Grades: Spurs at Warriors - Jan. 20, 2021

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-san-antonio-spurs-golden-state-warriors-game-15/

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[TheGreatYacht]

Is that the first F grade ever in your game grades? :wow I’ve seen a lot of Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills performances in my day and always correctly anticipated the classic D-

[BillMc]

Good stuff as always OP.:bobo

I would switch Keldon's and Lonnie's grades. They were both terrible tonight, but KJ at least hustled and rebounded.

[apalisoc_9]

Pop didnt get an F..lol

embarrasing.

[spurs10]

Ouch! Thanks for the grades.

[John B]

Thanks for the grades Timvp. The Dubs jumped on our guys early and never looked back. It didn’t help that Sours were 3/32 from downtown, while Dubs kept sinking theirs. I find that Spurs have problems protecting the 3’s this year. I don’t get it when they have long athletic guards who should have no problem staying with their men.

Pop should’ve Demar get Aldridge start early. It worked the other night, and would’ve pulled Wiseman out and opened the lanes for Keldon/Lonnie to drive.

Aldridge is becoming a defensive liability. He needs to start early or he would pout the rest of the game. I would give him an F

Lonnie was equally horible on defense. As athletic as he is. Lonnie gets loose from his man a lot. Curry was just toying with him and Mills. I don’t know Vassell or DJ wasn’t put on Curry more. Dubs live and die with Curry. Pop F for that.

Keldon/Lonnie needs to attack more. I don’t know why that’s not on the gameplan a lot.

All in all, I though they could have done a better job defensively. They seemed to be starstruck with Curry.

[jeebus]

Ah, it's just one of those games where nothing falls. Happens a few times a season.

[poopbox]

LMA is not a good basketball player anymore. Hasn't been all season. Won't be going forward.

Keldons game needs to evolve as he has been "figured out" so to speak...teams know he is either going to shoot an open 3 and they don't care cause he is not known as a shooter yet, or if you drive him off the line he is going to try and go all the way to the rim so you can just load up on him their. Part of his problem is that our bigs are so trash that defenses can easily just go after Keldon's shot cause its not like we are going to lob it or pass it to a big to get them an easy dunk like literally every other team in the nba. This just might be who keldon is until we get some modern big men on the team. Same thing for Lonnie.

[Fireball]

Spurs never had a chance when Curry was playing ... our three point shooting remains a problem.

[sananspursfan21]

I’ve noticed how the Spurs have (or at least had) a better record with Aldridge in the line up as opposed to him being out and thinking that maybe there’s something to this. But I’m realizing now that it may just be because Aldridge is another warm body over 6’10”. I’m ready for a trade to happen now...

[r0drig0lac]

I’ve noticed how the Spurs have (or at least had) a better record with Aldridge in the line up as opposed to him being out and thinking that maybe there’s something to this. But I’m realizing now that it may just be because Aldridge is another warm body over 6’10”. I’m ready for a trade to happen now...look at the comments of the Clippers game, this was obvious in that game, the only reason LA is important is that its backups don’t even have the talent to be legitimate starters in good teams and it costs 1/4 of the cap, no for being the best player on the team, most impactful (and all that eternal attempt to see beyond the obvious, when there is nothing to see), etc.

[Truth4sale$]

Well, i mostly agree with these grades, accept for Rudy Gay, he played poorly-I saw nothing from him but usual isolation play as if he is 25 again. Vasell showed hustle and heart through defense and that was worth the same as Dejounte.
I am seeing some of the older guys looking for their shot ( Mills and Gay) instead of moving the ball, where as Walker seems unsure and timid and constantly defers to others, when he is the best pure 3 level scorer but cant seem to get into any rhythm.

[Dex]

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[SpursDynasty85]

Lol. Fools gold record. GS was so much more prepared. Made us look like a bunch of rookies. GS are slightly underrated still have plenty of talent, chemistry, and experience. As long as the young ones keep getting their minutes, especially when White comes back, we will be just fine. If we suck we get a higher draft pick if we are pretty good we will hopefully pick up a solid free agent who makes us a legit playoff squad. Just ride out the ups and downs. Either way I’m excited to see where this team goes.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

keldon F? nucb. he went to the line 11 times. that's enough for a d-

lma should get an f

[sananspursfan21]

look at the comments of the Clippers game, this was obvious in that game, the only reason LA is important is that its backups don’t even have the talent to be legitimate starters in good teams and it costs 1/4 of the cap, no for being the best player on the team, most impactful (and all that eternal attempt to see beyond the obvious, when there is nothing to see), etc.

I don’t disagree one bit. I’m still holding on to nostalgia of LMA I suppose in hopes that maybe having him on the team is still a positive but unless he were usurped to the bench on a 15-20 minute a game basis, he can’t be on this team and it be long term successful. Especially since his defensive assignments are so much faster and athletic than he is at this stage. I just worry the more the league sees this, the harder it will be to offload him. His Blazers game was good on offense though for selling point?

[BackHome]

I think everyone can agree that neither LMA or Poodle are starting big men in today’s NBA.

[MultiTroll]

keldon F? nucb. he went to the line 11 times. that's enough for a d-

lma should get an f
Pet.

[rjv]

i actually think the box and one worked alright. but, yeah, walker and kj were awful on defense, just awful.

[SPURt]

Thanks for doing the grades timvp... Certainly a labor of love after whatever that was last night

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Pet.

Pet?

me stupid, explain please

[KobesAchilles]

I think everyone can agree that neither LMA or Poodle are starting big men in today’s NBA.
If only we could combine them into one person... But alas, we have one guy who air balls 2 foot shots and another whose favorite past time is to let people drive past him and score

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The team definitely laid an egg last night. This game, and the Utah game, it appeared like we got out-hustled and didn't put forth the energy needed to win. This is an effort group that will win on desire as much, or more than skill. I think there are more talented teams out there, so when our guys come out flat, it's a guaranteed loss, almost regardless of the opponent.

Interesting how our four vets showed up in tandem for Portland, but none of them brought it last night (with the 1/2 credit exception for Rudy).

[poopbox]

I don’t disagree one bit. I’m still holding on to nostalgia of LMA I suppose in hopes that maybe having him on the team is still a positive but unless he were usurped to the bench on a 15-20 minute a game basis, he can’t be on this team and it be long term successful. Especially since his defensive assignments are so much faster and athletic than he is at this stage. I just worry the more the league sees this, the harder it will be to offload him. His Blazers game was good on offense though for selling point?

There is a virtual 0% chance to trade LMA now. Anybody who puts him on film for 10 seconds is going to see how awful he is. Usually if teams like a player and he is playing bad they will put blame on the current team doing something wrong and trade for the guy anyway cause they feel they can be successful with him. But LMA is just the worst of everything now. Big and slow, old with bad knees, sets one screen and takes one step back., doesn't defend the rim doesnt close out doesn't rebound doesn't get to the line, doesn't really do anything but be tall and take long 2's and 3's that no other team cares about because he shoots such a low percentage.

I thought he had some value as an isolation post scorer but he doesn't even attempt to do that anymore so...nothing really going for him that a team would be interested in.

Luckily for us the number one thing we need are younger more athletic bigs, and the draft is a good way to acquire those, and LMA's poor play is going to help us acquire that type of talent :lol

Have you seen the front car of the tank train ? It looks like this :lma

[lefty]

Would love to see more Vassell on Curry next time; Pop cant be too conservative

Steph toyed with our D, and Lonnie bits too easily on pumpfakes :lol

[spurraider21]

copying this over from the game thread

three pointers:

Lonnie has made 2 of his last 13

Keldon has made 4 of his last 17

Derozan has made 2 of his last 14 (after that one game where he hit 3)

Dejounte has made 4 of his last 20

Aldridge has made 4 of his last 20

Vassell has made 4 of his last 19

Patty has made 14 of his last 50

[TimDunkem]

Motherfuckers really believed DDR would start taking and making 3s. bwahahaha

[Robz4000]

Someone posted a pic with the Spurs' three point percentage as the season has worn on. Suffice to say it was a downward trend; something like 42% to 27%.

[MultiTroll]

Pet?

me stupid, explain please
While the writeups will almost always reflect negative play, for some reason a few of his pet players are often over graded and virtually never given a F.
Patty, LMA, Bryn Forbes, Pop.

No group is ever going to 100% agree on Grade write ups. That is in part what makes them fun.

[Sugus]

Motherfuckers really believed DDR would start taking and making 3s. bwahahaha

Yeah, I didn't buy that for a second. He's done that multiple times in his career now; it's clear that, no matter how well he seems to be shooting 3's (and is willing to take them) for any period of time, he'll always eventually regress to who he truly is as a player: an inefficient midrange shooter.

I want off Mr DeRozan's wild ride, tbh.

[Degoat]

If Demar is the problem, if LMA is the problem... WTF are the spurs suppose to do? Trading them now would be dumb considering there value isn’t high, we lose cap space if we do a trade that is a lateral move

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Keldon and Lonnie’s grade should be switched like a few folks said already. At least he was aggressive and hustled unlike Lonnie.

honestly it should’ve been more “F” grades after that awful game.

[Joseph Kony]

how does Keldon get an F and LMA gets a D-? :lol DD and LA were huge Fs last night

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

While the writeups will almost always reflect negative play, for some reason a few of his pet players are often over graded and virtually never given a F.
Patty, LMA, Bryn Forbes, Pop.

No group is ever going to 100% agree on Grade write ups. That is in part what makes them fun.

thank you for the clarification :tu

[emanueldavidginobili]

Thanks for the grades.

Having LA a D- and Keldon an F is asinine. :lol

LA a 7 time All Star, multiple All NBA appearences veteran player and he goes out there and scores 4 points and grabs 3 rebounds with about 7% effort given last night. Then you have a kid playing his 32nd career game, who definitely had a bad game btw go to the free throw line 11 times grab 8 rebounds and actually gave an honest effort but some how got a lower grade than LA.

[siraulo23]

Motherfuckers really believed DDR would start taking and making 3s. bwahahaha

:lmao

but but re-sign derozan he added threes to his game :lol

[FutureMan]

Probably the worst Spurs game I’ve ever seen. I’m pretty sure middle schoolers could’ve out shot them. If they can’t learn how to make 3 pointers, and fast, this seasons record is going to plummet.

[lefty]

Aaand the Knicks just beat them

[LakerHater]

Lonnie deserved an F also!