View Full Version : Psaki defends reopening of migrant facility for children under Biden: ‘This is not kids being kept in cages
ducks
02-24-2021, 12:04 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psaki-defends-migrant-facility-for-children-reopening-biden
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:07 AM
concordance: https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277048&page=76
rastaspur
02-24-2021, 12:10 AM
True. Those kids are moving on up like the jeffersons.
It may not be a deluxe apartment in the sky but a trailer with beds beats a cold hard concrete floor in a cage any day of the week.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:10 AM
I didn't see anything there about returning to Flores compliance. They gonna start letting these kids go after a short time?
ducks
02-24-2021, 12:12 AM
Hannity: Biden facilities for immigrant minors identical to Trump administration's 'cages'
Biden policies are 'green light for migrants,' Fox News host warns
rastaspur
02-24-2021, 12:13 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psaki-defends-migrant-facility-for-children-reopening-biden
No one wants to read your shitty fox news article, fucks.
No one wants to read your shitty fox news article, fucks.
No one cares about what hannity has to say about anything either. Except ST incels. We have a few.
ducks
02-24-2021, 12:16 AM
Yeah Fox News sucks but it tells what Biden press did today
And it upset aoc so much she had a fit on Twitter
rastaspur
02-24-2021, 12:19 AM
Yeah Fox News sucks but it tells what Biden press did today
And it upset aoc so much she had a fit on Twitter
So newsmax and oan are the true legit sources. Sounds about white.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:22 AM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-905.ZS.html
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/flores_settlement_final_plus_extension_of_settleme nt011797.pdf
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-cant-back-out-of-landmark-deal-protecting-immigrant-children/
rastaspur
02-24-2021, 12:41 AM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-905.ZS.html
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/flores_settlement_final_plus_extension_of_settleme nt011797.pdf
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-cant-back-out-of-landmark-deal-protecting-immigrant-children/
I've never actually read flores decision and settlement agreement. Thanks for the links. Just read them.
The decision and its reasoning is sound as a pound. It is striking a very delicate balance but it's necessary and reasonably akin to state dependency laws in application and purpose.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:48 AM
I've never actually read flores decision and settlement agreement. Thanks for the links. Just read them.
The decision and its reasoning is sound as a pound. It is striking a very delicate balance but it's necessary and reasonably akin to state dependency laws in application and purpose.um, the Flores guidance is like three days man
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:48 AM
you can't throw a little kid in a cage right?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:53 AM
if we can't hold Biden to the Clinton era legal doctrine, that's something Biden shares in common with Bush, Obama, and Trump.
DarrinS
02-24-2021, 01:11 AM
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FrostKing
02-24-2021, 01:21 AM
So newsmax and oan are the true legit sources. Sounds about white.
Let me guess, white people made you this way
ElNono
02-24-2021, 01:58 AM
Cages/jails for children is wrong, family separation is wrong, no matter who does it. It needs to stop.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 02:14 AM
Cages/jails for children is wrong, family separation is wrong, no matter who does it. It needs to stop.
Eso si que es.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 03:02 AM
don't even get me started about the forced hysterectomies!
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 03:05 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-hysterectomy-sterilization-dhs-investigations
daboom1
02-24-2021, 03:33 AM
https://i.ibb.co/DCHz9qc/IMG-20210224-023243.jpg
Monostradamus
02-24-2021, 07:38 AM
Rough day for AaronY
https://twitter.com/yesyoureracist/status/1364368633498128392?s=21
hater
02-24-2021, 08:57 AM
:lmao hope and change :lmao
hater
02-24-2021, 08:59 AM
Cages/jails for children is wrong, family separation is wrong, no matter who does it. It needs to stop.
When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"
When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 09:07 AM
When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"
When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"Who said Joe isn't a racist?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 09:07 AM
That'a not what mono said either
hater
02-24-2021, 09:08 AM
that's not what me and El Nono said.
Most media and liberals were calling Trump a nazi and racist when he did it.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 09:11 AM
Most media and liberals were calling Trump a nazi and racist when he did it.I posted about this before you and ducks started clowning about it.
Like you clowns even care.
ducks
02-24-2021, 09:15 AM
A federal judge late Tuesday indefinitely banned President Joe Biden's administration from enforcing a 100-day moratorium on most deportations.
U.S. District Judge Drew Tipton issued a preliminary injunction sought by Texas, which argued the moratorium violated federal law and risked imposing additional costs on the state.
Biden proposed the 100-day pause on deportations during his campaign as part of a larger review of immigration enforcement and an attempt to reverse the priorities of former President Donald Trump. Biden has proposed a sweeping immigration bill that would allow the legalization of an estimated 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally. He has also instituted other guidelines on whom immigration and border agents should target for enforcement.
Tipton, a Trump appointee, initially ruled on Jan. 26 that the moratorium violated federal law on administrative procedure and that the U.S. failed to show why a deportation pause was justified. A temporary restraining order the judge issued was set to expire Tuesday.
Tipton's ruling did not require deportations to resume at their previous pace. Even without a moratorium, immigration agencies have wide latitude in enforcing removals and processing cases.
But in the days that followed his ruling, authorities deported 15 people to Jamaica and hundreds of others to Central America. The Biden administration has also continued expelling immigrants under a separate process begun by Trump officials, who invoked public-health law due to the coronavirus pandemic.
The legal fight over the deportation ban is an early sign of Republican opposition to Biden’s immigration priorities, just as Democrats and pro-immigrant legal groups fought Trump’s proposals. Almost four years before Tipton’s order, Trump signed a ban on travel from seven countries with predominantly Muslim populations that caused chaos at airports. Legal groups successfully sued to stop implementation of the ban.
It was not immediately clear if the Biden administration will appeal Tipton's latest ruling. The Justice Department did not seek a stay of Tipton's earlier temporary restraining order
ducks
02-24-2021, 09:18 AM
Cages/jails for children is wrong, family separation is wrong, no matter who does it. It needs to stop.
So criminals can use children to use a baseball bat beat your mom to death and should never be separated ?
hater
02-24-2021, 09:18 AM
I posted about this before you and ducks started clowning about it.
Like you clowns even care.
I didnt even mention you clown in any of of posts :lmao
What a weirdo :lol
ducks
02-24-2021, 09:20 AM
How about parents not sending their kids with coyotes to get in USA illegally
Thousand of kids did not have one parent with them
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 09:22 AM
I didnt even mention you clown in any of of posts :lmao
What a weirdo :lollnstead of having a hypothetical conversation with absent posters you can talk to the real ones posting ITT, weird, huh?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 09:28 AM
A federal judge late Tuesday indefinitely banned President Joe Biden's administration from enforcing a 100-day moratorium on most deportations.
U.S. District Judge Drew Tipton issued a preliminary injunction sought by Texas, which argued the moratorium violated federal law and risked imposing additional costs on the state.
Biden proposed the 100-day pause on deportations during his campaign as part of a larger review of immigration enforcement and an attempt to reverse the priorities of former President Donald Trump. Biden has proposed a sweeping immigration bill that would allow the legalization of an estimated 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally. He has also instituted other guidelines on whom immigration and border agents should target for enforcement.
Tipton, a Trump appointee, initially ruled on Jan. 26 that the moratorium violated federal law on administrative procedure and that the U.S. failed to show why a deportation pause was justified. A temporary restraining order the judge issued was set to expire Tuesday.
Tipton's ruling did not require deportations to resume at their previous pace. Even without a moratorium, immigration agencies have wide latitude in enforcing removals and processing cases.
But in the days that followed his ruling, authorities deported 15 people to Jamaica and hundreds of others to Central America. The Biden administration has also continued expelling immigrants under a separate process begun by Trump officials, who invoked public-health law due to the coronavirus pandemic.
The legal fight over the deportation ban is an early sign of Republican opposition to Biden’s immigration priorities, just as Democrats and pro-immigrant legal groups fought Trump’s proposals. Almost four years before Tipton’s order, Trump signed a ban on travel from seven countries with predominantly Muslim populations that caused chaos at airports. Legal groups successfully sued to stop implementation of the ban.
It was not immediately clear if the Biden administration will appeal Tipton's latest ruling. The Justice Department did not seek a stay of Tipton's earlier temporary restraining orderJudge made sure the kids stay in cages, thanks for pointing this out, ducks
hater
02-24-2021, 09:38 AM
lnstead of having a hypothetical conversation with absent posters you can talk to the real ones posting ITT, weird, huh?
Its not a conversation when you start off with calling a poster a clown.
Ok lets have one. Why did media call trump a racist when he did it and now not a peep when Biden does it?
elbamba1
02-24-2021, 10:14 AM
Cages/jails for children is wrong, family separation is wrong, no matter who does it. It needs to stop.
I agree though my understanding is the facility reopening in Carrizo Springs is for unaccompanied minors vs. minors being separated from their families.
boutons_deux
02-24-2021, 10:23 AM
I didn't see anything there about returning to Flores compliance. They gonna start letting these kids go after a short time?
yep, that would be the good-faith, humanitarian step for the Biden administration.
However, with the racist sadists in CBP/ICE/DHS, I expect they would drag their feet and variously fuck up Flores compliance.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 10:27 AM
Its not a conversation when you start off with calling a poster a clown.
Ok lets have one. Why did media call trump a racist when he did it and now not a peep when Biden does it?
Trump is a racist, it was always accurate to call him that. His policies pandered to it, especially his immigration policies. They were an outgrowth of his racist outreach to aggrieved white voters. So was kids in cages.
With Joe Biden the intention is different but the result is so far the same. It's more like not so benign technocratic neglect -- with a definite racist flavor to it. We wouldn't do this to European kids.
boutons_deux
02-24-2021, 10:45 AM
Not very racist this, one week after inauguration
Families Separated At Border Hope Biden Reunites Them, Bringing Deported Parents Back
President Biden has promised to appoint a task force to help reunite these separated families, which he's expected to formally announce next week.
Immigrant advocates are still searching for hundreds of parents. There are more than 600 separated parents they haven't been able to reach — and hundreds more who have been located but still are not reunited with their kids.
"Not only were they separated, they were deported back to the country they fled. They haven't seen their children in three years now, and there's no clear pathway to get them back,"
Immigration lawyers will be watching closely to see exactly what the mandate of Biden's task force will be.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/28/961301353/families-separated-at-border-hope-biden-reunites-them-bringing-deported-parents-
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 11:31 AM
I voted for Biden because Fox News told me there would be open borders.
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 11:51 AM
Even AOC can't think of a solution that doesn't involve some form of detainment.
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So as I see it, you have two options. You can just let this happen without any action (open borders), or you can pick them up and truck them back across the border (which seems like throwing balls uphill). Any other options I'm not considering? I'm open to it.
And for the record, I never criticized Trump for detaining undocumented minors. This isn't family separation, these kids came across the border without their families to begin with. Our responsibility, if we choose to do anything, is to ensure they are detained in a humane way and all efforts are made to reunite them with families. If Biden can't deliver on that simple requirement, he should be shellacked.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 11:58 AM
ugh
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:00 PM
Even AOC can't think of a solution that doesn't involve some form of detainment.
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So as I see it, you have two options. You can just let this happen without any action (open borders), or you can pick them up and truck them back across the border (which seems like throwing balls uphill). Any other options I'm not considering? I'm open to it..are you kiddding me?
you release them to domestic sponsors.
Thread
02-24-2021, 12:01 PM
Judge made sure the kids stay in cages, thanks for pointing this out, ducks
That's where Hussein put 'em, Winester.
What, you don't say "hi" to me?
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 12:02 PM
are you kiddding me?
you release them to domestic sponsors.
Are those sponsors separate from the already overloaded (and under-monitored) foster system?
spurraider21
02-24-2021, 12:03 PM
do all of these children have qualified domestic sponsors ready to take them in right now?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:05 PM
That's where Hussein put 'em, Winester.
What, you don't say "hi" to me?Hi there, Threadster.
Glad you came through the year safe to all outward appearances, 2020 was a close scrape in a lot of ways.
I've no quarrel with what you said about the erstwhile deporter-in-chief.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:08 PM
continuity, not change, right?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:11 PM
Are those sponsors separate from the already overloaded (and under-monitored) foster system?my understanding is that there is a network of people who want to help who aren't allowed to.
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 12:11 PM
The foster care system right now is rife with physical, sexual and emotional abuse because there are more children in need of care than qualified, decent providers.
Exposing immigrant children to that risk instead of holding them in fewer locations which can be monitored and regulated for humane treatment is not a compelling alternative, imo.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:13 PM
back when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.
RandomGuy
02-24-2021, 12:13 PM
Hannity: Biden facilities for immigrant minors identical to Trump administration's 'cages'
Biden policies are 'green light for migrants,' Fox News host warns
I hope it is.
Let's let tons and tons of immigrants in. That makes me happy.
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 12:13 PM
my understanding is that there is a network of people who want to help who aren't allowed to.
Then they should be allowed to if they are qualified and pass background checks, but we still have to hold them somewhere in the interim.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:14 PM
The foster care system right now is rife with physical, sexual and emotional abuse because there are more children in need of care than qualified, decent providers.
Exposing immigrant children to that risk instead of holding them in fewer locations which can be monitored and regulated for humane treatment is not a compelling alternative, imo.no one said its risk free. keeping kids locked up in prison to spare them possible abuse in the foster system seems extreme.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:15 PM
Then they should be allowed to if they are qualified and pass background checks, but we still have to hold them somewhere in the interim.Sure.
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 12:15 PM
back, when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.
I'm good with that too.
I guess my reaction is mainly to the performative "Detention Facilities Bad and Just Like Trump" outrage, which implies that those facilities cannot be an essential part of controlled and humane release.
spurraider21
02-24-2021, 12:18 PM
back when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.
but do we know that there is a sponsor out there ready to go for each of these kids in these facilities right now?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:20 PM
do all of these children have qualified domestic sponsors ready to take them in right now?my understanding is that CBP/ICE has made them that are, very unwelcome.
the answer is no, have no idea. I'm not an immigration activist.
Adam Lambert
02-24-2021, 12:23 PM
I might also advise those sponsors that there are many, many domestic children in need of care and we don't have anywhere to hold them.
hater
02-24-2021, 12:32 PM
Trump is a racist, it was always accurate to call him that. His policies pandered to it, especially his immigration policies. They were an outgrowth of his racist outreach to aggrieved white voters. So was kids in cages.
With Joe Biden the intention is different but the result is so far the same. It's more like not so benign technocratic neglect -- with a definite racist flavor to it. We wouldn't do this to European kids.
One could say Biden is a racist too based on his record. He said integrating black kids in school would turn them into jungles :lol
Thanks for admitting both administrations are racist in this subject.
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 12:35 PM
Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.
Bogie
02-24-2021, 12:38 PM
Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.
so if there isn’t anyone to release them to, what do you do?
daboom1
02-24-2021, 01:02 PM
do all of these children have qualified domestic sponsors ready to take them in right now?
Yes, they are fresh and ready to be trafficked.
spurraider21
02-24-2021, 01:04 PM
Yes, they are fresh and ready to be trafficked.
ok, derp
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 01:08 PM
so if there isn’t anyone to release them to, what do you do?that's a toughie, right?
Winehole23
02-24-2021, 01:10 PM
One could say Biden is a racist too based on his record. He said integrating black kids in school would turn them into jungles :lol
Thanks for admitting both administrations are racist in this subject.:blah
ChumpDumper
02-24-2021, 01:12 PM
1364343074093109250:lol she really triggers you after she clowned Texas RepubliQans like yourself.
hater
02-24-2021, 01:33 PM
:lmao :lol
https://twitter.com/Yeti1181/status/1364342325581914114?s=20
Bogie
02-24-2021, 02:33 PM
that's a toughie, right?
yeah, there’s not anything approaching a good answer for that problem. The easiest answer would have been to quit destabilizing central and South America for the last few decades, but that ship sailed long ago. it’s a terrible situation with no decent answer
ElNono
02-24-2021, 03:21 PM
When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"
When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
It's wrong, period. Trump being a nazi has much less to do with separating families or jails and much more to do with standing up for neo-nationalists and white supremacists.
ElNono
02-24-2021, 03:23 PM
So criminals can use children to use a baseball bat beat your mom to death and should never be separated ?
Criminals don't need children to do whatever they want to do. If anything, children slows them down. Ask your parents.
:lmao :lol
https://twitter.com/Yeti1181/status/1364342325581914114?s=20
Keep trying. One of these days you'll have a funny.
koriwhat
02-24-2021, 03:50 PM
When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"
When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
What kind of response did you expect from the party of hypocrites?
koriwhat
02-24-2021, 03:52 PM
Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.
You're a f'n idiot bro.
FrostKing
02-24-2021, 03:55 PM
When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"
When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
Those screeching nazi are hopeless. The concern is those Americans in the middle that were complicit in the anti-white rhetoric
koriwhat
02-24-2021, 03:55 PM
It's wrong, period. Trump being a nazi has much less to do with separating families or jails and much more to do with standing up for neo-nationalists and white supremacists.
Show us where he's stood up for and advocated for neo-nationalists(you mean nazis right lol) and white supremacists... Want to view Biden's eulogy at the KKK's very own Robert Byrd's funeral again? Too soon? lmao
ElNono
02-24-2021, 05:16 PM
Show us where he's stood up for and advocated for neo-nationalists(you mean nazis right lol) and white supremacists... Want to view Biden's eulogy at the KKK's very own Robert Byrd's funeral again? Too soon? lmao
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
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“I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace,” Trump said. “What do you want to call them? Give me a name.”
“Proud Boys,” Democrat Joe Biden chimed in, referencing a far-right extremist group that has shown up at protests in the Pacific Northwest. The male-only group of neo-fascists describes themselves as “western chauvinists,” and they have been known to incite street violence.
“Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” Trump said. “But I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem.”
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-chris-wallace-0b32339da25fbc9e8b7c7c7066a1db0f
I'm not defending Biden and feel free to post whatever you want. Nothing Biden says or does justifies the above, however, that's whataboutism at it's finest.
RandomGuy
02-24-2021, 05:21 PM
Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.
Agreed. Once we pick them up, we have an obligation to house them somewhere.
If the conditions are humane, comfortable, and basic needs like healthcare and grooming are met, I have a lot less worry than some of what the monsters at ICE subjected detainees to.
Temporary housing is fine, but forced detention... not so much.
ducks
02-24-2021, 05:44 PM
Judge made sure the kids stay in cages, thanks for pointing this out, ducks
Do you want them to be killed like moms do daily in the world ?
Winehole23
02-25-2021, 10:55 AM
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Winehole23
02-25-2021, 10:56 AM
Do you want them to be killed like moms do daily in the world ?No sir.
I do not want that.
koriwhat
02-27-2021, 07:45 AM
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
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“I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace,” Trump said. “What do you want to call them? Give me a name.”
“Proud Boys,” Democrat Joe Biden chimed in, referencing a far-right extremist group that has shown up at protests in the Pacific Northwest. The male-only group of neo-fascists describes themselves as “western chauvinists,” and they have been known to incite street violence.
“Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” Trump said. “But I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem.”
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-chris-wallace-0b32339da25fbc9e8b7c7c7066a1db0f
I'm not defending Biden and feel free to post whatever you want. Nothing Biden says or does justifies the above, however, that's whataboutism at it's finest.
Lmao Why don't you provide the full transcript of that first bit? Let me guess because Trump denouncing neo-nazis and white supremacists doesn't fit your narrative? Hahahaha Go figure...
Now the second bit is even better because, just like most lefties, you believe the Proud Boys are a white supremacist/neo-nazi organization yet they accept all races, all religions, and all guys gay or straight.
You're brainwashed bro and you try to play like you're not. Smh Nono, I thought you were smarter than this but I was wrong.
ElNono
03-01-2021, 11:17 AM
Lmao Why don't you provide the full transcript of that first bit? Let me guess because Trump denouncing neo-nazis and white supremacists doesn't fit your narrative? Hahahaha Go figure...
lmao I linked to the full transcript, which clearly you did not read. Hahaha Go figure...
Now the second bit is even better because, just like most lefties, you believe the Proud Boys are a white supremacist/neo-nazi organization yet they accept all races, all religions, and all guys gay or straight.
You're brainwashed bro and you try to play like you're not. Smh Nono, I thought you were smarter than this but I was wrong.
:lol you called them nazis, I didn't. And imagine writing the above and calling anybody else brainwashed.
Looks like we disagree, that's fine with me.
koriwhat
03-01-2021, 06:30 PM
:lol you called them nazis, I didn't. And imagine writing the above and calling anybody else brainwashed.
Looks like we disagree, that's fine with me.
I didn't call them nazis. I simply stated what the progressive idiots of twitter and the like want to believe them to be. It's not my belief of the PB's whatsoever; it's the media's manipulation and the idiots who eat the narrative up without researching a damn thing.
ElNono
03-02-2021, 12:32 AM
I didn't call them nazis. I simply stated what the progressive idiots of twitter and the like want to believe them to be. It's not my belief of the PB's whatsoever; it's the media's manipulation and the idiots who eat the narrative up without researching a damn thing.
Show us where he's stood up for and advocated for neo-nationalists(you mean nazis right lol) and white supremacists... Want to view Biden's eulogy at the KKK's very own Robert Byrd's funeral again? Too soon? lmao
I called them neo-nationalists, which is what they are. A fringe extremist violent right-wing group.
I condemned the violence and riots during otherwise peaceful BLM protests, it would be disingenuous to pretend these guys are anything but what they are.
Anyways, I'm glad we no longer have a President that dogwhistles to these kind of groups and the FBI is doing their job arresting and charging these seditious traitors.
FrostKing
03-02-2021, 12:38 AM
I called them neo-nationalists, which is what they are. A fringe extremist violent right-wing group.
I condemned the violence and riots during otherwise peaceful BLM protests, it would be disingenuous to pretend these guys are anything but what they are.
Anyways, I'm glad we no longer have a President that dogwhistles to these kind of groups and the FBI is doing their job arresting and charging these seditious traitors.
Biden has not yet been tested on the matter. We will see if he stands up to BLM, cop killing is inevitable
The reporter stated "they started it, they came to protest"
If I remember correctly the right had a permit and the left crashed it. They were at fault.
ElNono
03-02-2021, 01:21 AM
Biden has not yet been tested on the matter. We will see if he stands up to BLM, cop killing is inevitable
The reporter stated "they started it, they came to protest"
If I remember correctly the right had a permit and the left crashed it. They were at fault.
The whole march was declared an unlawful assembly two hours before the incident, and no, the location of the incident was half a mile away from the site of the protest, where counter-protesters were located.
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 02:02 AM
I called them neo-nationalists, which is what they are. A fringe extremist violent right-wing group.
I condemned the violence and riots during otherwise peaceful BLM protests, it would be disingenuous to pretend these guys are anything but what they are.
Anyways, I'm glad we no longer have a President that dogwhistles to these kind of groups and the FBI is doing their job arresting and charging these seditious traitors.
Thank god no more president who "dog whistles" but hooray to the vice president for bailing out pedos, murderers, rioters, thieves, et al. YEAH!
ElNono
03-04-2021, 05:20 AM
Thank god no more president who "dog whistles" but hooray to the vice president for bailing out pedos, murderers, rioters, thieves, et al. YEAH!
Are you talking about Pence?
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 07:16 PM
Are you talking about Pence?
Nah I'm talking about that dumb ho in office right now, as VP, next to PedoJoe.
Winehole23
12-17-2021, 03:13 AM
Brandon is apparently going to the wall to defend Trump's family separation policy.
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Ef-man
12-17-2021, 09:04 AM
But will Brandon bomb the children entering our “boarders?”
Asking for a ducks.
RandomGuy
12-17-2021, 09:49 AM
Brandon is apparently going to the wall to defend Trump's family separation policy.
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Saw that. Conservatives smelled an issue, and libs caved. The issue being the cost of recompense for the victims of the Trump administrations torture of children as a deterrence. "but it will encourage others to come"
So fucking what, IMO. the moral obligation remains and is absolutely not outweighed by the potential moral hazard here.
Seems to me we can afford it, and should afford it.
Winehole23
12-17-2021, 10:03 AM
But will Brandon bomb the children entering our “boarders?”
Asking for a ducks.It wouldn't be enough. Brandon is already rounding up and detaining far more border crossers than his predecessor and gets no credit for it.
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