dejounte]

Johnson
Vassell
White
Walker
Samanic
Poeltl
Jones
Murray
Lyles
Weatherspoon

Wouldn't that's how much I like them. It's more how much I think they should be part of the team's long-term plans.

Same thing with how I arranged my list. Though with Keldon it's also because I fucking love the guy.

[K...]

I didn't see a forbes option, is he 27 already?

[Dejounte]

I didn't see a forbes option, is he 27 already?

Correct.

[mo7888]

Johnson
White
Walker
Vassell
Samanic
Poeltl
Jones
Murray
Weatherspoon
Lyles

[exstatic]

Derrick
Keldon
Lonnie
Luka
Jakob
Trey
Q
DJ
DV
Tre

New guys are last, because...new

[exstatic]

I didn't see a forbes option, is he 27 already?

He’s also not on the roster. Didn’t play one second in the bubble, and QOs have been extended to fill the roster to 15. He didn’t get one.

[R. DeMurre]

What do you see in Weatherspoon that has you put him above Walker, Samanic, and Murray?

[Dejounte]

What do you see in Weatherspoon that has you put him above Walker, Samanic, and Murray?

Every time he stepped on the court, his IQ was miles better than anything Walker, Samanic, and ESPECIALLY Murray have displayed. The only issues with him right now are his reluctance to shoot 3's. He can nail them, but it was obvious he was intimidated by Pop.

Also, his defense is amazing. His hands are quick and he stays in front of his man.

It's not like I think his upside is better than any of those three, but right now, his IQ makes him way more fun to watch. Key words: right now.

[K...]

With the obvious joke out of the way, Keldon should be consensus number 1, only because White's inconsistency is something keldon has not shown as a rookie. White is a finished product i fear and the team will be pushing Murray this year over him (and has whenever Murray is healthy)

[R. DeMurre]

I really like D White, but Keldon will be White's age in 2025. That's half a decade to grow & improve. I hope they stay together as a tandem.

[itzsoweezee]

1. Derrick White
2. Keldon Johnson
3. Devin Vassell
4. Lonnie Walker
5. Dejounte Murray
6. Quinndary Weatherspoon
7. Tre Jones
8. Jakob Poetl
9. Luka Samanic
10. Trey Lyles

Zero faith in our big men. It is incredibly dumb how many promising guards are on this roster considering the dearth of bigs.

[talkspurs]

1. Keldon Johnson
2. DJM
3. Devin Vassell
4. White
5.Luka
6. Q
7. Jakob Poetl
8. walker
9. lyles
10. Tre Jones

I would put Metu at 6 and push everyone else down. Eubanks with walker.

[Robz4000]

White
KJ
Walker
Vassell
Murray
Poeltl
Lyles
Jones
Weatherspoon
Samanic

[rankingtear]

1. Dejounte
2. Keldon
3. White
4. Jakob
5. Vassell
6. Luka
7. Jones
8. Q
9. Walker
10. Lyles

[4lifecowboy]

Walker
Johnson
Murray
White
Lyle
Weatherspoon
Vassell
Jones
Poetl
Samanic

[Dejounte]

1. Dejounte
2. Keldon
3. White
4. Jakob
5. Vassell
6. Luka
7. Jones
8. Q
9. Walker
10. Lyles

Rare Pokemon sighting... A #1 Dejounte-fan!

[PhantomDashCam]

White - biggest sample size, has shown the goods to step into larger role.

Walker - arguably highest ceiling of the group, seems to be Pop’s whipping boy/coached hardest - usually good sign of trajectory.

KJ - tenacity/toughness, some things on college tape/ scouting report haven’t had a chance to manifest themselves yet due to small sample
on the big team eg. How does he handle shooting slumps, can he be consistent shooter across a season?

Dejounte - love his passion, hope the I.Q, intangibles start to measure up

Lyles - see the Boris Diaw comparisons, love the assertion he started to show in March. All tools for a 4 are there.

The rest I could chop and change depending on the day of the week.
Love Tre’s game - Coach K called him best PG in draft and CBS said some scouts agreed.
The guys’ athletic profile over the last year has changed dramatically.
He was looking like Cole Anthony with vision and less of a handle in workouts.

[talkspurs]

Rare Pokemon sighting... A #1 Dejounte-fan!

DJM would be my number 1 but what KJ did in the bubble and also in the G league plus his personality put him at the top.

[joeyjfive]

1. Keldon Johnson - easy call as number 1, he was tough in the bubble, looks a lot stronger and is already a solid finisher at the rim
2. Derrick White - Impressive in the bubble and of course I love his defense, Will it continue though?
3. Devin Vassell - Excited for him because he's a rookie
4. Lonnie Walker - Most explosive but has trouble finishing at the rim, if he just puts it together he can be everyone's fav. Also his individual defense is impressive but team defense is pretty bad.
5. Dejounte Murray - Improved mid range and taking more threes. Need even more and why they hell is his handle so loose he's a PG?
6. Luka Samanic - Haven't seen much, jury is still out but I don't think it's looking good
7. Jakob Poetl - Meh, he's a finished product, don't hate him don't love him
8. Quinndary Weatherspoon - Q is a good defender which I love but the dude hates shooting 3s. Got to get over that or he won't last long
9. Tre Jones - curious to see if his D will translate to the NBA and where the hell he's going to be able to get some PT.
10. Trey Lyles - One of the worst starting PFs in the league IMO, when he was starting

[poopbox]

Murray so low on all of these list :wow

Only player to reach a second contract out of the young players...
Only player to make an all nba team...
Only player to start every game sandwhiched between two of the statistical worse defenders in basketball, Derozan and Forbes...
When he wasn't on the floor we were an all time bad defensive team statistically

Keldon played a handful of games in his rookie year and he is somehow better than Murray...

Walker can't even stay on the floor for 5 straight minutes without getting in foul trouble or fucking up on defense but he is somehow better than murray...

I got him number one on my list because none of these other young players other than Derrick White have had any real consistent role on this team yet...

I wonder what Keldon metrics would look like if you told him he had to play between Derozan and Forbes AND he had to guard the other teams best perimeter player...

[RC_Drunkford]

1. Keldon
2. White
3. Walker
4. Vassell
5. Murray
6. Samanic
7. Poeltl
8. Jones
9. Weatherspoon
10. Lyles

[exstatic]

Murray so low on all of these list :wow

Only player to reach a second contract out of the young players...
Only player to make an all nba team...
Only player to start every game sandwhiched between two of the statistical worse defenders in basketball, Derozan and Forbes...
When he wasn't on the floor we were an all time bad defensive team statistically

Keldon played a handful of games in his rookie year and he is somehow better than Murray...

Walker can't even stay on the floor for 5 straight minutes without getting in foul trouble or fucking up on defense but he is somehow better than murray...

I got him number one on my list because none of these other young players other than Derrick White have had any real consistent role on this team yet...

I wonder what Keldon metrics would look like if you told him he had to play between Derozan and Forbes AND he had to guard the other teams best perimeter player...

Murray really hasn’t done anything since that rookie year, with the All D selection. His vision isn’t great, and he’s pretty terrible at finishing at the rim.

[Mr. Body]

I feel like Murray is the most likely to be moved. The rest fit, even if from the bench, but Murray doesn't have a great well-rounded skill set like the others are developing. Derrick White is the straw that stirs the drink -- the reason we struggled last year is because he was having a down year. If he struggles again, the team will struggle, although having another legit PG option in Jones will help. Murray is just a jagged fit into a puzzle that is coming together.

[Dejounte]

I feel like Murray is the most likely to be moved. The rest fit, even if from the bench, but Murray doesn't have a great well-rounded skill set like the others are developing. Derrick White is the straw that stirs the drink -- the reason we struggled last year is because he was having a down year. If he struggles again, the team will struggle, although having another legit PG option in Jones will help. Murray is just a jagged fit into a puzzle that is coming together.

I thought most of his struggles last year was due to him playing through a foot injury?

[XDT76]

Murray really hasn’t done anything since that rookie year, with the All D selection. His vision isn’t great, and he’s pretty terrible at finishing at the rim.

I felt that he underperformed because the expectation for him is too high. If he is told to be a 3 & D primarily, he will be rated much higher. He has to improve too many things to be a PG, moving him to SG this year might be better for his development.

[Drom John]

1. Derrick White
2. Jakob Pöltl
3. Dejounte Murray
4. Keldon Johnson
5. Trey Lyles
6. Luka Samanic
7. Devin Vassell
8. Lonnie Walker
9. Quinndary Weatherspoon
10. Tre Jones

[spurspl]

keldon



white










the rest (not including vassell and tre bc its too early)

[John B]

1. Derrick - He's my new Manu. 5 charges??
2. Keldon - The workhorse
3. Vassell - He will be Spurs' defensive leader
4. Lonnie - His athleticism is off the roof, but needs to work on finishing
5. Poeltl - He has tools to be top 5 center, but he needs to be more aggressive on asking for the ball. For now he needs to control the rebound and protect the rim
6. Lyle - Very skillful and he has shown much improvement. He is Boris 2.0 with his bbq IQ and skills. But he needs to want it more
7. Murray - He has potential to be a star, but that's all that he's shown so far. He needs to bulk up and finish better. Let your game speak for itself.
8. Quindarry - I liked the aggressiveness that he showed in the bubble. Without Forbes and Beli, and hopefully less Mills, he could be seeing more minutes. He needs to show he is ready
9. Tre - He hasn't shown any, but if what the scouts and his ex-coach are saying about his hard work, we have a very good backup for a long time. Cory Joseph 2.0
10. Luka - So far a disappointment for me. He is so skilled and could be our modern NBA 4. And while Keldon and the other guys are showing pictures of working in the gym, Luka's been checking out boats?? I would put Eubank here instead and even higher with his aggressive plays

[baseline bum]

∅

[poopbox]

Murray really hasn’t done anything since that rookie year, with the All D selection. His vision isn’t great, and he’s pretty terrible at finishing at the rim.

Because he is playing with two very flawed players on the perimeter. On top of being terrible defenders Forbes never EVER does anything but shoot a 3 and Derozan hardly EVER catches and shoots, he wants to dribble his way into his own shot. So Dejounte is left scrambling to cover for 2 bottom tier defenders AND he is never going to get an assist unless Forbes makes a wide open 3 AND neither forbes or derozan are going to set him up to score in any way.

Once Derozan and Forbes leave I expect his production to go up significantly. Once they leave I also expect him to become a perennial all nba defender.

[poopbox]

I felt that he underperformed because the expectation for him is too high. If he is told to be a 3 & D primarily, he will be rated much higher. He has to improve too many things to be a PG, moving him to SG this year might be better for his development.

I agree with this. I suspect that when the season starts White will be the primary ball handler. Dejounte is bust used as a spot up shooter or cutting to the rim off ball. I am still very high on him but yeah him as a traditional point guard has been a failed experiment and needs to end, especially when you have someone like Derrick White who is exactly the type of point guard the spurs want Dejounte to be.

[BillMc]

It's impossible to know until we see Devin and Tre play.

I have given up on DJ as a starter at least. I am worried about Lonnie and Luka but rooting for them.

I like KJ a lot. I like White too though I'm not sure how much better he'll get. He's basically in his prime.

Drew seems like he's a better option for the money than Jakob, but I could be wrong. He's unproven.
Metu is surely gone. I like what little I've seen of Quinndary.

Trey ain't as bad as most think, but he's going to be an NBA journeyman. Nothing special.

[DAF86]

1-White
2-Keldon
3-Poeltl
4-Vassell
5-Walker
6-Jones
7-Samanic
8-Westherspoon
9-Murray
10-Lyles

[lebomb]

White
Keldon
Walker
Murray

Any order after these dudes