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boutons_deux
02-01-2021, 02:55 PM
For more than half a century, conservatives have wanted to eradicate New York Times v. Sullivan, the 1964 Supreme Court decision that is the nation's most important First Amendment case.

If the Supreme Court invalidates NYT, federal judges—including the 230 appointed by President Trump—will preside over more libel suits against journalists he calls "the enemy of the people."

Those judges can carry out Trump's promise to "open up…libel laws…[and] have people sue you like you've never got sued before."

Anyone who makes factual errors when criticizing government or accusing a person of misconduct could be dragged into court and left destitute by a jury's verdict or legal bills.

The Supreme Court unanimously reversed the jury award in NYT and

required that a public official prove that "the statement was made with 'actual malice'

-- that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not."

The "actual-malice" standard focuses on what defendants believed and not what they did.

The First Amendment—which did not protect even mild criticism of government or public officials during the founding era—is an example of how fundamental rights needed time to develop.

https://www.rawstory.com/palin-v-new-york-times

btw, Sullivan was an Alabama dude bitching out a NYT ad by black people,

explains why racist conservatives want Sullivan overturned

spurraider21
02-15-2022, 02:48 PM
:lol

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Adam Lambert
02-15-2022, 02:58 PM
1st_Amendment_casually_stepping_over_landmine.jpg

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02-15-2022, 03:24 PM
:lol

1493669565800267783

What choice did they have, 21, after the judge assured the world he was dismissing it regardless of the their deliberations/verdict?

Ef-man
02-15-2022, 03:40 PM
What choice did they have, 21, after the judge assured the world he was dismissing it regardless of the their deliberations/verdict?

lmobjectiondidnotworkao!!!!!

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02-15-2022, 04:09 PM
lmobjectiondidnotworkao!!!!!

lmemulatedao!!!

spurraider21
02-15-2022, 04:32 PM
What choice did they have, 21, after the judge assured the world he was dismissing it regardless of the their deliberations/verdict?
if they found NYT liable and it was dismissed... palin could just appeal the dismissal and have the jury verdict applied if successful

but oh well, she's a double loser anyway

Ef-man
02-15-2022, 04:54 PM
lmemulatedao!!!

lmSarahPalinfailedao!!!!!!!

Thread
02-15-2022, 04:59 PM
lmSarahPalinfailedao!!!!!!!

lmemulatedao!!!

Ef-man
02-15-2022, 05:52 PM
lmemulatedao!!!

Nice that you found a coping mechanism to help you.

Does it work on others when you run out of things to say and walls close in on you?

boutons_deux
02-15-2022, 06:09 PM
Conservatives/fascist billionaies will finance appeal to SCOTUS where at least Thomas and Gorsuch are ready to overturn Sullivan.

Sullivan overturned would intimidate media, everybody from criticizing public figures and govt, enabling the approaching oligarchy/Repug Orban-ist fascism to operate with impunity.

Sullivan will be road kill as SCOTUS6 annuls stare decisis on any issue that impedes America from being governed by oligarchy/Christian Nationalist fascism.

America is fucked and unfuckable.

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02-15-2022, 06:55 PM
Nice that you found a coping mechanism to help you.

Does it work on others when you run out of things to say and walls close in on you?

It's worked fine since I came on line in '97.

tee, hee.

boutons_deux
02-15-2022, 07:52 PM
Andy Borowitz (https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz?__cft__[0]=AZU94cKZaCU3gNiX2g6pkKuvboZCgQtkCIYmxZ8Ce6JL5TpH5 Yn6MMOace1OIrOLoEBELKd_ZpuyBz5f93X9BsP8fdTlusrQO6R I2Y-bH_bRykxAUqBRf2u0KUlQtnwTf3YcweHJ2pTKYKbgB5fUmFKPD-97Dj2PMyhGgJ50DhPQUNwa3tV0RWS6lBAHuR87ySk&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R)

Nation Celebrates Sarah Palin’s Return to Obscurity

Will Hunting
02-15-2022, 11:24 PM
Journalists are the enemy of the people - Trump saying they were was a rare W

Winehole23
02-16-2022, 11:32 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrID1wVcAQlGIh?format=jpg&name=900x900

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02-16-2022, 02:03 PM
Journalists are the enemy of the people - Trump saying they were was a rare W

President Trump had many "rare W." That fact alone is what makes President Trump the greatest President to ever walk the face of the earth.

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02-16-2022, 02:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrID1wVcAQlGIh?format=jpg&name=900x900

No more girl left. Just the woman now.

Fuckin' shame.