Obama says on BSPN that James has path GOAT - greatest fraud all time

[Rummpd]

Peripatetic LeRoid 4-6 is the fraud GOAT or even considered top two as Jordan and Kareem far greater.

Sick of this BS - had to create stacked teams to win majority of chips.

Not even most important player by far on Lakers - they missed playoffs without AD

On Roids and or HCG whole career - mark it down

Caved to China etc.

Stat king as he dominates ball mainly.

Most favored player by officials in history other than perhaps Shaq and Harden.

Fraud as GOAT is this 4*-6 sham that ESPN so loves.

[i'm_still_beta]

Basketball has become more popular game worldwide -> more talent in NBA -> you need better team to win championships

[lefty]

BREAKING: BULLS FAN THINKS BULLS PLAYER IS GOAT, MORE AT 11

[JohnnyMax]

Durant is actually most favored player in NBA.

LeBron usually beats teams fair and square because he's good enough to get job done.

Durant is incompetent like Giannis so league is forced to constantly interfere which is why so many fan bases have complained about being cheated by teams he's been on.

[Spurtacular]

I don't think Obama gives a sh** who GOAT bb player is, tbh. He didn't care one bit about being GOAT president.

[Bynumite]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei5GrNlUwAAs0eJ?format=jpg&name=small

[lefty]

I used to like Lebron until his comments on the China situation

But he is an amazing player and barring injuries the Lakers should win at least 2 more titles

Haters gonna hate tbh

[DMC]

I like Lebron just fine. For his stature and tenure, he's handled himself better than about 99.99% of others. In fact, I'd say he's the ambassador of the game that MJ never was.

[Dirks_Finale]

I used to like Lebron until his comments on the China situation

But he is an amazing player and barring injuries the Lakers should win at least 2 more titles

Haters gonna hate tbh

Great athlete. Likely an all pro in any sport, had he chose another.

Just doesn't have the drive of MJ. Does not have the dog in him to catapult himself to GOAT status.

But hell, top 5 is nothing to sneeze at.

[Rummpd]

I used to like Lebron until his comments on the China situation

But he is an amazing player and barring injuries the Lakers should win at least 2 more titles

Haters gonna hate tbh

Don’t hate just despise the fact even discussion as greatest when all he has done is assemble great teams. He is a better GM than player truth be told.

[daslicer]

I don't think Obama gives a sh** who GOAT bb player is, tbh. He didn't care one bit about being GOAT president.

Surprisingly I agree with you.

[lefty]

Great athlete. Likely an all pro in any sport, had he chose another.

Just doesn't have the drive of MJ. Does not have the dog in him to catapult himself to GOAT status.

But hell, top 5 is nothing to sneeze at.

Lol the drive argument again

He has it, took a shit Cavs team to the Finals in a better NBA at age 22
If that’s not drive I don’t know what it is

Where was Jordan’s drive before Phil and Pippen?

« Drive, will to win, intense game face, herp derp »

[lefty]

Don’t hate just despise the fact even discussion as greatest when all he has done is assemble great teams. He is a better GM than player truth be told.

Better player than Jordan and better GM than Jordan :lol

[Play Boban]

LeBron would’ve won 10 championships on the Bulls. At least.

[Play Boban]

Lol the drive argument again

He has it, took a shit Cavs team to the Finals in a better NBA at age 22
If that’s not drive I don’t know what it is

Where was Jordan’s drive before Phil and Pippen?

« Drive, will to win, intense game face, herp derp »
MJ was so driven he quit basketball in his prime. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

I used to like Lebron until his comments on the China situation

But he is an amazing player and barring injuries the Lakers should win at least 2 more titles

Haters gonna hate tbh

He's always been a total a-hole. His Hillary endorsement should've tipped you off way before that.

[lefty]

MJ was so driven he quit basketball in his prime. :lmao

« Stern, change the rules because I can’t win and the Pistons are mean and contrary to popular belief I can’t win when it’s physical. Do something or I retire” :cry

[Rummpd]

LeBron would’ve won 10 championships on the Bulls. At least.

BS he probably won zero because unlike Jordan he is not clutch

[Rummpd]

Better player than Jordan and better GM than Jordan :lol

Better GM but at least 2 spots behind GOAT status

[lefty]

Better GM but at least 2 spots behind GOAT status
Neither is the GOAT anyway, so problem solved

[Dirks_Finale]

better GM than Jordan :lol

Ok that part I'll give you. Then again, any of us are better GM's than Jordan.

[Dirks_Finale]

MJ was so driven he quit basketball in his prime. :lmao


You would too if you weren't being challenged.

[Dirks_Finale]

I didn't say Lebron doesn't have drive. He just lacks Jordan's drive. That's ok, everyone does.


Lol the drive argument again

He has it, took a shit Cavs team to the Finals in a better NBA at age 22
If that’s not drive I don’t know what it is

Where was Jordan’s drive before Phil and Pippen?

« Drive, will to win, intense game face, herp derp »

[Dirks_Finale]

BS he probably won zero because unlike Jordan he is not clutch

Even in Lebron's greatest moments, he had miserable failures down the stretch of key Final's games. Turnovers and bricks galore vs Spurs and Warriors. Stuff you never saw from MJ in the closing moments Finals games. No Western team even managed a GM 7 vs the Bulls .

[Neo.]

You would too if you weren't being challenged.

plenty of great players wouldnt be challenged if they had a stacked and perfectly built team in a weak era


No Western team even managed a GM 7 vs the Bulls .

bc no finals team ever had even a sliver of a chance at beating them to begin with because the bulls as a team were simply way better than everyone. it wasnt like mike was just carrying a bunch of scrubs, or some talented but poorly built team to a bunch of rings. he had the best of both worlds, something only the lakers, spurs and warriors have had over the past 20 years, and they all won 3+ championships.


Stuff you never saw from MJ in the closing moments Finals games.

its easy to not have those moments when your being guarded by the likes of dan majerle, craig ehlo and john starks, and teams aren't allowed to provide help unless its a blatant double. lets see him do it while guys like kawhi, pg, or tony allen are draped on you, along with two other defenders shading in the lanes.

[Dirks_Finale]

plenty of great players wouldnt be challenged if they had a stacked and perfectly built team in a weak era



bc no finals team ever had even a sliver of a chance at beating them to begin with because the bulls as a team were simply way better than everyone. it wasnt like mike was just carrying a bunch of scrubs, or some talented but poorly built team to a bunch of rings. he had the best of both worlds, something only the lakers, spurs and warriors have had over the past 20 years, and they all won 3+ championships.



its easy to not have those moments when your being guarded by the likes of dan majerle, craig ehlo and john starks, and teams aren't allowed to provide help unless its a blatant double. lets see him do it while guys like kawhi, pg, or tony allen are draped on you, along with two other defenders shading in the lanes.

Lebron played on the 2011 and 2014 Heatles teams. I'd say those teams were stacked pretty heavy. Refresh our memories on how that worked out for him. Does Jordan get smoked in 2014 with the same supporting cast? I kinda doubt that, Neo. And I am a Mav's fan and I am not so myopic to think for a single second that we beat the 90's Bulls with our title team.

And I think you and a few others on this forum are underrating the 96 Sonics. They won 64 games and had the 2nd best PT differential in the NBA. 2nd best FG% allowed and Prime GP.

Claiming that the 90's were a weaker era is a subjective argument. We can argue that this is actually a 'weaker' era because of the lack of physicality and 6'5 centers. It's a different brand of basketball. If you like a more fast paced game with everyone shooting 3's then this is for you.

I'll admit that the league expansion did dilute the talent some in the 90s. But overall you still have some solid teams at the top.

[Neo.]

Lebron played on the 2011 and 2014 Heatles teams. I'd say those teams were stacked pretty heavy. Refresh our memories on how that worked out for him. Does Jordan get smoked in 2014 with the same supporting cast? I kinda doubt that, Neo. And I am a Mav's fan and I am not so myopic to think for a single second that we beat the 90's Bulls with our title team.

And I think you and a few others on this forum are underrating the 96 Sonics. They won 64 games and had the 2nd best PT differential in the NBA. 2nd best FG% allowed and Prime GP.

Claiming that the 90's were a weaker era is a subjective argument. We can argue that this is actually a 'weaker' era because of the lack of physicality and 6'5 centers. It's a different brand of basketball. If you like a more fast paced game with everyone shooting 3's then this is for you.

I'll admit that the league expansion did dilute the talent some in the 90s. But overall you still have some solid teams at the top.

this post is full of wrong on so many levels :lol

[lefty]

Jordan easily gets smoked with the same supported cast
lol thinking the 90s were more physical what a fucking myth

[koriwhat]

who cares what obama has to say... oh wow he can shoot a 3 pointer in an empty gym. wgaf!

[lefty]

who cares what obama has to say... oh wow he can shoot a 3 pointer in an empty gym. wgaf!
:lol

[lefty]

plenty of great players wouldnt be challenged if they had a stacked and perfectly built team in a weak era



bc no finals team ever had even a sliver of a chance at beating them to begin with because the bulls as a team were simply way better than everyone. it wasnt like mike was just carrying a bunch of scrubs, or some talented but poorly built team to a bunch of rings. he had the best of both worlds, something only the lakers, spurs and warriors have had over the past 20 years, and they all won 3+ championships.



its easy to not have those moments when your being guarded by the likes of dan majerle, craig ehlo and john starks, and teams aren't allowed to provide help unless its a blatant double. lets see him do it while guys like kawhi, pg, or tony allen are draped on you, along with two other defenders shading in the lanes.
Exactly