Derrick, Q, Keldon all injured prior to training camp

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1333894603766902794?s=19

[Degoat]

Well GD lmao Patty Mills SZN boys

[Degoat]

At least Devin should get some playing time maybe lol

[Dejounte]

When you read it quicky like I did, you almost read it like Derrick broke his toe.

It's apparently just bumps and bruises.

These guys going way too hard in the weight room or practice.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Pop will use this as an excuse to start patty mills all season and never play white Murray and Johnson together :pop: “they just didn’t have enough time in training camp together”

[Robz4000]

:lol it begins

[NASpurs]

:pop: Good, put Bud on the phone and see if we can trade for Bryn. I don't care how many first round picks we send, we need his floor spacing abilities ASAP.

[Degoat]

It’s since been mentioned that it’s just bumps and bruises so I doubt they will miss much time

[NASpurs]

Consistently seeing Derrick on and off the injured list always makes me wary when it comes to extension talks.

[Degoat]

Consistently seeing Derrick on and off the injured list always makes me wary when it comes to extension talks.

Happens when you take 5 charges in a game lol imo DWhite has earned whatever extension they give him

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1333900061986725889?s=19

[EasyMoney]

Even more likely that devin will get playing time to start the season

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1333899691851976704?s=19

Ball movement will continue.

[Dejounte]

Even more likely that devin will get playing time to start the season

I concur with TheDrewShow on that this is CIA Pop. Probably expedites Devin's acclimation with the team.

[The Truth #6]

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1333899691851976704?s=19

Ball movement will continue.

Yes. Thank you.

[The Truth #6]

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1333899691851976704?s=19

Ball movement will continue.

Yes. Thank you.

[Dejounte]

So it pretty much means less ISO ball for DeMar, less post ups for Aldridge (probably), and more reliance on the youth.

[Degoat]

Hope none of the youngins get Covid either that will really screw there chances at minutes

[Dejounte]

First game of the season, given this update:

Murray/ Tre
Lonnie/ Mills
DeMar/ Vassell
Trey Lyles/ Gay/ KBD
LaMarcus/ Poetl/ Eubanks

[Dejounte]

Hope none of the youngins get Covid either that will really screw there chances at minutes

True.

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1333894836848562176?s=19

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Sounds like a non-issue to me. Protecting his Big 3 from meaningless practices to start the season. Just what anyone coaching a group of superstars would be doing.



Nothing to see here. Move along......

[Robz4000]

Looks like they'll only miss preseason games, not regular season games.

[TD 21]

Never fails. This appears to be a chronic issue with White. On the one hand, it'll help them in contract negotiations, on the other hand it's all the more reason why not selling high and drafting Haliburton might have been a missed opportunity.

If he can't handle 30+ mpg, then you can forget about him starting because they need him to run the 2nd unit offense either way and it'll be easier to manage minutes off the bench.

Current rotation . . .

Lyles/Gay
DeRozan/Vassell
Aldridge/Poeltl
Walker/Mills
Murray/Mills

[Dejounte]

If Spoon was in his "big three" why did he fuck him over and give him 2 way contract while giving a smaller less athletic dude who wasn't even the best point guard from duke in his family? Dejounte Thoughts on Jone's comments on the new big three?

He probably forgot Q was included in the 3 lmao

Q is good but still has a lot to prove before being included in any "big 3"

He gonna get paid eventually.

[superbigtime]

bumps and bruises ... I'll take it.

[itzsoweezee]

Looks like they'll only miss preseason games, not regular season games.

Jeff McDonald reported otherwise:

"Pop clarified there is a high probability these players will be unavailable to start the regular season as well."

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333907323245502470?s=19

Change is here and it's here to stay.

[Degoat]

I hope this isn’t the case but knowing pop, I’d bet Keita bates diop will fill the backup SF position if Keldon is out for a handful of games

[Joseph Kony]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333907323245502470?s=19

Change is here and it's here to stay.

i'll believe it when i see it

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1333910680894902272?s=19

[8FOR!3]

So imo you play Tre as the backup PG, Lonnie as the starting SG, play Patty with Tre, and Vassell as the backup 3. Until they come back. Or you start Patty with Murray and then it's Trey/Lonnie/Vassell off the bench.

[timvp]

Here we go :pctoss

[Mr. Body]

White is never not hurt.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333914374243758083?s=09

In Pop's own words.

He says they're committed to making the playoffs.

[exstatic]

i'll believe it when i see it

To me, it seems like a pretty clear “farewell” to LMA, DDR, AND Rudy. Maybe that was DDRs issue on his IG story. They’re all on ending contracts,and they all play ISO ball. I think they tried to move some or all of them, but figure that the offers from contenders wanting to bolster their teams will be better once the deadline approaches.

Pop never says stuff this specific about his system, or what the Spurs are going to run. He just doesn’t. I, for one, would welcome running a system even 75% as free flowing as The Beautiful Game.

[Dejounte]

To me, it seems like a pretty clear “farewell” to LMA, DDR, AND Rudy. Maybe that was DDRs issue on his IG story. They’re all on ending contracts,and they all play ISO ball. I think they tried to move some or all of them, but figure that the offers from contenders wanting to bolster their teams will be better once the deadline approaches.

Pop never says stuff this specific about his system, or what the Spurs are going to run. He just doesn’t. I, for one, would welcome running a system even 75% as free flowing as The Beautiful Game.

What IG story?

[Dejounte]

White is never not hurt.

This sentence sounds soooo much like Manu from ten years ago.

Another sentence would be, "Manu gives up his body so much when he plays" which is used for White often

[Dejounte]

Isn't Manu an example of someone getting fucked over in contract talks early in his career? (Only to be overpaid towards the end of his career) or was that someone else?

[Degoat]

White is no where near Manu on so many levels. Like I said, he is no franchise corner stone untouchable people here want to make him out to be. When sitting next to Bryn Pattie and Insta Hoopa on bad days he looks like more than he really is or ever will be.

Nice asset to trade. thats my stance on him.

Geeze Manu was a type of talent to take a rag tag group of South Americans to the Olympics and beat the whole world including Tim and POOP. WTF has white done? Not suck as bad as the aforementioned?

Next Olympics he almost did it again, but injuries age and ..... They won the Bronze

He didn’t say he was manu, of course there won’t be another manu lmao all he said is DWhite gives up his body on plays like manu did which is true

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333914374243758083?s=09

In Pop's own words.

He says they're committed to making the playoffs.

This isn’t a tankable team. Too much young talent already, and a couple of former All Star vets. With the ten team conference format, Spurs could very well make the playoffs, either outright, or via play in. I think we would have made them last year just by subtracting the players who have been subtracted. The change in play pace will make them better, too.

[exstatic]

What IG story?

He had some whiney bitch ass post about things not being what they seemed in his timeline.

[tonight...you]

White is no where near Manu on so many levels. Like I said, he is no franchise corner stone untouchable people here want to make him out to be. When sitting next to Bryn Pattie and Insta Hoopa on bad days he looks like more than he really is or ever will be.

Nice asset to trade. thats my stance on him.

Geeze Manu was a type of talent to take a rag tag group of South Americans to the Olympics and beat the whole world including Tim and POOP. WTF has white done? Not suck as bad as the aforementioned?

Next Olympics he almost did it again, but injuries age and ..... They won the Bronze
I am totally digging the hyper-negative energy flowing through you right now!
You can't even read straight!

Awesome stuff.

[Robz4000]

Jeff McDonald reported otherwise:

"Pop clarified there is a high probability these players will be unavailable to start the regular season as well."

Welp, missed that. My original comment stands, :lol it begins.

[Prime BEEF]

He had some whiney bitch ass post about things not being what they seemed in his timeline.
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Really hard to figure out what’s in that dudes head though. Could be a reference to just about anything

[Dejounte]

I think Lonnie is the one who will benefit most from these absences. He will get more touches. Hopefully, he shines.

[Dejounte]

Isn't it a huge sigh of relief not having to think about Forbes being the one to sponge up all these newly available minutes? Thank the Lawd they let him go.

And no more worrying about Beli, either.

[tonight...you]

To confirm, you think that
Manu=White
Manu<White
Manu>White

Is that easy to read?

White is a good asset, not an Olympic champion two time medalist rightful Pistons finals mvp and 4 time Champion.

If his(white) value is high, then sell.
Lol. You make a lot of assumptions about my thinking when I never gave you my thoughts upon the subject you speak about.

[The Truth #6]

Is the majority opinion in this thread that the players aren't actually injured and that this a ploy by Pop? I don't see any gain in that, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Is the majority opinion in this thread that the players aren't actually injured and that this a ploy by Pop? I don't see any gain in that, tbh.

With years of this crazy "wizard Pop" thing, fans have come to believe that he is a kind of God in control of everything.

[tonight...you]

I just asked your thoughts, and you accuse me of not "read straight".

Lets be clear, if you want to say the Derrick White is a hard nosed player and thats why he is hurt. Say that. Don't then compare him to Manu, you loose all credibility. I know credibility is a thing that most posters on this forum dont seek to maintain. Because, LULZ shit posting and stuff. Also you loose credibility when you respond back to me about some assumptions when i directly asked you your stance on a player, made it easy for you to understand, and you dodge and duck. Stay out of my mentions.
Maybe you should use your use of the question mark better then.
You made a statement and followed it up with your question "Is that easy to read?".

If that was your question then: Kind of. I was confused about your all-over-the-place assumption to intro.

[offset formation]

When you read it quicky like I did, you almost read it like Derrick broke his toe.

It's apparently just bumps and bruises.

These guys going way too hard in the weight room or practice.

Derrick is always going to have foot/toe issues due to how he walks/runs. He tends to run and cut on the ball and on the toes of his feet moreso than most

[Sugus]

I really hope the FO factors in White's concurrent foot issues when talking about an extension... It's no joke, and is looking like it'll follow him through his career. Might earn the Spurs a Curry-like discount on an otherwise very solid player. Overall though, excited for preseason, even with no Keldon/White/Q.

It's Lonnie time :fishing

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1333958706162249728?s=19

[Chinook]

Murray, Jones
Mills, Walker
DeRozan, Vassell
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

Murray, Mills
Walker, Vassell
DeRozan, Samanic
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

Murray, Mills
Walker, Vassell
DeRozan, Gay
Aldridge, Lyles
Poeltl, Eubanks

Those are the three likeliest rotations in my mind. I guess we'll see in camp, but I don't think Jones is going to play PG over Mills or SG over Vassell. I think Pop's going to go as big as he can (fuck the bubble lineup) and downsize when he has to. I think Pop will make at least a token attempt to start Poeltl/Aldridge again, both for Jakob and for Eubanks. Samanic is a four in my mind, but I don't think that's a settled issue for Pop. I also consider KBD getting time at the three to be more likely than Jones getting into the rotation, but you never know.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1333958706162249728?s=19

Phew, doesn't sound like it's a serious thing. Honestly don't mind if he even ends up missing a couple of season games, as long as he comes back 100%. We could use a tank....

[Dejounte]

Trey Lyles is the one who came out of the blue last year. My dark horse pick is Tre Jones to be that random dude to get minutes. Sorry, my boy TheDrewShow

And I'm not saying he's any good at all

Unpredictable things happen

[Dejounte]

I think people have short memory when it comes to Mills running point

The offense becomes a total shitshow when he's running it.

Out of all the dudes on the roster, Patty is #2 behind Rudy on my list of "GTFO"

[Mr. Body]

Trey Lyles is the one who came out of the blue last year. My dark horse pick is Tre Jones to be that random dude to get minutes. Sorry, my boy TheDrewShow

And I'm not saying he's any good at all

Unpredictable things happen

Came out of the blue to do what? Trey Lyles is the same barely passable player the Nuggets tossed aside, only the Spurs desperately need a body in the poition.

[Dejounte]

Phew, doesn't sound like it's a serious thing. Honestly don't mind if he even ends up missing a couple of season games, as long as he comes back 100%. We could use a tank....

Keldon:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f0739a42ba029d7570d6bebdee672c93/tenor.gif

[Dejounte]

Came out of the blue to do what? Trey Lyles is the same barely passable player the Nuggets tossed aside, only the Spurs desperately need a body in the poition.

Over Gay though?

Pop entrusting starter minutes like that to a player below the age of 30? To a non-vet?

It wasn't normal.

[The Truth #6]

Murray, Jones
Mills, Walker
DeRozan, Vassell
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

Murray, Mills
Walker, Vassell
DeRozan, Samanic
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

Murray, Mills
Walker, Vassell
DeRozan, Gay
Aldridge, Lyles
Poeltl, Eubanks

Those are the three likeliest rotations in my mind. I guess we'll see in camp, but I don't think Jones is going to play PG over Mills or SG over Vassell. I think Pop's going to go as big as he can (fuck the bubble lineup) and downsize when he has to. I think Pop will make at least a token attempt to start Poeltl/Aldridge again, both for Jakob and for Eubanks. Samanic is a four in my mind, but I don't think that's a settled issue for Pop. I also consider KBD getting time at the three to be more likely than Jones getting into the rotation, but you never know.

That’s not great for Luka getting minutes. But it makes some sense. Luka might be a player that has to impress Pop in camp and preseason (as truncated as that is) to earn a role out of the gate.

[cool cat]

Great, now every time I hear a player being injured and missing time before the season begins I think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3uBukH9-E

[Mr. Body]

Over Gay though?

Pop entrusting starter minutes like that to a player below the age of 30? To a non-vet?

It wasn't normal.

Pop has started shitty players in the past in order to bring more talent off the bench.

[Dejounte]

Pop has started shitty players in the past in order to bring more talent off the bench.

Yes, but gradually. Never as quick as what he did with Lyles. If I'm wrong (and I could be)-- name some examples.

[KobesAchilles]

This is the worst possible news for Lonnie. Playing with dribble dribble DJ and dribble dribble DDR and post up LMA. He’s never gonna get the ball

[PhantomDashCam]

What is with these interviewers and their questions?

Once you hear about the injuries to 2 of your expected rotation players...
No one’s able to adapt and ask about expectations for the rooks?

Lonnie featuring in the rotation? Lack of 3 point shooting after Bryn and Marco’s departures, who’s picking up the slack?

Is the G-League team Toros considering the Atlanta bubble scenario?

- I’m thinking Poeltl is going to start. Pop clearly wants the starters to run, defend, share the ball.
My only concern would be running a Tre, Mills backcourt off the bench.
Offensively, both would be competent but on defence, especially off ball - yikes...

[Dejounte]

This is the worst possible news for Lonnie. Playing with dribble dribble DJ and dribble dribble DDR and post up LMA. He’s never gonna get the ball

They have literally trended away from that. And there's literally quotes stating otherwise. Some of y'all are hopeless.

[KobesAchilles]

They have literally trended away from that. And there's literally quotes stating otherwise. Some of y'all are hopeless.
13 year vet.
13 year vet.
11 year vet
I will believe it when I see it.

[offset formation]

Lol. You make a lot of assumptions about my thinking when I never gave you my thoughts upon the subject you speak about.

Careful. He'll put you on ignore.

[SpursDynasty85]

I can see Poetl and Aldridge splitting minutes. Aldridge is gonna want to extend his career a few more years and should focus on 3 & D with a little post up here and there. Poetl is in his prime and should be getting at least 20 mpg.

[alfahdlan]

I expect poetl to start ala splitter then, then sub after 5 or so minutes by Gay or Lyles ala
Diaw then. Just my thoughts.

[talkspurs]

Giannis is younger then Thanasis. Some also think the younger of the Ball brothers are better.

[Degoat]

You could argue Marc Gasol is better then Pau, also Brent Barry was better then Jon Barry lol

[Dejounte]

My beef with Tre is the he got guaranteed money from out of no where based on reputation alone and Q's work wasn't rewarded by a Coach and "Program" that used "payed his dues, program" To justify Giant contracts to people like patty mills and playing time to dopes like Byrn Forbes.

Empirically if you look at the history of brother tandems in the NBA the younger brother is almost NEVER(I haven't found a one) better than the older brother. Most recently the Morris Twins, the one minutes older is statistically better than the younger one.

So Tre's brother Tyrus was the better guard at Duke.
Won a National Tittle was Player of the Final four doing it and is a Journeyman bench player arguably no better than NBA CHAMPION Corey Joseph. Spurs didn't give Corey money, a guy who paid his dues, embraced the program, and won a Chip. So why give Trey money?

One More Example of the younger brothers in the NBA not living up to the Older more talented brother.


Jrue Holliday has two younger brothers both on Indiana, one is much taller and physically bigger than him, they are nice rotation players but no where near Holiday's level of talent.

That may all be true

But I think we're on the same page that the team needs to surround Keldon with good players

The move to underpay Q is an injustice to him and him only

It benefits the Spurs, giving them more flexibility to keep depth for the future to surround Keldon with a good supporting cast

I will complain only if Q leaves as a free agent due to being disrespected by the amount of pay this year

For now, it is an issue between the Spurs and Q. Whether it is a mismanagement of financials, that is determined by two factors:

1) Tre sucks - which you brought good points on already. However, the amount being paid to him is so little that #2 below is more important
2) Q leaves because he was disrespected

If Tre sucks, and Q stays after this contract... Then no harm was done.

If Tre is an okay player, and Q stays... The Spurs bolstered their depth and secured their future. Big win scenario.

This is my stance on it.

[tonight...you]

Careful. He'll put you on ignore.
Heaven forbid.

[SAGirl]

Jeff McDonald reported otherwise:

"Pop clarified there is a high probability these players will be unavailable to start the regular season as well."
Does anyone have bone growing in their thighs? Does anyone need 2nd and 3rd opinions in Philly or NY?

-PS rhetorical questions. I couldn’t resist.

[Degoat]

Only in SA would there be Quinndary Stans lmao I hope he turns into something but that’s big stretch imo

[timtonymanu]

Heaven forbid.

Not sure why he’s going off. :lol he may be hiding behind Dejounte’s solid posting and trying to come off as objective as possible but this is the same poster that spammed the forum last year with his YouTube video that no one watched about how Becky actually hates Pop.

[talkspurs]

Keep sniffin those grade bruh.... Sad thing you think this post is a win instead of an indictment against all your post not being shit.

Yep because yours are so great. Are you really saying you would rather have Thanasis over Giannis? I have noticed you cant admit your wrong and just like to block people. I gave you two examples and down below I see some more. This was done without much research. yes you can find some to support your point but you "I have found none".

[Dejounte]

Only in SA would there be Quinndary Stans lmao I hope he turns into something but that’s big stretch imo

Q is exactly the kind of player that would be under the radar amongst fans because he doesn't exhibit any kind of flashy moves with his play style

Y'all will see soon enough

[Degoat]

Q is exactly the kind of player that would be under the radar amongst fans because he doesn't exhibit any kind of flashy moves with his play styleY'all will see soon enoughMaybe so, but there’s a reason the spurs re-upped him on a 2 way deal and not a guaranteed spot with the varsity team lol

[Dejounte]

Maybe so, but there’s a reason the spurs re-upped him on a 2 way deal and not a guaranteed spot with the varsity team lol

So they could use it on Tre?

As someone noted here, there were second round picks who wouldn't accept a two way contract. It is possible Tre was one of those.

I'm not an expert on the CBA, but when you complete the first year of a two way contract, it's usually just easier to financially maneuver the cap by fulfilling the second year? This is my guess.

On the other hand, it could be part of the roster construction-- they could see we have too many combo guards at the moment and want to wait until next year to bring him in. Whereas Tre is more of a natural point guard and we only have two of those.

[timtonymanu]

Q is exactly the kind of player that would be under the radar amongst fans because he doesn't exhibit any kind of flashy moves with his play style

Y'all will see soon enough

I’m firmly on the Q bandwagon. Really wanna see him do well here.

[Degoat]

So they could use it on Tre?

As someone noted here, there were second round picks who wouldn't accept a two way contract. It is possible Tre was one of those.

I'm not an expert on the CBA, but when you complete the first year of a two way contract, it's usually just easier to financially maneuver the cap by fulfilling the second year? This is my guess.

On the other hand, it could be part of the roster construction-- they could see we have too many combo guards at the moment and want to wait until next year to bring him in. Whereas Tre is more of a natural point guard and we only have two of those.

I don’t think the spurs draft Tre if he refuses to sign a 2 way deal, that would imply he isnt over himself lol in The Brian Wright interview he talked about how lucky they were that Tre fell to them, I think they like him more then Q but that’s just my opinion

[MultiTroll]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333914374243758083?s=09

In Pop's own words.

He says they're committed to making the playoffs.
I don't remember the Spurs winning a Championship since 2014.

:lol Woke Pop has figured out 3 pointers are part of the game.
:lol Glad it's only 5 years in coming.
:lol LA will have no problem buying in "because he wants to win." That will be a first.

[Dejounte]

You know NONE if this is a problem if Spurms Urkle and Poop didn't panic and Sign a Carrolle for stupid money and then buy him out after not playing him(maybe he was done I'll give you that)
Spurms are six milly on the line this year alone, that kinda money could have been nice..... so year. Mismanagement. Emphasis on MISS

Very true

[rankingtear]

Q was a restricted free agent. I would have guessed 30 teams never offered him a guaranteed contract.

[tmtcsc]

He didn’t say he was manu, of course there won’t be another manu lmao all he said is DWhite gives up his body on plays like manu did which is true

Yes, but the huge difference is - Manu gave up his body and didn't miss games unless he had a broken bone or one of his testicles removed. Dude was other level when it came to toughness.

[phxspurfan]

White always hurting his toe

[phxspurfan]

Q was a restricted free agent. I would have guessed 30 teams never offered him a guaranteed contract.

and you would probably be right. He didnt show much. There are better players not in the NBA. Like Jimmer, or that thief Ball brother :lol

[BackHome]

Yeah like White but his feet issues won’t seem to go away and it’s almost guaranteed he will miss at least 12 games a year just from this.

[exstatic]

13 year vet.
13 year vet.
11 year vet
I will believe it when I see it.

“It’s time to make a change, play a different way, demand it and move forward”

-Gregg Popovich, yesterday

[exstatic]

White always hurting his toe

Foot. Keldon is the one with the toe.

[Dejounte]

Sounds to me, with Pop's quotes yesterday, that his words indicate he will have a higher standard for his players to play a certain way. I wonder if this opens the door for him to be more hard on DJ, and reduce his minutes.

If you really think about it, roster moves withstanding, the best way to optimize the rotation is to take DJ out of the rotation. He can't be a 3 and D, unless he has improved his shot and strength a ton. He's the only one left that hurts the team in a big way out there. Well, aside from Patty playing point and Rudy being a blackhole/ a dumbass on the court.

[exstatic]

Sounds to me, with Pop's quotes yesterday, that his words indicate he will have a higher standard for his players to play a certain way. I wonder if this opens the door for him to be more hard on DJ, and reduce his minutes.

If you really think about it, roster moves withstanding, the best way to optimize the rotation is to take DJ out of the rotation. He can't be a 3 and D, unless he has improved his shot and strength a ton. He's the only one left that hurts the team in a big way out there. Well, aside from Patty playing point and Rudy being a blackhole/ a dumbass on the court.

I didn’t take it that way at all. I saw it as a clear message to the vets. LMA, DDR, and Rudy are all on ending contracts. They are the ones playing ISO ball. DJ doesn’t take a lot of 3s, but he does take them, and make them at about a 37% clip. DDR intentionally passes them up. I think that will no longer be tolerated.

[rankingtear]

Sounds to me, with Pop's quotes yesterday, that his words indicate he will have a higher standard for his players to play a certain way. I wonder if this opens the door for him to be more hard on DJ, and reduce his minutes.

If you really think about it, roster moves withstanding, the best way to optimize the rotation is to take DJ out of the rotation. He can't be a 3 and D, unless he has improved his shot and strength a ton. He's the only one left that hurts the team in a big way out there. Well, aside from Patty playing point and Rudy being a blackhole/ a dumbass on the court.

Opposite. Multiple ball handlers needed for bubble offense , DJ has also the highest potential to push the pace because of his rebounding. This is referring to LA, DDR and Gay Pop would cut down on post-ups and iso possesions.

[Dejounte]

I didn’t take it that way at all. I saw it as a clear message to the vets. LMA, DDR, and Rudy are all on ending contracts. They are the ones playing ISO ball. DJ doesn’t take a lot of 3s, but he does take them, and make them at about a 37% clip. DDR intentionally passes them up. I think that will no longer be tolerated.

Well yeah, I didn't say it wasn't a direct message to the vets. Merely saying that in conjunction with that, there could be an indirect message to the younger guys who don't naturally fit with the team and that it could pave the way for an opportunity for the guys who are newer to fight for their spots.

[KobesAchilles]

“It’s time to make a change, play a different way, demand it and move forward”

-Gregg Popovich, yesterday
I heard him. And I hope we do. Changes are obviously needed. But DDR is still going to shy away from 3s, LMA already did change his game up and honestly I have zero complaints about LaSharkus. For all the hate he gets on here he is the only consistent player we have. And Rudy Gay is still goin to jack up shots and play absolutely no defense. I mean as far as Lonnie goes, he is seriously going to average more than 6 shots a game?

[TD 21]

I didn’t take it that way at all. I saw it as a clear message to the vets. LMA, DDR, and Rudy are all on ending contracts. They are the ones playing ISO ball. DJ doesn’t take a lot of 3s, but he does take them, and make them at about a 37% clip. DDR intentionally passes them up. I think that will no longer be tolerated.

I doubt the last part, but I agree with the sentiment.

Basically, he's saying they now have proof of concept that their archaic crap will have them out of the playoffs and that he's no longer going to let them do what they want just to appease them.

This team is up against it as is as far as making the playoffs go and they're all more than likely entering their final season as Spurs anyway, so the days of placating them are over.

[Dejounte]

I heard him. And I hope we do. Changes are obviously needed. But DDR is still going to shy away from 3s, LMA already did change his game up and honestly I have zero complaints about LaSharkus. For all the hate he gets on here he is the only consistent player we have. And Rudy Gay is still goin to jack up shots and play absolutely no defense. I mean as far as Lonnie goes, he is seriously going to average more than 6 shots a game?

DDR shying away from 3s doesn't hurt the team if he continues the role he had during the bubble, which was to facilitate more often and not look for his own shot as often. It made a big difference. He let others shine and handle the ball more.

Rudy is the only one I agree with.

But that's only one player-- not enough to hurt the team's new goals.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1334190585540972550?s=19

Patty is the new Bryn Forbes. Ugh

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334190212222693377?s=19

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334192151480184832?s=19

[Dverde]

It is a contract year for Patty. Coffee isn’t free

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/1334192394661728259?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1334192491176800264?s=19

Don't show KobesAchilles these tweets

[DPG21920]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333914374243758083?s=09

In Pop's own words.

He says they're committed to making the playoffs.

Committed to making the playoffs but added nothing but 2 rookies?

[DPG21920]

I wonder if Whites foot/toe is a long term concern to Sa and if it might lead to a value extension?

[KobesAchilles]

https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/1334192394661728259?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1334192491176800264?s=19

Don't show KobesAchilles (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=50221) these tweets
Prayingdog.gif tbh

But let's be honest, Demar ain't gonna be shooting any 3s :lol

[Spursfanfromafar]

It looks like Pop is going to demand more accountability and push from his veterans to play in a modern style of play than before, this season. That is indeed good to know. DDR, for example, was quite good last season as a facilitator and clutch/efficient scorer. More than his 3 pt shooting (which he should utilise when open), it is his effort on defense & understanding defensive concepts that was disappointing last season. There was some improvement in the Bubble when he played PF, but he can still guard longer SFs in isolation if he puts in the effort and if Pop demands that of him. Rudy Gay has been a model veteran in all his years in SA so far and I think he just needs to keep being efficient. Aldridge is now old and has lost his lateral speed and so if he can take a back-seat and play fewer but more effective minutes, he would be of great use to the Spurs, still.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334192151480184832?s=19

:lol there sure was a lot of money being put into Patty's bank account.... What a rich quote coming from him :lmao

[KobesAchilles]

DDR shying away from 3s doesn't hurt the team if he continues the role he had during the bubble, which was to facilitate more often and not look for his own shot as often. It made a big difference. He let others shine and handle the ball more.

Rudy is the only one I agree with.

But that's only one player-- not enough to hurt the team's new goals.

How many shots per game do you think Lonnie is going to get? Where would you have him ranked on the team in this regard? Top of my head is DJ, DDR, LMA, Patty, Derrick and Rudy will all have more shot attempts along with KJ as a possibility.

I'm not a point per game kinda guy, but I do focus on shots per game and time of possession. I think Lonnie is going to be the odd man out of the starters. I don't count Lyles bc fuck Lyles :lol

Things I am excited for. A hungry Pop. It's been far too damn long. No Bryn Forbes!!!! Derrick and DJ playing together finally. Vassell and of course my second favorite Spur (behind White) in KJ.

Things I am on the lookout for this season: Less dribble dribble from our guards... but speaking of dribble dribble, can DJ actually dribble the fucking ball in traffic and break down opposing defenses? DJ to shoot a least 3 times as many 3s as he did last year. Will White to continue jacking up 5 triples a game (like he did in the bubble) as well? A consistently assertive Derrick White, that would be nice to see. Pop drawing up a play for Lonnie. Just one please. Vassell/KJ becoming a starter. I hope it happens. And of course any trades of our vets if shit hits the fan :lol

[Seventyniner]

I wonder if Whites foot/toe is a long term concern to Sa and if it might lead to a value extension?

If it's that much of a concern, would the Spurs even want to extend him?

[Degoat]

Dejounte tore his ACL and the spurs extended him, but people are worried about DWhites toe lol

[Sugus]

How many shots per game do you think Lonnie is going to get? Where would you have him ranked on the team in this regard? Top of my head is DJ, DDR, LMA, Patty, Derrick and Rudy will all have more shot attempts along with KJ as a possibility.

I'm not a point per game kinda guy, but I do focus on shots per game and time of possession. I think Lonnie is going to be the odd man out of the starters. I don't count Lyles bc fuck Lyles :lol

Things I am excited for. A hungry Pop. It's been far too damn long. No Bryn Forbes!!!! Derrick and DJ playing together finally. Vassell and of course my second favorite Spur (behind White) in KJ.

Things I am on the lookout for this season: Less dribble dribble from our guards... but speaking of dribble dribble, can DJ actually dribble the fucking ball in traffic and break down opposing defenses? DJ to shoot a least 3 times as many 3s as he did last year. Will White to continue jacking up 5 triples a game (like he did in the bubble) as well? A consistently assertive Derrick White, that would be nice to see. Pop drawing up a play for Lonnie. Just one please. Vassell/KJ becoming a starter. I hope it happens. And of course any trades of our vets if shit hits the fan :lol

I'm interested, did you keep track of Lonnie's shots per game and possession time for last season? It'd be interesting to know, so I can actively watch whether it changes this season, and by how much (I guess there should be a page somewhere with these stats, but idk it). Off the top of my head though, and under the assumption that Pop carries on the Bubble Offense and builds up on it, I can't see Patty, Rudy, nor LMA taking more shots than Lonnie. The first two due to playing time/vet status, and LaMarcus since I'd think Pop will want him camping out more at the 3pt line, where his spacing doesn't require him constantly having to get "mah touches" and shots up to be effective, like his post offense does. He can just stand there, drag out the opposing big man into the perimeter, and be a plus just with that. But we'll see...

Agreed on the rest of your lookout. It's going to be a pretty interesting season for more involved followers of the team, I'm excited.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1333907323245502470?s=19

Change is here and it's here to stay.
I believe... I believe..

[KobesAchilles]

I'm interested, did you keep track of Lonnie's shots per game and possession time for last season? It'd be interesting to know, so I can actively watch whether it changes this season, and by how much (I guess there should be a page somewhere with these stats, but idk it). Off the top of my head though, and under the assumption that Pop carries on the Bubble Offense and builds up on it, I can't see Patty, Rudy, nor LMA taking more shots than Lonnie. The first two due to playing time/vet status, and LaMarcus since I'd think Pop will want him camping out more at the 3pt line, where his spacing doesn't require him constantly having to get "mah touches" and shots up to be effective, like his post offense does. He can just stand there, drag out the opposing big man into the perimeter, and be a plus just with that. But we'll see...

Agreed on the rest of your lookout. It's going to be a pretty interesting season for more involved followers of the team, I'm excited.
I did to start the year (and by start I mean the Rockets game and after since he was benched behind Marco prior to that) and then got pretty freaking frustrated with the vets selfishness, so I stopped watching the team all together for a good while. I picked it up again with the bubble. With the time of possession, I'm sure there is a stat out there for it, but I just kinda eyeball it. He got the ball A LOT more in the bubble and shot A LOT more so I can't complain about that, but I felt like the play calling for him was still pretty bad.

[NASpurs]

Good way to extend your career too if you're not banging down low.

1334188868447465479

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

https://i.imgflip.com/4oofnv.jpg

[rjv]

Sounds like a non-issue to me. Protecting his Big 3 from meaningless practices to start the season. Just what anyone coaching a group of superstars would be doing.



Nothing to see here. Move along......

a voice of reason in the otherwise turbulent seas of ST.

[XDT76]

Opposite. Multiple ball handlers needed for bubble offense , DJ has also the highest potential to push the pace because of his rebounding. This is referring to LA, DDR and Gay Pop would cut down on post-ups and iso possesions.

If we need to push the pace, we need him to leak and get the outlet pass from the bigs and not doing rebounding.

[rankingtear]

If we need to push the pace, we need him to leak and get the outlet pass from the bigs and not doing rebounding.

No outlet passing big on the team second best is a grab and go guard.

[pad300]

https://youtu.be/6syzGRJOrpc

Drew, come on, try a little harder...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. VLyyAJTcBc9GbMFvPL2d_wHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1

That ain't Blazers colors dude.

[XDT76]

No outlet passing big on the team second best is a grab and go guard.

Yeah, Timmy has spoilt us for so long. However DJM's handling and vision needs to improve to push the pace, last season his fast break the best we can describe is mixed.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Drew, come on, try a little harder...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. VLyyAJTcBc9GbMFvPL2d_wHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1

That ain't Blazers colors dude.

No doubt. At least Photoshop a "P" over the "J". Come on!!

[superbigtime]

Foot. Keldon is the one with the toe.

D White seems to have recurrent foot issues... fasciitis. Is it always same side?

[RC_Drunkford]

Committed to making the playoffs but added nothing but 2 rookies?

"you can take 15 guys off the street and I can coach them to the playoffs" :pop:

[Thomas82]

Committed to making the playoffs but added nothing but 2 rookies?

IKR.....make it make sense!!

[EasyMoney]

Keldon may be available for the first game.
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1341520979814694920?s=19

[Dex]

Keldon may be available for the first game.
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1341520979814694920?s=19

Follow-up to this:

1341505789731725314

[r0drig0lac]

Keldon may be available for the first game.
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1341520979814694920?s=19

https://media.tenor.com/images/a9dd3adc712b893d38e178c472e72662/tenor.gif

[emanueldavidginobili]

1341538087378313216

[EasyMoney]

Yep. He's ready to go.
https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1341538100577759233?s=19

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1341538685783846912?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1341538916617302021?s=19

[Dennis the Menace]

Keldon “Big Body” Johnson gonna bring the pain

[Mugen]

I'm excited to see KJ's development this season. Love his work ethic and his demeanor on the court tbh. Hopefully it translates to lot of success for him.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck yeah. Lets go Keldon. Glad he's ready. Start his ass.

[RC_Drunkford]

Can’t wait to see Big Body destroy Fathead

[Dhbsr555]

Let’s go big body ! Teach Lonnie how to finish at the rim

[Leetonidas]

Big Body bout to put the league on notice tbh... The rest of the fans in the league bout to find out what we already know

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

The mustang is going to run wild this season!!!

[ace3g]

Those quotes from Keldon are the equivalent of ...

https://i.imgur.com/nD2LWjO.gif?noredirect

[pookenstein]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1341538916617302021?s=19

8 pounds of muscle since the bubble. Let that sink in. Let's hope Pop let's him loose tonight.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduXb4wKvMsPZYfC/giphy.gif

[Sugus]

Those quotes from Keldon are the equivalent of ...

https://i.imgur.com/nD2LWjO.gif?noredirect

Man, Keanu Reeves absolutely made those movies. Even the first one would've been a snorefest with any other actor except for a select few.

Let's hope Keldon John Wick's the league this season.