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i'm_still_beta
02-08-2021, 11:12 AM
... shitted on haters as badly as Tom Brady this season?
And yes, a lot of people said before this season that he's nothing without Bill and that he's overrated system qb that can only dink and dunk. He was pretty good in Tampa's vertical offense this season
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 11:24 AM
joe montana is 2nd in NFL history with 16 postseason wins
Tom Brady has 16 postseason wins since turning 37
Silver&Black
02-08-2021, 11:25 AM
DAF86
Trill Clinton
02-08-2021, 11:45 AM
Mayweather. His haters swore he would lose damn near every fight and paid at least $79.99 of their hard earned money for the PPV only to be disappointed that he won.
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 11:54 AM
Mayweather. His haters swore he would lose damn near every fight and paid at least $79.99 of their hard earned money for the PPV only to be disappointed that he won.
i never found myself enjoying any of his fights that i saw, but yeah there was a lot of that
Silver&Black
02-08-2021, 11:55 AM
joe montana is 2nd in NFL history with 16 postseason wins
Tom Brady has 16 postseason wins since turning 37
Brady has defeated more different TEAMS than Montana has wins. It's crazy. It's time to stop the GOAT talk in Football, and start the conversation is he the best Athlete in any sport ever. Only people more accomplished in team sports are Bill Russel and the old Yankees legends Then you go to individual sports like golf and Boxing. It's so hard to compare those though. I mean is Tiger Woods' or The Golden Bear's million Majors more impressive? Is Mayweather's or Ali's resume more impressive?
In TEAM sports......Brady is the GOAT. It's not even debatable at this point. If you deny this simple truth you're just a blind fucking hater. I can see getting lucky a couple times, but the dude has 7 rings now. It's an insult if you try to question all 7.
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 11:56 AM
Brady has defeated more different TEAMS than Montana has wins. It's crazy. It's time to stop the GOAT talk in Football, and start the conversation is he the best Athlete in any sport ever. Only people more accomplished in team sports are Bill Russel and the old Yankees legends Then you go to individual sports like golf and Boxing. It's so hard to compare those though. I mean is Tiger Woods' or The Golden Bear's million Majors more impressive? Is Mayweather's or Ali's resume more impressive?
In TEAM sports......Brady is the GOAT. It's not even debatable at this point. If you deny this simple truth you're just a blind fucking hater. I can see getting lucky a couple times, but the dude has 7 rings now. It's an insult if you try to question all 7.
russell's celtics dominated a league with like 8 teams :lol
Silver&Black
02-08-2021, 11:57 AM
russell's celtics dominated a league with like 8 teams :lol
And no free agency....
Silver&Black
02-08-2021, 11:58 AM
And Wilt always shitted on Russell. But, the Celtics always had a better team.
i'm_still_beta
02-08-2021, 12:14 PM
And Wilt always shitted on Russell. But, the Celtics always had a better team.
True tbh. Limited footage shows that. Russ couldn't stop Wilt. But Wilt has no excuse for 1968 and 1969 seasons
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
02-08-2021, 12:35 PM
Tiger Woods
Trainwreck2100
02-08-2021, 01:44 PM
interesting that he won with getting 3/40 from Godwin and Evans
MultiTroll
02-08-2021, 02:21 PM
interesting that he won with getting 3/40 from Godwin and Evans
Sort of.
Here's Tom hooking up with Evans on yet another great play.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1358577834013327360
Darth_Pelican
02-08-2021, 03:35 PM
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Blake
02-08-2021, 06:18 PM
Brady has defeated more different TEAMS than Montana has wins. It's crazy. It's time to stop the GOAT talk in Football, and start the conversation is he the best Athlete in any sport ever. Only people more accomplished in team sports are Bill Russel and the old Yankees legends Then you go to individual sports like golf and Boxing. It's so hard to compare those though. I mean is Tiger Woods' or The Golden Bear's million Majors more impressive? Is Mayweather's or Ali's resume more impressive?
In TEAM sports......Brady is the GOAT. It's not even debatable at this point. If you deny this simple truth you're just a blind fucking hater. I can see getting lucky a couple times, but the dude has 7 rings now. It's an insult if you try to question all 7.
It's hard even to compare football players with other team sports because they don't play both offense and defense. I mean, look how long they get to sit down while in basketball it's not uncommon for the superstars to go all 48 minutes.
I'm good with calling Brady the GOAT football player ever but even then it's a bit unfair because the offense goes through them every down.
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 06:53 PM
if you isolated Brady's career only after turning 37 years old, that alone is in the GOAT conversation.
ties montana's record with 16 playoff wins and 4 superbowl wins :lol
all post-deflatagate
https://i.gyazo.com/8993a721ff17bf92fbec17852a47e396.png
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 06:54 PM
It's hard even to compare football players with other team sports because they don't play both offense and defense. I mean, look how long they get to sit down while in basketball it's not uncommon for the superstars to go all 48 minutes.
I'm good with calling Brady the GOAT football player ever but even then it's a bit unfair because the offense goes through them every down.
dno about "unfair" but football team success does tend to skew toward having good qb play more than any other single position.
Millennial_Messiah
02-08-2021, 08:18 PM
russell's celtics dominated a league with like 8 teams :lol
You won't believe how many people I've had to use that argument with in the last 24 hours alone. :lol the 11 > 7 fuckers can fuckoff, that was a league with 8 teams, zero parity and a total of like 10 black players
Millennial_Messiah
02-08-2021, 08:20 PM
if you isolated Brady's career only after turning 37 years old, that alone is in the GOAT conversation.
ties montana's record with 16 playoff wins and 4 superbowl wins :lol
all post-deflatagate
https://i.gyazo.com/8993a721ff17bf92fbec17852a47e396.png
I'm pretty confident at this point that "Deflategate" was a media hoax. People just don't like dynasties and have to start some shit.
The Patriots won that game like 44-7 IIRC, and that's with Brady throwing a pick near the red zone (the one that led to the controversy). :lol
Millennial_Messiah
02-08-2021, 08:23 PM
It's hard even to compare football players with other team sports because they don't play both offense and defense. I mean, look how long they get to sit down while in basketball it's not uncommon for the superstars to go all 48 minutes.
I'm good with calling Brady the GOAT football player ever but even then it's a bit unfair because the offense goes through them every down.
What era are you referring to? The 90s? Most definitely not today's load management NBA..... :lmao
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 08:25 PM
I'm pretty confident at this point that "Deflategate" was a media hoax. People just don't like dynasties and have to start some shit.
The Patriots won that game like 44-7 IIRC, and that's with Brady throwing a pick near the red zone (the one that led to the controversy). :lol
eh, they were cheating to get a further edge. but its not what made them
Millennial_Messiah
02-08-2021, 08:29 PM
eh, they were cheating to get a further edge. but its not what made them
people liked to complain, but they bent but not broke the rules. Like in the Baltimore game the previous round where they lined the offensive lineman (Vollmer?) as a tight end a few yards away from the offensive line towards the slot and threw him a TD. That wasn't illegal, it was a brilliantly schemed play within the rules. Then, they changed the rules the following offseason. But Harbaugh had no right to complain because even though that trick play was gimmicky, it was within the rules. Belichick himself had to suck it up when he got beat by the Philly Special.
I definitely think Belichick not Brady was much more into the business of cheating.
The tuck rule game was a bad call for sure, or at least a bad rule, but it wasn't necessarily Brady's fault.
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 08:33 PM
people liked to complain, but they bent but not broke the rules. Like in the Baltimore game the previous round where they lined the offensive lineman (Vollmer?) as a tight end a few yards away from the offensive line towards the slot and threw him a TD. That wasn't illegal, it was a brilliantly schemed play within the rules. Then, they changed the rules the following offseason. But Harbaugh had no right to complain because even though that trick play was gimmicky, it was within the rules. Belichick himself had to suck it up when he got beat by the Philly Special.
I definitely think Belichick not Brady was much more into the business of cheating.
The tuck rule game was a bad call for sure, or at least a bad rule, but it wasn't necessarily Brady's fault.
they broke the rules that time. but clearly with how brady came back with a vengeance, it wasn't what made brady great lol. anybody who pretended that was the case was full of it.
rogcl1
02-08-2021, 09:04 PM
russell's celtics dominated a league with like 8 teams :lol
That means the talent was not diluted over 30 teams.
DAF86
02-08-2021, 09:44 PM
DAF86
What's the matter son?
Blake
02-08-2021, 09:48 PM
dno about "unfair" but football team success does tend to skew toward having good qb play more than any other single position.
I mean take an offensive lineman. Even if he dominates every play in every game he'll never sniff an MVP trophy
Blake
02-08-2021, 09:49 PM
What era are you referring to? The 90s? Most definitely not today's load management NBA..... :lmao
I think you get the point.
spurraider21
02-08-2021, 09:50 PM
I mean take an offensive lineman. Even if he dominates every play in every game he'll never sniff an MVP trophy
i dont disagree. but nobody in their right mind, when starting a football team on a blank slate, would just to take anthony munoz as their first pick instead of a guy like brady
Millennial_Messiah
02-08-2021, 09:59 PM
i dont disagree. but nobody in their right mind, when starting a football team on a blank slate, would just to take anthony munoz as their first pick instead of a guy like brady
And to think the Chiefs were probably a Muņoz type player away from making last night's game a competitive shootout instead of the slaughterfest it was.
Millennial_Messiah
02-09-2021, 10:21 AM
I mean take an offensive lineman. Even if he dominates every play in every game he'll never sniff an MVP trophy
Kicker, punter, OL
WRs and TEs have never won MVP but I think it could be possible. Problem is the very high WR number years tend to be on middling or losing team (like Calvin's 2K year where Detroit wen 4-12) because very high receiving yards tend to mean the team is playing mostly from behind a lot.
leemajors
02-09-2021, 11:13 AM
Tiger Woods
Nicklaus still had more
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