Bellicheat vs Brady 2020. Who had the better year?

[MultiTroll]

Ya barring a complete collapse by Tampon Bay, Tom wins.
The Cam experiment was more bad then good. He's had some good games, but, more bad ones.

Is he simply a slacker when it comes to game study? Prefers instead to study the latest in overpriced gay mens clothing?

Anywho should we just wrap it up that Brady won by quite a margin over Bill in Year 1 post Cheatriots?

[DAF86]

Considering what each had to work with, easily Belichick. Not only Brady had much more talent around him, he also got the far easier schedule. Have the Bucs and the Patriots switch schdules and conferences and the Patriots make the playoffs while the Bucs don't. The worst thing is that, given a couple of favourable matchups (like facing the NFC East winner in the first round and Green Bay in the second) the Bucs could make it all the way to the NFC championship game or even the Super Bowl. And everybody will be claiming Brady > Belichick when that wasn't the case at all this season.

[MultiTroll]

Considering what each had to work with, easily Belichick.
'Cheat had all offseason to go with a QB decision. He went with Cam.

As to opponents, well i guess for the 1st time in 20 years as a Cheatriot, the Division has a formidable opponent in Buffalo and a decent one in Miami. Yet Tampon Tom has the Saints so i dunno. Do Carolina and ATL offset the :lol Jets?

[spurraider21]

easily brady

[Wes Welker]

So far it appears to be Brady, but considering he handpicked his team and make them bend over backwards to accommodate his every whim, IMO it means anything short of an NFC Championship Game appearance would be an absolute failure.

Bill had a record number of opt outs before the season, which is not his fault.....but he also trusted in Cam, the McDerpy Twins, and his mulleted meth-head Jesse Pinkman lookalike son, which absolutely is his fault. All the same, going 7-9 or better with this dogshit roster is a near miraculous performance, even if he’s the architect of said dogshit roster.

[Wes Welker]

Considering what each had to work with, easily Belichick. Not only Brady had much more talent around him, he also got the far easier schedule. Have the Bucs and the Patriots switch schdules and conferences and the Patriots make the playoffs while the Bucs don't. The worst thing is that, given a couple of favourable matchups (like facing the NFC East winner in the first round and Green Bay in the second) the Bucs could make it all the way to the NFC championship game or even the Super Bowl. And everybody will be claiming Brady > Belichick when that wasn't the case at all this season.
Brady>Peyton and there’s nothing that will ever change that. Brady is the GOAT and the sooner your third world, soccer loving low IQ having Argentina brain understands that, the better. If you had used actual logic for your take, maybe it could be taken seriously, but clearly your anti-Brady bias is talking here. Brady could plow all the underage girls you dream of if he wanted to, but he’s not a pedo creep like you, so he won’t.

[DAF86]

'Cheat had all offseason to go with a QB decision. He went with Cam.

As to opponents, well i guess for the 1st time in 20 years as a Cheatriot, the Division has a formidable opponent in Buffalo and a decent one in Miami. Yet Tampon Tom has the Saints so i dunno. Do Carolina and ATL offset the :lol Jets?

The Bucs also got to play the NFC East this season, while the Patriots had to play the NFC West. Patriots had to play división winners, while the Bucs played 3rd seeds. The Bucs are 2-5 vs teams with winning record and one of those wins was vs the Raiders, who are more a of .500 team.

And regarding the QB thing, Belichick couldn't pick shit, he had to settle for what was available. The Patriots had no money. Brady left the Patriots in a shitty spot when he went away. Add to that the fact that an entire lineup of players opted out because of Covid and that left the Patriots with arguably the worst crop of talent in the NFL. It is a slight miracle they are toying with a .500 record this late on the season.

[DAF86]

Brady>Peyton and there’s nothing that will ever change that. Brady is the GOAT and the sooner your third world, soccer loving low IQ having Argentina brain understands that, the better. If you had used actual logic for your take, maybe it could be taken seriously, but clearly your anti-Brady bias is talking here. Brady could plow all the underage girls you dream of if he wanted to, but he’s not a pedo creep like you, so he won’t.

lol You pretty much gave the same take as me on your previous post, you small dick having fatso. :lol

[MultiTroll]

The Bucs also got to play the NFC East this season, while the Patriots had to play the NFC West. Patriots had to play división winners, while the Bucs played 3rd seeds. The Bucs are 2-5 vs teams with winning record and one of those wins was vs the Raiders, who are more a of .500 team.

And regarding the QB thing, Belichick couldn't pick shit, he had to settle for what was available. The Patriots had no money. Brady left the Patriots in a shitty spot when he went away. Add to that the fact that an entire lineup of players opted out because of Covid and that left the Patriots with arguably the worst crop of talent in the NFL. It is a slight miracle they are toying with a .500 record this late on the season.
Solid takes. Agree.

Altho with Bellicheat waiting on Tom, word is Bellicheat wanted Tom to leave all along. Plus i thought that backup they had, Stidwell or whatever his name is could play better the Party Boi Cam.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Solid takes. Agree.

Altho with Bellicheat waiting on Tom, word is Bellicheat wanted Tom to leave all along. Plus i thought that backup they had, Stidwell or whatever his name is could play better the Party Boi Cam.

Maybe he trades a pick or player to the Niners to get Garoppolo back and the 49ers sign Prescott in FA.

[Will Hunting]

The Bucs also got to play the NFC East this season, while the Patriots had to play the NFC West. Patriots had to play división winners, while the Bucs played 3rd seeds. The Bucs are 2-5 vs teams with winning record and one of those wins was vs the Raiders, who are more a of .500 team.

And regarding the QB thing, Belichick couldn't pick shit, he had to settle for what was available. The Patriots had no money. Brady left the Patriots in a shitty spot when he went away. Add to that the fact that an entire lineup of players opted out because of Covid and that left the Patriots with arguably the worst crop of talent in the NFL. It is a slight miracle they are toying with a .500 record this late on the season.
:lmao the backflips you’re doing to try and rationalize all of your hot takes about how Brady is nothing without Belichick.

[DAF86]

:lmao the backflips you’re doing to try and rationalize all of your hot takes about how Brady is nothing without Belichick.

1) I didn't say Brady would be nothing without Belichick, tbh. He most likely wouldn't be the "GOAT" though.

2) I'm not doing any backflips, tbh. Just providing plausible scenarios with sound reasoning. Do you think the Patriots wouldn't be able to make the playoffs playing vs teams like the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Washington, Panthers, Falcons, etc. on a conference where a .500 record probably gets you in?

And considering the Bucs are only 2-5 vs teams with winning records, don't you think it would be unlikely for them to make the playoffs having two very good teams on their division while also having to play teams like the Seahawks, Chiefs, Rams, Cardinals, Ravens, etc. on a conference where a team with 11 or 10 wins won't make it?

[Will Hunting]

1) I didn't say Brady would be nothing without Belichick, tbh. He most likely wouldn't be the "GOAT" though.

2) I'm not doing any backflips, tbh. Just providing plausible scenarios with sound reasoning. Do you think the Patriots wouldn't be able to make the playoffs playing vs teams like the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Washington, Panthers, Falcons, etc. on a conference where a .500 record probably gets you in?

And considering the Bucs are only 2-5 vs teams with winning records, don't you think it would be unlikely for them to make the playoffs having two very good teams on their division while also having to play teams like the Seahawks, Chiefs, Rams, Cardinals, Ravens, etc. on a conference where a team with 11 or 10 wins won't make it?
1) You think Manning > Brady which is equally retarded.

2) You’re providing hypotheticals that can neither be proven nor disproven. Call them “plausible” all you want, it doesn’t change the fact they didn’t happen. The common denominator with all of your arguments relating to Brady is an absence of actual facts and a reliance on fairy tales and “what if?” hypotheticals.

[Chris]

shWRwNJzsvY

[DAF86]

shWRwNJzsvY

lol that shit is fucking egregious :lol Who's that ref? He has some explaining to do, tbh.

[Chris]

lol that shit is fucking egregious :lol Who's that ref? He has some explaining to do, tbh.

Just another ref in Tom Brady's pocket.

[MultiTroll]

1) You think Manning > Brady which is equally retarded.
Equally sane.

Sure Brady has more Kobme Championships, but 4 of 6 are a joke.

[Will Hunting]

Equally sane.

Sure Brady has more Kobme Championships, but 4 of 6 are a joke.
Lol both of Peyton’s Super Bowls were with him as a game manager. Two can play at that game of splitting hairs of which Super Bowls “count”.

[MultiTroll]

Lol both of Peyton’s Super Bowls were with him as a game manager. Two can play at that game of splitting hairs of which Super Bowls “count”.
To a man the Broncos said Manning and Von Millers pre games speech were super motivating.

Get back to me when Manning wins with cameras knowing opponents plays, throwing the game 28-3 halftime / Pete Tard Carrol or blatantly rigged reffing.

Kobme and Tom the apt comparison.

[Will Hunting]

To a man the Broncos said Manning and Von Millers pre games speech were super motivating.

Get back to me when Manning wins with cameras knowing opponents plays, throwing the game 28-3 halftime / Pete Tard Carrol or blatantly rigged reffing.

Kobme and Tom the apt comparison.
:lmao:lmao:lmao that’s why Manning is better than Brady? Because of his motivating pre game speech? Holy shit what a pathetic argument.

[MultiTroll]

:lmao:lmao:lmao that’s why Manning is better than Brady? Because of his motivating pre game speech? Holy shit what a pathetic argument.
Eh you're casual Phan who slurps up the Brady Belicheat *wins.

Go inside of a pro locker room.

[i'm_still_beta]

:lmao:lmao:lmao that’s why Manning is better than Brady? Because of his motivating pre game speech? Holy shit what a pathetic argument.

Brady's haters hit new low. Nothing new. That 'argument' though :lmao

At least this "Brady overrated system Qb" and "Belichick can make every scrub Qb play like MVP" narratives are dead for good now.

Let's take a look at Brady's Super Bowl stats:

XXXVI: Patriots 20, Rams 17
• Brady went 16–for–27 with 145 yards and one touchdown
XXXVIII: Patriots 32, Panthers 29
• ​Brady went 32–for–48 with 354 yards, three touchdowns and one interception
XXXIX: Patriots 24, Eagles 21
• ​Brady went 23–for–33 with 236 yards and two touchdowns
XLII: Giants 17, Patriots 14
• ​Brady went 29–for–48 with 266 yards and one touchdown
XLVI: Giants 21, Patriots 17
• ​Brady went 27–for–41 with 276 yards, two touchdowns and one interception
XLIX: Patriots 28, Seahawks 24
• ​Brady went 37–for–50 with 328 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions
LI: Patriots 34, Falcons 28 (OT)
• ​Brady went 43–for–62 with 466 yards, two touchdowns and one interception
LII: Eagles 41, Patriots 33
• ​Brady went 28–for–48 with 505 yards and three touchdowns
LIII Patriots 13, Rams 3
• ​Brady went 21–for–35 with 262 yards and interception

Yes, game managers can throw for 466 and 505 yards in the Super Bowl and also lead 5 game-winning drives against strong teams. Bolded stats are especially impressive

Meanwhile Peyton Diffler:
XLI: Colts 29, Bears 17
• ​Manning went 25–for–38 with 247 yards and one touchdown and one interception
XLIV: Saints 31, Colts 17
• ​Manning went 31–for–45 with 333 yards, one touchdown and one interception
XLIX: Seahawks 43, Broncos 8
• ​Manning went 34–for–49 with 280 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions
50: Broncos 24, Panthers 10 (OT)
• ​Diffler went 13–for–23 with 141 yards, interception

Peyton also has always played for the offense-first teams, while Brady played for balanced, defense-first and offense-first teams evenly distributed

Here is the question: who's better Qb?

[i'm_still_beta]

shWRwNJzsvY

American football and basketball are extremely entertaining sports. NFL is a joke. As well as NBA. Also 260+ men aren't supposed to have 4.4-4,5 40-yard dash times. As well as 300+ man isn't supposed to have 4.65 40-yard dash. Hello, Terron Armstead! Something fishy. Every sport has dopers but NA leagues testing is absolute joke.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lol both of Peyton’s Super Bowls were with him as a game manager. Two can play at that game of splitting hairs of which Super Bowls “count”.

First one no, Manning was that dude. Mathis/Freeney edge rush tandem were just good for not choking away Peyton's leads in Indy.
Second one absolutely yes... Miller/DWare destroyed Newton's soul, and Manning was an average bus driver.

Brady >>> Manning.

[Will Hunting]

First one no, Manning was that dude. Mathis/Freeney edge rush tandem were just good for not choking away Peyton's leads in Indy.
Second one absolutely yes... Miller/DWare destroyed Newton's soul, and Manning was an average bus driver.

Brady >>> Manning.
:lol Peyton had 3 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in the 4 playoff games he played in 2006. His defense won that Super Bowl. How was he not a game manager?

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Peyton had 3 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in the 4 playoff games he played in 2006. His defense won that Super Bowl. How was he not a game manager?

Against....... Rex Grossman? :rollin

Mitch Trubisky is Steve Young/Joe Montana compared to fuckin' Grossman. Seriously.

[Will Hunting]

Against....... Rex Grossman? :rollin

Mitch Trubisky is Steve Young/Joe Montana compared to fuckin' Grossman. Seriously.
You can credit his defense or you can credit Rex Grossman being a historically shitty QB, either way the credit isn’t Peyton’s.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You can credit his defense or you can credit Rex Grossman being a historically shitty QB, either way the credit isn’t Peyton’s.

I don't credit the defense for beating a 3rd string caliber QB at all... Peyton was better than Brady in '06, TD/INT ratio is useless, Peyton won H2H in the AFCCG in a shootout and won the Super Bowl... period.

Not the same as '15 when the game was a slugfast and not a shootout and essentially came down to Ware and Miller kicking Brady's ass and a missed XP and 2 point conversion bailing out TOSB Peyton Manning's retired ass.

[Will Hunting]

I don't credit the defense for beating a 3rd string caliber QB at all... Peyton was better than Brady in '06, TD/INT ratio is useless, Peyton won H2H in the AFCCG in a shootout and won the Super Bowl... period.

Not the same as '15 when the game was a slugfast and not a shootout and essentially came down to Ware and Miller kicking Brady's ass and a missed XP and 2 point conversion bailing out TOSB Peyton Manning's retired ass.
Of course your cherry picking what stats are and aren’t useless, it’s what Manning stans do.

Here is their playoff passer rating in each of their super bowl seasons ranked best to wors, with Dilfer included as the game manager cutoff

:lmao Manning being shittier than Dilfer for both of his Super Bowls.

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2000 Trent Dilfer - 83.7
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

[Arcadian]

You can't even compare coaches to players in terms of importance. Players are always more important and always deserve more credit, because they are actually taking the field/court and directly affecting the outcome of the game.

[i'm_still_beta]

You can't even compare coaches to players in terms of importance. Players are always more important and always deserve more credit, because they are actually taking the field/court and directly affecting the outcome of the game.

Who's more important for Patriots: Edelman or Belichik? If you substract either one from the team whose loss will be more noticeable?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who's more important for Patriots: Edelman or Belichik? If you substract either one from the team whose loss will be more noticeable?

As much as I hate Belicheat, Edelman could have replaced by any old white slot guy his size, like the Bucs' scotty miller right now

[Arcadian]

Who's more important for Patriots: Edelman or Belichik? If you substract either one from the team whose loss will be more noticeable?

Edelman is a smaller role and should be compared to a coach with a smaller role. Edelman is more important than the WR coach, whoever that is.

[i'm_still_beta]

Edelman is a smaller role and should be compared to a coach with a smaller role. Edelman is more important than the WR coach, whoever that is.

I can be wrong, but I think american football is the only sport where head coach is the most important role on the team. He can influence all 3 phases of the game: offense, defense, special teams. Qb is the only rival, but HC is still more important

[MultiTroll]

Considering what each had to work with, easily Belichick. Not only Brady had much more talent around him, he also got the far easier schedule. Have the Bucs and the Patriots switch schdules and conferences and the Patriots make the playoffs while the Bucs don't. The worst thing is that, given a couple of favourable matchups (like facing the NFC East winner in the first round and Green Bay in the second) the Bucs could make it all the way to the NFC championship game or even the Super Bowl. And everybody will be claiming Brady > Belichick when that wasn't the case at all this season.
Again, solid takes but Tom's finish, granted vs out of it Detroit is impressive.
Looks like he is now on target with receivers on deep balls both sides and middle. Thus opening up the run and vice versa.
Malcontent nigga ABrown even contributing.
Like you pointed out with their weak bracket TV Tom could easily win an opening round game and who knows what might Tuck after that.

If Bellicheat plays Cam again tonight and not Stidwell I'm giving it to Tom.

[i'm_still_beta]

40 tds for Thomas ... in Arians' vertical offense. Completely different offense compared to NE btw. Not bad for system qb

[Will Hunting]

Bump

All the hot takes ITT about Belichick reaching 7-9 ecstasy being more impressive than Brady making the playoffs are aging like warm milk :lol

[FrostKing]

Bills vs Brady AFC circle jerk

2021 return of the Bill, Kyle and Sean

[Monostradamus]

Belichick took a 2-14 level roster and coached them up to 7-9. Granted, he’s the main reason the roster was so terrible (plus the most covid opt outs who were really important players), but he did coach them up significantly.

Brady getting to the NFC Championship game means his move to Tampa wasn’t a failure, but now we’ll see if he really “wins” over Belichick.

[FrostKing]

For the record. Brady vs Montana

Also Bill vs Bill

On record I said I rather have Bill Belichick Defense + Montana

[Will Hunting]

On record I said I rather have Bill Belichick Defense + Montana
That’s because you were born with your umbilical cord wrapped around your neck.

[FrostKing]

That’s because you were born with your umbilical cord wrapped around your neck.
Joe more accurate but also better receivers. Defense even. Coach? I'll let you have your piece. Who is 49ers Vinatieri

[Will Hunting]

Joe more accurate but also better receivers. Defense even. Coach? I'll let you have your piece. Who is 49ers Vinatieri
Brady made 6 Super Bowls and won 3 of them without Vinatieri.

Montana is the 2nd best QB of all time imo, Brady’s resume is just on its own level. In 19 seasons where he was a starter (excluding the season where he was injured the whole year), he’s made 9 Super Bowls (potentially 10) and 14 conference championship games. No QB is going to come close to that ever again.

Just look at this year, at 43 years old he threw for 4600 yards and 40 touchdowns in a brand new offense he’d never played before. No other QB has even made it that long.

[FrostKing]

Brady made 6 Super Bowls and won 3 of them without Vinatieri.

Montana is the 2nd best QB of all time imo, Brady’s resume is just on its own level. In 19 seasons where he was a starter (excluding the season where he was injured the whole year), he’s made 9 Super Bowls (potentially 10) and 14 conference championship games. No QB is going to come close to that ever again.

Just look at this year, at 43 years old he threw for 4600 yards and 40 touchdowns in a brand new offense he’d never played before. No other QB has even made it that long.
Yes you have posted wall of accomlodments. Tom has the numbers. Joe has the moments.

I am okay with Brady GOAT argument by this generation. Tom has earned it.

Bill's Defense and Joe sounds 🔥

[Neo.]

joe also benefitted massively from an offensive scheme that defenses generally didn't have the personnel to match up with. the WCO was ahead of its time. it's similar to as wilt and bill playing in a league where everyone else was 6 inches and 50 lbs behind them and had no clue how to guard them

joe was fantastic, and would still be fantastic, but idk if he has near the same level of success if you just swap him and Tom. aside from being more mobile, there is nothing else he does flat out better than Tom.

[i'm_still_beta]

joe also benefitted massively from an offensive scheme that defenses generally didn't have the personnel to match up with. the WCO was ahead of its time. it's similar to as wilt and bill playing in a league where everyone else was 6 inches and 50 lbs behind them and had no clue how to guard them

joe was fantastic, and would still be fantastic, but idk if he has near the same level of success if you just swap him and Tom. aside from being more mobile, there is nothing else he does flat out better than Tom.

Also no salary cap

[i'm_still_beta]

Yes you have posted wall of accomlodments. Tom has the numbers. Joe has the moments.

I am okay with Brady GOAT argument by this generation. Tom has earned it.

Bill's Defense and Joe sounds 

Argument for Brady is that he was successful in both vertical and west coast offenses, while Montana was successful only in wco

[FrostKing]

Argument for Brady is that he was successful in both vertical and west coast offenses, while Montana was successful only in wco
I can buy that with no historic OC. Also Tom being passenger early on.

For the record Tom's portfolio is better. Comebacks were as good. I tip my hat. Closest to the GOATS that any hockey, basketball, and baseball player got

[i'm_still_beta]

Yes you have posted wall of accomlodments. Tom has the numbers. Joe has the moments.

I am okay with Brady GOAT argument by this generation. Tom has earned it.

Bill's Defense and Joe sounds 

And iirc, Walsh wanted to trade Montana for Elway or Marino, benched Joe in PO. Bellichick never treated Brady that way (I'm not sure if it's true that Bill wanted to keep Garoppolo. Read somewhere that Lynch wanted to trade for Brady but Bill laughed at him)

4-4 with 3 smvps and no interceptions is good, but NFC Championships were real Super Bowls in 80's and Joe wasn't magical there. Also dropped int against Bengals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFOBI1cZaM

I have no problems if someone thinks that Montana better than Tom. Brady lacks mobility and it's weakness in his game, and Joe was mobile. Also life is somewhat easier for qbs now. But while Joe had god-level accuracy on short throws his arm strength was lacking. Ability to operate in different types of offenses makes Brady better for me personally

[i'm_still_beta]

I can buy that with no historic OC. Also Tom being passenger early on.

For the record Tom's portfolio is better. Comebacks were as good. I tip my hat. Closest to the GOATS that any hockey, basketball, and baseball player got

Same. I was surprised how mobile and accurate Joe was. Was too young to watch him live

[FrostKing]

Same. I was surprised how mobile and accurate Joe was. Was too young to watch him live
Tom and Kareem I am okay. They have the credentials.

[FrostKing]

And iirc, Walsh wanted to trade Montana for Elway or Marino, benched Joe in PO. Bellichick never treated Brady that way (I'm not sure if it's true that Bill wanted to keep Garoppolo. Read somewhere that Lynch wanted to trade for Brady but Bill laughed at him)

4-4 with 3 smvps and no interceptions is good, but NFC Championships were real Super Bowls in 80's and Joe wasn't magical there. Also dropped int against Bengals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFOBI1cZaM

I have no problems if someone thinks that Montana better than Tom. Brady lacks mobility and it's weakness in his game, and Joe was mobile. Also life is somewhat easier for qbs now. But while Joe had god-level accuracy on short throws his arm strength was lacking. Ability to operate in different types of offenses makes Brady better for me personally

Joe has that perfect record but isn't as dominant regular season as MJ. Tom NFFCG appearance Joe's AFCCG in 95 is really impressive

[DAF86]

Bump

All the hot takes ITT about Belichick reaching 7-9 ecstasy being more impressive than Brady making the playoffs are aging like warm milk :lol

Brady has done nothing really special up to this point, tbh. He beat up on sub 500 teams all season long and relied on his defense on the only wins vs teams with winning records. Making the NFC championship game beating only 2 teams with winning record, I don't think that has ever been done before. Many NFL teams would have made it this far with this kind of schedule/bracket luck, tbh. Including some teams that missed the playoffs.

[MultiTroll]

^ Lucky Tom can thank New Orleans ball receiver's, both WR and RB Kamara.
Not like he played any better then Brees.

[Bynumite]

Brady has done nothing really special up to this point, tbh. He beat up on sub 500 teams all season long and relied on his defense on the only wins vs teams with winning records. Making the NFC championship game beating only 2 teams with winning record, I don't think that has ever been done before. Many NFL teams would have made it this far with this kind of schedule/bracket luck, tbh. Including some teams that missed the playoffs.

The original question is not how special was Brady's season but who had the better season, Brady or Belichick.

As usual, you move the goalpost and go off on a tangent about "what if" scenarios that are impossible to verify, to avoid giving a straight yes or no answer.

I gotta commend your ability to have awful takes across a variety of different sports, FAP :tu

[DAF86]

The original question is not how special was Brady's season but who had the better season, Brady or Belichick.

As usual, you move the goalpost and go off on a tangent about "what if" scenarios that are impossible to verify, to avoid giving a straight yes or no answer.

I gotta commend your ability to have awful takes across a variety of different sports, FAP :tu

My hermano mono said it best, tbh.


Belichick took a 2-14 level roster and coached them up to 7-9. Granted, he’s the main reason the roster was so terrible (plus the most covid opt outs who were really important players), but he did coach them up significantly.

Brady getting to the NFC Championship game means his move to Tampa wasn’t a failure, but now we’ll see if he really “wins” over Belichick.

[DAF86]

The original question is not how special was Brady's season but who had the better season, Brady or Belichick.

As usual, you move the goalpost and go off on a tangent about "what if" scenarios that are impossible to verify, to avoid giving a straight yes or no answer.

I gotta commend your ability to have awful takes across a variety of different sports, FAP :tu

He had 3 turnover worth passes, same as Brees. Bucs' defense made Brees pay, Saints' defense didn't do the same.

[lefty]

They are both grossly overrated

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[spurraider21]

:lmao

[DAF86]

This definitely made it for me. Tom showing his GOATness with this performance tonight. I have finally seen the light. :worthy:

[ducks]

Belichick has missed the playoffs in all 3 seasons Tom Brady did not start multiple games for the Patriots (2020, 2008 & 2000)

[Robz4000]

:lol this thread isn't aging well

[Neo.]

:lmao fap86

[DAF86]

:lmao fap86

Parker speed, Kidd passing and Nash's shooting ability. :lol

[Neo.]

lamar hasn't been figured out, teams just have seen him more and can better gameplan for him resulting in him not playing quite as well as in his MVP year

:lmao

[FrostKing]

Easy to discredit Bill at this moment.

He was the reason Tom has those early 2000 rings.

But as the game "evolved" Tom now swings his nuts.

But we should not be short sighted. Tom will leave and Bill will stay...



https://youtu.be/ERWREcPIoPA

[DAF86]

I'm such a shit poster that I'm embarrassed to post with my original account. I'm just like lakaluva

:lol

[Neo.]

brady isnt the goat, hes a fabricated star. matt cassell could have won 6 rings with bill

:lmao

[DAF86]

The funny thing is you have to make up quotes. Your Roddy boobies one is literal. :lol

[Neo.]

manu > dirk

[DAF86]

Another made up quote. :lol

[Neo.]

:cryAnother:cry made up:cry quote:cry :cry :cry

[DAF86]

Imagine being such a dumbfuck homer that you prop a scrub that played 2 games in the NBA as a player that combines the best attributes of 3 hall of fame players :lol

"Kawhi is nothing more than a Shawn Marion/Shane Battier type player" is another gem from this sporting analyzing genius :lol

There's also that one time he quit on the Mavs for getting Tyson Chandler :lmao

No wonder he tries to hide his original account :lol

[Neo.]

:cry :cry :cry i keep getting exposed for my trash opinions and takes so ive become a bitter aggressive beanpie that gets easily tilted over blatant trolling :cry :cry :cry

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[i'm_still_beta]

Parker speed, Kidd passing and Nash's shooting ability. :lol
Who's that player?

[Neo.]

Who's that player?
was something incredibly stupid i said as a teenager about roddy beaubois, although i didnt say kidd passing, i said rose athleticism :lmao :lmao yes i was completely retarded and have admitted so many times, unlike fap who still defends his manu > dirk take, his kawhi > lebron take, his "kawhi is the best basketball player since jordan take", his "kawhi is the best player on earth take and the clippers have no chance at losing because hes that much better than everyone else" take, his peyton > brady take, among many others that hes been constantly exposed for :rollin

[DAF86]

Who's that player?

Future hall of famer Rodrigue Beaubois :lmao

[DAF86]

was something incredibly stupid i said as a teenager about roddy beaubois, although i didnt say kidd passing, i said rose athleticism :lmao :lmao yes i was completely retarded and have admitted so many times, unlike fap who still defends his manu > dirk take, his kawhi > lebron take, his "kawhi is the best basketball player since jordan take", his "kawhi is the best player on earth take and the clippers have no chance at losing because hes that much better than everyone else" take, his peyton > brady take, among many others that hes been constantly exposed for :rollin

Question son: if you keep lying like that, do you end up believing it yourself? :lol

[Neo.]

:cry :cry :cry

oh, also forgot about your hot takes of comparing mahomes "dropoff" to lamars dropoff, and then claming that lamars dropoff had nothing at all to do with teams having better gameplans for lamar :lmao

[DAF86]

oh, also forgot about your hot takes of comparing mahomes "dropoff" to lamars dropoff, and then claming that lamars dropoff had nothing at all to do with teams having better gameplans for lamar :lmao

Making shit up. Only defense mechanism you have. :lol

Are you still a teenager? That would explain a lot of things, tbh.

[Neo.]

Making shit up. Only defense mechanism you have. :lol

Are you still a teenager? That would explain a lot of things, tbh.

its all quite well documented, and part of your reputation tbqh :lmao

we could also talk about how you like to defend pedophiles, club 4x a week, and probably slept with underage teens "unknowingly" :rollin

[DAF86]

its all quite well documented, and part of your reputation tbqh :lmao

we could also talk about how you like to defend pedophiles, club 4x a week, and probably slept with underage teens "unknowingly" :rollin

I guess you would have no problem providing quotes then, right?

[Neo.]

im a pedo

[DAF86]

Yeah, I thought so. :lol

[MultiTroll]

Yeah, I thought so. :lol
Don't tell me he is the same mentally deficient who doesn't like attractive young adult pussy but does stalk 66 year old+ overweight women?

[Neo.]

Yeah, I thought so. :lol


Don't tell me he is the same mentally deficient who doesn't like attractive young adult pussy but does stalk 66 year old+ overweight women?

:lmao pedos sticking up for each other to justify your sick mentality

[MultiTroll]

Tight young pussy.

MMMMMmmmmn.

[MultiTroll]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f83fb33a43ddbf0e78c004e4a875f804/tumblr_p4o3u308Pr1wxubgvo1_1280.jpg

[DAF86]

Don't you see stretch would never do that? It's sick. :lol

[Bynumite]

Considering what each had to work with, easily Belichick. Not only Brady had much more talent around him, he also got the far easier schedule. Have the Bucs and the Patriots switch schdules and conferences and the Patriots make the playoffs while the Bucs don't. The worst thing is that, given a couple of favourable matchups (like facing the NFC East winner in the first round and Green Bay in the second) the Bucs could make it all the way to the NFC championship game or even the Super Bowl. And everybody will be claiming Brady > Belichick when that wasn't the case at all this season.

Imagine spending the entire season running your mouth about Brady, saying Belichick had the better season. Then, having to watch Brady go on to win the Superbowl and son your QB for the 2nd time in the playoffs :lmao

This one, is a bonafide 1st ballot Hall of Fame of spurstalk shit takes :lmao

FAP :lmao

[spurraider21]

neo is phillip? :lmao

lol phillip

[Will Hunting]

:lmao 7-9 ecstasy > winning the Super Bowl

[Silver&Black]

Imagine spending the entire season running your mouth about Brady, saying Belichick had the better season. Then, having to watch Brady go on to win the Superbowl and son your QB for the 2nd time in the playoffs :lmao

This one, is a bonafide 1st ballot Hall of Fame of spurstalk shit takes :lmao

FAP :lmao

Get em Bynum. :tu

[i'm_still_beta]

Belicheat and it's not close

[spurraider21]

Still can’t believe how mono was the first to call Brady to the Bucs :wow

[Spurtacular]

Still can’t believe how Spurtacular was the only one to call Brady to the Bucs :wow

[Neo.]

has this question been answered? sure would like to hear FAPs take on it.

[i'm_still_beta]

Oo-7oElroD8

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Bumping this thread.

not sure if FAP86 still posts here but can’t wait for some hot take about how Brady’s performance yesterday was just dumb luck :lol

[Bynumite]

For sure one of FAP's worse takes. Up there with Manu>Dirk imho.

[Neo.]

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Another MVP like performance for Brady at an age when every other QB’s arm has given out.

Im almost convinced Belichick was holding him back by failing to put consistent weapons around him.

[MultiTroll]

Did he do it with less then 3 bogus pass interference calls to keep drives alive / make it 1st and goal from the 2 / negate a perfectly good pick by the defense?

I have nothing but props for Toms exercise and nutrition program at age 44.

Bth way wth is carnival barker Chris Berman still doing on the air? Facepalm he's voicing Sundays game highlights now.

[MultiTroll]

The Cam signing was a total shocker for me.

Lets see how 'Cheat does this year with Mac Jones.
Already off to a fabulous start. Take away the botched fumble and Pats are 2-0.