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Dre_7
11-10-2005, 10:16 PM
What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?

Hate speech? Prejudice? What are other words that come to mind?

Yonivore
11-10-2005, 11:04 PM
criticism.

exstatic
11-10-2005, 11:17 PM
What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?

Hate speech? Prejudice? What are other words that come to mind?

GOP talking points.

gtownspur
11-11-2005, 12:44 AM
It's called more generally,"Standard liberal response to anyone left of Bloody Mary and King Herod on abortion".

Nbadan
11-11-2005, 03:25 AM
GOP talking points.

:lmao

Nbadan
11-11-2005, 03:32 AM
What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?

Hate speech? Prejudice? What are other words that come to mind?

Chauvinism

narrow-mindedness

discrimination

bigotry

intolerance

injustice

unfairness

small-mindedness

fanaticism


need more?

Dre_7
11-21-2005, 09:22 PM
anyone who is a "creationist" is a dumbass, period.

Thanks for giving me an example, mookie.

So, you dont know me, never met me, yet because I choose to believe that we were created by a God, rather than through evolution, I am a dumbass??

Thanks mookie!

Nbadan
11-21-2005, 09:32 PM
So, you dont know me, never met me, yet because I choose to believe that we were created by a God, rather than through evolution, I am a dumbass??

Why do Evolution and Creationism have to be mutually exclusive again?

Dre_7
11-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Why do Evolution and Creationism have to be mutually exclusive again?

I never said that. I just said that that is what I personally believe. If someone doesnt believe what I believe than thats up to them. Thats their freedom. I wont call them a dumbass just cuz they dont believe as I do. I have nothing but love (or at least I try) for all people. Even those that dont believe what I believe.

The point is, me as a Christian, I dont like the fact that someone is going to call me a dumbass cuz of my beliefs. I dont think non-Christians are dumbasses. That was the point of my original post.

"What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?"

ALVAREZ6
11-21-2005, 09:49 PM
gayness

Nbadan
11-21-2005, 10:03 PM
"What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?"

Given that 85% of American ascribe to some sort of Christian religion, your question should be, what would it be called if someone belonging to a certain group talked negatively about that group? shouldn't it?

JoeChalupa
11-21-2005, 10:14 PM
constructive criticism
telling it like it is
stating your opinion
frustration
"the way I see it...."
Not pulling any punches
left handed column...
gut reaction

and also all of the above as listed by Dan....

Nbadan
11-21-2005, 10:17 PM
In a way this is like the whole Bill Cosby thing were he comes out criticizing Black youth for dressing like hoods and talking ghetto. Bill probably has good intentions, but everytime he does it, it just sounds condecending to blacks.

gtownspur
11-21-2005, 10:59 PM
^well, so what. If they like to dress hip hop, they will be percieved by what the hip hop culture's all about; excess, drug dealing, kids out of wedlock, guns, and crime. Bill has tried to portray african americans as polite, ambitous, goal oriented, law abiding, wanting to integrate, and respectful. What Bill said in public is nothing new than what blacks have been hearing behind closed doors by their pastors and clergy.

Quit acting as if all the black community is made of is rude, brassy, hip hop, poor and spiteful people. THey are a very diverse population.

FromWayDowntown
11-21-2005, 11:07 PM
Thanks for giving me an example, mookie.

So, you dont know me, never met me, yet because I choose to believe that we were created by a God, rather than through evolution, I am a dumbass??

Thanks mookie!


mookie has Charles Krauthamer on his side in this one:



Phony Theory, False Conflict
'Intelligent Design' Foolishly Pits Evolution Against Faith

By Charles Krauthammer

Friday, November 18, 2005; Page A23

Because every few years this country, in its infinite tolerance, insists on hearing yet another appeal of the Scopes monkey trial, I feel obliged to point out what would otherwise be superfluous: that the two greatest scientists in the history of our species were Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein, and they were both religious.

Newton's religion was traditional. He was a staunch believer in Christianity and a member of the Church of England. Einstein's was a more diffuse belief in a deity who set the rules for everything that occurs in the universe.

Neither saw science as an enemy of religion. On the contrary. "He believed he was doing God's work," James Gleick wrote in his recent biography of Newton. Einstein saw his entire vocation -- understanding the workings of the universe -- as an attempt to understand the mind of God.

Not a crude and willful God who pushes and pulls and does things according to whim. Newton was trying to supplant the view that first believed the sun's motion around the earth was the work of Apollo and his chariot, and later believed it was a complicated system of cycles and epicycles, one tacked upon the other every time some wobble in the orbit of a planet was found. Newton's God was not at all so crude. The laws of his universe were so simple, so elegant, so economical and therefore so beautiful that they could only be divine.

Which brings us to Dover, Pa., Pat Robertson, the Kansas State Board of Education, and a fight over evolution that is so anachronistic and retrograde as to be a national embarrassment.

Dover distinguished itself this Election Day by throwing out all eight members of its school board who tried to impose "intelligent design" -- today's tarted-up version of creationism -- on the biology curriculum. Pat Robertson then called the wrath of God down upon the good people of Dover for voting "God out of your city." Meanwhile, in Kansas, the school board did a reverse Dover, mandating the teaching of skepticism about evolution and forcing intelligent design into the statewide biology curriculum.

Let's be clear. Intelligent design may be interesting as theology, but as science it is a fraud. It is a self-enclosed, tautological "theory" whose only holding is that when there are gaps in some area of scientific knowledge -- in this case, evolution -- they are to be filled by God. It is a "theory" that admits that evolution and natural selection explain such things as the development of drug resistance in bacteria and other such evolutionary changes within species but also says that every once in a while God steps into this world of constant and accumulating change and says, "I think I'll make me a lemur today." A "theory" that violates the most basic requirement of anything pretending to be science -- that it be empirically disprovable. How does one empirically disprove the proposition that God was behind the lemur, or evolution -- or behind the motion of the tides or the "strong force" that holds the atom together?

In order to justify the farce that intelligent design is science, Kansas had to corrupt the very definition of science, dropping the phrase " natural explanations for what we observe in the world around us," thus unmistakably implying -- by fiat of definition, no less -- that the supernatural is an integral part of science. This is an insult both to religion and science.

The school board thinks it is indicting evolution by branding it an "unguided process" with no "discernible direction or goal." This is as ridiculous as indicting Newtonian mechanics for positing an "unguided process" by which Earth is pulled around the sun every year without discernible purpose. What is chemistry if not an "unguided process" of molecular interactions without "purpose"? Or are we to teach children that God is behind every hydrogen atom in electrolysis?

He may be, of course. But that discussion is the province of religion, not science. The relentless attempt to confuse the two by teaching warmed-over creationism as science can only bring ridicule to religion, gratuitously discrediting a great human endeavor and our deepest source of wisdom precisely about those questions -- arguably, the most important questions in life -- that lie beyond the material.

How ridiculous to make evolution the enemy of God. What could be more elegant, more simple, more brilliant, more economical, more creative, indeed more divine than a planet with millions of life forms, distinct and yet interactive, all ultimately derived from accumulated variations in a single double-stranded molecule, pliable and fecund enough to give us mollusks and mice, Newton and Einstein? Even if it did give us the Kansas State Board of Education, too.

Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111701304.html)

gtownspur
11-21-2005, 11:12 PM
Im sure Townhall columnist and conservative Krauthamer is all mookie needs.:rolleyes

George W. Bush
11-21-2005, 11:42 PM
What would it be called if one were to talk negatively about a certain group of people?

Hate speech? Prejudice? What are other words that come to mind?


Do you mean negative in a constructive way or negative in a hateful way?

That makes all the difference.

One is a man with an opinion about how to fix things that he thinks are wrong.

The other is a prejudiced insecure asshole.

Can I get a YEEEHAAAWWW!

DarkReign
11-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Do you mean negative in a constructive way or negative in a hateful way?

That makes all the difference.

One is a man with an opinion about how to fix things that he thinks are wrong.

The other is a prejudiced insecure asshole.

Can I get a YEEEHAAAWWW!

OMG...I am agreeing with GMB.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Mr. Peabody
11-22-2005, 02:18 PM
^well, so what. If they like to dress hip hop, they will be percieved by what the hip hop culture's all about; excess, drug dealing, kids out of wedlock, guns, and crime. Bill has tried to portray african americans as polite, ambitous, goal oriented, law abiding, wanting to integrate, and respectful. What Bill said in public is nothing new than what blacks have been hearing behind closed doors by their pastors and clergy.

Quit acting as if all the black community is made of is rude, brassy, hip hop, poor and spiteful people. THey are a very diverse population.

Bill Cosby is an Oreo who has lost touch with his own culture. Success does that to people. It's easy to look down on the rest of society when you're a successful doctor and your wife is a successful lawyer and all your kids go off to Hillman College.

DarkReign
11-22-2005, 02:31 PM
Bill Cosby is an Oreo who has lost touch with his own culture. Success does that to people. It's easy to look down on the rest of society when you're a successful doctor and your wife is a successful lawyer and all your kids go off to Hillman College.

:rollin

Oh, Gee!!
11-22-2005, 02:46 PM
What Bill said in public is nothing new than what blacks have been hearing behind closed doors by their pastors and clergy.

Quit acting as if all the black community is made of is rude, brassy, hip hop, poor and spiteful people. THey are a very diverse population.

Gtown, ambassador to the black community

smeagol
11-22-2005, 03:14 PM
Bill Cosby is an Oreo who has lost touch with his own culture. Success does that to people. It's easy to look down on the rest of society when you're a successful doctor and your wife is a successful lawyer and all your kids go off to Hillman College.
His own culture? Care to describe it?

Oh, Gee!!
11-22-2005, 03:18 PM
do you not watch BET?

gtownspur
11-23-2005, 12:22 AM
^^Yeah! anyone who watches BET is an expert on african american culture, just like Univision is to the hispanic one.:rolleyes

Nbadan
11-24-2005, 05:28 AM
His own culture? Care to describe it?

Shit, if you wanna learn about black culture in America, join the Oprah book club.

:lol