California, Florida show similar COVID trends despite different policies

[ducks]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-florida-similar-trends-covid-19-different-approaches

So the lockdowns really did nothing in cal except cost money to workers and business owners

[JPB]

Cali population is much younger and active than old Florida and their boatload of retirees who don't leave their fancy homes. If not for the lockdowns, Cali's numbers would have been way higher for a dramatic situation and hospitals totally overwhelmed.

[ducks]

Cali population is much younger and active than old Florida and their boatload of retirees who don't leave their fancy homes. If not for the lockdowns, Cali's numbers would have been way higher for a dramatic situation and hospitals totally overwhelmed.

Prove it
Open it up !
They are a lot of young people in Florida
Military bases
Miama is basically a young person town

[ducks]

Have to be rich to move or stay in cal now
Which means a older person !

[SnakeBoy]

It's almost like the virus doesn't care which state it is in

[Winehole23]

It's almost like the virus doesn't care which state it is inat least the wrong kind of COVID has skipped Florida due to its bang-up pandemic response.

[ducks]

See a lot of young people went to Florida to party doing spring break and their numbers still low !

[SnakeBoy]

at least the wrong kind of COVID has skipped Florida due to its bang-up pandemic response.

What do you mean wrong kind?

[Winehole23]

What do you mean wrong kind?Like DeSantis said, the UK and SA variants have shunned Florida; they can only be found in blue states.

[ElNono]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-florida-similar-trends-covid-19-different-approaches

So the lockdowns really did nothing in cal except cost money to workers and business owners

lol no...

but Newsom did bend the knee to early, should've stayed put with the lockdown like early in the pandemic, when California was doing much better than Florida.

[ElNono]

Like DeSantis said, the UK and SA variants have shunned Florida; they can only be found in blue states.

Do we know Florida is testing for it?

[Blake]

See a lot of young people went to Florida to party doing spring break and their numbers still low !

A year later and you still don't understand this

[Winehole23]

Do we know Florida is testing for it?Don’t recall where I read it, but reportedly DeSantis is full of it. OTOH If Florida isn’t doing the gene sequencing, his BS would have a leg to stand on.

“Not detected in Florida”

[rmt]

As a Floridian, I am very pleased with the way DeSantis has handled the pandemic/vaccine rollout. He protected the nursing homes but basically the state has been open for business - sans limited (in restaurant dining) in Miami-Dade during spikes. I've been to Disney World 3 times since October on their FL resident special and they are excellent with social distancing - CA should allow Disney Land to do the same.

I like that DeSantis prioritized the seniors over/with (young) "essential front line workers" - an old person is much more likely to die from covid than some 23 year old transit worker. I was able to get first dose vaccines (and appts for 2nd vaccine) for both parents and mother-in-law at Publix (supermarket) which I think is safer than going to one of the big hospitals - of course, we had to drive into Palm Beach county but that's ok.

[Winehole23]

Of course you’d be pleased, DeSantis lies about COVID, hides the data and privileges profits over human health. It would be truly terrible if a pandemic ever inconvenienced a business.

[Adam Lambert]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

People as stupid as ducks make this country a more dangerous place to live in.

[DarrinS]

Every state doing better than NY is lying and hiding data. Lol

[Adam Lambert]

Every state doing better than NY is lying and hiding data. Lol

No one brought up NY and pretty much everyone in this thread has been critical of Cuomo and NY.

After all your garbage, objectively-wrong-in-hindsight takes about Covid for the past year, maybe you should just sit this topic out. Your kind of ignorance has led to thousands of deaths too.

I'm not sure why people like you lack the self awareness to reflect on how consistently and dangerously wrong you've been about this even after 500K deaths. Instead you keep running your stupid mouths. Just bafflingly stubborn ignorance, and proud for some reason.

[Winehole23]

Every state doing better than NY is lying and hiding data. LolFlorida hiding the ball has been widely reported on, you educate yourself sometimes before running your ignorant mouth.

[rmt]

Amazing how some of you STILL sound so pro-lockdown - the effects on business, education (might not be seen for years) - terrible.

LOL on obesity as a priority - how many Americans are classified as obese?

[Adam Lambert]

Amazing how some of you STILL sound so pro-lockdown - the effects on business, education (might not be seen for years) - terrible.

LOL on obesity as a priority - how many Americans are classified as obese?

I'm pro- "lockdown completely for 4 weeks in March of 2020" but you stupid fucks were crying about how any response was an overreaction to a mild case of the chills.

[ElNono]

Amazing how some of you STILL sound so pro-lockdown - the effects on business, education (might not be seen for years) - terrible.

LOL on obesity as a priority - how many Americans are classified as obese?

The effects of your education are readily visible right now, tbh... plus you've extolled the virtues of home-schooling repeatedly here, the hypocrisy is showing...

[Winehole23]

Amazing how some of you STILL sound so pro-lockdown - the effects on business, education (might not be seen for years) - terrible.

LOL on obesity as a priority - how many Americans are classified as obese?Pharmacopeia consists largely of poisons. Few remedies are risk free.COVID nearly broke health care in CA even with lockdowns, would that have been an acceptable outcome for you?

[rmt]

The effects of your education are readily visible right now, tbh... plus you've extolled the virtues of home-schooling repeatedly here, the hypocrisy is showing...

LOL - at your equating what I did with my kids (true Home Schooling) with ONLINE learning/Zoom classes with public/private school teachers.

[rmt]

Pharmacopeia consists largely of poisons. Few remedies are risk free.COVID nearly broke health care in CA even with lockdowns, would that have been an acceptable outcome for you?

Risk-free - what is risk-free? How about some common sense zinc, vitamin D, baby aspirin?

And were other options explored? Like those hospital ships/Javits Center temporary hospital that Trump sent/built in NY? Were those in CA?

[Winehole23]

Risk-free - what is risk-free? How about some common sense zinc, vitamin D, baby aspirin.Aspirin isn't risk free, dunno about vitamin D and Zinc.

[Winehole23]

And were other options explored? Like those hospital ships/Javits Center temporary hospital that Trump sent/built in NY? Were those in CA?I don't know much about Cali's COVID policies, I'd just be making it up if I tried to answer.

You seem to think lockdowns are never appropriate, am I getting you right?

[rmt]

I don't know much about Cali's COVID policies, I'd just be making it up if I tried to answer.

You seem to think lockdowns are never appropriate, am I getting you right?

I too don't know much about CA covid policies but if my state had such a crisis, the below is what I'd be hoping for:

I never said lockdowns are never appropriate - I see it as a way a BUY time - maybe appropriate at the beginning when we knew nothing/little about this virus. At this time (now) - imho, lockdowns are not appropriate - in CA, they could have asked for the 2 hospital ships, could have asked the army to set up temporary hospitals, asked for help from health care workers from other states, etc.

[rmt]

Aspirin isn't risk free, dunno about vitamin D and Zinc.

A baby aspirin is only 81 mg. - a quarter of a regular aspirin - unless you're a child (Reyes' I think it's called), a baby aspirin is not gonna harm you.

[rmt]

The effects of your education are readily visible right now, tbh... plus you've extolled the virtues of home-schooling repeatedly here, the hypocrisy is showing...

The conflation of home schooling with what is going on now throughout the country is giving home schooling a BAD name. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding and poorly-educated ole me is crossing her fingers for another college graduation this May (although the job market sucks right now even for an engineer so maybe grad school?) and hopefully another (last) graduation in 3 years' time.

[ChumpDumper]

Now baby aspirin stops COVID.:lol

[rmt]

Now baby aspirin stops COVID.:lol

No one said that - maybe take a little extra vitamin D and zinc daily and if you get covid (or feel symptoms), take more and a baby aspirin (I think they give this on hospital admission) - try to build up your immune system, keep out of the hospital, avoid overwhelming health care systems and lockdowns.

[ElNono]

LOL - at your equating what I did with my kids (true Home Schooling) with ONLINE learning/Zoom classes with public/private school teachers.

True, it demeans public/private school teachers.

[Splits]

Has anyone ever met someone who was homeschooled who is normal or are they all socially awkward freaks?

[Winehole23]

Do we know Florida is testing for it?Dunno who does the sequencing, but FL has one third of the detected B. 1. 1. 7 cases in the US.


Even with two vaccines and COVID cases waning from a winter peak, Florida’s pandemic future has been obscured in recent weeks by the rapid spread of a new and more contagious variant of the virus.

The state has become ground zero in the U.S. for the B.1.1.7 variant of the COVID virus, or the ‘”U.K. variant” — one of several spin-offs that have raised alarm in the scientific community. The more infectious version of the virus, scientists worry, could accelerate severe disease and deaths before public health officials get enough people vaccinated.

The B.1.1.7 variant — which recent studies by private researchers and federal officials predict will be the predominant strain (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7003e2.htm?s_cid=mm7003e2_w) of the COVID virus in Florida by March — is establishing a foothold (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article248944074.html) at a time when COVID cases and hospitalizations are trending down across the state from a peak in early January.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article249116900.html#storin

[ElNono]

Dunno who does the sequencing, but FL has one third of the detected B. 1. 1. 7 cases in the US.



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article249116900.html#storin



If you're fudging your numbers NY-style, does it matter?

[Winehole23]

If you're fudging your numbers NY-style, does it matter?COVID doesn’t care, Florida is going to be hurting even worse soon.

[ducks]

MJ
A classic case of liberal priorities…

California recently updated its coronavirus vaccine guidelines, placing medical marijuana workers higher up in priority than some teachers, bus drivers and food and agricultural workers.

As reported by the Orange County Register, the decision drew backlash from educators, but celebration from those in the medical marijuana industry.

“Cannabis delivery drivers before school bus drivers and teachers? Makes no sense to me,” Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent Austin Beutner tweeted.

[Winehole23]

so much the worse for DeSantis's presidential aspirations



https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/covid-cases-top-ten-16.png

[Winehole23]

dirty south nearing 20% positivity


https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/covid-positivity-regions-14.png

[Ef-man]

so much the worse for DeSantis's presidential aspirations

A true trumper, willing to let people die for political gain.

[Winehole23]

A true trumper, willing to let people die for political gain.it might wreck his chances, but who knows?





http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0gdpEt0IspM/VbarREh_F4I/AAAAAAAAArA/_RZukOg0Xkw/s1600/alpha1.jpg


https://moviegoings.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/thebomb.jpg

[Ef-man]

it might wreck his chances, but who knows?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0gdpEt0IspM/VbarREh_F4I/AAAAAAAAArA/_RZukOg0Xkw/s1600/alpha1.jpg


https://moviegoings.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/thebomb.jpg

He is permanently losing voters to covid everyday but you are right on who knows.

Might be brought up by opponents next election as faithful are not getting vaccinated.

But these folks are stupid, so it might work to his favor.

[Thread]

it might wreck his chances, but who knows?





http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0gdpEt0IspM/VbarREh_F4I/AAAAAAAAArA/_RZukOg0Xkw/s1600/alpha1.jpg


https://moviegoings.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/thebomb.jpg

& he ain't released the death count on Sunday, nor today. It's a gonna be a whopper tomorrow, by God, Winester.

I'll just tote that right on over to mother fucker Biden's death count.

tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

The case rate in the state over the past week -- about 49 new cases per 100,000 people each day -- is more than three times the US rate of about 16 new cases per 100,000 people each day. Only Arkansas and Louisiana had higher case rates over the past week.





Florida also reported more Covid-19 deaths than any other state over the past week -- a total of 282 over the past week -- the sixth highest per capita rate of deaths in the country.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/26/politics/florida-jerry-demings-covid-warning-amusement-parks/index.html

[Ef-man]

Nope.

This thread is not aging well.

Florida coronavirus cases jump 50% as surge continues.

Florida’s coronavirus cases jumped 50% this week, the state Health Department reported Friday, continuing a six-week surge that has seen it responsible for 1 in 5 new infections nationally, becoming the outbreak’s epicenter.

The release came shortly after Gov. Ron DeSantis barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

More than 110,000 new coronavirus cases were reported statewide over the past week, up from 73,000 last week and 11 times the 10,000 reported the week of June 11, six weeks ago. Case numbers are now back to where they in January, just before vaccinations became widely available.

The Florida Hospital Association also said Friday that statewide COVID-19 hospitalizations are nearing last year’s peak. More than 9,300 patients are hospitalized, up from 1,845 a month ago and nearing the record 10,179 set on July 23, 2020. On a per capita basis, Florida now has more people hospitalized than any other state.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/07/florida-governor-bars-schools-from-requiring-masks/

[Thread]

Nope.

This thread is not aging well.

Florida coronavirus cases jump 50% as surge continues.

Florida’s coronavirus cases jumped 50% this week, the state Health Department reported Friday, continuing a six-week surge that has seen it responsible for 1 in 5 new infections nationally, becoming the outbreak’s epicenter.

The release came shortly after Gov. Ron DeSantis barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

More than 110,000 new coronavirus cases were reported statewide over the past week, up from 73,000 last week and 11 times the 10,000 reported the week of June 11, six weeks ago. Case numbers are now back to where they in January, just before vaccinations became widely available.

The Florida Hospital Association also said Friday that statewide COVID-19 hospitalizations are nearing last year’s peak. More than 9,300 patients are hospitalized, up from 1,845 a month ago and nearing the record 10,179 set on July 23, 2020. On a per capita basis, Florida now has more people hospitalized than any other state.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/07/florida-governor-bars-schools-from-requiring-masks/

California too, Ef. You've nary room. And that Newsome fellow has had it locked down over there for 17 of the last 18 months, cept for the beaches.
tee, hee.

[ElNono]

California too, Ef. You've nary room. And that Newsome fellow has had it locked down over there for 17 of the last 18 months, cept for the beaches.
tee, hee.

I'm there. Beaches were locked down for a long ass time.

[Thread]

I'm there. Beaches were locked down for a long ass time.


They were open on the TV.

+ I was addressing Ef, not your wise ass, gd know-it-all you.

:lol

[ElNono]

They were open on the TV.

+ I was addressing Ef, not your wise ass, gd know-it-all you.

:lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/CFUCR2Hg0jH4Q/giphy.gif

[hater]

Cali population is much younger and active than old Florida and their boatload of retirees who don't leave their fancy homes. If not for the lockdowns, Cali's numbers would have been way higher for a dramatic situation and hospitals totally overwhelmed.

Lol you have no clue what you talking about.

Im in Florida ppl are mostly out partying

[boutons_deux]

'I'm sick of the judgmental stuff':

DeSantis gets defensive and lashes out as Covid spikes in Florida

he is "sick" of people's "judgmental" attitude toward those who, after months of vaccines being available, for free, and within five miles of the vast majority of Americans (and even available in-home for some (https://www.vaccines.gov/),) have chosen to not get vaccinated against the deadly coronavirus that's killed 629,927 Americans (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) so far.

"We obviously have some people that are not vaccinated that have been admitted to hospitals.

are you going to sit there and criticize, or we going to try to treat and try to help the folks?

You know, I'm just sick of this judge – I'm sick of the judgment, the judgmental stuff on some of this stuff,

nobody's trying to, to, to get ill here, okay?"

Just 49.1% of Florida adults are fully vaccinated.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/florida-cv-deaths-.jpg
https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/ron-desantis-2654419189/

Florida people, you got the homicidal governor you deserve

[baseline bum]

'I'm sick of the judgmental stuff':

DeSantis gets defensive and lashes out as Covid spikes in Florida

he is "sick" of people's "judgmental" attitude toward those who, after months of vaccines being available, for free, and within five miles of the vast majority of Americans (and even available in-home for some (https://www.vaccines.gov/),) have chosen to not get vaccinated against the deadly coronavirus that's killed 629,927 Americans (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) so far.

"We obviously have some people that are not vaccinated that have been admitted to hospitals.

are you going to sit there and criticize, or we going to try to treat and try to help the folks?

You know, I'm just sick of this judge – I'm sick of the judgment, the judgmental stuff on some of this stuff,

nobody's trying to, to, to get ill here, okay?"

Just 49.1% of Florida adults are fully vaccinated.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/florida-cv-deaths-.jpg
https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/ron-desantis-2654419189/

Florida people, you got the homicidal governor you deserve

LOL you either choose to get vaccinated or you choose to catch SARS-CoV-2 with a naive immune system. There is no Option C.

[boutons_deux]

Homicidal Arkansas governor admits he regrets signing mask mandate ban into law (https://theweek.com/delta-variant/1003372/arkansas-governor-admits-he-regrets-signing-mask-mandate-ban-into-law)


Arkansas governor admits he regrets signing mask mandate ban into law

[diego]

A friend of mine bailed Chile, sick of the lockdowns , curfew, mask mandate, went to Florida, got covid within 5 days

:lol

[Thread]

'I'm sick of the judgmental stuff':

DeSantis gets defensive and lashes out as Covid spikes in Florida

he is "sick" of people's "judgmental" attitude toward those who, after months of vaccines being available, for free, and within five miles of the vast majority of Americans (and even available in-home for some (https://www.vaccines.gov/),) have chosen to not get vaccinated against the deadly coronavirus that's killed 629,927 Americans (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) so far.

"We obviously have some people that are not vaccinated that have been admitted to hospitals.

are you going to sit there and criticize, or we going to try to treat and try to help the folks?

You know, I'm just sick of this judge – I'm sick of the judgment, the judgmental stuff on some of this stuff,

nobody's trying to, to, to get ill here, okay?"

Just 49.1% of Florida adults are fully vaccinated.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/florida-cv-deaths-.jpg
https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/ron-desantis-2654419189/

Florida people, you got the homicidal governor you deserve

Now wait a minute, dad. California has 65k dead and Newsome has kept it closed all the way. Florida has 39k dead and Santis said a year ago..."We've opened up and we're not going back."

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

Homicidal Arkansas governor admits he regrets signing mask mandate ban into law (https://theweek.com/delta-variant/1003372/arkansas-governor-admits-he-regrets-signing-mask-mandate-ban-into-law)




Arkansas governor admits he regrets signing mask mandate ban into law


I'll just bet he does.

[TDfan2007]

Now wait a minute, dad. California has 65k dead and Newsome has kept it closed all the way. Florida has 39k dead and Santis said a year ago..."We've opened up and we're not going back."

Let us proceed...

This lends evidence to mass vaccination being the only way to end the nightmare. Regulating behavior like isolation and social distancing is very difficult and hasn't proved very effective

[Thread]

This lends evidence to mass vaccination being the only way to end the nightmare. Regulating behavior like isolation and social distancing is very difficult and hasn't proved very effective

The vaccinated are getting it, TD.

[boutons_deux]

DeSantis Blasts Other Forty-nine States for Making Florida Look Bad

“Our covid numbers wouldn’t seem so terrible if other states’ numbers weren’t better,” he said.

“You don’t have to be a detective to figure out who stands to benefit from this scenario.”

“Nice try, other forty-nine states,” he bellowed. “I’m onto you!”

DeSantis’s remarks drew a strong rebuke from a fellow Republican governor, Greg Abbott of Texas.

“If you look at our covid numbers, you’ll find that Texas has been doing everything in our power to make Florida look good,” he said.

“Ron DeSantis’s comments are very hurtful.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/desantis-blasts-other-forty-nine-states-for-making-florida-look-bad (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/desantis-blasts-other-forty-nine-states-for-making-florida-look-bad)

[MultiTroll]

Now wait a minute, dad. California has 65k dead and Newsome has kept it closed all the way. Florida has 39k dead and Santis said a year ago..."We've opened up and we're not going back."

Let us proceed...
Population:

California 45 million not counting 30 million additional illegals.
Florida 19 million not counting 7 million additional illegals.

Let us proceed.

[Thread]

Population:

California 45 million not counting 30 million additional illegals.
Florida 19 million not counting 7 million additional illegals.

Let us proceed.

I don't want to hear any of that horseshit. California has more deaths than any other statePERIOD

[Thread]

DeSantis Blasts Other Forty-nine States for Making Florida Look Bad

“Our covid numbers wouldn’t seem so terrible if other states’ numbers weren’t better,” he said.

“You don’t have to be a detective to figure out who stands to benefit from this scenario.”

“Nice try, other forty-nine states,” he bellowed. “I’m onto you!”

DeSantis’s remarks drew a strong rebuke from a fellow Republican governor, Greg Abbott of Texas.

“If you look at our covid numbers, you’ll find that Texas has been doing everything in our power to make Florida look good,” he said.

“Ron DeSantis’s comments are very hurtful.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/desantis-blasts-other-forty-nine-states-for-making-florida-look-bad (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/desantis-blasts-other-forty-nine-states-for-making-florida-look-bad)

At least Santis left that cocksucker in the White House with a cleaned clock. Spotless.

[MultiTroll]

I don't want to hear any of that horseshit. California has more deaths than any other statePERIOD
:lol Trumptards never want true facts getting in the way.