View Full Version : H.R.1: for the People Act of 2021
Winehole23
03-03-2021, 11:32 PM
i won't pretend to understand the campaign finance part, a lot of other parts too.
Very lengthy!
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text
Winehole23
03-03-2021, 11:42 PM
passes on a strict party line vote in the US House
Are the two deadbeat democrats voting against this the same that voted against the COVID relief Bill?
DarrinS
03-03-2021, 11:51 PM
Lol "for the people" act
Bogie
03-04-2021, 12:00 AM
Lol "for the people" act
Karrin, why don’t you want people to participate in democracy?
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 12:29 AM
Lol "for the people" act
lol "patriot" act
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 02:11 AM
lol "patriot" act
lol "no rational citizen advocated for that pos bill" oh and you get no faux W either ya loser.
ElNono
03-04-2021, 02:13 AM
I bet Manchin will object
daboom1
03-04-2021, 02:46 AM
HR 1 makes the taxpayer (me and you) fund their re-election campaigns.
It also eliminates state voter ID laws, normalizes ballot harvesting, and enables the same voting irregularities that won the election for Biden in 2020.
It has everything the Democrats need to retain power, and continue their romance with China.
Trainwreck2100
03-04-2021, 03:32 AM
HR 1 makes the taxpayer (me and you) fund their re-election campaigns.
It also eliminates state voter ID laws, normalizes ballot harvesting, and enables the same voting irregularities that won the election for Biden in 2020.
It has everything the Democrats need to retain power, and continue their romance with China.
ah yes, that would be the ol minorities voting irregularity.
ElNono
03-04-2021, 05:16 AM
ah yes, that would be the ol minorities voting irregularity.
Don't forget the ol make it easy and convenient to vote irregularity... haven't seen the legislation yet, but hopefully they either declare election day a holiday or move election day to Sunday, tbh
boutons_deux
03-04-2021, 08:54 AM
Dems left out automatic voter registration at age 18.
Trill Clinton
03-04-2021, 09:19 AM
I bet Manchin will object
You already know
Winehole23
03-04-2021, 09:22 AM
Dems left out automatic voter registration at age 18.
PART 2—AUTOMATIC VOTER REGISTRATION (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1011. Short title; findings and purpose. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1012. Automatic registration of eligible individuals. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1013. Contributing agency assistance in registration. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1014. One-time contributing agency assistance in registration of eligible voters in existing records. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1015. Voter protection and security in automatic registration. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1016. Registration portability and correction. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1017. Payments and grants. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1018. Treatment of exempt States. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1019. Miscellaneous provisions. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1020. Definitions. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)
Sec. 1021. Effective date. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E)https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 09:48 AM
lol "no rational citizen advocated for that pos bill" oh and you get no faux W either ya loser.
lol "tax cuts and jobs act"
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 09:48 AM
Freedom Fries
Liberty Toast
boutons_deux
03-04-2021, 10:00 AM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H0C72CA940E684A0986583236950CC71E
good find, thanks
HR1 is "too good to be true", iow, will gutted by Repugs to get their vote, with feckless roll-over by Dems.
More likely, it won't be passed by the Senate, and probably several House Dems will vote against, Dem NON-party-discipline being always good for laughs.
Even the pandemic relief bill did not receive votes by all House Dems.
Adam Lambert
03-04-2021, 11:36 AM
lol "no rational citizen advocated for that pos bill" oh and you get no faux W either ya loser.
The Patriot Act was overwhelmingly popular and I have a very hard time believing you weren't one of its cheerleaders.
Winehole23
03-04-2021, 11:48 AM
I guess the talking points haven't been handed out yet.
I know Scalise is getting roasted for something he said, someone else said if this bill passes it will be impossible to elect a Republican anywhere.
Winehole23
03-04-2021, 11:50 AM
The evidence-free assumption that increased voting helps Democrats seems to be general, why is that?
Adam Lambert
03-04-2021, 11:56 AM
I guess the talking points haven't been handed out yet.
I know Scalise is getting roasted for something he said, someone else said if this bill passes it will be impossible to elect a Republican anywhere.
That will be the entire Republican argument and it will likely be enough.
Winehole23
03-04-2021, 12:02 PM
Sounds awesome, please tell me more, Steve.
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koriwhat
03-04-2021, 07:14 PM
lol "tax cuts and jobs act"
lol You literally have no real rebuttal. It's hilarious how you fools flop around because of "feelings".
The Patriot Act was overwhelmingly popular and I have a very hard time believing you weren't one of its cheerleaders.
I was 19 at the time you stupid ass. You really think I was all about pushing that bill into existence? :lmao
You and the other blowhards are nothing but faux intellectuals who have overvalued yourselves and your ego's don't match reality.
Again, I voted for Obama twice but yeah I was a cheerleader for the patriot act. You're so damn stupid bro.
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 07:15 PM
lol You literally have no real rebuttal. It's hilarious how you fools flop around because of "feelings".
you found it noteworthy that a bill was given a fluff name :lmao
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 07:23 PM
you found it noteworthy that a bill was given a fluff name :lmao
Nah, I find it noteworthy that the Covid Relief Bill is nothing more than a money laundering scheme and nothing more. We the people get screwed over and over again while you celebrate because you have no integrity. You're nothing but a pawn and you willingly keep parading your oppressors around as if they're your saviors.
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 07:27 PM
Nah, I find it noteworthy that the Covid Relief Bill is nothing more than a money laundering scheme and nothing more. We the people get screwed over and over again while you celebrate because you have no integrity. You're nothing but a pawn and you willingly keep parading your oppressors around as if they're your saviors.
you dont know what money laundering means
Leetonidas
03-04-2021, 07:30 PM
you dont know what money laundering means
:lol
ChumpDumper
03-04-2021, 07:32 PM
you dont know what money laundering means
:lol
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 07:33 PM
you dont know what money laundering means
The cliche "you don't know what ____ means"... You're nothing but a faux intellectual reject riding the coat tails of your paralegal shit lawyer.
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 07:36 PM
The cliche "you don't know what ____ means"... You're nothing but a faux intellectual reject riding the coat tails of your paralegal shit lawyer.
you not knowing what things mean certainly has become a cliche around here
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 08:04 PM
you not knowing what things mean certainly has become a cliche around here
At the end of the day you're just another faux intellectual looking acceptance from your pen pals online. It's quite the head scratcher to think a simple concept like "money laundering" is so hard to comprehend. Stick to what you know, blowing the partners at the law firm you work for.
spurraider21
03-04-2021, 08:11 PM
It's quite the head scratcher to think a simple concept like "money laundering" is so hard to comprehend.
couldn't agree more, but here we are
koriwhat
03-04-2021, 08:21 PM
couldn't agree more, but here we are
You're nothing more than a Chump wannabe if we're being honest here. You like to insult so you can get into these merrygoround bs arguments. Go play in the sandbox by yourself you freaking child.
You're so cool bro... Actually you're a wet noodle with nothing but internet bravado.
Liberty Toast
That's some Orwellian shit
Winehole23
03-09-2021, 10:35 PM
many provisions popular even with Republicans, if this poll is any good.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/1615301801692-CSH4P9EIKM0TM65SU3E3/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kG5C-6spEwUAfQP6IZSWaSJ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMK kDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5 CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UYpAbydKD3gInw-DUxDqQfI_7e7XRoaHhTe73DlBuXkjP7cJNZlDXbgJNE9ef52e8 w/image1.png
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2021/3/9/voters-support-american-rescue-plan-25pjp
crosstabs:https://www.filesforprogress.org/datasets/2021/3/dfp_iia_arp_tabs.pdf
Winehole23
03-09-2021, 10:38 PM
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Winehole23
03-09-2021, 11:09 PM
(D4P is a B- pollster in the 538 ratings)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
boutons_deux
03-09-2021, 11:17 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/158430715_4903006349792380_3231746296964828225_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=54WW0r-M2fwAX8n7_y2&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=7dd80d63caeda62fbc0c8bc9f6defefc&oe=606D76EF
Winehole23
03-10-2021, 10:38 AM
Good roundup of opinion, positive and negative, about H.R.1.
Lambert Strether thinks it legitmizes PropOrNot, cripples third parties, and points out problems with ballot marking devices.
Black Agenda Report (https://www.blackagendareport.com/house-democrats-hr-1-faking-funk-voting-rights-spreading-fear-and-gunning-greens-2020)describes the 2019 version as “a sleazy ghetto ice cream truckload of empty promises.”
Here is a guide to the Bill from the Brennan Center (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/policy-solutions/annotated-guide-people-act-2021); is a conservative assault on the bill from the National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/h-r-1-is-a-partisan-assault-on-american-democracy/); and a list of bullet points from Daily Kos (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/3/3/2019203/-House-Democrats-just-passed-the-most-important-democracy-reforms-since-the-1965-Voting-Rights-Act):
Establish automatic voter registration at an array of state agencies;
Establish same-day voter registration;
Allow online voter registration;
Allow 16- and 17-year-olds to pre-register so they’ll be on the rolls when they turn 18;
Allow state colleges and universities to serve as registration agencies;
Ban states from purging eligible voters’ registration simply for infrequent voting;
Establish two weeks of in-person early voting, including availability on Sundays and outside of normal business hours;
Standardize hours within states for opening and closing polling places on Election Day, with exceptions to let cities set longer hours in municipal races;
Require paper ballots filled by hand or machines that use them as official records and let voters verify their choices;
Grant funds to states to upgrade their election security infrastructure;
Provide prepaid postage on mail ballots;
Allow voters to turn in their mail ballot in person if they choose;
Allow voters to track their absentee mail ballots;
Require states to establish nonpartisan redistricting commissions for congressional redistricting (possibly not until the 2030s round of redistricting);
Establish nonpartisan redistricting criteria such as a partisan fairness provision that courts can enforce starting immediately no matter what institution is drawing the maps;
End prison gerrymandering by counting prisoners at their last address (rather than where they’re incarcerated) for the purposes of redistricting;
End felony disenfranchisement for those on parole, probation, or post-sentence, and require such citizens to be supplied with registration forms and informed their voting rights have been restored;
Provide public financing for House campaigns in the form of matching small donations at a six-for-one rate;
Expand campaign finance disclosure requirements to mitigate Citizens United;
Ban corporations from spending for campaign purposes unless the corporation has established a process for determining the political will of its shareholders; and
Make it a crime to mislead voters with the intention of preventing them from voting.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/03/h-r-1-the-for-the-people-act-legitimizes-wapos-propornot-reporting-institutionalizes-ballot-marking-devices-and-cripples-minor-parties.html
Leetonidas
03-10-2021, 10:43 AM
Lol koriwhat has no idea what money laundering means :lol as always continues to prove how little he knows about anything in general. classic deflection to ever sr21 post and just starts every reply with "Yeah well you're a (inset "faux intellectual, chump wannabe, weak male, commie," etc) because he cant actually explain how this bill is money laundering :lmao :lmao what an idiot
Ef-man
03-10-2021, 02:58 PM
Congress adopts $1.9 trillion stimulus, securing first major win for Biden.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/03/10/house-stimulus-biden-covid-relief-checks/
spurraider21
03-10-2021, 03:27 PM
Lol koriwhat has no idea what money laundering means :lol as always continues to prove how little he knows about anything in general. classic deflection to ever sr21 post and just starts every reply with "Yeah well you're a (inset "faux intellectual, chump wannabe, weak male, commie," etc) because he cant actually explain how this bill is money laundering :lmao :lmao what an idiot
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJQRLBXIAMlK2J?format=png&name=360x360
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/1615302044644-TLG4LVX2N09HZXHYVTPV/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kE4icB6DURtvK8TTWvBMU6J7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1Ud rSrrg41RgAQEbVKqte98piZFxrSidD1nX3cLivu708MW9u6oXQ ZQicHHG1WEE6fg/image3.png
One would think they'd proofread or spellcheck.
Ef-man
03-10-2021, 04:12 PM
Lol koriwhat has no idea what money laundering means :lol as always continues to prove how little he knows about anything in general. classic deflection to ever sr21 post and just starts every reply with "Yeah well you're a (inset "faux intellectual, chump wannabe, weak male, commie," etc) because he cant actually explain how this bill is money laundering :lmao :lmao what an idiot
Plus he does not care what anyone says and always ends post with “God Bless” as he is reformed.
Winehole23
03-10-2021, 04:48 PM
One would think they'd proofread or spellcheck.If you understood, completely successful communication happened.
The English language has had regularized spelling rules since the 19th century. It got along for a long time without them, and could again. So long as the misspellings are phonetic, context usually makes the meaning clear.
RandomGuy
03-10-2021, 05:51 PM
you not knowing what things mean certainly has become a cliche around here
:lol
RandomGuy
03-10-2021, 05:55 PM
Not a single fascist voted for this.
That means that every single thing this does to help people... is the result of what Democrats did, and fascists actively fought against, when they weren't busy attempting to disenfranchise voters.
Man, talk about making an easy case for re-election. Fascists will have to work hard to spin this as negative, and will be countered every step of the way by "you thought X was OK when Trump was president"
RandomGuy
03-11-2021, 01:56 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/158430715_4903006349792380_3231746296964828225_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=54WW0r-M2fwAX8n7_y2&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=7dd80d63caeda62fbc0c8bc9f6defefc&oe=606D76EF
IT is a fair question to ask.
Why is that?
Trill Clinton
03-11-2021, 02:29 PM
Thank you to the "Do nothing" Democrats for getting the country back on track. From Vaccinations to the American Rescue Plan, its clear you all are putting the American people first!
https://media4.giphy.com/media/U6kTpJ6GIEZ0jdBhNb/200.gif
Trill Clinton
03-11-2021, 02:31 PM
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RandomGuy
03-11-2021, 06:23 PM
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Not.
One.
Republican.
Vote.
DarrinS
03-11-2021, 09:44 PM
What do stimulus checks have to do with this bill?
Winehole23
03-13-2021, 04:57 PM
Manchin is explicitly open to this and Sinema hasn't ruled it out.
Under current rules established in 1975, the onus is on the majority to find 60 votes to proceed on legislation. If 41 or more senators vote against it, the bill stalls and there's nothing the majority can do. Merkley calls it "a no show, no effort, silent, invisible" blockade.
A talking filibuster would flip that onus, requiring a group of 41 senators to hold the floor and take turns talking incessantly — to air their grievances with the legislation being considered.
Eventually, Merkley explained, one of two things will happen: The majority party will lose its nerve and pull the bill, or the number of senators present will fall under 41 and enable the majority to advance the bill with a three-fifths majority.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/tremendous-sea-change-democrats-see-path-remaking-senate-filibuster-n1261000
boutons_deux
03-13-2021, 05:35 PM
Both manchin and sinema, not running in 2022, could hurt Dem candidates badly in 2022
if they block $15/hour and block other For The People bills by keeping the filibuster.
Manchin already had big backlash in WVA for not supporting $15
Winehole23
05-11-2021, 10:11 AM
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Winehole23
08-06-2021, 12:31 PM
Manchin excludes a voting rights carve out bill, Sinema insists on a 60 vote filibuster. If that holds, HR 1 is dead.
Time to game plan alternatives.
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Winehole23
08-06-2021, 12:55 PM
Time running out on HR 1
Dems are not so serious about winning the midterms or the 2024 general election, it would seem.
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Winehole23
08-06-2021, 01:00 PM
pretty much
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boutons_deux
08-06-2021, 03:37 PM
the Capitalist/Christian Nationalist FASCISM in evitable
Repugs and right wing hate media aren't even trying to hide it, eg:
Did Tucker Carlson just reveal his ‘deranged right wing vision’ for America?
https://www.rawstory.com/tucker-carlson-hungary
After Trash buddied with Duterte, Turkey, Bolsonaro, Orban, and sucked off Pootin, while alienating ALL of USA's democratic allies
Winehole23
08-06-2021, 04:19 PM
GA targeting black folks for voter purge
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boutons_deux
08-06-2021, 04:30 PM
IT is a fair question to ask.
Why is that?
what?
koriwhat
08-06-2021, 05:05 PM
GA targeting black folks for voter purge
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LMAO Posting anything that race hustler has to say and proclaiming it as actual pol discussion when that dumb cunt lies her ass off daily on tv. Fuck Joy Reid!
Winehole23
08-07-2021, 09:48 AM
Crystal Ball reads the tea leaves on redistricting.
tl;dr
Dems are fucked in the midterms at a minimum.
https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/redistricting-in-america-part-three-the-republicans-southern-prizes/
boutons_deux
08-07-2021, 09:56 AM
Crystal Ball reads the tea leaves on redistricting.
tl;dr
Dems are fucked in the midterms at a minimum.
https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/redistricting-in-america-part-three-the-republicans-southern-prizes/
Beyond the minimum, Dems and America are fucked for decades under Capitalist/Christian Nationalist FASCISM
Repug gerrymandering, voter suppression, election fraud will purge nearly every Dem Rep from Confederate/red states,
whose population is a national minority but empowered to rule as a minority by the fucked up Constitution.
America is fucked and unfuckable (peacefully)
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