Is Greek Freak going to regret his contract?

[MultiTroll]

Such a low IQ team in big games.

I don't see a Championship anytime soon, if at all.

I don't think he is of the same ilk as modern day players that pout until they are traded -and get their way.

But.....couple more years of this is he gonna want a Championship or be satisfied with mega millions and All Pro teams?

[Spurtacular]

He stayed in Milwaukee? Yea, he'll be punished on the NBA screwing over small market teams alone.

2000. Milwaukee would've beat Philly in five in a fair series.

[Robz4000]

He's as much to blame as anyone. Dude hasn't improved his game the past three/four seasons.

[lefty]

He stayed in Milwaukee? Yea, he'll be punished on the NBA screwing over small market teams alone.

2000. Milwaukee would've beat Philly in five in a fair series.

The Bucks got skullfucked by Stern that year

[Jules_Winnfield]

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[KobesAchilles]

Hard to regret that much money when you can just pull a bitch move and demand a trade. Shit Harden got his ass traded in one day and he's still making his 43 million a year

[i'm_still_beta]

He's as much to blame as anyone. Dude hasn't improved his game the past three/four seasons.

[koriwhat]

Hard to regret that much money when you can just pull a bitch move and demand a trade. Shit Harden got his ass traded in one day and he's still making his 43 million a year

It's the new new NBA. The Greek Freak will most likely go the same way as Leonard and Harden unfortunately.

[Kurgan]

Too much money to turn down. He's young enough where he can ring chase after the contract.

[daslicer]

Too much money to turn down. He's young enough where he can ring chase after the contract.

Pretty much this. I also don't think he worries much about what people think about him. He's been through worse since he grew up as a refugee. Stuff like that gives you perspective and I'm sure he knows how good he has it regardless of whether he ever wins.

[Spurtacular]

Too much money to turn down. He's young enough where he can ring chase after the contract.

Ring chasing is f'ing stupid. Take the money unless you're a Ginobili and actually play for the love of the game.

[DMC]

Leonard should be called the Geek Freak

[MultiTroll]

42/12/4/3 on 70% plus shooting and good D.

He's surrounded by incompetence.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

42/12/4/3 on 70% plus shooting and good D.

He's surrounded by incompetence.

He really didn't get much help tonight.
I've said that if Middleton is your number 2, and has a maximum contract...you are fucked as a team. Middleton is good, a solid player, but not a max guy.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

He's as much to blame as anyone. Dude hasn't improved his game the past three/four seasons.

He has literally improved almost ever year. Outside of shooting FTs, what more could you want from him?

[MultiTroll]

He has literally improved almost ever year. Outside of shooting FTs, what more could you want from him?
This.

I mean sure there are aspects he can work on.
But put Durbetta, Stephina, Chrissy Paul, Load Management, Booker and any other *top* NBA player on this Bucks squad and see if they do any better.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

This.

I mean sure there are aspects he can work on.
But put Durbetta, Stephina, Chrissy Paul, Load Management, Booker and any other *top* NBA player on this Bucks squad and see if they do any better.

I think Bud needs some blame tbh. Giannis' reputation took a hit the last couple years. Giannis might not ever be a 3 point threat/jump shooting threat. It's not his game. He is the most imposing post player in the NBA right now, quit trying to make him shoot jump shots. He needs to be surrounded by shooters at all times. The defense should have to choose, guard the three ball, or double Giannis in the paint. It should be poison for opposing defenses, a nightmare!
I liken the criticism of Giannis to someone saying Kevin Durant cant play in the post and rebound as a traditional big, it makes no sense. Use a player to their strengths and build the team around the superstar.
That being said Giannis needs to be able to hit in the mid 60's from the charity stripe. No one disagrees there.

[Robz4000]

He has literally improved almost ever year. Outside of shooting FTs, what more could you want from him?

He's literally the same player he was a few years ago. Great effort by him tonight and his teammates were trash, but his lack of shooting is holding him back from being a generational talent.

[jimbo]

Should have went to Miami :cry

[Spurtacular]

I think there's an understanding that with two years on a contract, a star player can say "I want out", and the team is to accommodate him.
The league ain't doing nothing to quell that practice either.

[Texas_Ranger]

if i am a team, i aint afraid of the other team thats lead by Giannis.

[Rummpd]

If Bucks rally as other teams have done in this weird season then this thread will look sublime. He is a great player in so many regards that if the others even step up at all it is possible. If not at least he is a loyal and not peripatetic superstar.

[MultiTroll]

if i am a team, i aint afraid of the other team thats lead by Giannis.
A team should not be afraid of Giannis surrounding cast.

Do you think Clitter Paul was better then Freak last night?
Of course not.

[Dirks_Finale]

He really didn't get much help tonight.
I've said that if Middleton is your number 2, and has a maximum contract...you are fucked as a team. Middleton is good, a solid player, but not a max guy.

Middleton is just not consistent enough. They need a legit #2 and somebody like Middleton leading the 2nd unit.

[Dirks_Finale]

Should have went to Miami :cry


He will end up in LA like everybody else, tbh.

[MultiTroll]

Middleton is just not consistent enough. They need a legit #2 and somebody like Middleton leading the 2nd unit.
Understatement.
He really sucked last night and most disturbing was several complete lack of hustle plays.

But ya when he is on he is good.
Nothing a #2 or even #3 shoud be. It's almost like he should be in a 6th man role on a legit contender.

[baseline bum]

Why would he regret getting paid supermax? Leonard, George, Davis, and Harden have already shown contracts only bind the team, not the player. If he wants out he can just start acting like a faggot and force his way to LA or Brooklyn or Miami just like George, Davis, Harden pulled off.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

He's literally the same player he was a few years ago. Great effort by him tonight and his teammates were trash, but his lack of shooting is holding him back from being a generational talent.

Back to back MVP's and a DPOY award. I think he's already well on his way to cementing himself as a generational talent.
I don't recall Shaq being told to stretch the court. Or Hakeem for that matter. Giannis can't be stopped in the paint and that's where he should be.

[ambchang]

Giannis is another casualty of people not understanding individual brilliance vs. team success. Just like what happened to Hakeem (before 94 and 95), Robinson, Stockton, Barkley, and Lebron (before Miami).

[MultiTroll]

Why would he regret getting paid supermax? Leonard, George, Davis, and Harden have already shown contracts only bind the team, not the player. If he wants out he can just start acting like a faggot and force his way to LA or Brooklyn or Miami just like George, Davis, Harden pulled off.

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Pretty much this. I also don't think he worries much about what people think about him. He's been through worse since he grew up as a refugee. Stuff like that gives you perspective and I'm sure he knows how good he has it regardless of whether he ever wins.
Freak seems to have better values / morals / character then the bitches you mentioned and the NBA players at large.

[Robz4000]

Back to back MVP's and a DPOY award. I think he's already well on his way to cementing himself as a generational talent.
I don't recall Shaq being told to stretch the court. Or Hakeem for that matter. Giannis can't be stopped in the paint and that's where he should be.

They didn't play in an era where shooting mattered this much. Unfortunately being able to take and make a high volume of 3 point shots is a must for this day and age. He'll continue to put up gaudy numbers but will never win a championship as a #1 option.

[MultiTroll]

^ So if Freak was switched out with Ayton the Suns would not title this year?

[baseline bum]

This below:

Freak seems to have better values / morals / character then the bitches you mentioned and the NBA players at large.

People used to say the same shit about Kawhi. Oh he drives a ten year old car, he doesn't give a shit about the bright lights of LA/NYC/Miami/etc.

[MultiTroll]

People used to say the same shit about Kawhi. Oh he drives a ten year old car, he doesn't give a shit about the bright lights of LA/NYC/Miami/etc.
good point.

[Robz4000]

^ So if Freak was switched out with Ayton the Suns would not title this year?

Ayton is a center tbh, nor is he the #1 option. If you put Devin Booker on the Bucks instead of Middleton they win the title easily.

[Rummpd]

^ So if Freak was switched out with Ayton the Suns would not title this year?

This

[Killakobe81]

He really didn't get much help tonight.
I've said that if Middleton is your number 2, and has a maximum contract...you are fucked as a team. Middleton is good, a solid player, but not a max guy.

Agreed. If he your #2 your #1 gotta be elite and your #3 gotta be better than what we have seen out of Holiday so far

[Rummpd]

Giannis said Durant top player in NBA then is going out and shows he also belongs in discussion and without being a Diva.

[LkrFan]

Such a low IQ team in big games.

I don't see a Championship anytime soon, if at all.

I don't think he is of the same ilk as modern day players that pout until they are traded -and get their way.

But.....couple more years of this is he gonna want a Championship or be satisfied with mega millions and All Pro teams?

40 and 10 B2B. Not even the great Jim Dunan did that in the playoffs :wow

[Rummpd]

40 and 10 B2B. Not even the great Jim Dunan did that in the playoffs :wow

Shaq did and Duncan still far greater than Shaq

[R. DeMurre]

Giannis doesn't seem to have a regretful type of personality. I'm guessing he'll be good with his decision. I'll still always wonder what would've happened if he'd joined Doncic in Dallas to form a Euro Super Team... probably would've been pretty amazing.

This thread shows how impossible it is to please all fans. If he joins another superstar, he would've gotten criticized for it. He stays with Milwaukee, and people say he's dumb, never going to win a chip, etc... some critics are just never happy.

[Mark Celibate]

Ayton is a center tbh, nor is he the #1 option. If you put Devin Booker on the Bucks instead of Middleton they win the title easily.

hey man, saw your post about the xanax and being stuck in retail..hope things are working out for you man...

[Robz4000]

hey man, saw your post about the xanax and being stuck in retail..hope things are working out for you man...

:lol

[Mark Celibate]

:lol

rofl that thread took quite the turn

[MultiTroll]

Why would he regret getting paid supermax? Leonard, George, Davis, and Harden have already shown contracts only bind the team, not the player. If he wants out he can just start acting like a faggot and force his way to LA or Brooklyn or Miami just like George, Davis, Harden pulled off.
Assuming the Bucks finish this In the "We'll never know for sure dept"....

Giannis Antetokounmpo Made A Promise 7 Years Ago: "I'll Never Leave The Team And City Of Milwaukee 'Until We Build The Team To A Championship Level" (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-made-a-promise-7-years-ago-i-ll-never-leave-the-team-and-city-of-milwaukee-until-we-build-the-team-to-a-championship-level/ar-AAMk62Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

Also say what one wants about Nephew he did help deliver 2 Chips before splitting.

[baseline bum]

Assuming the Bucks finish this In the "We'll never know for sure dept"....

Giannis Antetokounmpo Made A Promise 7 Years Ago: "I'll Never Leave The Team And City Of Milwaukee 'Until We Build The Team To A Championship Level" (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-made-a-promise-7-years-ago-i-ll-never-leave-the-team-and-city-of-milwaukee-until-we-build-the-team-to-a-championship-level/ar-AAMk62Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

Also say what one wants about Nephew he did help deliver 2 Chips before splitting.

??? He won one here as a member of an ensemble cast. Then he up and quit when he was the star of the team.

[MultiTroll]

??? He won one here as a member of an ensemble cast. Then he up and quit when he was the star of the team.
I said "he helped deliver" 2 Chips. He did.
Compare that to who you mentioned George, Davis and Harden and they didn't deliver any Chips.

He didn't quit in 2017 he got one of the all time cheap shots by Zaza. Was MVP leading the Spurs to a potential 6th.

[baseline bum]

I said "he helped deliver" 2 Chips. He did.
Compare that to who you mentioned George, Davis and Harden and they didn't deliver any Chips.

He didn't quit in 2017 he got one of the all time cheap shots by Zaza. Was MVP leading the Spurs to a potential 6th.

He split after 1, wtf are you talking about.

[Neo.]

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i dont know how to count

[MultiTroll]

I thought perhaps you two were referring to his purported burning of Toronto too.

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[ThaBigFundamental21]

He's literally the same player he was a few years ago. Great effort by him tonight and his teammates were trash, but his lack of shooting is holding him back from being a generational talent.

Same player? Good for him. World champion! Finals MVP! 2 time NBA MVP. And one of the greatest finals games of all time. And he did it dominating the paint! Not shooting jumpshoots like you said he needed to do!

[Robz4000]

Same player? Good for him. Word champion! Finals MVP! 2 time NBA MVP. And one of the greatest finals games of all time. And he did it dominating the paint! Not shooting jumpshoots like you said he needed to do!

What can I say, he proved me wrong. Let's see if he can do it against better competition.

[LkrFan]

Such a low IQ team in big games.

I don't see a Championship anytime soon, if at all.

I don't think he is of the same ilk as modern day players that pout until they are traded -and get their way.

But.....couple more years of this is he gonna want a Championship or be satisfied with mega millions and All Pro teams?

So much fail in this post. -250 points son :lol

[Rosewood]

So many bad takes in here :lol

[Mitch]

So much fail in this post. -250 points son :lol

Don't pick on the mentally ill, Ernesto, faggs isn't the sharpest tool in the shed :lol

[MultiTroll]

So much fail in this post. -250 points son :lol
:lol Show me where you, Trollwood or Bitch posted on this thread that the Bucks would title.
Oh that's right, you didn't.

As to low IQ Bucks, totally true. They came so close to choking games away but Freak saved them Duncan style combined with low IQ Chrissy Paul choke per par.

[LkrFan]

Don't pick on the mentally ill, Ernesto, faggs isn't the sharpest tool in the shed :lol

:lol

[MultiTroll]

^ :cry Greek Freak didn't go to the Lakers or Lakers North. :cry

You're gonna have to do a lot more log off / log on Flaker accounts to deal with the Real MVP in the coming years.
Not sure you'll even know the feeling a non ref aided Championship.

[MultiTroll]

Giannis Antetokounmpo wants another NBA title, even if that isn't in Milwaukee (basketballinsiders.com) (https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/giannis-antetokounmpo-said-he-wants-another-nba-title-even-if-that-isnt-in-milwaukee/)

Summer of 25 Greak Freak could be, not will be available as an UFA.
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Wama and Greak Freak kicking ass and taking names Timmy Duncs and DRob style.

[Bill_Brasky]

NBA = f:lolcked when Giannis comes to the Spurs

[ambchang]

He’s going to the warriors or the lakers.

If he can somehow force a trade to Dallas we don’t have a stab at either him or Luka.

[Barfunk]

Just like I said not too long ago unfortunately. He's no different than the other douchebag superstars that want to go to LA, Miami, Golden State, etc. He wants so bad to be accepted by the mainstream, and since ESPN and the like brainwash the hell out of the general NBA fanbase that it's one of the big markets or bust, he now wants out.

Plus he wants an easier path to get rings instead of the hard way in Milwaukee since the big markets get all the calls, for the most part of course. Notice how this problem doesn't really exist in the NFL, College, MLB etc. That's because ESPN and the like don't really ignore the small market teams in those leagues and therefore doesn't brainwash the dummies into believing it's not cool to play for a small market.

Big stars go to smaller markets all the time in those aforementioned leagues, but all of a sudden in the NBA, it's a problem. Again, if you pay attention closely, the media (ESPN and the like) decide this.

[MultiTroll]

Just like I said not too long ago unfortunately. He's no different than the other douchebag superstars that want to go to LA, Miami, Golden State, etc. He wants so bad to be accepted by the mainstream, and since ESPN and the like brainwash the hell out of the general NBA fanbase that it's one of the big markets or bust, he now wants out.

Plus he wants an easier path to get rings instead of the hard way in Milwaukee since the big markets get all the calls, for the most part of course.
No comparison to Freak with Durbetta, Harden, Irving, Westchuck etc.
Freak is doing everything he can to help the Bucks get a Chip.

[TD 21]

Just like I said not too long ago unfortunately. He's no different than the other douchebag superstars that want to go to LA, Miami, Golden State, etc. He wants so bad to be accepted by the mainstream, and since ESPN and the like brainwash the hell out of the general NBA fanbase that it's one of the big markets or bust, he now wants out.

Plus he wants an easier path to get rings instead of the hard way in Milwaukee since the big markets get all the calls, for the most part of course. Notice how this problem doesn't really exist in the NFL, College, MLB etc. That's because ESPN and the like don't really ignore the small market teams in those leagues and therefore doesn't brainwash the dummies into believing it's not cool to play for a small market.

Big stars go to smaller markets all the time in those aforementioned leagues, but all of a sudden in the NBA, it's a problem. Again, if you pay attention closely, the media (ESPN and the like) decide this.

Increasingly Americanized in all the worst ways since winning the championship, he's trying to get out ahead of/win the looming PR battle because he realizes the Bucks are probably not good enough now and are tapped out as far as assets/upside.

No chance he'd come to a small media/non glamor market like the Spurs and as he ages play second fiddle to a big who could become better than him since that wouldn't help his precious "legacy".

The Thunder are the best fit. They can offer Giddey, Williams or Wallace, quantity and quality draft capital and financial flexibility, plus they're out of conference, have a superstar who can be the primary initiator, a floor spacing rim protector and wing defenders.

[DeadlyDynasty]

No comparison to Freak with Durbetta, Harden, Irving, Westchuck etc.
Freak is doing everything he can to help the Bucks get a Chip.
This. I mean come on, he’s given one of the most anonymous and negligible sports franchises of the last half century 10 good years, a chip, 2 MVPs, and more than they could ever hope for. He’s also one of the few athletes left who gives full effort every second he’s on the court.

The man has paid his dues and done Milwaukee right. He has nothing left to prove individually so I admire that he’s prioritizing winning and competing

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Just like I said not too long ago unfortunately. He's no different than the other douchebag superstars that want to go to LA, Miami, Golden State, etc. He wants so bad to be accepted by the mainstream, and since ESPN and the like brainwash the hell out of the general NBA fanbase that it's one of the big markets or bust, he now wants out.

Plus he wants an easier path to get rings instead of the hard way in Milwaukee since the big markets get all the calls, for the most part of course. Notice how this problem doesn't really exist in the NFL, College, MLB etc. That's because ESPN and the like don't really ignore the small market teams in those leagues and therefore doesn't brainwash the dummies into believing it's not cool to play for a small market.

Big stars go to smaller markets all the time in those aforementioned leagues, but all of a sudden in the NBA, it's a problem. Again, if you pay attention closely, the media (ESPN and the like) decide this.


The Super-conferences in college sports have really created a divide that I'd say is far more pronounced than anything you see in the NBA. Any fan of a mid-major school can tell you it sucks to be the indentured servants to the power conference leagues. You'll never see a team from a conference like the WAC win a national title again the way BYU did in 1984. Money drives college sports, too, and those big TV contracts impact everything at the college level. It's all about the dollar, and some get rich while most get poor.

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The Super-conferences in college sports have really created a divide that I'd say is far more pronounced than anything you see in the NBA. Any fan of a mid-major school can tell you it sucks to be the indentured servants to the power conference leagues. You'll never see a team from a conference like the WAC win a national title again the way BYU did in 1984. Money drives college sports, too, and those big TV contracts impact everything at the college level. It's all about the dollar, and some get rich while most get poor.

It primarily WAS Black kids (Whites to a lesser extent numerically as well as quality of talent (zenith to passable) being indentured for a number of years (1-4) by White men. How it was able to exist to such an extent is an abomination. And quite frankly it was (the Black) who got it turned about to the station we're entering at this time in history. How these kids were kept in "chains" while strange men were making trillions on them is blot upon the land. Can you imagine a 16-year-old brilliant prodigy walking out of high school and say IBM tells him..."Sure, c'mon, work for us, but only for goody bags and free lunches, till you're 18 years old. Let's go! Hurry up." (we don't want to waste 1 second during the next 2 years while we glean every free dime from this kid, do we, boss?)

Same in college sports; A kid laboring for 4 years (his prime's prime) for nothing but free exciting plane trips (via coach) and the attendant goody bags and a neat motel/hotel room (coming and going).