The Insurrectionists Would Like You to Know That They’re the Real Victims

[RandomGuy]

So it begins.

Lies ("it was antifa, durr"), spin (it wasn't that bad, BLM something, duh), etc. We see it here already.

The overriding need to be the victim means they will turn this into something other an a literal violent assault on democracy itself.

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The perpetrators of the assault on the Capitol and their sympathizers in the media and Congress lost little time in claiming the mantle of victimhood/

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History is rewritten by the self-styled victims.

Even after more than four years of rationalizing and excusing every violation by the president, Donald Trump’s enablers have their work cut out for them this week, after a mob incited by Trump sacked the U.S. Capitol, disrupted constitutional order, and killed a police officer. But, undeterred, they are still energetically devoted to the task.

I warned yesterday that Trump’s remaining allies would seek to memory-hole the January 6 attempted coup and convince people that it didn’t happen the way it did. The whitewashing is already in full motion. Some takes the form of dangerous disinformation—false claims, for example, that antifa was behind the siege and not Trump backers, even though Trump cheered them on. Those are fringe ideas catering to a fringe audience, however, and they mostly serve to muddy the waters.

The more common argument on the mainstream Trump-friendly right is simpler: It contends that what happened wasn’t so bad, and anyway it was someone else’s fault. The real victims, it turns out, are Trump and his supporters.

In an absurd video statement released this morning, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tried to have it every way he could. He condemned the riot and warned against seeking “political shelter in divisive political movements and in conspiracy theories,” but instantly pivoted to talking about the real problem: the press.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/victimhood/617604/

[weebo]

These peoples' minds have been raped into submission by right wing propaganda for decades...they'll lie to themselves to warp reality because accepting the truth damages their existence.

[Monostradamus]

lol @ anyone thinking this would die with Trump.

[Soldier Lives Matter]

Indeed. All those treasonist lawmakers want you to know that they're the real victims.

[ChumpDumper]

Indeed. All those treasonist lawmakers want you to know that they're the real victims.
derp springing in to prove this:

These peoples' minds have been raped into submission by right wing propaganda for decades...they'll lie to themselves to warp reality because accepting the truth damages their existence.

[Winehole23]

Trump leading a revanchist movement to topple the US government has already started, the only suspense is whether this movement will be crushed in its cradle or given room to grow, thrive and crush US democracy.

Republican cries of "unity" and "meanie bobeanie" disclose a preference for the latter imho.

[ChumpDumper]

This is all you need to know about how gently these traitors were treated.

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Remember, June 1 was the day all these people got gassed and assaulted and arrested for [checks notes] standing in a public square near a church.

[Bogie]

lol @ anyone thinking this would die with Trump.


absolutely true.

for 30 years now the people that think for these losers have stoked every single flame of division and fear and hatred of everything different, only to immediately try to position themselves as victims of unfair treatment when called out for their actions. It’s very much part of their playbook.

the stupids will fall in line, just like always.

[SnakeBoy]

Trump leading a revanchist movement to topple the US government has already started, the only suspense is whether this movement will be crushed in its cradle or given room to grow, thrive and crush US democracy.


Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.

[tholdren]

So it begins.

Lies ("it was antifa, durr"), spin (it wasn't that bad, BLM something, duh), etc. We see it here already.

The overriding need to be the victim means they will turn this into something other an a literal violent assault on democracy itself.

------------------------------------------------

The perpetrators of the assault on the Capitol and their sympathizers in the media and Congress lost little time in claiming the mantle of victimhood/

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/JSIEI4w09SzwEf76E-R9WBF4QD8=/0x230:5760x3470/720x405/https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2021/01/2021_01_07T190412Z_717933846_RC273L9ZXHZL_RTRMADP_ 3_USA_ELECTION/original.jpg

History is rewritten by the self-styled victims.

Even after more than four years of rationalizing and excusing every violation by the president, Donald Trump’s enablers have their work cut out for them this week, after a mob incited by Trump sacked the U.S. Capitol, disrupted constitutional order, and killed a police officer. But, undeterred, they are still energetically devoted to the task.

I warned yesterday that Trump’s remaining allies would seek to memory-hole the January 6 attempted coup and convince people that it didn’t happen the way it did. The whitewashing is already in full motion. Some takes the form of dangerous disinformation—false claims, for example, that antifa was behind the siege and not Trump backers, even though Trump cheered them on. Those are fringe ideas catering to a fringe audience, however, and they mostly serve to muddy the waters.

The more common argument on the mainstream Trump-friendly right is simpler: It contends that what happened wasn’t so bad, and anyway it was someone else’s fault. The real victims, it turns out, are Trump and his supporters.

In an absurd video statement released this morning, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tried to have it every way he could. He condemned the riot and warned against seeking “political shelter in divisive political movements and in conspiracy theories,” but instantly pivoted to talking about the real problem: the press.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/victimhood/617604/

Crazy. Almost identical to may.

[ChumpDumper]

Crazy. Almost identical to may.No.

You are low information, low IQ and mentally ill.

[ChumpDumper]

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[Winehole23]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.*Biden is the real Hitler*

saucy!

[ElNono]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.

As long as it provokes trumptard tears, let's do it...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.

You are remarkably well-versed in fascist political history yet so very ignorant in pretty much everything else.

[Will Hunting]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.
:tu

[Winehole23]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template. an in-plain-sight MAGA coup attempt is not akin to the Reichstag Fire, pre-emptive hand-wringing about law enforcement excesses when investigations have merely commenced is telling.


bad conscience?

[Bogie]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.


this is really stupid. A new low for you, and that’s saying something.

[Trainwreck2100]

Some of them are victims though, many are just fucking idiots who have no idea what they represent, because they are literally stupid. They were sent out by parties who should really be punished, but wont

[ElNono]

Some of them are victims though, many are just fucking idiots who have no idea what they represent, because they are literally stupid. They were sent out by parties who should really be punished, but wont

Being gullible is not a defense, tbh... first time offenders will probably get a reduced sentence anyways...

[Trainwreck2100]

Being gullible is not a defense, tbh... first time offenders will probably get a reduced sentence anyways...

contrary to what Dems believe, you can be a victim, and it can be your fault

[Spurminator]

There are millions of people in this country who firmly believe that the elections are rigged against them, that Christianity is going to be banned, that we are headed towards a leftist dystopia where their thoughts and actions are policed by globalist elites who hate America. If you really believe this was happening, why wouldn't you try to overthrow such a government?

But of course none of that is happening, and those beliefs are put in their head by leaders who suffer absolutely no consequences from doing so, and in fact benefit politically from doing so. Same goes for conservative media and personalities who bring in millions and curry favor from Republicans from scaring their minions to this point.

And of course now they want unity and harmony.

[Winehole23]

BE NICE OR WE'LL DO IT AGAIN

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[SnakeBoy]

You are remarkably well-versed in fascist political history yet so very ignorant in pretty much everything else.

Well I did warn all of you about 10 months ago that SAR-CoV-2 was the 5th endemic HCoV and would burn through the entire globe. Called it!

[DarrinS]

Did any politician set up a fund to bail these people out?

I know the VP-elect set up something like that for social justice "activists".

[SnakeBoy]

an in-plain-sight MAGA coup attempt is not akin to the Reichstag Fire, pre-emptive hand-wringing about law enforcement excesses when investigations have merely commenced is telling.


bad conscience?

No just a Nazi joke. I would've made it a commie joke but couldn't think of anything.

[Bogie]

Did any politician set up a fund to bail these people out?

I know the VP-elect set up something like that for social justice "activists".

you should go pass out and sober up. You’re really dumb to begin with, the booze makes it worse

[Winehole23]

No just a Nazi joke. I would've made it a commie joke but couldn't think of anything.oh, just a cheap joke. I'll not make that mistake again, some posters use humor to make a point.

[Winehole23]

Did any politician set up a fund to bail these people out?

I know the VP-elect set up something like that for social justice "activists".

There is no bail schedule in DC, pre-trial services usually recommends signature bail.

https://stuckinjail.com/article-posting-bail-in-washington-d-c-4-things-to-know

[spursncowboys]

I don't know what the problem is. We got rid of Confederate statues. Problem solved!

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Every Trump supporter has to be a cunt about this.

Except CC, kind of.

[ElNono]

I don't know what the problem is. We got rid of Confederate statues. Problem solved!

Now we're getting rid of the seditionists... another problem solved.

[spursncowboys]

BLM/Antifa?

[ElNono]

Trumptards...

[spursncowboys]

Trumptards...
Witty. What's a clever name for a Biden supporter? Make believe. Or maybe Pedo-pal

[spursncowboys]

Witty. What's a clever name for a Biden supporter? Make believe. Or maybe Pedo-pal
I know-nurse

[ChumpDumper]

Witty. What's a clever name for a Biden supporter? Make believe. Or maybe Pedo-pal

You can call us the winners this time around.

You lost.

How does it feel?

[ElNono]

Witty. What's a clever name for a Biden supporter? Make believe. Or maybe Pedo-pal

Bidets?

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

The public record will be fire

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Don’t censor bin laden, it will only make al qaeda angrier

[FrostKing]

"assault on the Capitol"

They ran into a building and posed for some pictures :lol

I don't blame you politically milking it though. Congrats :tu

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trump supporters still trying to downplay this.

Pathetic white people.

[FrostKing]

Evil white people has the more sinister ring to it that you are looking for

[ChumpDumper]

Evil white people has the more sinister ring to it that you are looking forNo, you're pathetic.

You're not sinister.

You aren't doing shit about any of this except cheering it on and making excuses.

[Winehole23]

Evil white people has the more sinister ring to it that you are looking forDamn, you really know how to bore a white bitch.

You're off to a good start, keep it coming! :lol

[FrostKing]

No, you're pathetic.

You're not sinister.

You aren't doing shit about any of this except cheering it on and making excuses.
Evidently I am a collaborator of the historic coup assault because I voted for Donald Hitler.

Democrats will be speaking of this event for centuries to come. Hopefully it takes up an entire chapter in those cute history books you are putting together. 1619 Project?

[ChumpDumper]

Evidently I am a collaborator of the historic coup assault because I voted for Donald Hitler.No, you're a pathetic apologist who will be forever on the wrong side of history with all the other pieces of shit who thought voting for a bankrupt, money laundering game show host was a keen idea.

Glad I could clear that up for you.:tu

[RandomGuy]

Yes this event should be used to crush political rivals and establish permanent one party rule. Capitol Hill Riot Decree should be Biden's first act. He could use the Reichstag Fire Decree as a template.

Ah yes. the core of modern conservatism is dishonesty and violence.

The dishonesty brought out the violence, and your dishonesty here... mirrors that. Every time you lie like this, you prove my point for me.

Your butthurt is joyous to watch, though.

How does it feel to be part of a radical movement looking to overthrow democracy?

When did you first know you were ok with outright fascism?

[Warlord23]

If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

Both groups:
- Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
- Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
- Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
- Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
- Blame the "enemy" when the shit hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.

[Frenchfred]

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what a dick...ask Borat's daughter

[Frenchfred]

"assault on the Capitol"

They ran into a building and posed for some pictures :lol

I don't blame you politically milking it though. Congrats :tu

are you for real? That's all you saw?

[ChumpDumper]

are you for real? That's all you saw?A cop and four of his own white people die and he says it's jes' pics.

[Winehole23]

where were they radicalized?

who radicalized them?

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[weebo]

If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

Both groups:
- Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
- Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
- Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
- Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
- Blame the "enemy" when the shit hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.

Easiest way to attack Trumpism is through social equality. Level the playing field enough for the have-nots and most of this garbage will go away.

[Bogie]

Witty. What's a clever name for a Biden supporter? Make believe. Or maybe Pedo-pal

you’re really stupid

[Bogie]

Ah yes. the core of modern conservatism is dishonesty and violence.

The dishonesty brought out the violence, and your dishonesty here... mirrors that. Every time you lie like this, you prove my point for me.

Your butthurt is joyous to watch, though.

How does it feel to be part of a radical movement looking to overthrow democracy?

When did you first know you were ok with outright fascism?

I’m going to guess when a half black man was elected president.

what do I win?

[Will Hunting]

you’re really stupid
Back when he posted years ago he was able to speak in complete sentences with somewhat coherent grammar. That appears to no longer be the case.

Right wing media really dulls the brain.

[Bogie]

Back when he posted years ago he was able to speak in complete sentences with somewhat coherent grammar. That appears to no longer be the case.

Right wing media really dulls the brain.

it truly does. People I’ve known for decades, family members and the like, fell into the abyss of the echo chamber in 2008, and they are no longer coherent in thought. They only speak in talking points now.

before I meet up with any of them, I peruse what they’ve been fed, so I know what to expect.

[LkrFan]

GOP scum live tweeting from the floor - when they are not supposed to have phone in the first place
https://twitter.com/realTuckFrumper/status/1348353039552421892?s=19

I hope Nancy Pelosi subpoenas her phone records.

[Will Hunting]

Senators live tweeting from the floor - when they are not supposed to have phone in the first place
https://twitter.com/realTuckFrumper/status/1348353039552421892?s=19

I hope Nancy Pelosi subpoenas her phone records.
Pelosi won’t need to. Merrick Garland coming for that ass :lol

[LkrFan]

Pelosi won’t need to. Merrick Garland coming for that ass :lol

:lol - forgot about him. He has an axe to grind :wow

https://twitter.com/wickedrissa/status/1348142979932966912?s=19

LL Cool Joe made him the AG :lmao

[Will Hunting]

:lol - forgot about him. He has an axe to grind :wow

https://twitter.com/wickedrissa/status/1348142979932966912?s=19

LL Cool Joe made him the AG :lmao
Garland also specializes in pursuing right wing terrorists. As a prosecutor he was involved with McVeigh and the Atlanta Olympics bombing. Joe’s making him AG so he can get all the SAWMs locked up :tu

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1348162119393570816?s=19

C:lolwards

[LkrFan]

Garland also specializes in pursuing right wing terrorists. As a prosecutor he was involved with McVeigh and the Atlanta Olympics bombing. Joe’s making him AG so he can get all the SAWMs locked up :tu

Dude! I forgot he was connected to Methlahoma's Timothy McVeigh :lol

Didn't know he specializes in pursuing right wing terrorists. That's awesome :tu

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/BlairDayton16/status/1348346495632871427?s=19

This pisses me off.

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/BlairDayton16/status/1348346495632871427?s=19

This pisses me off.

Sick. The blue lives matter crew will not say shit about this either.

[Trill Clinton]

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[LkrFan]

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Was it really suicide? I doubt it but we'll see

[ElNono]

Damn, Arnold going Terminator on Dennison's ass...

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[ChumpDumper]

Shot (original thread deleted by author):

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Chaser:

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[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/copingmaga/status/1348404250871795713?s=21
:lmao

[Spurminator]

I take it Capitol Police don't wear body cams? Otherwise I'm sure we'd be seeing some insane POV video by now.

[Winehole23]

I take it Capitol Police don't wear body cams? Otherwise I'm sure we'd be seeing some insane POV video by now.not 100% sure, this is recalled by heart, I think Capitol Police answers directly to Congress.

[Winehole23]

other reputational damage

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[RandomGuy]

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Guy seems to be well regarded. Shame.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Trump's patriotic myrmidons aren't done yet


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[ElNono]

Trump's patriotic myrmidons aren't done yet


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:lmao:lmao:lmao

[spurraider21]

If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

Both groups:
- Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
- Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
- Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
- Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
- Blame the "enemy" when the shit hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.
wonder if susan collins was on to something

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[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841

[RandomGuy]

If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

Both groups:
- Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
- Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
- Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
- Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
- Blame the "enemy" when the shit hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.

Trumpism has only been around for a few years, but the sense of grievance and entitlement has been building up ever since the inception of Fox News started creating a politically expedient narrative that the conservative politicians could use to fleece the rubes.