Game Thread: 2020 Preseason Game 3: Spurs at Rockets 7 PM CST (20:00 EST, 03:00 RIGA TIME)

[313]

Such genius to bring back both LMA and Poetl when the best big is probably Eubanks :lol:lol

[timtonymanu]

How did we manage to get some of the biggest dead weight veterans I've ever seen? Demar, LMA, Rudy, Patty - all of them are trash on the court. And all overpaid as hell, no less.

[itzsoweezee]

I really overestimated this team. They might actually be bad enough that Popovich gives up hope for the playoffs and finally accepts that it's time to rebuild.

Just let the young guys play and stop making we watch these washed up vets. At least that wouldn't be as boring as this shit.

[timvp]

Took Pop until the last quarter of preseason to try DeRozan at PF again. Interesting.

[Mugen]

PATFO: "It's all about the youth movement"
Also PATFO: Let's make sure to bring back these 4 chucking vets to stunt their growth :lol

[Leetonidas]

It wasn't directed towards you. I've seen you post. You're more sensible than many others here.

If I was a homer all the time, what the fuck have I been posting these past few pages? I've been criticizing several of our players tonight.

But no, you catch the one where I defend Murray. Anyone with eyes should see that he isn't the main problem tonight. What the fuck are you watching?

Ah, I should stop. I tried to resist. SAGirl might complain about me again because I'm not letting y'all have your raw emotion lmao

:lol this is how game threads are man. It goes back and forth from "fuck this sorry team" to "fuck yeah Spurs!!" within a few pages most games.

I guess man. I just feel like I've seen you post homerish takes before but tbh i could be mistaken :lol but yeah my bad, assumed that was pointed at me. I used to be a big Murray guy too but I just can't anymore

[jbspurs]

The Spurs Vets should feel embarrassed that they get outplayed by a rookie BADLY.

Next game, they're are not going to share the ball to Vassell so they don't get outplayed.

[itzsoweezee]

Why are Derozan and Mills still in this game? What will it take for pop to bench the vets. This is fucking dumb

[EasyMoney]

Drew Eubanks is a better post player than jakob

[Joseph Kony]

:lol youth movement my ass. get ready to watch lots of offense featuring DD/LMA/Gay iso/post ups boys

[Mugen]

Lonnie hates basketball so much :lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

Alright, so this is Vassell's team now. Lmao

[RD2191]

Spurms are trash :lol

[timvp]

Vassell has run more pick-and-rolls in the preseason than he did in his two years at Florida State. (Literally, I think.)

[Joseph Kony]

:lol this is how game threads are man. It goes back and forth from "fuck this sorry team" to "fuck yeah Spurs!!" within a few pages most games.

I guess man. I just feel like I've seen you post homerish takes before but tbh i could be mistaken :lol but yeah my bad, assumed that was pointed at me. I used to be a big Murray guy too but I just can't anymore

i was gonna say maybe it was because he took TheDrewShow's avatar but he was the complete opposite of a homer :lol

RIP to that dude

[itzsoweezee]

PATFO: "It's all about the youth movement"
Also PATFO: Let's make sure to bring back these 4 chucking vets to stunt their growth :lol

It's all about the "culture" lmao. I don't know what culture Gay, Derozan, and Aldridge have to impart on anyone. These guys are not anyone you should be modeling your game/professionalism after

[BillMc]

Everytime I watch Drew he looks better than Jakob. Certainly for the money...

[timvp]

Lonnie with the non-help on that drive. Toooough night for dude.

[RC_Drunkford]

Drew Eubanks is a better post player than jakob

I am a better post player than Jakob. And a better shooter. But somehow he's worth 27 million

[tim_duncan_fan]

PATFO: "It's all about the youth movement"
Also PATFO: Let's make sure to bring back these 4 chucking vets to stunt their growth :lol

It's not the vets! The vets are all begging Lonnie and DJ to do something. Lonnie and DJ just can't.

We are in so much trouble.

[EasyMoney]

Lonnie. Please get greedy. Holy shit...

[RC_Drunkford]

It's all about the "culture" lmao. I don't know what culture Gay, Derozan, and Aldridge have to impart on anyone. These guys are not anyone you should be modeling your game/professionalism after

it's about the culture of losing

[BillMc]

Lonnie hates basketball so much :lol

Yep.

[timvp]

I am a better post player than Jakob. And a better shooter. But somehow he's worth 27 million

https://i.imgur.com/rB4Hux7.gif

[GB20]

When is keldon supposed to be back?

[timtonymanu]

It's all about the "culture" lmao. I don't know what culture Gay, Derozan, and Aldridge have to impart on anyone. These guys are not anyone you should be modeling your game/professionalism after

The "culture" stuff is just nonsense. :lol More like bad contracts they got stuck with so they have to convince themselves they can make it work.

[ace3g]

Nice PnR between Eubanks and Vassell

[RC_Drunkford]

https://i.imgur.com/rB4Hux7.gif

it's not hard sniff VP. Everybody with a hook shot is better in the post than Jakob. See Drew Eubanks

[TimDunkem]

Gay/DD sucked like 5 years ago. Why did the Spurs think they would be good together now?

[RC_Drunkford]

might as well start Demarre Carroll if this is the youth movement

[tholdren]

Derozan still easily the best player on spurs

[Chomag]

I can get behind those that are saying that they see some Pippen in Vessel

[313]

It’s amazing that no one has been able to convince Derozen to implement the 3 point shot into his game. Even if he can’t hit it at a respectable clip, he should be shooting 4-5 a game.

I can’t think of another player of Derozen’s stature that hasn’t adapted to the times, even Rondo shoots them now. Embarrassing.

Nephew deserves most the blame, but PATFO did everything wrong that they could do wrong with that trade. They should’ve done what Houston is doing right now. But who knows, maybe Houston is only handling the Harden situation so well because they saw how bad SA got shafted. That’s what SA is at this point. Poster boy for what not to do when your star tries to force your way out.

OT: Vassell is going to be top 5 from the 2020 draft.

[Mugen]

I wonder how much extra money Derrick earned after these 3 preseason games? Probably an extra 20mil right?

[Dejounte]

there is no main problem. This entire team has so many problems and needs improvements in so many areas that every one of them counts

I don't disagree that there are a lot of problems.

If we're talking exclusively about tonight, then we have to be real:

-LMA being a defensive liability
-Lyles giving absolutely nothing when he's on the court
-Lonnie playing extremely passive (he had one great pass then he disappeared)

Were all bigger issues ***tonight*** than DJ

Also, I just don't believe the team can be properly evaluated without White and Keldon

Clippers are 0-2, are they going to miss the playoffs? As bad as the Spurs have been, it is still just preseason.

[rankingtear]

What is Lonnie doing? Does he know he is in a battle for minutes with Vassell? Cut rebound move drive wtf?

[timtonymanu]

Gay/DD sucked like 5 years ago. Why did the Spurs think they would be good together now?

That idiot Brian Wright apparently. Gay was such a piece of shit, the Grizzlies traded him for a washed up Tayshaun Prince and got instantly better.

[EasyMoney]

Vassell could be a legit contender for rookie of the year if he got starter minutes

[itzsoweezee]

Derozan still easily the best player on spurs

I think you misspelled Vassell

[Floyd Pacquiao]

When all are healthy the SL should be White/Vassell/Keldon/DeRozan/Aldridge. Murray/Patty/Lonnie/Gay/Jak off the bench

[ginobilized]

Hmmmm...I thought Houston was supposed to be bad.
If true, the Spurs may face a long, dark road ahead.
I guess that's why the games are played.

On a positive note, Vassell looks like he knows how to play basketball.

[r0drig0lac]

This preseason has also given me some doubts about the cash we gave Jakob

this was obviously wrong since the day it happened, anything over 6MI/year was too much for this mediocre role player

[RC_Drunkford]

Vassell is already miles better than Walker and Murray

[timvp]

it's not hard sniff VP. Everybody with a hook shot is better in the post than Jakob. See Drew Eubanks

Did you think I was disagreeing with you, bru?

[313]

#TankForCade
#TankForGreen

Trade LA and Derozen for nothing at this point.

[EasyMoney]

Lonnie Walker

23 minutes
0 points
0 rebounds
1 assist
0/2

Pathetic.

[RC_Drunkford]

When all are healthy the SL should be White/Vassell/Keldon/DeRozan/Aldridge. Murray/Patty/Lonnie/Gay/Jak off the bench

this

[TimDunkem]

I think you misspelled Vassell
You're talking to someone who claims no one in the NBA has any skill because he was a HS basketball star before the 3pt line who, now as a 60+ year old man, says he goes to maskless RAVES because COVID is the flu. You're not dealing with a sane human being with th:lolldren

[RC_Drunkford]

Did you think I was disagreeing with you, bru?

I have no idea :lol

[timvp]

Devin Jordan.

[paperboy77]

Got a really good one in DV. That dude's gonna surpass all these guys that have been training to be great.

[Mugen]

Jakob has been fine when he gets starter minutes. That's been the most consistent thing about him the last 2 seasons. The problem is this retarded FO decided to bring him back while still keeping fat ass Lamarcus.

[tholdren]

Vassell is already miles better than Walker and Murray

So was forbes

[BillMc]

Lonnie Walker

23 minutes
0 points
0 rebounds
1 assist
0/2

Pathetic.

But at least his defense ...oh wait....

[TimDunkem]

^^Tell us more about the raves you went to today, th:lolldren :lol

[Robz4000]

OT: Vassell is going to be top 5 from the 2020 draft.

Shit, he might be the best player when its all said and done.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Lonnie to be successful needs to focus on molding his game after klay thompson instead of drew holiday. he has the tools to be a poor mans klay.

[timtonymanu]

Can we make sure Vassell doesn't have an unknown piece of shit uncle out there to poison his mind?

[313]

What is Lonnie doing? Does he know he is in a battle for minutes with Vassell? Cut rebound move drive wtf?
Seems like he’s not engaged unless he’s asked to score 1 on 1. Very limiting as a prospect. Expanding as an off ball player is tough, because that usually is all instinct, and feel for the game. You have it or you don’t.

[timvp]

I have no idea :lol

Oof.

[EasyMoney]

Lonnie gets the ball looks like he was about to make a move. But nope, pass out and pretend to look engaged. Please do something, Lonnie. Dejounte is trying. Devin is trying...

[Mugen]

timvp if Lonnie doesn't get an F- for this game...

[hombre]

Spurs play slow AF.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't disagree that there are a lot of problems.

If we're talking exclusively about tonight, then we have to be real:

-LMA being a defensive liability
-Lyles giving absolutely nothing when he's on the court
-Lonnie playing extremely passive (he had one great pass then he disappeared)

Were all bigger issues ***tonight*** than DJ

Also, I just don't believe the team can be properly evaluated without White and Keldon

Clippers are 0-2, are they going to miss the playoffs? As bad as the Spurs have been, it is still just preseason.

it's more than that.

-3 point shooting in general will be super up and down cause we only have 2 consistent shooters in Mills and Vassell
- starting PF has been an inssue for 3 years, they need a mobile 3-and-D PF with shotblocking ability a la Jeramie Grant to make this work
- BBall IQ in general is super low on this team. A lot of very stupid players with tunnel vision who don't know how to pass
- Walker being bad
- Murray not being able to run point or finish in traffic
- Poeltl not being able to score on smaller players
- FIBA Patty will frustrate a lot of us by jacking up a bunch of bad shots cause he thinks he has to score 30
- Defense in general is garbage when you start 2 defensive liabilities at the forward positions. You can't do that in the NBA
- Line ups cause of coach Flopovich

I could go on and on

[itzsoweezee]

Lonnie gets the ball looks like he was about to make a move. But nope, pass out and pretend to look engaged. Please do something, Lonnie. Dejounte is trying. Devin is trying...

Dude is shook. Popovich mindgames destroyed his ego

[timtonymanu]

timvp if Lonnie doesn't get an F- for this game...

How does Lonnie get an F when Brent and Beli were playing ahead of him? Oh wait. :lol

[EasyMoney]

Now he takes out vassell and dejounte for trey and patty? What the hell, man.

[GAustex]

Basketball acumen escapes Lonnie

[Chomag]

Why is Mills coming back in? this Would be a good time to get Tre some more burn at least

[Mugen]

:lol I swear to god if the Spurs cover this game....

[tholdren]

Basketball acumen escapes Lonnie

Spurstalk says they drafted him for athletic ability not skill

[Mugen]

@ Lonnie refusing to help on two point blank layups

[BillMc]

Has Tre played?

[TimDunkem]

Why is Mills coming back in? this Would be a good time to get Tre some more burn at least
Can we get this over with and acknowledge now that Tre will be glued to the bench this season? We know how Pop works

[EasyMoney]

Drew has been more active than Jakob

[GB20]

Everybody is abusing Mill tonight.

[BackHome]

We Tanking just sit back and enjoy the ride. :lma

[tholdren]

LaMarcus will get traded, hopefully

[TimDunkem]

^What does Randy have to say about it? :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Jakob Poeltl 2 PTS 3 RB -4
LaMarcus Aldridge 6 PTS 5 RB -26

Drew Eubanks 9 PTS 3 RB +12

[GAustex]

It will be like Hooisers
Break em down and then build them up
Time the peak

[Dejounte]

it's more than that.

-3 point shooting in general will be super up and down cause we only have 2 consistent shooters in Mills and Vassell
- starting PF has been an inssue for 3 years, they need a mobile 3-and-D PF with shotblocking ability a la Jeramie Grant to make this work
- BBall IQ in general is super low on this team. A lot of very stupid players with tunnel vision who don't know how to pass
- Walker being bad
- Murray not being able to run point or finish in traffic
- Poeltl not being able to score on smaller players
- FIBA Patty will frustrate a lot of us by jacking up a bunch of bad shots cause he thinks he has to score 30
- Defense in general is garbage when you start 2 defensive liabilities at the forward positions. You can't do that in the NBA
- Line ups cause of coach Flopovich

I could go on and on

You're still talking about the team in general, man. Again, I'm just talking about tonight lol.

And a lot of your points I covered already.

You said starting PF is bad, I said Aldridge and Lyles are bad
You said Walker is bad, I said Walker is bad
You said forward defense is bad in general, I basically said that by saying Aldridge is a liability on defense and Lyles too

These aren't points you are adding lol

I do agree about Mills. Always will have.

Also, what line-ups would you prefer?

Vassell taking Lonnie's starting spot? We still have to see what Lonnie can give...
DeMar coming off the bench? Lol
DeMar at PF? I won't be surprised if we see that more. We had him there some tonight.

[313]

Shit, he might be the best player when its all said and done.Hes looking like the other Devin in Phoenix. Had similar college numbers as Book too.

[Chomag]

Best thing we have gotten out of the preseason so far is that Vessel is a legit NBA player

[stephen jackson]

Hate this fuckin team somehow it’s still old af and ancient

[313]

Jakob Poeltl 2 PTS 3 RB -4
LaMarcus Aldridge 6 PTS 5 RB -26

Drew Eubanks 9 PTS 3 RB +12
Eubanks getting demolished on defense.

The roster stinks.

#TankForCade

[spurraider21]

Keldon/Vassell are going to be a nice wing duo

[Darius Bieber]

Even though pre-season means nothing (Detroit Lions went 3-0 in NFL preseason prior to their historic 0-16 season), it’s worrisome how horrible we look as a cohesive unit.

[TimDunkem]

Eubanks getting demolished on defense.

The roster stinks.

#TankForCade
:lmao Thomas posterizes Lyles AND Ewwbanks.

[Robz4000]

Hes looking like the other Devin in Phoenix. Had similar college numbers as Book too.

Apparently the Spurs had been watching him for two years now, and drafting is the only thing PATFO are still good at.

[RC_Drunkford]

You're still talking about the team in general, man. Again, I'm just talking about tonight lol.

And a lot of your points I covered already.

You said starting PF is bad, I said Aldridge and Lyles are bad
You said Walker is bad, I said Walker is bad
You said forward defense is bad in general, I basically said that by saying Aldridge is a liability on defense and Lyles too

These aren't points you are adding lol

I do agree about Mills. Always will have.

Also, what line-ups would you prefer?

Vassell taking Lonnie's starting spot? We still have to see what Lonnie can give...
DeMar coming off the bench? Lol
DeMar at PF? I won't be surprised if we see that more. We had him there some tonight.

Aldridge is not a forward he's playing Center. If you want to start Aldridge as Center you better put a PF on the floor who can hide his deficiencies, so you need a shotblocker. There's no way you're winning games by starting DeRozan and Gay. Gay is as slow footed as LMA.

Starters should clearly be White/Vassell/Johnson/DeRozan/Aldridge. Vassell is a better shooter and offball player than Walker. DeRozan at PF because Lyles and Gay are garbage and can't do anything better on defense than DeMar. So you might as well slide DeMar to PF and have a defender at SF out there in Keldon Johnson. That would also give you a lot of mismatches on offense and the team could really run in transition. Of course Pop won't do none of that

[Robz4000]

This would definitely be the season for the Spurs to tank hard so hopefully this level of play (or lack thereof) translates into the regular season.

[Dejounte]

One of our highest paid players had 6 points and 5 rebounds tonight. LMA is a joke. The NBA has passed him by.

[Chomag]

Lyle's :rollin

[TimDunkem]

Apparently the Spurs had been watching him for two years now, and drafting is the only thing PATFO are still good at.
Just ignore the whole Puka, Lonnie, and DJM thing

[RC_Drunkford]

LMA is the only player on the entire team who has blocked shots. 3. The rest of the team has 0

[murpjf88]

Eubanks and Lyles are hot garbage. Spurs gifting those two NBA contracts.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Even though pre-season means nothing (Detroit Lions went 3-0 in NFL preseason prior to their historic 0-16 season), it’s worrisome how horrible we look as a cohesive unit.

That's the thing, innit?

Yo, I am going to have to clown this team to keep from crying unless Derrick, Keldon, and Devin manage to save us.

I apologize in advance for toxicity this year.

[TimDunkem]

Eubanks and Lyles are hot garbage. Spurs gifting those two NBA contracts.
Spurs are the NBA Make-A-Wish team at this point. Just get on Pop's good side and you're in for life.

[Robz4000]

Just ignore the whole Puka, Lonnie, and DJM thing

Lonnie is still a solid gamble for where he was at, and Murray was the 30th pick tbh. Agree on Sammich though.

[RC_Drunkford]

Can't wait to lose by 40 against the Grizzlies

[TimDunkem]

Lonnie is still a solid gamble for where he was at, and Murray was the 30th pick tbh. Agree on Sammich though.
Brogdon, tbh.

[Dejounte]

Aldridge is not a forward he's playing Center. If you want to start Aldridge as Center you better put a PF on the floor who can hide his deficiencies, so you need a shotblocker. There's no way you're winning games by starting DeRozan and Gay. Gay is as slow footed as LMA.

Starters should clearly be White/Vassell/Johnson/DeRozan/Aldridge. Vassell is a better shooter and offball player than Walker. DeRozan at PF because Lyles and Gay are garbage and can't do anything better on defense than DeMar. So you might as well slide DeMar to PF and have a defender at SF out there in Keldon Johnson. That would also give you a lot of mismatches on offense and the team could really run in transition. Of course Pop won't do none of that

Aldridge being a forward or center is just arguing semantics. He's still part of that core that makes up our bigs. And we both agree him and whoever we have manning the bigs spots are terrible.

Off of three preseason games why do you believe he won't do that? He's already played Vassell more minutes than any rookie probably ever. Hoping Vassell would be a starter during the preseason was just unrealistic because like I said, we still have to see what Lonnie can do... Which, be honest, you were on his bandwagon and wanted to see if he can contribute more this season.

I don't think we are far off from DeMar being at PF. We saw it some tonight.

Your other criticisms are fine, I just don't think the rotations being one is valid.

[murpjf88]

Spurs are the NBA Make-A-Wish team at this point. Just get on Pop's good side and you're in for life.

The sad thing is Pop hasn't been relevant for at least the past 5 years.

[Robz4000]

Brogdon, tbh.

At the time most were happy with Murray over Brogdon because he had much better athleticism. Unfortunately Murray hasn't developed the IQ and skill people hoped he would (which was a longshot anyway).

[8sy21vd]

The Spurs are right there with the Knicks for worst run team in the NBA the last five years which has taken its toll season by season. The roster construction and rotations have been pitiful as most Spurs fans have pointed out. The season could get ugly fast especially if White is out for an extended time period. Even with him, it's hard to see the team playing winning ball given the roster and minute configurations.

[GAustex]

Careful
Sniffers will attack

[murpjf88]

At the time most were happy with Murray over Brogdon because he had much better athleticism. Unfortunately Murray hasn't developed the IQ and skill people hoped he would (which was a longshot anyway).

It was mostly Spur homerism. His ceiling was always back up pg.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339771913590235138?s=19

[RC_Drunkford]

Aldridge being a forward or center is just arguing semantics. He's still part of that core that makes up our bigs. And we both agree him and whoever we have manning the bigs spots are terrible.

Off of three preseason games why do you believe he won't do that? He's already played Vassell more minutes than any rookie probably ever. Hoping Vassell would be a starter during the preseason was just unrealistic because like I said, we still have to see what Lonnie can do... Which, be honest, you were on his bandwagon and wanted to see if he can contribute more this season.

I don't think we are far off from DeMar being at PF. We saw it some tonight.

Your other criticisms are fine, I just don't think the rotations being one is valid.

Because I know Pop. When everybody's healthy White and Murray will start. Maybe he starts DeRozan at PF at some point, but it will take about 20 games, which means we will lose a lot of games in the beginning. This is how Pop coaches.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1339772324594282496?s=19

[BillMc]

Bill's Concern O' Meter

Murray: NBA player, can't run an offense. Should be on a bench somewhere.

Lonnie: NBA athlete, doesn't seem to know how or really want to play. Will soon get passed up by a rookie.

Luka: NBA athlete (maybe). See Lonnie but worse.

Jakob: I'm a starter. No, wait, no I'm not.

Trey: Year 2, I'm done (as everywhere)

[tim_duncan_fan]

What could we realistically get for Lonnie in a trade?

I'm kind of done on him. He's at best going to be a one-way player and his one way, offense, won't ever be there consistently because he has less self-confidence on a daily basis than Verde does after a bad shooting night.




Trey: Year 2, I'm done (as everywhere)

You saying he'll be out the League?

[RC_Drunkford]

At the time most were happy with Murray over Brogdon because he had much better athleticism. Unfortunately Murray hasn't developed the IQ and skill people hoped he would (which was a longshot anyway).

I always wanted Brogdon

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1339768959361576965?s=19

[TimDunkem]

I always wanted Brogdon
Same. Something about an NBA ready guy who wanted to play for the Spurs was always more appealing than a low IQ stick figure with no handles or jumper. Same way I felt last year with Clarke (and others) over Puka Sammich.

I liked Murray's athleticism, but it was obvious he wouldn't be able to make use of it due to how weak he was physically and when attacking the rim.

[Dejounte]

What could we realistically get for Lonnie in a trade?

I'm kind of done on him. He's at best going to be a one-way player and his one way, offense, won't ever be there consistently because he has less self-confidence on a daily basis than Verde does after a bad shooting night.

It's just preseason and I still have some hope for him but what he's shown so far is that he's not much more than Jonathon Simmons or Gerald Green

[The_Worlds_finest]

Everybody is abusing Mill tonight.

Haha the theme of this season

[GAustex]

Had no idea the Rockets are better without Cousins and Wall

[BillMc]

W


You saying he'll be out the League?

No, but he drops off in the 2nd year wherever he goes. or so I recall

[BillMc]

Did Lonnie have the ball alot in high school and college? He looks lost off ball sometimes.

If there was one thing Marco could have been worth signing these last years, is he could have shown Lonnie had to move without the ball. Sadly, it looks like Marco just imparted his defensive mindset to Lonnie.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's just preseason and I still have some hope for him but what he's shown so far is that he's not much more than Jonothan Simmons or Gerald Green

The thing is that he has to work ALOT to get to where Simmons was. And he can't play defense or rebound at all. Also can't dribble (though he has better handles than DJ).

He's not really good at anything besides hitting an open 3. Maybe he's Kerr?

Him being a Kerr wouldn't be bad. Right now though, it just looks like he isn't good at this game.

Maybe he should have run track?

[BackHome]

I turning the game off and looking at 2021 NBA Mock Draft :toast

[RC_Drunkford]

Did Lonnie have the ball alot in high school and college? He looks lost off ball sometimes.

If there was one thing Marco could have been worth signing these last years, is he could have shown Lonnie had to move without the ball. Sadly, it looks like Marco just imparted his defensive mindset to Lonnie.

Lonnie had the ball a lot in the G-League. Kind of like DeRozan. They played him as the go-to-guy which was also the role he had when he destroyed everybody in summer league. He is not an offball player. Which is why he should come off the bench, so he can develop into a 6th man. Let him run the pick & roll and look for his shot or kick it out to guys like Patty. For the starters, they been used to playing with an offball shooter at SG, like Forbes and Danny Green, so Vassell makes more sense to be the starting SG.

[Dejounte]

The thing is that he has to work ALOT to get to where Simmons was. And he can't play defense or rebound at all. Also can't dribble (though he has better handles than DJ).

He's not really good at anything besides hitting an open 3. Maybe he's Kerr?

Him being a Kerr wouldn't be bad. Right now though, it just looks like he isn't good at this game.

Maybe he should have run track?

We don't need Lonnie to rebound

Defense? He can play it. Remember that one time Pop screamed at Lonnie for shying away from guarding Kawhi? Dude just wilts. He's lacking the necessary mental toughness.

He can drive.

He can pass, he has great vision.

The problem is he is not FEARLESS. It's all mental with him.

[BillMc]

Lonnie had the ball a lot in the G-League. Kind of like DeRozan. They played him as the go-to-guy which was also the role he had when he destroyed everybody in summer league. He is not an offball player. Which is why he should come off the bench, so he can develop into a 6th man. Let him run the pick & roll and look for his shot or kick it out to guys like Patty. For the starters, they been used to playing with an offball shooter at SG, like Forbes and Danny Green, so Vassell makes more sense to be the starting SG.
Good summary. Never watched g-league or summer league. Thanks. :toast

[RC_Drunkford]

Good summary. Never watched g-league or summer league. Thanks. :toast

Watch this and you'll know what I mean. He has to play in a line up where he is the first option. Scoring on bench players should be easy for him and that way his playmaking ability can shine as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339777984920743936?s=19

I think people forget how much toughness Keldon added to the team as a whole

[Sugus]

...is it over? Are we safe now? What an absolute showing of a game :lmao

[Degoat]

Devin vassell has put all of the youngins on notice lol there shouldn’t be this much inconsistency between games for Lonnie & DJ, they gotta figure it out.

[BillMc]

Watch this and you'll know what I mean. He has to play in a line up where he is the first option. Scoring on bench players should be easy for him and that way his playmaking ability can shine as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI

It's summer league of course, but he looks like a completely different player.

[Atl Spur]

Well.........Lonnie will need to be more assertive moving forward. A lot of timid & old dudes out there!

[BillMc]

Devin vassell has put all of the youngins on notice lol there shouldn’t be this much inconsistency between games for Lonnie & DJ, they gotta figure it out.

I just want to see Keldon and Devin on the court at the same time.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339780796937351170?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1339779643478564864?s=19

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339780796937351170?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1339779643478564864?s=19

Hopefully going 0-3 in preseason can add a sense of urgency to the team's defense :downspin:

[RC_Drunkford]

It's summer league of course, but he looks like a completely different player.

the thing is this is from 1 1/2 years ago. He should be able to do this against NBA benches by now

[spurraider21]

Watch this and you'll know what I mean. He has to play in a line up where he is the first option. Scoring on bench players should be easy for him and that way his playmaking ability can shine as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI
i wasnt that impressed with that game. a lot of midrange pullups... not something thats going to have big league success

[murpjf88]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1339779643478564864?s=19

DeRozan should take his own advice because he's one of the team's biggest offenders on defense.

[spurs10]

I just want to see Keldon and Devin on the court at the same time. Seeing either on the court will be a good thing that's for sure. Tonight was a shellacking...they are missed.

[Chinook]

I'm really disgusted. Like I really like that Pop likes Vassell. He might even play him. But how did Walker play 29 minutes and only use four possessions? His fellow starters used 68 possessions in a combined 115 minutes. That's not a sustainable pace for the starters of a balanced team. I think it's possible that the rotation's just passed Walker by, but I really don't like Gay starting, and I think almost all of Murray's non-garbage buckets should be removed from his game. His efficiency was mediocre, but if you just look at the shots he tried to create himself, it's probably horrible. I'm really worried at this point that Pop will once again show he doesn't have the pulse of the team, won't play optimal rotations and won't get the best out of the guys who do play. Aldridge doesn't look like he cares. Gay's overhelping on defense. Walker looks like he's on skates and probably wants a trade. Murray's Murray. Honestly, DeRozan was mostly good. Mills was too aggressive. Lyles seems to be in second-year form again. Poeltl didn't do much wrong but didn't impact the court either.

Top three: DeMar, Vassell, Gay

Bottom Three: Pop, Aldridge, Walker

We'll see what happens when guys come back. Starting Gay just can't be a thing at this point unless DeRozan or Murray is traded. Sucks that Lyles doesn't look to be a starter right now, but the team can't take that rotation in the long run. Pop can't manage minutes well enough to spread out the scoring over 48 minutes unless he starts guys on the bench.

[phxspurfan]

i wasnt that impressed with that game. a lot of midrange pullups... not something thats going to have big league success

:pop: Forbes, Mills and Beli deserved all his minutes. He could have developed more in practice.

[spurraider21]

id much rather see lonnie model his game after a guy like Oladipo. he has the talent and athletic ability.

[ace3g]

CI7MGyKoEby

[mystargtr34]

After watching tonights debacle and the pre season as a whole i think you have to role like this;

White/DJM
Vassell/Mills
DeRozan/Walker
Johnson/Gay
LMA/Poeltl

9 man rotation with Lonnie getting spot minutes if you need the 10th guy. I don't think you can start DJM next to DeRozan, 2 non-shooting ball handlers makes things clogged. More likely scenario is Gay starts at the 4 and DJM at the 1 with Johnson and Vassell off the bench coming in at the 6 minute mark of the 1st with the team down 6-8 every game.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/dZPTZxuE2aw

[mystargtr34]

BTW with the above in mind i am not that concerned with the pre season because of the following;

- Missing the best player (White).
- Missing another top 5 player in Keldon and the most energetic guy on a low energy team.
- We look like we have something special in Vassell.

Just the third point alone makes this pre season a success tbh :lol

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339780796937351170?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1339779643478564864?s=19

:lol Asking “D”eRozan that question

[mystargtr34]

White, Vassell, DeRozan, Johnson, LMA will be interesting to watch.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1339787134895570944?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1339787780696752128?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1339786669302685697?s=19

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1339788471855181824?s=19

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1339779643478564864?s=19

Asked Poeltl how the Spurs can improve their free throw shooting.

He said rhythm, consistent follow-thru, and a sense of confidence are key.





Asked a homeless man how the Spurs can improve monetarily.

He said saving, investing, and keeping expenses low are key.




Asked Ducks how I could improve my spelling.

He said practise, repetetion, and the election was stolen are key.

[Dejounte]

Once we have Keldon back to add toughness, we need another guy - preferably a big - who can be a bully and adds some nasty. Someone like Marcus Morris...

[rastaspur]

Asked Poeltl how the Spurs can improve their free throw shooting.

He said rhythm, consistent follow-thru, and a sense of confidence are key.





Asked a homeless man how the Spurs can improve monetarily.

He said saving, investing, and keeping expenses low are key.




Asked Ducks how I could improve my spelling.

He said practise, repetetion, and the election was stolen are key.

:lol

Nice dunk on ducks.

[r0drig0lac]

Once we have Keldon back to add toughness, we need another guy - preferably a big - who can be a bully and adds some nasty. Someone like Marcus Morris...

Randle

[PhantomDashCam]

How after the Spurs (relative) success in the bubble and supposed continuation into the off season of said developments, playing style etc; do we trot out the antithesis of such through 3 pre season games?

The biggest development is the ascension of Devin Vassell to an NBA ready player. This probably doesn’t occur without the injuries to
Keldon and White.

LA is the biggest problem on this team right now. Clearly the trade talk has affected his play.

[Dejounte]

How after the Spurs (relative) success in the bubble and supposed continuation into the off season of said developments, playing style etc; do we trot out the antithesis of such through 3 pre season games?

The biggest development is the ascension of Devin Vassell to an NBA ready player already. This probably doesn’t occur without the injuries to
Keldon and White.

LA is the biggest problem on this team right now. Clearly the trade talk has affected his play.

Because Keldon and White were the two major reasons for the success in the bubble. That team played with grit that this preseason team didn't have. Their absence is a great thing to expedite Vassell's development. Actually couldn't have happened at a better time ...

[poopbox]

How after the Spurs (relative) success in the bubble and supposed continuation into the off season of said developments, playing style etc; do we trot out the antithesis of such through 3 pre season games?

The biggest development is the ascension of Devin Vassell to an NBA ready player already. This probably doesn’t occur without the injuries to
Keldon and White.

LA is the biggest problem on this team right now. Clearly the trade talk has affected his play.

Because two of the main reasons we were successful in the bubble is because LMA and Lyles didn't play

[PhantomDashCam]

Because Keldon and White were the two major reasons for the success in the bubble. That team played with grit that this preseason team didn't have. Their absence is a great thing to expedite Vassell's development. Actually couldn't have happened at a better time ...

For Vassell, yes.
For the long term outlook of the Spurs, maybe.

There are still lineups available to the Spurs that can somewhat mitigate the lulls Offensively this team is experiencing.
DDR, LA, Gay, DJ all need the ball to be effective.
All four can’t start.

Starters need to be : DJ, Lonnie, DDR, Lyles and Poeltl.

You stagger the Rotations with DJ, Poeltl and Lonnie coming out at the 5 - 6 min mark for Patty, Vassell and LA.

At the 2 min mark to End of the 1st: Gay and DJ come in for Lyles and DDR.

Now that’s just an example of a quarter. You can fluctuate a little depending on who’s hot, matchups etc but these lineups have skillsets that compliment each other. Hoping we get to see something like this in the reg. season as it does have some bubble potential while White and KJ are injured.

[r0drig0lac]

Vassell (as Keldon) never needed games to be ready, he was ready from the day he signed the contract, the only difference is that he had the opportunity to show the world, so now, when/if he can't get regular minutes the usual posters won't be able to pretend it's not Pop's fault.

[rankingtear]

Vassell (as Keldon) never needed games to be ready, he was ready from the day he signed the contract, the only difference is that he had the opportunity to show the world, so now, when/if he can't get regular minutes the usual posters won't be able to pretend it's not Pop's fault.

Vassell was ready the day he was born , youre underrating Vassell here, the day he signed the contract? cmon man. Youre right on Keldon those 3pt percentage stats from the g league was hacked by spurms pop sniffers everybody knows Keldon could've shot 60% from three from day one in the NBA, all this talk of the spurms fixing his shot during his g league stint are from conspiracy theorist making stuff up on the interweb. Pop is poop.

[r0drig0lac]

Vassell was ready the day he was born , youre underrating Vassell here, the day he signed the contract? cmon man. Youre right on Keldon those 3pt percentage stats from the g league was hacked by spurms pop sniffers everybody knows Keldon could've shot 60% from three from day one in the NBA, all this talk of the spurms fixing his shot during his g league stint are from conspiracy theorist making stuff up on the interweb. Pop is poop.

you need a pat on the back or the cycle is not complete (some adults really need strangers agreeing with their irony-covered opinions on an anonymous forum), and although I ignore your opinion, you are probably right, these 3 games in 6 days were what definitely prepared and took Vassell to the level of game presented... in the first game...genius

[Dejounte]

you need a pat on the back or the cycle is not complete (some adults really need strangers agreeing with their irony-covered opinions on an anonymous forum), and although I ignore your opinion, you are probably right, these 3 games in 6 days were what definitely prepared and took Vassell to the level of game presented... in the first game...genius

I think you missed his sarcasm. Ranking doesn't post like that, or at least I don't think he does.

[r0drig0lac]

I think you missed his sarcasm. Ranking doesn't post like that, or at least I don't think he does.

probably,
this team is really pissing me off....well...Derricks's health is irritating me, even Keldon, who I think is an iron man is losing games.

[Dejounte]

probably,
this team is really pissing me off....well...Derricks's health is irritating me, even Keldon, who I think is an iron man is losing games.

Take it easy.

The Spurs haven't dug themselves into a hole.

This season can still go either way. It's still too damn early.

And honestly, it's a win-win either way.

On one hand: there will be a strong 2021 draft class.

On the other: if we make the playoffs, then that means one or more of our young players have blown up and became a star.

[Dex]

Take it easy.

The Spurs haven't dug themselves into a hole.

This season can still go either way. It's still too damn early.

And honestly, it's a win-win either way.

On one hand: there will be a strong 2021 draft class.

On the other: if we make the playoffs, then that means one or more of our young players have blown up and became a star.

Agreed, we've seen the Spurs piss away the preseason before and still come out fine. Granted, we had three Hall of Famers back to lean on back then, but it doesn't make sense to overreact to a bunch of warm-up games.

If we still look the same 15 games into the season and once we have everyone back, people can hit the panic button.

[KobesAchilles]

Asked Poeltl how the Spurs can improve their free throw shooting.

He said rhythm, consistent follow-thru, and a sense of confidence are key.






Asked a homeless man how the Spurs can improve monetarily.

He said saving, investing, and keeping expenses low are key.




Asked Ducks how I could improve my spelling.

He said practise, repetetion, and the election was stolen are key.

This is what makes Spurstalk the best :lol

[Ocotillo]

Man, Lonnie is showing why Bryn Forbes was in the starting lineup.

[ismael-robert]

Yep n people think pops an idiot