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hater
12-16-2020, 10:43 AM
Wow :wow

Not so fast. Trump has one more card to play, depending on whether Republicans in Congress are more loyal to Trump than they are to the country.

After the electoral votes are cast, they have to be accepted by Congress.

By law, the House and Senate meet together on Jan. 6, and if any state's ballots are challenged by one member of the House and Senate, the chambers must meet separately and vote on the challenge. Given that 126 members of Congress signed on to the Texas lawsuit to overturn Joe Biden's victory, and that many GOP senators have not accepted Biden as the president-elect, some states are going to be challenged.

The Congress over which the old vice president will be presiding will be the new one, sworn in Jan. 3. The new House, narrowly Democratic, will vote down any challenge. But the Senate? Something very different could occur.

Let's suppose that the balance is 52-48 Republican. But Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) have said that Biden won, so Biden wins in a close vote, right? And even if the Senate votes to uphold the challenges, the ECA has a tiebreaking provision - any slate of electors that is certified by their state's governor will be accepted if the House and Senate disagree. Biden, again, would win. Thus, The New York Times assumes that Republican challenges to the electoral votes would be futile.

But what if the Senate never finishes voting? The ECA limits each challenge to no more than two hours of debate. Four states were questioned in the lawsuit (Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania), making four challenges and eight hours of delay. Even in the Senate, eight hours of debate can't last more than a couple days, can it?

The law envisions the ability to challenge electoral votes collectively or individually. Surely a crafty legal mind like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) would challenge, not each state, but each electoral vote separately. And as a delaying tactic, why wouldn't the Trumpers challenge every Biden state, even Delaware?

The goal is not to win, the goal is to delay, to prevent the "tiebreaking" provision of the ECA from happening.

Now comes the endgame maneuver. The Constitution specifies that if there is no Electoral College winner, the Senate chooses the vice president and the House picks the president. The Senate, claiming that there is no Electoral College result, picks Pence.

And it won't be a Biden-Pence administration. The Democratic majority in the House can't pick Biden because when picking a president, the House votes by state delegation, and the Republicans control more House delegations.

The House Democrats will never let that vote happen. Which means we won't have a president. If we don't have a president by noon on Jan. 20, the law of presidential succession comes into play.

Can anything be done to prevent this? Nothing can stop the delay. But the final maneuver of picking Pence by the Senate can be stopped in two ways. First, a few honest Republican senators could vote for Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, since her ticket actually won.

That would almost surely mean the end of their political career.

Failing that, Democratic senators would have to deny the Senate a quorum, which would mean neither chamber would have picked a winner. Under the 12th Amendment, two-thirds of all senators must be present. If 34 Democrats leave the chamber, they can stop Pence's selection. If they do, then all the GOP delay would have led to replacing Biden with ... President Nancy Pelosi.


:lmao we might end up with either president Penis or Pelotudosi :lmao

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/530306-no-biden-hasnt-won-yet-one-more-nightmare-scenario

Will Hunting
12-16-2020, 10:47 AM
Cocaine Mitch has already laid down the law and told the GOP Senators not to engage in any tomfoolery, and he has all but a few GOP senators wrapped around his finger.

There are going to be a few freedom caucus idiots in the house to act likes clowns and try to challenge, but that’s not happening in the senate.

spurraider21
12-16-2020, 10:55 AM
OP thinks that every election in history could have just been invalidated via filibuster, effectively

Winehole23
12-16-2020, 10:59 AM
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hater
12-16-2020, 11:04 AM
OP thinks that every election in history could have just been invalidated via filibuster, effectively

Fake news from fake news bot

hater
12-16-2020, 11:05 AM
Cocaine Mitch has already laid down the law and told the GOP Senators not to engage in any tomfoolery, and he has all but a few GOP senators wrapped around his finger.

There are going to be a few freedom caucus idiots in the house to act likes clowns and try to challenge, but that’s not happening in the senate.

Good point. Maybe The Hill just wants some clicks?

spurraider21
12-16-2020, 11:19 AM
Fake news from fake news bot
Weird way to refer to your own thread

hater
12-16-2020, 11:20 AM
Weird way to refer to your own thread

I was referring to you fake news bot

I posted an interesting article from The Hill. That triggered you to make up fake news.

lefty
12-16-2020, 11:21 AM
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Will Hunting
12-16-2020, 12:05 PM
Good point. Maybe The Hill just wants some clicks?
Yeah that’s probably a safer bet :lol

DMX7
12-16-2020, 12:55 PM
Mitch has said he's not going along with that... It's over.

boutons_deux
12-16-2020, 01:42 PM
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/530306-no-biden-hasnt-won-yet-one-more-nightmare-scenario

Moscow Mitch is publicly telling his Senate mafiya not to challenge.

Kock Bros sucker Ron Johnson and TX shitbag Cruz are two, at least, wildcards

pgardn
12-16-2020, 09:05 PM
Good point. Maybe The Hill just wants some clicks?

What does RT news say... you know, the real news?