Countdown To Kamala Presidency

[DMC]

My boy Biden is struggling with facts. He's not being dishonest, he's just not mentally aware enough to say the right shit. How long before the dem party eases him out the door? What will it take?

[SnakeBoy]

They need to drag old Joe past '22 so she can serve 2 full terms afterwards

[ChumpDumper]

As long as it's not your Trump.:tu

[DarrinS]

Based on his recent statements, I don't think Joe remembers getting vaccinated. :lol

[Reck]

Give it some context, OP.

What's the latest Biden non story outrage now?

[DMC]

Give it some context, OP.

What's the latest Biden non story outrage now?

Just some run of-the mill shit like stats and facts.

[Reck]

Just some run of-the mill shit like stats and facts.

Ah.

This is the same guy who said half the US population has been killed by gun fire so par for the course here.

[DMC]

Ah.

This is the same guy who said half the US population has been killed by gun fire so par for the course here.

Innocent shit, none of it helps his cause so he's just cuddly old Joe with hairy legs.

[Spurtacular]

He's not being dishonest, he's just not mentally aware enough to say the right shit.

What a scoop!

[Spurtacular]

Give it some context, OP.

What's the latest Biden non story outrage now?

Name these non stories you speak of.

[Spurtacular]

As long as it's not your Trump.:tu

Daddy issues.

[ChumpDumper]

Daddy issues.Worst president in US history issues.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1362229785263439878?s=19

Not looking good for being only a month into his 4 years.

And whats that shit on his nose?

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Mark Dice

hater has truly gone full derp

[hater]

:lmao Mark Dice

hater has truly gone full derp

Not watching the video :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Not watching the video :lmaoI don't watch any of derp's videos.

[SnakeBoy]

And whats that shit on his nose?

Herpes

[Reck]

He also has it all wrong. The vast majority of people who live in rural areas are white, not Hispanic or black.

Not that he quantified it but yikes singling them out.

[DarrinS]

"poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids"

Dude literally says dumb shit like this all the time. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

I don't watch any of videos.

Doesn't stop you from sperm shielding.

[Winehole23]

My boy Biden is struggling with facts. He's not being dishonest, he's just not mentally aware enough to say the right shit. How long before the dem party eases him out the door? What will it take?You’ve got a keen eye for it.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287262&page=20&p=10278028 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287262&page=20&p=10278028&highlight=Cognitive#post10278028)

[Spurtacular]

He also has it all wrong. The vast majority of people who live in rural areas are white, not Hispanic or black.

Not that he quantified it but yikes singling them out.

Yikes!

[Spurtacular]

My boy Biden


Trump is 100x more cognitive than Biden. It's embarrassing.

:lol Today's snowflake.

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't stop you from sperm shielding.^daddy issues

[Spurtacular]

^daddy issues

You're not turning tables, BlakeBlaker.

[ChumpDumper]

You're not turning tables, BlakeBlaker.
^cuck

[DarrinS]

"poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids"

Dude literally says dumb shit like this all the time. :lmao

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[Adam Lambert]

Lots of you guys who clowned on boutons for spamming Borowitz articles sure love you some Babylon Bee, as if it's any funnier.

[Spurtacular]

Lots of you guys who clowned on boutons for spamming Borowitz articles sure love you some Babylon Bee, as if it's any funnier.

You have to pay someone attention before you can clown them.
And :lol that the Babylon Bee speaks more truth than you do.
Your feelings are clearly quite hurt.

[Spurtacular]

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BB GOAT dig. :lol :lmao :rollin

[MultiTroll]

Sweet.
Legalize pot.
Promote AOC and shake those greedy old white racists and deliver some banging stimulus money.

[Reck]

Sweet.
Legalize pot.
Promote AOC and shake those greedy old white racists and deliver some banging stimulus money.

Unless she wants to stall her political career she should hold up on a senate run. Schumer and even that dumb broad Gillibrand are more popular here than she is.

[hater]

1362069296503996425

:lol

[koriwhat]

Innocent shit, none of it helps his cause so he's just cuddly old Joe with hairy legs.

Excuses... What's his take on them concentration camps in China? How about kids not being people? lmao

[koriwhat]

BB GOAT dig. :lol :lmao :rollin

:tu

[DMC]

Excuses... What's his take on them concentration camps in China? How about kids not being people? lmao

Those are normal left/right topics. Joe's recent missteps are what's being discussed and those are indeed just the mutterings of a man who's somewhere untangling his mind.

[Proxy]

what a disappointing first female president kamala would be, people would just be slurping up the same shit that gave obama a free ride to media god status. Obama sent more black americans into homelessness and deported more latinos but he's a poc, so lets ignore that. Kamala = Obama 2.0

[koriwhat]

what a disappointing first female president kamala would be, people would just be slurping up the same shit that gave obama a free ride to media god status. Obama sent more black americans into homelessness and deported more latinos but he's a poc, so lets ignore that. Kamala = Obama 2.0

Both are POS people tbh.

[hater]

:lmao old geezer in bed playing super smash bros on his phone :lol

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1362437450073853953?s=19

[DMC]

Was here first tbh

[Reck]

Was here first tbh

You guys have a weird death fetish.

[Dirks_Finale]

what a disappointing first female president kamala would be, people would just be slurping up the same shit that gave obama a free ride to media god status. Obama sent more black americans into homelessness and deported more latinos but he's a poc, so lets ignore that. Kamala = Obama 2.0

Much worse than Obama.

She failed the Bar exam to practice law in California. She was polling at like 3% in the (D) primaries and nobody liked her or her ridiculous cackle. She runs to identity politics whenever she feels cornered and just makes sh1t up on the fly like listening to Tupac when Tupac was like 4 years old :lol We all know why she is VP as opposed to the usual Tim Kaine types.

I would argue that Obama was fairly centrist. Overall, in addition to being about as likable as a carbuncle, she is hard left.

[ChumpDumper]

Looking forward to it judging from the dudes already triggered by her.:tu

[Winehole23]

I would argue that Obama was fairly centrist. Overall, in addition to being about as likable as a carbuncle, she is hard left.Agreed on Obama, but curious to know why you think Kamala is hard left.

She looks like a centrist Democrat to me and as Cali AG she was too establishmentarian for the Bay Area. They didn't think she was hard left. Few people anywhere describe her that way, why does it seem that way to you?

[DMC]

You guys have a weird death fetish.

Not wishing for death, just thinking he'll be unfit to lead mentally.

[DMC]

I find Kamala hard left on personal liberties unless you're black in California at which time you need to spend your life in prison for selling weed.

[Dirks_Finale]

Agreed on Obama, but curious to know why you think Kamala is hard left.

She looks like a centrist Democrat to me and as Cali AG she was too establishmentarian for the Bay Area. They didn't think she was hard left. Few people anywhere describe her that way, why does it seem that way to you?

Sure, as AG I think she was clearly more establishment.

But take a gander at her voting record. She isn't exactly Joe Manchin, she votes with the democrat's 99% of the time. She's for single payer, for banning fracking, likely wants to put AOC as the secretary of energy, etc.

BTW, she gets slammed on here for her record as AG on drug convictions, but even her position on that has changed as she introduced legislation to decriminalize weed. Not saying that's bad, I actually agree with it, I'm just saying she has moved further to the left.

[Winehole23]

I find Kamala hard left on personal liberties unless you're black in California at which time you need to spend your life in prison for selling weed.How so?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Sure, as AG I think she was clearly more establishment.

But take a gander at her voting record. She isn't exactly Joe Manchin, she votes with the democrat's 99% of the time. She's for single payer, for banning fracking, likely wants to put AOC as the secretary of energy, etc.

BTW, she gets slammed on here for her record as AG on drug convictions, but even her position on that has changed as she introduced legislation to decriminalize weed. Not saying that's bad, I actually agree with it, I'm just saying she has moved further to the left.

Decriminalizing weed would be terrible for the Democratic Party. They wouldn't have anything left that's a largely bipartistan public wish to campaign on. Basically the same thing the other way around if the GOP gave up on the abortion debate for good... Most Republicans/Trumpers I know smoke lots and lots of weed.

[hater]

I find Kamala hard left on personal liberties unless you're black in California at which time you need to spend your life in prison for selling weed.

:lmao

The only left thing she has is her left side.of the body :lol

[Winehole23]

Sure, as AG I think she was clearly more establishment.

But take a gander at her voting record. She isn't exactly Joe Manchin, she votes with the democrat's 99% of the time. She's for single payer, for banning fracking, likely wants to put AOC as the secretary of energy, etc.

BTW, she gets slammed on here for her record as AG on drug convictions, but even her position on that has changed as she introduced legislation to decriminalize weed. Not saying that's bad, I actually agree with it, I'm just saying she has moved further to the left.Seems you don't like Harris because she doesn't vote with Republicans and she *might* support some things you don't like. If "hard left" just means Democratic party membership plus conventional 2020 Democratic positions, "hard left" just means "Democrat."

Can you lend any support to your claims that Harris wants to ban fracking and supports single payer healthcare?

(Your conjecture that AOC is somehow in the running for Sec'y of Energy seems more like a convenient juxtaposition than a real take -- AOC has no relevant bureaucratic or professional experience for a position like that.)

https://i.redd.it/igy1jun2yoa31.png

[Proxy]

Much worse than Obama.

She failed the Bar exam to practice law in California. She was polling at like 3% in the (D) primaries and nobody liked her or her ridiculous cackle. She runs to identity politics whenever she feels cornered and just makes sh1t up on the fly like listening to Tupac when Tupac was like 4 years old :lol We all know why she is VP as opposed to the usual Tim Kaine types.

I would argue that Obama was fairly centrist. Overall, in addition to being about as likable as a carbuncle, she is hard left.

agreed on all points in the first paragraph. Her and Obama are both center at their most liberal though, neither sniffs legitimate left politics tbh

[Dirks_Finale]

I've actually taken a look at her voting record and the legislation she introduced, as I know she will be POTUS soon. I've also paid attention to the comments she has made on several key issues. A quick search will help you as I don't do people's homework for them.

If you identify as progressive, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with her. The rest of us will have a grand celebration the day she walks away.


Seems you don't like Harris because she doesn't vote with Republicans and she *might* support some things you don't like. If "hard left" just means Democratic party membership plus conventional 2020 Democratic positions, "hard left" just means "Democrat."

Can you lend any support to your claims that Harris wants to ban fracking and supports single payer healthcare?

(Your conjecture that AOC is somehow in the running for Sec'y of Energy seems more like a convenient juxtaposition than a real take -- AOC has no relevant bureaucratic or professional experience for a position like that.)

https://i.redd.it/igy1jun2yoa31.png

[Winehole23]

I've actually taken a look at her voting record and the legislation she introduced, as I know she will be POTUS soon. I've also paid attention to the comments she has made on several key issues. A quick search will help you as I don't do people's homework for them.

If you identify as progressive, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with her. The rest of us will have a grand celebration the day she walks away.Please share the info you're referring to, I'm not a mind-reader and besides, we probably don't agree on the basic terms, which are still undefined.

Which KH positions are "moderate"? Which are "progressive"? Which are "hard left"? Did you quantify the distribution between these, or did you just eyeball it?

I notice you took a pass on Harris supporting a fracking ban and single payer healthcare, so I'll just assume you pulled that out of the air.

What you call homework I would call the burden of supporting your own claims. If you abandon the effort, you abandon the claims. If support for your own point isn't handy, so much the worse for your point.

[spurraider21]

That chart is pretty bad tbh :lol

gravel far right? Tulsi actually in Bernie territory? (I was admittedly duped by her facade as well)

[Winehole23]

That chart is pretty bad tbh :lol

gravel far right? Tulsi actually in Bernie territory? (I was admittedly duped by her facade as well)Yeah, there's some screwy stuff, but the general thrust -- most US politicians in the upper right quadrant -- strikes me as broadly accurate, which was the point of posting it.

[DMC]

Don't use a chart that's obviously wrong. I think people should stop using the entire world as a gauge for political leaning in the United States. It doesn't mean the same thing here that does there. We have different reference points.

[Winehole23]

I think people should stop using the entire world as a gauge for political leaning in the United States. It doesn't mean the same thing here that does there. We have different reference points.The incidence of leftist politics in the USA is vanishing. It's pretty much all centrist and right wing.

[DMC]

The incidence of leftist politics in the USA is vanishing. It's pretty much all centrist and right wing.

Not if you use a valid reference point.

[spurraider21]

Not if you use a valid reference point.
it does if we all understanding "leftist" to mean left of liberal, or if taken to its ends, anti-capitalism

ie aoc/sanders

of course in american discourse, left or leftist typically just refers to the democrat party, though i think through context its clear what WH meant (though to some people like derp anybody who isnt a trump loyalist is a communist, so theres that)

[DMC]

it does if we all understanding "leftist" to mean left of liberal, or if taken to its ends, anti-capitalism

ie aoc/sanders

of course in american discourse, left or leftist typically just refers to the democrat party, though i think through context its clear what WH meant (though to some people like derp anybody who isnt a trump loyalist is a communist, so theres that)

But Sanders is barely left according to the chart. If we consider Sanders to be almost conservative, we don't really have a left in the US. So left of center doesn't mean anything if we don't define center. To some here, anyone who isn't a Marxist is a Trumptard. But there's a reason universal left isn't popular in the US. Maybe some should consider that instead of trying to shoehorn a broken system into place. Either system is selfish. It's human nature.

[DMC]

Has there ever been a video game where you can sim government styles to see how they play out, what roadblocks pop up and such? Would be interesting.

[spurraider21]

But Sanders is barely left according to the chart. If we consider Sanders to be almost conservative, we don't really have a left in the US. So left of center doesn't mean anything if we don't define center. To some here, anyone who isn't a Marxist is a Trumptard. But there's a reason universal left isn't popular in the US. Maybe some should consider that instead of trying to shoehorn a broken system into place. Either system is selfish. It's human nature.
ive already said the graph is bad (i was just addressing WH's comment)

the reason why sanders would not be far left by their system is likely because he's not calling for the abolition of capitalism. i dont think their economic center is aligned very realistically

[Dirks_Finale]

Please share the info you're referring to, I'm not a mind-reader and besides, we probably don't agree on the basic terms, which are still undefined.

Which KH positions are "moderate"? Which are "progressive"? Which are "hard left"? Did you quantify the distribution between these, or did you just eyeball it?

I notice you took a pass on Harris supporting a fracking ban and single payer healthcare, so I'll just assume you pulled that out of the air.

What you call homework I would call the burden of supporting your own claims. If you abandon the effort, you abandon the claims. If support for your own point isn't handy, so much the worse for your point.


Google search takes like 25 seconds bro :lol You are doing the lawyer schtick like chump :lol

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/kamala-harris-bernie-sanders-single-payer-medicare

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/climate-change/fracking-ban/

And there is more where that came from if you look at her voting record and legislation introduced which is all public record.

But I do think the Dems have moved so far left that you and I probably have different ideas about what is progressive, now. Things like reparations and UBI have become a thing with y'all, lately, so hard to keep up with the official progressive pendulum.

[Dirks_Finale]

But Sanders is barely left according to the chart. If we consider Sanders to be almost conservative, we don't really have a left in the US. So left of center doesn't mean anything if we don't define center. To some here, anyone who isn't a Marxist is a Trumptard. But there's a reason universal left isn't popular in the US. Maybe some should consider that instead of trying to shoehorn a broken system into place. Either system is selfish. It's human nature.

The dem's pendulum has move so far left that Sanders probably is a moderate now :lol. What is his position on reparations, etc?

[DMC]

ive already said the graph is bad (i was just addressing WH's comment)

the reason why sanders would not be far left by their system is likely because he's not calling for the abolition of capitalism. i dont think their economic center is aligned very realistically

So I have no idea what you're arguing against (like always). Since my comment wasn't to you and WH left out my first sentence in my response, you're jousting windmills again.

[Winehole23]

The dem's pendulum has move so far left that Sanders probably is a moderate now :lol. What is his position on reparations, etc?Disagree thatthe Dems are left of Bernie.

By what definition of left is that true? What does the "leftist shift" consist of?

[Dirks_Finale]

Disagree thatthe Dems are left of Bernie.

By what definition of left is that true? What does the "leftist shift" consist of?

You tell me. Are you progressive? What is your position on the border?

[Winehole23]

Google search takes like 25 seconds bro :lol You are doing the lawyer schtick like chump :lol

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/kamala-harris-bernie-sanders-single-payer-medicare

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/climate-change/fracking-ban/

And there is more where that came from if you look at her voting record and legislation introduced which is all public record.

But I do think the Dems have moved so far left that you and I probably have different ideas about what is progressive, now. Things like reparations and UBI have become a thing with y'all, lately, so hard to keep up with the official progressive pendulum.You still haven't shown your hand or defined your terms, you're just handwaving.

Which policies count as far left? Which are moderate? Which are conservative?

If you can't explain how you reached your conclusions about KH and the Demsin your own words, you probably haven't thought it through yet.

[spurraider21]

So I have no idea what you're arguing against (like always). Since my comment wasn't to you and WH left out my first sentence in my response, you're jousting windmills again.
ok, i'll explain (see how easy this is?)

The incidence of leftist politics in the USA is vanishing. It's pretty much all centrist and right wing.
i was responding in reference to this post. i think its clear given the context that by "leftist politics" he was not just referring to what we consider democrats in general to be, but rather, politicians of the sanders/aoc variety.

where you think that should show up on the graph is its own question, and i dont think the graph does a good job of it

[DMC]

Google search takes like 25 seconds bro :lol You are doing the lawyer schtick like chump :lol

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/kamala-harris-bernie-sanders-single-payer-medicare

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/climate-change/fracking-ban/

And there is more where that came from if you look at her voting record and legislation introduced which is all public record.

But I do think the Dems have moved so far left that you and I probably have different ideas about what is progressive, now. Things like reparations and UBI have become a thing with y'all, lately, so hard to keep up with the official progressive pendulum.

He cannot get off Twitter long enough to search for anything.

[Winehole23]

You tell me. Are you progressive? What is your position on the border?Happy to once you define your own terms. Of you can't or refuse to, others will be free to conclude you're just making stuff up

[DMC]

ok, i'll explain (see how easy this is?)

i was responding in reference to this post. i think its clear given the context that by "leftist politics" he was not just referring to what we consider democrats in general to be, but rather, politicians of the sanders/aoc variety.

where you think that should show up on the graph is its own question, and i dont think the graph does a good job of it

Ok you don't follow conversations, you just take a post out of context and go on a tangent from there. Got it.

Him: Shitty graph
Me: Don't use shitty graph, have a valid reference
Him: Left doesn't exist
Me: Not on your chart basically, because no valid reference
You: tangent

[pgardn]

You're not turning tables, BlakeBlaker.

The busboy speaks...

[DMC]

Happy to once you define your own terms. Of you can't or refuse to, others will be free to conclude you're just making stuff up

Valid reference good now

[Dirks_Finale]

Happy to once you define your own terms. Of you can't or refuse to, others will be free to conclude you're just making stuff up

I do not entertain the lawyer schtick. Come to whatever conclusion you please as I have provided links to my claims which already sort of breaks my own rules here.

[FrostKing]

Has there ever been a video game where you can sim government styles to see how they play out, what roadblocks pop up and such? Would be interesting.
https://i.ibb.co/1TskdXT/a77.jpg

Ghandi acquires Nukes

[Winehole23]

I posted the shitty graph was only meant to give D_F a general idea where I was coming from and to prod him to define his own terms.

If both major US parties are donor facing, corporatist parties pandering to the economic powers that be, in what meaningful sense does a left wing exist at all?

[spurraider21]

I posted the shitty graph was only meant to give D_F a general idea where I was coming from and to prod him to define his own terms.

If both major US parties are donor facing, corporatist parties pandering to the economic powers that be, in what meaningful sense does a left wing exist at all?
a pretty dumbed down but humorous meme looked something like this

can we have universal healthcare?

republicans: no
democrats: no #blm

[FrostKing]

I posted the shitty graph was only meant to give D_F a general idea where I was coming from and to prod him to define his own terms.

If both major US parties are donor facing, corporatist parties pandering to the economic powers that be, in what meaningful sense does a left wing exist at all?
"Critical race theory" in government

[Winehole23]

I do not entertain the lawyer schtick. Come to whatever conclusion you please as I have provided links to my claims which already sort of breaks my own rules here. It breaks your own rules to define your terms and explain how you reached conclusions?

So much the worse for your terms and your conclusions.

[Winehole23]

"Critical race theory" in governmentWhat's critical race theory?

[FrostKing]

What's critical race theory?
Obsession with skin color

[Winehole23]

Obsession with skin colorYou got that in spades.

[FrostKing]

You got that in spades.
And you're just fighting the good fight huh.

[Winehole23]

And you're just fighting the good fight huh.You're a racist. I'm an anti-racist.

[Winehole23]

Lol reducing left and right to feelings about "race"

[FrostKing]

You're a racist. I'm an anti-racist.
Okay buddy. Carry on.

[pgardn]

And you're just fighting the good fight huh.

So explain how dark skin leads to so many awful maladies?

[DMC]

pgardn trying to parasite onto a conversation so he can showcase his ciphering skills.

[Winehole23]

pgardn trying to parasite onto a conversation so he can showcase his ciphering skills.You've been nothing but a parasite ITT

[DMC]

You've been nothing but a parasite ITT

It's my thread, idiot. :lol

[Blake]

So I have no idea what you're arguing against (like always).

That's rich

[Winehole23]

It's my thread, idiot. :lolStill true.

You just started the thread, it doesn't belong to anyone.

[DMC]

Still true.

You just started the thread, it doesn't belong to anyone.

That's not how it works.

[pgardn]

pgardn trying to parasite onto a conversation so he can showcase his ciphering skills.

Again with the irony...
And the old man irritated about ankle biting.

Too much hypocrisy to keep up with.

[pgardn]

That's not how it works.

No that is how it works because I just did it.
DMCircleOfProtocol

[DMC]

Again with the irony...
And the old man irritated about ankle biting.

Too much hypocrisy to keep up with.
Doesn't take much to lose you.

[Adam Lambert]

The dem's pendulum has move so far left that Sanders probably is a moderate now :lol. What is his position on reparations, etc?

That must be why the Dems consolodated around Biden to prevent Bernie from being the candidate. It's because Bernie was too moderate.

:lmao :lmao

[pgardn]

Doesn't take much to lose you.

Sure GasCantFreeze.

[Winehole23]

That's not how it works.What control do you have over this thread?

Can you prevent someone from posting? Delete posts? Delete the thread?

if you can't, it's not yours.

[Ef-man]

What control do you have over this thread?

Can you prevent someone from posting? Delete posts? Delete the thread?

if you can't, it's not yours.

Dang, he is so anal that he thinks he controls the threads too.

[SnakeBoy]

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[Winehole23]

Rumsfeldian verse mode


At what point does the administration say, ‘You know what? This strategy isn’t working. We’re going to change strategies. Six former administration officials last week wrote that open letter urging the administration to change course, to change strategy. Is it time?,” NBC News host Craig Melvin asked Harris during an interview (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1481639021763706881?s=20)released Thursday.


“It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day,” she replied, suggesting that the administration has yet to reflect on the failure of its Covid policies to stop the spread of the virus, as was the original goal.


“Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down,” she added.
https://news.yahoo.com/harris-refuses-endorse-strategy-change-173635603.html