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Michael Jordan.
11-26-2020, 11:15 PM
Guess I don’t have to imagine. imagine having 6 finals losses with ALL that help. Couldn’t be me.


https://33.media.tumblr.com/d1ee231f292a5ed7c9665c92c3560718/tumblr_n5ztqgaoMm1svefdfo1_400.gif

Michael Jordan.
11-26-2020, 11:39 PM
Or feel free to imagine winning 3 in a row with your “second best player” averaging 17.6 points on 40% shooting during a three year playoff run. Who had more help again?

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gE08CvPHCg3eG2s/giphy.gif

Play Boban
11-26-2020, 11:44 PM
MJ couldn’t cut it in today’s nba tbh

GAustex
11-26-2020, 11:51 PM
Or feel free to imagine winning 3 in a row with your “second best player” averaging 17.6 points on 40% shooting during a three year playoff run. Who had more help again?

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gE08CvPHCg3eG2s/giphy.gif
Is that gif a carry?

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 12:10 AM
MJ couldn’t cut it in today’s nba tbh
Today’s NBA you gotta force your way to play with possibly the best PF of all time to have a shot at a chip. #MoreHelp

lefty
11-27-2020, 12:36 AM
MJ couldn’t cut it in today’s nba tbh

well that’s an unfair statement

DeRozan is a starter on a team that almost made the playoffs
So Jordan would start for a 9th seeded Spurs team of he played today
That’s not bad tbh

lefty
11-27-2020, 01:01 AM
Is that gif a carry?

Yes

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 05:38 AM
MJ the 2nd best player to ever play in the NBA (Kareem was better although not given the rightful acclaim) would dominate todays soft NBA. Conversely, LaRoid would struggle in past eras and crazy as a fox Rodman would have neutralized him defensively any series.

lefty
11-27-2020, 07:51 AM
MJ the 2nd best player to ever play in the NBA (Kareem was better although not given the rightful acclaim) would dominate todays soft NBA. Conversely, LaRoid would struggle in past eras and crazy as a fox Rodman would have neutralized him defensively any series.

Dude

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 08:58 AM
Dude


Rodman one of the best defenders ever would have tormented James period.

lefty
11-27-2020, 09:14 AM
Rodman one of the best defenders ever would have tormented James period.
:lol No

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 09:24 AM
:lol No


2 x DVP

In 90-91 He played such strong defense that the NBA stated he "could shut down any opposing player, from point guard to center."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/245157-dennis-rodman-the-most-underrated-player-in-nba-history

I say an ESPN broadast that also said he was the greatest all positional defender in NBA history.

More importantly he unlike most soft NBA players today he would not have backed down in any regard to James.

Sadly when he was on SAS he was a headcase because he could have really helped the Spurs at that time.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 10:06 AM
Damn carried Scottie’s ass
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Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 10:08 AM
:lol No
Didn’t Kawhi hold that nigga to like 34 percent shooting in 2014? Shit we know them niggas Deshawn and Shawn Marion held him to 8 points in a finals game :lol

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 10:42 AM
Gotdayum. Scottie’s finals stats during that second three peat

17.1PPG
38% from the floor
28 % from 3

Scottie Bricken:lol

Neo.
11-27-2020, 10:59 AM
lol rockets suck so bad you can't stop resorting to this schtick

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 11:06 AM
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Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 11:07 AM
Looks bad for Bronsexual fans. All those great supporting casts, yet all those losses. Very tragic.

lefty
11-27-2020, 11:28 AM
Didn’t Kawhi hold that nigga to like 34 percent shooting in 2014? Shit we know them niggas Deshawn and Shawn Marion held him to 8 points in a finals game :lol

Kawhi is a much better defender than Rodman tbh...

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 11:48 AM
Pippen vs other teams second options:

1991 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 6.6 ast 0.453 fg% James Worthy 19.3 pts and 2.0 ast 0.479 fg%. I'm not even talking about defense
1992 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 7.7 ast 0.484 fg% Terry Porter 16.2 pts and 4.7 ast 0.471 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1993 Finals: Pippen 21.2 pts and 7.7 ast 0.439 fg% Kevin Johnson 17.2 pts and 6.5 ast 0.421 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1996 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 5.3 ast 0.343 fg% Gary Payton 18.0 pts and 7.0 ast 0.444 fg%
1997 Finals: Pippen 20.0 pts and 3.5 ast 0.421 fg% John Stockton 15.0 pts and 8.0 ast 0.500 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1998 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 4.8 ast 0.410 fg% John Stockton 9.7 pts and 8.7 ast 0.490 fg% I'm not even talking about defense

1996 Payton outplayed Pippen, I'll be generous and say that 1997 was a tie between Scottie and Stockton. Pippen has won other matchups with other teams 2nd options hands down. 4-1-1 in favour of Pippen. Not only that but he also had all-d level 3rd options in Grant and Rodman, great coach, great bench and even great assistant coach (Tex Winter). His teams were stacked period.

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 12:45 PM
Kawhi is a much better defender than Rodman tbh...

You simply do not know basketball history. Rodman when inspired for several years was superior even then Leonard - who is very good.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 12:50 PM
Pippen vs other teams second options:

1991 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 6.6 ast 0.453 fg% James Worthy 19.3 pts and 2.0 ast 0.479 fg%. I'm not even talking about defense
1992 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 7.7 ast 0.484 fg% Terry Porter 16.2 pts and 4.7 ast 0.471 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1993 Finals: Pippen 21.2 pts and 7.7 ast 0.439 fg% Kevin Johnson 17.2 pts and 6.5 ast 0.421 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1996 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 5.3 ast 0.343 fg% Gary Payton 18.0 pts and 7.0 ast 0.444 fg%
1997 Finals: Pippen 20.0 pts and 3.5 ast 0.421 fg% John Stockton 15.0 pts and 8.0 ast 0.500 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1998 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 4.8 ast 0.410 fg% John Stockton 9.7 pts and 8.7 ast 0.490 fg% I'm not even talking about defense

1996 Payton outplayed Pippen, I'll be generous and say that 1997 was a tie between Scottie and Stockton. Pippen has won other matchups with other teams 2nd options hands down. 4-1-1 in favour of Pippen. Not only that but he also had all-d level 3rd options in Grant and Rodman, great coach, great bench and even great assistant coach (Tex Winter). His teams were stacked period.
Stacked with what? Not all stars

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 01:45 PM
Stacked with what? Not all stars

Scottie was not only all-star. He was on all-nba 1st team and all-nba-defensive 1st team. Kukoc 6th man of the year. Grant and Rodman were on all-d team too.

And BJ Armstrong and Horace were all-stars after you left Bulls for baseball. You made them worse.

lefty
11-27-2020, 02:08 PM
You simply do not know basketball history. Rodman when inspired for several years was superior even then Leonard - who is very good.

“shut up Kid, youngsters won’t understand, I watched him back in muh days! and get off my lawn!”

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 02:44 PM
“shut up Kid, youngsters won’t understand, I watched him back in muh days! and get off my lawn!”

I am probably older than you and agree to disagree

phxspurfan
11-27-2020, 03:10 PM
Pippen vs other teams second options:

1991 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 6.6 ast 0.453 fg% James Worthy 19.3 pts and 2.0 ast 0.479 fg%. I'm not even talking about defense
1992 Finals: Pippen 20.8 pts and 7.7 ast 0.484 fg% Terry Porter 16.2 pts and 4.7 ast 0.471 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1993 Finals: Pippen 21.2 pts and 7.7 ast 0.439 fg% Kevin Johnson 17.2 pts and 6.5 ast 0.421 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1996 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 5.3 ast 0.343 fg% Gary Payton 18.0 pts and 7.0 ast 0.444 fg%
1997 Finals: Pippen 20.0 pts and 3.5 ast 0.421 fg% John Stockton 15.0 pts and 8.0 ast 0.500 fg% I'm not even talking about defense
1998 Finals: Pippen 15.7 pts and 4.8 ast 0.410 fg% John Stockton 9.7 pts and 8.7 ast 0.490 fg% I'm not even talking about defense

1996 Payton outplayed Pippen, I'll be generous and say that 1997 was a tie between Scottie and Stockton. Pippen has won other matchups with other teams 2nd options hands down. 4-1-1 in favour of Pippen. Not only that but he also had all-d level 3rd options in Grant and Rodman, great coach, great bench and even great assistant coach (Tex Winter). His teams were stacked period.

Stock/Malone were like Kobe/Shaq in 97-98 playoffs. Malone was MVP. Jordan was on his last legs and Hornacek should have been the difference maker, but wasn't. No was going to stop Jordan from hitting a couple good shots in the last few minutes had it been close, which of course it was.

lefty
11-27-2020, 03:28 PM
Stock/Malone were like Kobe/Shaq in 97-98.
:lmao

lefty
11-27-2020, 03:28 PM
I am probably older than you and agree to disagree
ok :lol

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 03:53 PM
Stock/Malone were like Kobe/Shaq in 97-98 playoffs. Malone was MVP. Jordan was on his last legs and Hornacek should have been the difference maker, but wasn't. No was going to stop Jordan from hitting a couple good shots in the last few minutes had it been close, which of course it was.

:lmao

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 04:14 PM
Young Kobe could only dream of that kind of dominance
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stockjo01/gamelog/1998#128-147-sum:pgl_basic_playoffs

Rummpd
11-27-2020, 04:44 PM
:lmao

Agree. Stockton was great and a hard nosed player but limited athletically and Malone had a tendency to choke - to his credit he overcame his FT weakness but as soon as he came in league Duncan abused Malone day in and day out.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 05:09 PM
Scottie was not only all-star. He was on all-nba 1st team and all-nba-defensive 1st team. Kukoc 6th man of the year. Grant and Rodman were on all-d team too.

And BJ Armstrong and Horace were all-stars after you left Bulls for baseball. You made them worse.
Some information for your Knowledge. Kukoc was god awful in the playoffs the first ring of the second three peat. He shot 39% from the floor in the playoffs and 19% from 3. 19 goddamn percent.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 05:10 PM
Rodman couldn’t do shit offensively. Scottie was also awful himself offensively that whole second three peat run

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 05:14 PM
BJ fucking Armstrong? That motherfucker scored over 10 PPG one time after leaving Chicago. Fuck outta here :lol

Neo.
11-27-2020, 05:23 PM
lol 90s lovers cant accept the fact that their era had the worst competition of the last 40 years

Neo.
11-27-2020, 05:23 PM
BJ fucking Armstrong? That motherfucker scored over 10 PPG one time after leaving Chicago. Fuck outta here :lol

yet he made an all star team without your help

:lmao 90s competition

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 05:32 PM
Wow. Getting 8 points in a finals game. Guess Scottie and LeBron are more alike than people think.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 05:35 PM
yet he made an all star team without your help

:lmao 90s competition
So you credit him for making an all star team yet, downplay the competition. Bronsexuals can’t pick a lane.

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 06:25 PM
Baldan stans in shambles. Second best scorer of the Jazz in the Finals Jeff Hornacek scored 11 ppg on 41% shooting. :lmao 90's competition :lmao

You can't make that shit up. No wonder he has 6 rings.

Malone and Stockton were like Kobe Shaq though.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 06:41 PM
If Bron nuthuggers wanna talk about competition, then let’s talk about LeBron’s squad getting corn holed by a 7 foot robocop whole Bron spent the second half of a crucial elimination game 6 getting outplayed by Mo Williams and the guy who fucked his mother.

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 06:43 PM
Or, LeBron getting out scored by Chris Bosh in a finals series

Michael Jordan.
11-27-2020, 07:06 PM
Baldan stans in shambles. Second best scorer of the Jazz in the Finals Jeff Hornacek scored 11 ppg on 41% shooting. :lmao 90's competition :lmao

You can't make that shit up. No wonder he has 6 rings.

Malone and Stockton were like Kobe Shaq though.
Give me the top 10 Centers in today’s NBA. Power forwards? Small Forwards? Now how many are hall of famers...Rudy Gobert? You have one position in today’s NBA that is semi loaded with Hall of Famers.

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 07:10 PM
Give me the top 10 Centers in today’s NBA. Power forwards? Small Forwards? Now how many are hall of famers...Rudy Gobert? You have one position in today’s NBA that is semi loaded with Hall of Famers.
I'm not fan of today's nba tbh. 00's nba is my favourite era

lefty
11-27-2020, 08:14 PM
lol 90s lovers cant accept the fact that their era had the worst competition of the last 40 years


yet he made an all star team without your help

:lmao 90s competition

:lol truth nukes tbh

lefty
11-27-2020, 08:16 PM
Baldan stans in shambles. Second best scorer of the Jazz in the Finals Jeff Hornacek scored 11 ppg on 41% shooting. :lmao 90's competition :lmao

You can't make that shit up. No wonder he has 6 rings.

.

Stop hating
Hornacek saved me some money doing my taxes for years

Mitch
11-27-2020, 08:27 PM
Only chips Rockets have gotten were on Jordan's baseball days. Tough pill to swallow, eh john :lol

i'm_still_beta
11-27-2020, 08:56 PM
Stop hating
Hornacek saved me some money doing my taxes for years

And Dan Majerle had the best ice cream in our city. I was devastated when he was traded to Cleveland

lefty
11-27-2020, 10:33 PM
And Dan Majerle had the best ice cream in our city. I was devastated when he was traded to Cleveland

He was also a part time gym instructor to be fair
At least he didn’t end bagging groceries like John Starks


Craig Ehlo was pretty good in Full House; those 90s shows were pretty good tbh

ambchang
11-27-2020, 10:41 PM
Stock/Malone were like Kobe/Shaq in 97-98 playoffs.

I see how you can relate Kobe and Malone but not sure how Stockton and shaq would be compared.

phxspurfan
11-28-2020, 12:05 AM
90s players that would dominate today with the soft rules and super teams


Grant Hill

Shawn Kemp

Dominique Wilkins

Mark Price

Bill Laimbeer

Dale Ellis

Doc Rivers

Rik Smits

Sabonis

NVE

Ewing

Olajuwon

Mullin

DRob

Elliott

Iverson

Juwan Howard

Michael Finley

Drexler

Sir Charles

Reggie Miller

Allan Houston

Spree

Damon Stoudamire

basically anyone who can shoot and is even marginally tough

I could go on


it looks bad bc the players were spread out and didnt concntrate on the big market teams. This is before huge cable TV contracts and such. Players got paid less and revenue sharing (I dont think) was not a thing, so each team had one or two good players and the rest scrubs. Also no BS 2020 player movement so no players getting Super Max then demanding trades. Just contract year try harding and try harding to get all star bids, etc. But the 90s had a ton of great players.

phxspurfan
11-28-2020, 12:13 AM
players of todays NBA who would get shut down by 90s rules (3 steps is a travel, playoff fouls and hand checking allowed)

Harden
LeBron
Westbrook
Embiid
Ben Simmons
Tatum
Curry
Klay Thompson
DeAngelo Russell
John Wall
Dejounte Murray (not even good today but would be always injured and even worse in an era of physicality)
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Durant (would cry so bad after one hard foul by a defending PF or SF)
Tobias Harris
Kuzma
Etc



noe how every players in the 80s-2000s had it rough the first year in the NBA (besides TD) then they learned to bulk up for contact). Today guys like Curry can waltz through the lane putting up floaters or chucking step back 3s and cry to the refs when a defenders legs get within 10 feet of theirs.

phxspurfan
11-28-2020, 12:18 AM
players whose games work in both eras (old school and soft offensive era)


Divac
Antione Walker :lol
Dirk
Ray Allen
Korver
Redick
Tyler Herro
Dragic
Harrell
Pat Bev
PJ Tucker
Kobe
Vince Carter
young Shaq
young TD
Jimmy Butler
Dame
Kemp
Marc Gasol
Brook Lopez (2019 the one that can shoot 3s)

basically hard nosed or tougher guys / not necessarily the gazelles but smart and durable, basketball skills like rebounding, defense or shooting


editorial this is also why draft sucks ass these days a lot. Teams want 18-19 year olds with Length a d athleticism and try to teach the basketball skills after the get signed. Problem is not all these kids even want to put in the effort, or can reach high skill ceilings, so they wash out. Also AAU teaches kids to align on super teams and 1v1 play vs team play. Which is why the USA can struggle in international play when facing teams who run systems, play defense, and if they keep it close, have huge advantages on strategy at the end. Vs give the ball to LeBron and clear out kind of offense they have in developmental US leagues.

lefty
11-28-2020, 12:30 AM
CROFL

60s players would have dominated the 90s NBA and its soft rulles

daslicer
11-28-2020, 03:24 AM
90s players that would dominate today with the soft rules and super teams


Grant Hill

Shawn Kemp

Dominique Wilkins

Mark Price

Bill Laimbeer

Dale Ellis

Doc Rivers

Rik Smits

Sabonis

NVE

Ewing

Olajuwon

Mullin

DRob

Elliott

Iverson

Juwan Howard

Michael Finley

Drexler

Sir Charles

Reggie Miller

Allan Houston

Spree

Damon Stoudamire

basically anyone who can shoot and is even marginally tough

I could go on


it looks bad bc the players were spread out and didnt concntrate on the big market teams. This is before huge cable TV contracts and such. Players got paid less and revenue sharing (I dont think) was not a thing, so each team had one or two good players and the rest scrubs. Also no BS 2020 player movement so no players getting Super Max then demanding trades. Just contract year try harding and try harding to get all star bids, etc. But the 90s had a ton of great players.

Glen Rice to me is the guy who would have the biggest jump. I remember watching him in his prime in Charlotte which was from '95-'98. He was great during those 3 years and you can say only Pippen/Hill were better than him at the SF spot. I would say that he was a much better scorer than Pippen/Hill during that 3 year stretch. I think he would blow up in this era. He was a great 3 point shooter and this era would favor his game tremendously.

phxspurfan
11-28-2020, 04:01 AM
Glen Rice to me is the guy who would have the biggest jump. I remember watching him in his prime in Charlotte which was from '95-'98. He was great during those 3 years and you can say only Pippen/Hill were better than him at the SF spot. I would say that he was a much better scorer than Pippen/Hill during that 3 year stretch. I think he would blow up in this era. He was a great 3 point shooter and this era would favor his game tremendously.

I thought of him and the Person brothers as well but left them off since posters would probably just pick at Rice's decline later in his career more than his prime. But yes his prime 2-3 years were pretty great and transferable to other eras for sure.

edit: forgot about pre-injury Penny too.

some other guys who could probably hang, at least as fringe stars or good role players:

Kevin Johnson

Cliff Robinson

Larry Johnson

Tim Hardaway

Joe Smith and Donyell Marshall (their young Warriors years)

Dell Curry

Kukoc

Neo.
11-28-2020, 10:08 AM
:rollin at the levels of stupid in this thread

i'm_still_beta
11-28-2020, 01:59 PM
90s players that would dominate today with the soft rules and super teams


Grant Hill

Shawn Kemp

Dominique Wilkins

Mark Price

Bill Laimbeer

Dale Ellis

Doc Rivers

Rik Smits

Sabonis

NVE

Ewing

Olajuwon

Mullin

DRob

Elliott

Iverson

Juwan Howard

Michael Finley

Drexler

Sir Charles

Reggie Miller

Allan Houston

Spree

Damon Stoudamire

basically anyone who can shoot and is even marginally tough

I could go on


it looks bad bc the players were spread out and didnt concntrate on the big market teams. This is before huge cable TV contracts and such. Players got paid less and revenue sharing (I dont think) was not a thing, so each team had one or two good players and the rest scrubs. Also no BS 2020 player movement so no players getting Super Max then demanding trades. Just contract year try harding and try harding to get all star bids, etc. But the 90s had a ton of great players.

Why would Doc Rivers dominate today's NBA? Iirc, his defense took a hit after rules changes and he was nothing special offensively?
Barkley - dude wasn't great shooter, weak defensively. Imagine him switching on all-star guards or defending pick and rolls. His defense was mostly post play, backing down defender for as long as possible and then shoot or draw double-team and pass out to open teammate. With today soft zones, this skill would be diminished.

lefty
11-28-2020, 02:47 PM
:rollin at the levels of stupid in this thread

phxspurfan
11-28-2020, 04:02 PM
Why would Doc Rivers dominate today's NBA? Iirc, his defense took a hit after rules changes and he was nothing special offensively?
Barkley - dude wasn't great shooter, weak defensively. Imagine him switching on all-star guards or defending pick and rolls. His defense was mostly post play, backing down defender for as long as possible and then shoot or draw double-team and pass out to open teammate. With today soft zones, this skill would be diminished.

nobody plays defense today. Youre not even allowed to play defense. Just run down the lane take 5 steps and dunk on somebody, or step back 3 and shimmy down the court.

lefty
11-28-2020, 04:41 PM
they didn’t play nuch D before either

Brazil
11-28-2020, 06:06 PM
they didn’t play nuch D before either

:lol harden would not last 2 games in the 90s..

lefty
11-28-2020, 07:21 PM
:lol harden would not last 2 games in the 90s..

Harden would average 60 ppg in ISO era against clowns like Ehlo or Majerle:lol

90/ Fans and logic, smh :lol

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 07:39 PM
Curry wouldn’t have lasted. His body is too fragile. Harden scoring mainly off free throws he woulda got chin checked. Kawhi’s mental health would have failed him. Chris Paul’s hamstrings would have been torn clean off his legs. I mean Jeez. What competition does LeBron have? Can you really dominate competition if there isn’t any? I mean a healthy Durant bends LeBron over raw with no Vaseline

lefty
11-28-2020, 08:44 PM
Jordan was getting major food stamps in the 90s, so Harden would be getting more FTs in the 90s than now :lol
Curry is in better shape than those 90s ice cream truck drivers :lol

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 08:52 PM
https://wp-usatodaysports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/05/lebronflop41.gif

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 08:52 PM
Imagine that shit going up against the bad boy Pistons :lol

lefty
11-28-2020, 08:53 PM
lol GIFs of Jordan getting bullied also exist

do. better

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 08:55 PM
https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lebron-flop.gif

nigga what???

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 08:57 PM
Imagine this motherfucker going up against Charles Oakley :lol

https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836554/jamesflop.gif

Michael Jordan.
11-28-2020, 09:02 PM
Mhttps://i.redd.it/h57xa1itg2k41.gif

lefty
11-28-2020, 10:07 PM
More please

Rummpd
11-29-2020, 08:27 AM
I will give you another HOF player would thrive Adrian Dantley who is now a fine HS level basketball referee in an association with me and is in incredible physical shape - works out vigorously every day. Nicest possible person and very humble but would score at will today- he also works as a school crossing guard at a school just to get additional health benefits.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/03/30/from-nba-to-moco-rec-league-hall-of-famer-adrian-dantley-wont-change-his-stripes/%3foutputType=amp

Texas_Ranger
11-29-2020, 08:36 AM
players whose games work in both eras (old school and soft offensive era)


Divac
Antione Walker :lol
Dirk
Ray Allen
Korver
Redick
Tyler Herro
Dragic
Harrell
Pat Bev
PJ Tucker
Kobe
Vince Carter
young Shaq
young TD
Jimmy Butler
Dame
Kemp
Marc Gasol
Brook Lopez (2019 the one that can shoot 3s)

basically hard nosed or tougher guys / not necessarily the gazelles but smart and durable, basketball skills like rebounding, defense or shooting


editorial this is also why draft sucks ass these days a lot. Teams want 18-19 year olds with Length a d athleticism and try to teach the basketball skills after the get signed. Problem is not all these kids even want to put in the effort, or can reach high skill ceilings, so they wash out. Also AAU teaches kids to align on super teams and 1v1 play vs team play. Which is why the USA can struggle in international play when facing teams who run systems, play defense, and if they keep it close, have huge advantages on strategy at the end. Vs give the ball to LeBron and clear out kind of offense they have in developmental US leagues.

+ Doncic.

Spurtacular
11-29-2020, 08:49 AM
MJ couldn’t cut it in today’s nba tbh

He's be a Westbrook, tbh.

lefty
11-29-2020, 11:13 AM
He's be a Westbrook, tbh.

lol don’t insult Westbrook please

Rummpd
11-29-2020, 11:13 AM
+ Doncic.

Who could rule any era

Play Boban
11-29-2020, 12:39 PM
He's be a Westbrook, tbh.
At best tbh. His PER would be like 8.

DMC
11-29-2020, 05:49 PM
Imagine being a Rockets fan living vicariously through Chicago fans by reminiscing about titles that happened before you were born.

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 06:59 PM
Imagine being a Rockets fan living vicariously through Chicago fans by reminiscing about titles that happened before you were born.
Imagine being a fat middle aged white man defending Rudy Giuliani wanking his shit in front of an alleged child.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/122441721_5007535425938431_4420537532829900565_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=kz81DBku2bwAX_JzgL9&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=14&oh=09ae32b8b4f53c5f6972fc06b96b43f5&oe=5FEB9890

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 07:10 PM
At best tbh. His PER would be like 8.
LeBron wouldn’t survive hand checking

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 07:20 PM
1331683302198177797

30%? :lmao

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 07:39 PM
Hell is LeBron even better than Durant?

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 08:24 PM
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/127907657_5186695828022389_121750279997621508_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=vwL4Z3dknDsAX-OTSey&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=14&oh=b91596b4a3fa114354e39cef5b06f86f&oe=5FE895AE



:lmao

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 08:29 PM
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damn

Michael Jordan.
11-29-2020, 09:31 PM
Damn, the pace of games in the last few years have been even slower than the 90’s. The PPG in the 90’s continued well into the 2000s :lol

FrostKing
11-29-2020, 11:53 PM
90s Bulls were an equation. Perfectly balanced. Just enough limitations to have you coming back for more.

Neo.
11-30-2020, 12:29 PM
90s Bulls were an equation. Perfectly balanced. Just enough limitations to have you coming back for more.
easily the most well built team in NBA history. others may have had more sheer talent, but in terms of balance, versatility and fit... they were absolutely phenomenal.

Rummpd
11-30-2020, 01:11 PM
easily the most well built team in NBA history. others may have had more sheer talent, but in terms of balance, versatility and fit... they were absolutely phenomenal.

they had three of the greatest defenders in history as well - Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman (when he was there). That side of the ball kept them in games until Jordan did his thing.

Play Boban
12-01-2020, 10:45 AM
LeBron wouldn’t survive hand checking
In the 90s LeBron would be allowed to use his genetically superior body to its fullest extent. He would bully and dominate his opponents. His opponents would kneel and cry before him as he flexed his 20” biceps and rippled his pecs. Jordan would break his weak legs trying to keep up with a superior athlete like LeBron.

Can you just imagine how LeBron would obliterate all those white cats in the 1950s nba? :lmao

lefty
12-01-2020, 11:16 AM
In the 90s LeBron would be allowed to use his genetically superior body to its fullest extent. He would bully and dominate his opponents. His opponents would kneel and cry before him as he flexed his 20” biceps and rippled his pecs. Jordan would break his weak legs trying to keep up with a superior athlete like LeBron.

Can you just imagine how LeBron would obliterate all those white cats in the 1950s nba? :lmao:lol people who think those 90s plumbers would affect Lebron with hand checking :lmao

Play Boban
12-01-2020, 12:41 PM
:lol people who think those 90s plumbers would affect Lebron with hand checking :lmao
Exactly. LeBron would clean Stockton’s clock and send him packing straight out of the nba tbh. He’d win the finals recruit year. No one could stop him.

Michael Jordan.
12-01-2020, 12:58 PM
An Oakley elbow to the throat would have this motherfucker out for the season.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OilyPowerfulGhostshrimp-max-1mb.gif

lefty
12-01-2020, 01:13 PM
An Oakley elbow to the throat would have this motherfucker out for the season.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OilyPowerfulGhostshrimp-max-1mb.gif
And would have killed Jordn on the spot

Michael Jordan.
12-01-2020, 01:24 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/129001017_5194581963900442_8639556807509423832_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=yXcs6pmjFCgAX_4GBFc&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&tp=14&oh=6aa702e416500798b990b6460e7443cc&oe=5FEB394B

Michael Jordan.
12-01-2020, 01:24 PM
Damn crucial game against Boston outscored by a WASHED Shaq

Michael Jordan.
12-01-2020, 01:25 PM
3/14 :lol

lefty
12-01-2020, 01:26 PM
Really?

You want to go there? :lol

Let's talk about Jordan getting skullfucked by 6 foot 1 Isiah Thomas in 4th quarters


1988 vs Detroit : Game 5, elimination game, Jordan scores only 2 points in the 4th quarter of a close game :lol and the Bulls are eliminated

1989 vs Detroit : game 5, series tied, Jordan scores just 18 pts, including only 1 - ONE - point in the 4th quarter :lmao

FrostKing
12-01-2020, 01:34 PM
:lol people who think those 90s plumbers would affect Lebron with hand checking :lmao
Plumbers tougher than pampered AAU kids

lefty
12-01-2020, 01:37 PM
Plumbers tougher than pampered AAU kids
Pampered AA ukids still stronger, 90s plumbers can be as tuff as they want, at the end of the day logic wins :lol

i'm_still_beta
12-01-2020, 01:38 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705220CHI.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705260MIA.html
4-15
9-35
29 combined free throws at age 34 :lmao
FT Jordan :lmao

lefty
12-01-2020, 01:48 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705220CHI.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705260MIA.html
4-15
9-35
29 combined free throws at age 34 :lmao
FT Jordan :lmao
:lol Jordan was losing steps, so the NBA had to make sure he got his points by giving him more foot stamps


Oh by the way :

MICHAEL JORDAN WOULD NEVER : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6rRc4Ry-4w

Chucho
12-01-2020, 02:07 PM
lol 90s lovers cant accept the fact that their era had the worst competition of the last 40 years

That's stupid. This entire century has been a 1 conference League but for a few years.

i'm_still_beta
12-01-2020, 02:20 PM
:lol Jordan was losing steps, so the NBA had to make sure he got his points by giving him more foot stamps


Oh by the way :

MICHAEL JORDAN WOULD NEVER : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6rRc4Ry-4w

But, but it doesn't count. He was rusty :cry

lefty
12-01-2020, 02:55 PM
But, but it doesn't count. He was rusty :cry

:lol that argument; drops 55 on undersized grocery bagger Stark and a few days later a game winner on Stiff Smith
:cry so rusty

Neo.
12-01-2020, 02:58 PM
That's stupid. This entire century has been a 1 conference League but for a few years.

the league has basically always been a 1 conference league for the past 40 years

80s - west was weak except for lakers
90s - east was weak except for the bulls
00s - east was weak except for a team here and there
10s - east was weak except for lebron teams

Rummpd
12-01-2020, 03:18 PM
In the 90s LeBron would be allowed to use his genetically superior body to its fullest extent. He would bully and dominate his opponents. His opponents would kneel and cry before him as he flexed his 20” biceps and rippled his pecs. Jordan would break his weak legs trying to keep up with a superior athlete like LeBron.

Can you just imagine how LeBron would obliterate all those white cats in the 1950s nba? :lmao

Yes those Roids and HCG have surely helped James

lefty
12-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Yes those Roids and HCG have surely helped James
Prove it

Rummpd
12-01-2020, 07:13 PM
Prove it

It cannot be proven till he is caught but his longevity without injuries alone makes him suspicious as do many other factors and there have been rumors for years. However most fans would rather look the other way from this likely at least in part a fraud. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YaKILPV78DU

lefty
12-01-2020, 08:38 PM
Genetics, better training, nutrition, etc

Play Boban
12-02-2020, 09:29 AM
Yes those Roids and HCG have surely helped James
I can’t argue with that. He is a miracle of medical science. He is the perfect athlete, shaped by science.

lefty
12-02-2020, 09:30 AM
I can’t argue with that. He is a miracle of medical science. He is the perfect athlete, shaped by science.

Exactly
He’s the next step in human evolution

Play Boban
12-02-2020, 10:43 AM
Exactly
He’s the next step in human evolution
I agree. Just imagine him toying with the all white nba defenses from the 1940s. :lmao

I bet LeBron would be a better baseball player than Babe Ruth too. And a better wide receiver than Lance Alworth.

Play Boban
12-02-2020, 10:44 AM
How could someone from the past defend LeBron? They couldn’t. LeBron would be bigger, stronger, taller, and faster, with more skill. Game, set, match.

lefty
12-02-2020, 11:50 AM
How could someone from the past defend LeBron? They couldn’t. LeBron would be bigger, stronger, taller, and faster, with more skill. Game, set, match.

Obviously

But old heads pick retarded narratives and ignore logic

Play Boban
12-02-2020, 06:13 PM
Obviously

But old heads pick retarded narratives and ignore logic
Truth nuke. Just imagine LeBron DESTROYING MJ 1 on 1. He’d back him down to the basket every time and just throw it down. :lmao

FrostKing
12-02-2020, 06:51 PM
Truth nuke. Just imagine LeBron DESTROYING MJ 1 on 1. He’d back him down to the basket every time and just throw it down. :lmao
https://i.ibb.co/4ZQ4Xrf/Cll-Re7-KWEAAih-OU.jpg

And he's a low IQ hoodrat

lefty
12-02-2020, 08:16 PM
JJ is better than any player who guarded Jordan

FrostKing
12-02-2020, 08:22 PM
JJ is better than any player who guarded Jordan
Petrovic rolling in grob

lefty
12-02-2020, 08:48 PM
Petrovic rolling in grob

Killed by Stern because he wasn’t afraid of MJ

ambchang
12-03-2020, 06:29 PM
People here thinks a grade school kid is a better mathematician than Descartes because he’s got a calculator.

Dirks_Finale
12-03-2020, 06:45 PM
Kawhi is a much better defender than Rodman tbh...

No

Dirks_Finale
12-03-2020, 06:47 PM
Truth nuke. Just imagine LeBron DESTROYING MJ 1 on 1. He’d back him down to the basket every time and just throw it down. :lmao

Wrong.

The help would come. They had actual rim protection back then...not today's 6'5 'centers'.

lefty
12-03-2020, 07:11 PM
No

Lo yes he is

lefty
12-03-2020, 07:12 PM
Wrong.

The help would come. They had actual rim protection back then...not today's 6'5 'centers'.

Another myth

Dirks_Finale
12-03-2020, 09:48 PM
Lo yes he is

Rodzilla guarded anyone...1-5....including Shaq who had 100lbs on him.

Kiwi only checks perimeter players.

Game/set/match.

Dirks_Finale
12-03-2020, 09:51 PM
Another mythhttps://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3033/pj-tucker

lefty
12-03-2020, 10:19 PM
Rodzilla guarded anyone...1-5....including Shaq who had 100lbs on him.

Kiwi only checks perimeter players.

Game/set/match.
Oh come on!

lefty
12-03-2020, 10:21 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3033/pj-tucker

Lol the 90s rim protection :lmao

Dirks_Finale
12-03-2020, 10:24 PM
Lol the 90s rim protection :lmao

An era where you could actually touch people though :lol

lefty
12-04-2020, 12:54 AM
An era where you could actually touch people though :lol

Yeah and the refs called soft fouls when that happened

You couldn’t breathe on Jordan though

Michael Jordan.
12-05-2020, 05:44 PM
:lmao 6’5 centers

Michael Jordan.
12-05-2020, 05:45 PM
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/129021512_5213629011995737_5456477787905316998_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=pqxMjRFlKL4AX9_K9pq&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=14&oh=e26093c4792233272d1559c6302af9b5&oe=5FF1C7B6

Michael Jordan.
12-05-2020, 05:50 PM
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Michael Jordan.
12-05-2020, 05:51 PM
^ Damn, Klay was actually pretty ass that series. Iggy tore Bron’s dookie hole up though :lol

Michael Jordan.
12-05-2020, 05:54 PM
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/128645779_5213636291995009_6008006418890974902_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=ZnoKb0S2PMUAX9DH0h_&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=14&oh=99c769131f8c043822c95b00dc791732&oe=5FF3281B
Man, if Kobe had shot these kinda numbers....

DMC
12-06-2020, 01:01 AM
Too bad you worship James Harden and had Westbrook on your team as well, who both got their shit pushed in by Lebron the only time they ever saw the Finals :lol

lefty
12-06-2020, 01:57 AM
Too bad you worship James Harden and had Westbrook on your team as well, who both got their shit pushed in by Lebron the only time they ever saw the Finals :lol
:lol