Game Thread: Spurs vs. Lakers — Jan. 1, 2021 - 7:00pm/C

[KobesAchilles]

But I was told it was so obvious that Poetl has worked hard on his offensive game :lol

9 million a year for a back up center :lol

[tmtcsc]

Spurs’ offense has stagnated. Really ugly right now.

[james evans]

The way Johnson plays, he should be shooting 13 fits a game.

[poopbox]

I mean, I'm glad DDR is hitting threes, but damn what took him this long to become a gunner? Those makes have looked very clean.

Contract year :makemyday

[james evans]

Gay is horrible tonight.

[spurraider21]

eubanks playing well defensively

[Uriel]

I like Eubanks. I think he's playing hard and doing his best.

[Bojo]

Eubanks is playing well for what he is (3rd stringer). He's doing good things on D.

[Uriel]

Wow. Murray shades of Parker :wow

[Dejounte]

LONNIE

DEJOUNTE

LONNIE

DEJOUNTE AGAIN

HYDRA ATTACK BABY
Chinook

[SpurPadre]

They're showing heart out there.

[DAF86]

Another moral victory incoming?

[Kurgan]

Eubanks is playing well for what he is (3rd stringer). He's doing good things on D.

For what he's paid, you can't complain too much. Poeltl makes almost 10 mil a year. No excuse to be shooting 0% from the free throw line.

[CP48107]

I like Eubanks. I think he's playing hard and doing his best. +1

[FkLA]

Poeltl is an elite defensive presence. Focus on what he's there for, not his FTs.

[Dejounte]

KELDON FUCKING JOHNSON!

[Uriel]

Drew fell and he was the one charged with the foul? :lol

[tbdog]

Harrell through Eubanks down and they called it a foul the other way. Lol

[Chomag]

That was a foul? I guess you can no longer establish position against the Lakers

[NASpurs]

Big Body :cry

[Seventyniner]

I would have been okay with a no-call there, but offensive foul on Eubanks? Good lord.

[Robz4000]

Lakerrefs not fucking around again.

[Dejounte]

How can anyone be upset with this team win or lose???

[mystargtr34]

Both Jak and Drew are great on D and even setting screens on O, but they are putrid with the ball in their hands.

[Dejounte]

This is KELDON'S BREAKOUT GAME BABY

I'M HERE FOR IT

[Rummpd]

impressive stuff

[FkLA]

This is KELDON'S BREAKOUT GAME BABY

I'M HERE FOR IT

His coming out of the closet game, imo.

[phxspurfan]

NBA TV interrupting the game to show Wizards highlights...

[Chomag]

Its 5 on 8 but fk it lets get this!!!

[EasyMoney]

Is Jakob gonna play again tonight lol

[DAF86]

Gay at center. Let's see how it goes. I'm not feeling confident, tbh.

[mystargtr34]

This would be a huge W for the young guys confidence and swagger.

[phxspurfan]

damn we needed that 3

[mystargtr34]

Did Lonnie just turn down a wide open layup.

[Kurgan]

White should be closing this game, not Patty.

[Dejounte]

Boneheaded defensive play by DeMar.. even he knew it. Damnit

[DAF86]

Gay at center. Let's see how it goes. I'm not feeling confident, tbh.

David dominating th offensive glass, as expected.

[baseline bum]

Shit, thought this game was in LA since the last one was here and just switched the game on thinking I would catch a few minutes of pregame :lol

[Chomag]

Lmao come on Rudy!

[Kurgan]

Did Lonnie just turn down a wide open layup.

Lonnie can be really low IQ at times, which is why I'm not too high on him.

[Robz4000]

:lol Lakerrefs

[Dejounte]

KELDON DEFENSE ON LEBRON

SHADES OF KAWHI DEFENSE

WOW

WOW

[Dejounte]

ANTHONY DAVIS PULLED THE NET.

[phxspurfan]

This Gay

[DAF86]

Why is Keldon not finishing the game? WTF Pop?

[Chomag]

That was a travel but ok....

[Robz4000]

Shit, thought this game was in LA since the last one was here and just switched the game on thinking I would catch a few minutes of pregame :lol

Missed Keldon Johnson going HAM.

[Chomag]

Wait...why tf did Pop pull Keldon with less then 3 minutes to go!?! He is one of our hot hands

[phxspurfan]

LOL Ant Davis fell like he got taken out by a sniper

[Kurgan]

Why is Keldon not finishing the game? WTF Pop?

He is. Lineup is Patty, White, Keldon, Derozan, Gay

[mystargtr34]

Lonnie can be really low IQ at times, which is why I'm not too high on him.

Yeah unfortunately you can't really teach IQ, so i think that's gonna hold him back from taking that jump. Still has the tools to be a really solid NBA player though.

[DeRozan m8]

On and off the court...Davis is such a fvcking pussy

[Dejounte]

Patty what the fuck

[Chomag]

Patty....

[emanueldavidginobili]

Lonnie needs to be in the game over Patty, ridiculous.

[Mal]

Are Spurs losing this on purpose ?

[james evans]

Lakers are running the same goddamn play all game. Drive in , draw the defense and kick out fir open 3.

[Chomag]

Every time Davis falls over himself its a foul lol

[RD2191]

:lol

[Robz4000]

Murray and DePression scrubbed around and lost the game, what else is new?

[stephen jackson]

Dumb ass pop

[Kurgan]

Patty and Demar unclutch

[Chomag]

Just can't get a basket!

[phxspurfan]

game in full WWE mode now

[FkLA]

Pop is an idiot for taking out big body.

[Leetonidas]

Laker refs in full effect as usual

[r0drig0lac]

Demar...

[DAF86]

That bullshit shot by DeRozan. :lol I'm so fucking done with DeRozan and Aldridge.

[daslicer]

Offensive goal tending by Kuzma and Lebron now getting to run over White. Lakerref in effect.

[Chomag]

Demar doing demar things per par...

[SuperCam]

DeGarbage doing DeGarbage things :tu

[tbdog]

Omg, wtf refs. Could you at least hide it.

[mystargtr34]

Anthony Davis is such a piss weak china doll :lol

You could easily get a Eubanks to crack him with an elbow in the jaw on a rebound early on and he'd be out for the entire game.

[Chomag]

Good lord these refs....

[Robz4000]

Gonna be a long season. Hopefully the Spurs don't fuck around and tank correctly.

[KobesAchilles]

I thought we learned our lesson with the whole let demar miss in crunch time at the end of games shtick

[tbdog]

We deserved that game. Refs just blew the game.

[cjw]

Sucks to lose a game they played this hard. Some bad shot selection down stretch.

[Uriel]

Sad. This was probably the most winnable of our games against the Lakers.

[DAF86]

He is. Lineup is Patty, White, Keldon, Derozan, Gay

He wasn't when I made that comment.

[Rummpd]

Lakers ref win out but nice effort

[808]

So good to have White back regardless

[Dejounte]

Winnable until the end where DeMar called his own name. Selfish play led to the loss. Fuck

DeMar didn't have a bad game. But he did make terrible decisions at the end.

[Chomag]

Welp....dammit but I'm still happy to see our guys fighting out there

[spurraider21]

offense collapsed down the stretch

[4down]

Give the man some support

[phxspurfan]

Keldon gonna get paid

[BillMc]

I really hate AD for some reason

[Barfunk]

And again the refs hand the Lakers the fucking game

[FkLA]

Challenge it...

[Chomag]

Refs and Demar made sure we don't get this win

[SpurPadre]

We deserved that game. Refs just blew the game.

Enough with those excuses. We choked and that's all there is to it. It was good to see Keldon play well, at least.

[lefty20]

Damn, should've had this one. Learning to win close games like this against good teams is part of the learning process for the youngins.

[MannyIsGod]

Good game from the youth. You can't win a game with Rudy Gay and Eubanks playing center against the Lakers. Props on the youth for making it that close.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yes, it was the refs...it had nothing to do with the fact Pop played a midget lineup down the stretch and the Lakers got EVERY rebound

[Kurgan]

Yeah unfortunately you can't really teach IQ, so i think that's gonna hold him back from taking that jump. Still has the tools to be a really solid NBA player though.

I don't really see him as anything more than a role player unfortunately. Just doesn't impact the game much outside of his occasional scoring ability.

[daslicer]

We deserved that game. Refs just blew the game.

Agreed. I'm tired of Lebron getting to run over guys like a running back like he did with White and not get called for it. It's a new dimension of his game the refs have allowed since last year.

[EasyMoney]

Demar called his own number and ended up air balling when someone was wide open. Ah well.

Jakob was complete garbage and got benched for a g leaguer. Didn't even play the 4th

[MannyIsGod]

Also Lyles must really be in the doghouse if he can't get off the bench in this game.

[FkLA]

I mean why not fucking challenge that LeBron committed an offensive foul? What was there to lose?

[offset formation]

Sucks to lose a game they played this hard. Some bad shot selection down stretch.

Yup, pretty atrocious especially from Demar, he should know better.

Also Lakerfan reffing. Those two did us in.

[Mugen]

Team looks good tbh. Just a bunch of young guy mistakes. Would love to see DWhite run the show when he shakes off the rust.

[KayBee]

The Lakers have no business complaining to the refs. Ever. Ridiculous. They’re gifted every call. Always.

[Collins21]

That bullshit shot by DeRozan. :lol I'm so fucking done with DeRozan and Aldridge.

Yeah you will just find some foreign bum to suck off.

[Chomag]

Both LMA DDR have got to be the most anticlutch star players that I think I have ever seen.

[Gibbz]

SA's active bigs Jak and Eubanks combined for 0 points in 43 minutes. Two guys who just inked deals.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Epic hero-balling in the final minutes of the game for the lose.

Nice.

[tbdog]

Winnable until the end where DeMar called his own name. Selfish play led to the loss. Fuck

DeMar didn't have a bad game. But he did make terrible decisions at the end.

He was hit and deserved to go to the line.

[Degoat]

Wish Devin Vassell would have gotten some minutes but I’m happy with the team, Jakob/Eubanks were terrible tonight

[Bynumite]

and back to below .500 they go :lmao

[Kurgan]

Gonna be a long season. Hopefully the Spurs don't fuck around and tank correctly.

As long as we play Aldridge and Derozan big minutes, the tank is guaranteed. Losing is in their blood.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Epic hero-balling in the final minutes of the game for the lose.

Nice.

Yeah wtf went to playing dumb iso ball

[Mugen]

Yes, it was the refs...it had nothing to do with the fact Pop played a midget lineup down the stretch and the Lakers got EVERY rebound

Deadz, what up my man?

Hope 2020 wasn't too bad for you.

Lmk when you're back in LA, got a free helicopter ride coupon for you, good for the whole fam :toast

[offset formation]

Demar called his own number and ended up air balling when someone was wide open. Ah well.

Jakob was complete garbage and got benched for a g leaguer. Didn't even play the 4th

Some will be bitching by next game tho that LMA is taking minutes from Jakob. This board is schizophrenic.

Let it be clear, Jakob got benched for piss poor play. LMA was injured. Eubanks got crunching minutes.

[KobesAchilles]

When does Poetl's contract end? Dude is such a scrub offensively (and completely useless against good teams) that he is impossible to play.
Also can we just trade Rudy Gay and the rest of the vets already? Dude has no reason to be shooting the ball 16 times.

[offset formation]

Deadz, what up my man?

Hope 2020 wasn't too bad for you.

Lmk when you're back in LA, got a free helicopter ride coupon for you, good for the whole fam :toast

I'll take you up on that. Will be there in July.

[DeRozan m8]

I really hate AD for some reason

Because he pulled a weak bitch Kawhi move and threw a tantrum to get off the team to stick LeBrons Pole in his mouth.

In return, LeBron sticks Davis pole in his mouth because both can't make the playoffs without each other.

Weak as fuck

[hombre]

Refs sucked, but everyone was throwing up bricks in the fourth.

[Mugen]

I'll take you up on that. Will be there in July.

Expires on January 26th tbh

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Team looks good tbh. Just a bunch of young guy mistakes. Would love to see DWhite run the show when he shakes off the rust.
Yeah when White is at his best I’d love to see the ball in hands closing instead of derozan, but we all know Derozan wouldn’t like that...

[james evans]

This is a 3 point shooting league. Popovich has got to STOP this collapsing on the driver defense he’s been using for 24 years. The shit doesn’t work anymore. I’m tired of seeing teams shoot open 3s against us. And I know it’s coming before the play happens.

[Dverde]

The Lakers have no business complaining to the refs. Ever. Ridiculous. They’re gifted every call. Always.

Eubanks is making minimum level shit, maybe cut him some slack. Luka and Trey Lyles probably make more than him.

[Chomag]

If I wasn't such a big Spurs fan I honestly would be completely done with the NBA. Such a trash product they are running...

[RD2191]

Both LMA DDR have got to be the most anticlutch star players that I think I have ever seen.
they're both losers. always have been always will be.

[Emperor]

Can we call Atlanta and offer Poodle for Capela?

[FkLA]

DJ and Patty called their own numbers and missed down the stretch too. But Demar does it and he lost the game. :rolleyes

[Kurgan]

He was hit and deserved to go to the line.

Demar fans always blaming the refs when he chokes his shots.

[R. DeMurre]

Winnable until the end where DeMar called his own name. Selfish play led to the loss. Fuck

DeMar didn't have a bad game. But he did make terrible decisions at the end.

What else is new...

[SpurPadre]

Damn, should've had this one. Learning to win close games like this against good teams is part of the learning process for the youngins.

It's going to take a while because they didn't learn last season which was a big reason the playoff streak ended.

[MannyIsGod]

I mean why not fucking challenge that LeBron committed an offensive foul? What was there to lose?

I don't think you can. I was thinking the same thing tho, but I'm not sure its allowed since there was no call.

[Robz4000]

Refs sucked, but everyone was throwing up bricks in the fourth.

This. Spurs just don't have that guy who can provide consistent offense in the clutch until White gets his legs.

[timtonymanu]

Shoot can we get a top 5 pick this year? :lol

[offset formation]

I mean why not fucking challenge that LeBron committed an offensive foul? What was there to lose?

Can only challenge a call. Not a non-call.

[tim_duncan_fan]

When does Poetl's contract end? Dude is such a scrub offensively (and completely useless against good teams) that he is impossible to play.
Also can we just trade Rudy Gay and the rest of the vets already? Dude has no reason to be shooting the ball 16 times.

Rudy thinks he is THAT DUDE and yet the commentators mentioned multiple times how his teams made the playoffs maybe three times in his 10+ years in the league. He never wants to find the open guy.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Deadz, what up my man?

Hope 2020 wasn't too bad for you.

Lmk when you're back in LA, got a free helicopter ride coupon for you, good for the whole fam :toast
I’ll give it to my in-laws, they celebrate Christmas on the 7th

[daslicer]

Because he pulled a weak bitch Kawhi move and threw a tantrum to get off the team to stick LeBrons Pole in his mouth.

In return, LeBron sticks Davis pole in his mouth because both can't make the playoffs without each other.

Weak as fuck

He's black Gasol in the sense that he's a better as a sidekick versus being an Alpha. He also enjoys being Lebron's sidekick. The ultimate lackey.

[paperboy77]

3rd times a charm?

[Kurgan]

Yeah when White is at his best I’d love to see the ball in hands closing instead of derozan, but we all know Derozan wouldn’t like that...

Ideally, we let him take as much shots as he wants to inflate his numbers and trade him at the deadline. Helps the tank too.

[offset formation]

Expires on January 26th tbh

Oh, I see what you're saying. That's y son's birthday, also forevermore known as Kobes death day.

[DAF86]

Where are the play calls? It can't happen that at the end of a close game a guy just decides to force a fadeaway Jumper over two guys and from a close angle.

[John B]

I’m not so disappointed with our guys. They competed and going in the right direction. It would’ve been nice for a win. But the guys are getting great experience and should get better. Will get the wins.

[tbdog]

In like the last minute Lakers got away with a foul on DD. Goaltend. And offensive foul on LeBron.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Goddamn do I miss Rasho and Nazr.

[MannyIsGod]

and back to below .500 they go :lmao

Honestly if we go under .500 for as long as the Lakers did then maybe you can come talk that shit but until then I'm not so sure you have room to talk homie. Imagine blowing that many lottery picks and then being saved by Lebron wanting to live in LA.

[mystargtr34]

Deadz, what up my man?

Hope 2020 wasn't too bad for you.

Lmk when you're back in LA, got a free helicopter ride coupon for you, good for the whole fam :toast

I don't recall the last time i fuckin laughed out loud for 10 seconds reading something on the internet. So, thanks.

[SpurPadre]

I really think it would be for the best to trade Demar and LMA to contenders and let the young guys take control of the team. Vassell needs to play and we also need to see if Luka is an NBA player.

[Dejounte]

I’m not so disappointed with our guys. They competed and going in the right direction. It would’ve been nice for a win. But the guys are getting great experience and should get better. Will get the wins.

If this is how we're playing against the best fucking team in the NBA, the wins will come.

[duncan2k5]

DJ and Patty called their own numbers and missed down the stretch too. But Demar does it and he lost the game. :rolleyes

He by far has the worst +/-...this is who he has been his entire career...failure upon failure... especially in crunch time...

[daslicer]

Goddamn do I miss Rasho and Nazr.

I miss Splitter even he managed to become a good free throw shooter after that horrible series against OKC in 2012.

[Dverde]

Lakers are really good. Spurs played well. I think Spurs got a good chance at those Utah and Clippers games. These are are so much easier to watch than seeing Poop running out Mills, Belinelli, Forbes, DDR three at a time.

[poopbox]

Both LMA DDR have got to be the most anticlutch star players that I think I have ever seen.

Meh, I am by no means an LMA fan but the year Kawhi bitched up He pretty much dragged a bad Spurs team to the playoffs. He came up big in a lot of games then down the stretch

That was 3 years ago and that LMA is LONG gone now though

[offset formation]

On a positive note, did Kedon just have a way better all around game 26/10 at the age of 21 than nephew did by the time he was like 24 or so? And he's playing LeBron and other all-stars.

[duncan2k5]

Demar fans always blaming the refs when he chokes his shots.

Always... everytime he chokes, it's someone else's fault...if Toronto kept him, they'd still be ringless playoff failures that no one takes seriously

[MannyIsGod]

Really any Spurs fan that focuses on what DeMar, LMA, or Rudy do all season is just asking to be angry and not enjoy this season. Just hope for good development from KJ, DJ, Derrick, and Lonnie. Everything else is irrelevant.

[SpurPadre]

This. Spurs just don't have that guy who can provide consistent offense in the clutch until White gets his legs.

White hasn't proven he can do that consistently either.

[timtonymanu]

Honestly if we go under .500 for as long as the Lakers did then maybe you can come talk that shit but until then I'm not so sure you have room to talk homie. Imagine blowing that many lottery picks and then being saved by Lebron wanting to live in LA.

Lol so much truth but dickless Bynumite will still be dickless.

[Dejounte]

FYI

Milwaukee, Miami, and Dallas has or had (they played tonight) a 2-3 record.

You quitters thinking this is a lottery team are going to eat your words again.

I was on the fence, but I'll go bold and say it like I see it: this is a playoff team.

[Mugen]

This is basically the perfect loss, not sure why people are upset other than it's the Fakers :lol

Keldon balled out, Derrick is back, and another reminder that they shouldn't pay Derozan. All while getting closer to a lottery pick. Great f'n game tbh.

[paperboy77]

Devin DNP? WTF? How was this kid not useful?

[tim_duncan_fan]

I miss Splitter even he managed to become a good free throw shooter after that horrible series against OKC in 2012.

Hell, at this point, I think I would take Yawn Mahinmi.

OK, maybe not.

But our frontcourt is pathetic right now.

[Chomag]

I really think it would be for the best to trade Demar and LMA to contenders and let the young guys take control of the team. Vassell needs to play and we also need to see if Luka is an NBA player.I agree and have been saying that all along. The vets are the only thing holding this team back, sure there will still be allot of growing pains to come for sure but I would love to see how this team progress without these old guys holding them back.

[John B]

If this is how we're playing against the best fucking team in the NBA, the wins will come.
Yup against lesser teams, that’s a win. Keldon is a certified stud, not backing down from LeBron/Davis. The kid knows he belongs.

[Bynumite]

Lol so much truth but dickless Bynumite will still be dickless.

Cheer up buddy. At least your spurs covered the +7.5. So they're not completely useless i guess :lol

[SpurPadre]

Really any Spurs fan that focuses on what DeMar, LMA, or Rudy do all season is just asking to be angry and not enjoy this season. Just hope for good development from KJ, DJ, Derrick, and Lonnie. Everything else is irrelevant.

Yeah but I think their development would be better with those vets traded to contenders.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Devin DNP? WTF?

Instead of White and Devin, we had White and Patty lol

[FkLA]

:lol at you fools talking lottery

Top 4 team in the West. Book it.

[daslicer]

This is basically the perfect loss, not sure why people are upset other than it's the Fakers :lol

Keldon balled out, Derrick is back, and another reminder that they shouldn't pay Derozan. All while getting closer to a lottery pick. Great f'n game tbh.

It's the Fakers losing to these chodes will always suck but you are right.

[Mugen]

They really need to explore getting an asset for Rudy or Patty tbh.

I love Patty to death but it can be a win-win if the Spurs can nab a late 1st rounder for him and he gets to go to a contender.

[DAF86]

Yeah you will just find some foreign bum to suck off.

What's your problem? You're a DeRozan and Aldridge suckup? How can anyone watch them play and say "yeah, more of that for my team please"? :lol

[Dejounte]

Cheer up buddy. At least your spurs covered the +7.5. So they're not completely useless i guess :lol

This fucking loser again who has nothing else to do than spend time on a board who gives no shits what he thinks

[BillMc]

KJ needs to stay in that starting lineup.

Also, got to find a way to get Devin time now that White is back. Take some minutes from Lonnie and Murry just to give the rookie 5-10 minutes.

[SpurPadre]

Devin DNP? WTF?

Repeat after me, "He needs to get over himself."

[Mugen]

Cheer up buddy. At least your spurs covered the +7.5. So they're not completely useless i guess :lol

Sure, the Spurs are below .500 now but Kirby is below 6ft so it's a toss-up IMO :lol

[timtonymanu]

Cheer up buddy. At least your spurs covered the +7.5. So they're not completely useless i guess :lol

I didn't expect a win against the champs so it's whatever but you'll still be up here obsessing over my team, win or lose.

[Bynumite]

This fucking loser again who has nothing else to do than spend time on a board who gives no shits what he thinks

You obviously care about what i think, since you insist on following me around and replying to my posts :lol

[daslicer]

They really need to explore getting an asset for Rudy or Patty tbh.

I love Patty to death but it can be a win-win if the Spurs can nab a late 1st rounder for him and he gets to go to a contender.

I think as the trade deadline approaches they will be some contenders willing to flip draft picks for some of the Spurs vets. Just have to wait for teams to become desperate.

[FkLA]

Yup against lesser teams, that’s a win. Keldon is a certified stud, not backing down from LeBron/Davis. The kid knows he belongs.

He's a top for sure, imo.

[tim_duncan_fan]

They really need to explore getting an asset for Rudy or Patty tbh.

I love Patty to death but it can be a win-win if the Spurs can nab a late 1st rounder for him and he gets to go to a contender.

Draft 2 strong, long PF/Cs.

[Chomag]

Devin should not be getting dnp's... You don't do that with a lottery puck

[rankingtear]

So much bitching in a development year. Keldon just had 26-10.

[Dejounte]

You obviously care about what i think, since you insist on following me around and replying to my posts :lol

You're on the game thread that just ended 10 minutes ago. Nobody's following you around. Is this how stupid you are?

[mo7888]

I really think it would be for the best to trade Demar and LMA to contenders and let the young guys take control of the team. Vassell needs to play and we also need to see if Luka is an NBA player.

I'm with you on LMA (I'd be willing to move Gay too) but I don't see a trade with a contender that makes sense for them.

[John B]

Yeah but I think their development would be better with those vets traded to contenders.
Nah they need to be able to compete and they cannot do it without the veterans

[SpurSpike]

Was a good game and fun to watch.

Poeltl should not be a starter, we overpaid. He cant shoot make free throws and refuses to dunk. Spurs win this game had LMA been playing instead of Poeltl tonight.

[SpurPadre]

This game would've been won with Ma Touches even with Demar's usual 4th quarter misses. Still doesn't change the fact that we should trade both of them by the deadline.

[Mugen]

Jak has started every season with the Spurs slow AF tbh. I'm not too worried about him provided he can stay out of foul trouble. Lakers are a terrible matchup for him.

[paperboy77]

Hell, at this point, I think I would take Yawn Mahinmi.

OK, maybe not.

But our frontcourt is pathetic right now.

Somebody..." Todays NBA needs no Centers" The fr4eaking Lakers won the title based on big boy ball.

Everyone was swayed by GS in the last few years. NOBODY is as gifted as Stef. I see all these videos of how people can relate cuz of his size. Hell, I see it at the park all the time. These kids hiring "coaches/trainers" cuz they think they can be Curry. LOLOLOLOLOL!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Devin should not be getting dnp's... You don't do that with a lottery puck

Had to make room for Patty.


So much bitching in a development year. Keldon just had 26-10.

No one is not acknowledging that. So we are good long-term at SG/SF. That doesn't mean you don't discuss fixing remaining problems; like guys refusing to move the ball to the open shooter.

[mystargtr34]

Sure, the Spurs are below .500 now but Kirby is below 6ft so it's a toss-up IMO :lol

:lmao

[SpurPadre]

I'm with you on LMA (I'd be willing to move Gay too) but I don't see a trade with a contender that makes sense for them.

At least trade one of them but I'd rather trade them all. They deserve a shot at rings, especially LMA.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Somebody..." Todays NBA needs no Centers" The fr4eaking Lakers won the title based on big boy ball.

Everyone was swayed by GS in the last few years. NOBODY is as gifted as Stef. I see all these videos of how people can relate cuz of his size. Hell, I see it at the park all the time. These kids hiring "coaches/trainers" cuz they think they can be Curry. LOLOLOLOLOL!

Steph isn't even Steph when there isn't another Steph next to him. No one intelligent likes to look at small ball, let alone actually run with it as a strategy. Length is damn near everything when it comes to preventing the other team from scoring.

[Mugen]

Dejounte/Lonnie/Keldon have all really impressed so far this year at different itmes. Adding Derrick back into the mix and this has been a pretty damn good start to the year so far IMO regardless of a meaningless record.

Excited to watch this team continue to get better this season...

[Gibbz]

I agree--Pop giving a lottery pick a DNP with this roster we've got is shameful bullshit.

[BillMc]

Lakers are a terrible matchup for him.

If you can't play your big vs a team with other bigs, what can you do with him?

[mo7888]

At least trade one of them but I'd rather trade them all. They deserve a shot at rings, especially LMA.

What contender will give up anything for him?

I could see sacto offering Barnes and a pick or Woodard but, I wouldn't consider them contenders.

[SpurPadre]

Nah they need to be able to compete and they cannot do it without the veterans

They were given that shot last year. We need to rebuild. Next year's draft is loaded.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Does Keldon's mom have brothers?

[SpurPadre]

What contender will give up anything for him?

I could see sacto offering Barnes and a pick or Woodard but, I wouldn't consider them contenders.

The Dubs were willing to give up the #2 pick for LMA before Klay went down. So, interest is there.

[SpurSpike]

This game would've been won with Ma Touches even with Demar's usual 4th quarter misses. Still doesn't change the fact that we should trade both of them by the deadline.


IDK, part of me thinks we finally have the team that can complement DDR and LMA. The only thing that made them strange is that they occupied the same space but if both of them have bought into spreading the floor with a 3 point shot. We have the slashers/defenders/passers who can shoot to back them up now.

[Mugen]

If you can't play your big vs a team with other bigs, what can you do with him?

Lakers have 3 starting quality centers tbh, probably a 4th if you wanted to play LeBron there.

Jakob is soft (especially when he's been a slow starter every season as a Spur) but he's fine as a starting quality center in today's soft ass NBA tbh. Just needs his reps.

[Dejounte]

Does Keldon's mom have brothers?

It's okay to say the word 'uncle'. That word is not banned from ST :lol

[EasyMoney]

Devin needs to take 5 minutes away from both patty and rudy. That's an easy 10m

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's okay to say the word 'uncle'. That word is not banned from ST :lol

I've only been burned by a maternal uncle though, so that's all I was worried about. Now you have me scared of uncles in general. lol

[Emperor]

It's okay to say the word 'uncle'. That word is not banned from ST :lol

Just that word alone gets me worried.

[boutons_deux]

So many games come down to execution, shot making in the last 4 minutes.

Spurs are not yet crunch time performers.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Yooo, we need to figure this out. What is with Jak and the "no dunking" thing? That shit has cost us a lot of points this year already. I don't like it.

At this point I am for real down for mass bullying this guy on social media until he starts going up strong.

[paperboy77]

Steph isn't even Steph when there isn't another Steph next to him. No one intelligent likes to look at small ball, let alone actually run with it as a strategy. Length is damn near everything when it comes to preventing the other team from scoring.

So you agree with me that size matter in basketball. There's still room for a talented big.

BTW, all you hear nowadays is that the NBA is about position-less ball. Big's don't matter.

[Chinook]

Not as optimistic as I was after Tuesday. The Spurs have talent, though, and they should have a chance to beat LAC.

Walker was passive again. He had some passes where you'd think you were watching 2K because he'd be in the middle of a drive and all of the sudden contort and throw the ball to a random teammate. He needs to accept that he's going to get blocked or stripped from time to time and to just go for it. There's a difference between passing when he gets an open man for a better shot and passing to avoid shooting. For the most part, Lonnie did the latter. I don't know that speed is going to be his defensive asset. He overran a number of plays to leave guys open. The way he was benched after that Schroeder three, it seems like he missed a big rotation. Right now, he's neither solid or spectacular. Still, his lack of spot-up opportunities over the past two games was alarming. He passed up a wide-TF-open three and missed another, but he basically didn't get any chances against the Lakers. Getting him open three looks needs to be the priority for an SL that doesn't really have bona-fide shooters.

Murray was a little better in how controlled he played, but there were still possessions where he'd randomly call his own number and burp up a shot. He needs to be honest with himself about when him being aggressive is the best thing for the team. Right now, it's not as often as he thinks it is.

Johnson competed and had better results in terms of scoring. He and the rest of the team figured out an effective way to stop James from scoring efficiently, but they lack the ability to stop him from passing well. I think moving Johnson to Davis was the right call even though that's an impossible size disparity. He's doing nothing to make Pop not play him a PF for the regular season. But I still worry about his ability to do it physically for a season. I think he'll have inconsistent energy from the strain, but that's not fair to judge after Williamson and James/Davis for three straight games.

White was good defensively. A lot of other fans think he's bad money on his new deal. But even in limited minutes and with meh offense, it's clear that the only way that's true is if his injuries consume him. He's an awesome defender mentally, and he used him body really well to guard James. His hands and instincts also let him help effectively. The defensive ceiling of the team is so much higher when he plays. Pop's going to have to decide how to make his rotation, though. I like the idea of a full bench unit eventually with Vassell getting a role. That means one of the ball-handlers has to come off the bench. I don't think it should be White, but that's probably the one Pop would most rather put there. It's a weird idea that the team may be too young to justify a full 10-man rotation. But I do think it's worth doing.

Poeltl was fine. He was benched because no one can stop Davis. The Spurs need to use him more on offense as a passer. If Poe had even Eubanks' level of shooting, he'd be a very good high-post player. As it is, he's probably best as a short-roller. He needs to score better, but it's clear the Lakers adjusted to the open looks he was getting. That's part of the reason why he can't just be a finisher on offense.

Eubanks wasn't really that bad either. He's a third center who should really see big minutes anyway, so him having to play half the game multiple games in a row isn't fun. But he competed on both ends and didn't look too much worse than Harrell. Not a good performance, but he didn't look disappointing.

The team needs Aldridge.

[EasyMoney]

Yooo, we need to figure this out. What is with Jak and the "no dunking" thing? That shit has cost us a lot of points this year already. I don't like it.

At this point I am for real down for mass bullying this guy on social media until he starts going up strong.


Just another typical non American born softy. Would rather have Tiago right now.

[SpurPadre]

Yooo, we need to figure this out. What is with Jak and the "no dunking" thing? That shit has cost us a lot of points this year already. I don't like it.

At this point I am for real down for mass bullying this guy on social media until he starts going up strong.

Let's face it, Pop has always hated dunking.

[The Truth #6]

Interesting how Eubanks got so many minutes.

[tim_duncan_fan]

So you agree with me that size matter in basketball. There's still room for a talented big.

BTW, all you hear nowadays is that the NBA is about position-less ball. Big's don't matter.

You don't need a gun either until one is pointed at you. People are dumb.

If we moved Tim's and Shaq's brains into KAT's and Ayton's bodies, it'd be the 2000s all over again.



Let's face it, Pop has always hated dunking.

I mean, it is dumb, considering you can't touch the rim while the ball is in it, but you don't play by a rule that no one else plays by. He and Jakob are pretty much the only people who care about that.

[KobesAchilles]

Rudy thinks he is THAT DUDE and yet the commentators mentioned multiple times how his teams made the playoffs maybe three times in his 10+ years in the league. He never wants to find the open guy.
He’s the reason why I don’t want White to come off the bench. Dude just chucks and chucks and freezes out teammates

[SpurPadre]

Interesting how Eubanks got so many minutes.

If we're all about giving youth a shot then you give it to those with a modicum of NBA talent. Lyles, as bad as he is, should get more minutes than Eubanks because he can at least make shots and has done so more than a guy who went undrafted for a good reason. I mean, Samanic should get more minutes than Eubanks. We shouldn't be wasting our time with that guy.

[R. DeMurre]

What contender will give up anything for him?

I could see sacto offering Barnes and a pick or Woodard but, I wouldn't consider them contenders.

Richaun Holmes & Bjelica would do, though...

[mo7888]

Richaun Holmes & Bjelica would would do, though...

I think they'll insist on Barnes to offload future salary.

[SpurPadre]

What can Portland give us besides a 1st round pick for LMA?

[XDT76]

He’s the reason why I don’t want White to come off the bench. Dude just chucks and chucks and freezes out teammates

Yeah I have the opinion that White regress last year because Gay goes into iso mode and freeze out White.

[John B]

And LAC just lost

[PhantomDashCam]

My observations:

- Start of the 4th quarter. For the first 3 minutes of the final stanza, I thought the Spurs were putrid offensively. Many will point to late game execution but thought the seeds were sown then for the L.

- Rudy “Singularity” Gay. Defensively, I thought he has been solid the last 2 games but that Offense...Trust your teammates!!

- D White impacts the game positively whether he shoots the ball well or not. Missed that guy. Give him 5 - 10 games and he will be back up to speed.

- KJ. Holy cow! DDR has been solid and is shooting the ball well but I think we know who has the ‘3’ spot on lock for the next decade.
Kudos to all the early adopters. KJ is awesome.

[RD2191]

Not as optimistic as I was after Tuesday. The Spurs have talent, though, and they should have a chance to beat LAC.

Walker was passive again. He had some passes where you'd think you were watching 2K because he'd be in the middle of a drive and all of the sudden contort and throw the ball to a random teammate. He needs to accept that he's going to get blocked or stripped from time to time and to just go for it. There's a difference between passing when he gets an open man for a better shot and passing to avoid shooting. For the most part, Lonnie did the latter. I don't know that speed is going to be his defensive asset. He overran a number of plays to leave guys open. The way he was benched after that Schroeder three, it seems like he missed a big rotation. Right now, he's neither solid or spectacular. Still, his lack of spot-up opportunities over the past two games was alarming. He passed up a wide-TF-open three and missed another, but he basically didn't get any chances against the Lakers. Getting him open three looks needs to be the priority for an SL that doesn't really have bona-fide shooters.

Murray was a little better in how controlled he played, but there were still possessions where he'd randomly call his own number and burp up a shot. He needs to be honest with himself about when him being aggressive is the best thing for the team. Right now, it's not as often as he thinks it is.

Johnson competed and had better results in terms of scoring. He and the rest of the team figured out an effective way to stop James from scoring efficiently, but they lack the ability to stop him from passing well. I think moving Johnson to Davis was the right call even though that's an impossible size disparity. He's doing nothing to make Pop not play him a PF for the regular season. But I still worry about his ability to do it physically for a season. I think he'll have inconsistent energy from the strain, but that's not fair to judge after Williamson and James/Davis for three straight games.

White was good defensively. A lot of other fans think he's bad money on his new deal. But even in limited minutes and with meh offense, it's clear that the only way that's true is if his injuries consume him. He's an awesome defender mentally, and he used him body really well to guard James. His hands and instincts also let him help effectively. The defensive ceiling of the team is so much higher when he plays. Pop's going to have to decide how to make his rotation, though. I like the idea of a full bench unit eventually with Vassell getting a role. That means one of the ball-handlers has to come off the bench. I don't think it should be White, but that's probably the one Pop would most rather put there. It's a weird idea that the team may be too young to justify a full 10-man rotation. But I do think it's worth doing.

Poeltl was fine. He was benched because no one can stop Davis. The Spurs need to use him more on offense as a passer. If Poe had even Eubanks' level of shooting, he'd be a very good high-post player. As it is, he's probably best as a short-roller. He needs to score better, but it's clear the Lakers adjusted to the open looks he was getting. That's part of the reason why he can't just be a finisher on offense.

Eubanks wasn't really that bad either. He's a third center who should really see big minutes anyway, so him having to play half the game multiple games in a row isn't fun. But he competed on both ends and didn't look too much worse than Harrell. Not a good performance, but he didn't look disappointing.

The team needs Aldridge.
:lol

[MannyIsGod]

One thing that was great about Keldon tonight was his adjustment to pull up instead of barrel through and pick up a charge. I saw at least one floater and some other adjustments to get a good shot off.

[Dejounte]

My observations:

- Start of the 4th quarter. For the first 3 minutes of the final stanza, I thought the Spurs were putrid offensively. Many will point to late game execution but thought the seeds were sown then for the L.

- Rudy “Singularity” Gay. Defensively, I thought he has been solid the last 2 games but that Offense...Trust your teammates!!

- D White impacts the game positively whether he shoots the ball well or not. Missed that guy. Give him 5 - 10 games and he will be back up to speed.

- KJ. Holy cow! DDR has been solid and is shooting the ball well but I think we know who has the ‘3’ spot on lock for the next decade.
Kudos to all the early adopters. KJ is awesome.

https://media.tenor.com/images/de633cb52041701dd3fa35f5e3d770d3/tenor.gif

[BillMc]

What can Portland give us besides a 1st round pick for LMA?

Coffee.

[R. DeMurre]

If the most important thing this year is development-- a theory I actually agree with-- than why are DeRozan & Eubanks getting a combined 61 minutes while Vassell gets zero? What's getting developed there?

[tbdog]

Enough with those excuses. We choked and that's all there is to it. It was good to see Keldon play well, at least.

I wouldn't call the no call on DD, the no call on the goaltend, and the no call on lebron's charge a choke job.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

One thing that was great about Keldon tonight was his adjustment to pull up instead of barrel through and pick up a charge. I saw at least one floater and some other adjustments to get a good shot off.
Yeah and that amazing euro step he did and scored over Davis iirc

[Dejounte]

If the most important thing this year is development-- a theory I actually agree with-- than why are DeRozan & Eubanks getting a combined 61 minutes while Vassell gets zero? What's getting developed there?

Lonnie, Murray, Keldon, Poetl, White are all being developed.

Not a popular opinion, but those three wouldn't look as good if they were thrown out there from year one.

[R. DeMurre]

Lonnie, Murray, Keldon are all being developed.



Obviously, but that's not my point.

[Dejounte]

Obviously, but that's not my point.

That's what people mean when they say this year is development... I think that is your point. You're focused on one rook.

[Capt Bringdown]

LakerRef lets Bron-Bron commit offensive foul after offensive foul ala Shaq.
NBA = shitty product.

[John B]

If the most important thing this year is development-- a theory I actually agree with-- than why are DeRozan & Eubanks getting a combined 61 minutes while Vassell gets zero? What's getting developed there?
I think they learn in competitive games than from garbage minutes, that means matching the bigs with Eubanks. But instead of Vassell, Luka and Diop should’ve some burn. Spurs seriously need help on bigs, either thru PNR or they wouldn’t guard our bigs.

[Dejounte]

I'm going to bust a myth...

When people say, "the vets (DeMar, LMA, Rudy) are in the way of the young guys", I think they need to choose their words better.

The young guys are getting ample time and opportunity. They're getting enough shots for themselves (except in crunch time, I guess).

I'd say the better wording is... "The vets are in the way of us winning."

Though I wouldn't even say that's applicable for ALL games we lose. They do help us win sometimes.

We'll upgrade from these guys soon enough. For now, it's exciting to watch the development of our young trio.

[R. DeMurre]

That's what people mean when they say this year is development... I think that is your point. You're focused on one rook.

Nope. I'm focused on all the young guys who will plausibly play important roles in the future... and that's not DeRozan or Eubanks.

[Dejounte]

Nope. I'm focused on all the young guys who will plausibly play important roles in the future... and that's not DeRozan or Eubanks.

Vassell is going through what all our rookies have historically gone through. He's had opportunities and through those opportunities he's shown he's not on the level of rooks who are too impactful NOT to play (Timmy D, Kawhi, Parker). He's decent, but he's got a lot to learn. Because of this, his minutes are going to be spotty, unless he learns to make the most of his minutes. So far, his handle is a liability out there.

[JeffDuncan]

...
Walker was passive again. ...


Your comments are good about Walker. But I think it needs to be added, the coaching seems to have screwed him up. Those drives you mention, where he contorts and passes, I don't think that kind of thing is his own original idea. He's been overcoached to be a playmaker, is what it looks like to me. Too bad that nobody can tell Pop to go bother somebody else.

Murray's better, as you say, but he's still impulsive. Not surprising. More experience is the best teacher for that.

Keldon, the only thing to say is, keep playing him!

White stepped in, and was easily recognizable as the same player. Good to see.



Poeltl was fine. ...


I have to disagree. As a starting 7' center on an NBA team he was not fine at all. If he isn't good enough to compete with the best, he is not good enough for the Spurs, except maybe as a backup. Maybe.

Eubanks ... tried. Can't fault his effort. But there's lots of players who have tried their best, and are not in the NBA.



The team needs Aldridge.

The team needs a young big man who can play the darn game.

[R. DeMurre]

I'm going to bust a myth...

When people say, "the vets (DeMar, LMA, Rudy) are in the way of the young guys", I think they need to choose their words better.

The young guys are getting ample time and opportunity. They're getting enough shots for themselves (except in crunch time, I guess).

I'd say the better wording is... "The vets are in the way of us winning."

Though I wouldn't even say that's applicable for ALL games we lose. They do help us win sometimes.

We'll upgrade from these guys soon enough. For now, it's exciting to watch the development of our young trio.

:lol I'm going to bust a myth too: a bunch of young players watching DeRozan have the worst body language on the team, emphasize offense over defense, play hero ball in late 4th quarter scenarios, and have a decade's worth of terrible advanced stats that incredibly get even worse come playoff time are not going to "develop" faster.

[Dejounte]

:lol I'm going to bust a myth too: a bunch of young players watching DeRozan have the worst body language on the team, emphasize offense over defense, play hero ball in late 4th quarter scenarios, and have a decade's worth of terrible advanced stats that incredibly get even worse come playoff time are not going to "develop" faster.

It's fine to hate on DeMar like that (scratch that. Just don't copy duncan2k5's repetitive ass), but to say our young guys are being influenced by DeMar and that their destinies are being controlled by DeMar ... makes it seem as if they're stupid and easily influenced. That's a lack of accountability and I call it BS. They're in control of their own destiny. They're fully grown adults.

Like I said, they're getting plenty of opportunities.

[R. DeMurre]

It's fine to hate on DeMar like that, but to say our young guys are being influenced by DeMar and that their destinies are being controlled by DeMar ... makes it seem as if they're stupid and easily influenced. That's a lack of accountability and I call it BS. They're in control of their own destiny. They're fully grown adults.

Like I said, they're getting plenty of opportunities.


I don't hate Demar at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he can play a prominent role on a championship team. And I said nothing about the young guys being too easily influenced or lacking in ability to make smart decisions-- I was simply pointing out the obvious shortcomings of the development angle. I think if DeRozan had never become a Spur and was now on the Clippers, Lakers, 76ers, or Celtics, people here would probably drag out all of the statistical arguments to show how ineffective he is in many situations, but since he's a Spur, the homer gene comes out and so some avoid the obvious like the plague.

[R. DeMurre]

Isn't that what Drew used to call the spurgy doink eyetester blah blah blah?

[Dejounte]

I don't hate Demar at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he can play a prominent role on a championship team. And I said nothing about the young guys being too easily influenced or lacking in ability to make smart decisions-- I was simply pointing out the obvious shortcomings of the development angle. I think if DeRozan had never become a Spur and was now on the Clippers, Lakers, 76ers, or Celtics, people here would probably drag out all of the statistical arguments to show how ineffective he is in many situations, but since he's a Spur, the homer gene comes out and so some avoid the obvious like the plague.

I mean, in some way I agree with this. I think maybe there's a chance there for him to be a 3rd option but unlikely.

When you point out the development angle, you pointed out DeMar's flaws and how "a bunch of young players watched him". That implied to me that you think his flaws affect the young guys' development, which led to my response of "the young guys are in control of their own destiny and are getting ample opportunities, so why would DeMar affect their development at all".

I don't know how we aren't on the same page here.

[paperboy77]

We lost but we improved. Improved by gaining experience. As long as we don't lose confidence and understand that we learning.. I think we can overachieve.

[KobesAchilles]

:lol
Dude said Poetl played fine. I guess air balling lay ups is considered fine :lol

[KobesAchilles]

Lonnie, Murray, Keldon, Poetl, White are all being developed.

Not a popular opinion, but those three wouldn't look as good if they were thrown out there from year one.
Not a popular opinion but Poetl isn't developing at all. He still can't shoot free throws or a jumper. He still sucks offensively at pretty much everything and he's stull soft. He also can't guard anybody with actual talent and he still is foul prone and playing 20 minutes a game. Though to be fair, 20 minutes a game would be a career high for him :lol

[Dejounte]

Not a popular opinion but Poetl isn't developing at all. He still can't shoot free throws or a jumper. He still sucks offensively at pretty much everything and he's stull soft. He also can't guard anybody with actual talent and he still is foul prone and playing 20 minutes a game. Though to be fair, 20 minutes a game would be a career high for him :lol

There's no defending Poetl tonight. All I can say is he's young and hopefully he gets better.

[BackHome]

I don't hate Demar at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he can play a prominent role on a championship team. And I said nothing about the young guys being too easily influenced or lacking in ability to make smart decisions-- I was simply pointing out the obvious shortcomings of the development angle. I think if DeRozan had never become a Spur and was now on the Clippers, Lakers, 76ers, or Celtics, people here would probably drag out all of the statistical arguments to show how ineffective he is in many situations, but since he's a Spur, the homer gene comes out and so some avoid the obvious like the plague.

Do not worry this team is FAR FAR away from even close to sniffing a Championship

[BackHome]

There's no defending Poetl tonight. All I can say is he's young and hopefully he gets better.

Man Poodle is so soft he is killing me with his kindness he needs to start to grow a pair and just Man Up. Just go out and play physical and don’t worry about fouling out. I wish Pop would just keep him in until he fouls out just let him play through it’s the only way he is going to figure it out.

[rankingtear]

ST new obssesion Poeltl still leads the team in Net Rtg. This team should be good.

[duncan2k5]

Lonnie, Murray, Keldon, Poetl, White are all being developed.

Not a popular opinion, but those three wouldn't look as good if they were thrown out there from year one.

Completely disagree...if they were out there from year 1, they may have been stars at this point... Other teams play their first and second round picks from day 1, and now many of those players are players we would want on our team... It's almost like only giving Luka Doncic real minutes in year 3, then saying he only looks good because he was benched his first two years

[duncan2k5]

Vassell is going through what all our rookies have historically gone through. He's had opportunities and through those opportunities he's shown he's not on the level of rooks who are too impactful NOT to play (Timmy D, Kawhi, Parker). He's decent, but he's got a lot to learn. Because of this, his minutes are going to be spotty, unless he learns to make the most of his minutes. So far, his handle is a liability out there.

That's a shit way of developing young players...teams OUTSIDE of the lottery are giving their draft picks consistent minutes...and we,who are a lottery team is still playing cute with ours...then wonder why they are inconsistent and not confident when they get real playing time...they don't get to learn tendencies of other teams and players sitting on the bench...nothing can simulate playing real games